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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Venue for Meeting on 19th
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

What did the polls say?

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Venue for Meeting on 19th
by Venkatesh Hariharan 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

Amish Munshi wrote: >What is the venue for GLUG meet at 19th? Most probably MET in Bandra. Steve from Ensim of Pune will talk on Python and you can talk on Mono. Alternately, we can take up Mono at the next GLUG meet. Venky

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Transparent proxy with Iptables & Squid ERROR
by Dinesh Shah 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

Hi Rohit, On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 13:55, Rohit Baisakhiya wrote: > > Add following lines in your Squid Conf and restart Squid. > > > > /etc/squid/squid.conf > > > > httpd_accel_uses_host_header on > > ie_refresh on > > > I have added this line in squid.conf file but still am getting the same error. Please look at Squid Log files (error and access). Most probably your problem is in IPTable rules. HTH With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) <Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com> Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906 +91-22-56919423

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Venue for Meeting on 19th
by lists＠munshi.biz 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Greetings, What is the venue for GLUG meet at 19th? Amish.

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MySQL Architect Consultant Required
by Rehan yar Khan 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Hi, We are looking for an experienced MySQL architect on a consulting basis. Any in group please write to me. Rehan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.809 / Virus Database: 551 - Release Date: 12/9/2004

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Admin Notice: Commercial mails
by Linuxers Admin 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

When sending commercial mails to the list, please include a [Commercial] tag in the subject line. Commercial mails include but are not limited to all of the following: - For sale notices (including linux CDs/Books) - Employment notices - Offerring services The following need not be considered commercial: - Person A asks for help and person B says "I'll help you for a cup of coffee/pint of beer" -- List Admin

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rhn applet
by komal 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Hello I am using FC3. How to disable rhn-applet ? Thank you Regards, Komal

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Transparent proxy with Iptables & Squid ERROR
by Rohit Baisakhiya 13 Dec '04

13 Dec '04

Hello Luggers, I have a setup of single box running WhiteBox Linux 3.0 with squid & iptables. The iptables setup is :- i forward all incomming connections to 80 port from local users to squid proxy server with rules: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -s ! 192.168.0.1 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.1:3128 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -s 192.168.0.0/24 -d 192.168.0.1 -j SNAT --to 192.168.0.1 iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.0.0/24 -d 192.168.0.2 -i eth0 -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 8080 -j ACCEPT I have allowed localhost and 192.168.0.0/24 network in squid acl config.Now my problem is that when every any host tries to browse any site the following error is shown by squid If i hit http://www.yahoo.com/ in browser i get ========================================== ERROR The requested URL could not be retrieved -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- While trying to retrieve the URL: / The following error was encountered: Invalid URL Some aspect of the requested URL is incorrect. Possible problems: Missing or incorrect access protocol (should be `http://'' or similar) Missing hostname Illegal double-escape in the URL-Path Illegal character in hostname; underscores are not allowed Your cache administrator is root. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Generated Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:27:24 GMT by pdc.larchtech.com (squid/2.5.STABLE3) ==================================================== Does anybody have any idea how do i correct this. Regards, Rohit Baisakhiya

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Mono Session on 19th Dec
by Amish Munshi 13 Dec '04

13 Dec '04

Greetings, Following poll is still available at http://forum.ilug-bom.org.in, we have received 53 votes. I would be closing the poll in 2 days. If you still need+to vote for a topic please do so asap. Which of the following topics will interest you the most for GLUG meet? How mono works? 30% (16 votes) Philosophy behind mono/.NET and their legal and social issues? 15% (8 votes) How to setup mono with apache for ASP.NET? 11% (6 votes) Database access with mono 6% (3 votes) Creating GUI apps with mono. 26% (14 votes) Develop on Visual Studio.NET and deploy on Apache/Mono 11% (6 votes) Total votes: 53 Amish.

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[COMMERCIAL] Wanted Perl-C binding Trainer/Consultant
by Gautam Mani 13 Dec '04

13 Dec '04

Hi, I work for Roamware (http://www.roamware.com) and we need a consultant/trainer for a project involving Perl-C bindings. The responsibility is to help the team resolve the issues they have in the current project. Please respond off the list to gautam.mani (at) roamware.com Thanks, Gautam

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(INFO) LPI certification tutorials
by lawrence_d＠sifycorp.com 13 Dec '04

13 Dec '04

Hi Luggers, Here is a link for all those certification junkies - LPI 101 and 102 tutorials from IBM developerWorks. http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/l-dw-linux-lpir21-i.html?S_TACT=1…

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Ilug-Bom list RSS Feed now available
by Parag Mehta 13 Dec '04

13 Dec '04

Hi all fellow gnuers i have enabled RSS feeds on the Yahoo groups for our mailing list and it is now available: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-bom/rss ~Parag

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Cheapest Laptop
by Harshal Vaidya 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

> Most laptops here are sold with wifi 11b standards > which are slow and outdated. Only toshiba and zenith > have wifi 11g. That is almost 6 times faster and is > now the standard in all laptops in western markets. 11b has a throughput of 11mbps which is more than enough for any broadband service which is operating in India currently. Moreover all 11g devices (of what I know) are all backward compatible to 11b. ===== Harshal Vaidya. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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Gateway Firewall before router
by Mangesh V Rakhunde 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

Hi Friends I want to put a linux firewall between all LAN PCs and the router. In this setup I dont want to use valid IP as I am short of it. Can you give me some ideas to do it. Regards Mangesh

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linux server crashed .......why?
by anthony fernandes 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

hi friends, i have installed a linux redhat 9 as a server. it runs proxy and samba. it also has 2 thin clients. and 2 windows clients. now just a few days back, the file system crashed. i had to load and configure the whole thing again. can some explain to me why this happened as from next time i can take precautionary measures. thanks a lot. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com

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RHCE
by Nadiem 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

Hello Everyone, I am planning to give the RHCE in January next year. I need some inputs regarding the questions asked in past examinations. Is there any way by which I could get those question papers ? Also, any tips from members who have already given the RHCE would be appreciated. I don't want to lose Rs 9,500/- in a single day. :-) Regards, Nadiem. --- "Free as in free speech, not free beer" - Richard M. Stallman --- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Reg new forum
by Pankaj Dekate 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

Hi , With regards to the polls in the forums on the lug site I have observed that a guest is allowed to vote. That too a guest is allowed to vote as many times as he wants to a particular poll. I guess this is not the functionality which we would want. Can we have only the registered users to vote for any polls? TIA, Pankaj

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Cheapest Laptop
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

On Sunday 12 December 2004 03:41, Harshal Vaidya wrote: > > Most laptops here are sold with wifi 11b standards > > which are slow and outdated. Only toshiba and zenith > > have wifi 11g. That is almost 6 times faster and is > > now the standard in all laptops in western markets. > > 11b has a throughput of 11mbps which is more than > enough for any broadband service which is operating in > India currently. Moreover all 11g devices (of what I > know) are all backward compatible to 11b. All the wireless "standards" are pathetic. Very high latency, and low bandwidth utilisation with even moderate number of users connected or distance beyond 25 mtrs (i have done some bit of testing). I prefer to carry a cross & straight cable any day (most offices have a lan point within reach). The 11G thingy is anything but standard for now. Wireless lan is great for experiments with mobile voice apps etc.- not daily use. Me thinks it will be 2 yrs before wireless lans become reliable and useful.By then the current crop of peripherals will be hazardous pollutants. However 11g on a point to point link over a distance of a few kilometers is very good - 4 to 24 Mbps.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Cheapest Laptop
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

On Saturday 11 December 2004 10:09, Trevor Warren wrote: > Anandtech.com has some good reviews of the > processors. These processors have the following > > specs: > > 90 nm die > > 4-8 cores on each cpu > > Each core having 4Ghz + crunching power > > Intercore B/w of 4.5Ghz + ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ actually that is what makes the power pc really great. Easy scalability by simply putting more processors on the same die. Even the low end devices have bus speeds of 200mhz. Debain and Yellowdog both work with powerpc. There are several embedded boards which run uclinux. And ofcourse some of the Apple Power Macs (with pci bus) can run linux. But as of now u cant beat the x86 arch on price. Considering the fact that i would require support from a laptop mfg cause his mobo/peripheral combo is some closed design, I might be better off buying off the shelf lowpower mobo, battery + charger and laptop lcd and throw them into a small briefcase. I would easily save 40% on the cost and have better performance and (self) service. Also most of the warranties are carry in (onsite costs about 5% more). It is easier to find a component vendor than a service center in most places. Regarding Taiwanese mfg as Saswata points out all mobo roads lead to China a few to south east asia (IBM and Dell included). But Dlink (Goa Ponda), and Kobian (Daman) have plants in India.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Cheapest Laptop
by Saswata Banerjee 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> wrote: __________ > > >Saswata, > > Toshiba-IBM-Acer could be good options to look at. I >can vouch for the in-capability and unprofessionalism >at Zenith to be able to cater to customer problems. Actually the after sales support for zenith depends on whom you buy from since dealers / resellers mostly do the service for you. I have a very good supplier. His response time to compaints at my father and 2 friends was about half day. Zenith depends on its dealers to provide first line of support and get it to zenith for serious problems. Similar to assembled pcs. Moral : don't bargain unnesessarily on pricing, let him make that 1500 margin unmolested and you are likely to get good service. > > As for Zenith, he just gets the whole laptop in a >CKD form from Taiwan to his plant in goa, gets out the >screw drivers and assembles the same. These laptops >are most probably from the same stables as your >Gateway/HIS/Low end Taiwanese manufacturers stables. The entire world buys from taiwanese, so that per se is not bad. Anyway, no components are manufactured in india, all come from abroad. Apart from the ibm assembly plant at pondiocheri, there are no other manufacturing units in the country. >Stay away from these taiwanese look a likes since its >less on the quality that worries me.......but largely >its Zeniths approach to after sales service. > > Also, support for Gnu-Linux on these laptops would >surely be and added benefit. > >Trevor > > >===== >|------|____________________________________|------| >( >- / Scaling FreeSoftware & OpenSource \ -< ) >/~\ / In the Enterprise \ /~\ >| \) \ | www.fsf.org | www.opensource.org | / (/ | >|_|_ \____________________________________/ _|_| > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Dress up your holiday email, Hollywood style. Learn more. >http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com > >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Cheapest Laptop
by Trevor Warren 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

Saswata, Toshiba-IBM-Acer could be good options to look at. I can vouch for the in-capability and unprofessionalism at Zenith to be able to cater to customer problems. As for Zenith, he just gets the whole laptop in a CKD form from Taiwan to his plant in goa, gets out the screw drivers and assembles the same. These laptops are most probably from the same stables as your Gateway/HIS/Low end Taiwanese manufacturers stables. Stay away from these taiwanese look a likes since its less on the quality that worries me.......but largely its Zeniths approach to after sales service. Also, support for Gnu-Linux on these laptops would surely be and added benefit. Trevor ===== |------|____________________________________|------| ( >- / Scaling FreeSoftware & OpenSource \ -< ) /~\ / In the Enterprise \ /~\ | \) \ | www.fsf.org | www.opensource.org | / (/ | |_|_ \____________________________________/ _|_| __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Dress up your holiday email, Hollywood style. Learn more. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com

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Re: RHCE
by Subhamoy Mukherjee 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

Hi All, Something to mention about RHCE. As someone mentioned earlier 'it's nice to prepare for RHCE' but after getting certified I think the market is still not prepared for a RHCE. For eg. I completed RHCE on August 2004 but still waiting for a good option. There is no adv. in the newspaper Appointments asking for RHCE. So what's the good in going for so much effort. -- Subhamoy

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Cheapest Laptop
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

Which is the cheapest laptop available? Should run linux ofcourse. I need to purchase one for general field use.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Cheapest Laptop
by Saswata Banerjee 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> wrote: __________ > >Hello JTD, > > With IBM jettisioning it's PC division things don't >look too good for other manufacturers too but luckily >as i hear laptops are a different story. Let me >forewarn you that i am not in anyway an advocate for >classy brands but in this case it pays to safe than be >sorry. > > IBM and Dell in india is the best that money can get. I thought laptops were a part of the pc division of ibm sold to the chineese. Don't use dell. You are dpendent on dell to service you. Unless you are a large corporate, you will need to go down on knees and beg for service. Dell does not support linux on laptops. Hp and ibm you can get service from multiple support centers and they officially sell laptops with linux preloaded. The linux loaded laptops are cheaper by at least 7k. Acer is also good, cheap and supports linux. So does toshiba - yesterday's advt 50k or so. Have a look at zenith laptops. Their quality is suprisingly good. I speak from experiance of friends. >And as for Gnu-Linux - BSD, you should be able get any >freaking GPL'ed application running on them without a >hitch. Make sure you get wifi support since thats the >norm if you will be travelling to europe/us. Most laptops here are sold with wifi 11b standards which are slow and outdated. Only toshiba and zenith have wifi 11g. That is almost 6 times faster and is now the standard in all laptops in western markets. Saswata

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help req for networking
by Pankaj Dekate 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

Hi linuxers, I am a newbie to networking and am keen to learn networking in linux. The only resource i have is a single computer.Is it possible to setup and test firewalls and mail servers and other servers only using a single comp using the loopback address.Or can i try using two network cards on a single comp? Can I assign two ip address to a single ethernet interface.Please let me know if i can learn using a single comp as i cannot afford to join any course or purchase another comp to learn it. TIA, Pankaj

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[Commercial] PERL Trainers urgently required
by OSPOnline 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

We need to immediately conduct a 30 hrs PERL Training for one of our clients. Those interested may kindly get in touch with the undersigned and mail their profiles to admin(a)ospians.com. -- Regards, Aishwarya (Mobile: 98208 79303)

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Cheapest Laptop
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

On Saturday 11 December 2004 08:24, Trevor Warren wrote: > Hello JTD, > > With IBM jettisioning it's PC division things don't > look too good for other manufacturers too but luckily That should free their PCs from M$tax. And according to some pundits allow IBM to push non intel architectures (Power PC). The power pc cpus provide a range of watts/mips combinations which beat intel cpus hands down on both counts and can be used in small embedded stuff all the way upto large clusters - running GNU/Linux. So they have a complete software environment at zero cost. All they need is a system cost comparable to the i386 arch. Bet the chinese will deliver. So get ready to see a whole new range of innovative products. Thanks for the feedback on laptops. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mono Session on 19th Dec
by Miguel de Icaza 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

Hello, Now here a lot of people may ask why there are two projects with the same goal ... the thing is that the DotGNU people earlier have tried to merge the two projects together but all they got were verbal volleys from our very favourite Miguel de Icaza. The main problem at the moment is that the Mono guys (read Novell) doesn't want to have Mono under a Free Software license and they also recently changed their library licensing from LGPL to MIT's X11 license to make it more unrestrictive. The reality is much more complicated than that. Both teams have invested heavily in their own stacks, and neither group is willing to throw away they work that they have produced. To that mix, you can add the licensing piece, which has two elements: * Novell licenses the Mono source code for proprietary applications, very much in the same way that Qt, MySQL and Berkeley DB are relicensed, because they allow us to fund the work of Mono while still contributing it to the free software world. It would be ideal if all software wrote itself and we had many more contributors working for free, but today thanks to this licensing model we are able to fund 25 developers to work full time on Mono. * The .NET technologies are a source of great debate in the open source world, and adding to the mix the fears that people have over the GPL and the LGPL makes things worse. The particular problem is that there is room for "interpretation" in the case of the GNU LGPL about what a "derivative works" is in the presence of an OO library. If you make a subclass of a Mono library and override a method, is it a "derivative work"? Lets say: class MyApp : Window { ... } Reasonable people will have different opinions. Now, the matter is more complex since it is not about a given lawyer opinion. The problem is that every contributor has the right to interpret what "derivative works" means. Each one is entitled to his opinion, and it means that proprietary developers would risk having their source violate the license. The choices were to invent a new license, or pick something trusted, so we decided to go with the license that gives you the most freedom to maximize adoption and minimize fear. Mono is about brining new software to the Linux world, and bringing ISVs to Linux is something we consider very important. They also plan to sell Mono to companies under proprietary licenses if they want to. Talking about technical issues, DotGNU is faster than Mono as Mono is self hsoting (written in C# itself) and Mono also has a very weird approach towards implementing the Windows.Forms thingy ... The speed issue is incorrect. The MONO VM is among the fastest VMs out there, we are now close to matching the Microsoft.NET one as we have been working on very advanced optimizations based on SSA: SSAPRE, Arrays Bound Check elimination and in general our JIT has been tuned during two and a half years. DotGNU today has a tuned interpreter, but a tuned native code generator is better. You might be referring to the speed of the C# compiler, but here you are comparing apples versus oranges, let me explain why: * The PNet compiler is not a complete C# 1.0 compiler. One day, it will get there, but it is not there today. Speed wise, they do not implement definite assignment, which is a very computationally expensive operation, so it is easy to be fast if you do not flag every error or every warning. * Mono's C# compiler is not only C# 1.0 compliant, but implements about 70% of the C# 2.0 stuff today, including generics which on its own took a year to develop and tune. * Mono's C# compiler *can* be made faster, and even match the speed of cscc if you precompile all your assemblies with all optimizations like this: for i in $prefix/lib/mono/gac/*/*dll; do mono --aot -O=all $a done Do the same for mcs.exe they have done it using Wine whereas DotGNU only needs X to run Windows.Forms What Mono seems to me at the moment is that it's just a C# development environment for GNU/Linux and doesn't intend to be 100% compatible with MS .Net ... they are trying to push GTk# instead of Windows.Forms ... who'll use GTk# if Windows.Forms works perfectly ? As DotGNU's implementation of Windows.Forms is incomplete, and so is Mono's new implementation. You can not run any existing commercial application with either of them. Both will mature, but you wont be able to show me any commercial app running on either today. We are working on a new implementation of Windows.Forms, that follows the same approach the DotGNU people took. There are four full-time developers working on it so we will soon have something ready for production use. Now, I do believe that Windows.Forms has many flaws, specially for open source software as it does not work well with translation to different languages nor do the applications "just-work" in different languages like Gtk# applications do. This is important to support open source programs that work in many languages. We consider Windows.Forms to be important to bring Windows developers to Linux, but our path to independence is really using a toolkit that came out of the open source world and works well with other open source efforts. Witness the effort of Gnome India and how well it supports every script available, or how it supports Hebrew and Arabic without changing a line in the software. Windows.Forms just can not cope with this. far as DotGNU is concerned, GTk# or any free software libs can be easily made to work with DotGNU's Portable .Net. The fact that Gopal V, one of the major contributors to the DotGNU project ported the Portable .Net to the Encore Simputer in 3 hours flat on Linux Bangalore/2004 this time bears testimony of the portability issue. DotGNU support for Gtk# will definitely mature in the future, and I wish them good luck, but they are nowhere the stability or completeness of Mono. They can screenshot applications, but they wont be able to run the more complex apps like F-Spot, Beagle, MonoDevelop or even Monodoc. As for portability, porting an interpreter is very easy. Barely anything more than "configure; make; make install". In fact, you should be able to run Mono on the Encore Simputer as well, since we support the ARM processor in our interpreter. We are now working on a JIT engine for the StrongARM, so that will give you also a nice performance boost. While I don't intend to demean Mono in any way, I dislike their attitude towards the Freedom aspect in general and the DotGNU project in particular. (Rhys Weatherley and others have relicensed DotGNU code to Mono under their MIT's X11 license but the reverse has not happened till date). The DotGNU project needs our help and it's time we got our facts right and decided whom we should support. I would not have replied, but "its time we got our facts right" annoys me, because your post is miss-informed and far from having the facts right. What you have heard is a bunch of half-facts. You are wrong about that. DotGNU has taken large chunks of Mono code under the MIT X11 and distributes it as part of their runtime (RegularExpressions, XmlSerialization) both which are very complex pieces of code. They also ship our class libraries for any high-level features, so they tend to be behind Mono. Good luck, Miguel.

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RHCE doubts Linux networking resource advice
by BIJU KRISHNAN 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

There's no use becoming an RHCE the usual way...go thru dumps...! You wont find any dumps although...! I'am an RHCT.....i got 85 % in the exam but was not granted an RHCE coz i didnt get 70% in the RHCE part I gave the exam on RH 9.0 so there must have been massive changes since then..! The fun is in preparing for RHCE and not giving it...dont worry abt losing money OR failing...be prepared to loose it the first time...and my bet is that u would atleast fare well if not with a high score..! The catch is that if u have a good hands on exp in the industry in a live env...RHCE is a simple exam if not...then u would have work really really hard..! RHCE has not much value if u cant answer interview questions..! As for the question from one of our members as to whether we could learn networking with one machine...well yes..! Use a PC emulator...with bridged OR host networking...! VMWARE and BOSCH are two popular ones..! Take a cable net connection and u'll definitely get a big LAN to sniff arnd..! I have learnt a lot with the big LAN we have got...i spend time sniffing arnd...! www.yolinux.com is a good place for beginners..! bye rgds bijuCyborg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com

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[ILUG-BOM] [Commercial] PHP Developers (FT/PT), Graphics/Print designers
by Nitin Putcha 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

Greetings all, If you've read the latest issue of LFY, you know who I represent (shameless plug)! My organization, ITM is a group of business schools. We are involved in the following projects for which we are looking for talented people on FT/PT or free-lance basis: - PHP scripting for website content management - eLearning Platform development - Small Database projects - Web Design - Print/Visual Graphics Design Please email me at nitin[at]itm.edu for details. Thanks! Nitin Putcha

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Strange! KPPP Works...
by Rony Bill 10 Dec '04

10 Dec '04

I found an old CD of Mandrake 8.1 in my collection so I installed it. Somehow after restart its X11 did not function so I put in the RHEL CD1 and reloaded it without selecting any packages and no hdd formatting except delete the new Mandrake partition. It loaded smoothly and I found my system intact but the modem would not get detected. So the modem was uninstalled using rpm -e package_name. Then the rpm was reinstalled. Now the KPPP (with its existing settings) opens up the websites and email without going through the ritual of first starting 'Network Device Control'. This is strange but I am happy. Regards, Rony.

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Commercial - Need PHP Programmers
by Manish Kumar Jain 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

Hello, We are a Software Architectural firm based at New Delhi. We are operating in two regions of India - North and West. We provide expertise in Application Development, Animations, Multimedia Applications, Web Development and IT Consultancy. We have some openings in our company for IT professionals. I have detailed below the skill sets we are looking for on an immediate basis: Job Description: Technical Lead - Ref. No. TL-07 Desired Qualifications: B.E. / MCA from a reputed college/university in Electronics/Computers. Additional certifications on technologies from Microsoft would be an added advantage Technical Skill Sets: Linux, Apache, MySQL, *PHP, HTML, Javascript, VB, C, C++, ASP, XML, Desired Profile: Requirement analysis, Feasibility study, Designing & Developing applications. Building, testing and de-bugging functionalities, Documentation. Work Experience: Senior Developers - 2-3 years experience Project Leaders - 3-5 years experience Freshers with ability to work sincerely with team spirit and initiativeness. Interviews: Mail at - jobs(a)beanarchitect.com Note: Incomplete resumes will not be considered. Please mention the Ref. No. as above in the subject line of your mail. *Essential. I request the candidates to revert back by mailing their recent Resume's soon at - jobs(a)beanarchitect.com and please visit www.beanarchitect.com for further details. Manish Kumar Jain (Business Head) +91-98117 55502 - New delhi +91-98201 56561 - Mumbai Bean eArchitect Private Limited Head Office: #44, 'Bahubali Enclave', I.P. Ext - II, Vikas Marg, New Delhi 110092 Tel.: 91 11 2237 2790 / 96 Mumbai Office: #11, "F" Type Market, Sector 3/4, Vashi, Navi Mumbai 400703 Tel.: 91 22 2782 1617 Manish Kumar Jain (Business Head) +91-98117 55502 - New delhi +91-98201 56561 - Mumbai Bean eArchitect Private Limited Head Office: #44, 'Bahubali Enclave', I.P. Ext - II, Vikas Marg, New Delhi 110092 Tel.: 91 11 2237 2790 / 96 Mumbai Office: #11, "F" Type Market, Sector 3/4, Vashi, Navi Mumbai 400703 Tel.: 91 22 2782 1617

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[ Announce ] LPI Paper Test
by SeekingGyan 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

Hello Group got this mail from Novell . Thanks Harsh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear All, We are happy to announce that the next LPI paper exams are scheduled for 17th Dec 2004. Please take the advantage of this opportunity. Please inform your friends about the same. Pleas feel free to call/mail fo more details. Regards Khushal 093210 27218 Details are as follows.... Date : 17th Dec 2004 Time : 11.00 AM to 12.30 PM Exams Available : LPIC 1 : LPI 101 and LPI 102 LPIC 2 : LPI 201 and LPI 202 Fee : Rs 1800/- per exam per attempt Mode : Paper Exam Venue : Onward Novell Software I Pvt Ltd 62, MIDC, 13th Street Andheri(E), Mumbai- 93 India Contact Person : Ms Doreen D'souza doreen(a)novell.com 022-28342244 Last date for the registration : 15 Dec 2004 Mode of registration: Payment of Rs 1800/- per exam with the LPI registration form attached.[ For more details on LPI, Please read the attached mail]. Payment should be made in CASH/DD[ drawn in the name of "Onward Novell Software (I) Pvt Ltd" payable at Mumbai]. Special Instructions : Please ensure that you have LPI ID ready with you. This can be obtained from the free registration on https://www.lpi.org/en/register.html . About LPI Please visit lpi.org Important Guidelines for LPI Test Registrations 1. Obtain LPI Identification Number. Pls. visit https://www.lpi.org/en/register.html and register yourself. 2. Your ID will be created and an email will be sent to you to confirm your LPI ID, visit https://www.lpi.org/en/members/overview.html 3. Notify the Test Administrator atleast 10 days in advance prior to appearing for the LPI tests at the desired ONSIL location. Please fill in the attached Registration Form and send it to the test administrator together with your payment by Cash/demand draft in favor of Onward Novell Software India Pvt. Ltd. at the desired location. 4. Please carry two valid personal photo-identity cards for Personal Identity verification at the time of exam. viz.Passport/Credit Card/Company Identity card/driving licence/any valid govt.recognised photo identity. Candidates will not be allowed to appear for LPI tests in absence of valid identity proof.

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New discussion forum for ILUG-BOM !
by Anurag Patel 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

Hello, We are now testing a new discussion forum for Ilug-Bom. Visit < http://forum.ilug-bom.org.in > and sign up to participate in the discussions and vote for the topics. http://forum.ilug-bom.org.in -Anurag

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Website Architect & MySQL Architect required
by Rehan yar Khan 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

Hi, For our PHP ecommerce website redevelopment, we are looking for a experienced consulting Framework architect. We are also looking for an experienced consulting Database architect, with experience in MySQL. Please do contact me. Thanks, Rehan

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Hathway under Fedora Core 3
by ~~~ Rohan ~~~ 08 Dec '04

08 Dec '04

Hi, I am going to install Fedora Core 3. My knoppix system detected my cable modem (Askey Cable Modem, provided by hathway for cable internet) properly and configured it right. I have plugged the modem is USB and no etthernet or lan link is provided. It is correctly dtected as a network adapter/device in Knoppix and Windows XP. However, suse linux 9.1 personal detects it as a dial up modem rather than a network device. Will it work in Fedora? Any tips/known issues? Thank You, Rohan.

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CVS: view a particular version
by Nikhil Joshi 08 Dec '04

08 Dec '04

Hi! cvs update -r1.2 myfile fetches the 1.2 version of myfile Is there any way to just view the 1.2 version so that i can redirect the output to some other file? -- "It's great to have a friend who appreciates an earnest discussion of ideas." -Calvin

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Keyboard driver downloadable
by Sachin A Chavan 08 Dec '04

08 Dec '04

Dear all, Now you can download keyboard driver from my website. http://www.aspirants.everywebhost.com/ currently three languages are supported Devanagari Gujarati and Bengali all for transliteration input. So updates will be on this website only with documentation Bye -Sachin

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A report on Open Source Software.
by risqer 07 Dec '04

07 Dec '04

Hi, I think this might be useful for newbies and experts alike.Its a "7.86 MB" download but worth it. Here's the link ----> http://www.csc.com/features/2004/uploads/LEF_OPENSOURCE.pdf Have a good time!

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Hi.
by ~~~ Rohan ~~~ 07 Dec '04

07 Dec '04

Hi, I am a new member out here. Can anyone staying near Vile Parle (EAST) give me the CDs of Fedora Core 3? At what prcie? Please email me at rohandhruva(a)gmail.com or reply here itself. Thanks, Rohan. @moderator: Sorry, that disclaimer is just to have a legalese look for my email. :) it can, in no way, be presented in the court of law. thank you anyway :).

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] New discussion forum for ILUG-BOM !
by Homyar_Bhathena 07 Dec '04

07 Dec '04

Pune GNU/Linux Users Group - http://plug.org.in/ -----Original Message----- From: linuxers-bounces(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in [mailto:linuxers-bounces@mm.ilug-bom.org.in] On Behalf Of Anil Gupte Sent: 06 December 2004 21:27 To: GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] New discussion forum for ILUG-BOM ! Thank you all who responded to the Salary Survey question. I could not reply earlier because I stopped getting mail for some reason. However, I read the archives. Seems like there was quite a range - 7.5K to 20K pm! Anyway, if anyone has any more inputs I will welcome them. What is this about the new forum? Is this going to replace the list? I would suggest that if you have a proper web site for this group, it would be nice to allow job postings and partnership opportunities. As someone else on this list said, there has to be a commercial component to any group. If the "Homebrew Computer Club" had no commercial component we would not have had Apple. It happened because Jobs the marketer, met Wozniak the inventor. Also, is there a Linux group in Pune? Thanx, Anil Gupte

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HDD INSTALLATION HOW-TO................
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 07 Dec '04

07 Dec '04

Dear Rony /Rohit, ( Both R's ........) Shailesh here .... IF U have difficulty reading this mail copy the entire contents and paste in gedit or Notepad for that reason Syntaxs are important please note.... FEDORA/Red-Hat is assumed here If U want to to go for HDD installation completely ( say No cdrom at all to boot) and no linux at all First Boot thru Linux Rescue Disk ( a bootable Floppy available easily) U got to mount the partition containing the images somewhere mkdir /mnt/source # needed to mount the partition containing iso images mkdir /mnt/cd1 # needed to mount the iso image itself mount /dev/hd?? /mnt/source cd /mnt/source # Note :cd1.iso is the name of Ur firstcd image ( Say ) mount /mnt/source/cd1.iso /mnt/cd1 -o loop,ro cd /mnt/cd1 here U will find a directory called images, do cd to that ls boot.img now U got to prepare Ur installation Disk , Keep a Good Floppy ready.... dd if=boot.img of=/dev/fd0 it will give output something like 2880 records in and 2880 records out Note both counts should be same else there is some error while writing the floppy, change it. IF U get both counts same U have Ur installation image ready get out of LRD cd / umount /mnt/cd1 umount /mnt/source reboot Ur Machine and boot from the newly created floppy If every thing written above and done by U is ok U will find Redhat installer boot prompt at boot prompt give linux askmethod press enter it will boot and U will have to some inputs After it will ask the medium U want to boot from choose harddisk now it will list all Ur partition choose the partition containing the images.......... if U have kept the images in some directory do specify the same in the second field If the images are in root of the partition do not give anything here Press enter or OK ( WHATEVER ......) If every thing is fine " THE INSTALLATION PROCESS SHOULD BEING ........" (GOD BLESS US ) Please Forgive ME if I have left have something because I am writing this mail from my working place at about 1:30 AM ( YES A.M ) Taking help of Virtual Visual Installation in my MIND By the way I have habit of Forgetting Things.................... If U get the installer running after this All these keystrokes are worth the effort else ............. whatelse.......... Put another mail buddy............. Bye for Now, NOT WAITING FOR UR MAIL ( Hoping U will get success ) AMEN Shailesh ===== Technology is driving Me CRAZIER .... But Who said I Want To Be SANE !!!! Original Author of Signature :Shailesh.S.Mahadik (ssmahadik(a)yahoo.com) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Bengali transliteration input support added
by Sachin A Chavan 06 Dec '04

06 Dec '04

Dear all, Once again! I have added Bengali transliteration input support to my keyboard driver. Features : It Works on a) OfficeSuites : OpenOffice KOffice (Tested On SuSe 9.2) Ok b) Web Browser : Konqueror (Tested on SuSe 9.2) Ok including all GNOME and KDE applications. GNOME >= 2.4 KDE >= 3.1.4 So if anybody wants mail me at sacindia1(a)rediffmail.com -Sachin

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OT commercial expertise on VMWARE
by noel seq 06 Dec '04

06 Dec '04

Hi, A friend of mine from bangalore needed some expertise on VMWARE . If there is someone on this list who can do the same on commercial basis, please contact me offlist. Noel _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss out on jobs that are not advertised. http://goindia.msnserver.com/IN/55250.asp Post your CV on naukri.com today.

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[Commercial] Perl Trainers required
by Optimal Solutions 06 Dec '04

06 Dec '04

We urgently need to conduct a 30 hrs Perl Programming training for one of our clients. Those interested may mail their profiles off the list to [1]admin(a)ospians.com at the earliest. -- Regards, Aishwarya (Mobile: 98208 79303) _________________________________________________________________ VeriProfile. [2]Now verify your partner's profile on BharatMatrimony.com References 1. mailto:admin@ospians.com 2. http://g.msn.com/8HMBENIN/2731??PS=47575

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[Commercial : Openings for Perl/C, Java, JSP]
by Krishna Dagli 06 Dec '04

06 Dec '04

Hi all, We have urgent requirements for programmers having some basic experience in following areas: 1) Java : Core java, jsp and servlets. (SQL added advantage) 2) Perl and C. (Socket and interprocess communication is a must.) 3) VB (Sorry to put this on lug) : ActiveX, COM. Please send your CVs to kdagli(a)infofin.com. Regards Krishna.

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Required Fedora core 3 cds
by Pankaj Dekate 06 Dec '04

06 Dec '04

Hi linuxers, I require Fedora core3 cds.Can anyone lend me for a day or two? I stay in Santacruz(e).Anyone staying nearby and having Fedora core3? Mail me off the list and we can decide the time and place to meet. TIA, Pankaj Ps : I don't have a DVD reader.so no DVD please.

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Copying DVD's with kb3 - IO errors
by Shahed 06 Dec '04

06 Dec '04

Hi all, I am trying to copy dvds with kb3, but I keep getting I/O errors. Even when I try to use a simple cp -R * /tmp on the dvd mount, it copies a few files and then I get a load of I/O errors. However, the dvd is fine, as I am able to view its contents. I am using Suse Linux 9.2, and I am not sure where to look for the problem. Could it be the dvd driver ? Or is it something kernel related ? Any ideas on what could be the problem would be appriciated. Thanks Shahed.

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Re: how to install from hdd....
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 06 Dec '04

06 Dec '04

Dear Rohit, I have done many such installations ( I was forced ..) (Necessity is the MOTHER of INVENTION they say ....) Infact I always prefer HDD installation cause they are much faster and don't require Cd changing also U need to create a the ISO images of the Cd's and place them in one partition.( u can use a seperate directory too....) Type may be FAT or EXT ( avoid NTFS) U must now the partition naming convention eg /dev/hdc1 ,/dev/hda5 ... Since U have opted the HDD installation I assume U know the way to get there... Regarding making the ISO.... U can use X-Cdroast if u know and are comfortable.. If u don't have a Gnu/Linux machine up.. Then try Knpoppix and U can find X-cdroast in it.. if U prefer command line: issue this command in the directory U want the image /dev/cdrom refers to Ur cdrom device dd if=/dev/cdrom of=FC_Disk_1.iso Note the of==output file, and U can give any name U want above is just a example (Please Choose Different Name for each Cd.. I know U know that ....Just Kidding ) Regarding Add -Remove Package.. It automatically check for CD-Rom for Disks and not where U installed from... OF-Course Unless U tweak it to do so ?? Now Once U have iso What are U waiting for then....... Start the installation........ Happy GNU-ing............. Do tell me Whether I was of any help or not .... Regards, Shailesh ===== Technology is driving Me CRAZIER .... But Who said I Want To Be SANE !!!! Original Author of Signature :Shailesh.S.Mahadik (ssmahadik(a)yahoo.com) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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KPPP Problem solved
by Rony Bill 05 Dec '04

05 Dec '04

The problem of no site opening in KPPP has been resolved, although I don't know if the method is right. After a bootup, the 'Network Device Control' has to be called up first to activate any of the dialup accounts ppp0, ppp1, ppp2 ....The modem will dial to the ISP and then the sites open. The connection should be now closed to run kppp. Closing this connection is also tricky as it is never shown as 'active', either the RedHat software has bugs or its the third party modem driver problem, I really don't know. So a trick method was tried and it works. The 'activate' button is clicked for the same active connection and that interrupts the modem to start dialing again. As it starts dialling, click the 'activate' button again and this time the window waits. Immediately click on the 'X' button on the top right corner to simply close the window. This stops the dialing. Come out of 'N D C' and then use kppp as if nothing ever was wrong, till you reboot again. Regards, Rony.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Qt Licence and GTK.
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

On Saturday 04 December 2004 09:42, Srinivasan Krishnan wrote: > On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 23:32, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > On Friday 03 December 2004 08:40, Srinivasan Krishnan wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 06:28, risqer wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Is Qt free now, I mean"free as in speech" ? > > > > > > Dual licenced - GPL/QPL (QT Public licence, akin to the GPL) > > > for GPL'd apps, and commercial seat based licencing for > > > commercial > > > > wrong terminology. U presume that GPL'd software are not > > commercial.GPLd applications can be very commercial. The right > > terminology would be "non GPL'd". > > > > This isn't the first time that an incorrect / misleading > > statement about GPL / commercial software has appeared on the > > list. Please take care not to mislead. > > > > > apps. Check their website for details. > > > > > >From one of their PRs > > > > "As before, any user who wishes to create proprietary or closed > > source software must first purchase a development license from > > Trolltech." > > JT, > > Please look before you leap (or comment in this case). Please read > the I have not only RTFL but written to Trolltech about the utterly misleading statement on commercial / GPL software. They replied with a wishy washy thing about trying to look into the matter (apparently they are still trying more than a year later). But the PR is very clear. > > The Qt Open Source Editions may be freely copied and distributed, > put on FTP sites and CD-ROMs, etc., under the same open-source > licenses that they are supplied with. This is completely different > from the Qt Commercial Editions which cannot be distributed at all. > > </snip> > > They state that the code content of the GPL/QPL edition is > identical to the *Commercial Edition*, but however clearly > differentiate the commercial edition by labelling it as such. That > is what I meant when I made the original post. While I have no > desire to get into a flame war over this, I wish you wouldn't use > terms like "misleading" and "incorrect" without RTFM. I stand by both statements. IMNHO Trolltech's attempt to explain the difference between GPL'd / Commercial software is misleading and incorrect and your mail does not clarify this, which is akin to "agreement". The fact is that GPL'd software can be very commercial and can be distributed for any consideration deemed fit except changing the terms of the GPL. (just hoped into flame proof shelter ;-). rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Salary Survey
by Devdas Bhagat 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

On 04/12/04 19:49 +0000, Saswata Banerjee wrote: > List Admin, > > this thread is more important to the community than many of the other > discussions that are taking place. All discussions should remain in the > group and not offline. I would normally expect such surveys to be summarised by the OP. Devdas Bhagat

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Salary Survey
by Saswata Banerjee 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

List Admin, this thread is more important to the community than many of the other discussions that are taking place. All discussions should remain in the group and not offline. Don't forget that linux has as much commercial aspect as proprietory software has. Regard saswata Linuxers Admin <linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> wrote: __________ >Before this thread gets out of hand, please consider if your reply is >relevant to the community as a whole from a FOSS pov. The original >poster did ask for replies to be sent directly to him, please do that >instead of mailing the list on this thread. > >-- >List Admin > >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Qt Licence and GTK.
by risqer 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

Hi, Is Qt free now, I mean"free as in speech" ? And is GTK better than Qt ? Thanks for help. -- Regards, Saurabh Sawant. (risqer).

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Salary Survey
by Raseel Bhagat 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

i agree with Biju. The deal is that programmers working on Windows Platform,with a year's experience gets 20Ktake home plus perks and benefits. If the Linuxenthusiasts gets lessdough then his Windows counterpart, no matter what you say about sharin' and open source, or whatever, its gonna serve as a detterent to him and thus to the FLOSS,etc. movements also. I say this because I have gone through this stage, and though now I am a wiser, a couple of years ago,I was ready to put Linux as nothing but just a hobby cuz "out there" no one seemed to pay you enough for it. On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 BIJU KRISHNAN wrote : >The Salary shd be no less than 12k take home if the guys exceptionally talented, no need for much exp. > >A good C on GNU-Linux\Unix programmer with one year exp shd get no less than 20,000 take home. > >Tests and interviews shd be kept rigourous but salary shd not be a compromise for the right talent. > >The above statements are my personal opinion. > >bye rgds > >bijuCyborg > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Raseel Bhagat

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Salary Survey
by BIJU KRISHNAN 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

The Salary shd be no less than 12k take home if the guys exceptionally talented, no need for much exp. A good C on GNU-Linux\Unix programmer with one year exp shd get no less than 20,000 take home. Tests and interviews shd be kept rigourous but salary shd not be a compromise for the right talent. The above statements are my personal opinion. bye rgds bijuCyborg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[Commercial] Perl & C++ Consulting
by Saswata Banerjee & Associates 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

Hi My collegues at Pragati Software (who are in Corporate Training, Including Linux) have received an urgent request from one of their clients for help is solving a specific problem involving interworking between Perl and C / C++. The work is estimated at between 1-2 days presence at client office. We Quote below specific portion of the mail from the client. "I am specifically looking for help on interworking between Perl and C/C++. I want to be able to call Perl modules/subroutines and pass parameters from C/C++ programs and from those subroutines/modules I need to call the C/C++ class/function and pass parameters. My basic objective is to make an C/C++ application externally scriptable. Perl provides an excellent method for that (XS, SWIG, perlguts, perlembed, perlapi, etc.). However, if you have any other suggestions, I am open to them as well." The person should be able to solve their problem and train the programers on how to do it in future. If anyone on the group is capable of undertaking this assignment, please immediately call : Mrs. Preeti Sharma, Director, Pragati Software Pvt. Ltd. Mob: 98202 93357 email: preeti.sharma(a)pragatisoftware.com Regards saswata

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Chat on linux
by Iqbal Dehlvi 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

Dear All, Like the mailing list can we have some sort of chat IRC channel. may be it will be useful or may be it will not. seniors can think abt this. Regards ID

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Qt Licence and GTK.
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

On Friday 03 December 2004 08:40, Srinivasan Krishnan wrote: > On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 06:28, risqer wrote: > > Hi, > > Is Qt free now, I mean"free as in speech" ? > > Dual licenced - GPL/QPL (QT Public licence, akin to the GPL) for > GPL'd apps, and commercial seat based licencing for commercial wrong terminology. U presume that GPL'd software are not commercial.GPLd applications can be very commercial. The right terminology would be "non GPL'd". This isn't the first time that an incorrect / misleading statement about GPL / commercial software has appeared on the list. Please take care not to mislead. > apps. Check their website for details. >From one of their PRs "As before, any user who wishes to create proprietary or closed source software must first purchase a development license from Trolltech." rgds jtd

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[OT] Re: [ILUG-BOM] Problems with ILUG Acronym.
by Amish Mehta 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

Philip Tellis wrote: >> Sometime on Dec 3, Anurag assembled some asciibets to say: >> I'd suggest IGFLOSSUG-BOM :-) >> That way we will represent Indian GNU, Free, LIbre, OpenSource >> Software users group of Bombay !!! > That's insufficient, because you ignore the not insignificant BSD > community, so please add BSD to the list. There's also the quite large > perl, python and php communities, all of which deserve mention. And even 'Linux' itself. Amish.

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Aah Finally !!!
by Rony Bill 03 Dec '04

03 Dec '04

Dear Luggers, I finally got the printer to print a document in Open Office. The problem of pages getting ejected without printing was due to a postscript setting in the printer properties in the OO Printer Setup (./spadmin). The correct command line on OO setup for printing was lpr -P lx300 which I found out from the good site, http://www.lns.cornell.edu/public/COMP/printing/linux_print.html However the page still kept getting ejected. This problem was traced to the setting for postscript in the spadmin where the 'from driver' was changed to '1'. This finally printed the page on my lx 300. To cross check I tried 'from driver' and '2' but they ejected the page. Only postscript 1 is accepted by my printer. The print quality is terrible but this is because it is a postscript printout which is a very basic printout. OO does not support lx300 in its drivers database so only a 'generic printer' can be selected. Generic printer driver supports only postscript. Maybe the new versions of OO 1.1.3 and the preview 2.0 may have better features. Is there any way by which OO can be forced to use a system's default driver, without postscript? Regards, Rony.

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Debian on PCQuest
by Chirag Wazir 03 Dec '04

03 Dec '04

Hi all, This is just to announce that PC Quest this month has 1 DVD + 1 CD on the cover. The DVD is Debian Sarge. I haven't tried it out myself yet, but plan to do so as soon as I can make time. I dunno how they have organized it, but at first glance it seems to be a standard debian CD distro with the rest of the DVD filled with packages to install - 4.3Gb of them :-) The CD has some useful stuff for Windows - OpenOffice, Firefox, Java SDK, Eclipse etc. Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org

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[ILUG-BOM] Looking for Perl and C++ Consultancy Please Send Me the Profile
by Preeti Sharma 03 Dec '04

03 Dec '04

Dear Sir, Sorry - I should have been more explicit in my requirements. I am specifically looking for help on interworking between Perl and C/C++. I want to be able to call Perl modules/subroutines and pass parameters from C/C++ programs and from those subroutines/modules I need to call the C/C++ class/function and pass parameters. My basic objective is to make an C/C++ application externally scriptable. Perl provides an excellent method for that (XS, SWIG, perlguts, perlembed, perlapi, etc.). However, if you have any other suggestions, I am open to them as well. Could you please revise the training program accordingly? Thanks and regards, Sagar Thakur Pragati Software Pvt. Ltd. 312, Lok Center Marol Maroshi Road, Andheri East Mumbai 400 059 Ph: 2850 1583/2850 4130/2850 6329 Mob: 98202 93357 preeti.sharma(a)pragatisoftware.com Web: www.pragatisoftware.com

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how to install from hdd
by rohit bhute 03 Dec '04

03 Dec '04

I want to install FC from the harddisk. 1. For that, do I have have to copy the CDs as iso files to the harddisk or do I create a RPMS folder and stuff like that ? If iso files are required, what s/w is there to create iso from a CD ? I know only nero which gives nrg files. 2. Also will Fat32 partition suffice for this job or do I have to create a Ext2 partition ? 3. Later on, if I have to add/remove any packages, will the OS look for them in the 'old place' to speak of. I have to do it this way because my CDROM is error-prone. I prefer a corrupted file to an aborted installation. -- Take back the Web - Get Firefox Rohit V. Bhute Mumbai

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Motorola A760 configuration as modem
by Vdk khar 03 Dec '04

03 Dec '04

Hi, I have Motorola A760 mobile phone .. I want to use it as GSM Modem for mobile programming. How to configure it on Linux or Sun Solaris. Thanks... Thanks & Regards Vishwas --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.

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drivers for Intel® 82541EI Gigabit Ethernet Controller
by sel 03 Dec '04

03 Dec '04

Hi all, Needed driver for Intel� 82541EI Gigabit Ethernet Controller for RedHat 9.0 (kernel 2.4.20-8) Searched hell lot of sites,need help! asap Thanx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Open Office Printer
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 03 Dec '04

03 Dec '04

On Friday 03 December 2004 01:47, Rony Bill wrote: > Dear Luggers, > > My printer queue name is 'LX300' and device is a local printer > /dev/lp0. What command should I add in the command line for the > open office printer setup? I tried lpr, lp -d LX300, lpr -d LX300 > but nothing seems to work. In debian using cups and kprinter / xpp, replace the above with kprinter or xpp. This will run kprinter / xpp. I have tested it with hp710c, hp720c, hp4mp, hp3550 and epson lq1020. xpp is faster and provides much greater flexibility.U will have to install xprt-xprintorg and xpp if not already installed. Use debian - apt is fabulous and there is no commercial skullduggery to worry about. To be honest though I am cluless about redhat or any other distro for that matter. rgds jtd

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Gujarati Translieration input Support in OpenOffice
by Sachin A Chavan 03 Dec '04

03 Dec '04

Dear all, I have added Gujarati Transliteration input support to keyboard driver. By using this keyboard driver now you can type Gujarati by transliteration in any application on KDE and GNOME. Some of these applications are OpenOffice Koffice Kbabel Konqueror(web browser) Kate Kwrite (All these properly tested on SuSe 9.1 and RH90) These are the few names. It will work on all applications. Executables you can use and distribute to any no. of people. If anybody want can e-mail me at sacindia1(a)rediffmail.com I am making it freely available to all. Thank you -Sachin

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An Interesting Site
by Rony Bill 02 Dec '04

02 Dec '04

Here is an interesting site for Linux Questions on various topics http://www.linuxquestions.org/ Regards, Rony.

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Internet Problems
by Rony Bill 01 Dec '04

01 Dec '04

Hello Luggers, The internet access after the modem installation is quite queer. If I setup the internet conection wizard, it creates a network device ppp0 in the list, below the eth0 device. However even after dialing to my isp, it does not show the device ppp0 as active. I have 3 different ISPs so I configured them in kppp. Everything is fine and the connections take place, but when I want to go to any site it only keeps going upto 'resolving host' and does not find the site. If I use the network device control and click on activate for the ppp0, it dials and gives me access to the net but still is shown as 'inactive'. As a result of this I cannot close my connection. I have used RedHat 8 in my other comp earlier with multiple isps and kppp but this behaviour in RHEL is strange. I installed firefox in RHEL and it works fine, giving the addition of a tabbed interface. Regards, Rony.

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[ILUG-BOM] [oot][commercial]enterprise system monitoring expertise needed
by Trevor Warren 01 Dec '04

01 Dec '04

Morning guys, TCS urgently needs canidates with the following expertise: >> Extensive Gnu-Linux expertise on the admin >> Scripting capability on bash and perl >> AIX/HP-UX expertise will be an added bonus >> Exposure to Nagios using distributed approach ESSENTIAL >> Theoretical Knowledge of Tivoli Esential >> Practical Knowledge of Tivoli will be and added bonus >> Theoretical Knowledge of Hp OpenView will be an added bonus >> Practical Knowledge of Tivoli will be and added bonus >> The canidate will have to have sound gnu-linux /unix skills and will be trained on Tivoli. This position is for a Tivoli deployment consultant and administrator. Pls forward emails to trevorwarren(a)gmail.com if you find the position challenging. Trevor ===== |------|____________________________________|------| ( >- / Scaling FreeSoftware & OpenSource \ -< ) /~\ / In the Enterprise \ /~\ | \) \ | www.fsf.org | www.opensource.org | / (/ | |_|_ \____________________________________/ _|_| __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Solaris 10
by selvin 01 Dec '04

01 Dec '04

Hi all, Recently I heard a lot 'bout Sun getting into Open Sourse with their Solaris 10, after attending their seminar on Solaris 10,I think its worth giving a shot at.. so anyone in Mumbai who has downloaded the Solaris 10( I'm too lazy for downloading it myself ;-), and who is kind enough to share it kindly let me know I'll make a copy of it. thanx in advance, Regards, Selvin "The Future is Open, the Future is Bright" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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A Positive Attitude
by Rony Bill 01 Dec '04

01 Dec '04

Dear Luggers, Its 2.40 am and I finally got my modem working in RHEL. The problem was that I had piled up many drivers one over another. I did a fresh install of the OS and then installation and setup was as smooth as butter. I also observe that though the site says that the free driver version is limited to 14kbps, I am able to connect at 56Kbps. I am sending this mail from evolution in RHEL and this is my very fisrt mail to you all and thanks to all of you, especially the admin for this lovely forum. Best Wishes, Rony.

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vsnl's new smtp auth settings
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 30 Nov '04

30 Nov '04

Hi, This is about vsnl's new smtp authentication settings. As usual, they have only given instructions for outlook, outlook express and eudora and netscape. The chap on the helpdesk phone had no clue whatsoever as to what to do with linux or even what sort of authentication they were using. Of course, the 22nd November deadline is way past and I can still get my emails thru the vsnl smtp server without any changes in my config. If this mail gets thru, that should be proof enough. I am using FC2 w/ postfix (and fetchmail w/ mutt). So how do I go about ascertaining what changes I need to make in my config ? thanks, Sharukh -- Dr. Sharukh K R Pavri. Homoeopath, Linuxer. I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things that money can buy." - Steve Martin

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] vsnl's new smtp auth settings
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 30 Nov '04

30 Nov '04

On Saturday 27 November 2004 09:53, Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote: > Hi, > > This is about vsnl's new smtp authentication settings. As usual, > they have only given instructions for outlook, outlook express and > eudora and netscape. The chap on the helpdesk phone had no clue > whatsoever as to what to do with linux or even what sort of > authentication they were using. The authentication is plain text. And u can use smtp only thru a vsnl dialup or leasedline connection or thru dishnet. The goal is to prevent spammers using vsnl as a relay. That legit vsnl users get spammed to death (90% in my case) is incomprehensible to the zombies who sit on the heldesk. Or that u may want to access your mailbox from from other locations. Or why users have to endure ads and flash animations for a paid service.

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[ILUG-BOM] [commerical] Urgently required PHP developers with 1+ years of experience.
by Brijesh Mishra 30 Nov '04

30 Nov '04

We require PHP developers for full time job, having 1+ years of work experience. Salary as per industry norms. Best Regards, Brijesh Mishra. brijeshm(a)unitek.com

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Net Security
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 30 Nov '04

30 Nov '04

On Monday 29 November 2004 18:58, Rony Bill wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vivek J.Patankar" <vivekpatankar(a)spymac.com> > > That's not quite correct. The two most popular AV solutions, Norton > & McAfee, both check files as soon as they are accessed. IF the virus is in the database the AV program will find it. Usually u get infected by some uknown mutant of existing virii. And often by a new one. The average time to infection is 4 minutes on a dialup. The average time to download a patch on a dialup is several times longer - a rather idiotic situation. And this does not include the great OS killer win XP - SP2. > > > Migrating a customer to linux is not so easy even if the driver > issues are resolved, as all his old data has to be converted to the > linux format which his new non-microsoft programs in linux should > read and edit just as before. OO does that quite well. And issues if any are very minor. Just be clear that when you change to linux u have to learn to do things differently - a small price to pay for freedom, reliability, stability, security etc. If ur customer prefers to stew in the microsoft pot well happy boiling. And guess what it's u the support guy who will get the flack not Billybhai. He will be preaching homilies about security, piracy, innovation etc., at some lackey seminar. > Many use Tally or QFA or similar > custom accounting software and this data will go waste in linux > without the program being able to run. Outlook Express has one > unique feature where you can have multiple accounts with their own > individual smtp settings. If there is a suspicious mail you can > right click on the header and view its entire source code without > opening it. I have downloaded and tried out different email clients > but OE was most feature rich. Yeah features like executing random vb scripts - man wake up. Regarding printers, peripherals etc. Check if the stuff u plan to buy works under Gnu/Linux before u pay. rgds jtd

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Ringtone on Linux
by komal 30 Nov '04

30 Nov '04

Is there any ringtone composer available for Sony Ericession or Nokia on Linux ? Thank you Komal

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RHEL CDs
by gnurpreet＠softhome.net 30 Nov '04

30 Nov '04

hi guys, can someone burn me a copy of the latest RH enterprise Linux CDs?? I'l get them pickd up from wherever u are in mumbai. Thanks Gurpreet

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option for LS
by lawrence_d＠sifycorp.com 30 Nov '04

30 Nov '04

Hi ! Could some one help me out with the option needed for ls -l so that the FULL username and groupname fields is outputted. The default column width for the username and groupname is 8, so i dont get to see the FULL names. Thanks , Cheers, Lawrence.

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PCQ Linux and CHM file
by komal 30 Nov '04

30 Nov '04

Hello Those of you who have used PCQ Linux 2004 would know that PCQ Linux can open CHM file automatically i.e. PCQ Linux installed some rpm to view CHM file. Unfortunately, I do not remember which rpm I stalled. Can anybody tell me which rpm I should install? Thank you Komal

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sco site hacked
by SeekingGyan 30 Nov '04

30 Nov '04

The site reads: "Recently we found parts of our code in almost all Microsoft(R) software. We want to bring an action against Microsoft(R) and our legal department is working on that. Parts of code found in in all Microsoft(R) products from MS-DOS(TM) 2.1 to Microsoft(R) Windows(TM) Longhorn. Currently we are checking older MS-DOS sources. It's obvious, that all while (1){ do_something; } and for (i = 0; i < 16; i++) loops came from our code." Clearly a hack it's highly embarassing for SCO who have been subject to lots of hack attempts and DDoS attacks on their servers in recent months. http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?id=25934&category=main

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RAID
by Rony Bill 29 Nov '04

29 Nov '04

Here is a very simple but informative link about the concept of RAID. http://www.cs.jhu.edu/~yairamir/cs418/os8/sld031.htm Regards, Rony.

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[ILUG-BOM] [commerical] Urgently required PHP developers with 1+ years of experience.
by Brijesh Mishra 29 Nov '04

29 Nov '04

BlankWe require PHP developers for full time job, having 1+ years of work experience. Salary negotiable. Best Regards, Brijesh Mishra. brijeshm(a)unitek.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Net Security
by Vivek J.Patankar 29 Nov '04

29 Nov '04

On Sun Nov 28 7:35 , 'Rony Bill' <ronbilly(a)hotpop.com> sent: >An antivirus detects viruses after they enter the system and get resident. >Many of my clients are home users so the comp is used by the kids too and >they have their own choices and uses which are difficult to implement in >linux. They are used to the standard programs. That's not quite correct. The two most popular AV solutions, Norton & McAfee, both check files as soon as they are accessed. A file being downloaded from the network is scanned before being saved onto the disk. Executables are also scanned before they are run. I'll give you an example.... some years ago, I installed WinMe & NAV2002 on a friends PC. I updated the AV using the live update feature of NAV. Several days later during an online chat with him over ICQ, as a prank I sent him Sub7 trojan client, under the garb of it being a game. The download completed and the file then promply disappeared. It ended up in the quarantine folder of NAV instead of the specified folder. Vivek

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Invitation to participate in online discussion forum "Free and Open Source Software: Policy and Development Implications"
by Atanu Garai 29 Nov '04

29 Nov '04

{Apologies for cross-posting} Dear Mumbai Linux User Group, We welcome you to participate in the online discussion forum "Free and Open Source Software: Policy and Development Implications" (FOSS-PDI) at http://lists.apdip.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss-pdi FOSS-PDI is a joint initiative of Bridges.org, (Cape Town, South Africa); Free and Open Source Software Foundation for Africa (FOSSFA), (Nairobi, Kenya); OneWorld South Asia (OWSA), (New Delhi, India); UNDP-APDIP International Open Source Network (IOSN), (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia); UNDP Asia-Pacific Development Information Programme (APDIP/UNDP), (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia). The multi-stakeholder partners of this e-discussion firmly believe that FOSS is in line with the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs): because it increases access to, ownership of, and control of knowledge and information through the collaborative development of newer technologies and communication opportunities. FOSS also provides an innovative Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) framework that can be applied in all areas of development theory and practice - advocacy for Free Medicine (e.g. generic HIV/AIDS drugs), Free Seeds (e.g. seed banks), Free Books (e.g. Open Access Movement), Freedom of Information Movement et. al. Therefore the issues being considered central to this debate are: * Opportunities and drawbacks of FOSS for developing countries – the roles of government, civil society, business in the process * FOSS and Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) – stretching the development dollar for scaling-up impact * The global Intellectual Property Concern - Business monopoly of first world nations software giants VS third world collaborative efforts. * Enabling legal/regulatory/policy framework for country specific strategic evolution of FOSS. * Open-source processes outside the software sector – Free Medicine, Seed Bank, Open Access, Open Archiving etc. * Comparison of proprietary software vis-à-vis FOSS in terms of technical merits –reliability, stability, and vulnerabilities, especially in the context of national security. * FOSS versus Public Domain Software and Freeware – the Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) of FOSS. * Motivations for contributing to FOSS projects - What motivates FOSS developers to "donate" their time? In the context of developing countries, can these motivators be encouraged by government, civil society and private sector interventions? We expect the deliberations of this on-ine discussion will contribute toward evolution of enabling policy framework on building/using FOSS for developmental interventions. To post to this list, send your email to: foss-pdi(a)lists.apdip.net General information about the mailing list is at: http://lists.apdip.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss-pdi We are looking forward to your active participation. Thank you. Warm regards, Moderators Sunil Abraham, UNDP/APDIP/IOSN Philipp Schmidt, Bridges,org Bildad Kagai, FOSSFA Naimur Rahman, OWSA Amandeep Singh Grewal, OWSA Atanu Garai, OWSA

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Re: csh scripting Doubt
by Kiran Agashe 29 Nov '04

29 Nov '04

Hello Manish, Thanks a lot for your response. Unfortunately my query was incomplete. I did not want way to append o/p of `pwd` to variable. What I wanted was a way to expand relative path to absolute path by removing unwanted prefixes such as "." or ".." and any other partial paths. csh by itself expands "~" but not "." and ".." So if I store: set ABC = ./my/relative/path set DEF = `pwd`${ABC} I get string such as: /home/kiran/./my/relative/path in DEF This is a valid path-string, But I wanted to get away with the "." OR in following example set ABC = ../kiran/my/relative/path set DEF = `pwd`${ABC} I will get /home/kiran/../kiran/my/relative/path in DEF which again is a valid-path string. But what I want is, /home/kiran/my/relative/path in DEF One way is: 1. Store current dir in a variable 2. cd to relative path 3. Do pwd and get result 4. Go back to original variable But I hope ther must be a smarter way to do this. Sorry for the incomplte query posted earlier. Thanking you, Best regards, - Kiran >Kiran Agashe wrote: > Or is there any alternative way this can be done in a > csh script? i.e. I have a relative path stored in a > variable, and I want to extract absolute path from >it. >Manish Wrote: >Try: >ABC=/my/relative/path >DEF=`pwd`${ABC} __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Suse 9.2 on Dell PC & Utility Partition Qs
by Shahed Moolji 29 Nov '04

29 Nov '04

Hi All, I just installed Suse 9.2 on a Dell 4600, with WinXP pre-installed. I used all the default / suggested disk partition settings. My Dell seems to have a "Utility Partition", which was detected by the installer and Grub gives me an option to boot into it. However, I am not able to boot into it I can boot into WinXP though without any problem. If I press F12 when I reboot the PC, there is an option to go into the utility partition, but this just brings up grub. I have not really understood the problem fully, so I dont know what to search for to look for answers :-( Does anyone have ay idea what may have gone on during the install process ? Thanks Shahed

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Net Security
by Rony Bill 28 Nov '04

28 Nov '04

Dear Luggers, Cable internet is a reality that one cannot ignore but it also has its problems of security. Viruses and trojans keep getting in frequently and its quite a nuiscance having to get rid of them often on the same machine. A firewall is not very usefull here as it is in dialup. To access the net, the gateway traffic has to be allowed, so that brings in the unwanted elements too. Being a LAN based system, there is unauthorised traffic from other infected machines too. The clients are all on windows as linux is still not very popular. However, the principles of security should be similar. So what is the way to keep the client machine clean even if the gateway is not so? Regards, Rony.

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New Poll for topic
by lists＠munshi.biz 28 Nov '04

28 Nov '04

Greetings, Anurag has created following poll on my request Which of the following topics will interest you the most for GLUG meet?: 1. How mono works? 2. Philosophy behind mono/.NET and their legal and social issues? 3. How to setup mono with apache for ASP.NET? 4. Database access with mono 5. Creating GUI apps with mono. 6. Develop on Visual Studio.NET and deploy on Apache/Mono Please visit http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/forum/ and vote before 5th December Where is the meeting? Thanks and regards. Amish.

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[ILUG-BOM] any speech to speech softwares for devnagri in open source
by ashwani mahajan 28 Nov '04

28 Nov '04

hi , i would like to know about any speech to text software in open source. like DRAGON NATURALLY SPEAKING for english Micky __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Open Office
by komal 28 Nov '04

28 Nov '04

Is there any option like Text to Column in Open Office Calc which is available in MS Excel. Thank you Komal

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csh scripting Doubt
by Kiran Agashe 28 Nov '04

28 Nov '04

Hi linuxers, I have a doubt in related to unix directory paths. Is there any unix command to convert a relative path into absolute path? Or is there any alternative way this can be done in a csh script? i.e. I have a relative path stored in a variable, and I want to extract absolute path from it. Thanks, Regards, - Kiran __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com

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Samba and BDC
by komal 28 Nov '04

28 Nov '04

Hello How to configure Samba 3.0.9 as a BDC server ? Thank you Komal

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NCST term
by Nikhil Joshi 28 Nov '04

28 Nov '04

Hi! Can anyone give a link to ncst-term or perhaps mail it to me ? I have searched all over but it seems it is part of some distro or other. I would really like Unicode support in Pine. Thanks, Nikhil -- Miss Wormwood : Calvin where was the Byzantine empire? Calvin : I'll take "outer planets" for $100.

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Differences between Bolnagari and My Keyboard driver
by Sachin A Chavan 28 Nov '04

28 Nov '04

Dear all, Sometimes back Dr. Nagarjun was asking about difference between Bolnagari and My keyboard driver. Please Note These are the differences : ============== Bol-nagari ============== Bolnagari is keyboard layout created by Indlinux team. it supports only phonetic XKb keyboard layout by using compose key feature supported by Operating system. They are just adding the kmaps to the system rest is done by operating system. =================== My keyboard driver =================== 1. This is program written in C using Xlib library. 2. It can supports ITRANS, INSCRIPT, PHONETIC, TYPEWRITER and any Custom Keyboard layout. 3. Not only for Indian languages but also European and Chinese ,Korean, Japanese language Input. 4. It supports all kinds of right to left scripts which are in Unicode range. 5. I have full control over the keyboard. Currently it supports Only Unicode devanagari itrans input. Works perfect on OpenOffice and Koffice. Similarity : It works at system level similar to Bolnagari but have some problems which can be eliminated. Future releases will include : 1. On fly selection of keyboard layout. 2. Display of possible key combinations for keypress. It is not available for Download. those who need it can send me mail at sacindia1(a)rediffmail.com -Sachin Chavan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] vsnl's new smtp auth settings
by Chirag Wazir 27 Nov '04

27 Nov '04

Hi, > This is about vsnl's new smtp authentication settings. ..... > ..... what to do with linux or even what sort of > authentication they were using. ..... > So how do I go about ascertaining what changes I need to make in my > config ? You only need to make changes in the SMTP settings in your mail client. 1) Set the outgoing SMTP server as smtp.vsnl.net 2) Switch on outgoing server authentication 3) If the client doesn't automatically use the POP login & password for SMTP also, you need to manually put these in. 3a) Make sure you put in the FULL email address as the username, not just the login. I had hell until I figured this out - and the helpdesk didn't know about this. 3b) If you need to set authentication type in your client use "LOGIN" not "PLAIN" or "CRAM-MD5". What these are called depend on your client. Just try sending a test mail to yourself with each possible authentication type till it works :-) Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org

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Installer fails to read HD geometry
by komal 25 Nov '04

25 Nov '04

Hello There is a serious problem with FC3 Installer fails to read HD geometry. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=138419 Anybody has solution? Regards Komal

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firewall for Ronny
by Onkar Nawathe 25 Nov '04

25 Nov '04

Rony wrote : The linmodem site has various drivers but the full version is available for a price, not free. The free version is limited to 14kbps. Suppose one were to choose a new internal modem available in lamington road,then what make of linmodem would be best suited for a wide variety,especially on P4 systems and latest linux distros of RedHat, SuSe, Mandrake etc. There are websites for compatible hardware, but If anyone has actually purchased one from Lam. Road and is satisfied with the drivers available and the ease of installation, then the details for the same would be most appreciated. At present I am switching between XP (for internet) and Linux too. Xandros does not have a firewall so its very scary to go online. There are too many entry attempts being detected by my firewall. Regards, Rony. hi rony, as far as linmodems are concerned i have no idea... ....but as far as ur concern abt no firewall in linux is concerned, try installing "clamav" (its a firewall for linux). I downloaded it using apt-get in KNOPPIX...i'm not sure if it works with other OSes. regards, Onkar. Onkar P. Nawathe

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Fedor Core 3 problem
by komal 25 Nov '04

25 Nov '04

Hello I am trying to install fedora core 3 on my system. But every time after booting and showing language selection menu it shows me bug like assertions(sector<=3) and assertions(head>=0) and installation abort abnormally Please help me what is wrong Thank you Regards, Komal

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to virus scan HTTP/FTP contents
by vaibhav samant 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

Some pointers / howtos on how to configure Dansguardian for AV scanning. Thank you. Vai On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote : >On Monday 22 November 2004 20:16, Srinivasan Krishnan wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 02:40, Rakesh wrote: > > > vaibhav samant wrote: > > > >Hello, > > > > > > > >How can I virus scan the HTTP contents. > > > > Dansguardian is GPL'd for noncommercial use > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >If it is GPL'd it can be used commercially. Infact it can be used for any purpose without restrictions except changing the GPL. The author acknowledges this in the last para. >If one wants to profit from this package one can ask the customer to download it (or u set a cron job which will do it for him). U can then charge for the service (cron script), installation and maintanence. > >I am not endorsing the abv bypass tho and am all for the author's pay for commercial use idea. > >GPL'd software is like a gene, once it gets out of your computer there is no way to stop replication / mutation / evolution. > >rgds >jtd > > > >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Localizaton Newsletter Issue 8 (15 Nov 2004) out
by Sachin A Chavan 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

Hi Karunakar, I am sachin I was working with Prof. Jitendra Shah till March 2004. I have developed Keyboard driver for Unicode Devanagari input. With this it is possible to type in openoffice, koffice, konqueror,mozilla,kate,kwrite,qtranslator,kbabel etc. using itrans. and it can also support inscript,phonetic, typewriter not only for devanagri but for all indian language input. can u give me Indlinux as platform for my work. I would like to meet u for showing the demo. also I need some help on xlib to eliminate problems in the driver. See you later -Sachin On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 Guntupalli Karunakar wrote : >Hi, > Localization Newsletter Issue 8 ( 15th November 2004 ) is out at > http://www.indlinux.org/nl/issue8.html > > Highlights incude > - Editorial on I4D articles and L10n deployment issues > - Multilingualization toolkit ( http://www.m17n.org ) > - Fedora Core 3 release with 5 Indian languages with Lohit set of >Indic fonts. > - CDAC launches Janabharatii project > - Team Watch - on Marathi team activities > - List Watch - a summary of some discussion happened on >Indlinux-group list. > - Help - Volunteers for Debian GUI installer needed. > > Feedback, suggestions etc welcome on <feedback AT indlinux.org> > For older issues of Newsletters, visit http://www.indlinux.org/nl/ > >Regards, >Karunakar > > >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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[ Commercial ] Fedora Core 3 Cd 's Available .......
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

Dear all, I am Shailesh....... I have all the four Cd's or Fedora Core 3 with me. Any One interested can get the same......... I stay at Badlapur, and work at Andheri ( Thru Ghatkopar Link ) Mail me Personally to get the Cd's Keep the Mailing List Free for Technical Exchanges.. U can get any number of cd from the set of 4 eg. If U have dowloaded upto Disk 2 and want only Disk 3.. or U can all the 4, The choice is Ur's Each Cd is priced at Rs 50 Note: Cd make would be SAMSUNG ( I feel it has good quality) I am not selling the Cd's for My Benefits... I only have a combo drive All the Fund from this Sale will go to FSF India... Also Ubuntu, Knoppix, School Gnoware CDs are available Bye for now, Regards, Shailesh ===== Technology is driving Me CRAZIER .... But Who said I Want To Be SANE !!!! Original Author of Signature :Shailesh.S.Mahadik (ssmahadik(a)yahoo.com) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com

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[Commercial ] Fedora Core 3 Cds Available
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

Dear All, I am Shailesh........ I have go all four Cd's of Fedora Core 3 I have a Combo Drive. Any body on the list interested in getting a those can mail me personally. I stay at Badlapur and Work in Andheri ( Thru Ghatkopar Link) So if U are interested U can mail me at my personal mail id.... Please keep the mailing list free for technical exchanges and other noble purposes. Each Cd is priced at Rs 50 U can demand for any specific number of the cd from sequence i.e only cd 2 or cd 3 or all choice is Ur's ( say U have downloaded upto 2nd disk, want only 3rd ) NOTE : CD will be SAMSUNG CD's (I think they are good quality) I am not selling these Cd's for My personal benefit....... Every Rupee of this will go to FSF of INDIA. Ubuntu, Knoppix, School Gnoware CDs are also available. Tell me more, Regards, Shailesh Technology is driving Me CRAZIER .... But Who said I Want To Be SANE !!!! Original Author of Signature :Shailesh.S.Mahadik (ssmahadik(a)yahoo.com) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! � Try it today!

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lug meet pics
by Anurag Patel 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

Hello, Pictures of November GLUG meet taken by our official photographer :-) Karunakar, are available at <http://www.ilug-bom.org.in/images/nov04>. -Anurag -- ------------------------------------------------ __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ n. (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.

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COMMERCIAL: FC-3 CD's Available
by Rajkumar Adsule 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

Hi all, My previous mail was lil confusing ..Sorry .... Fedora Core 3 CDs are available with me. Whoever willing to have plz mail me off LIST and or call me on 9819812478. The set of 4 CD's will be available for RS.175/-. You can collect them from Bandra. rk

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Minutes: November GLUG-Meet @ Netcore
by Amish Munshi 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

*Details of next GLUG Date: 19 December 2004 Agenda: For December meet we have decided to take up some technical topics. -> Python - by Steve -> Mono - by Amish Venue: -> To be decided after a poll Are you sure that the meeting is on 19th. 12th is the second sunday of December. Amish.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to virus scan HTTP/FTP contents
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

On Monday 22 November 2004 20:16, Srinivasan Krishnan wrote: > On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 02:40, Rakesh wrote: > > vaibhav samant wrote: > > >Hello, > > > > > >How can I virus scan the HTTP contents. > Dansguardian is GPL'd for noncommercial use ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If it is GPL'd it can be used commercially. Infact it can be used for any purpose without restrictions except changing the GPL. The author acknowledges this in the last para. If one wants to profit from this package one can ask the customer to download it (or u set a cron job which will do it for him). U can then charge for the service (cron script), installation and maintanence. I am not endorsing the abv bypass tho and am all for the author's pay for commercial use idea. GPL'd software is like a gene, once it gets out of your computer there is no way to stop replication / mutation / evolution. rgds jtd

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to virus scan HTTP/FTP contents
by vaibhav samant 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

Actualy I am looking for a middleware, which will pipe all HTTP contents via the AV engine and back to squid. Just like what MailScanner does. !! Any suggestions... Vai On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 Srinivasan Krishnan wrote : >On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 02:40, Rakesh wrote: > > vaibhav samant wrote: > > > > >Hello, > > > > > >How can I virus scan the HTTP contents. > > >Is there any middleware like MAILSCANNER, > > >which can intercept the HTTP contents, > > >pipe it via the AV and then fwd to the client ?? > > > > > >I am using a Squid Proxy Server. > > > > > >Thank you all in advance. > > >Vai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can use dansguardian or safesquid to do tht, but i am not sure > > whether they are available for free. > > > >Dansguardian is GPL'd for noncommercial use, but has a pay-per-use >licence for commerical applications. You might want to check the >website for further details. Dunno about safesquid though. > >K. > > > >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Problems in Fedora core 3 ..........SOS
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

Dear all, I had installed FC 3 and found that when system boots and starts rhgb it hangs !! I then replaced the rhgb rpm by the older one in FC 1 and it worked well... I have i810 board with celeron 633 Processor Also I think some issue is present in Xorg ( Xserver) When I have Xserver running and if I switch to my console using alt+ctrl+f1 or any such console .. X get killed.... This I have experienced in Redhat 7.0 on i810 boards but after Redhat 8.0 the Xserver was rock solid, no issues at all........ Can anybody throw light on these two issues.... Ur mail to list and a cc to me ( ssmahadik(a)yahoo.com) is appreciated........... tell me any way to avoid this or atleast some idea why this occuring........ Regards, Shailesh Technology is driving Me CRAZIER .... But Who said I Want To Be SANE !!!! Original Author of Signature :Shailesh.S.Mahadik (ssmahadik(a)yahoo.com) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! � Try it today!

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Localizaton Newsletter Issue 8 (15 Nov 2004) out
by Guntupalli Karunakar 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

Hi, Localization Newsletter Issue 8 ( 15th November 2004 ) is out at http://www.indlinux.org/nl/issue8.html Highlights incude - Editorial on I4D articles and L10n deployment issues - Multilingualization toolkit ( http://www.m17n.org ) - Fedora Core 3 release with 5 Indian languages with Lohit set of Indic fonts. - CDAC launches Janabharatii project - Team Watch - on Marathi team activities - List Watch - a summary of some discussion happened on Indlinux-group list. - Help - Volunteers for Debian GUI installer needed. Feedback, suggestions etc welcome on <feedback AT indlinux.org> For older issues of Newsletters, visit http://www.indlinux.org/nl/ Regards, Karunakar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] how about an online meet-up
by gaurav chaturvedi 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

hello, Here are the logs of the online meet. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mumbai_GNULinux/files/ I would like to thank Animesh Singh to give the first talk.Just hope there are more talks. If any one would like to give a talk just let us know. cheers, Gaurav.P.Chaturvedi

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Minutes: November GLUG-Meet @ Netcore
by Anurag 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

*Minutes of November GLUG-Meet @ Netcore* The GNU/Linux Users Group of Mumbai held its November GLUG meet at Netcore Solutions premises at lower parel on 21st Novmber 2004. This meet was attended by about 20 people coming from all over the city (mostly western) Following discussions and talks were conducted. -> Community Building Software - by Veer Bothra Veer talked about the relevence and importance of community building software in todays context. From the era when internet became accessible to the common person, to today's world there has been a lot of change in how people have tried to made communities on the net. From Yahoo! Geocities in those days to Blogs and Ryze of today, the central aim has been same. "To empower the common man with the power to express freely" (and create content for the respective sites unknowingly!). Veer talked about the in and out of community building software and their importance. [Tea break] -> Semantic Web - by Nagarjuna Nagarjuna talked about his vision of the semantic web computing model. He gave update about Gnowledge project aimed to create a new framework of semantic computing. -> Presentation slides are available at: http://emergic.org/ctxbin/wiki.pl Pictures of this meet are available with (hacker turned photographer) Karunakar. *Details of next GLUG Meet* Date: 19 December 2004 Agenda: For December meet we have decided to take up some technical topics. -> Python - by Steve -> Mono - by Amish Venue: -> To be decided after a poll Please see homepage for updates on next GLUG meet -Anurag -- ----------------------------------------------- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.

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How to virus scan HTTP/FTP contents
by vaibhav samant 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

Hello, How can I virus scan the HTTP contents. Is there any middleware like MAILSCANNER, which can intercept the HTTP contents, pipe it via the AV and then fwd to the client ?? I am using a Squid Proxy Server. Thank you all in advance. Vai

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[Article] [Link] Redhat Magazine
by Vinayak Hegde 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

Here's the link to the first issue fo Redhat Magazine. http://www.redhat.com/magazine/ Some interesting articles on User Mode Linux , Fedora Core 3 and SE Linux. --> Vinayak

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COMMERCIAL: Fedora Core 3 CD's Available
by Rajkumar Adsule 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

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xconq
by Kenneth Gonsalves 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

now available on sourceforge also http://sourceforge.net/projects/xconq enjoy kg

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[Commercial] Required PHP Programmers
by OSPOnline 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

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by amol 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

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Modem
by Pratap Prabhakar 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

Hi, I have Intex-PcTel HSP56 modem with me. Its working perfectly on my Win XP. I recently working on shifting over to Linux. But cannot complete that as my Modem does not work with Fedora Core 2. Please let me know if there are any drivers for the same. If I have to replace my modem which is the best compatible (and cheap!!) modem if I need to work with fedora. regards Prabhakar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Modem
by Pratap Prabhakar 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

H, I have tried different drivers with my current modem. My machine shows the details as ----:---- Class 0703: 134d:2189 Modem: PCTel Inc: Unknown device 2189 (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [Generic]) SubSystem 134d:1002 PCTel Inc: Unknown device 1002 Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 9 Memory at ff8fe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) I/O ports at d800 [size=256] So I am not sure if the modem chipset is recognized or not. The above was obtained using "scanModem" utility from linux compatible. one of the threads which closely relate to the problem I am facing is http://www.linuxcompatible.org/thread1001-1.html but even that is inconclusive. Is it advisible to try an older kernel instead of 2.6.x or try different modem? regards Prabhakar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux Bangalore 04
by Raseel Bhagat 21 Nov '04

21 Nov '04

Hi Philip, I'm planning to come there. Unless work gets me all tied up. Raseel Bhagat. On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 Philip Tellis wrote : >Any of you guys gonna be at Linux Bangalore 2004? We'll be having >several informal BoF meets there. > >Philip > >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Raseel Bhagat

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killing a known process
by abhilash kumar 21 Nov '04

21 Nov '04

Helllo: I am trying to write a shell script to get the process id of a particular process (slapd) and then kill that using 'kill -9 $pid'. I can get the pid by using prid= pidof slapd An echo of this for testing gives me the pid number followed by a blank line and then the prompt. Now the problem is when I am trying to use this variable in various forms in the shell script and get errors. option 1: kill -9 $prid Output: 20685 kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec] [pid | job]... or kill -l [sigspec] ========================= Option 2: actual= "kill -9 $prid" echo $actual Output: 20685 ./testscript: line 4: kill -9 : command not found ========================== Option 3: actual="kill -9 $prid" echo $actual Output: 20685 kill -9 #The process is still running. Can you shed some light on where I am going wrong? Thank you very much. All help appreciated. **************************************** Try $pkill <process-name> Abhilash ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] >>Problem with boot<<
by Raseel Bhagat 20 Nov '04

20 Nov '04

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 BIJU KRISHNAN wrote : >I cannot boot into WINDOWS: >When I booted my machine I got two options DOS and Linux, when i select Linux it boots fine, when i select DOS i get an error > >Disk write error >Pls press any key to reboot > >These are the things that I tried : > >1. I erased the MBR and then did a lilo -v in rescue mode. No luck although. > >2. Tried installing grub instead of lilo > >grub-install /dev/hda > >No luck > >3. I erased the MBR and then re-installed WINDOWS in the same folder C:\WINNT When you re-installed Windows, GRUB/LILO should have been overwritten by the NTLDR and you should have been able to boot Windows. Or atleast after that, GRUB should have been inaccessible. What exactly happened after you reinstalled Windows in C:\WINNT? Raseel Bhagat

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Help! Can't boot into linux after re-installing Win XP.
by Sarfaraz Kazi 20 Nov '04

20 Nov '04

Hi Linuxers, I'm having problem booting into my linux installation. I have Win XP on C: drive and root is on hda8. Recently, I had to re-install XP due to which, I guess, the MBR has got overwritten. Now, I don't get LILO on bootup. My distro is Mandrake 9.1 . Before re-installing XP, I had created a boot floppy from the Mandrake Control Centre module. I tried to boot using this floppy. It gives the boot prompt. I tried several commands at this prompt: /sbin/lilo linux linux image=/boot/vmlinuz linux root=/dev/hda8 Nothing works. Error message thrown up is "kernel image not found" or something like that. The floppy contains only one file by the name of "ldlinux" Next, I tried to use the rescue mode from the installation CD. The steps I followed are: 1. Boot into installation CD. 2. Press F1 for more options. 3. Type rescue at the boot prompt. 4. Screen shows - "Please wait - Loading program into memory" and shows these options at the bottom - "Alt-F1 for here, Alt-F3 to see the logs, Alt-F4 for kernel msgs". 5. On pressing Alt-F3, screen shows - *found a Mandrake Linux CDROM, good news! *trying to load /tmp/image/Mandrake/base/rescue_stage2.bz2 as a ramdisk 6. On pressing Alt-F4, screen shows- <4> hdc : ATAPI reset complete <6> end_request : I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 1261592 <4> hdc : cd_rom_decode_status : status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error} <4> hdc : cd_rom_decode_status : error=0x30 LastFailedSense 0x03 ...and on it goes. After some time, the main screen gives this message- "ERROR - Could not uncompress second stage ramdisk. This is probably an hardware error while reading the data. (this may be caused by a hardware failure or a linux kernel bug)" On pressing OK the screen goes blank and nothing happens. My installation CD is a little scratched but it used to work perfectly earlier. Could this be the problem? Is there any other way that I can remedy this situation? Please help. Regards, Sarfaraz Kazi The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none have tried to contact us. - Calvin. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] RAM Testing
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 20 Nov '04

20 Nov '04

What line should I add to the grub.conf file so that this extra > partition can now be added to the boot list? I have XP, RHEL and > Xandros installed in my system. My current boot loader is grub from > Xandros. in Debian edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (that is the default conf file). Add these lines to the end title memtest86 root (hdx,y) kernel /abcd ro root=/dev/hda5 where x is the ide disk (0=1st drive, 1=2nd drive etc) y is the partition (0=1st partition 1=2nd etc) abcd is your kernel usually file named vmlinuz rgds jtd

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Linux Bangalore 04
by Philip Tellis 20 Nov '04

20 Nov '04

Any of you guys gonna be at Linux Bangalore 2004? We'll be having several informal BoF meets there. Philip

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Cron job. how to shift the running time for this one.
by Amish Mehta 20 Nov '04

20 Nov '04

>> It usually runs at 2 minutes past 4, and is found in /etc/cron.daily on >> RedHat (and derivatives). >Hi Devdas, The Script is in /etc/cron.daily and its described above. >However, I need to know how to change the time from current time to >one hour prior? See /etc/crontab you might as well want to read man crond man 5 crontab man anacron Amish.

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Mega LUG meet / BoF session at LB/04
by Guntupalli Karunakar 20 Nov '04

20 Nov '04

Hi all, There is a plan to have a Mega LUG meet / BoF Session, where people coming from different LUGs / places across country for LB/04 , would meet and discuss on how to make FLOSS grow in India. Some aspects that could be discussed are - How to increase FLOSS usage in education/organizational/individual levels. - How to encourage students to participate in FLOSS development - Increasing LUGs scope and reach. - TODO: suggest more points of discussion. More suggestions/ideas on how this could go about are welcome (& needed) Here this idea is not just meet up and have a fruitful discussion, but also evolve some kind of charter or roadmap, which could also be translated into some action. Duration of meet could be 90-120 mins. A rough plan on how it could go about #1 First get some common agenda / points which would form basis of #discussion in the meet ( these could be chalk out on list discussions #) 2 Those who may not be able to make it to the meet, can post their #view on LIG/LB04 list or in their respective LUG list (& someone fwd #it directly to me or to LIG/LB04 list ). 3 Those who would be making #for LB04 , make sure you are there for the meet Once the points for discussion are fixed, it would be good to have some people who have experience on them speak for few minutes, to set the ball rolling on those issues. Also we would need some volunteers, who can take some notes on discussions , summarise it and prepare up a report and a charter/roadmap/action plan document. Please fwd this mail to LUG list ur on if its not already posted there. Regards, Karunakar

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[ILUG-BOM] [Commercial] Opening for Search Engine Friendly Content Developer
by New Immigrant new 20 Nov '04

20 Nov '04

There is a contract-to-hire onsite opening for a content developer with expertise in online marketing and search engine friendly html pages development. Some of the Responsibilities and qualifications for the position are: *To generate informative and organized content for a Web Hosting company. *To ensure a high quality site with excellent marketing and support information for both current and prospective customers. *To develop pages with a higher search engine ranking in mind. *Familiarity with writing search engine friendly pages. *Excellent command over written and spoken english. *Ability to work long hours and at odd hours. *A nitpicker. Attention to detail should be an inherent trait. *Web Surfing Junkie. *The candidate should have a proven track record displaying interest and proficiency in this kind of work, else you wont be doing justice to yourself or the job. *Be able to customize content available in the public domain to increase website reach and appeal. *Be able to work independently as well as in teams. *Open to constructive criticism. *Programming expertise not essential, but can be a added advantage to the company as well as to the candidate. *To work closely with the Sales Team to ensure relevant content to drive sales activities. If interested, please send an email to the above address attn: Sagar along with your Resume, Salary expectations and work samples. This is a position based in Mumbai city. thank you, _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 19, Issue 28
by Onkar Nawathe 19 Nov '04

19 Nov '04

>Dear Linuxers, > >Due to my constant fooling arnd with GRUB and LILO and the MBR, i now face a problem. > >I cannot boot into WINDOWS: > >When I booted my machine I got two options DOS and Linux, when i select Linux it boots fine, when i select DOS i get an error > >Disk write error >Pls press any key to reboot > >These are the things that I tried : > >1. I erased the MBR and then did a lilo -v in rescue mode. No luck although. > >2. Tried installing grub instead of lilo > >grub-install /dev/hda > >No luck > >3. I erased the MBR and then re-installed WINDOWS in the same folder C:\WINNT > >I'am using windows2k professional. > >Could somebody suggest a remedy.....! > >bye rgds >PP BIJU KRISHAN >When you re-installed Windows, GRUB/LILO should have been overwritten by the NTLDR and you should have been able to boot Windows. Or atleast after that, GRUB should have been inaccessible. > >What exactly happened after you reinstalled Windows in C:\WINNT? > >Raseel Bhagat I agree with Raseel Bhagat. after u reinstall windows , MBR should get over written, with linux not being accessible to you, i.e. there will not be any grub/lilo left and u would not be able to boot in to linux. ...even i'm curious as to what happened after u installed windows. regards, Onkar Nawathe Onkar P. Nawathe

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Cron job. how to shift the running time for this one.
by Vivek J.Patankar 19 Nov '04

19 Nov '04

On Fri Nov 19 4:09 , 'New Immigrant new' <newimmigrant(a)hotmail.com> sent: >Hi. >Got this script running in a cron job daily. and its called slocate.cron >Now it runs daily at a certain time. say 6 PM. I need to shift it to say 5 >PM. I just cannot seem to find that option anywhere. >I did a crontab -l but there is no listing for the script above. Try in /var/spool/cron/ This folder contains cron files for all users. VJP

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November GLUG meet
by Venkatesh Hariharan 19 Nov '04

19 Nov '04

Just a reminder to all about the next GLUG meet to be held this Sunday. Venky ===== The theme for the next GLUG meet is "Free/Open Source Community Software." There is a tremendous amount of innovation that is happening in the area of community software with sites like Ryze, Linked In, Orkut etc growing rapidly in popularity. Blogs are another form of community software that have become very popular in recent times. One of the speakers at the upcoming GLUG meet is Veer Bothra who manages Blogstreet.com. Amish, do you want to talk about Mono at this meeting? Also, many of us will be away from Mumbai on the second Sunday of November (myself included) because of the long weekend for Diwali. I therefore suggest that the next GLUG meet be held on 21st November 2004 between 3PM-5PM. The venue for the same will be Netcore's office [1] in Lower Parel. Feedback, suggestions, speakers welcome! Venky [1] http://www.emergic.com/contact/directions.html

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regarding tally
by santosh rao 19 Nov '04

19 Nov '04

Derwyn "I too had a problem runing tally 6.3 in wine but try a lower version 5.4 version it works on wine. As far as printing problem goes I just adjusted the margins and it worked. Try it Hope it works." can u just guide me on how to adjusting the margins of tally, i dont have the right know-how of tally. -- "He who fights monsters should look to it that he himself does not become one." - Friedrich Nietzche -- "He who fights monsters should look to it that he himself does not become one." - Friedrich Nietzche

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PP BIJU KRISHNAN
by deshpande＠vsnl.com 19 Nov '04

19 Nov '04

hELLO Cannot MBR into Windows Pl boot with a DOS / Win98 bootable floppy and then isuue command fdisk /mbr M DESHPANDE M Deshpande Tel 022-34161718

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[ILUG-BOM] [Commercial] Linux & PHP Trainee/Junior Programmer Required
by Abhishek Daga 19 Nov '04

19 Nov '04

There is an opening for a trainee/junior level linux administrator/php programmer based in south mumbai. The skills required are as follows: a) PHP : 6 months. b) MySQL c) Linux (Redhat9.0, FreeBSD) d) Good Documentation skills. e) Flexible shifts (Noon to Late Evening) f) Attention to detail. Pluses: 1)Perl programming 2) Search Engine Optimization techniques This is a 6 month contract with a possibility of a full time hire. Interested candidates, please email your resume along with salary requirements. Thank you, Abhishek __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally Problem
by Derwyn Dpenha 19 Nov '04

19 Nov '04

>tally ckearky says it is not designed to work in win. I too had a problem runing tally 6.3 in wine but try a lower version 5.4 version it works on wine. As far as printing problem goes I just adjusted the margins and it worked. Try it Hope it works. Derwyn

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>>Problem with boot<<
by BIJU KRISHNAN 18 Nov '04

18 Nov '04

Dear Linuxers, Due to my constant fooling arnd with GRUB and LILO and the MBR, i now face a problem. I cannot boot into WINDOWS: When I booted my machine I got two options DOS and Linux, when i select Linux it boots fine, when i select DOS i get an error Disk write error Pls press any key to reboot These are the things that I tried : 1. I erased the MBR and then did a lilo -v in rescue mode. No luck although. 2. Tried installing grub instead of lilo grub-install /dev/hda No luck 3. I erased the MBR and then re-installed WINDOWS in the same folder C:\WINNT I'am using windows2k professional. Could somebody suggest a remedy.....! bye rgds PP BIJU KRISHAN --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Discover all that�s new in My Yahoo!

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[Commercial] Job opening for Project Managers
by OSPOnline 18 Nov '04

18 Nov '04

Greetings, We have immediate openings for Project Managers having atleast 3-4 yrs experience and domain knowledge in Linux & Perl. Those interested may send their profiles to jobs(a)ospians.com or contact the undersigned off the list. Regards, Aishwarya Email: aishwarya(a)ospians.com Mobile: +91 98208 79303

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November GLUG meet
by Venkatesh Hariharan 18 Nov '04

18 Nov '04

The theme for the next GLUG meet is "Free/Open Source Community Software." There is a tremendous amount of innovation that is happening in the area of community software with sites like Ryze, Linked In, Orkut etc growing rapidly in popularity. Blogs are another form of community software that have become very popular in recent times. One of the speakers at the upcoming GLUG meet is Veer Bothra who manages Blogstreet.com. Amish, do you want to talk about Mono at this meeting? Also, many of us will be away from Mumbai on the second Sunday of November (myself included) because of the long weekend for Diwali. I therefore suggest that the next GLUG meet be held on 21st November 2004 between 3PM-5PM. The venue for the same will be Netcore's office [1] in Lower Parel. Feedback, suggestions, speakers welcome! Venky http://www.emergic.com/contact/directions.html

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] RAM Testing
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

On Wednesday 17 November 2004 15:29, Rony Bill wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <sherlock(a)vsnl.com> > > > Not quite. repeat the test. If it hangs again something is > > definetly not right with ur pc. Probable instability in access > > timings at alleviated tempratures / clock skew / nisy psu /etc. > > My system is working fine and I use original software so no reboot > problems. I even test a lot of software. How did you create the > boot floppy? Maybe my process was not correct. I took the > memtest.iso and burned it into a CD using nero. Then I booted using > the CD. What process did you use? Created a seperate partition and installed the stuff. Booted using grub. Using a cd should not make a difference though. And as usual use whatever suits u best. rgds jtd > > Rony

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Re: Tally
by santosh rao 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

kg , wht if the existing pgsql cant be changed, tht roles out the question of avsap, iam -- "He who fights monsters should look to it that he himself does not become one." - Friedrich Nietzche

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LFY: Software with this month (November's) CDs
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

Please post to other lists. FN Some of the software included in this month's CDs: * MEPISLinux ("A desktop Linux the way you want it... hundreds of of software programs are pre-installed and fully configured to use". Also a choice of kernels.) * Fedora Core 2 Updates * Kernel 2.6.8.1 and patches * DISTRO: VectorLinux 181 MB live distro * DISTRO: DragonLinux: installs on Windows * DISTRO: Damn Small Linux: 50 MB live Linux * GAMES: Wormux and Daimonin * UTILITIES: FreeDOS, KDevelop, Firefox web browser, Mozilla suite, SmoothWall-Firewall, GIMP image manipulation program, GTK (GIMP Took Kit). FN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick Noronha (FN) Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks http://fn.swiki.net http://www.ryze.com/go/fredericknoronha http://fn-floss.notlong.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Difficulties to send email across? Write to fredericknoronha at vsnl.net ============================================================================ Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] RAM Testing
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

On Tuesday 16 November 2004 18:13, Rony Bill wrote: > Hello Luggers, > > I tried the softwares for a bootable RAM tester floppy from both > the sites below. > > http://www.memtest86.com/ > > www.simmtester.com > > The simmtester worked excellently. The memtest one hung my (good) > comp half way while testing. So the simmtester one is worth keeping > in your handy floppy collection, to check for bad RAMs. Not quite. repeat the test. If it hangs again something is definetly not right with ur pc. Probable instability in access timings at alleviated tempratures / clock skew / nisy psu /etc. I have found memtest86 to be vry good - if the pc fails in 24 hrs running the tests, it will not work reliable (no reboots for 6 months = reliable) > > Regards, > > Rony.

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[Commercial] Freelance Linux Trainers required
by Optimal Solutions 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally Problem
by Saswata Banerjee 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

tally ckearky says it is not designed to work in win. Rishi <rishi(a)gangfam.com> wrote: __________ >> Correct. >> >> Komal > >Mr. Sanjeev Chauhan - posted this to me off the list.... >================================================= >Using WINE is no solution. Please use Tally 6.3 on RHEL. Tally 6.3 is a >certified product on RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise Linux) WS 3...in short >Tally is available on Red Hat. > >regards >Sanjeev Chauhan >Technical Consultant >================================================= > >not sure if this is true. > >Regards > >Rishi > >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Tally Problem
by santosh rao 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

i am trying to run tally in wine, now when i give a print of large data, tally instead of squeezing the data ignores some data. does nebody have ne idea on how to get this to work. i am using slackware linux 9.1, and tally 5.4 -- "He who fights monsters should look to it that he himself does not become one." - Friedrich Nietzche

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[OT][$$$] Ingres® Million Dollar Challenge
by Sachin Rase 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

http://www3.ca.com/Solutions/Collateral.asp?CID=61137 "Here's one you just might love — and so will your bank account — if you decide to accept The Ingres Million Dollar Challenge. CA is offering cash awards with a total purse of $1 million to the members of the open source community that develop applications to convert, transform and migrate data and applications from the selected databases to the Ingres database. Applications will be reviewed and selected by a panel of judges from CA and the open source community, and the winners will be announced during caworldsm 2005 in Orlando, Florida." -- -- Sachin Rase GNU\Linux enthusiast 91-9819246569

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Freezing HDDs
by Rony Bill 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

Sometime back there was talk about freezing hard disk drives. "An executive who froze his broken hard disk thinking it would be fixed has topped a list of the weirdest computer mishaps. " http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4003733.stm Regards, Rony.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Tally Problem
by Saswata Banerjee 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

tally ckearky says it is not designed to work in win. Rishi <rishi(a)gangfam.com> wrote: __________ >> Correct. >> >> Komal > >Mr. Sanjeev Chauhan - posted this to me off the list.... >================================================= >Using WINE is no solution. Please use Tally 6.3 on RHEL. Tally 6.3 is a >certified product on RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise Linux) WS 3...in short >Tally is available on Red Hat. > >regards >Sanjeev Chauhan >Technical Consultant >================================================= > >not sure if this is true. > >Regards > >Rishi > >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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RAM Testing
by Rony Bill 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

Hello Luggers, I tried the softwares for a bootable RAM tester floppy from both the sites below. http://www.memtest86.com/ www.simmtester.com The simmtester worked excellently. The memtest one hung my (good) comp half way while testing. So the simmtester one is worth keeping in your handy floppy collection, to check for bad RAMs. Regards, Rony.

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Should vi be doing it?
by abhilash kumar 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

Hi Well the directory has 777 permissions, and I mean any user "xyz" not only "root". But the point is that as the file is readonly how is vi allowing to do forced write, and change the ownership of file? Even if it allows this then should't it be restricted to root or at most the owner/group-members!! The version of vi that I use is "vim-enhanced-6.2.98-1" on a RedHat9. Abhilash ___________________________________________________________ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] how about an online meet-up
by Raseel Bhagat 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

Hi, I agree with this point too. I'm in Bangalore, but I'd like to participate in the Bombay ILUG discussions. So lets, do the Yahoo idea! On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 Adil Kodian wrote : > > > > > > These aren't things that need to be arranged. People should always be > > > online in the lug chatroom. Most of us from around India hang out in > > > #linux-india on irc.freenode.net, and we have these online meet-ups > > > about once a day for 24 hours at a time. > >forming an auxillary IRC, Yahoo - etc list/room/group would be a good >idea - as a) not everyone on this list is in mumbai and b) not >everyone may be in town on the day of the meeting. > >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Raseel Bhagat

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Linux Administrator
by komal 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

What constitute as a *qualified* Linux System administrator ? Thank you

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[TidBit] Java Vs. .NET
by Amol Hatwar 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

This is link is a must see. It gives 101 reasons why Java is better than .NET. The 101st reason is a good one :). Here's the link: http://www.manageability.org/manageabilityWiki/WhyJavaIsBetterThanDotNet Enjoy. ah ---- Note: This link is being given in jest, not for starting debates and battles.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Bittorent Fedora 3 problem
by Vinayak Hegde 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:03:42 +0530, Sujeet Bhatt <sujeet.bhatt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The md5sum file is the last one to be downloaded. I'm still waiting > for it. The question is: if the md5sum does not match, will all this > downloading over several days be in vain? Or will Bittorrent somehow > resurrect the files to their pristine glory after all of them have > been downloaded? If all the files are downloaded and md5sums do not match, it is a waste of time and bandwidth. Sad but true :(.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Freezing HDDs
by Vivek J.Patankar 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

On Sun Nov 14 22:36 , gaurav chaturvedi <gaurav.p.chaturvedi(a)gmail.com> sent: > I have the file up-loaded the Techrepublic file in pdf version size = 552 kb. >You can download The pdf file from this link >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mumbai_GNULinux/files/ It's available to group members only. What of non-members? Vivek

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Need Linux software
by komal 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

I need Fedora Core 3,Suse Professional 9.2. Thank you Komal

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Redhat enterprise support
by komal 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

What are list members experience about Red Hat Enterprise Linux support and services? It is worth paying huge amount of money for support? After reading article on lwn about Enterprise Linux: is it broken? (http://lwn.net/Articles/109527/) I wonder whitebox Linux initiatives worth following. Is it true that numbers of Red Hat supports call are found on popular Linux news group? Regards Komal

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Freezing HDDs
by Vivek J.Patankar 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

On Sun Nov 14 9:10 , 'Rony Bill' <ronbilly(a)hotpop.com> sent: >Sometime back there was talk about freezing hard disk drives. > >"An executive who froze his broken hard disk thinking it would be fixed has >topped a list of the weirdest computer mishaps. " > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4003733.stm Some years back I read a whitepaper from techrepublic.com about harddisk failures and what to do in such cases. Freezing a harddisk was one of things to try incase it won't spin up. The paper even mentioned of a hard disk that used to spin-up only when tapped on the side with a screwdriver, and stopped immediately. According to the report, the technician attending the problem continuously tapped the disk for two hours so that the client could transfer his data to another harddisk.

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Filesystem Check
by Sandesh Singh 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

I wanted to know if there is any 'scandisk' sort of utility for Linux. I know about "fsck", but it warns me against running it on mounted filesystems. It doesn't run even in the single user mode. Actually, after I went thru the startup scripts (Fedora Core 1), I saw that it checked for a command line argument ("forcefsck") and ran the checking utility. That worked. But is there a better solution than that? I mean, everytime I want to check the filesystem, I dont want to go thru grub. -- [ Sandy ] Windows [noun] A thirty-two bit extension and GUI shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally coded for a four bit microprocessor and sold by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition. Visit me : http://sandesh247.blogspot.com/ Or : http://www.geocities.com/sandesh247/

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Is this supposed to happen!!!!!!
by abhilash kumar 14 Nov '04

14 Nov '04

Hi all, Consider a file with read-only permissions for all that is r--r--r-- is a directory with permissions of 777. The owner of the file is say a user "abc". 1.Any other user say "xyz" can write to this file after opening it with vi using a forced write(wq!). 2.After the forced write "xyz" becomes the owner of the file. Abhilash ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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PHP problem solved..
by abhilash kumar 14 Nov '04

14 Nov '04

Hi all Thanks for the help provided I could install and work on PHP 4.3.4 finally.... abhilash ___________________________________________________________ Moving house? Beach bar in Thailand? New Wardrobe? Win £10k with Yahoo! Mail to make your dream a reality. Get Yahoo! Mail www.yahoo.co.uk/10k

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What is the meaning of these?
by komal 12 Nov '04

12 Nov '04

Hello In top command output I see aio/0,ato/0,events/0,kacpid,kblocked/0,pdflush,scsi_eh_o,migration/0 without any command evoked. What are all these command or process resoponcible? thank you Komal

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Linux home networking
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 12 Nov '04

12 Nov '04

> > Task 1 : Activate the network card does it detect the ethernet card? kg Yeah it does show the Card details .. it's a DLink Lan Card. So it shows "Realtek ...." If "redhat-config-network-gui" is the same dialog brought up from the Desktop Start Menu->System..->Network. I tried that before posting here.. it shows the network card inactive. I tried putting in a static IP instead of the default DHCP, didn't work. I get a message box "Unable to activate..."

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[Admin] Festival Alert
by Linuxers Admin 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

The festival season is here. Diwali, Id, Christmas and New Year are upon us. There's a danger that this list will get swamped with greetings. I request people not to send messages with the sole purpose of wishing all list members. It's fine to attach a text only greeting at the bottom of your ON TOPIC messages. Thanks -- List Admin

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HAPPY DIWALI
by Rony Bill 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Wishing everyone at ILUG-BOM a very Happy Diwali and a Prosperous New Year. May the new year bring new ideas and technology that will move our Nation further ahead to new heights. Keep up the scientific temper. Best Wishes, Rony.

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Knoppix doesnt detect my CDs
by Onkar Nawathe 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

hi I use knoppix 3.4. When i load cd into my cdrom or into my cdRW and click on the CD-ROM icons under devices i get the follwing error message twice.... 1. mount: special device /dev/cdrom1 does not exist Please check that the disk is entered correctly 2.mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist Please check that the disk is entered correctly Also k3b deos not detect any CD-ROMs or CD-RWs in the I use a Asus CD-RW writer and a Samsung CD-ROM I did not encounter any problems when i tried to burn CDs in Xandros (but the burning speed is too less - 4KBps). Can anybody guide me as to what might be going wrong and how to tackle this situation. By the way, Happy Dipawali guys. Hope u enjoy a crackerless but a bright diwali....enjoy!! regards, Onkar Nawathe. Onkar P. Nawathe

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[OT] Happy Diwali All !!
by risqer 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Hope you all have great holidays and a blessed new year! -- Regards, Saurabh Sawant. (risqer). http://www.x31.aboho.com

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Fedora Core 3 released
by Venkatesh Hariharan 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Fedora Core 3 is now available for download. FC3 includes support for Hindi, Punjabi, Gujrati, Bangla and Tamil. The Lohit family of fonts for these languages are included with FC3. These fonts have been released under GPL. http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html Venky

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Php Problem
by abhilash kumar 10 Nov '04

10 Nov '04

Hi Sorry I forgot the error_log it says "child exit signal Segmentation fault (11)". <?php phpinfo(); ?> also produces the same result. short_open_tag is set to "on". Abhilash ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Unable to boot from new Image after compilation of kernel
by Srinivas G. 10 Nov '04

10 Nov '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: noel seq [mailto:noelseq@hotmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 5:33 PM > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Unable to boot from new Image after compilation of > kernel > > > Hi, > > I am trying to load scsi drivers on my RHL8.0 kernel 2.4.18-14. As per the > driver docs, I need to rebuild the kernel with scsi support and then load > the modules. > > I have run the following; > > make menuconfig > make dep > make bzImage > > The image is created in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot directory and have > copied the same to /boot > > edited /etc/grub.conf and added the new image as initrd /bzImage > > When I try to boot into linux using this kernel I get the following > message. > > VFS: Cannot open boot device "LABEL=/" > please append a correct "root=" boot option > kernel panic :VFS: unable to mount root fs on 00:00 > > Am able to boot using the previously installed kernel. > The other lines in grub.conf are copy/pasted and same as previous entries. > > Where am I going wrong. > > Do I really need to recompile the kernel or is there some other way to > load > the scsi drivers. > > One more info, once I make bzImage, it gives me the following information: > Boot sector is 512 bytes > setup is 4774 bytes > ssytem is 1144 kb > kernel is too high for standalone boot from floppy > make [1] leaving ....... > > I tried deselecting some of the options like bluetooth, etc in make > menuconfig, but the size of the bzImage does not go below 950Kb. > > Regards, > > Noel > > _________________________________________________________________ > The all-new MSN Search. Get fast and precise results. > http://search.msn.co.in Try it now! > Dear noel, Please follow the following steps to build the new image kernel. You have not mentioned the kernel version here. For 2.4.x kernel, please follow the following steps. All these steps should perform from the kernel source directory i.e. /usr/src/linux-2.4 1. make menuconfig - we can do the modifications here. 2. make dep - updates the dependencies. 3. make bzImage - creates the image file under i386 directory. 4. make modules 5. make modules_install - before executing this command please change the EXTRAVERSION variable in the source directory under linux/version.h Based on this name it will create the modules directory under /lib/modules... 6. make install - This will copy the System.map and bzImage files to /boot directory and creates the links and finally updates /etc/grub.conf files. For more information please follow the following link. http://www.cpqlinux.com/kernel.html Regards, Srinivas G

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Problem working with php
by abhilash kumar 10 Nov '04

10 Nov '04

Hi all, I am facing some problems with working on "php". I have installed Apache 2 as the webserver on a RedHat 9.I also have mysql installed. I downloaded the php-5.0.2 source and on running the ./configure --with-mysql --with-apxs2 there are no error messages. make and make install also don't give any error messages. In the httpd.conf file th following lines were added LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so AddType application/x-httpd-php .php But then upon opening any "php" file I still get a blank page in the browser. The Apache server is works well with html files. I will be greatful for the help.Thanks in advance. Abhilash ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Problem working with php
by Amish Munshi 10 Nov '04

10 Nov '04

>>>linuxwarrier(a)yahoo.co.uk 11/09 5:26 pm >>> Hi all, But then upon opening any "php" file I still get a blank page in the browser. The Apache server is works well with html files. What does the log files of httpd speak?

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] My PC won't start...Please help!
by Sarfaraz Kazi 09 Nov '04

09 Nov '04

> On Sun Nov 7 7:06 , Sarfaraz Kazi <sarzkazi(a)yahoo.com> sent: > > >the motherboard manual says that you have to short the > >solder points in order to clear the cmos before you > >put in the new battery. can anybody please guide as to > >how to locate these solder points and how to short > >them. > > Clearing the CMOS is usually done by shorting two pins on the > motherboard using > a jumper. Details of where these two pins should be found > will/should be in the > motherboard manual. In certain motherboard types the CMOS is > cleared by keeping a > designated key depressed and switching it on. > In case you cannot locate the pins, CMOS can also be cleared > by removing the > CMOS battery. > Vivek IT WORKS....IT WORKS....IT WORKS!!!! Whew!! got the machine to run, at last. the contact between the cpu and the heatsink turned out to be the culprit. just took out the heatsink/fan, re-applied some thermal compound and put it back in. Voila! everything's fine with the world again!! Thanks to all of you for your kind help, advice and suggestions. ilug-bom rocks!!! yooohoooo :-). Sarfaraz. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

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Developing File Systems
by Concepts 09 Nov '04

09 Nov '04

Hello All, Concepts has always been in forefront for providing software professionals with right directions, methodology to ensure that they remain on cutting edge of development and continue to win, with quality training from experienced Industry Experts. We are extremely happy to announce first of its kind special �File System Driver Workshop�. Don�t miss this opportunity to see first-hand how Concepts illustrates File System Fundamentals with a discussion of broader operating systems issues for developers as well as practical issues related to development of FSD and Filter Drivers. Total Duration: 24-30 Hrs (Only on WeekEnds) Cost: Rs. 6000 per participant Venue: Concepts, Kothrud, Pune, India. If you have any queries feel free to call us on 020 56261180 / 09822773721. Or mail us at info(a)conceptssys.com Thanks & Regards, Team, Concepts. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

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Linux home networking
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 09 Nov '04

09 Nov '04

After a rush of blood to the head, I got Steven's network programming book and installed RHL 8 on my old machine.. But predictably enough, I got stuck in no time... after some tinkering with my drives and an accidental partition format, I have RHL8 on dual boot working . But the network doesn't work... So I have a machine running WinXP and lots of crunching power connected to my trusty P2 running Win98 and RHL8. The trouble now is that WinXP and Win98 autodetect network settings and able to communicate with each other. RHL 8 on the other hand is struggling to activate the ethernet card which it has detected. Task 1 : Activate the network card Task 2 : I think Samba is used to share files with Windows. What I need is to be able to browse the files on the Linux box via the Windows explorer and vice versa Any help or pointer to a how-to would be appreciated. Thanks, Gishu Pillai

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[COMMERCIAL] Linux System Administrator Situation Vacant
by Hyper Tech 09 Nov '04

09 Nov '04

[COMMERCIAL] Linux System Administrator Situation Vacant Do you believe that you can make Open Source work for an Enterprise? If you are around 2 years experienced on Linux and have a sound knowledge on whats in Linux, please read on... Required Graduates / Post Graduates / Diploma Holders with 2 Years experience on Linux System Administration for employment in a consulting firm. The person will be deployed full time at a reputed client's Head Office. Totally Blue Collared job. So, Attitude Matters a lot. Knowing Linux well is technically the only requirement along with knowledge of any Programming Language. Knowledge of Perl for System Administration is an added advantage. Please mail in your Resumes with why you feel that _you_ can make OSS work to hypertech2k4(a)yahoo.com immediately. The early bird catches the worm obviously. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

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[Commercial] Job Opening for Project Manager - IT
by OSPOnline 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

We have an immedidate opening for Project Manager - IT for an International Company for their Mumbai branch. The candidate should be an MBA with atleast 3 yrs experience. Any exposure to Finance will be be preferred. The salary is between 2.5 - 3.0 lacs p.a. Its a permanent position. Those interested may reply off the list and mail their profiles to info(a)ospians.com at the earliest.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] My PC won't start...Please help!
by Vivek J.Patankar 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

On Sun Nov 7 7:06 , Sarfaraz Kazi <sarzkazi(a)yahoo.com> sent: >the motherboard manual says that you have to short the >solder points in order to clear the cmos before you >put in the new battery. can anybody please guide as to >how to locate these solder points and how to short >them. Clearing the CMOS is usually done by shorting two pins on the motherboard using a jumper. Details of where these two pins should be found will/should be in the motherboard manual. In certain motherboard types the CMOS is cleared by keeping a designated key depressed and switching it on. In case you cannot locate the pins, CMOS can also be cleared by removing the CMOS battery. Vivek ---- Get Urchin 6 On Demand web analytics. Because you can't wait to be found. http://www.urchin.com/?utm_campaign=U6OD&utm_medium=email&source=spymac.com…

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[Announce] Linux Bangalore delegate registration open
by Philip Tellis 07 Nov '04

07 Nov '04

Linux Bangalore 2004 delegate registration is now open. Visit http://www.linux-bangalore.org/2004/register/ to register. Live registration stats available at http://www.linux-bangalore.org/2004/register/stats.php Philip -- The Shuttle is now going five times the sound of speed. -- Dan Rather, first landing of Columbia

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] My PC won't start...Please help!
by Sarfaraz Kazi 07 Nov '04

07 Nov '04

> Sarfaraz, Sachin: > I'm facing exactly the same issue since last > two days. Have a feeling its something to do with SMPS. Because > I got it started once or twice randomly by touching the SMPS or > somewhere on the motherboard while powering on. (Earthing > problem?) Sarfaraz, pls keep me posted if you get any clue; > ditto from my side. > Veer. Hi Veer, guess what? i changed the smps and now the system starts up. one problem solved. but i'm into another soup now! as i mentioned in my first post, the system powered off suddenly while i was working on something. well, actually at that time i was trying to re-install windoze xp. i dual-boot with xp & gnu/linux (mandrake 9.1 - kernel 2.4.2<something>) . xp installed on c: and wasn't working. the system went off in the middle of the installation process. now when i start the machine, the fans work, hdd works, cd drive works but i don't get any display and no POST,i.e., i'm not getting the single beep on boot. the hdd activity led stays constantly on. indicates some problem with bios. does it has to do anything with the fact that i changed the cmos battery while the system was down? Sachinji, ramzaam mubarak aapko bhi! can you please help me out with this one? Regards, Sarfaraz. <sig> Danny : "They say I've paid my debt to the society." Tess : "Funny, I didn't receive a check!" - "Ocean's Eleven" </sig> __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] My PC won't start...Please help!
by Vivek J.Patankar 07 Nov '04

07 Nov '04

On Sat Nov 6 5:19 , 'Rony Bill' <ronbilly(a)hotpop.com> sent: >> Ever heard about hydro foils? Good for small vessels. Not practical on >> larger ones. >Yes and seen one too in a Bond movie 'Thunderbird'. 'Thunderball' ---- Get Urchin 6 On Demand web analytics. Because you can't wait to be found. http://www.urchin.com/?utm_campaign=U6OD&utm_medium=email&source=spymac.com…

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[ILUG-BOM] Unable to boot from new Image after compilation of kernel
by noel seq 07 Nov '04

07 Nov '04

Hi, I am trying to load scsi drivers on my RHL8.0 kernel 2.4.18-14. As per the driver docs, I need to rebuild the kernel with scsi support and then load the modules. I have run the following; make menuconfig make dep make bzImage The image is created in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot directory and have copied the same to /boot edited /etc/grub.conf and added the new image as initrd /bzImage When I try to boot into linux using this kernel I get the following message. VFS: Cannot open boot device "LABEL=/" please append a correct "root=" boot option kernel panic :VFS: unable to mount root fs on 00:00 Am able to boot using the previously installed kernel. The other lines in grub.conf are copy/pasted and same as previous entries. Where am I going wrong. Do I really need to recompile the kernel or is there some other way to load the scsi drivers. One more info, once I make bzImage, it gives me the following information: Boot sector is 512 bytes setup is 4774 bytes ssytem is 1144 kb kernel is too high for standalone boot from floppy make [1] leaving ....... I tried deselecting some of the options like bluetooth, etc in make menuconfig, but the size of the bzImage does not go below 950Kb. Regards, Noel _________________________________________________________________ The all-new MSN Search. Get fast and precise results. http://search.msn.co.in Try it now!

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Making Compressed CDROM in GNU/Linux
by Nikhil Joshi 07 Nov '04

07 Nov '04

Hi! Wrote this small howto for making compressed CD's in Linux. New users will certainly appreciate the fact Linux provides much more features than just security,stability and speed as compared to other popular OS'es. Making Compressed CDROM in Linux Nikhil Joshi Introduction I had often wondered whether there is a way to zip your files, burn them on a CD and then decompress them on-the-fly to save space. Well the good news is there is a method to do the same! Linux provides a Transparent decompression extension to achieve the same. It is useful when you have a lot of text/HTML/ doc files to burn on the CD and you want to save the precious space. It is especially useful to view the e-books which are mostly in HTML format. Prepare the Kernel CAVEAT: Please note that the CD that we are going to make will only be readable in Linux environment as Windows does not have the Transparent decompression extension. First we have to enable the Transparent decompression extension in the kernel. Compiling the kernel is a tricky business and requires patience and will to learn something new. This link will certainly help you: http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html I'll outline the steps below: 1. Download and unpack the latest 2.6 series stable kernel from http:// www.kernel.org/ 2. Type make menuconfig 3. Goto File Systems -> CDROM/DVD Filesystems and enable Transparent decompression extension 4. make; make modules; make modules_install 5. Copy the bzImage to /boot and update the bootloader configuration appropriately The commands Now that we have the kernel ready let's see the commands. Put everything you want to compress in a directory. First we make a compressed directory hierarchy of the directory we want to compress. $ mkzftree intree outree creates a compressed directory (outree) out of a normal directory (intree). Now we will make an iso image out of the directory hierarchy. $ mkisofs -o mycd.iso -R -allow-lowercase -allow-multidot -l -L - z outree That's it!! We have created an iso file which we can burn using any CD Burning Software. I use k3b (http://www.k3b.org/) on Linux. Conclusion I created a normal iso image out of a directory tree and another iso image out of the compressed directory tree. The space savings were obvious: 591MB for normal iso and 448MB using compression. A gain of 143 MB. This directory tree had lots of PDF files which do not compress well as compared to ASCII text files. Overall the space saving was considerable and I am already a fan of Transparent decompression. -- Often it takes some calamity to make us live in the present. Then suddenly we wake up and see all the mistakes we have made. But it is too late to change anything. -- Calvin

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GNUChess
by komal 07 Nov '04

07 Nov '04

Which toolkit and programming framework GNUChess used? It is really very annoying to keep hold on menu to go to the options. Frankly it sucks Regards Komal

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Sendmail Filtering
by Mangesh V Rakhunde 06 Nov '04

06 Nov '04

Hi my question was i run sendmail server configured with smtp-= auth. Is there any way where i can filter the mails or discard the mails ha ving infected attachments. On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 Devdas B= hagat wrote : >On 06/11/04 08:23 -0000, Mangesh V Rakhunde wrote:<= BR> > > I run a mail server i.e sendmail o configured = SMTP auth. > > > > > > > >&= nbsp; My problem is mails. Many machines in and t= hey just send infected mail server itself. > >Plea= se send in plain text, wrapping the lines at 76 characters, or less. = > > >From what I can understand, you have PCs infected by vi= ruses which are >directly sending mail out, and getting your exter= nal IP blacklisted. > >The correct solution to this is to= implement a packet filter which >blocks port 25 outbound, and ens= ures that outbound connections come only > from your real outbound= MTA. > >The logs from this packet filtering firewall wil= l also tell you which >systems are infected by viruses. > >Devdas Bhagat > >-- >http://mm.ilug-b= om.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers [1] [] References 1. 3D"http://clients.rediff.com/signature/track_sig.asp"

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Sendmail Filtering
by Mangesh V Rakhunde 06 Nov '04

06 Nov '04

Hi my question was i run sendmail server configured with = smtp-auth. Is there any way where i can filter the mails or discar= d the mails having infected attachments. On Sat,= 06 Nov 2004 Devdas Bhagat wrote : >On 06/11/04 08:23 -0000, Mange= sh V Rakhunde wrote: > > I run a mail server i.e sendmail= o configured SMTP auth. > > > > > = > > > My problem is mails. Many machines = in and they just send infected mail server itself. = > >Please send in plain text, wrapping the lines at 76 chara= cters, or less. > > >From what I can understand, you h= ave PCs infected by viruses which are >directly sending mail out, = and getting your external IP blacklisted. > >The correct = solution to this is to implement a packet filter which >blocks por= t 25 outbound, and ensures that outbound connections come only > f= rom your real outbound MTA. > >The logs from this packet = filtering firewall will also tell you which >systems are infected = by viruses. > >Devdas Bhagat > >-- = >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers [1] [adstream_nx=] = References 1. 3D"http://clients.rediff.com/signature

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Sendmail Filtering
by Mangesh V Rakhunde 06 Nov '04

06 Nov '04

Hi all I run a mail server i.e sendmail o= n fedora core 2. I have configured SMTP auth. My problem is = I want to reject all incoming or outgoing infected mails. Many machines in = our organisation are infected with viruses and they just send infected mail= s. Can I filter them on my mail server itself. Regards <= BR> Mangesh [1] [Re=] References 1. 3D"http://clien=/

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] My PC won't start...Please help!
by Sarfaraz Kazi 06 Nov '04

06 Nov '04

> > > Sorry about the OT-ness and length of this post. If > > anybody could provide > > any help, I'll be infinitely thankful. > > only way we could help you is if you send the machine as an > attachment to the > list so we can examine it -:) > > kg mebbe i can ask scotty to beam it up!!!:-) sarfaraz. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] My PC won't start...Please help!
by Sarfaraz Kazi 06 Nov '04

06 Nov '04

> > the system went off in the middle of the installation > > process. now when i > > start the machine, the fans work, hdd works, cd drive > > works but i don't get > > any display and no POST,i.e., i'm not getting the > > single beep on boot. the > > hdd activity led stays constantly on. indicates some > > problem with bios. does > > it has to do anything with the fact that i changed the > > cmos battery while > > the system was down? > > Check your processor and then MB if your processor works well on > another MB. unfortunately, i don't have another system to cross-check the processor with. > Cross check is the best way to narrow down the posibilities. Remove your > processor and refit the assembly, maybe contact problems. This > does not have > anything to do with software installation. i'll try this out. > > Rony. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] My PC won't start...Please help!
by Sarfaraz Kazi 06 Nov '04

06 Nov '04

> It is possible that some part of your motherboard is touching the > base plate of > the cabinet. In such situations the system doesn't boot up. This > *could* have > happened when you depressed the board to install the new CMOS battery. Try > lifting up the board a little with your finger tip. I usually > have insulation > between the board and base plate. > Could be, Could be not, Couldn't say for sure. > > Vivek checked out this possibility. no luck still! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] My PC won't start...Please help!
by Sarfaraz Kazi 06 Nov '04

06 Nov '04

> > hdd activity led stays constantly on. indicates some > > When you put in the new SMPS, did you disconnect/reconnect the > HDD activity LED wire ? > > > -- > quasi > > Utopia Unlimited! yes, i took out all the connectors before putting in the new smps. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] online monitoring of log files on gnu-linux, aix and hp-ux
by Eshwar Ponraj 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

Hi, I don't have any pointers but this idea might help If you could enable passwordless ssh login to all machines, thru ssh, grep your log files with a pattern and redirect output to a file in those machines, scp that output file into a master node and check if file empty, good else not alert thru mail / console. Good Luck ----- Original Message ----- From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> To: ILUG-BOM <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Subject: [ILUG-BOM] online monitoring of log files on gnu-linux, aix and hp-ux Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:32:37 -0800 (PST) > > > Morning Guys/Gals, > > Me has an urgent need of advice from your end. > Hoping for some pointers. > > For one of TCS's client we have configured Nagios > and a host of other GPL'ed applns top aid him in > Network Monitoring as part of a very large project. > This last problem has me stumped. > > In my network consisting of purely > AIX/Gnu-Linux/HP-UX i have to provide a single console > for monitoring all logs and trigger an alert/alarm as > soon as a particular message comes up in the logs. > These logs will be both system and application logs > and hence the messages to be tracked has to be > customisable. > > Lemme know if someone has had this problem solved > before or has any inkling of what appln we can make > use of. > > Trevor > > > > ===== > |------|____________________________________|------| > ( >- / Scaling FreeSoftware & OpenSource \ -< ) > /~\ / In the Enterprise \ /~\ > | \) \ | www.fsf.org | www.opensource.org | / (/ | > |_|_ \____________________________________/ _|_| > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. > www.yahoo.com > > > > -- > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > -- ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] My PC won't start...Please help!
by Sarfaraz Kazi 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

> It is possible that some part of your motherboard is touching the > base plate of > the cabinet. In such situations the system doesn't boot up. This > *could* have > happened when you depressed the board to install the new CMOS battery. Try > lifting up the board a little with your finger tip. I usually > have insulation > between the board and base plate. > Could be, Could be not, Couldn't say for sure. > > Vivek Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check it out. By the way, what do you use as insulation material? I'm using foam padding kind of stuff that came with the board's packaging. Sarfaraz. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] pacenet connection - steps to follow
by Vivek J.Patankar 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

On Thu Nov 4 23:12 , 'Rony Bill' <ronbilly(a)hotpop.com> sent: >This means that some ppp setting will need to be setup just as we do in >dialup. The cable guy did not mention this. He simply said to make ip >configuration automatic and thats it. Maybe he missed this point. > >Rony. He didn't miss a point. IP Address, DNS & Gateway are part of the network configuration. My anology of his statement is that he is a Windows user who is used to configuring all three in the same dialog box. Vivek ---- Get Urchin 6 On Demand web analytics. Because you can't wait to be found. http://www.urchin.com/?utm_campaign=U6OD&utm_medium=email&source=spymac.com…

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] My PC won't start...Please help!
by Vivek J.Patankar 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

On Thu Nov 4 23:39 , Sarfaraz Kazi <sarzkazi(a)yahoo.com> sent: >process. now when i >start the machine, the fans work, hdd works, cd drive >works but i don't get >any display and no POST,i.e., i'm not getting the >single beep on boot. the >hdd activity led stays constantly on. indicates some >problem with bios. does >it has to do anything with the fact that i changed the >cmos battery while >the system was down? It is possible that some part of your motherboard is touching the base plate of the cabinet. In such situations the system doesn't boot up. This *could* have happened when you depressed the board to install the new CMOS battery. Try lifting up the board a little with your finger tip. I usually have insulation between the board and base plate. Could be, Could be not, Couldn't say for sure. Vivek ---- Get Urchin 6 On Demand web analytics. Because you can't wait to be found. http://www.urchin.com/?utm_campaign=U6OD&utm_medium=email&source=spymac.com…

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[COMMERCIAL] Red Hat openings
by Jatin Nansi 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

Hi all, Red Hat is participating in the BIG LEAP, an IT job fair organised by TIMESJOBS.com. This event is scheduled on Nov.6th & 7th, 2004 between 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. Venue : Sardar Patel College of Engineering- Bhavan's, Andheri(W), Mumbai The available openings are in the following areas: * Linux System Administrators * Sr. System Engineer ( C/ C++ / QT / J2EE / GTK on Unix / Linux) * Consultants for Linux Implementation * Solution Architect / Pre-Sales Consultant * Linux Instructors Regards Jatin

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pacenet connection - steps to follow
by rohit bhute 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

I've read through the archives for pacenet problems. 1. I used the pppoe command. Does that mean I've rp-pppoe installed ? 2. What exactly do I tell the pacenet people when I tell them to create a linux user for me ? 3. I have Fedora Core 2 updates. Can I use them on Core 1 ? -- Take back the Web - Get Firefox Rohit V. Bhute Mumbai

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Knoppix for Gamers
by komal 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14576 Regards Komal

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