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by satyajit balkrishna saste 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

We have set up a netwk of 2 comps in linux.They are able to ping each other.We are however unable to share each others files using NFS.The Kernel version is 2.4.2-2 and it Red Hat based PCQ Linux. Plz echo me as soon as possible. -Satyajit Saste

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knowing the list of loaded modules.
by akshaysalkar 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

does any 1 know where are the list of all the compiled modules stored?? that is i would like to know all the modules and kernel modules that have been loaded or been made moduler? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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fetchmail
by Atul Kumar 01 Aug '02

01 Aug '02

Greetings, i am Atul from India. I need some help on multidrop mailing with fetchmail using sendmail. My ISP will collect the mails for my domain. a single pop3 account is given. single pop account will collect all the mails (intended to different users). i need to pull these and distribute to the local users. thnx in adavnce regards atul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com

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openssh 3.4p1 advisory
by Philip S Tellis 01 Aug '02

01 Aug '02

The openssh sources from ftp.openbsd.org have been trojaned. if you've upgraded recently, go read the link. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=394609+0+current/freebsd-secur… Philip -- Unix is the worst operating system; except for all others. -- Berry Kercheval

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(no subject)
by Jaishankar Krishnan Iyer 01 Aug '02

01 Aug '02

Hi, Try and edit your /etc/inetd.conf file . Search for the imap and pop2 file and insert .120 so the final file looks as follows: pop-3 stream tcp nowait.120 root /usr/sbin/tcpd ipop3d imap stream tcp nowait.120 root /usr/sbin/tcpd imapd Restart inetd with /etc/rc.d/init.d/inet restart. This is to increase the default POP hits to 120 hits per sec for high load email servers. This helped us to resolve the same issue with redhat 6.2 in our office. Let us know if it helped. Jaishankar ****************** On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 12:15, Hiten Desai wrote: >Hi! > >I have to reload >inet service more than >4 times a day to keep >imap functionality >I m using uw imap and >sendmail on redhat 6.2 >dont know where is the problem >is it in imap ?? >or something else >please help > > >Hiten. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Health

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pppd: not replacing existing default route to eth0
by akshaysalkar 01 Aug '02

01 Aug '02

pppd: not replacing existing default route to eth0 does any know know what this means? i noticed this is the var/log/messages when connecting via dial-up this message comes when my local network is working. however when i disable it ie. my network cards eth0 etc. then my network link works fine. so what could be the problem? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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[offtopic] books for sale
by akshaysalkar 01 Aug '02

01 Aug '02

Does any 1 want Computer/Linux Books at a discounted rate (ie. 25% approx. off the normal price) Books in good condition. Some books are brand new. (Costs after Discount) 1) Data Structures using C & C++ - Tanenbaum - Rs. 150 - PH 2) Teach yourself HTML4 in 24 hours - Oliver/Holshwag Rs. 80 - Techmedia 3) Mastering Foxpro 2.5 Special Edition - Siegel - Rs. 225 - BPB 4) Design of the Unix OS - Maurice Bach - Rs. 150 - PH 5) ObjectOriented Software Engineering - Haladay - Rs. 150 6) Teach yourself UML in 24 hours - Schmuler - Rs. 113 7) Java Software Solutions - Lewis - Rs. 260 8) Understanding Pointers in C - Kanetkar - Rs. 113 9) Write TSR's now - Ras - Rs. 75 10) Problems in General Physics - Irodov - Rs. 113 anybody wanting any of the above books plz. contact me at email : akshaysalkar(a)indiatimes.com or telephone on 2052404. (plz. leave msg./name/telephone if i am not there) akshay. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to block junk mails at Server level
by acharya＠dacafe.com 31 Jul '02

31 Jul '02

Hi Actully there's a software trend which has a Plug in called E manager. We use it for our setup. if u want more info pls contact Crystal Solutions. phone no. 5953112. acharya _____________________________________________________________

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uw imap problem
by Hiten Desai 31 Jul '02

31 Jul '02

Hi! I have to reload inet service more than 4 times a day to keep imap functionality I m using uw imap and sendmail on redhat 6.2 dont know where is the problem is it in imap ?? or something else please help Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com

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Intel motherboard BIOS upgrade causing GRUB failure on RedHat 7.3 Linux boot
by B. J. Ram Rao 31 Jul '02

31 Jul '02

I built a desktop using the Intel D850MV motherboard with a Pentium 4/1.60 GHz CPU and 256MB RDRAM (4 x 64MB/PC600 RIMM cards). The desktop board came with BIOS version P05 (MV85010A.86A.0011.P05.0111141737) preinstalled. I installed two Seagate ST340810A 40-GB hard drives. The primary master drive had a Windows 95 (LBA) partition for Windows Me, and the primary slave drive was partitioned into 10GB EXT3 for Linux and 30GB for Windows Me. The bootloader was GRUB 0.91, for switching between a RedHat 7.3 boot and a Windows Me boot. Everything (RedHat 7.3 and Windows Me)worked perfectly.

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Sign up
by Himanshu Shukla 31 Jul '02

31 Jul '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The sign up page is up (http://www.thefreespeech.org/collaborate/). Its working all right, but I am not exactly happy with it. 1. The short id is mandatory, and has to be exactly 6 chars. I have not made any provisions to check for it. Need to do it asap. 2. the php code is not really neatly written. 3. I dunno if there are any bugs in this (security or otherwise). Could someone please go through the code and just help me with modifications. I must admit that this is the first time I played with php + mysql. However, till then, you could sign up guys..it does the job all right! - -- Regards, | Cybertech Networks Pvt. Ltd. | email: himanshu(a)cnpl.co.in Himanshu | Web: http://www.cnpl.co.in | - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ iEYEARECAAYFAj1GHFYACgkQU1ohqIKr1nMoZACdHAFhOQ5tlSCd2h06HwCk/gLa ObYAn0RshzKNJXa4ejXCbgz1eNhhWNyo =FyxQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Mouse Cursor Color
by Sachin 30 Jul '02

30 Jul '02

hi there, i want to change the color of mouse cursor in X (which genrally black) do any body have a clue or done it before then plz help me out in the matter. i have tried to search on google but it did not help me alot [ there are some other lib which did not worked for me] thax in advance sachin -- ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= sachin(a)mediaibc.com MediaIBC ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= Anger is momentary madness. -- Horace ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=

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[Fsf-Friends] GLUE CD revised
by Nagarjuna G. 30 Jul '02

30 Jul '02

----- Forwarded message from Arun M <arun(a)freedevelopers.net> ----- FWD message from Mr Ajith, ---- From: Ajith Kumar <ajith(a)nsc.ernet.in> To: fsf-friends(a)gnu.org.in, ajith(a)nsc.ernet.in Subject: GLUE CD revised Date: 30 Jul 2002 11:03:10 +0530 Hello, I would like to announce the availability of GNU Linux Utilities for Education , GLUE, CDROM. You can browse the CD and install packages from it. Compilers for logo, basic, pascal etc are include. Lot of tutorials on various topics. Graphics Programming on GNU/Linux for the "Turbo C" fellows. The new version includes an installation script and does the following 1. Converts the GNU/Linux installed machine to a Terminal Server. Installation and configuration of LTS is done by the script. If the terminal video cards are autodetected by XFree86-4 , they just boot from the ether-boot floppy created. (tested on redhat 7.1 & 7.3 ) 2. Installs and configures IceWM ( a fast , flexible window manager ideal for terminal servers) and puts a menu tailored for school use. 3. Installs other RPM & TGZ packages from CD Anybody interested in getting a copy may contact Free Software User Group Calicut ( fsug(a)rediffmail.com) or me Other contacts: Rajeesh P., Calicut, (Ph. 355415) ajith _______________________________________________ Fsf-friends mailing list Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends ----- End forwarded message ----- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ nagarjun(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/gn/ Key fingerprint = C1E2 1B8C 8E98 A697 68B7 ADAC E956 6D4B DE90 BF01

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How to block junk mails at Server level
by Jaishankar Krishnan Iyer 30 Jul '02

30 Jul '02

Hi Guys, Our linux RedHat 6.2 Email Server runs sendmail with qpopper and Drac perfectly. The system also run RAV Antivirus good enough to clean all virus at server level. After setting up DRAC we could minimise the spammers to a larger extend. Now the issue is users do receive lots of junk mails with promotional offers/ads etc which we would like to block at server level itself. Setting filters in procmail has really not Any pointer to commercial softwares or any other method to achieve this would be appreciated. Thanks and Regards jaishankar

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thefreespeech.org - Sign up page almost ready
by Himanshu Shukla 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, The signup page for the PRC & the forum is almost ready. Basically, people will be able to sign up for a login, either as a mentor or a student, which will be entered into respective phprojekt database tables. They may then use the userid to login to the groupware, or use the forum (no more guest logins!!). Hopefully, it'll be up by tomorrow. - -- Regards, | http://www.thefreespeech.org |Cybertech Networks Pvt. Ltd. | email: himanshu(a)cnpl.co.in Himanshu | Web: http://www.cnpl.co.in | - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ iEYEARECAAYFAj1FAikACgkQU1ohqIKr1nO4bQCffaLTNDMaeX1RSjMAv5whE7MR 1JQAoNZ/99H+/2MJv2NNWSbU64f3NCU9 =gzr3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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piping sendmail log to mySql ??
by Poonam P 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

Hello, I need to pipe sendmail log to MySql. How can I achieve this... Suggestions and pointers pls. Thanks poonam ________________________________________________________________________ Want to sell your car? advertise on Yahoo Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! visit http://in.autos.yahoo.com

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COMMERCIAL: Network & Support Enggs, System Admins wanted
by Himanshu Shukla 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

Cybertech Networks is an IT consulting & software development company providing hosting, messaging, enterprise software solutions. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Network Engineer (Maharashtra - Thane) Responsibilities: To develop products/services on the linux platform. To provide onsite/telephonic/email to customers. To provide hardware/software related support to internal customers. To provide pre-sales / post-sales support to customers. Requirements: Should possess atleast 1 year of relevant experience. Extensive knowledge of Unix/Linux operating systems. Knowledge of TCP/IP & Networking- Strong Shell / Perl Scripting Skills. Extensive knowledge Of Sendmail / Qmail / Fetchmail / Squid / Iptables / Courier IMAP / Jabber / OpenLDAP / Apache/Bind- OS Kernel experience- System administration experience. Excellent communication skills. Strong verbal, written and organizational skills. Applicants must be willing to work in Thane. Please contact Mr. Allan Lewis off the list at allan(a)cnpl.co.in.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Qmail + LDAP + distributed architecture
by Himanshu Shukla 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, kishor bhagwat wrote: > hi folks, > We need to deploy a qmail with LDAP for address book and > authentication at several of our offices spread over the > country. > We'll be putting one central server at our data center, > with an anti virus gateway for it.So its a hub-n-spoke > kinda architecture.All mails to-n-fro the Internet will > pass thru this central server. > some issues that i'd like help with: > > 1)i need a single domain ( company.com) to be hosted across > these multiple mail servers > No problems - In ~control/me, enter the particular location's host name. Example, If in Mumbai, enter mum.yourdomain.com, and in locals / rcpthosts for all machines, enter yourdomain.com. In addition, all locations' host names should be entered in locals and rcpthosts (this will be needed for what you intend to do) > 2)Intra-office mail, i.e mail from an user to another user > in the same office should be delivered locally. Use ldap replication and the mailHost attribute - Let mum.yourdomain.com be the central Master LDAP server, and let all other locations be slaves. If you add any entry at any of the slaves, they shld be replicated at all slaves via the master. Use the mailHost attribute to specify that user's mailbox location. Mails will get delivered locally for local mailboxes, through QMQP for <yourdomain> users who are not local, and others will get delivered through normail Qmail procedures. > > 3)Mail for remote user i.e.one situated at another location > should be routed to that location's mail server, but > through the central anti-virus gateway. IMHO, this is not possible if you are using Qmail-LDAP. I wld say that the above procedure is the best method. IF you still wnat to do it this way, this could be the architecture. Apart from the central server, none of the machines run LDAP, but all of them have the QMQP service running. Run two Qmail services at all locations - the second only with QMQP. The only file in the second Qmail's control file would be smtproutes, which would have the entry of your central server. The main Qmail's .qmail-default file would contain something like: | /var/qmail2/bin/forward "$EXT(a)yourdomain.com" So all mails for "anyone(a)yourdomain.com" not found locally would be delivered to the central mail server through QMQP. Here using the mailHost attribute, Qmail would deliver the mails to the appropriate location. > > 4) All users have a common web interface for changing > passwords hack Horde IMP. > > 5)In case of qmail,how can i have some accounts on the > local server and then instruct the server to send mails to > some other user but belonging to the same domain to some > other smtp sever.. this without LDAP.... > i.e user1(a)company.com wants to mail user2(a)company.com > but user1 and user2 are on diff machines .. LDAP is not > involved in the picture > i want mails to go thru a central mail server!!!! Just mentioned this architecture in 3. > > I guess this might sound a little confusing, but i'm sure > most of ya guys will get it! Not at all - the most common scenario in corporates, but thanks to Qmail-LDAP, the solution is just about perfect, and simple - Just 1 catch though, it helps if all your locations are connected permanently. - -- Regards, | www.thefreespeech.org | Cybertech Networks Pvt. Ltd. | | email: himanshu(a)cnpl.co.in Himanshu | Web: http://www.cnpl.co.in | - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ iEYEARECAAYFAj1E1+kACgkQU1ohqIKr1nPg+gCgonoQ3rbfehS0wYttIKp7Soi4 P/wAoIboA5f2ckbPlDMCPbtl+tM607Wq =LtZ2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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commercial: job for open source people
by Deepen Vinod Dhulla 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

hi, I work for one comming up linux company in vashi, Navi Mumbai, India, I am looking out for people who are expert and best in perl,cgi mysql and php programming and can joing the team to bring linux in more user-friendly in User ans system Administration. I am also looking out for people who are good in linux cirtis and have broad vision about linux in india. Who can joing our team to bring linux in Indian IT Business or think and work out for marketing Linux based solution in India. one can contact me at deepen(a)technoinfosys.com or visit my company website : http://www.technoinfosys.com Let bring Linux to each corner of India. Regards Deepen Dhulla http://www.deependhulla.com deepen(a)technoinfosys.com

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Shutdown error
by Sameer Shinde 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

Hi all, When I halt the system, I get the following error message. General Protection fault : f000 CPU : 0 ; EIP : 0050[<00008881>] EFLAGS : 00010046 & lot more combination of 0s & 1. with last line, /etc/rc0.d/s01halt : line1 : 2192 Segmentation fault halt -i -d -p Why is this coming ? How to remove it? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Messenger IDs : MSN : s2sameer Yahoo! : s9sameer RediffBol : s2sameer Indiatimes : s2sameer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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[2] Error while transfering install image on HDD- Out of disk space
by Sameer Shinde 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

Hi All, The problem continues here...... On the 2nd day, the system hanged twice ( in 2 tries) I needed to hardboot these times. On the 3rd try I get the message like: "An error occured while transfering the install image to your hard disk. You are probably out of disk space." this sends me back where the installation starts. [ Read the message carefully, as I mention above, I had kept around 3.7 GB for / & the total package size was around 1.5GB ] once again I tried to install, but again I got the same message. so I decided to make a clean installation & moved back by pressing back button. When I reached to partitioning part of the installation, I got the message..... " The partition table on device hda is carrupted. To create new partitions it must be initialized causing the loss of ALL DATA on this drvie" This was along with 2 options [ initialize ] [ skip Drive ] Naturally, I skiped the Drive b'coz I do not wanted to loose all my data which is in windows. This gives me another message, " an error has occured - no valid devices were found on which to create new file system. Plz check your hardware for the cause of this problem. Pressing [OK ] leads me to another message, " An exceptional condition has occured. This is most likely a bug. Plz copy the full txt of this exception & file a bug report at http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzila" [ I have a copy of the bug with me & not attached here, if anybody want it I can send it to them. ] ${ Do I need to remove all the partitions, (including windows partition which I don't want to be,b'coz of my data) to initialize the disk & re-define the partition table

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Qmail + LDAP + distributed architecture
by kishor bhagwat 27 Jul '02

27 Jul '02

hi folks, We need to deploy a qmail with LDAP for address book and authentication at several of our offices spread over the country. We'll be putting one central server at our data center, with an anti virus gateway for it.So its a hub-n-spoke kinda architecture.All mails to-n-fro the Internet will pass thru this central server. some issues that i'd like help with: 1)i need a single domain ( company.com) to be hosted across these multiple mail servers 2)Intra-office mail, i.e mail from an user to another user in the same office should be delivered locally. 3)Mail for remote user i.e.one situated at another location should be routed to that location's mail server, but through the central anti-virus gateway. 4) All users have a common web interface for changing passwords 5)In case of qmail,how can i have some accounts on the local server and then instruct the server to send mails to some other user but belonging to the same domain to some other smtp sever.. this without LDAP.... i.e user1(a)company.com wants to mail user2(a)company.com but user1 and user2 are on diff machines .. LDAP is not involved in the picture i want mails to go thru a central mail server!!!! I guess this might sound a little confusing, but i'm sure most of ya guys will get it! any help appreciated! regards, kishor __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com

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PRC - Mentors and Students resposnibilities
by Shankar Ramchandran 27 Jul '02

27 Jul '02

We need to define a procedure for signing up for a project and Mentor- Student responsibilities. I have the few suggestions.. The mentor is required to bring in domain knowledge to the project. The mentor will decide the scope of the project. [in consultation with students based on project requirements etc] The mentor is involved in an advisory and guiding position in all phases of the project [planning, design, coding, testing, documentation etc] Mentor may choose to perform part of the coding or he may not. Students will be involved in all phases of the project and should commit in principle to stick to the end of the project. Mentor may choose to request some one for independant quality assessment...[at least for non corporate projects] More questions we need to find answers to: If mentors for a project are decided merely on volunteer basis, then we need functionality to support a wish list. where someone not qualified or not having enough time to be a mentor can put up a project that someone takes up as a mentor. Will the mentor decide how big a team is required...& will we have projects that students cannot sign up for? How will a student sign up? [ i guess we need to create a page for that] - Shankar

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view total phys. mem.
by Manish Jethani 26 Jul '02

26 Jul '02

How can I view the total amount of physical memory, say 256m, available to the system. free(1) shows 250m on my system where I have 256m total. Manish

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tomcat woes - Does not load (?) servlets.
by Himanshu Shukla 26 Jul '02

26 Jul '02

On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Dinesh Shah wrote: > The example servlets which came with the tomcat is running fine. > > I want to enable servlets in my "DocumentRoot" > My servlets are in "/home/httpd/htdocs/servlet/WEB-INF/classes" > I had similar problems, and had followed similar steps, with an identical configuration file. I am sorry, I don't exactly remember the procedure, but I know where I found the answer. I searched on http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-user I followed the exact procedure listed in one of the message bodies. Hope it helps. -- Regards, | Cybertech Networks Pvt. Ltd. | email: himanshu(a)cnpl.co.in Himanshu | Web: http://www.cnpl.co.in | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] phpgroupware... is greek to us
by Himanshu Shukla 26 Jul '02

26 Jul '02

On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Trevor Warren wrote: > > --- Gurpreet Singh <tonysingh(a)rediffmail.com> wrote: > > hello > > it is really good that u guys have set up the php > > groupware > [snip] > neh...not groupware. phprojekt....guess that watz it > was. Right, it is "PHProjekt" (www.phprojekt.com ?) > > i visited the link and logged in as "test". every > > thing up there > > was like greek to me. i didnt understand how to use > > it and how wud > > it be helpful to us... > [snip] > hmmm....;) > Himanshu....guess we need to get some work done with > the login/Signup for Student-Mentor pages 2. I guess so...i even put this up on the list, asking everyone abt what the next step could be. Well, php is not exactly greek to me, as far as reading code goes, but I would rather request someone to write such an automatic sign up page for students and mentors. > > > > so plz help guys... > > and how abt adding some help pages on the site, coz > > many ppl like > > me will have such probs. just add a link for help > > and a few tips > > on how to go abt things Hold on...I think it already has some wonderful help pages. For example, if you think you can't understand what the "Votes" on the right hand side means, just click on "vote" and you'll find a new help window explaining what it is all about. The only problem is figuring out which links are actually help pages ;) OK..may b we could write a small help doc on an intro, and how to go about using phprojekt. -- Regards, | Cybertech Networks Pvt. Ltd. | email: himanshu(a)cnpl.co.in Himanshu | Web: http://www.cnpl.co.in | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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GNOWSYS Development version released
by Nagarjuna G. 26 Jul '02

26 Jul '02

A development version of GNOWSYS-0.1-1 is released at http://www.zope.org/Members/nagarjuna/GNOWSYS. GNOWSYS, Gnowledge Networking and Organizing System, is a web application for developing and maintaining semantic web content developed in Python and works as an installed product in ZOPE. The application provides generic classes, viz. object, object type, association, association type, facet, facet type, occurance, occurance type, theme, scope, etc., for developing semantic web content. For those who are aware, the application follows the structure of TopicMaps (http://www.topicmaps.org). It is intended to develop as a powerful prototype application demonstrating the potential of an expert system within the paradigm+of object oriented database technology. Presently it cannot import/export the content in the form of XTM (XML Topic Maps) standard, but this feature is being developed. The application can be used for web based knowledge representation and management projects, for developing structured knowledge bases, as a collaborative authoring tool, suitable for making electronic glossaries, dictionaries and encyclopedias, for managing large web sites or links, developing an online catalogue for a library of any thing including books, to make ontologies, classifying and networking any objects etc. This tool is intended to be used also for an on-line tutoring system with dependency management system between various concepts. It also contains a facility to add rules into its rule base, and execute the rules. Once completely implemented this feature will make the product really powerful, for it can infer and make new relations. Though a prototype of rule base already exists in the developing version, more elegant implementation is being worked out. GNOSYS is a free software, released under GPL. Project website will be managed from http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnosys Sample applications that are developed using GNOWSYS will be available at http://www.gnowledge.org/, which is a site under development. You can download from the Zope site: http://www.zope.org/Members/nagarjuna/GNOWSYS This product depends on another Zope Product, Transparent Folders. Nagarjuna

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #559 - 3 msgs
by Jaideep Tejprakash Varma 26 Jul '02

26 Jul '02

I have RH 7.2 and squid Installed to proxy net requests. i have a Multitech 128 ISDN (External) TA, which i have configure it on linux on com1 port. Can some 1 please help me how to use the second chanel of the TA ? I also have problem with ftp & https not getting accessed form any of the stations please guide me JAideep

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phpgroupware... is greek to us
by Gurpreet Singh 26 Jul '02

26 Jul '02

hello it is really good that u guys have set up the php groupware and the PRC is now finally up and running, but dear dont mind this... i visited the link and logged in as "test". every thing up there was like greek to me. i didnt understand how to use it and how wud it be helpful to us... so plz help guys... and how abt adding some help pages on the site, coz many ppl like me will have such probs. just add a link for help and a few tips on how to go abt things thx Gurpreet

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Tomcat woes - Does not load (?) servlets.
by Dinesh Shah 25 Jul '02

25 Jul '02

Hi All, I have problem with configuring Tomcat. Please help. Linux - RedHat 7.2 kernel 2.4.7 Java - 1.4.0 (j2sdk-1.4.0) (/usr/java) Tomcat - jakarta-tomcat-4.0.3 (compiled from source) Tomcat installed in "/usr/tomcat" port 8080 The example servlets which came with the tomcat is running fine. I want to enable servlets in my "DocumentRoot" My servlets are in "/home/httpd/htdocs/servlet/WEB-INF/classes" My Tomcat server.xml contains - <Context path="/servlet" docBase="/home/httpd/htdocs/servlet" debug="9" reloadable="true" > <Logger className="org.apache.catalina.logger.FileLogger" prefix="localhost_servlet_log." suffix=".txt" timestamp="true"/> My .../servlet/WEB-INF/web.xml contains - <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?> <!DOCTYPE web-app PUBLIC "-//Sun Microsystems, Inc.//DTD Web Application 2.3//EN" "http://java.sun.com/dtd/web-app_2_3.dtd"> <web-app> <servlet> <servlet-name>Hello</servlet-name> <servlet-class>Hello</servlet-class> </servlet> <servlet> <servlet-name>HelloWorldExample</servlet-name> <servlet-class>HelloWorldExample</servlet-class> </servlet> </web-app> The context "servlet" loads OK. (I can see the context running in manager) When I load http://192.168.1.100:8080/servlet/Hello OR http://192.168.1.100:8080/servlet/HelloWorldExample (taken from example dir of Tomcat) It gives me "404 resource not available." I also have difficulty compiling and installing mod_jk in apache (1.3.26) All help and pointers will be greatly appreciated. TIA for your help With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System dinesh(a)indiamail.com http://dineshah.tripod.com Mobile: 98213-11906

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[off-topic] The End of the Road ( LWN.net )
by pm＠linuxindia.org 25 Jul '02

25 Jul '02

Guys, Check this article out : http://www.lwn.net/Articles/5052/ LWN.net is closing down. AUgust 1st 2002, is the last LWN Release. :( regards, pmehta -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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sis 6215 on slackware
by upendra gandhi 25 Jul '02

25 Jul '02

hi men all i want is my 2mb cheap one sis 6215c to work with slackware 8.1 how is it possible can any body goru help me on guru poornima day ok bye ===== upendra gandhi http://home.graffiti.net/upengan78 upengan78(a)hotmail.com upengan78(a)linuxfreemail.com upengan78(a)epatra.com upengan78(a)graffiti.net upengan1978(a)netscape.net upengan78(a)fuckmicrosoft.com upengan78(a)windows-sucks.com upengan78(a)fuckwindows.com upengan78(a)rediffmail.com "How the fuck did you work that out?" Pythagoras __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Taking a snap shot of the window of a program
by Amol Hatwar 24 Jul '02

24 Jul '02

On Sat, 20 Jul 2002 Vikas Madhavan Alathur wrote : > > I have written a program explaining the concept of Fourier >series > > graphically using the Mesa library. The program runs in full >screen > > mode. Now I want to take a snap shot of one of its screens and >get a > > PNG image of the same. How do I get it ? > >If you have KDE installed, use ksnapshot. > I am not aware of any tools that do this except in X. However, you can always throw your own code in-that is if you have the time and need to expirement. You will need to first capture the video memory as a bitmap and use the libraries for converting it to PNG. I assume libpng has such facilities. Thanks, -ah

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MIT scheme
by abhijeet 24 Jul '02

24 Jul '02

Hi, Does anybody on the list have MIT scheme by any chance?? I happen to be on the Wizard Book currently and would like to have some implementation of Scheme....there's guile, but it doesn't have an interface to emacs. The tarball is something like 16MB which is too large for a dial up connection. thanks abhijeet

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Taking a snap shot of the window of a program
by Abhir Joshi 24 Jul '02

24 Jul '02

Hi I have written a program explaining the concept of Fourier series graphically using the Mesa library. The program runs in full screen mode. Now I want to take a snap shot of one of its screens and get a PNG image of the same. How do I get it ? TIA Abhir

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #558 - 8 msgs
by Jaishankar Krishnan Iyer 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

Hi, The problem is still presisting. I did try all the options mentioned below. I do have the hard disk still with me. Would any body like to suggest something more to that. Rgds Jaishankar > 3. Re: Does not allow login even with Su on Redhat 6.2 box >(Tapeshwar Nath) >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better >--0-434438189-1027319511=:37264 >Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > >Hey i think your init process is getting respawned ,, hmm well >the reason may be your /etc/passwd file might have got >corrupted. >U can go in Single user mode and copy /etc/passwd.Old to >/etc/passwd and then i think it should allow u to login. >Let me know if this worked. >Tapesh >.......................................ENJOY >LINUX.................. > Philip S Tellis ><PHILIP(a)KONARK.NCST.ERNET.IN>wrote: ><BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; >BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">On 19 Jul 2002, Jaishankar >Krishnan Iyer wrote: > The box did NOT run any firewall >etc. The next day what we found > was, it would NOT allow us >to login at all. > At the login prompt , when one tried to >login as any user or even > "su" it would just jump back to >login prompt. did you try to login as su or as >root? > Could i get some hint as to which are the likely >files which i could > look into which could cause this >problem. This would help us further > in the penetration test >which we are conducting. have a look at your pam.d/* >files. also, by removing some groups, you may have disabled >logins. You'll have to experiment to find

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Configuring External ISDN TA with USB
by rdkoli＠excite.com 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

I have RH 7.2 Installed as a router. i have a Dlink DMI-128ESU ISDN (External) TA, which i want to configure it on linux on USB port. Can some1 please help me? ------------------------------------------------ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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(no subject)
by Jaishankar Krishnan Iyer 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Turbolinux
by Amol Hatwar 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 Keyur K Shroff wrote : > >Can someone comment on the rumor regarding TurboLinux? Please >see >http://www.linuxgram.com/article.pl?sid=02/07/18/0626223§ion=newsflash >for more details. > Linuxgram is authoritative ... it's *probably* true. -ah.

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Turbolinux
by Keyur K Shroff 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

Can someone comment on the rumor regarding TurboLinux? Please see http://www.linuxgram.com/article.pl?sid=02/07/18/0626223&section=newsflash for more details. Thanks. Regards, Keyur

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] The groupware is finally up
by Amol Hatwar 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote : >Actually, I am facing the same problem. >I have a lot of domain expertise in Accounts, Costing and >commercial >applications >I also have adequate expertise in software development under >windows >platform. Saswata having dev experience in some *any* platform helps. And you should concentrate on leveraging your strengths rather than weaknesses. >But in Linux, I am too, like Suhit, a newbie. >What do we have to do when we become a "mentor" for a project ? >How is this >thing actually going to work ? I don't think you need anything else except domain expertise :) > >I want to be a part of the project, but am more worried about >messing things >up for others. Ha ha ... your worries are probably justified, but everyone learns on the go. As long as everyone learns *you'll learn programming Linux, the programmer will learn about your domain*, things will be fine. Regards, -ah.

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Does not allow login even with Su on Redhat 6.2 box
by Jaishankar Krishnan Iyer 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

Hi Guys, I had one of my Redhat linux 6.2 box which was configured with live ip address. For experimental purpose, we did disable all services like ftp/telnet/finger etc with host.allow and host.deny allowing only one machine from our internal network to access this using ssh. The only service which was enabled was http on the external interface.There is no other services like ftp/lpd/nfs/ running on it. All the users/groups like games/shutdown/operator etc have been deleted. We have changed the permission using chattr for inet/ init conf files too. The box did NOT run any firewall etc. The next day what we found was, it would NOT allow us to login at all. At the login prompt , when one tried to login as any user or even "su" it would just jump back to login prompt. We rebooted the machine with single user mode and found that no passwd /shadow files were tampered with. Could i get some hint as to which are the likely files which i could look into which could cause this problem. This would help us further in the penetration test which we are conducting. Thanks and Regards Jaishankar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] The groupware is finally up
by Suhit Kelkar 22 Jul '02

22 Jul '02

Hi, I would like to help in the project. However, I do not know how to program. How can I assist? I am a freelance journalist and linux newbie. Suhit Kelkar -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Debian Woody CDs
by abhijeet 20 Jul '02

20 Jul '02

Hi, Does Somebody on the list know a good place to get debian woody cds?? Can somebody lend me the same, or can I have them written from somewhere? thx abhijeet

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difference betwn route and ip route
by Hiten Desai 20 Jul '02

20 Jul '02

Hi!, I am confused between route and ip route which one should be used in which case and whts the difference between both of them please help Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com

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lan wan routing
by Hiten Desai 20 Jul '02

20 Jul '02

Hi! I have routing problem between lan > wan wan > lan I have terminated vsat connection on a secondary lan card of linux I am able to ping remote gateways by ipchains but remote pcs are not able to ping local machines is there any thing like routing other than route command (as such ipchains would be NAT) how about routing like routers in linux if it is possible what are the commands for doing it ???? other than "ipchains" and "route" Please Help. Thanks, Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com

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Re[2]: [ILUG-BOM] RH Linux not overwriting MBR.
by Vinay Pai 20 Jul '02

20 Jul '02

> Well, it also depends on which version of Windows you're using. > If you're using something like ME or XP then, the Windows OS protects the MBR > somehow. So, any other software which tries to access / overwrite MBR will > fail. How can a system that isn't even running prevent anything? I thought The best (or worst) it could do is the restore the MBR to its old state AFTER you start windows. So at the very least you should get the lilo prompt at least once. Some BIOSes do protect the MBR, though... but they usually throw up a dialog box and besides they wouldn't have an effect on Linux which accesses the hardware directly, thereby cutting the BIOS out of the picture. > 2. If you have NT Boot Loader (if using XP), then create an image file of the > boot sector using dd. Copy this file to some windows partition. Edit your A simpler way, if your NT/2k/XP boot partition (the partition with NTLDR.EXE) is installed is FAT is to create a dummy 512-byte file (using dd) and add it to the boot.ini as you described. Then set the 'boot' parameter in Lilo as the name of the file... eg. boot = /mnt/winc/lilo.bin Then so long as you have your windows partition mounted rw you can just use lilo as you always do.

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Re:RH Linux not overwriting MBR
by Rohit Ramesh 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

> It goes through the entire installation process, and asks me to > reboot. But then directly boots into Windows. Tried Lilo & Grub. I > explicitly asked to overwrite MBR during installation. Check to see if your motherboard supports booting into Linux beyond the 1024 cylinder limit. Regards, Rohit. ________________________________________________ Rohit Ramesh mca @ vjti rohit(a)vjtimca.net ________________________________________________ Left to themselves, things tend to go from bad to worse.

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Re: Compiling linuxthreads for glibc
by Satya 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

Okay, I did a make install on glibc-2.2.5, and pine still works. How do I know that the new glibc is being used, or will be used by newly compiled programs, and stuff? [much rebooting and fscking] I spoke too soon. Running ldconfig killed everything. I can't even get into the system in single user mode. And it looks like 2.2.5 isn't even installed. I forked /usr and / before doing all these upgrades. The only difference in /lib/libc* and /usr/lib/libc* between the old and new systems seems to be the timestamps. Filenames and filesizes are identical. Anyone want to shed some light on this? -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> We are sorry, but the number you have dialed is imaginary. Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again.

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FEATURE: The promise of an operating system...
by Frederick Noronha 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

************************************************************************** NEVY OS -- THE PROMISE OF AN OPERATING SYSTEM: LINUX KERNEL PLUS WIMP Or, why working on hardware is a hard job in India -------------------------------------------------------------------------- BRIEfnCOUNTERS: BY FREDERICK NORONHA fred at bytesforall dot org ************************************************************************** We were leaving Bangalore by the sleeper-bus (yes, Goa has this strange mode of long-distance transport) when someone can rushing in to meet me. It was twentish-something Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)mac.com>, with a small hardware device in hand. That was the best part of a year ago. We were supposed to talk to each other via e-mail. But that never happened; mostly due to this writer's fault. Each time we exchanged mail, one ended up feeling that there were still more inputs needed before the 'story' could get done. Maybe because the story itself was a rather difficult one to comprehend. Putting Kathe in touch with a journo friend in Mumbai didn't quite work out. Fighting the odds in the hardware and software world, Kathe was obviously getting increasingly irritated with having to struggle to get a hearing from the media. Writing on software which is easy to describe or understand despite the distance is one thing. Hardware and operating systems prove to be an uphill task -- specially if you're the kind of a writer who background is journalism, rather than hard-core technology. How much of an innovation is this innovation? Is it an approach that makes sense? We're still not sure... So what better than let Kathe describe his work in his own words... We invite readers' reactions to Kathe's ideas, expressed in the form of a Q&A that he sent in recently: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- What is Nevy OS? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevy OS is a new name of the 'Indy' operating system, the first operating system from Tisya Microsystems Pvt. Ltd., and probably the first Operating System from the Indian sub-continent. Nevy OS is being created and constantly improved to work for the upcoming computing device from Tisya, called 'Nevy'. Nevy could be a computing device which will break away from most traditional theories, and twist certain beliefs to create the real people's computer. At this point, we would prefer not to talk about Nevy, because we want to maintain an element of surprise. But, just to keep you interested, let us tell you that it's going to be a portable *not a hand-held* and will be the culmination of over four years of research and development. Nevy OS is being built on the Linux kernel with a state of the art graphical environment which is zippy yet featureful. It is based on the 'WIMP' (Windows Icons Menus Pointers) paradigm that originated at Xerox and best implemented by Apple Computers and most abused by Microsoft ;^) Nevy in its current release has a menuing system; web browser jotpad; application game of snake network configurator. This is a Preview Release 1. It is being done to let people get a feel of what is coming their way. We will be releasing updated, improvised and application rich PRs regularly. Please keep your browsers tuned in to http://www.tisya.co.in/downloads/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why is it called Nevy? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Nevy' and the 'Nevy OS' get their names as a tribute to the person who has touched my heart. That person was the prime cause for bringing me out of the dumps, for making me fight back and infuse a renewed sense of purpose in life. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why is it not called 'Indy' anymore? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Because an awesome company (SGI) in Silicon Valley makes computers by the same name. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who were the people involved in the project directly/indirectly? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lots of them... But primarily, the most important people were: besides myself as the driving force and investor behind the idea, Erle Pereira, who has been one of the closest buddies and persons to support me the longest. He's also the one to be in a constant state of confusion, because of the various strategies laid out and executed by that terrible guy called Mayuresh. There's Amit Kucheria, one of the most amazing and enthusiastic brains, who have been providing constant moral support from afar (as far away as the US of A). Alan Kay, though he hasn't supported directly, but has always been the kind of person who would suddenly appear out of nowhere and tell you things which would make certain pieces of the big puzzle fit in. Mr. Jef Raskin again though not a direct supporter has been a constant guide and the force to make me think out of the box. (He also manages to give a kick on the #$%^ to wake you out of the dream world) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- When did it start, where and how? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- It started sometime around the year 1997-98 when I was getting bored of all the routine development work as part of his duties at Larsen & Toubro, Mumbai. I wanted something more challenging, something which would allow me to tap into my latent potential and do something significant. I was doing quite some amount of research on easy to deploy network solutions for data exchange, also some research on handwriting recognition, add to that my inner desire to build systems which would be so easy to use that they were almost intuitive. I was also disgruntled with the fact that Windows was spreading around faster than a virus. It became obvious that the path Windows was taking would demand an upgrade to hardware almost every year. That would mean the prices of hardware almost never going down, only the power offered would be a lot more for that same cost. That was a situation not conducive to bringing computing to the general masses (that idea of bringing computing to the masses arose out of the fact that I couldn't afford a computer till I had started working) I wanted the upcoming generation to grow up with computers, be as at ease with them as my generation was with VCRs. But, I also wanted to them to be technologically sound and work in an environment which would let them focus on their job (invisibility of technology). So one fine morning, during the bus ride to my office I popped up a question to start a brain storming session with my friend Rajeev Warrier (now at PW-C). The idea was to build an information appliance which would be hooked on to vast network of data (based on the Internet, but running parallel to the WWW) allowing the user access to information at the touch of a button. The appliance would have to be small, rugged, affordable and simple to use. (Personally, I wanted to base it on the LCARS system aboard the Star Trek Enterprise in the Next Generation series.) We figured, we would need a minimalistic OS, its sole data would be to start the hardware, get on the Internet and send queries and receive and display data. To avoid problems we wanted to eliminate the concept of a floppy disk drive or a CD drive (for that we thought we would make an OS which would be non-failing). And to keep costs low, we wanted to use the television as output, and provide a keyboard with built-in pointer controller (our terminology for mouse/trackball/ peticular switch) with a long cable (wireless would be too expensive). The biggest impediment would be the network. I envisaged a network based on the standard LAN (the benefit of having worked in a corporate environment) theme, only, we would call it SN (Society Network). This network would have to be the death bell of the irritating cable television network, since I wanted to provide 'Video on Demand'. We (Rajeev and me) would discuss it in detail every morning, sometimes during lunch, in the evening bus ride. We came up with an idea of creating separate smart disks which would be plug and play to the appliance hence providing external storage space (if required). Our biggest impediment was cost, the hardware cost just would go down (especially due to the TV output interface). That problem got solved one morning when I read an article in 'PC Quest' about a new MediaGX-based motherboard, created by a company in Bangalore 'Bharati Electronics'. We were euphoric. It infused a new life to our brain-storming sessions. I went ballistic, somehow, it seemed -- the force was with us -- that things were going our way, I met up with a guy at one of my regular Linux Users meets. He was a hardware assembler. I talked about the motherboard, he said he had heard about it. I talked him into lending me one of those boards. I told him, "If this succeeds, you get a cut and you will be rolling in money. If it fails, what's there to lose? You just assemble a PC with the board and sell it off." He agreed, he contacted the BE (Bharati Electronics) office in Bombay, got hold of a board and put the whole thing in an old casing and gave it to me. I toyed around with it for a couple of weeks, showed him a demo (which was pathetic). He was not happy, and started pushing to give back the system. In the meanwhile, I had been talking with an old colleague of mine -- Deepak Sharma, who had left L&T -- about my ideas. He was working for Fore Systems which got bought out by Marconi Telecom, UK and I figured I would need his help to execute my idea of establishing SNs. He talked to me at length about my concepts, and said it was a workable idea. We had discussed it for long, and I even showed him a demo. When the assembler pressurized me too much, I had to return the machine, but that wasn't before I had taken a trip to Bangalore and shown a demo to a company, via Deepak's contacts. The company offered me a job to bring that concept to reality. I jumped as I had already got frustrated with all the ridicule at L&T. Perhaps people out there just couldn't get it, being too closed minded. I reached Bangalore, and after that things happened in a sort of fast forward. What I had imagined the company to be -- based on Deepak's information -- was not what it really was. The company was dying, and I was supposed to be their saviour. Add to that I had to do it without any support (neither people to work with, nor sufficient equipment). I worked long and hard, worked nights at end, but things were proceeding too slow, with only me working on both, the hardware specification and software development. I fell ill with Typhoid, almost scrapped death, and had to come back to Bombay for treatment. In the meanwhile, I was made into a scapegoat for the failures of that company. The company got shutdown. Luckily I escaped with the bare minimum of injuries. Back in Bombay, broken physically and emotionally, I moved around aimlessly for quite some time, till one fine day I sat and thought things out. I figured, 'I am young, haven't got much to lose and that I giving it one more shot would be the best alternative.' I started afresh, dug up old contacts, built new, spoke with a couple of developers -- Erle was one of them -- and asked around for funds. No one was investing. One of my associates had heard about my plight. He also knew that I toying around with the idea about introducing a StrongARM (processor)-based computing device. One of his business contacts had one StrongARM evaluation board which he could not use. He got us both together. The owner of the board suggested that I collaborate with his company to develop a set-top-box for his markets in the Far East. It was the turning point, though due to my inexperience I faced a lot of hardships. Though after a prolonged skirmish (and a pending case against them) the collaboration fell through, I managed to salvage around Rs 450,000 (under $10,000) from the deal as fees towards consultation and miscellaneous expenses. Using that as capital, I took a trip to Taiwan, got oriented with the workings of the place -- very amusing, those guys work with hardware like we work with software, quick.... Built a dependable base in four working days, and a prototype, came back... That was the period of the 'crash of twin towers', the market had collapsed along with them. This was the time when I figured it would be better to start improving the Operating System and develop a contact base in India. We worked on Nevy OS (then called Indy). I moved all around the place (including Bangalore, where I met a person called Fred) and showed him one of our prototypes. We did an _alpha_ release on Jan 26, 2002, and approximately 6 months from then we have now down a preview release... A Poem attributed to the people at Tisya: Here's to the crazy ones... The Misfits, The Rebels, The Troublemakers, The Round pegs in the Square Holes, The Ones who see things Differently, They're not fond of rules and have no respect for the status quo, You can quote them, Disagree with them, Glorify or Vilify them, About the only thing you can't do is ignore them, Because they change things, They push the human race forward, And while some may see them as the crazy ones, We see genius, Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, Are the ones who do

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] elisp
by Philip S Tellis 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Nagarjuna G. wrote: > (defun my-centre () > "Nagarjuna G.") > > (defun my-name () > "Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR") Hmm, interesting. -- I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the demigodic party. -- Dennis Ritchie

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Compiling linuxthreads for glibc
by Satya 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

/tmp/cc4koWpS.s: Assembler messages: /tmp/cc4koWpS.s:1214: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction /tmp/cc4koWpS.s:1221: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction make[1]: *** [signals.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/6/backup/glibc-2.2.5/linuxthreads' make: *** [linuxthreads/others] Error 2 Help :-( gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release) (3.0.x doesn't compile on my system) glibc-2.2.5 linuxthreads: glibc-linuxthreads-2.2.5.tar.gz Kernel Linux 2.4.8. It's an AMD Duron or something. -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> Do radioactive cats have 18 half-lives ?

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What Scanner to buy?
by vma＠softhome.net 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

Hi! The school I work for is planning to buy a scanner that works on Debian (planning to use either potato 2.2r6 or Woody) Can people mail me a list of scanner models they have successfully been able to install on their GNU/Linux machines? We are thinking of buying a canon 640P. Any input on this? BTW, I have been to the SANE website and have the compatibility list. Samsung claims that ML1450 would work on Linux. Has anyone been able to make it work in Debian? BTW, I couldn't see this printer listed in www.linuxprinting.org. Any suggestions as to what Laser Printer would be most ideal to have in the price range of upto Rs. 22,000? Vikas.

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Neighbour table overflow
by funky 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

hi linuxers, I am doing natting using ipchains on linux box. the problem i that i am continuosly getting error messages like " Neighbour table overflow " on /var/log/messages. It seems that my arp table is getting overflowed due to the load. I tried the man page of arp command and there is no option to directly delete all the enteries of the arp table. Or is there any other solution ? regards, funky. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com

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LDAP Replication
by Himanshu Shukla 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am trying to do LDAP replication across some 10-20 machines. I have been half way successful in the same. That is, if I add a new record to the Master, it gets replicated instantaneously across the slaves. What I need to figure out is the other way round - When I add a new record to the slave, how does the Master know abt it (which would then send the record to the other slaves). I am using OpenLDAP-2.0.21, on RedHat 7.2, kernel 2.4.7. Any pointers? - -- Regards, Himanshu | Cybertech Networks Pvt. Ltd. http://www.thefreespeech.org | email: himanshu(a)cnpl.co.in (Initiate, Collaborate, Contribute) | Web: http://www.cnpl.co.in | - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ iEYEARECAAYFAj03pesACgkQU1ohqIKr1nM03ACeJ2Mh6/1BlPLUTDn96Zm1nuwp UEgAoIxh/3iz6mkcQwyDWUYzLtURBjZQ =Dt4j -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] ny OBJECTIONS to settin up groupware on this domain...
by Amol Hatwar 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

>postnuke was suggested instead of phpnuke (buggy and insecure), >or maybe we should just wait until you finish writing yours :-P >oh waitta minute vapourware..... n/m. hehe yeah vapourware ... yeah. I remember chiding people like this myself, so much for having your own medicine. But yeah let time be the final deciding factor about this. regards, -ah _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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XOSL - The New BootLoader
by N.a.v.i.n ....D.h.a.n.u.k.a 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

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Re: Limiting CPU Usage
by Vinay Pai 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

> I need a way to set a hard limit on processor usage on the server. A > user had spawned three processes, one on each processor (the fourth one > got fried a long time ago), which kept them 90% busy. The result was > that the server became to slow to even reply to ping packets, not to > mention loss of DNS service. > > The command "ulimit" has an option "-t" that can set a limit on > processor usage in seconds ... what does that mean? > > I want to say something like "only x% on only y processors" if possible. > Is there a way to do that? > > Will simply limiting processor usage help solve the problem we faced? I think 'nice' should be sufficient. IMHO Limiting processor usage (to %x on processor y) doesn't make sense because when there is heavy load on the server, any reasonable value of x will be larger than that the kernel will assign anyway, and during light load you'll be wasting CPU time. If you "nice" the processes enough the scheduler will make sure that higher priority processes (like DNS etc.) will get all the time they need.

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CD Re-Writing????
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

Hi Guys, Anyone knows of a decent (GUI/CUI) packet writing software??? 'Coz I'm having problems writing RWs in Linux. I tried KOnCD and XCDRoast, but these are not good for packet writing (for RW discs in UDF format) My Writer is BenQ (Acer) 32/10/40. Thanks, Kunal

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] config files
by Himanshu Shukla 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 16 Jul 2002, Rajesh Deo wrote: > On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 07:26, Pablo Ares Gastesi wrote: > [snip] > > know about it. Why don't we keep a set of configuration files in one of > > the ilug servers? These will be the config files needed to run programs > [snip] > > I'm willing to start with files from my system. > > > > What do you think? > > Sounds like good idea! > I agree, will sure make things a lot easier. We can definitely set this up along with the Groupware. Won't take much space as well. Wot say Trevor? - -- Regards, | Cybertech Networks Pvt. Ltd. | email: himanshu(a)cnpl.co.in Himanshu | Web: http://www.cnpl.co.in | - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ iEYEARECAAYFAj01BzUACgkQU1ohqIKr1nO8HgCdGDRC9Pai4MYgVQMz0/UU9Ktt 2yIAn1YOcVPwpsMV5wlXXoae0ou8Qq9l =LI+Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Limiting processor usage
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Hi, I need a way to set a hard limit on processor usage on the server. A user had spawned three processes, one on each processor (the fourth one got fried a long time ago), which kept them 90% busy. The result was that the server became to slow to even reply to ping packets, not to mention loss of DNS service. The command "ulimit" has an option "-t" that can set a limit on processor usage in seconds ... what does that mean? I want to say something like "only x% on only y processors" if possible. Is there a way to do that? Will simply limiting processor usage help solve the problem we faced? Sameer. -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ####[ Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]########################### Sub : Lesser known commands (toe) LOST #212 To know what all terms are supported by the kernel use: $toe | less This info may be needed when telnetting to another host with a different OS which does not recognise linux as TERM type. ####<bish(a)nde.vsnl.net.in>####################################

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Linux partitions
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Sameer Shinde spewed into the ether: <snip> > Don't ask me to read how-tos. I want to discusses this >point with you as I found variation in the suggestion in >various ppls. No HOWTOs. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ Lots of reasoning there (and its a standard too). <snip> > During the installation, once linux dispelled a message >that, your /(root) partition should not be less than 250MB. I have / with 100 MB and I can still install deadrat on that. Its a matter of what you install and stuff. I personally use /,/boot,/usr,/var,/usr/local,/home,/tmp, swap (and maybe /opt). Mount /usr, / and /boot as readonly, maybe /usr/local too (unless you keep installing software like I do. >But then what about other partitions, like /home, /var, /dev >/tmp & other. What they are used for? See that URL I mentioned. >One more....... >& in which order they should be mounted? >which is the 1st & which one is last? / first, then the others, in any order you wish. /bin/mount *MUST* be present in /, /usr need not be mounted for lots of reasons. Devdas Bhagat ------------------------------------------------------------ NEW - FREE Nettaxi 56kbs Dial-up INTERNET ACCESS with NO ADS or Ad Bars! http://www.nettaxi.com/isp/

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Re: RAM v/s Swap Size (was Error while transfering install image on HDD- Out of disk space)
by Vinay Pai 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

> Your swap should ideally be twice your RAM. Could someone explain this to me... (please no lengthy explantation of what swap space means, please... I'm a computer science graduate :) ) I've never quite figured out why. After all, your system uses a certain amount of virtual memory that depends on the apps you use. physical ram + swap space used = virtual memory used Thus shouldn't you need *less* swap space if you have more RAM? I have 384MB of RAM and my swap space usage remains stubbornly stuck at 0. Wouldn've been an awful waste of 768 MB or hard disk space if I'd followed that rule-of-the-thumb!! (Instead what I've done is to remove the swap partition and allocate swap files if I ever do anything memory-intensive enough to require more space... and that has never happened)

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Re: Limiting processor usage
by Amish Mehta 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote: >The command "ulimit" has an option "-t" that can set a limit on >processor usage in seconds ... what does that mean? if u say ulimit of 1 sec, process will be KILLed if it uses more than 1sec of CPU time. (ps reports TIME field) > >I want to say something like "only x% on only y processors" if possible. >Is there a way to do that? 'nice' might be of help. But percentagewise CPU usage, I think can not be done, but not sure. > >Will simply limiting processor usage help solve the problem we faced? If you use ulimit than your problem might get solved but genuine users might get into problem. Amish.

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Linux partitions
by Sameer Shinde 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Hi All, How many partitions should we have to install Linux on any system? & what should be their size if we have 4GB of disk space & installation packages take around 2.5GB to install. Swap, I know, double the ram.(127MB in most cases) On the RHL 7.1 CD , in the installation strategies how-to, I read that we can install linux with min. 3 partitions. They are, /boot, /swap & /(root). But this way I found the system is slow Don't ask me to read how-tos. I want to discusses this point with you as I found variation in the suggestion in various ppls. Some says your / partition should be the largest on the other hand some says /usr partition should be large, as the installed S/W get installed on this partition One of my friend told me that your /boot partition should be the largest partition. I know he is wrong, as some of our friends told me that around 10 to 20 MB are enough for /boot. During the installation, once linux dispelled a message that, your /(root) partition should not be less than 250MB. But then what about other partitions, like /home, /var, /dev /tmp & other. What they are used for? One more....... & in which order they should be mounted? which is the 1st & which one is last? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Messenger IDs : MSN : s2sameer Yahoo! : s9sameer RediffBol : s2sameer Indiatimes : s2sameer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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RPM Problem
by Sachin 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

hi there while i was upgrading rpm pakage from rpm-4.0.2x i removed rpm of previos version now i can install newer version please tell me how to isntall rpm package do i have to install it from a tarball thanx for u r suggestion in advance sachin -- ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= sachin(a)mediaibc.com MediaIBC ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= Kissing a smoker is like licking an ashtray. ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Userfriendly
by Amol Hatwar 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 Shishir wrote : >I agree with Amit. *choke ... chuckle* Amit who? I am amol. :) with warm wishes, -ah _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Help in Ximian Desktop downloaded from ilub bom site
by Sachin 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

hi there i tried to install ximian red carpet on the on box downloaded from from db.ilug-bom.org.in no i could inot install the Ximian Desktop as it gives error as on 3 step after i select the local dir to install ------------------------- ERROR: Unable to resolve the server. Please ensure that your network connection is working properly. ------------------------- i have dir struct as follows /downloads | +--redcarpet [DIR] +distro.xml install.xml +installer-rpm-glibc2.2-i386 snarf.i386 which-distro.i386 +-----ximian-gnome[DIR] +---redhat-62-i386[DIR] + [All rpms] thanx for u r suggestions -- ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= sachin(a)mediaibc.com MediaIBC ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= Lay off the muses, it's a very tough dollar. -- S.J. Perelman ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=

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HDD in LBA? CHS? Huh?
by Satya 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

So I went and got a new 40GB hard drive and plugged it in as /dev/hdc. This box only had /dev/hda until now. So what does Linux fdisk (and cfdisk) do? They both think it's a 6GB drive. Fiddling with all settings in CMOS doesn't help. besides, the *kernel* knows it's 40 gigs. Enter DOS fdisk. Which happily recognizes the drive, creates a token 100MB partition (I don't trust LILO, I use loadlin. I should put lilo next.) and happily formats it. (Okay, that was DOS format. Whatever.) Now Linux fdisk sees all the cylinders/sectors/foo. So now I'm embarassed: Why did Linux fdisk not recognize it for what it was, the first time? For that matter, which is better in CMOS: Auto (duh) LBA Large (whatever *that* means) CHS (and lie about the geometry) ? -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> I didn't know it was impossible when I did it.

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new user, internet connectivity problem
by Abhijit Bhabhe 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

hi, have just joined this list. we are currently in the process of setting up a linux server...having problems with squid, unable to connect to the internet...it says cant down-load the page, sent and received bytes are also very low. what could be the problem. do get back if any of you have ideas.. thnx, abhijit

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Simputer
by Sameer Shinde 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

Hi All, Yesterday I read an articall about the Simputers ( SIMple comPUTER ) which are meant for the satisfing the need ofthe peoples from rural area in India. Peoples those are just literate or low qualified but still wants to know & learn about the computer can take the great advantage of the simputer. According to an artical, one software team of IIT is developing these simputers & it will probably be avaliablein the market from November. Mr. Mark Mathayan of IIT encore team said that, simputers are designed & developed by keeping in mind the percentage of literacy in India. He further said that, these simputers will be avaliable with a low prize of approx. Rs. 9,000 /- only. These Simputers will have all the facilities which are avaliable in normal computer. But they will not be working on MS-Windows, rather they will work on LINUX, which is freely avaliable world wide Many foreign companies have shown their interest in this project & asked for the rights for the production of these simputers. But IIT has not given the rights to anybody as it wants the simputer to be purely Indian & wants some Indian company to come up & start the production. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - If we forget rest of the part of this artical & concentrate on using LINUX on the simputers, I think this is a golden opportunity for us to wide sprade the Linux in India & making the peoples aware of Linux. We can even add it in our projects TO - DO list. So.... What U guys say? Think on it............. Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Messenger IDs : MSN : s2sameer Yahoo! : s9sameer RediffBol : s2sameer Indiatimes : s2sameer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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elisp
by Vinay Pai 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

I've always known you can do real cool things in emacs with elisp, but never got around to learning how. Has anyone out there significantly tweaked their .emacs files? If so care to send me an example of the stuff you've done?

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[3] Error while transfering install image on HDD- Out of disk space
by Sameer Shinde 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

} On the 3rd day i.e. today, I deleted all the 3 linux partitions of the disk & accessed the free space from the windows ( fdisk ) & scanned it for any bad sector, which I didn't found on the disk so I again partitioned them for linux ( in linux setup) But still get the same message as before i.e. " An error occurred while transferring......... " $ { WHY IS THIS MESSAGE COMMING UP? WHERE IS THE MISTAKE? } $ { HOW CAN I COME OVER IT ? } Here during the partitioning I got another message that, " Automatic Partitioning Failed There is not sufficient disk space in order to automatically partition your hard disk. You will need to manually partition your disk for RHL to install." Plz choose the tool U would like to use the partitioning your system for RHL - [ Disk Druid & fdisk ] Before this installation, I had deleted the partition which was created for scanning in windows. So I had around 4GB of free disk space, But still I got the above message. Waiting for your helpful reply, Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Messenger IDs : MSN : s2sameer Yahoo! : s9sameer RediffBol : s2sameer Indiatimes : s2sameer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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[1] Error while transfering install image on HDD- Out of disk space
by Sameer Shinde 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

Hi All, - - - - - - - - - - - I am providing u this detail story b'coz I want u to understand the problem properly & give me out the correct solution. The mail is divided in the 3 parts b'coz of the restirision on the mail size - - - - - - - - - - - Since last 3 days I am trying to install RHL 7.1 on my pc but, every time my installation fails b'coz of failure of disk partitioning or due to system hanging, yet I'm not able to install RH on my pc & I'm still trying...... I have kept around 4GB of my disk space, to install linux on my m/c the total disk space I assign in the following way. /boot 54 MB hda8 $ { what is the min space we can assign to /boot? } swap 133 MB hda9 / remaining all space hda10 ( around 3.7 GB ) $ { Do I need to create any other partion for the installation & for improving the performance, as I found the system is quite slow in the 1st installation? } [ I read in one of the how-to (on the CD) that we can install linux with these 3 partitions, so I followed it ] [ NOTE: I'm not able to partition the disk with Disk Druid as it is not setting up /boot partition saying that your boot partition is >1024 cylinders & can not be mounted, so I used fdisk instead ( after reading the info & help ) & I found it very easy. ] o.k... On the very 1st day, the installation goes fine ( with little difficulties) but there was still some errors such as after shuting down the system it was giving an error - * general protection fault : fooo cpu : 0 EIP : 0050 [<00008881>] [snip] . . . . . . . . . . [snip] * dos partitions were not able to mount [ I tryed ' mount ' command along with editing /etc/fstab file but it didn't work, leaving the message vfat partitions can not be mounted ] $ { why it was not mounting the partitioning ? } * I was not getting a proper screen resolution. which I wanted to solve. So I finally desided to re-install RHL. Sorry for inconveniance, SAMEER :)

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] how to surf using linux
by Nikhil Karkera 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 ketan shah wrote : >tell me how to surf using linux.how to configure modem >settings in linux.how to receive and send hotmail and >yahoo mails using linux I found "Linux in easy steps" to be a nice beginer's book for GNU/Linux (from the 'in easy steps' series). Has most of the simple things people want to do after they install GNU/Linux, like setting the wallpaper on X, connecting to the Net etc. I think it costs a little over Rs.100/= Warm Regards, Nikhil. _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #545 - 4 msgs
by Vinay Pai 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

Hi linuxers-request, Monday, July 15, 2002, 12:37:34 PM, you wrote: > Send Linuxers mailing list submissions to > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > You can reach the person managing the list at > linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Linuxers digest..." > Today's Topics: > 1. Re: problem with modem (Shishir) > 2. RE: About firewalls... (Amarendra Godbole (Intl Vendor)) > 3. Re: [3] Error while transfering install image on HDD- > Out of disk space (Rajen M. Parekh) > --__--__-- > Message: 1 > From: "Shishir" <iamshishir(a)lycos.co.uk> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] problem with modem > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:27:15 +0530 > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Use the L3 string for your modem. > Shishir > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Saswata Banerjee & Associates" <scrap(a)saswatabanerjee.com> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:52 AM > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] problem with modem > Since we are on the topic of modems ..... > I also use Mandrake 8.2. > My modem works fine, but is there any way of making the modem play the line > sound when it dials and connects ? Meaning, while it is dialing and > connecting, I would like to hear the sound from the modem to know if it is > getting the line, dialing, whether line is busy or waiting to connect, etc. > I could not find the relavent option in the control panel > Regards > saswata > --__--__-- > Message: 2 > Subject: RE: [ILUG-BOM] About firewalls... > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:24:21 +0530 > From: "Amarendra Godbole (Intl Vendor)" <v-amarg(a)microsoft.com> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >> Packet filtering alongwith other measures should work. IPchains is >> good try it out. Also use tools like dsniff and nmap to check the >> security of the network.Shutdown services which are not >> needed. And block >> all ports which are not in use. > ...and follow the paranoid approach to security. ``Deny all, allow > selectively.'' You should be enough secure that way... :) > --amar > -- > Amarendra A. Godbole / Microsoft ``Services For UNIX'' / These opinions > are _MINE_. > If anything can go wrong, _FIX_ it. (To hell with MURPHY) > --__--__-- > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:00:32 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Rajen M. Parekh" <rajparekh(a)vsnl.net> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [3] Error while transfering install image on HDD- > Out of disk space > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Sameer Shinde wrote: >> } >> >> On the 3rd day i.e. today, I deleted all the 3 linux partitions of the disk & >> accessed the free space from the windows ( fdisk ) & scanned it for any >> bad sector, which I didn't found on the disk so I again partitioned them >> for linux ( in linux setup) But still get the same message as before i.e. >> " An error occurred while transferring......... " >> >> $ { WHY IS THIS MESSAGE COMMING UP? WHERE IS THE MISTAKE? } >> $ { HOW CAN I COME OVER IT ? } >> > Use fdisk and make necessary partitions, except a seperate partition for > /boot. For booting problems for partitions beyond 1024 cylinder, you > should use loadlin. This shouldn't be a problem with the newer versions of LILO (or Grub). You just need to add "lba32" to /etc/lilo.conf Unfortulately if you use disk druid during RHL installation it still complains if you use a boot partition > 1024

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OT: s/w expert needed ....
by Ulhas Vaidya 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

dear all, an acquitance's company in andheri needs an expert in system integration for one day. this company is involved in iso quality certification (like iso 9000, 9002 etc). the date it would need the expert is 23 /24 july. ideally, the person should have B.E. or equivalent deg with some experience..... the money paid for a day's service will be quite ok (as i think it, of course..) pls call Mr. K. K. Banerjee / Mr. Frances on 6730915 / 16. thank you for your time regards, ulhas

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Hi
by Nilesh Singit 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

Hello, I just installed PCQ Redhat 7.1. on my new P4 1.5 on 10gb hdd with win2000 insstalled on the 40gb. i am able 2 run both win200 and linux with dual booting my prob is that in haste i forgot to configure the vga card, i have asus v3005 32mb, this was not shown in the list. i learnt from a friend that i could've used sis 300 (is it in the list shown by redhat??). now i am not able 2 startx. my question is how do i configure X windows to take the correct drivers for with re-installing linux all over again. my vga card is agp asus v3005 32mb ram monitor is lg studioworks 563N please help! nilesh

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #543 - 15 msgs
by Rajendra Shastrakar(Raj) 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

> From: "Amol Hatwar" <amolhatwar(a)rediffmail.com> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] OBJECTIONS to setting up groupware + volunteering for ILUG-Mumbai > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > > > > At present I feel I would be better off > >with the designing and maintaing of ILUG-Mumbai website. I Notsure wot u guyz are implementing .But i think you can have a look at my zope product http://forums.gnu.org.in/Volunteers

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] HDD in LBA? CHS? Huh?
by Vinay Pai 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

>Large (whatever *that* means) FYI "Large" means larger than *gasp* 32MB. (MB, not GB) Basically a remnant of the "640kb oughta be enough for anyone" days.

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] About firewalls...
by Amarendra Godbole (Intl Vendor) 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

> Packet filtering alongwith other measures should work. IPchains is > good try it out. Also use tools like dsniff and nmap to check the > security of the network.Shutdown services which are not > needed. And block > all ports which are not in use. ...and follow the paranoid approach to security. ``Deny all, allow selectively.'' You should be enough secure that way... :) --amar -- Amarendra A. Godbole / Microsoft ``Services For UNIX'' / These opinions are _MINE_. If anything can go wrong, _FIX_ it. (To hell with MURPHY)

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problem with internal modem
by k_sapre＠softhome.net 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

Hi luggers , I've installed Mandrake 8.2 & I am having Motorola SM56 PCI internal modem on ttys3 or com4 . I am trying to connect to Internet thru Linux. I tried to configure my system using Mandrake Control Center , but when i clicked on "Connect" tab , it shows "connection failed" after sometime. When I list my hardware using HardDrake tool it lists my modem correctly , so I think Linux has recognised my internal modem . But when I click on properties for modem , it shows all details like vendor and all except for 'kernel modeule ' for which it says 'UNKNOWN' . So do i need to install driver ? Please Help . Thanx in advance . Kedar.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Userfriendly
by Amol Hatwar 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote : >How large are your documents ? > >We also work on some large documents. However, (at least in >windows), we >have not faced problems. We have faced some difficulties on >spreadsheets, >but under special conditions. If you have a set of complex, >inter-connected *snip* OK great ... heaa**vvvyy user here. No arguments. But what I was actually trying to say was that a lot of work still needs to be done. Linux has an upperhand in server-end applictaions no doubts about that. But in the desktop area, Windoze still rules. Perhaps, we should learn something from the way they make their UI's. We always say that Linux is enetring the desktop area, but slowly. Has anyone wondered how fast M$ is doing? If you have to race-em' you have to run faster. For heavens' sake lets at least talk about getting jet-packs rather than row-row-row your boat .... -ah _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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(no subject)
by upendra gandhi 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] an important concern for the PRC
by Amol Hatwar 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 Nikhil Karkera wrote : >On Sun, 07 Jul 2002 Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote : >[snip] >>It is important to let people know and realise how much can be >>achieved on >>Linux, how easy it is for end users to operate and what software >>is >>available. Ahem ... It is NOT easy. Linux us still not user friendly. There are a lot of issues with reagrds to usability and othe stuff ... even Redhat accepts it :). >> > This is a really important concern for Linux. Though it is >>powerful >> > and flexible ,most people are not aware of it's advantages. >>Most of the >> > people think it's a *cheap software* which is not worth >>working on or >Unfortunately this is quite true. I teach students doing their >MSc in s/w systems, and I was amazed at their ignorance about >free software. Yeah true ... while >Since I teach software engineering, we've taken up GNU/Linux as a >case study for this subject. I get the feeling it has aroused >their interest in free s/w. One student asked me, "If it's so >great, which I can see it is, how come we never knew about >it?". There are a lot of other great things that people don't know about too ... :) >I also wish to encourage these students to take up GNU/Linux >related final-semester projects, where I hope the PRC will assist >me. > Nice Nice ... keep the steam up :) -AH _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] ny OBJECTIONS to settin up groupware on this domain...
by Amol Hatwar 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 Trevor Warren wrote : > >--- Chandrashekhar Bhosle <cnb(a)freedomink.org> wrote: > > Yeah, use postnuke instead. *eeeeekkkk* postnuke = portal serving. Thats why I am making mah own CMS in PHP. Post nuke isn't worth it *remotely*. Of course, you could try. But this is what I feel about it. -ah _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] About firewalls...
by Amol Hatwar 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 NIRAV KAKU wrote : >HI, > >I have recently joined a company where I think, they are in love >with NT. Ugh! Anyway, I am shifting our mail / proxy servers from >NT to Linux. *snip* arrghhh nirav ... there are already a plethora of howtos on this and there are alos plenty of messages pointing people to howto's. Doesn't anyone check archives? -ah. _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] OBJECTIONS to setting up groupware + volunteering for ILUG-Mumbai
by Amol Hatwar 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 Shankar Ramchandran wrote : > >----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vinod Ramanathan" <vinodr_678(a)myrealbox.com> > > > At present I feel I would be better off >with the designing and maintaing of ILUG-Mumbai website. I >spring > from a hardware background and will be picking up the software >concepts as I get along. >[snip] *good going* :) -ah _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Re: ASUS VGA Card on RedHat [was Re: [ILUG-BOM] Hi]
by Vinayak Hegde 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

On 14 Jul 2002 13:44:57 +0530 "Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe" wrote: > my prob is that in haste i forgot to configure the vga card, i have > asus v3005 32mb, this was not shown in the list. i learnt from a > friend that i could've used sis 300 (is it in the list shown by > redhat??). > > I don't have an answer to your original problem, but my advice is to > firt upgrade to RHL 7.3 before trying to figure out your card ... 7.3 is > likely to have better support for your card. > > Sameer. > -- > MTech Student, > Reconfigurable Computing Lab, > KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. If u are confident enough or want to experiment, try out the generic server or some other Xserver for asus chip and try it our if it works. However you need to have your card manual/user guide by your side as you may need the details.try it out. But be sure of what you are doing or you may thrash your system. However that may teach you a thing or two new about your system. The command for the same is Xconfigurator. to get a graphical login set the initdefault line in /etc/inittab to 5 happy experimenting. -->vinayak hegde ################################################# #Linux - The choice of the GNU Generation # ################################################# __________________________________________________________________________ http://dating.zeenext.com Log on to nextDATE. It's the next best thing to doing it.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] telnet fails to port 25
by akshaysalkar 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

so is that if mail has to be sent or received...a mta has to be present on each terminal.?? also is it possible to read mail via outlook or netscape ie. pop3 mails if the MTA is qmail?? linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, akshaysalkar wrote: > when i try to telnet 192.168.0.1 25 > it says > connection refused why? > > however my telnet 127.0.0.1 25 > does accept the connection Please read the docs/faqs before posting questions. It happens like this most likely because your mail server is only bound to your loopback interface. What mail server are you using? If you're using sendmail, then read the faq at sendmail.org to see your solution. Philip -- Help me, I'm a prisoner in a Fortune cookie file! _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] About firewalls...
by Vinayak Hegde 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

Anyway, I am shifting our mail / proxy servers from NT to > Linux. However, I need some assistance designing the network security > using a firewall. I am wondering if packet level filtering will work > well enough. Packet filtering alongwith other measures should work. IPchains is good try it out. Also use tools like dsniff and nmap to check the security of the network.Shutdown services which are not needed. And block all ports which are not in use. --> vinayak hegde ################################################# #Linux - The choice of the GNU Generation# ################################################## __________________________________________________________________________ http://dating.zeenext.com Log on to nextDATE. It's the next best thing to doing it.

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OBJECTIONS to setting up groupware + volunteering for ILUG-Mumbai
by Vinod Ramanathan 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 15:48 > > If ny1 has ny objections/suggestions towards settin > up of the PRC site phpgroupware and phpnuke on the > site.....please let us know now. > Trevor Warren Just a suggestion. Instead of going in for a whole scale groupware wouldn't a CVS plus a bug reporting program (like bugzilla or track+) suffice for project co-ordination. We can add a discussion forum (like phpBB) here carrying project specific discussions. People contribute to software on an as and when basis and complete groupware package can get irrelevent here. Excuse me for slightly degressing from the topic. I am a latest entrant into the this ILUG community, though I am using GNU/Linux for more than 5 mths now. In maintaining the tradition of quid pro quo GNU/Linux tradition I wish to proffer my help to the ILUG-Mumbai activites. At present I feel I would be better off with the designing and maintaing of ILUG-Mumbai website. I spring from a hardware background and will be picking up the software concepts as I get along. So in short, can this tyro be of any help in this area -- considering the fact that I can regularly put in only an hour or so of work everyday. In the spirit of GNU, Happy Hacking! --

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Invalid compressed format?
by Satya 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

Why would my new 2.4.18 kernel say invalid compressed format when booting with loadlin? -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> Moo!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] problem with internal modem
by sameer shinde 13 Jul '02

13 Jul '02

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] problem with internal modem
by sameer shinde 13 Jul '02

13 Jul '02

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About firewalls...
by NIRAV KAKU 13 Jul '02

13 Jul '02

HI, I have recently joined a company where I think, they are in love with NT. Ugh! Anyway, I am shifting our mail / proxy servers from NT to Linux. However, I need some assistance designing the network security using a firewall. I am wondering if packet level filtering will work well enough. Please email me personally if you have suggestions. Thanks in advance. NIRAV KAKU

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Re: Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Userfriendly
by Amol Hatwar 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

>non techie ?) user will not have problems with it. He can >continue using >internet, email, word / excle type of applications without facing >any >problems. In fact, if you use star office, he does not even need >to learn >new commands since it is almost same as in msoffice. has anyone made StarOffice choke-up. The size of my documents sometimes do. :) -AH _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #539 - 14 msgs
by Vinay Pai 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

>> i have tried to install KDE3 from the rpms that KDE site has given on their >> site but it gives dependacy problem can any body suggest me what rpm(s) needed >> to solve this dependacy problem. thanx in advance RPM tells you what packages need to be installed/updated. At least paste the command you used and the output... otherwise its really shooting in the dark.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ???Error encountered.....ny1 who can debug.
by Himanshu Shukla 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear Luggerz, On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Trevor Warren wrote: > I am also looking at some1 donating server-space > temporarily with mysql/php support to setup > phpgroupware. Dr. Nag will be having us another server > in a fortnite's time. > > Trevor Warren Been "passively" reading mails abt the project resource centre with keen interest for some time. Because of some circumstances (I wld probably be leaving India in a coupla months time), I thot I won't be able to contribute much. But I already had something like this in mind, long before Trevor put up this idea on the list - a site dedicated to "initiate, collaborate and contribute" to the Linux cause in India. I had already registered a domain, and am in the process of designing the site. But till that time (and even later), I would be more than glad to dedicate some space to host phpgroupware, especally since, that was the whole aim of my creating the site. The registered domain is called "thefreespeech.org". This is just a suggestion, and my way of contributing to the cause. - -- Regards, | Cybertech Networks Pvt. Ltd. | email: himanshu(a)cnpl.co.in Himanshu | Web: http://www.cnpl.co.in | - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ iEYEARECAAYFAj0r8cAACgkQU1ohqIKr1nPFqgCgq9Cl8e9jKIeL+R22l9wb1kDI H7MAoI1/Z+YUAMtS9IxS0WMCdEEtQg49 =gQzx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Checkpoint Vs Cisco Vs Astaro
by shankar_ramchan＠vsnl.net 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

abcdef4444in(a)yahoo.co.in wrote Who is market leader Checkpoint or Cisco ?? [snip] I would say Checkpoint is the market leader. Based purely on personal experiences, I believe that Cisco is popular becasue it is a hardware based f/W but Checkpoint related products like the Nokia box are eating into Cisco's market share. - Shankar

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