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Fw: [LIH][COMMERCIAL]Slackware CDs available
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

Just in case anyone is interested. I am only forwarding this to the list. Sharukh. ----- Forwarded message from Shridhar Daithankar <shridhar_daithankar(a)persistent.co.in> ----- From: Shridhar Daithankar <shridhar_daithankar(a)persistent.co.in> Subject: [LIH][COMMERCIAL]Slackware CDs available To: linux-india-help(a)lists.sourceforge.net X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Reply-To: linux-india-help(a)lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 19:02:05 +0530 Hi all, I am glad to announce the availability of Slackware9.0 and application CD, on behalf of PLUG(Pune Linux Users Group). This is a 2 CD set and priced at Rs 75/-. Please send us DD drawn in favour of "PUNE LINUX USERS GROUP" payable at Pune. You need to add the amount of shipping to the DD as well. We will be shipping the CDs by speed-post. The address is, PUNE LINUX USERS GROUP C/o Shridhar Daithankar, "Vidyashree", Plot. No. 117, Sec. No. 27, Pradhikaran, Nigdi, Pune-411044 Please note that we are not using official PLUG address as it is registered, due to some problems. The shipping charges are (as we obtained from Post.) Upto 200 KMs: 25/- Between 200-1000KMs: 30/- Between 1000-2000KMs: 50/- Please verify and calculate yourself, based on your location. We would like you to send us a signed form of PLUG membership, available from http://plug.org.in/membership-form.pdf This is to protect you from trademark issues as LUGs and individuals are allowed to use trademarks of linux companies like RedHat, by license agreements these companies operate under. We would be shipping CDs once or twice a week. So one should expect the delivery of the CDs within a week and half. If you are on a LUG mailing list, please forward this, so that the others will benefit as well. For any queries, please contact me offlist. Bye Shridhar -- I've already got a female to worry about. Her name is the Enterprise. -- Kirk, "The Corbomite Maneuver", stardate 1514.0 ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. _______________________________________________ linux-india-help mailing list linux-india-help(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-india-help ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri Homeopath and Linux Enthusiast. Mumbai, India. http://www.pavri.net/

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Meeting of 12th July.
by amish munshi 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

Greetings, Sorry for being out of touch with the group for so long, I am back and will be looking after the meetings if everyone agrees. I would like to know what is going to happen in the meeting on 13th July and would prefer if I could present a seminar on qt programming. Bye. ------------------------------------------------- Sify Mail - now with Anti-virus protection powered by Trend Micro, USA. Know more at http://mail.sify.com Sify Power mail- a Premium Service from Sify Mail! know more at http://mail.sify.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] kernel panic
by sameer shinde 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

>> > > In one sys. I installed linux but b'coz of some reasons I changed > the >HDD with other sys. Now when I tried to boot from that m/c Iget > the >message saying that kernel panic > >What do you mean when you say you changed the HDD to other system? I installed linux in one sys... but my keyboard & mouse started geting hanged as soon as my X server starts... so I decided to change the sys & I took out the HDD from one sys & put into another sys but now I started getting the message saying the kernel panic... >you put the HDD on which GNU/Linux was installed into a different system? >In that case, the most likely problem is that you are using a different IDE >port in this new system. Make sure you put it in the same port, ie primary >or secondary ... then it should boot correctly. > > > So how to overcome of the problem. I tried to boot from CD & to do > >some R&D but of no use... > >What R&D did you do? Did you boot into rescue mode on the CD and try >looking at your HDD partitions? I tried to boot from the rescue mode & to configure X but I was not able to do so. So I was trying to change the runlevel but I was not able to do so Then I desided to change the sys & then the above problem occurs... Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) P.S. I wasn't knowing why the keyboard & mouse was hanging. in X _________________________________________________________________ Smile a little. Enjoy the summer with Joggers' Park! http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/joggerspark/index.asp

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Error Creating DB2 Instance on Redhat Linux 9
by Pankaj Sarda 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

Dear Linuxers, We have Red Hat 9 Personnel Edition. We install Custom-Everything onto the Desktops requiring DB2. Previously we installed DB2 Version 7.1 on Red Hat Linux 7.2. For us Installing Db2 same version onto Red Hat 9 is first time. It installs all the components. But the last before successful completion, it should creates a DB2 Instance. It is creating a problem there. I'm attaching db2setup.log file for your reference. Hoping of early reply, Thanks for help. Pankaj Sarda EDP - Breach Candy, Cell No: 98208 - 15827.

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tcpdump and iptables
by Subba Rao 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

I am using iptables on my system. It is very basic setup that denies all outside connections. When an outside connection is attempted, the packet is dropped and logged into the syslog. When I run tcpdump on the same interface, I do see a lot of ARP requests and bootps/bootpc (UDP) requests. Why are these attempts not logged into syslog? Is it because ARP requests are a lower level protocol? Another question is, when a legitimate packet is allowed and climbing the TCP/IP stack, who (iptables or tcpdump) gets to see the packet first? -- Subba Rao subba9(a)cablespeed.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old American Wild West saying: God created men but Colt made them equal. Today: Linus created Linux and Linux made IT companies equal.

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RE: The Zantex Computers 'resignation' letter...
by GoldenBreed 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

Try looking for Zantex Computers... Unfortunately, every reference brought up by Google was THAT resignation letter... It's funny, but fake. Another urban legend... Sean Australia

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Help me in uninstalling RPMS in red hat 8.0
by qa zx 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

Hi Friends, Being working with linux for some days. i upgraded my system (p!!! 500mhz , 810 motherboard , 256 mb ram ) with red hat 8.0, now i was doing some r&d, installing squid, appache etc i tryed uninstaling squid by tying #rpm -e squid*.* but it said squid not installed. Also when i run xmms, after hitting the play button it tells me to add files but the files dont get added in the play list i also cannot downgrade this xmms version. please help, And thanks for ur responces. Regards Ankur BE BEST, IN WHATEVER U DO !!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] changing init level
by sameer shinde 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

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21.6.03: Squatter Cities
by PUKAR ＠ The Paperie 22 Jun '03

22 Jun '03

Dear Friends: PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research) and The Bombay Paperie invite you to "Squatter Cities", a public lecture and discussion with journalist ROBERT NEUWIRTH, on examing the various perceptions, political conditions, and people's experiences slum and squatter settlements in different cities throughout the world. ROBERT NEUWIRTH is a freelance journalist and writer from New York. He is currently working on a book on the everyday life of slum and squatter settlements in different parts of the world. He has lived in slums in Nairobi, Rio de Janeiro, Istanbul, and he presently lives in Sanjay Gandhi Nagar in Goregaon East, in Mumbai. He has been a staff reporter on daily newspapers and weekly news magazines, and his work has published in the Village Voice, New York Times, New York Daily News, Wired Magazine, and The Nation. He is a contributing editor to City Limits (http://www.citylimits.org/). He has also taught inmates at Raiker's Island Jail as a Professor at City University of New York. His forthcoming book, for which he received a grant from the Macarthur Foundation, will be published in 2004 by Routledge. The discussion will be moderated by DEVIKA MAHADEVAN, who works with SPARC (Society for the Promotion of Area Resource Centres) on documentation activities. She studied at Brandeis University and the London School of Economics (LSE) and is from Mumbai. Date: SATURDAY 21 JUNE 2002 6.00 p.m. to 8.00 p.m. At: The BOMBAY PAPERIE Mezzanine Floor, Soonawalla Building 59, Bombay Samachar Marg Opposite the Stock Exchange Fort, Bombay 400001 _____ PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research) P.O. Box 5627, Dadar, Mumbai 400014, INDIA E-Mail <mailto:secretariat@pukar.org.in> Phone +91 (022) 2207 7779, +91 98200 45529, +91 98204 04010 Web Site http://www.pukar.org.in

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Project in Linux. URGENT! URGENT!!
by Raghu Pilaka 22 Jun '03

22 Jun '03

Hi, We are offering a short project in which you will develop web-based, online tests for the American Uniform CPA exam. Our budgets are limited ($7500). Project deliverables should be before July 25, 2003. Time is critical to the project. We want this in Linux. For more details about the computer based tests visit www.cpa-exam.org. We would like to produce an exact replica of CPA exam tutorial described on that website. If you are interested please contact us for SPECIFICATIONS DOCUMENT in Mumbai, India on Ph 22-24164823 and 91. E-Mail is also OK. URGENT! Raghu Pilaka Director & CEO

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join
by amey samant 22 Jun '03

22 Jun '03

hi there may i join the group ? i guess its freee ;) rgrds amey __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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New Arrival: Red Hat Linux 9 Bible
by Greenleaf Books 21 Jun '03

21 Jun '03

Dear Sir / Madam Red Hat Linux 9 Bible by Christopher Negus (Author) List Price: $49.99 Indian Reprint Price: Rs.499/- Edition: Paperback Publisher: John Wiley & Sons; Book and CD-ROM edition (May 2003) ISBN: 0764539388 Amazon Rating: 4 URL: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764539388/qid=1056113773/sr=… Book Description "The definitive work on Red Hat Linux. Chain it to your desk. You'll browse others, but you'll wear this one out." -Nicholas Petreley, Founding Editor of LinuxWorld If Red Hat Linux 9 can do it, you can do it too... Activate the power of Red Hat Linux 9, the most popular distribution of this practical, economical operating system, with the in-depth information in this comprehensive reference manual. If you're exploring Linux for the first time, the hands-on instructions for installing, configuring, and customizing the system will get you going with confidence. If you're a Red Hat veteran, Linux expert Christopher Negus gives you everything you need to administer the latest desktop, server, and networking enhancements, plus much more. Inside, you'll find complete coverage of Red Hat Linux 9 Explore GNOME and KDE desktop menus, panels, file managers, workspaces, and themes Configure a firewall to share your Internet connection and protect your LAN Run applications for Internet browsing, publishing, music, video, and gaming Construct your own public Internet server, complete with mail, DNS, FTP, and Web services Administer users, manage backups, and automate system tasks Create dial-up connections, wireless LANs, and virtual private networks (CIPE) Set up Windows (Samba), Mac (netatalk), or NetWare (mars-nwe) file and print sharing from Linux Use the Red Hat Network up2date facility to easily get software updates Special 3 CD-ROM version of Red Hat Linux 9, with 260 additional packages not included in the standard 2 CD Publisher's Edition Red Hat Linux 9 core includes: Linux kernel, GNU C compiler, GNOME desktop, Apache Web server, Samba Windows file/print sharing, CUPS print service, Sendmail mail server, and BIND DNS server Additional packages include: KDE desktop samba-swat vsftpd spamassassin sendmail-cf Legacy UNIX network services Tripwire sndconfig Book your orders now. Best Regards Manoj Shah Greenleaf Software Computer & General Management Book-Shop Tel.: (022) 28770081 / 28786269 URL: www.grenleaf.com Download the latest list from out site: www.grenleaf.com/booklist.zip

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NNTPCache - Access List
by Subba Rao 21 Jun '03

21 Jun '03

Hi, I am new to NNTPCache server. The compilation and installation went fine but I am having little trouble understanding the configuration. The following is some of the configuration from nntpcache.config file: ====================================================== # the default policy is no access. # the following line reverses this # # host patern group permissions filters userfiles # * * read,post # whatever is not denied is permitted; we are now a woodstock access file. # cooling! # but hendrix is dead, and the world has moved into a new reign # of conservatism. not so cool. * * deny # we are now a french legal system access file. users are guilty until # proven innocent (mmmmmmmmmmmmmm. guilty users). Okay, okay it's # the French legal system before la pr?somption d'innocence. # # credentials for internal nocem daemon <nocem@nntpcache> * read,quick # developers get full access to everything, regardless # of what subsequent rules say # polysynaptic.iq.org * read,post,quick # allow anyone from localhost to conncet to the web statistics port localhost <http> read,quick # full access for our local network localhost * read,post,filter spam.filter suburbia.net * read,post ====================================================== The first line says the default policy is "no access" and yet it opens it up to pretty much everything. The configuration says that the developers have full access no matter what the configuration file says. Is this the developers sick joke while documenting the configuration file or is it real? According to the configuration.access file, there are a bunch of sites and servers that can access the server. Although my iptables would limit that access, is there lot careless access to the new servers these days? -- Subba Rao subba9(a)cablespeed.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old American Wild West saying: God created men but Colt made them equal. Today: Linus created Linux and Linux made IT companies equal.

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changing init level
by sameer shinde 21 Jun '03

21 Jun '03

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kernel panic
by sameer shinde 21 Jun '03

21 Jun '03

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The full story of what one person who signed SCO's NDA
by Trevor Warren 20 Jun '03

20 Jun '03

The full story of what one person who signed SCO's NDA encountered on his trip to Lindon, Utah. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6956 Trevor -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor(a)clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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compact flash card - emb_linux
by ramesh thatha 20 Jun '03

20 Jun '03

i need compact flash card with IDE interface for embedded linux application......... does anyone knows where can i get this in india..... thanks in advance ===== Ramesh, student, IIT, Bombay __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Red Hat Linux 9 booting problem
by kaze＠sdf.lonestar.org 20 Jun '03

20 Jun '03

Dear Pankaj, My system developed exactly the same problem when I installed Redhat 9.0. The LoadModule fails for various modules. When I further analyzed the problem, I realized that the files containing these modules were getting erased. Then, it hit me: The filesystem was corrupted. This was further evident when I went into the directories containing the X Windows Files- doing a grep there elicited I/O errors. I tried replacing them, but it didn't work. And no, an fsck didn't help either. All this inspite of the fact that I was using a _very_ new hardisk. I dont think its the harddisk (it'd better not be- there are some vendor necks that might get badly wrung if it is so) I have been using Redhat Distros right frm 6.x. But none of them have given me such probs. How old is your hard-disk? Anyway, for the present, if you want to proceed with your trial, use Redhat 8.0 instead of 9.0, and see what happens. The Debian distros seem to be better, but since you guys might end up using Linux for commercial purposes (as opposed to hobby purposes,) I'd suggest you carry on with Redhat (though admittedly, there might be an issue with RH 9.0). In the meanwhile, I'll fish around and get in touch with other users on this and other GLUGs, and on IRC hangouts, and see if any folks have this kind of a prob. If yes, I'll package an error report and send it to out. Other Gluggers- any comments? Have I missed out something in my line of thinking? And yes- anybody with screwed up file systems on RH 9.0? Yours, KZ -----------In respo to-------------------------- Dear Sir, We are using Red Hat Linux version 9.0 personnel edition. We have installed Custom-Everything on one of our PC on trial. After every say two-three days, we have the following stated problem. Only Re-Installing Linux 9 finds the solution to us. It do not upgrade as well. : :

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Red Hat Linux 9 booting problem.
by Pankaj Sarda 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

Dear Sir, We are using Red Hat Linux version 9.0 personnel edition. We have installed Custom-Everything on one of our PC on trial. After every say two-three days, we have the following stated problem. Only Re-Installing Linux 9 finds the solution to us. It do not upgrade as well. Attaching Log file contents for your reference. As Log file mentions, I have checked for latest release. And we are using the latest. Early reply sought. Thanks, Pankaj Sarda Breach Candy Hospital, Mumbai. Cell No: 91-98208-15827 The Log File contains ----------- XFree86 Version 4.3.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.3.0-2) Release Date: 27 February 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6 Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.20-3bigmem i686 [ELF] Build Date: 27 February 2003 Build Host: porky.devel.redhat.com Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/ to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present OS Kernel: Linux version 2.4.20-8 (bhcompile(a)porky.devel.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-5)) #1 Thu Mar 13 17:54:28 EST 2003 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Thu Jun 19 10:47:04 2003 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config" (==) ServerLayout "Default Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Videocard0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) XKB: model: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) XKB: layout: "us" (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (**) |-->Input Device "DevInputMice" (**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (++) using VT number 7 (II) Open APM successful (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.6 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.4 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.2 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.4 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x80000050, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7124 card 8086,7124 rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7125 card 8086,7125 rev 03 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,2418 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,2410 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,2411 card 8086,2411 rev 02 class 01,01,80 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:2: chip 8086,2412 card 8086,2412 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,2413 card 8086,2413 rev 02 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,2415 card 414c,4730 rev 02 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:07:0: chip 10ec,8139 card 11f6,8139 rev 10 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0006 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) Bus 1 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX[B] [1] -1 0 0x0000c400 - 0x0000c4ff (0x100) IX[B] [2] -1 0 0x0000c800 - 0x0000c8ff (0x100) IX[B] [3] -1 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xe4000000 - 0xe40fffff (0x100000) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (--) PCI:*(0:1:0) Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] rev 3, Mem @ 0xe0000000/26, 0xe4100000/19 (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Active PCI resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xe4000000 - 0xe40000ff (0x100) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0xe4100000 - 0xe417ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [2] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dc3f (0x40) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00005000 - 0x0000500f (0x10) IX[B] [7] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d01f (0x20) IX[B] [8] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f00f (0x10) IX[B] (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: [0] -1 0 0xe4000000 - 0xe40000ff (0x100) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0xe4100000 - 0xe417ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [2] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dc3f (0x40) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00005000 - 0x0000500f (0x10) IX[B] [7] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d01f (0x20) IX[B] [8] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f00f (0x10) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) All system resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xe4000000 - 0xe40000ff (0x100) MX[B] [6] -1 0 0xe4100000 - 0xe417ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [7] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [9] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [10] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX[B] [11] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dc3f (0x40) IX[B] [12] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B] [13] -1 0 0x00005000 - 0x0000500f (0x10) IX[B] [14] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d01f (0x20) IX[B] [15] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f00f (0x10) IX[B] (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module dbe (II) UnloadModule: "dbe" (EE) Failed to load module "dbe" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module extmod (II) UnloadModule: "extmod" (EE) Failed to load module "extmod" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.a (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 0.0.2 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) LoadModule: "glx" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module glx (II) UnloadModule: "glx" (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "record" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module record (II) UnloadModule: "record" (EE) Failed to load module "record" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a (II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 2.0.2 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "type1" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a (II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.2 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Type1 (II) Loading font CID (II) LoadModule: "dri" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module dri (II) UnloadModule: "dri" (EE) Failed to load module "dri" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "i810" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module i810 (II) UnloadModule: "i810" (EE) Failed to load module "i810" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module mouse (II) UnloadModule: "mouse" (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) No drivers available. Fatal server error: no screens found When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log". Please report problems to xfree86(a)xfree86.org.

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Redhat 9.0 CDs Wanted in Andheri (W)
by Vishal A. Belsare 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

We need Redhat 9.0 discs & are located in Andheri (W), Lokhandwala / Seven Bungalows area. We would like to have the installation discs and preferably also the documentation discs. If there's anyone in the proximity of Andheri and could lend us their set, we could copy the discs in a day and return. Alternatively, if there is some person / firm selling the set at a reasonable cost, we are willing to purchase. Please contact offlist on the sender's address as well as : aman0478(a)yahoo.com Vishal. "Desperation is sometimes as powerful an inspirer as genius." ~ Benjamin Disraeli.

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[OT][ACM] Seminar: Text Indexing
by Philip S Tellis 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

ACM Seminar - Text Indexing Friday, June 20, 2003 - 6:30 p.m. Speaker: Jayprasad J. Hegde Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu Blah blah blah.... Abstract: Ever wondered how Search Engines are able to search for a word in their maddeningly-huge collection of documents? The answer is simple - they use Indices. Indices are surrogates for documents, which are optimised for such search operations. In this seminar, we'll look at issues which play a big role in the choice of not only the approach chosen, but also the method used in construction. The seminar will wind-up with a look at Google's method of constructing indices. About the Speaker: Jayprasad J. Hegde (or "JJ" as he's fondly known) is a Scientist at NCST. He is currently interested in Information Retrieval - and this has nothing to do with what cops do with thugs - and also Machine Translation. He also happens to be the Chair of the ACM Mumbai chapter.

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WinFS horn in Longhorn
by Amol Hatwar 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

I remember M$ touting a new file system called CIFS. I wonder what happened to that... This time they're playing the WinFS horn in their new OS codenamed Longhorn. WinFS is supposed to be M$'s new file system that will make searches faster by maintaining multiple indexes. Also, it also has a built-in RDBMS engine for tracking files... More here: http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20030617/index.html Ciao, ah

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[En Avance] PDF is vulnerable
by Amol Hatwar 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

Those who follow security will find the following amusing: An anonymous person has again posted vulnerability information gleaned from the Computer Emergency Response Center (CERT) approximately 10 days in advance of CERT's intended release of information to the public. The vulnerability involves Adobe PDF files; the files might be able to execute arbitrary commands on a system viewing a PDF file that contains malicious hyperlinks. In past months, the anonymous poster who goes by the alias "Hack4life," has somehow managed to obtain private information from CERT without the company's knowledge and subsequently disclosed that information to the public before vendors were ready to do so. CERT works with vendors who experience security problems to coordinate patch and information release. The anonymous person's antics undermine that process. More here: http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=39320 -------- CERT walks the middle ground and does a good job of it, but it is a little humorous to see an entity dedicated to security struggle to protect its own information. The anonymous being behind the leaks even tells the world when new information will be released, and yet his or her identity remains a mystery. The lesson here is that security is only as good as your ability to discern the lack of it. If you ever reach a point where you think you're secure, you are at your most vulnerable then. Ciao, ah

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Signing email
by Subba Rao 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

Hello, I have installed GNU Privacy Guard on my Slackware system. How do I sign with my key for all the email that I send using mutt? Thank you in advance for any help. Subba Rao subba9(a)cablespeed.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old American Wild West saying: God created men but Colt made them equal. Today: Linus created Linux and Linux made IT companies equal.

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WANTING INFORMATION ABOUT FAST FILE SYSTEM FOR LINUX
by Deepakala G 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

I'm a final engineering student.I am doing a project on "A FAST FILE SYSTEM FOR LINUX". Can you send me some research papers on the same topic?And some hints on how to go about the project? SMS using the Yahoo! Messenger;Download latest version.

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[OT][COMMERCIAL] FS:Motherboard & RAM
by q u a s i 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

Upgrading my PC. Selling : DFi Motherboard with Via KM133 chipset (For Durons and 100FSB Athlons) Onboard ProSavage 3D accelerator Onboard AC97 sound 128MB SDRAM 133MHz Yamaha DX-SG PCI Soundcard Asking for Rs.2900/- for the lot. contact me off list if interested.

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Finding the maximum color depth?
by Subba Rao 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

My system has ATI Radeon video card (AGP) and a very good monitor that supports 1600x1200 resolution. I have used the default XF96Config generated by xf86cfg. The color depths listed in the Xf86Config are 1,4,8,15,16,24. How do I find out what is the maximum depth supported on this card? Thank you in advance. -- Subba Rao subba9(a)cablespeed.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old American Wild West saying: God created men but Colt made them equal. Today: Linus created Linux and Linux made IT companies equal.

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[OT][COMMERCIAL] FS:Motherboard & RAM
by q u a s i 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

Upgrading my PC. Selling : DFi Motherboard with Via KM133 chipset (For Durons and 100FSB Athlons) Onboard ProSavage 3D accelerator Onboard AC97 sound 128MB SDRAM 133MHz Yamaha DX-SG PCI Soundcard Asking for Rs.2900/- for the lot. contact me off list if interested.

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[OT][COMMERCIAL] WANT P3 CPU
by Harsh R Busa 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

Hi Luggers, I need a P3 CPU under 1Ghz ... that will fit on 810 MBD with 100MhZ FSB Can one help ? Thanks Harsh ---------------------------------------------------------------- NETCORE SOLUTIONS *** Ph: +91 22 5662 8000 Fax: +91 22 5662 8134 MailServ: Email, IM, Proxy, Firewall, Anti-Virus, LDAP Fleximail: Mail Storage, Management and Relaying http://netcore.co.in Emergic Freedom: Linux-based Thin Client-Thick Server Computing http://www.emergic.com BlogStreet: Top Blogs, Neighborhoods, Search and Utilities http://www.blogstreet.com Rajesh Jain's Weblog on Technology: http://www.emergic.org ----------------------------------------------------------------

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Setting up Wallpaper in fvwm
by Subba Rao 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

Hello, I am slowly (very) getting to understand the fvwm2 configuration. My desktop is slowly looking the way I would like it to look like. The only thing missing is the wallpaper. I am using Gnome 2 on Slackware 9 with fvwm 2.4.16. I tried to set a wall paper using GThumb and that did not work. How do I setup a wallpaper when fvwm session begins? Thank you in advance. -- Subba Rao subba9(a)cablespeed.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old American Wild West saying: God created men but Colt made them equal. Today: Linus created Linux and Linux made IT companies equal.

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fvwm and Mozilla
by Subba Rao 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

Hello again, It is about fvwm again. When I open some applications (particularly Mozilla, Netscape, GThumb) my wallpaper and the application do change into some psychdelic backgrounds. Each time the mouse focus moves from the application to the desktop or vice versa, the colors get swapped. I do not have any problems apps such as Acrobat or OpenOffice etc. They are working fine. Has anyone seen this behaviour before? How do I fix these color changes in display? Thank you in advance. -- Subba Rao subba9(a)cablespeed.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old American Wild West saying: God created men but Colt made them equal. Today: Linus created Linux and Linux made IT companies equal.

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[ILUG-BOM] Enterprise GNU/Linux implementation (a seminar at Mumbai)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 17 Jun '03

17 Jun '03

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unfortunately, the contact number announced earlier was wrong. The right phone number is 2826 1301. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ENTERPRISE GNU / LINUX IMPLEMENTATION Hotel ITC Grand Maratha Sheraton, Mumbai June 12 & 13, 2003 Day One Thursday, June 12, 2003 09:15: GNU/LINUX - GENESIS & ITS PRESENT RELEVANCE * Free Software Paradigm vs. Proprietary Software Paradigm * Fundamental Difference: o Is software a goods or a service? o Copy able and non-copy able resources * Ethics & Business Model for copy able resources * Creativity, Hacking & Publishing * Users� right to repair * What is the meaning of �free� in free software? * The genesis of Free Software: 1984 to today * The birth of GNU/Linux * Why is GNU/Linux Relevant? o Stability o Security o Virus Free o Open Standards o Economical o Social Relevance o Ethics & Economics o Education o Owned & Regulated by the community * Is it legal to sell free software? o Sell software with the source code * Free software in India Dr. Nagarjuna G Director (Free Software Foundation, India), Academic Member (HBCSE) 10:00: GOVERNMENT INITIATIVES Dr. S. Ramakrishna, Senior Director, Ministry of IT 11:00: OPEN SOURCE ENTERPRISE SOFTWARE ARCHITECTURE * Current trends and landscape of non-proprietary software * Open source, free software, GNU Public license - Explained * Industry trends in adoption of non-proprietary software in large * enterprises and organization - benefits and challenges * Role of open source / non-proprietary software, including Linux, in the * enterprise architecture planning in the near and medium-term future. * Defining Enterprise Architectures involving structured moves towards * increasing use of non-proprietary software. * Strategies for enterprise architecture planning and experiences in * adopting Linux and other non-proprietary software in complex settings * State of the industry in enterprise strength non-proprietary software * architectures Dr. Gautam Shroff, Head: Enterprise Architecture, TATA Consultancy Services 12:00: ENTERPRISE STRATEGIES AND CHALLENGES FOR LINUX MIGRATION 14.00: Strategies for Deploying Linux on Enterprise Servers Basant Kerketta, System Analyst The New India Assurance Co. Ltd. 14:45: LINUX IN AN ON-DEMAND ERA The emerging e-business on demand marketplace is resulting in heightened need for interoperability and standardization within the IT infrastructure that supports it. Linux shines out in this regard, because of it's unique ability to run across hardware platforms, right from embedded devices to the biggest mainframes in the business, as well as its ability to support a broad range of middleware, software and enterprise applications across the board. In this session the latest trends in Linux, as well as how it can used in various customer scenario's, to meet today's rigorous demands from cutting edge technology will be discussed Sandeep Menon, Linux Business Manager - ASEAN/SA, IBM India Ltd. 15:45 :Linux Usage in an Online Environment G.M. Shenoy, Sr. Vice President, NSE.IT 16.30 :Deploying GNU / Linux Abhijit Dasgupta, VP: IT, Times of India Group Day Two Friday, June 13, 2003 09.15: Deploying GNU / Linux in a Multi User / Multi Environment Dr. G. Sivakumar, Head: Computer Centre, IIT, Mumbai 10.00: Deploying Financial and HR applications on Linux Platform * The background under which we went in for the HR and Financial applications * What OS options were available to us * Why we chose Linux over others * What were the concerns * How we addressed these concerns * What was our experience with Linux implementation (what were the issues that we faced and how we resoved them) Neeraj Bhai, CTO, IDBI Bank 11.00 State of the Dolphin Gerardo Narvaja , MySQL AB 12:00: COST EFFECTIVE SUPER COMPUTING FOR THE ENTERPRISE An alternative to traditional supercomputing is a method of linking multiple computers together to form a unified and very powerful system.. Beowulf clusters are specialized supercomputers that are gaining popularity in the technical and enterprise computing market because of their high performance at a relatively low cost * Evolution of Supercomputing * Details of Beowulf Clustering and how to select the right cluster for your application * Designing a linux cluster * Network Interconnects * Storage management * Cluster Management and Monitoring * Scalabiltiy , Reliability and Availability. * Area of Applications * Case studies on price performance gain with clusters Narayanan Subramaniam, Technical Head Benz Infotech Consultancy Services 14:00: LEGAL IMPLICATIONS OF NON-PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE * The Alternative Intellectual Property of OSS * The Legal innovation involved in Open Source Software * Legal Validity of the GPL: Is the GPL legally enforceable? * Understanding the differences between the various licensing options available within the Open Souce Movement - the Free Software v. Open Source Debate * Survey of cases / judicial developments in the area Lawrance Liang, Legal Researcher, ALF 14.45 Deploying GNU/LINUX in eGovernance N. C. Nagarjuna Reddy Officer on Special Duty IG Registration & Stamps, Govt. Of A. P. 16:00: LINUX ON THE DESKTOP Breach Candy hospital runs a totally integrated hospital information system that runs on a Linux platform for both backend and front-end operations. Mr. Desai would discuss the implementation strategies and how this has benefited the hospital. Dilip Desai, Head IT, Breach Candy Hospital 16:20 GNU / Linux Deployment for the Enterprise - Indian Scenario * Is GNU / Linux Enterprise Ready ? * Economic viability of Linux implementation for the Enterprise. * Factors to be considered before deploying Linux in organizations. * Infrastructure Requirement. * Migration Challenges - Windows to Linux * Legal aspects of GNU / Linux Service providers. * Long term and short-term financial viability. * Evaluating economic viability of desktop implementation of GNU / Linux MODERATOR: Prakash Advani, Sr. VP, Netcore Solutions Pvt. Ltd. * Dilip Desai, Head: IT, Breach Candy Hospital * Shashank Sathe, CIO, Repro India Co-sponsors: Benz Infotech Consultancy Services Official Publications: Linux For You More information, contact: HASHIM POONAWALA T: +91-22-2826 1301 F: +91-22-2828 1305 or 2826 1305 E: hashim(a)marcusevansin.com abid(a)marcusevansin.com -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick Noronha (FN) | http://www.fredericknoronha.net Freelance Journalist | http://www.bytesforall.org http://goalinks.pitas.com | http://joingoanet.shorturl.com http://linuxinindia.pitas.com | http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks ------------------------------------------------------------------------- T: 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 M: 0 9822 122436 -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[ILUG-BOM] Please send your newsletters on chintamani1999@indiatimes.com
by Mandar Karmarkar 16 Jun '03

16 Jun '03

From, Mandar M. Karmarkar 10 Satsang Soc., Prarthana Samaj Rd., Vile Parle (East), Mumbai 400057. Tel: 2617 10 71 To, Linux Users Group, Dear Sir/Madam, I want to join Linux group. Please send all your informations on following e mail address: chintamani1999(a)indiatimes.com Because yahoo account is too small to contain attachments etc. I am providing data entry and office related services to various professionals. I am using MS office and want to learn linux but is it possible to load linux on my computer and at the same time use MS office ? Because all my work is done in word & excel. I want to learn the Linux for day to day work and want to use Linux practically. Waiting for your feedback. Thanking You, Yours Faithfully, Mandar Karmarkar Mandar Catch all the cricket action. Download Yahoo! Score tracker

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Changing over ... on the desktop
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 16 Jun '03

16 Jun '03

From: Vinayakam Murugan <vinayak(a)theargoncompany.com> The core business of our company is Linux based network management and email solutions for the SME market. (Note the subtle ad for our company ;-) ) But even within our company, apart from the techies, there is resistance to shift to the Linux desktop. We have now forcibly convinced ;-) our graphic designer to move. She is now using GIMP and getting used to it. This is definitely the way to go. Linux on desktops will go a long way in creating awareness and removing mindsets like OS=Windows Wordprocessor=MSWord -- Warm Regards ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vinayakam Murugan Manager - Software Solutions The Argon Company Pvt. Ltd. Dhanraj Mahal , "G" Block, Hi Vinayakam, I'm a Goa-based freelance journalist. It took me over one year to switch over, even after getting personally convinced that Free Software is a great concept. But once I switched over, I use GNU/Linux for 95% of my work. (The other 5% is spent in cybercafes, over which I wish I had more control/choice). It works fine for me. Stability, virus-free (except one work once ... for sticking to RedHat 6.2 long long after it was recommended, simple and clean tools and hardly any use of 'pirated' tools). But it takes time to get over the uncertainity and fear. FN -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick Noronha (FN) | http://www.fredericknoronha.net Freelance Journalist | http://www.bytesforall.org http://goalinks.pitas.com | http://joingoanet.shorturl.com http://linuxinindia.pitas.com | http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks ------------------------------------------------------------------------- T: 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 M: 0 9822 122436 -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[ILUG-BOM] initialisation scripts.. rc.sysvinit, rc0.d,rc1.d,rc2.d,..rc6.d
by ramesh thatha 16 Jun '03

16 Jun '03

is there any documents available which will explain properly about these runlevel scripts and initiallization scripts... Actually i am trying to create my custom linux operating system... So i need to learn about these initialisation scripts,,,,, 1. explanation about these scripts 2. customisation to suite our system... basically i want to get command over these scripts.. writing my own.......... thanks in advance Ramesh, student, IIT, Bombay --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

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GLUG site updated
by Kapil Karekar 16 Jun '03

16 Jun '03

hi gluggers ! The GLUG site has been updated to reflect the details of the June meet. I may have missed out a few points ... please point it out on the list so that I can rectify it. [ I like it when I get scolded publicly :)) ] For the uninitiated, the GLUG Mumbai site is at: http://www.ilug-bom.org.in Have fun :) Kapil Karekar ---- Kapil's blog coming soon at: http://www.libretech.com

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Kernel Compilation Blues
by Goldwyn Rodrigues 15 Jun '03

15 Jun '03

Hi, I am trying to install the new kernel 2.5.70, from kernel.org I compiled the kernel and the modules and installed it using make install. I installed the modules too using make modules_install. However after making the necessary changes to lilo and rebooting, I could not boot into the new kernel. The comp says "Uncompressing Linux..... ok" and hangs. No messages further. no error message... nothing. I tried it with initrd (and necessary changes to lilo.conf) using mkinitrd but even that does not work. Where am I going wrong? What modules will be required in the initrd files? I used only ext2 and ext3. -- Goldwyn :o) Windows 95 never has bugs. It just develops random features.

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postgreSQL+JDBC+JSP/Servlets.
by Raju Banavalikar 15 Jun '03

15 Jun '03

Hi All, I would like someone of you to contact me who has successfully implemented a project on postgreSQL+JDBC+JSP/Servlets. I would also like someone who has good knowledge of connecting postgreSQL to Java. Please get in touch with me. Warm regards, cOdEdRiLLeR wRoX.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Need Debian "Sid"
by linuxdev 15 Jun '03

15 Jun '03

I do have the debian-sid cds someone's asking for. However a word of warning ... Its not supposed to be a distro with full-fledged installer and all that. Rather consider it as "upgrade" cds. with tons of software. So you might need debian woody or knoppix handy before you go for debian-sid. I have 11 debian cds with the soft inside dated month of may. C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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DOC-SHOP Review TODAY
by PUKAR Monsoon 15 Jun '03

15 Jun '03

Dear Friends: PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research) invites you to the DOC-SHOP Review -- a series of student presentations followed by a two-hour panel discussion on archiving and documentation with ASHISH RAJADHYAKSHA, C.S. LAKSHMI and MADHUSHREE DATTA. This Review is the concluding event in the PUKAR Monsoon DOC-SHOP, a five-day workshop for undergraduate students held from 19-23 May 2003 at PUKAR. For more information about the DOC-SHOP, see http://www.pukar.org.in/doc-shop/index.html. The panel discussion will feature the following speakers: ASHISH RAJADHYAKSHA is Senior Fellow of the Centre for the Study of Culture & Society (CSCS), Bangalore (http://www.cscsban.org), and was the editor of the Encyclopaedia of Indian Cinema (1999). He is an active member of the editorial collective of the Journal of Arts and Ideas, and is a regular contributor to Framework and to Sight & Sound. He has written the book Ritwik Ghatak: A Return to the Epic (1983), was Editor, The Sad and Glad of Kishore Kumar (Research Centre for Cinema Studies, 1988); was Editor, with Amrit Gangar, of Ghatak : Arguments/Stories (Screen Unit/Research Centre for Cinema Studies, 1987). He is currently coordinating the CSCS Media Archive (http://www.cscsban.org/html/media_archive.htm). He was co-curator, with Geeta Kapur, of the exhibition Bombay/Mumbai 1992-2001, part of the exhibition Century City: Art and Culture in the Modern Metropolis, at the Tate Modern, London, 2001. C.S. LAKSHMI is the Founding Trustee and Director of SPARROW (Sound and Picture Archives for Research on Women), Mumbai (http://www.sparrrowonline.org). She writes fiction in Tamil under the pseudonym Ambai, and her translated stories have been published in a collection called A Purple Sea (Manas, 1997). She has been a researcher in women's studies for thirty years, and has authored The Singer and the Song: Conversations with Women Musicians (Kali for Women, 2000), the first in a three-volume oral history series called Seven Seas and Seven Mountains, with detailed interviews with fifty notable women in the arts in India. She is also the author of The Face Behind the Mask: Women in Tamil Literature (Stosius/Advent Books, 1984). MADHUSHREE DATTA has been making non-fiction and documentary films since 1993. Her first film was "I Live in Behrampada" (1993), on the Bombay riots in 1992-1993. She has since made eight films on diverse themes such as performance and female impersonation in "Sundari: An Actor Prepares", on visual cultures in "Made in India", on young girls growing up in "Memories of Fear", on the 12th century bhakti poet Mahadevi Akka in "Scribbles on Akka", and on sexuality and girl trafficking in "Ailo Bailo Sailo". She has written extensively on the politics of facts, and is presently working on a multi-part film on the mega-metropolis of Mumbai. She is a Founder Member and is the Executive Director of Majlis, Mumbai, a centre for multicultural initiatives. Date: TUESDAY 27 MAY 2003 Time: 5.00 P.M. to 7.00 P.M. Presentations from the PUKAR Monsoon DOC-SHOP 7.00 P.M. to 9.00 P.M. Panel Discussion on Archiving and Documentation At: PUKAR c/o Aragon Services 4th Floor, Kitab Mahal Dr Dadabhai Naoroji Road Mumbai 400001 Kitab Mahal is next to New Excelsior Cinema, and is near VT Station. Entrance to Kitab Mahal is from the New Book Company on Dadabhai Naoroji Road. _____ PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research) P.O. Box 5627, Dadar, Mumbai 400014, INDIA E-Mail <mailto:secretariat@pukar.org.in> Phone +91 (022) 2207 7779, +91 98200 45529, +91 98204 04010 Web Site http://www.pukar.org.in

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console browser
by q u a s i 15 Jun '03

15 Jun '03

Folks! Does anyone know of a HTML browser for the console with inline image support that is stabler than links with svgalib? I cannot use framebuffer. NeoMagic chipset does not support it I think. If we have this than the last piece is here. We wont need to use X unless specifically required. q

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[COMMERCIAL][JOBS]
by Sanjeev Tripurari 14 Jun '03

14 Jun '03

Hi, We are looking for people with 2 years of experience in PHP, Perl, Shell Programming, C (added advantage) on Linux platform. Pl forward your resume to info(a)cnpl.co.in, with the Subject: CGI-Programmer. Regards Sanjeev Tripurari Cybertech Networks Pvt Ltd 14/A/44, Vrindavan Society, Thane(W) - 400601 MS

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Problem regarding Ejection of KNOPPIX Cd
by harmeek singh jhutty 14 Jun '03

14 Jun '03

>Then again the question of ejecting the knx cd while its running. >No problems with that too as long as you don't try to start a >new software after ejecting the cd. The kernel and quite a >considerable amount is loaded into ram so it doesn't need the cd >for that. Keep whatever software you want running and then eject. >And to eject, first unmount the cd via root console then manually >eject ! :D i tried to do tht.i logged on as root(via Ctrl+Alt+F2) and unmounted the cd via root console but failed to eject it. moreover can anybody suggest me how to pass more then one arguments at the boot prompt of Knoppix3.2 cd.i want to pass "knoppix xvrefresh=60" and "single user mode command i.e knoppix1" simultaneously. plz help me out.thanks in advance. micky.

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[ILUG-BOM] Answers to our group(north mumbai group) queries by Javed Tapia, Director, RedHat-India - kunalbharati
by kunal bharati 14 Jun '03

14 Jun '03

First of all if any body is interested in GNU/Linux eduation for schools mail me. I have talked in Redhat about this , they have given positive response. Our group (north mumbai) had send some queries to redhat director, Mr.Javed Tapia, he has answered to the following questions : 1) What initiatives has Red Hat taken for Linux in India ? Ans: Red Hat has been at the forefront of evangelising the use of Open source & Linux in India.It has been working closely with the Government and the corporate sector towards educating them on the benefits of adopting the Linux as their platformvfor deploying Corporate applications. Simultaneosuly, keeping the home user in mind, it also launched extremely user friendly Linux Distributions of the likes of Red Hat Linux 8.0 last year and Red Hat Linux 9 this month. Corporates world over can now use Open Source in the form of Linux in all areas of Enterprise computing. Red Hat has launched a family of products for the enterprise called "Red Hat Enterprise Linux". For any technology to succeed, an ecosystem requires to be created to nuture the technology and help it mature. Red Hat has been working extremely hard in ensuring this..by getting its Enterprise Products certifed by OEMs, and have ISV's develop their range of applications on Red Hat Linux. By training people and helping them obtain Red Hat Certficiation, partnering with professional technology and IT training companies all across India and helping Governments & schools go open source Red Hat has helped in its own small ways take Linux to the Enterprise. 2) Is RedHat using Indian techie skills sufficiently? How? Ans: Red Hat's policy is to grow from with skill sets internally and over time grow in numbers with growth in business oppurtunities. Red Hat does value its employees both Technical and Non-Technical. The average techie at Red Hat is about 25 and comes to Red Hat from various locations across the country. Each employee be it Technical-Non Technical brings in his/her area of specialisation towards helping take the company to greater heights. Their contributions are towards Red Hat's Engineering, Product Development and Professional Consultancy business aspects. Is there any any Linux-related event on the cards from RedHat ? Ans: YEs. those on the anvil we will announce shortly. 4) Is RedHat aware that computing power is still an issue in India (i.e. many of us still use fairly old systems). If so, what attempts are being made to ensure such users are not hit by the heavy demands of recent distros? Ans:At Red Hat we always Endeavor towards delivering the best Open source has to offer. Towards achieving this objective, Red Hat is forced to keep up with the best and latest developments on the Desktop Front. Inspite of the huge processing demands of latest Open Source applications Red Hat makes sure that it has all the options available via its Installer to allow for suitable customisation for any low end x86 box. So you see, after all it just boils down to CHOICE which the user can exercise. 5) Why is RedHat going the bloatware way? Ans: Great question to ask. Bloatware in essence depends on ones point of view. Bloatware applications generally are those which get labelled for hogging huge Disk Space and Memory Resources. As mentioned previously, towards delivering the best and latest in terms of Open Source innovations to the consumer on the desktop; applications and their feature sets galore adding up to the size of the whole distribution. Though over years the final size of the Red Hat consumer Operating Systems have increased dramatically over time, one shouldn't fail to notice the evolution of Linux on the Desktop purely due to the fact the Operating Systems like Red Hat have endeavored towards delivering the Latest and the Best to the customer. Inspite of it all Red Hat is about providing customer the choice towards making an appropriate stripped down selection of packages for his/her machine. 6) What exactly was RedHat's contribution to the Goa Schools Computers Project? Ans: Red Hat provided the OS for all the machines, helped in the installation process and trained about 120 teachers on Linux essentials and use of office tools. 7) How have state governments here reacted to open source softwares ? Ans: The Governments have shown considerable interest to open source and Linux in particular. Recently it was heartening to hear the President of India too give a call to all Indians to go the open source way. In fact, we are currently working with MP Treasuries, Maharashtra Land Records among other projects.There a whole lot of project implementations by DIT for Mantralaya which run on Red Hat Linux. We also recently signed an MOU with NICSI ( the procurement arm of Governments) to develop a mechaniim towards delivering quantifiable services. 8) What has been the response of users to Linux as a business tool ? Ans: Extremely good. Lots of organisations are using open source not only as high cost saving tools but also for better performance. Business users today have a choice and dont need to get locked into one vendor. 9) Why Linux took such a long time to capture market ? Ans: Linux initially did not have any organisation to take responsibily for the software. This was critical for business users. Red Hat helped solved that problem. Also taking on a well entrenched player in any market takes time. An ecosystem also needs to be created which doesnt happen overnight. eg: if u send a spreadsheet created in open office, that receiver needs to be able to read and react. This was not possible till a while back and in some cases even now because of blocking strategies of market leaders. 10) Why should anybody continue using proprietary software? Ans: You tell me! 11) What is your endeavour to spread Free Software/Open Source in schools? Ans: A considerable number of schools have begun to use Linux, both as a network server and internet gateway and router and as a desktop operating system. With the recent enormous growth of interest in Linux this usage is certain to accelerate. Red Hat offers a radical alternative to the way schools have traditionally used computers: an alternative which is attractive in terms of cost, stability, control and security. 12) How many people do you employ in India? Ans: About 30 people. 13) Any plans to make your product more affordable by Indian standards? Ans: Our products are affordable by Indian standards and we will constantly endeavour to offer it at the best possible price. 14) What steps are you taking to bring Linux to home desktops where pirated Windows OS is flourishing? Ans: We are launching desktop OS versions every six months with better applications. We will also launch Red Hat in Hindi down the line. 15) How do you think Microsoft is taking Linux ? Ans: Better answered by them, dont you think?. Linux and its army of developers is something even a company of the likes of Microsoft can hire. I know you understand better than me....that its not always about money.....!!!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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putting linux on a laptop
by Gautam Bastian 14 Jun '03

14 Jun '03

dear linuxers, i have a rather antiquated Twinhead Slimnote 712cv laptop with the following config Intel Pentium 120 Mhz 16Mb RAM 1.04Gb HDD Touchpad pointing device 2PCMCIA slots i want to install debian on this system and use it for some basic wordprocessing, mail and stuff like that.. i would also like to use X, maybe with a light window manager like fvwm or flvwm. i've read a document at http://www.angieandthor.de/thor/boxes/endeavour.htm. i want to know if the SLIP based install is feasable using a computer running winXP and apache. i really would like to get this thing working soon so if anybody out there has any ideas about how i can do this any more easily or faster please do tell. gautam. By the time I'd grown up, I naturally supposed that I'd be grown up. -- Eve Babitz

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query reg Free-BSD
by kiwi 14 Jun '03

14 Jun '03

hii linuxers, i have heard of this beautiful os called Free BSD 5.....can anybody plz take the pain to tell me that where the cd,s for this software is available in town side. thanking u in anticipation cooldeep ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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Re: hardware problems
by Spencer Rasmussen 13 Jun '03

13 Jun '03

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PPPOE
by Vidyasagar 13 Jun '03

13 Jun '03

my cable internet guy uses the PPPOE protocol, how do i get that protocol in linux. i use Red Hat Linux 8.0(Psyche)

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Linux 9.0 .....by Hitesh
by Rajiv S Banerji 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

>From: hitesh gaa<hitesh226(a)yahoo.co.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] problem plz help >I had linux 9.0 installed and had partioned it automatically during >installation. by schnitt........ >From: Manish Jethani <manish.j(a)gmx.net> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] problem plz help > >Most of us are from 2003 A.D., when linux was only in 2.x >(2.4/2.5 as of this writing). You seem to have come down from a I agree that a newbie would be better off unanswered than this way! And any idiot can tell that Hitesh is talking about RedHat Linux 9.0. [2.4.20-8] What else can it, and what he is, be and talking about!! Since kernel version is out of the question and none of the other distros have reach that number - at least not exactly. And c-a-t is cat and b-a-l-l is ball. Now I can win the NYU spelling bee. No-Thanks to the smart alec. Brgds Radschiw

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problem plz help
by hitesh gaa 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

I had linux 9.0 installed and had partioned it automatically during installation. Now due to norton antivirus my mbr was corrupted and i thought by working in rescue mode and doing a 'dd' copy everything would work fine however during booting it directly went to windows without even prompting. By the fdisk of windows i came to know, that i still had the linux partitons but they were showing up as extended dos partitons. By some R&D i came to know that windows had enabled a large disk support by which my mbr was extended to 604 bytes and i think this is where the problem lied. However in rescue mode i came to know that actually my mbr was still 512 bytes. I think this is a bug in the linux rescue. Moreover the rescue mode told me that my windows was /dev/hda1 whereas actually windows fdisk told me it was /dev/hda2. Now neither rescue mode nor installation worked. So i deleted the extended partition and i thought reinstalling 9.0 would solve the problem. But during installation anaconda terminates abrubtly and flashes a error 'received signal 11' i tried to find out what this signal 11 is but to no use. Plz help i need to reinstall 9.0 as fast as possible. thank you Catch all the cricket action. Download Yahoo! Score tracker

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] problem plz help
by Nikhil Karkera 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 Manish Jethani wrote : >hitesh gaa wrote: > > > I had linux 9.0 installed and had partioned it automatically during > > installation. > >Most of us are from 2003 A.D., when linux was only in 2.x >(2.4/2.5 as of this writing). You seem to have come down from a >distant future. Many of us in 2003 believe that, by the time >linux is 9.0, Windows will be extinct. Your post seems to >suggest otherwise. Can you elaborate on the situation? What >year is this? Are you able to distinguish between linux-powered >humanoids and real humans? Are you human? > >time-machine running linux!). Also, these "people" seem to >exhibit a slightly lower IQ--either humans have gone dumb, or This is getting really old. Many newbies, trying GNU/Linux for the first time probably don't know the difference between a kernel version number and distro version number. The probably are even clear on the funda of a distro. Given that one of the objectives of the list is to encourage newbies to use GNU/Linux, such a reply doesn't help. This has happened so many times, I think one should understand by now that it is a common misunderstanding people have about version numbers. Hitesh, please mention what distribution of GNU/Linux you are using i.e. Red Hat, Debian etc. Also it's a good practice to use a meaningful subject line (on this list it's necessary). Regards, Nikhil.

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[ILUG-BOM] [Info-Commercial] Invitation to visit the InfoTech WorldExpo exhibition
by MagNet WebPublishing Pvt. Ltd. 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Hi All, We would like to invite you to our stall at the InfoTech WorldExpo organized at NSE Complex, Goregaon (E) during 13-15 June. We are launching "Radix Clever Client Solution Platform" at this expo. There will also be presentations about solutions and happening technologies in GNU/Linux. It will be great if you can make up for this event! Here are the details: Radix Solution Platform: --------------------- MagNet welcomes you to witness the launch of Radix Solution Platform. Explore server based computing on Linux. Discover how Radix can cut down IT software and hardware costs tremendously. Radix allows you to work remotely on Linux, Windows and Citrix and offers centralized management. Enterprise Solutions: --------------------- Learn what Linux has on offer for your company in areas like: - Messaging & Groupware - Desktop Productivity - Security - Knowledge Management - Document Management - Education / Virtual Learning - Web Development Linux Tech Showcase: -------------------- See the hot technologies and solutions: - Clever computing with Radix - Opie - Linux on Pocket PC - Kalculate - Linux Accounting Software - IndLinux - Knoppix Live Linux - Multimedia with mPlayer - Horde Groupware - Learning Management with Moodle Presentation Plan: ------------------ 13th June 4 to 4.45PM Linux on the Desktop 5 to 5.45PM Radix Clever Client Solution Platform 14th June 10 to 10.45AM Economies of GNU/Linux (by Dinesh Shah, Shah Micro Solutions) 4 to 4.45PM GNU/Linux for the Indian Enterprise 5 to 5.45PM Linux in Indian Languages (by Venkatesh Hariharan, IndLinux) 15th June 4 to 4.45PM GNU/Linux for the Indian Enterprise 5 to 5.45PM GNU/Linux and Education in India (by Prof. Jitendra Shah, VJTI) MagNet is glad to host Linux For You, IndLinux, Kalculate and ILUG-BOM / FSF India at the booth. You can catch up with Venky of IndLinux on Saturday. Would like to invite volunteers from the GLUB for Sunday! Special Offer: --------------- Get Knoppix Bootable Linux CD, IndLinux Indian Linux, Kalculate Pro accounting software (60 days trial) and a copy of Linux For You magazine. For Rs. 50 ONLY! (offer till stocks last, can change according to availability ;) I look forward to see you there! Regards, Nirav. ====================================================== | tangible, customized solutions for your e-business | | http://www.magnet-i.com/ | ======================================================

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KDE indianization
by Nilesh Bansal 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

We are trying to indianize KDE. We have translatted po file (of kedit) but after making mo file and putting it in appropriate dir (/opt/kde3/share/locale/hi/LC_MESSAGES/kedit.mo ) and exporting lang variable when we started kedi we saw no change. When we started kedit again it showed square boxes for all entries(both translated and untranslates). When i copied german mo file in hindi dir then also it showed boxes. While when LANG=de it works fine in german. Anybody having any idea why so?? Most interesting is that after placing mo file and starting kedit first time we saw no change but second time onwards(even after deleting hindi mo file) when LANG=hi it shows only boxes. Anybody having any ides. Nilesh Bansal.

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[ILUG-BOM] hi could someone pls help me configure the internet connection!
by Rohan Niranjan Ullal 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Hello Every1, I am having Red Hat 9.0 and have an internet connection from a cable internet provider. Actually its an ethernet and I have been given a static IP/netmask : 172.16.56.202/255.255.255.252 . I have also been given a gateway : 172.16.1.1 and a DNS server IP : 172.16.1.1 . I have configures device eth0 to have static IP address and default gateway is also configured. THe internet connection I ude first requires me to log on with a username and password by first going on the 172.16.1.1 website. I am able to browse the ethernet. Able to log on see my usage. But when I have to go somewhere on to the internet it gives me a message connection refused when attempting to connect to... when i ping those websites it says network unreachable. I tried to install squid but squid wont start it gives an error about some unknown name???? pls help me as thats the only reason preventing me to totally switch over to GNU/Linux from other operating systems. Thank u for ur time Rohan :)

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Redhat,,,Knoppix,,,,
by junaid 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

Hi guys I'm very new to linux so help. I'm not able to instll redhat 7.2 on my machine .its not probing monitor and video drive itself...so i selected the wright one in the list ....the ones which mandrake recognises and works fine.....still redhat after the whole process of installation on sending termination signals shows monitor and video drive not found ..and doesn't run on rebooting.. My machine is Amd....Asus (MB)...Nvidea (Chip set) ...Video d. Ge Force 2 I tried ELX which i got in linuxforu , it also gives the same problem. Knoppix 3.2 is giving a bit different probs....as soon as it starts booting from cd , it automaticaly switches on the power management and shows me 'Operating frequency out of range ' and switches off the monitor in 20secs. My monitor is LG Studioworks 500G. Catch all the cricket action. Download Yahoo! Score tracker

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] HELP ON lfy KINOPPIX Cd WITH ROOT PASSWORD
by linuxdev 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

For the root passwd problem, here's my take: its renewed and encrypted each time u boot into knoppix. so you can't find it out. (anyone? :D) However they provide the mighty root console via the start>knoppix sub menu of kde. Oh and it gives direct root access. After all you are the only one. its the cleanest and official option. However mounting hdd partitions is a matter of click since knx identifies and lists them on desktop by default. No need be root for that. Then again the question of ejecting the knx cd while its running. No problems with that too as long as you don't try to start a new software after ejecting the cd. The kernel and quite a considerable amount is loaded into ram so it doesn't need the cd for that. Keep whatever software you want running and then eject. And to eject, first unmount the cd via root console then manually eject ! :D Actually i tried this as i only have a cd-writer and no cd-rom drv. so i kept xcdroast running, mounted my hdd partitions, ejected the cd. burned a new cd and popped the knx cd back again. smooth eh ? although there's a little problem when you remount. Perhaps something to do with the mounting options. try it and let me know, C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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HELP ON lfy KINOPPIX Cd WITH ROOT PASSWORD
by Ankur is here in ur inbox...... 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

hi guys, i require some help can anyone tell me the root password for the LFY Kinoppix cd which came along with this month's issue.. i need to mount my drives ...but for that the system ask's me for root password..and also can anyone tell me how can i eject the LFY KINOPPIX cd after i have booted from it.. Thanking you in advance. Ankur Ankur ___________________________________________________ Get www. mycompany .com and 5 matching email ids. Just Rs. 1499/ year. Click here http://www.rediffmailpro.com

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Problem with display driver
by kunal bharati 10 Jun '03

10 Jun '03

I tried to install Redhat 9.0 on my PC. I am having S3 Graphics Prosavage DDR for the display. It detected it as S3 Prosavage KM133 because Redhat 9.0 didnt detected my display driver. I can run Redhat 9.0 at 800x600 resolution , 256 color display. Can anyone suggest me from where I can download rpm for S3 Graphics Prosavage DDR I searched on google but I didnt got that thanks, Kunal __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

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Re:Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: PHP help needed
by Dot Dot 10 Jun '03

10 Jun '03

>It's one thing to ask for help configuring PHP on your box. But >this was just asking for how to program in PHP/JavaScript. It's >like asking beginner C questions on this list just because GCC >is free software. I will suggest that we stop trying to moderate every user and ask for a perfect mailing list with all well behaved members. >> request - plz tone down your replies. We don't want to be >> percieved as unfriendly to newbies/question posers. > >I think my reply was very friendly, by ilug-bom standards :) Vinayak, I will classify some of your replies as very unfriendly too. If you guys want to flame each other, why don't you do it sending a personal mail. Don't ask me why I'm not sending personal mails. :) Lets get back to Linuxing. __________________________________________________________ Get Your Electric Email at http://webmail.electricmela.com

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[Commercial] Virus protected mailbox for Rs. 499/-
by Amit Redij 10 Jun '03

10 Jun '03

Hi all, We provide GNU/Linux based network management services and solutions; our strength lies in our suite of connectivity (E-mail and Internet) services, one of which is TAS-Secure Mailbox. Available at the unbelievable Introductory offer price of Rs. 499.00, a TAS-Secure Mailbox provides SECURITY from all incoming virus-infected e-mail. MailScanner, the highly respected open source e-mail security system, which is freely distributable under the GNU Public License, is the core application on which the TAS-Secure Mailbox service is based. Features of the TAS-Secure Mailbox include . Virus Protection at the Mail Server Level - virus-infected e-mail messages are not allowed to enter your TAS-Secure Mailbox, the e-mail is "quarantined" at the Server level . E-mail notifications are generated when a virus-infected e-mail is "quarantined", and sent to both the intended recipient and the sender . Mailbox storage capacity: 10 MB . Auto-responder function . Auto-forward function - you don't have to bother telling your contacts that you now have a new e-mail ID - simply auto-forward your mail from your existing Mailbox to this new, secure and virus-free TAS-Secure Mailbox . Mailbox Usage Indicator For further information and to sign-up for a FREE 30-day trial TAS-Secure Mailbox, please visit us at www.tassm.com. The Argon Company, Mumbai. www.theargoncompany.com regds Amit Redij

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Some weired problem with Installation
by Shashank Ashtikar 09 Jun '03

09 Jun '03

Hello Everyone, I recently purchased a PC and installed knoppix 3.2 on it. But I ran in to a strange problem with it. <problemDescription> After installing GNU/Linux for the first time with xfs filesystem. suddenly after few days I recieved an error from INIT which said getty not found and got stuck at that. Suspecting a damaged file system I ran xfs_recover on the root partition. After recovery the OS worked fine for few days but only to run in to the same problem again. This time also I repaired the filesystem and OS worked fine. But the problem kept coming back. Hence after a while I reinstalled GNU/Linux with ReiserFS. With this the OS worked fine for another 15 days, but after 15 days it crashed bad this time it was saying INIT panick exception violation at (some hex address) waiting for 30 sec and I got the same message after every 30 second. suspecting a bad HDD I ran badblocks command on it to find and fix any badblocks present. But none were found. And recovery was also not feasible this time Hence now I have reinstalled GNU/Linux with ext3 filesyste. IT's working fine so far(I ve not passed that evil 15th day yet). Hope I won't run in to the same problem again. </problemDescription> I was told that there are some issues regarding xfs filesystem in knoppix hence I took the decision of reinstall for the first time. On both the occasions system was shutdown properly. And syslog did not report any abnormilities. Can any one shed some light on this. Thanks in Advance Shashank

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Runaway ESR
by Amol Hatwar 09 Jun '03

09 Jun '03

Wonder if any one of you came across this @ Slashdot. It's about ESR adding his own jargon descriptions to the well-known jargon file he maintains. You can see the post here: http://slashdot.org/articles/03/06/08/1534249.shtml?tid=99 For people too lazy to point their browsers here's a short description: ---Starts-- As reported by NTK, ESR appears to have embarked apon the process of recasting the Jargon File in his own image, adding terms like "Aunt Tillie" and "GhandiCon" that he dreamt up and seemingly no-one else uses, and various terms from (of all places) the warblogging community, where he is active. He's also updated the "Hacker Politics" page to be more closely aligned with his own views. --Ends-- Regards, Amol Hatwar.

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SCO evidence
by Amol Hatwar 09 Jun '03

09 Jun '03

Seems that SCO has given evidence to analysts at the Aberdeen Group; some 80 lines of it. More details here: http://eet.com/sys/news/OEG20030606S0039 As of now, I think SCO's making a mountain out of a mole-hill. But then here is one concern presented in the article: <i>If SCO (Lindon, Utah) prevails in its legal efforts, many observers believe the action could, at best, result in hundreds of multimillion-dollar licensing payments from Fortune 1000 companies and, at worst, damage the foundation of open-source software.</i> Well, I knew OSS was based on wrong principles--kind of a leg-in-leg, but this will certainly raise questions on the immunity of Free Software from such claims. Any expert opinions here? Amol Hatwar.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] debian cramfs? kernel panic unable to mount
by Satish Alwani 08 Jun '03

08 Jun '03

By the looks of things, you may also want to use a rescue disc, and check your lilo for the correct root device, or other lilo options. Since its asking you to enter directly to shell, that looks like single-user mode. If you have upgraded the kernel, try booting back to the last working kernel, or the original kernel. If this fails as well, means you prolly have to check the lilo options. Its very unlikely for a filesystem to die off.

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PHP vs. ASP .NET
by Amol Hatwar 07 Jun '03

07 Jun '03

I recently came across this article defending PHP against ASP .NET. Pretty interesting stuff. :) Must read for pedagogues, purists and pundits. Here's the link: http://blogs.phparch.com/index.php?m=200305#128 P.S. PHP5 is something to be watched. I guess it'll break the mold once again! Cheers, Amol Hatwar.

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Help me Pukar Urgently !!!!!!!!
by chetanjain 07 Jun '03

07 Jun '03

Pukar can i get the exatt address where we r actually meeting n about the time......mail me plsss urgently....n the time 2222 chetan --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).

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long time no events....hands on workshops for bombayites
by Trevor Warren 07 Jun '03

07 Jun '03

Hello Luggers, Its been a really long time since we did some real open workshops for bombayites. What say???. Am all for getting this on the road. Trevor -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor(a)clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Reviving the PRC
by Himanshu shukla 07 Jun '03

07 Jun '03

Its a wonderful thought, and I was personally greatly disappointed when it didn't kick off last time. However, the PRC is just as it was, and I have not deleted anything from the site..the passwords, usernames, etc are still present. If we can do anything to get it going, that'll be great. Cheers, Himanshu -----Original Message----- From: "GNUrpreet Singh" <gnurpreet(a)softhome.net> To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:47:55 +0530 Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Reviving the PRC GLUG Meeting on 8th 4pm at PUKAR, Near CST. ------------------------------------- hello friends Trevor, FN and I were thinking of reviving the very noble concept of the "Project Resource Center" which trevor n Dr. Nag started last year.The idea was that we have pros on the mailing lists who can very well mentor free s/w projects. we can have a place where students can come and choose projects and interact with their respectve mentors and maybe also have meetings with them on regulr intervals. This would help both the community as there will be more development and also the students coz they can find projects to work on. The idea is quite noble and it did help us a lot last year. This, I think would be a good time to start the PRC again bcoz in a short while, the BE students will start looking for projects to do as thier final year project and we can use this opportunity to put them onto free software projects. This would help them in their acads and we can gather up some more free software for the community. A good way to start would be to... o prepare a list of the people intereseted on the mailing lists in india who are ready to mentor proejects. o List down the projects that can be given out. a few options might be... -contributions on indlinux (what say karunakar??) -some development on libyahoo on which mr philip tellis has been working... - gknowledge (dr. nag, can we have some modules on which some students can work??) - etc etc (ooh! this is a nice project '-) ) Lets take this all over India this time and try to get more and more people(both students and mentors) on this. Who else can do the work of spreading the word better than FN :). FN, can we have the word spread to all the mailing lists in the country. I m posting this on the mumbai and pune GLUGs. Goa and Bealgaum GLUGs are the one i know of, you ofcourse would know of many more such destinations where you can have this mail. It would also be great if you can have the PRC mentioned in the next issue of LFY(if thats not too much of a trouble.) I think we will have to conduct a few more workshops around us if the idea has to be spread to the majour colleges. I will try and push to have one workshop organised some time in july in South maharashtra(would be either in RIT, Sangli or DY Patil COE, Kolhapur (bhaskar, u getting this??) ). May be the PLUG can have a few workshops done in engg colleges in pune and spread the idea, what say pluggerz?? suggestions and ideas invited. regards GNUrpreet -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers o all the mailing lists in the country. I m posting this on the mumbai and pune GLUGs. Goa and Bealgaum GLUGs are the one i know of, you ofcourse would know of many more such destinations where you can have this mail. It would also be great if you can have the PRC mentioned in the next issue of LFY(if thats not too much of a trouble.) I think we will have to co

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meet
by pitcom＠vsnl.com 07 Jun '03

07 Jun '03

Hi... all I may join at the meet at PUKAR Regards Kamlesh

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[ILUG-BOM] Help needed to convert VB application on open source - commercial
by Rakesh Goyal 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

we have an application with front-end as VB6 on win98/nt/2k. reporting tool used is Crystal report 8.5. back-end can be rdbms connected thru odbc. aaa. we have replaced rdbms to win-Mysql under windows environment with minor modifications but crystal-report is not supporting mysql (under win2k environment) any help / guidance on report-generation tool on mysql under windows environment will be appreciated. bbb. next, we intent to migrate / convert the application on linux, mysql / postgresql with browser-front-end using perl/php. any help for conversion or trainging on commercial basis is appreciable. Rakesh Goyal Sysman Computers P Ltd. Mumbai sysman(a)vsnl.com / sysman(a)sysman.org

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GLUG website updated
by rohitash panda 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

hi guys, this might probably be my first ILUG meet.its must have taken pains from you people to arrange for this kind of meet.I would also like to contribute to something in the near future once i get to know about the workings. regards rohit Life is a sexually transmitted disease. Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.Unix is very user-friendly. It`s just picky who its friends are. ___________________________________________________ Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com . Just Rs.1499/year. Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more.

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Reviving the PRC
by GNUrpreet Singh 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

hello friends Trevor, FN and I were thinking of reviving the very noble concept of the "Project Resource Center" which trevor n Dr. Nag started last year.The idea was that we have pros on the mailing lists who can very well mentor free s/w projects. we can have a place where students can come and choose projects and interact with their respectve mentors and maybe also have meetings with them on regulr intervals. This would help both the community as there will be more development and also the students coz they can find projects to work on. The idea is quite noble and it did help us a lot last year. This, I think would be a good time to start the PRC again bcoz in a short while, the BE students will start looking for projects to do as thier final year project and we can use this opportunity to put them onto free software projects. This would help them in their acads and we can gather up some more free software for the community. A good way to start would be to... o prepare a list of the people intereseted on the mailing lists in india who are ready to mentor proejects. o List down the projects that can be given out. a few options might be... -contributions on indlinux (what say karunakar??) -some development on libyahoo on which mr philip tellis has been working... - gknowledge (dr. nag, can we have some modules on which some students can work??) - etc etc (ooh! this is a nice project '-) ) Lets take this all over India this time and try to get more and more people(both students and mentors) on this. Who else can do the work of spreading the word better than FN :). FN, can we have the word spread to all the mailing lists in the country. I m posting this on the mumbai and pune GLUGs. Goa and Bealgaum GLUGs are the one i know of, you ofcourse would know of many more such destinations where you can have this mail. It would also be great if you can have the PRC mentioned in the next issue of LFY(if thats not too much of a trouble.) I think we will have to conduct a few more workshops around us if the idea has to be spread to the majour colleges. I will try and push to have one workshop organised some time in july in South maharashtra(would be either in RIT, Sangli or DY Patil COE, Kolhapur (bhaskar, u getting this??) ). May be the PLUG can have a few workshops done in engg colleges in pune and spread the idea, what say pluggerz?? suggestions and ideas invited. regards GNUrpreet

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Directions to PUKAR
by joel_divekar 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

Hi I am joining too along with my friend(s). Regards Joel "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India"<linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> wrote: Hi, > guys attending to this meet plsssssssss do reply to this mail....i am coming..Pukar > plss reserve my seat for the meeet...... I will also make it! We can discuss about the expo and finalize things. Regards, Nirav. ====================================================== | MLEP - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP education program | | http://www.mlep.com/ | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | tangible, customized solutions for your e-business | | http://www.magnet-i.com/ | ====================================================== -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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who's coming
by chetanjain 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

who's is coming for the meet ....n if what r the expences for it....waiting for an early reply....from pukar... chetan --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).

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Pukar
by Satish Alwani 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

I should be there too!! about 98% --- I leave my 2% to work! :)

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Re: Directions to PUKAR
by MagNet WebPublishing Pvt. Ltd. 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

Hi, > guys attending to this meet plsssssssss do reply to this mail....i am coming..Pukar > plss reserve my seat for the meeet...... I will also make it! We can discuss about the expo and finalize things. Regards, Nirav. ====================================================== | MLEP - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP education program | | http://www.mlep.com/ | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | tangible, customized solutions for your e-business | | http://www.magnet-i.com/ | ======================================================

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[Fwd: [ilug-goa] GNU/Linux positions in Pune][OT]
by Trevor Warren 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

-----Forwarded Message----- From: Frederick Noronha (FN) <fred(a)bytesforall.org> To: ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com Subject: [ilug-goa] GNU/Linux positions in Pune Date: 30 Apr 2003 03:24:20 +0530 Message: 3 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:49:47 +0530 (IST) From: <careers(a)acclivitous.com> To: <plug-mail(a)plug.org.in> Subject: [PLUG] [COMMERCIAL] Positions for Linux Experts in Pune Reply-To: plug-mail(a)plug.org.in Hi, We have the following positions open with one of our MNC clients in Pune. If match the profile and are interested, please email your detailed resume to careers(a)acclivitous.com. Please mention the post applied for in the subject. ** Senior Software Engineer - Linux: - At least 4 years of experience in programming in Linux/Unix environment: C/C++, Perl, Python, Shell Scripting, XML - Knowledge of development tools and networking - Good Communication Skills - Ability to work in fast paced environment - Experience working with remote development teams is a plus - Commitment to delivering high quality software on time. - Familiar with full life cycle of software development ** Software Engineer- Linux: 2-3 years development experience on Linux/Unix. Sound knowledge of Unix Operating System internals and good trouble-shooting skills. Programming experience in languages like C, C++ and sound knowledge of Object Oriented concepts is a must. Programming Experience with Internet technologies like DNS, Mail, web servers, web-hosting, FTP, and SSH are highly desirable. Knowledge of Redhat packagers a must. ** Build and Release Engineer: The ideal candidate will have solid background in Windows and Linux build environment, good experience with CVS and the ability to implement an automated process to build and release. Nice to have skills include Perl, PHP, VB, bash and knowledge of .NET technologies. The candidate will be responsible for ensuring quality and delivery of builds. Work closely with Development Team and coordinate/drive the build development/release process. - Keep abreast of the build process and associated changes on an ongoing basis. - Introduce ongoing improvements/automation in the release process. - Troubleshoot build errors and maintain release matrix. ** Systems Engineers (Linux) for customer advocacy group: - Strong knowledge in Linux. - Extensive knowledge of Apache, BIND, Sendmail, POP3/IMAP4 is mandatory - Knowledge of Web hosting business - Extensive hands-on experience (2 years Linux Sys Admin) - Windows 2000 Server experience is desirable - Strong knowledge in network and systems architecture, firewalls and Internet technology - Should know vi or equivalent editor (to edit documents in a UNIX environment) - Ability to grasp technical information quickly with proven track record in logical problem solving techniques to troubleshoot system problems independently - Superior customer service skills with excellent verbal and written skills Thanks, Rinku Chopra --__--__-- ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! http://us.click.yahoo.com/xaxhjB/hdqFAA/bW3JAA/0XFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To Post a message, send it to: ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: ilug-goa-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevorwarren(a)softhome.net __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales - Technical, Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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Pentium based Linux machine, over 6000 days' uptime??
by Tahir Hashmi 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

Hi all! http://counter.li.org/reports/uptimestats.php says that the longest running Linux machine has an uptime of an incredible 6011 days as of 2003-06-05 17:35 hrs. Two questions: 1) Since how long has Pentium been around? 2) Since how long has Linux been around? Go figure! -- Tahir Hashmi Compact XML Alternative - http://xqueeze.sf.net

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Hands-On Workshop
by Bhushan Kelshikar 05 Jun '03

05 Jun '03

hi luggerz !!! i would have loved to come to the meet and also volunteer for any job if required. sadly i have my exams coming up so i may not be able to participate. :-( hopefully we have more meets ... and i would be able to attend !!! newayz ... cheers to all u luggerz !!! bhushan q u a s i wrote: > At 12:36 morn 6/5/03 +0530, DS wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I would recommend the meet on 8th June at this venue, if Mr. Shekhar is >> open to the idea of course. Since this place is centrally located, more >> ppl will be able to attend and more ideas to explore. >> >> For the agenda we can have following things, >> >> 1. Discussion about GLUG-Bom and PUKAR partnership. >> 2. Discussion about the offer of Magnet-I and participation in the expo. >> 3. Techi talk on Wi-Fi in GNU/Linux by Trevor? >> >> What say guys? > > > Good Idea. I would also suggest that we charge a minimal fee -- > ~20Rs. or something & provide snacks. The best part about the GLUG > meets is the interaction with group members -- not the talks IMHO. It > would be good if we have more informal time to chat & discuss than to > sit formally and listen to someone yak. A debate, game or something > interactive would be great as it would cut the ice. > > If any volunteering is needed, I am available. > > I also kinda like the HBCSE place ... '-) > > quasi > > -- `, Cheers... ,\, # Enjoy !!! |/ ? --------- | ~ )\ Bhushan G. Kelshikar /_ /\ \____ e-mail: bhushan16(a)yahoo.com <mailto:bhushan16@yahoo.com> ~_/ \ url : http://bhushankelshikar.tripod.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

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console browser
by q u a s i 05 Jun '03

05 Jun '03

Folks! Does anyone know of a HTML browser for the console with inline image support that is stabler than links with svgalib? I cannot use framebuffer. NeoMagic chipset does not support it I think. If we have this than the last piece is here. We wont need to use X unless specifically required. q

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Preemptive Kernel patch
by Nikhil Joshi 05 Jun '03

05 Jun '03

Hi! After unsuccessful attempt to build 2.5.70 kernel I applied preemptive kernel patch on 2.4.20 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml/preempt-kernel/v2.4/ The improvement is noticeable. XMMS runs smoothly even when running Mozilla ( yes Mozilla is sort of benchmark for me :) ) I've compiled my soundcard module into the Kernel. Those who cannot wait for preemptive feature but are finding it difficult to make 2.5.70 work should certainly check this out. System Config: Cyrix MII 233 MHz 64 MB RAM CMI 8738 PCI Sound Card bzImage size = 724K -- Nikhil Joshi http://nikhiljoshi.cjb.net

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Problem related to kernel-2.5.70
by Tapeshwar Nath 05 Jun '03

05 Jun '03

Hi all, I am trying to upgarde my kernel from 2.4.18 to 2.5.70. I have downloaded the latest kernel and enabled preemptive nature in it. I have also modified the .config file to suit my needs. I did "make modules " and then "make modules_install". After this "make bzImage" . Everything went fine and i got the image. I copied that image in the /boot directory and modified lilo.conf and ran lilo. While trying to boot into this new kernel i get this message "....... Uncompressing LINUX ok... " and then the machine hangs. Is there anythign special that needs to be done. If i can get any pointers then it will be of great help. Thanks Ciao Tapesh __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] gnome/kde ?
by linuxdev 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

I refuse to be drawn into the small "goodies" feature by feature comparison of gnome/kde anymore. simply because one man's food is another guy's poison. Both are equally valid in different environments. >Trust me file chooser is a first year programming >project, but at the same time most used dialog. C >and callback mechanism of event handling in UI is a >stumbling block, and in absence of OO, things >quickly become bad. You answered your own question there. And i add that they do have a nice roadmap in place and almost there. They have managed to a hell of a job without OO. Kudos to the gnome team for working out things. >So you mean you dont care if some corporate biggies >comes and exploits GPL, plays hostile and demeans >OSS projects? AS a glug member I was expecting >something else from you. Ignorance is not bliss. Ignorance is not on this side of the line, believe me. Your reference to KDE's slowness was an article of the year 2001 with gcc 2.95 in question. and even there the author points out that the faults lie with kde and not gcc. I seriously disagree on the point of RH exploiting GPL. They give you freedom to modify whatever stuff you get from them. So you simply cannot whine. Don't like it then change it or don't use it. But don't blame it for not including your favorite ice-cream with a cherry on top. The "demeaning" theory that you talked about only started floating around when rh modified kde (m'be even stripped it a little) for its 8.1 psyche. for 9.0 they give you the full dosh. >IceWM! IceWM! Its the coolest one. ?? >Using GTK is the biggest mistake done by gaim AND by abiword and by openoffice and by few hundred other perfectly useful other apps. And guess what ? they separated the core and the gui in the latest release of gaim. The plugin architechture has been cleaned up too. :D > pain to minimum. I don't expect to go on a tweaking trip as soon as i > install a desktop. I would like the options sensible enough. Gnome does > that. KDE might, i'll leave that question. >Please justify your claim in Gnome doing any better >than KDE. Gnome simply doesn't do it better than KDE for you because you choose it not to. For me it does :D. The default options of both kde and gnome suck equally for me and am not talking of redhat. both need a good theme set besides really big toolbars, flashy scrollbars, plump buttons etc. Gnome has one in place called Mist while KDE does it with a combination of 2 or three modifications. I forget the names. >My recommended option has been FTP install, but you may not access to a filthy >Net connection as I have ;) I got Mandrake 9.1 CDs too, and would be willing >to share with you, if Sameer lets us, next meeting would be in IITB, and IF >my DDP lets me, I am planning to attend it. Ah yes i do lack the access to the 2mbps(or 4 for iits?) ernet connection. so its still cds for me. I'll try to make it to iitb too. cya, C P.S: I'll keep my next post on filesystems. enough of gnome/kde. its choice and no more no less. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Meeting on June 8th
by Nagarjuna G. 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

Is the meeting planned, venue and agenda. Let me know in advance if HBCSE venue is required. Due to science olympiad camps presently going on at the centre unless I make reservation the lecture room may not be available. We also need volunteers to maintain the keep the informations uptodate. Even if the drafted material is sent to me I will update the site. Will find it difficult to manage writing it myself. We had several workshops and at least two monthly meetings, and the website is not updated. Is there a write up on recent workshop at Hubli. Nagarjuna -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ nagarjun at hbcse tifr res in. http://www.gnowledge.org/ I support Public Library of Science http://www.plos.org/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Problem related to kernel-2.5.70
by linuxdev 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

There could be 3 points where you are having trouble 1. you haven't selected the proper config for yer sys. 2. selected your boot fs as a module 3. not used the latest modutils avlbl. at ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rusty/modules/module-init-tool… There is one very imp. point i happened to note while working with 2.5.x kernels. It picks up the configuration of your current kernel if its lying around in your /boot or in /usr/src/xyz . This creates problems due to introduction of unwanted extraneous symbols and values. So the best way is to touch .config before make xconfig or menuconfig. also please read the readme in the modutils bzball closely else you'll end up messing up ur distro. If you are uncomfortable with the modutils the best way is ofcourse compile nothing as a module. Build-in all possible options and check if it works. hope that helps, C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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filesystems and a little gnome/kde ;)
by linuxdev 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

Alright, here's a mail on my filesystems. But please note its a end-user experience rather than a highly scientific study with stats of any kind. Tho i do provide a link where a server admin from Oregon state did that recently. First and foremost ext2 is a winner for speed because it lacks journalling. So its more or less unfair. Secondly for journalled fs, its slightly dependent on the distro you use since the kernel _may_ be patched for improving the performance on a particular fs. A journal is a sort of double entry to state it crudely. so you don't lose the data even if you crash. It simply reverts to the older copy on disk on next boot. thats faster booting time. Ext2: This is one of the oldies and the fastest fs on the block. But also the most yuckiest in crash recovery. If you have a nice big installation (most of the libs,devel rpms are in place.) you'll have loong startups after crash. Then again if you are low on space ext2 wastes a little more than others since its block allocation is fixed. Ext3: Basically ext2 with a journal. Now by general logic one would think that it ought to be nearly as fast as ext2. But no, ext2 wasn't meant to be a journalling fs so its more like an addon to it. A heavy addon which pulls down its performance. There are options to ext3 journalling : ordered,writeback,journal. of which writeback is fastest since journalling is put off for sometime. Now my experience with this has been a little unhappy on a default rh. i guess its their patches. But moment i recompiled my kernel with rc6-ac2 patch to boot i got a good perf. not as good as reiserfs tho. Reiserfs: This is a fs written from scratch and under heavy development. It uses B+ trees for its structure and consequently packs in more data in smaller space. This option of packing in smaller data into smaller spaces takes a little calculation and hence time. Turn it off by the notail option and you have a fast fs on your hands. Now this fs has a peculiar characteristic. Its fast for small filesizes about 6mb max. beyond this the performance in terms of read/write times degrades a bit.This however is true of current version 3.6 in 4 they claim to have addressed it. Its coming up this month. Its performance in the upcoming 2.5.x kernels is tops. for 2.4.21 the performance goes great with rc6-acX patches. This fs is generally recommended by most. For websites and servers its the best. As for JFS and XFS: JFS is a unique fs in the fact that you can recover data from JFS in case of a really bad crash by mounting it as ext2 ! Its a fs from IBM and is quite under development. Its performance is good but lower than Reiserfs. XFS is best avoided at present because of its unstability. There have been reports of data corruption in case of crashes. This fs comes from SGI and promises superb performance for big file sizes. For small sizes this isn't good enough. Now to give you a little conclusion here's what i say : Since most of the binaries, conf. files on a regular linux systems don't go beyond 10mb reiserfs is a really good option. big files are far and few. Here's a little tasty trick for rh 9.0. while installing rh doesn't present reiserfs in disk druid. So when you boot type "linux reiserfs" instead of pressing enter and disk druid will list it. :D hope that mumbling of mine made sense ! For figures and facts check this out... http://www.net.oregonstate.edu/~kveton/fs/ i'll try to be a little more organized in my next mail, cya, C ------ cut here for some gnome/kde 8>< --------- gnome is doing fine for me. others i dunno. thankyou. I have very good reasons to say that kde is slow even with the latest gcc. Slower than gnome. If there's some special way i could compile kde for faster performance please let me know. And no its not a myth that i am spreading. I could definitely mail the KDE list as you say. Buts thats a little way off track. As they stand now they are slow given their own instructions for compiling and performance improvement. what a distro includes or excludes is the distro's decision. not others, tho it is the distro's responsibility to respond to the users which Redhat does quite well. and if a user doesn't agree he/she is free enough to change it or ditch the distro. > >IceWM! IceWM! Its the coolest one. > ?? >Google! Google! Its the coolest one :-) frankly gnome/gtk works for me and am happy. Others did not after having given them a fair trial on my part. End of discussion. >BTW are you sure Abiword and OO.o are Gnome apps? I never said they were. They use gtk for the "final rendering" as you say and not qt. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Apache module on OSX
by Satya 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

mod_auth_any works on Linux but not on OSX. apxs i -c, and then apachectl: Syntax error on line 271 of /etc/httpd/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/libexec/httpd/mod_auth_any.so into server: (reason unknown) Any ideas? Line 271 is: LoadModule auth_any_module /usr/libexec/httpd/mod_auth_any.so Relevant screen dumps: [root]~/mod_auth_any/src# uname -a Darwin macserver 6.6 Darwin Kernel Version 6.6: Thu May 1 21:48:54 PDT 2003; root:xnu/xnu-344.34.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc [root]~/mod_auth_any/src# httpd -l Compiled-in modules: http_core.c mod_so.c suexec: disabled; invalid wrapper /usr/sbin/suexec [root]~/mod_auth_any/src# httpd -v Server version: Apache/1.3.27 (Darwin) Server built: 01/15/03 19:22:17 [root]~/mod_auth_any/src# httpd -V Server version: Apache/1.3.27 (Darwin) Server built: 01/15/03 19:22:17 Server's Module Magic Number: 19990320:13 Server compiled with.... -D EAPI -D HAVE_MMAP -D USE_MMAP_SCOREBOARD -D USE_MMAP_FILES -D HAVE_FCNTL_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT -D HAVE_FLOCK_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT -D SINGLE_LISTEN_UNSERIALIZED_ACCEPT -D HARD_SERVER_LIMIT=2048 -D HTTPD_ROOT="/usr" -D SUEXEC_BIN="/usr/sbin/suexec" -D DEFAULT_PIDLOG="/var/run/httpd.pid" -D DEFAULT_SCOREBOARD="/var/run/httpd.scoreboard" -D DEFAULT_LOCKFILE="/var/run/httpd.lock" -D DEFAULT_ERRORLOG="/var/log/httpd/error_log" -D TYPES_CONFIG_FILE="/etc/httpd/mime.types" -D SERVER_CONFIG_FILE="/etc/httpd/httpd.conf" -D ACCESS_CONFIG_FILE="/etc/httpd/access.conf" -D RESOURCE_CONFIG_FILE="/etc/httpd/srm.conf" And google is very unhelpful. -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> 'Press to test.' <click> 'Release to detonate.'

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anybody home?
by Amit Upadhyay 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hi, am new to this list, but am disappointed to see lack of traffic here.. anyone listening, lets revive it if its possible.. i am running single boot linux on my PC since about two and a half years, and am a great fan of Mandrake distribution. i came across http://dot.kde.org/1053201681/ -> "KDE/Qt Gain Increased Support for Indic Languages", and the screenshots look good. - -- Amit Upadhyay Senior Undergraduate Student Department of Mechanical Engg. Indian Institute of Technology Bombay Mumbai-76, India Phone: (91) 9820325940 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+2864B9EzZHCJyNkRAu52AJ43VtRKf1cPYOe+cAoCxhbHUYNHnQCeMbiR 2Y87AktphQ81AEdfDmWIpSo= =7e4Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] gnome/kde ?
by linuxdev 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

hey there, surprise ! kde is nice stable and quite complete on redhat 9.0. What is the statement "kde rpms are privately created" supposed to mean ?! They are available with the official distribution. And as for the argument of "more official". Its not the aim of the site you mentioned. They mean it to be a site for the *latest* kde rpms for those who can't deal with sources. Agreed rh is slow in releasing but that's applicable to even gnome packages! And remote networking, ssh capabilities of a file manager is not exactly a regular guy's dream. I don't envision any normal user going ga-ga over remote editing in a file dialog box given that 80% of the users would save on an internet bill. And regarding your lament of a relatively featureless gnome open file dialog box, its going to be true only till 2.3 after the development plan is shifting aggresively to adding features to widgets. For 2.4 they are specifically addressing the needs of a more powerful dialog box. And frankly if kde developers hate me for using redhat i don't give a damn. Hey rh is times better for any serious developing work/ enterprise env. Besides i recompile most of my packages for p4 for which currently no binary distro is optimized for, by default. So there's no question of missing candy. then again, number of releases *along* with the introduction of new features is something to be reckoned with. Try mailing the nautilus dev list for a feature and you'll probably find it implemented in the next release. Thats what they want right now. feedback. And unless you give them that there's no chance of your favorite gizmo turning up in it. >Its more a c++ "feature" than KDE's. KDE is well >aware of this thing yet there >is little short of improving gcc that can be done >about it. blaming bad implementations on gcc is really uncool. KDE is slow. the developers know it. That they are working on it is a good sign. something that would make me consider KDE in the future. > again memory usage: on rh 9.0 with gnome the usage on immediate startup is > 128 mb. for kde ? 213 mb. eh ? A quick look at system-monitor will tell you > all the story. and my suggestion use gnome-monitor. >Frankly I dont care, I mean I can play DivX movies >while simultaneously downloading them and having 3 >connections on my FTP server downloading from me at >near top speed with KDE running in all its glory, >and I have only 128MB RAM. Stats are for staticians. And for developers. well i do care about free RAM. coz compiling needs plenty of it. thats top priority for me :D besides watching divx movies and file sharing and editing web pages. Ever faced disk thrashing ? On a sidenews : there's this file sharing client out there mldonkey - works for quite a lot of filesharing n/w gnutella, edonkey, fasttrack (yeah!), bittorrent, directconnect. its really good and fast, check it out. And they use gtk :P And of good reasons of gtk over qt ? m'be you could ask the developers of evolution, gaim, mldonkey, mplayer gui, xmms, gnucash. and many more perfectly useful software that you could shake your stick at. >Anything that is GPL gives equal level of powers to >modify it At what level is the question. I don't expect most users to go patch my software to get it looking the way they want it to. gtk tries to keep the pain to minimum. I don't expect to go on a tweaking trip as soon as i install a desktop. I would like the options sensible enough. Gnome does that. KDE might, i'll leave that question. I may give the newer mandrake a whirl as soon as i get hold of a set. (can you help me there?) Indeed if you have used mozilla firebird you wouldn't say konqueror is better. The only complaint of long startup times for mozilla is being actively worked on will be taken care of in few months. Simple reason: they are moving away from XUL to platform dependent gui. Atleast for the framework. Now what exactly are you missing in gnome toolbar is beyond me. regards, C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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gnome/kde ?
by linuxdev 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

hi, Just as you said its shifting from the platform to the realm of distribution, i can very well state that your experience of KDE is distribution dependent. And well talking of my distro its RH 9.0 with a nice stable complete gnome/kde distribution. If you wanted screenshots I could send you plenty. But well the question comes of posting them. I don't really like the idea of posting them on a list. And about there's lot more going on in KDE is quite not the case. If you checked the release schedules of gnome and all the gtk based software i'd say gnome is far more active ;) Both the desktops have been releasing neck to neck. As far as memory usage, startup times is concerned i can say a trifle unscientifically that gnome starts about 5-6 seconds faster than kde. Then again memory usage: on rh 9.0 with gnome the usage on immediate startup is 128 mb. for kde ? 213 mb. eh ? A quick look at system-monitor will tell you all the story. and my suggestion use gnome-monitor. i don't think its right to call the decision of selecting gtk over kde for programming as legacy. Even the latest and the finest software that turns out today on freshmeat.net is gtk based. While there is a wide difference in the philosophies of these two toolkits both have very stable and viable reasoning behind them. On a general principle developers prefer gtk for its "lightness" and simplicity with enough power to modify it. The visual clutter that i referred to is not due to bad distro. I wouldn't go so far as to call debian-sid,rh9.0,knoppix3.2 as bad distros. The visual distraction is what the gnome developers trying to fight. Agreed there are many sharp edges to gtk but they are rapidly being addressed by the developers. That is what exactly the lead developer for gnome recently gave a call for. What software you prefer is matter of personal taste. I prefer mozilla for my surfing and mail. I dislike konquerer for too many reasons that i do not care to list here for the sake of sanity. There are far too many non-default softwares that work n-times better than the default softies of kde or gnome. And if you are talking of startup times etc. gnome beats the pants off kde anytime. U definitely don't need me to give quanitative comparisons for that ? I don't know what customization you are talking of but its equally easy to customize a gnome toolbar/desktop ! Its all a matter of personal taste,familiarity and as far as mine goes i love speed, neatness and min. of visual clutter. gnome fits the bill. I was a lover of kde till rh 8.1(psyche) until rh 9.0 came along. Its no going back now for me. The choice is yours buddy, thats what linux about ~! later, C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Mr. Kalam Thrashes Proprietary Software
by Pranav Joshi 03 Jun '03

03 Jun '03

"The most unfortunate thing is that India still seems to believe in proprietary solutions," President Kalam. Read the whole article to know what our president has to say about Free/Prop software. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/30991.html Pranav ===== I bless your computer, my child! ------------------------- Saint IGNUcius. ------------------------- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Indic fonts
by linuxdev 03 Jun '03

03 Jun '03

my opinion about the pathetic indic support in software in general is lack of gov. initiative in this regard. Sorry if i sound whiny here :D In China they made it a gov. agenda to get the lang. on to softwares. They dared microsoft to enter without chinese language support. As of today they have put all the top univs, softw. companies in china to work on complete chinese version of linux - red flag. I am really waiting for that to happen here. Just one or two developers can't do this. Its lot of work and requires a lot of resources and brains. Agreedly as jt says its dependent on market size too. But thats only the initiative for software business wanting to setup a shop. Gov. should definitely have more reasons to do it besides market ? Also if we have one nice uniform api /platform in place businesses would find it easier to adapt their software for it ? This is being worked on in iits AFAIK, i dunno the name of the project but i did read bout it sometime back on an iit page. later, C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Indic fonts
by linuxdev 03 Jun '03

03 Jun '03

Hi everybody, Doesn't the argument of display of fonts seem to be fading with the major work load having shifted to xft in X ?? All the same it makes me wonder why chinese is first supported as international language these days by any software. Devnagri doesn't figure anywhere most of the times. Despite the fact that mandarin script is quite difficult in structure than the devnagri. Some developer of X back then pointed out that it was due to lack of standard in implementation of fonts. There are n things to making fonts and there is a lack of standards for that in indian fonts was the gist. And now talking of GTK vs Qt (again why should it be vs is something that beats me !) i always look at the memory usage and relevance of features. I dunno who made that comment -> "KDE values quality over features" ... but thats actually a characteristic of gtk and not kde/Qt. They actually try to get things neat, secure, clean than kde where the user is first confronted with soo many features to tweak that he/she wishes their original platform were better. Talking of quality i consider memory usage to be one aspect of it too. GTK simply shines there. KDE/Qt has tons of work to do in that section. GTK as it stands now is no way perfect but a viable and an extremely efficient platform for anyone who hates visual clutter (read as eye candy). I haven't tested the upcoming 2.4 gnome but as far as the aims goes they have a surefire winner. There are many points which could be debated as to where GTK shines and where it does not. But as far as application development goes gtk is a preferred choice by most of the apps in linux for gui. i couldn't help popping in when someone simply fires off against gnome or kde without giving it a thought. ;) my next post was supposed to be on my experiences wit h the various filesystems in linux. oh well nevermind. it'll be the next. C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Events / Sessions for exhibition
by MagNet WebPublishing Pvt. Ltd. 03 Jun '03

03 Jun '03

Hi All, We have taken a stall at an upcoming exhibition in Mumbai - 13 to 15 June. As we will be promoting GNU/Linux & related services, we were thinking that we could invite some partners - either on a commercial basis or otherwise. I have got a confirmation from the organizers and they are ready to provide the infrastructure to carry out some presentations as well. We are happy that IndLinux will be there with us on Saturday. We are looking for 2 more projects/organizations we could bring in. If it is a commercial venture, we could work out commercials, and if it is non-profit, we can give the space free. I was thinking if ilug-bom or anybody else wanted to join. Any volunteers for presentations are also welcome. Though the presentations may not be high-profile, we can spread a word about it. Your thoughts / comments / ideas welcome! Regards, Nirav. ====================================================== | MLEP - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP education program | | http://www.mlep.com/ | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | tangible, customized solutions for your e-business | | http://www.magnet-i.com/ | ======================================================

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] hands on workshops for bombayites............NY TAKERS???
by joel_divekar 03 Jun '03

03 Jun '03

Hi Guys That would be great. Please count me in. Regards Joel "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" wrote: Hey Luggers!!!! Do we have any takers for the same. Its time for some action and all of us would be glad to have as many as possible on board. Lets start with a small Open Event for Enterprises-Indivizuals and then migrate from there. Trevor On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 09:55, Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 07:49:56AM +0530, Trevor Warren wrote: > > > Its been a really long time since we did some real open workshops for > > bombayites. > > > > What say???. Am all for getting this on the road. > > Count me in! > > Sameer. -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor(a)clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/ -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now !

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[COMMERCIAL] Training in Qt
by Aseem Rane 02 Jun '03

02 Jun '03

Hi friends, Does any institution/individual offers formal training on Qt (3.1.2) in Mumbai. I am looking for a ~3 days fulltime workshop. I am interested in * Qt Signal/Slots Mechanism * Having Qt and Motif widgets in the same form interacting with each other. * Internationalization * Building custom widgets/plugins * Drag-Drop functionality (Different Mime Types) * Qt designer * Debugging etc.... Apart Qt Referance Documentation, Is there any other material/books which are recomended for serious development in Qt? Regards Aseem -- Aseem Rane Sr. Software Engineer, L&T Infotech Ltd. Powai.

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Events / Sessions for exhibition
by MagNet WebPublishing Pvt. Ltd. 02 Jun '03

02 Jun '03

Hi All, We have taken a stall at an upcoming exhibition in Mumbai - 13 to 15 June. As we will be promoting GNU/Linux & related services, we were thinking that we could invite some partners - either on a commercial basis or otherwise. I have got a confirmation from the organizers and they are ready to provide the infrastructure to carry out some presentations as well. We are happy that IndLinux will be there with us on Saturday. We are looking for 2 more projects/organizations we could bring in. If it is a commercial venture, we could work out commercials, and if it is non-profit, we can give the space free. I was thinking if ilug-bom or anybody else wanted to join. Any volunteers for presentations are also welcome. Though the presentations may not be high-profile, we can spread a word about it. Your thoughts / comments / ideas welcome! Regards, Nirav. ====================================================== | MLEP - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP education program | | http://www.mlep.com/ | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | tangible, customized solutions for your e-business | | http://www.magnet-i.com/ | ======================================================

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Events / Sessions for exhibition
by MagNet WebPublishing Pvt. Ltd. 02 Jun '03

02 Jun '03

Hi All, We have taken a stall at an upcoming exhibition in Mumbai - 13 to 15 June. As we will be promoting GNU/Linux & related services, we were thinking that we could invite some partners - either on a commercial basis or otherwise. I have got a confirmation from the organizers and they are ready to provide the infrastructure to carry out some presentations as well. We are happy that IndLinux will be there with us on Saturday. We are looking for 2 more projects/organizations we could bring in. If it is a commercial venture, we could work out commercials, and if it is non-profit, we can give the space free. I was thinking if ilug-bom or anybody else wanted to join. Any volunteers for presentations are also welcome. Though the presentations may not be high-profile, we can spread a word about it. Your thoughts / comments / ideas welcome! Regards, Nirav. ====================================================== | MLEP - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP education program | | http://www.mlep.com/ | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | tangible, customized solutions for your e-business | | http://www.magnet-i.com/ | ======================================================

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Kernel 2.5.70 problems
by Nikhil Joshi 01 Jun '03

01 Jun '03

Hi! I got curious after reading linuxdev's mail regarding kernel 2.5.70 and installed it. I followed the ususal procedure. However my mouse is not working now. I've compiled the support for mouse into the kernel itself: CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL=y gpm gives message: /dev/mouse: Connection refused (where /dev/mouse is symlink to /dev/cua0. This works on my 2.4 kernel) I've also compiled modules for my sound card, which also doesnt work. #lsmod gives blank output. I've updated modutils to the latest version (0.9.12) Is this the result of beta version of kernel or have i missed something? Please guide. -- Nikhil Joshi http://nikhiljoshi.cjb.net

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[para-OT ;)] Need Debian "Sid"
by nemo＠phoenixsoftech.com 01 Jun '03

01 Jun '03

Hi all, I would like to know where I can get Debian "Sid" unstable CDs. If anyone in Mumbai has them I will pay for the copies. Nemo

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