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Hardware: HDD Query
by Sachin 19 Sep '02

19 Sep '02

hi there, i am having trouble with Samsung 40GB hard disk HDD detection on my linux 7.0 and 440 BX/LX VIA Mother Board with 64 mb ram sachin

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] could not delete directory
by Sankha Subhra Som 19 Sep '02

19 Sep '02

Some other options . . . (1) perl program through command line perl -e 'rmdir "--\(a)app.7"' (2) perl program through STDIN perl rmdir "--\(a)app.7" (3) Simplest of all (I should have given this answer first!) rmdir ./--(a)app.7 -- SANKHA SUBHRA SOM ATC - BIOINFORMATICS TCS KLK BUILDING. HYDERABAD-1 Ph:(040)6787980-1024 ******************************************************** An anonymous digitoid ******************************************************** Do not try to live forever. You will not succeed.

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Does anyone have RH 7.3 CDs
by Abhijeet 19 Sep '02

19 Sep '02

Hi Friends Does anyone of you have RedHat Linux 7.3 CDs I have access to a cd writer and I want to burn a copy of the cds regards Abhijeet

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How to crack root
by Mohd Iqbal Mohsin 19 Sep '02

19 Sep '02

Hi I was used your method echo '....................................| dc The ouput like this A RIL OL so what i do next

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Re: [LIH] could not delete directory
by Archan 19 Sep '02

19 Sep '02

#rmdir "\-\-\(a)app.7" iti Archan Philip S Tellis wrote: >On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Hiten Desai wrote: > > > >>I am trying to delete >>directory with the following name >>--(a)app.7 (which is autogenerated by amavis) >> >> > >rm -rf ./--(a)app.7 > >this is mentioned somewhere in some manual, I think in the linux FAQ. > > >

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] MASM in Linux
by quasar＠vsnl.net 19 Sep '02

19 Sep '02

nikhiljoshi(a)subdimension.com wrote >i tried to run MASM in Linux using dosemu+freedos There is also NASM native to Linux.

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burning RH cds
by Gurpreet Singh 19 Sep '02

19 Sep '02

hi luggerz some of u might laugh on this but.... have a prob, i tried writing a RH installation cd on a blank cd, but the new cd is'nt bootable.... now how do i make those CDs bootable?? to write CDs i was using windows and the HP application 'coz the writer is not mine and the system that has the writer is not mine, so have to bare up. plz comment Gurpreet

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popularizing linux@ sangli.... CS Subjects
by Gurpreet Singh 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

hi there was some discussion abt the subjects in CS at Sangli (or Shivaji Univ formally). Ok i'll list a few important ones up here. SE * Data Structures * C++ TE * Comp Networks.... OSI, TCP/IP, all layers and the basic protocols * Systems Programming .... Parsers n stuff * OS 1 general study of systems just the basic algos * OS 2 study of unix filesystem *Compiler Construction * Databse Engg... basic stuff BE * Internet Tech .. dns, ftp, telnet, mail systems etc etc etc * Advanced Data base Systems .... object oriented db study * Distributed Computing * Web Technology... XML, DOM, XLS, Java Servelets and server pages, ASP, CORBA, * Data warehousing and E Commerce.... Now i dont know anything abt this gurpreet

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good FTP server?
by akshaysalkar 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] could not delete directory
by Sankha Subhra Som 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

Hiten,Anil,Philip . . ., try rmdir -- '--(a)app.7' Enjoy!!! Sankha -- SANKHA SUBHRA SOM ATC - BIOINFORMATICS TCS KLK BUILDING. HYDERABAD-1 Ph:(040)6787980-1024 ******************************************************** An anonymous digitoid ******************************************************** Do not try to live forever. You will not succeed.

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[OT] MASM in Linux
by Nikhil Joshi 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

Hi! i tried to run MASM in Linux using dosemu+freedos but i get the following error: Phar Lap err 35: The 386 chip is currently executing in virtual 8086 mode under the control of another program. You must turn off this other program in order to use 386|DOS-Extender to run in protected mode. will i b able to run MASM ? or do i hav to resort to inline assembly ? (Turbo C works fine in dosemu) BTW can ny1 tell wot the error means nd how did the program come to know abt all the stuff ... (I guess the error means : u r running 386 in real mode , switch to protected mode. right ? ) Also I'm confused : DOS is supposed to work in real mode right ? -- Thx Nikhil

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[COMMERCIAL] Mkt & Sales exec. required
by Poonam P 17 Sep '02

17 Sep '02

Hi, The company I work for is looking for 4 Linux Sales & Mkt execs. IF anyone in this group / or any known person is interested pls email me in private & I will give all the details. regards, Poonam. ________________________________________________________________________ Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, Yahoo! TV. visit http://in.tv.yahoo.com

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Network help
by santosh patil 17 Sep '02

17 Sep '02

Hi all !! i tried network in linux-to-linux computers as well as linux-to-windows computers. The problem, which i am facing is, when i installed samba protocol, i am able to access windows computer from linux computer(all files and folders available on windows computer), but from windows computer, i can get only hardware level connectivity, i.e. only ping is working, i am getting a reply for ping. But neither i can see linux computer in network neighbourhood nor from run utility, it is only one way connection. When i tried networking in linux-to-linux computer. To do that, i have done following steps.. 1.Install network in both linux computers. 2.Checked hardware level connectivity. 3. share directory from linux computer, from /etc/exports file & start demon services again. But when i tried to acces shared directory from another linux computer using mount command, i get the message permission denied, when i have given full control to any user for the workgroup. Pls. help me on this matter. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines

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ipsec
by upendra gandhi 17 Sep '02

17 Sep '02

hi all i want to use two machines as gateways as vpn for connecting two corporates also i want to use IPsec as firewall what can i do now??? ===== upendra gandhi CIW ASSOCIATE (Server Admin.Internetworking Professional, Security Professional) http://home.graffiti.net/upengan78 upengan78(a)hotmail.com pengan78(a)linuxfreemail.com upengan78(a)epatra.com upengan78(a)graffiti.net upengan1978(a)netscape.net upengan78(a)hotpop.com "THE LIVING GOD IS WITHIN YOU" Dearest 'swami vivekananda' __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com

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anyone for RHCE?
by akshaysalkar 17 Sep '02

17 Sep '02

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] popularizing linux@ sangli.... CS Subjects
by Dinesh Shah 16 Sep '02

16 Sep '02

Hi Trevor, I am available for 5/6 Oct. 2002. If required any assistance from me let me know. You know that no programing stuff from me. So I don't know how will I be usefull in your seminar. But, in any case, I will be there if require. And don't pull last minute surprises. Pls plan in advance and inform me in advance. :-) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 23:30:40 -0700 (PDT) > 802.11b, bluetooth......Embedded gnu-linux, RTOS, > gnu-linux clusters........we can go on...nd on, but > after all vry1 justs wanna get out of the RUT. Think > itz from then on that they hav the capability to > work/avoid working on what they like. With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System dinesh(a)indiamail.com http://dineshah.tripod.com Mobile: 98213-11906

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Option to LILO
by WERNER K HEISENBERG 16 Sep '02

16 Sep '02

>Hi all, >how can give options to LILO at boot time? In earlier >versions, with the text version of LILO, it was very easy. schnitt--- Try These : At the Graphical Prompt, press Control+x and you should get: lilo: Enter the following. Try them one at a time, of course 1. Press Tab to see the labels assigned to your boot images 2. linux single --> to get you into maintenance mode 3. linux vga=ask --> to see the various screen modes your card supports. Try typing 'scan' here to get more options 4. linux emergency read /usr/src/linux-9.9/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt Brgds Werner _____________________________________________________________ Play the Elvis� Scratch & Win for your chance to instantly win $10,000 Cash - a 2003 Harley Davidson� Sportster� - 1 of 25,000 CD's - and more! http://r.lycos.com/r/sagel_mail_scratch_tl/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos…

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Request to hold a Seminar on Linux
by Sabarish Viswanathan 16 Sep '02

16 Sep '02

Dear Sir, We,the students of Sardar Patel College of Engineering have decided to organise a seminar/workshop on Linux as we did last year.If you could give us your tel. no. we'll be able to discuss the further details. Thank you. Your's faithfully, Balasubramanian V. SPCE ________________________________________________________________________ Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, Yahoo! TV. visit http://in.tv.yahoo.com

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LinuxInIndia#6: Penguin's Mantra, Funding On Way,LinuxBangalore2002
by Frederick Noronha 16 Sep '02

16 Sep '02

GNU _ _____ _____ http://linuxinindia.pitas.com | | (_) |_ _| |_ _| | |_ | | _ _ __ _ ___ __ | | _ __ | | _ __ __| (_) ___ | | | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / | | | '_ \ | | | '_ \ / _` | |/ _ \ | |____| | | | | |_| |> < _| |_| | | |_| |_| | | | (_| | | (_) | |______|_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\_____|_| |_|_____|_| |_|\__,_|_|\__,_| CopyLeft2002 GNU/GPL v2 OR LATER * ISSUE006 * SEPT 13, 2002 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Co-edited by Frederick Noronha and Parag Mehta <pm at linuxindia dot org> * ARCHIVES/SIGN-UP: http://www.freelists.org/archives/linuxinindia +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In this issue o Indian language solutions for GNU/Linux o Want money to help you make Free Software? Here's some... o Made-in-Delhi accounting software o Gearing up for LinuxBangalore2002 (Dec 3-5, 2002) o Development by Design conference in India o Kids play around with GNU/Linux... and the results are... o CDAC lab goes in for GNU/Linux... and lot's more. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ THE PENGUIN'S MANTRA: Efforts are on to find Indian language solutions to GNU/Linux in the subcontinent that matters. Some call Indic and other South Asian scripts the final challenge to computer vendors for full i18n support. It has taken its time in coming, the challenges are not that simple, and successes have been few and far between. Yet optimism is high now. Can this frontier be conquered early? Technical challenges are certainly not few: the X rendering model is too simple for Indic scripts (but an upcoming tutorial on the Indic Computing site will have the nitty-gritty). Input for Indian languages is an open issue. Most `keyboard solutions' available today for X are fragile and are really more work-arounds than solutions. Some say the principal problem is rendering conjuncts without proper rendering engines and properly encoded fonts. Users want to type a sequence of characters, and not concern themselves with the details of rendering. This requires fonts with appropriate tables giving the possible character sequences and the glyphs for rendering each, and an engine that knows to read the tables. What are the varied initiatives are currently on in various parts of the country. What could be the proper strategic approach? Which issues should be tackled first? See an article http://www.freelists.org/archives/linuxinindia +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SMALL MEET AT BANGALORE: A small meeting on Indianisation of computing (including GNU/Linux) is being organised at Bangalore on Sept 15-16. Contact tap2k(a)yahoo.com (Tapan Parikh) if you'd like to get into the loop and join the campaign. This is a by-invite meet, but everyone is welcome to share ideas in the ongoing search to find long-awaited solutions. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PERL MODULE FOR INDIAN LANGUAGE I/O: Thanks to M K Saravanan <mksarav(a)comp.nus.edu.sg> Perl module to handle Indian Language I/O http://acharya.iitm.ac.in/perl_enhance.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ INDIC COMPUTING: If interested in these subjects, do join the indic-computing mailing lists, and also the indlinux mailing lists. Often a lot of discussion regarding indic localisation happens on these lists. http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net http://www.indlinux.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GPL (GENERAL PUBLIC LICENCE) IN MALAYALAM: An attempt to translate the GPL into Malayalam. At present, the preamble is completed. From Mahesh T Pai. See http://in.geocities.com/paivakil/freecommunity/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ TAMIL DESKTOP IN KDE9, BETA4: Vasudevan <vasu_a(a)cyberwaveindia.com> of ILUG-Chennai notes he has "successfully configured the Tamil desktop in kde9beta4, with advice from Parbhu_Anand from cooker development, which we struggled (with) at last Linux Expo unsucessfully." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FLOSS-SARAI INITIATIVE: No money in Free/Libre Open Source Software (FLOSS)? A new initiative might help to change that for some youngsters in India. The Sarai Programme, Centre for the Study of Developing Societies, Delhi (www.sarai.net) invites applications for Support Grants to projects in the area of Free Software, Open Source Software and Social Usage of Software Sarai invites programmers (practitioners as well as students) to propose projects in the area of free and open source software applications relevant to educational, social and community needs. We are looking for original ideas, as well as proposals to localize and adapt existing software and applications to South Asian conditions. For example - Desk-tops in Hindi, Open Office and Gimp in Hindi. Lighter versions of desktops like KDE, Innovations that creatively optimises older lower configuration machines, Linux documentation in Hindi, games using local context, etc. Conditions: Applicants should be resident in India, and should have a bank account in any bank operating in India. These are support grants and grantees will be free to pursue their primary occupations, if any. Mail your project proposal, work-plan and CV to both the following addresses: <application(a)sarai.net> with a copy to <fred(a)bytesforall.org>. Please mark your subject-line 'FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) Initiative'. Also point out what you see as the relevance of your work, and how you plan to share the resultant software once finalised. Enquires: dak(a)sarai.net Last date for submission: October 15th, 2002. Note: Proposals from teams, partnerships, collectives, faculty are welcome, so long as the grant amount is administered by a single individual, and the funds are deposited in a single bank account in the name of an individual. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FREESPEECH.ORG, COMMUNITY SITE FOR LINUXERS: Himanshu <himanshu_s(a)myrealbox.com> has something to announce: "I launched my new site, http://www.thefreespeech.org which is basically a community web site for Linuxers. Its main aim is "to initiate, collaborate and contribute" to the linux cause. The site itself, is home to the ILUG-BOM's novel "Project Resource Centre" idea, which will help ease the collaboration between students undertaking linux projects and self appointed "mentors". I guess, in the future it will also be home to dead projects, or very small projects/scripts, which have not been (or are to small to be) hosted at Sourceforge." http://www.thefreespeech.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DEVELOPED-IN-DELHI ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE: Sudhir Gandotra <sudhir(a)netshooter.com> announces that they've recently launched 'Kalculate' <www.kalculate.com>, a developed-in-Delhi software. It was worked on using C, GTK and PostgreSQL on the GNU/Linux platform. It promises to be the "first financial accounting package on GNU/Linux in India and the Asia-Pacific". Incidentally, the Indian 'IT' magazine in their September 2002 issue have carried the standard version of 'Kalculate'. This can be used for single-company accounting. The multi-company version, priced at Rs 10,000 (approx US$200), will be available to users of this version at Rs.3500 if they register and place their order by 31 Oct 2002, under a special promotion campaign, according to Gandotra. Rajesh Kankaria <rk(a)coralindia.com> points out that he had also worked on an accounting software developed on GNU/Linux around two years ago. But "due to poor response I didn't pursue it further", says he. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GETTING FREE SOFTWARE BOOKS TO INDIA: Systems Research Institute executive director Prof J G Krishnayya <jkrishnayya(a)yahoo.com> of Pune, who appreciates the worth of Free Software/Open Source, is keen to find ways of re-printing and distributing Free Software books in India. Contact him if you see any possibilities. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GEARING UP FOR LINUX-BANGALORE 2002: Bangalore GNU/Linux enthusiasts are to hold LB2002, a major meet on December 3/4/5 2002, J.N.Tata Auditorium, Bangalore, India. Last year's meet attracted a few thousand participants! http://linux-bangalore.org/2002/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DEVELOPMENT BY DESIGN CONF IN BANGALORE: The Second International "development by design" Conference will be held in Bangalore, India on December 1-2, 2002. The paper submission deadline has been extended to October 7, according to Leo Burd <leoburd(a)media.mit.edu> of MIT Media Lab. About dyd02: This conference seeks to establish critical dialogue towards open collaboration in sustainable technology, design and development. We invite diverse perspectives from academia, industry, nonprofit organizations, and independent innovators. You can submit a full paper, poster, video abstract or position paper online. Student projects will be shown in a design exhibition at the conference. http://www.thinkcycle.org/dyd02 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ WHAT HAPPENS WHEN UNDER-PRIVILEGED kids lay their hands on GNU/Linux? See the results at http://www.digitalequalizer.org/kids.htm Daryl Martyris <dmartyris(a)hotmail.com> argues that this experiment clearly hints that that school-age children are able to effectively and quickly learn to the basic uses of computers without any formal training. Not just that, they also used GNU/Linux-based PCs. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ INDIA'S SUPER-COMPUTING AGENCY GOES FOR GNU/LINUX (Reuters) : Aug 12 reports say India's Centre for Development of Advanced Computing, which makes supercomputers used for heavy-duty data processing, said it had decided to use open source Linux software in a high-performance computing lab. The Pune-based state agency, whose machines are used for advanced computing functions in activities such as oil exploration and weather forecasting, will use a Linux platform customised by International Business Machines. "The selection of Linux public software and its deployment by C-DAC (the centre) will provide a boost to the research activities of the scientific community in India," C-DAC and IBM said in a joint statement. Founded in 1988, C-DAC is a state-run research and development firm which has built four versions of its Param series of supercomputer machines. It also earns revenue from selling Indian regional language software and by training high-tech engineers. C-DAC's new laboratory will start operations in Bangalore later this year, the statement said. "We are using Linux only for a specific lab and have not yet decided whether to adopt it across all our applications," R.K. Arora, C-DAC executive director, told Reuters. http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-20260575- 0.html?tag=ats +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GNOWLEDGE NETWORKING AND ORGANIZING SYSTEM, GNOWSYS: Dr. Nagarjuna G. works in Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, Tata Institute of Fundamental Research as a Reader. He works in the area of Science Education, Metacognitive studies, History and Philosophy of Science, and is an advocate of Free Software for Education and Research. Currently developing an expert system for knowledge management called "GNOWSYS: Gnowledge Networking and Organizing System" developed in Python and Zope. He is the coordinator of the centre's portal site development project for science and mathematics education. Contact Nagarjuna G. <nagarjun(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FLOSS STUDY: From the ILUG-Chennai mailing list. Ravi Rao reports: Free/Libre and Open Source Software ;; Survey and Study -- FLOSS ;; Final Report http://www.infonomics.nl/FLOSS/report/Final4.htm Makes a very interesting read ... ;/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SIMPUTER, LOOKING FORWARD TO IT: More on the Simputer (the commonman's computing device, driven by GNU/Linux) from huiswerk345(a)yahoo.com, from Paul Soetmulder, Encore Technologies (S) Pte Ltd : Bad news: We only hand out limited number of SDK's (software developer kits) at this point in time, to both customers and partners. We want to stay focused on 100% success rate for all our customer projects, and we hope you appreciate this approach. Our customers and partners do. Some good news: Yes the project is moving "full steam" ahead and soon we will surprise you with reference clients, available applications and other news on a new dedicated website. Some more good news: Yes many partners have already signed up to work with us in developing solutions. Countries represented in our partner network cover Japan, Asia, Australia, Africa, India, Europe and USA. We still have some countries missing in each continent. Want to join this group of mobile computing pioneers, its only one email away. And more good news: Please note that all Encore Simputers production planned for the months August/ September time-frame have been taken up. At this moment we share to our best capability the units available among partners and customers. Our partners and customers support this as we deliver the solutions and benefits they need. The best news for Partners: Also October orders exceed production levels, although I have made reservations for "2 Encore Simputers" for next 100 pioneer partners" (in addition to 2 units for existing partners who have placed their orders) for October 15th time-frame. First come first served. Want to become pioneer partner, please email our CEO, Mr. Ravi Desiraju at ravi_desiraju(a)ncoretech.com. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ INSTALLING L.T.S: Baiju M <malayalamlinux(a)yahoo.com> informs that more details about installing LTS systems are available in GNU/Linux Utilities for Education CDROM (GLUE CD). All necessary packages are available in that CDROM. You can read the proposal by Ajith Kumar here: http://malayalamlinux.sourceforge.net/edu/proposal-by-ajith.html It gives all details about hardware costs, advantages of LTS systems etc. Says Baiju: "Now I am fully involved in Malayalam GNU/Linux Project. So that you contact Free Software User Group Kozhikode members for more details. (I CC'ed his mail to the group mailing list). You can get the latest CDROM from Rajeesh (ph:0495 355415) If you asking the the CDROM for installing in any school, FSUG will give it you without any cost. If you are from TVM you can contact me (just drom me a mail). There is another FSUG group at Kochi (I think Raghavendra Bhat, a member of that group has got that CDROM)." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GNU/LINUX COUNTER: Eighteen million guestimated GNU/Linux users; how many from India? Please fill in your details at http://counter.li.org/ If you know someone who could volunteer to push forward this counter in regional Indian states, please contact harald(a)alvestrand.no with a cc marked to rproton(a)yahoo.co.uk, pm(a)linuxindia.org and ghane(a)dotxtra.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ INTRODUCTORY COURSE: From Patrice Reimens <patrice(a)xs4all.nl>, a Dutch friend and fan of India. Check the Open Source/Free Software introductory course by Lisa Haskell for students. Very nice intro, full of useful pointers. http://mediaartprojects.org.uk/current/open_source_course/ Says he: "Lisa is now doing http://tech2.southspace.org (programme, thin) and http://tech2.southspace.net (diary, fat) in Lancaster." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DATABASE OF HACKERS: Tripta <tripta(a)sarai.net> from New Delhi points to http://orbiten.org and says: "I am not sure whether you are aware of this survey but does provide interesting perspectives. I am planning to conduct a survey/research amongst the `hackers' involved in the movement to trace and identify the pattern of the development of free software movement.... I was wondering if you could send me the list of the `open source projects' being conducted by individuals/groups/organizations...I am attempting to create a database as mentioned earlier, identify the pattern and seek for avenues of possible collaborations." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PROCURING CDs: Abhijeet More <abhijeetmore(a)rolta.net> suggests the following sources for GNU/Linux CDs: http://www.linuxplaza.org * http://www.indiainfotech.org Navin Dhanuka <navin_dhanuka(a)yahoo.com> says of IndiaInfoTech.org: "Dhiraj Thakur & Sheetal Chopra are doing a great job by serving the free software community with latest linux distros at affordable costs. I got Debian 3.0 at just Rs 50 a CD. That's real cheap and affordable as student Says Amol Hatwar <amolhatwar(a)rediffmail.com>: "I got the same at 30/- at linuxplaza.org. And yes Prahant Shah does a good job too." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GETTING STARTED WITH GNU/LINUX: Some tips from: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> who says these are good places were to start learning GNU/Linux: --> RH linux 7.2 Unleashed(Sams.net) --> Linux in 24 Hrs (Sams.net) --> www.tldp.org (Dos-Windoze-howto...to start with, the rest u can figure out what u can read up and what interests you. I havent seen any classes in Bombay that are worth it. Just stick to the books/sites and ask us when you screw up with anything.) Trevor Warren is an active member of the Mumbai (Bombay) LUG. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ MAIL FROM AUROVILLE: From just next to India's own Little France, on the east coast, the place known as Auroville someone <netadmin(a)auroville.org.in> writes in to say: "Can some one suggest an easy to use web interface that can be installed on a Linux mail server for web based mail access?? I live in Auroville, near Pondicherry and we have been running Redhat 6.2 set up by a Nexus guy with more than 800 mail boxes. There is IMP (for web based mail access) and sendmail doing the job. We wish to be independent and need some help in this regards. Any tips on SMTP authentication is welcome. Auroville is an interesting place to visit and maybe help us with our Linux setup. Adequate compensation is part of the deal :-) please respond, thanks." MEA CULPA: Mita <mita(a)auroville.org.in> from Auroville has drawn our notice to some errors in three paragraphs of the last issue of this ezine (LinuxInIndia#5). Unlike mentioned earlier, Mukund does not live at Auroville, but in London, and only visited Av during his studies at Pondicherry University. He did not work for Ximian, Inc, and hasn't worked on gtkhtml or gimp. There were other inaccuracies in the description of Mukund and Karthik Ram (an ecologist, but not connected with GNU/Linux). We apologise sincerely for any misunderstandings created. -FN +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ COMPUTER EDUCATION IN KERALA, GOING WHICH WAY?: Ajith Kumar <ajith(a)nsc.ernet.in> is disappointed with what's happening on the education front in Kerala. He comments: "Visit the site http://www.keralaeducation.org/itschool/project.htm and find out how the IT (schools project) has been sold of to contractors." Check out his alternative proposal. "In order to implement the project government certainly need to set some guidelines regarding the objectives and quality of the program. This could have been done simply by drafting a proper syllabus and insist on covering that syllabus and also specifying the number of hours each student get for theory and practicals. But what has been done is allowing few private agencies to exploit the poor students and paving way to waste precious foreign exchange by promoting the products of a Multinational Corporation." Write to Ajith for a full-text of his proposal... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ COST-EFFECTIVE SYSTEM USING GNU/LINUX: Ajith goes on to note that GNU/Linux also has software to reduce the hardware cost by using diskless PCs. Hardware cost of setting up a 10 terminal system is less than Rs 200,000 (US$4000) and each additional PC costs around Rs.14,000. The government, he argues, should help the schools to mobilize the initial investment to acquire this setup and in th long run every school will have a good computer lab. If it cannot do that, it should not become a burden to schools by forcing them to depend on a few selected agencies. By seeing the guidelines it is clear that the motive behind selecting few agencies is not ensuring quality but to open up another area for corruption. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ON AN Ipaq: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> has loaded GNU/Linux on an Ipaq h3850. Says he: "As of now, my research areas are localisation of GNU/Linux on these personal access devices." See http://mlasia.mine.nu/ipaq/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SEE PICTURES IN CONSOLE MODE (FRAME MODE): Blinston (aka Asterix Baron) who's email address echoes that Shakespearean dilemma <b2ornot2b(a)yahoo.com> has written a small program called cjpg which allows you to view JPEG files whilst in the console mode (frame buffer). Says he: "If anyone can help me out by testing this program on various graphics cards and different modes to iron out all bugs ... well it worked on my SiS530 with all the modes i could try." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa/files/cjpg-0.1.tar.gz +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PYTHON FOR SCHOOLKIDS: Says Raju Mathur <raju(a)linux-delhi.org>: Been thinking about learning/teaching programming for school-goers and Python seems to be more of the right choice than ever. It's clean, well-supported under both Linux and Windows, object-oriented and has a fairly large set of libraries for basic functionality available. Now if only they'd fix the syntax of the damn language I may even start using it myself ;-) Anyhow, I don't know if you're aware of the wxWindows project? It's a C++ graphical library which runs under multiple platforms (Windows, Linux, Unix, etc) and, here's the beauty, provides a consistent interface to the native windowing systems of the platform that it runs on. So a wxWindows program running on Windows would use the native Windows toolkit while one running on Linux would use, e.g. GTK+ (the Gnome toolkit). Apps written in wxWindows thus have the look and feel of the platform they're running on...." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NOTES FROM THE REST OF ASIA: Thanks to Bala Pillai <bala(a)tamil.net> for this input: "The most interactive open source/Linux community in our time zone/Asia springs out of the Philippines. Primarily because the Filipino psyche is a more secure psyche, a more self-confident pyche. Folks who are self-confident worry about the future less, and allocate more time diagnosing and solving problems rather than echoing and reechoing it. Filipinos are also more into sharing and online sharing - we should look to more symbiosis with them. Manila-based Miguel Paraz whom I have interacted with since 1996, is a key catalyst in the Filipino Linux community. http://www.q-linux.com is a good starting point to get a feel for the key Open Source catalysts in the Philippines. KL,Malaysia-based Dinesh who runs http://www.alphaque.com is another lead Open Source catalyst in our timezone. Do look for symbiosis opportunities there too." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FROM THE DEVELOPERiq: Some updates from the August 2002 issue of DeveloperIQ, an Indian software magazine published from Bangalore. www.developeriq.com LINUXmag section has a special article on how to compile your own Linux kernel, by Philip de Groot. On the CD: Corel Photo-Paint 9 for Linux. Special DeveloperIQ Linux applications collection CDs: RedHat 7.2, 2 CDs Rs 299 RedHat 7.3, 5 CDs Rs 699 Caldera OpenLinux - Workstation 3.1.1, 2 CDs Rs 199 Caldera OpenLinux - Server 3.1.1., 2 CDs Rs 199 Mandrake 8.2, 3 CDs Rs 499 with support Rs 999 Debian 2.2, 3 CDs Rs 499 or with support Rs 999 (support for 30 days or 30 e-mails, whichever earlier) LINUX MAG INDIA-on-CD: 18 Cs in a year. Rs 1499. Get a whole lot of Linux apps and the latest updates. Log on to www.linuxmagindia.com for full details. Five CD starter kit contains RedHat 7.2, Openoffice 1.0, Galeon 1.2.1, KDE 3.0, Mozilla Internet suite 1.0rc2, Netscape 6.2.1, Acrobat reader 4.05, Gimp 1.2.3, Ximian Gnome 1.4, Kmail 1.0.29.2, gqmpeg 0.12.0, Etherape 0.8.2, Kyahoo 0.7, Image 0.1.9, Qcad 1.4.7, Blender 2.12, Cross Artist 1.1, sfront 0.7 and more Development tools: j2re1.4.0, j2sdk1.4.0, j2sdk1.4.0Forte, Redhat 7.2 manuals: installation guide, getting started guide, customization guide, reference guide, release notes, MySQL 3.23 a Redhat RPM, server (i386), Behcnmark/test suites, client program, libraries and header file for development, client shared libraries, binary package, Glade, Anjuta 0.1.7, clip 0.93, DDD 3.3.1, DejaGNU 1.4.2, gIDE 0.3.5, GNU Debugger 5.0, gnome debut 0.1.5, jDBA 0.7, KDE SDK 2.2.1, Open DAP 2.0.19, pyut 1.0, Libtool 1.4.2 and more ENTERTAINMENT: Half-life Opposing Force Server, Trophy 1.0.1, Tux Racer 0.61, Mojoworld Transporter 1.02, Search and Resume Game, Q3Text (Linux)1.07, Armagetron, abuse-SDL0.6.0, Vega Strike 0.2.0-14, 4st Attack Version, SDL_Paradroid, EasySok Version: 0.3.0., FreeDroid 0.7.0, Decopter Version 0.2.3, Penguin Command Version, gf passthru Version; 0.0.1-alpha, Iter Vehemens Ad Necem Version 0.311, Operation Blacksun 2 Version. Send your comments and feedback to ramdas(a)developeriq.com (Editor Ramdas) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ UPDATES FROM i.t. INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY: It calls itself "the magazine for techies and those who want to be"): * Simputer team gets first Dewang Mehta award. ("The [GNU/Linux-based] Simputer places computing power in the hands of the masses. It has a wide range of applications such as microbanking, data collection, Internet access, agricultural information, the school laboratory, the kiosk Simputer, smart card, general purpose citizen's ID card, driving licence, land records, income tax records, passport, bank pass-book and digital cash.") * Included on this CD: ComunigatePRO (scalable, standards-compliant and feature-rich Internet mailing server), Kalculate (complete Indian accounting package for GNU/Linux users), MySQL-Front 1.16, etc. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ WOULD YOU LIKE TO VOLUNTEER TO PROMOTE THIS LETTER? WRITE IN AND TELL US WHAT IDEAS YOU HAVE IN MIND. CONTACT fred(a)bytesforall.org ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ It is not possible to verify all claims made by our informants above. We have attributed statements, as far as possible, to ensure that readers can cross-check details. Please verify software and other claims independently. * FOOTNOTE: Frederick Noronha <fred at bytesforall dot org> is a Goa-based freelance journalist, who writes on IT-for-development and GNU/Linux themes regularly, and is cofounder of BytesForAll <www.bytesforall.org>. In the past year, he worked on a print media fellowship to study India's contribution to GNU/Linux, from www.sarai.net (Sarai-New Delhi) Parag Mehta <pm at linuxindia dot org> is webmaster for Linux India, listadmin for Ilug-bom, Country Manager of India for Linux Counters (do get counted as a GNU/Linux user!). Visit his personal site at: http://pmehta.org ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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RHCE
by flameboy varun 16 Sep '02

16 Sep '02

Hi I am a linux newbie and I have been on linux7.2 and 7.3 for a month. I want to give RHCE. Does anyone have any books or can you give me some guidance. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines

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Network help & RHCE guidance
by santosh patil 16 Sep '02

16 Sep '02

hi all !! I am one of the linux fan just like you, i have worked up to some extend on linux 7.1 & 7.3, i am still facing a problem for linux-to-linux network problem. i tried exporting of files from one computer & mounting from another computer, but everytime i got the message access denied or request rejected. pls. help on this matter. I am very much interested in RHCE exam, as i am working, i can't join any institute, can any one help me for the notes & proper guidance. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines

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popularizing linux @ sangli... topics
by Gurpreet Singh 15 Sep '02

15 Sep '02

> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:02:21 -0700 (PDT) > From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] lets start......popularizing linux @ Sangli. > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > > Hello Luggers...;) > > This time around i write to get the ball rolling > for the upcoming gnu-linux workshop being conducted @ > the Rajaram Bapu College of Engineering. > > I proposed to conduct this workshop for a period of > 2 days in the 1st week of Next month, most probably on > a SAT-SUN. > > I would like the following from Volunteers on this > Mailing list..... > > --> The Workshop is being conducted for Engineering > Students.....so considering the efforts to be put in > from an academic perspective i would encourage u > luggers to put forth TOPICs/Ideas that these Students > could make use of. [snip] wud like to suggest a few as i know the audience kinda good --> since most of our programming is done on C n C++ hence what all does linux have instore for that --> A good introduction of the PRC for the juniors who next year might wanna take up some project from it. --> If there is way to teach ppl how to use the web more fruitfully, it wud be welcome i think, 'coz i just see ppl chatting away to glory in the netcafes and wasting there time, at that really hurts me. --> as many development tools that u guys can cover... > > --> Think abt Volunteering nd mail me abt the Topics > that you would be conversant with. Lets at all cost > avoid Sys-Admin kindda stuff. Tho.....there will be a > small module discussin some very ELEMENTARY Sys-Admin > stuff......nd our main focus still remains > Programming/Gnu-Linux based Envs. [snip] plz dont rule out sys admin totally, maybe few guyz can be given that knowledge so that they can maintain the labs well.

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Re: Mail Looping Problem with Delivered-To header
by Sanjeev 15 Sep '02

15 Sep '02

hi all, found solution to my problem, my mails were looping back to the sender saying <first(a)test.cnpl.co.in>: This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6) i had to make some changes in .fetchmailrc file, removed ``:'' (colon) envelope "Delivered-To" and added dropdelivered now its working fine, here is my running .fetchmailrc file set postmaster "postmaster(a)test.cnpl.co.in" set no bouncemail set no spambounce set properties "" set logfile /var/log/fetchmail poll 203.199.107.48 with proto POP3 and options no dns aka test.cnpl.co.in envelope "Delivered-To" user 'catchall(a)test.cnpl.co.in' there with password 'secret' is * here options fetchall smtphost localhost smtpaddress test.cnpl.co.in forcecr dropdelivered -sanjeev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sanjeev" <sanjeev(a)cnpl.co.in> To: "Charles Cazabon" <qmail(a)discworld.dyndns.org> Cc: <qmail(a)list.cr.yp.to> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:26 PM Subject: Re: Mail Looping Problem with Delivered-To header > Monday, Charles Cazabon wrote: > > >Sanjeev <sanjeev(a)cnpl.co.in> wrote: > >[...] > >> # .fetchmailrc > >> poll ISPIPAddress with proto POP3 and options no dns > >> aka myfqdn > > > >ISPIPAddress? myfqdn? Sorry, we can't help you unless you give us the /real/ > >names and IP addresses involved, the unedited output of qmail-showctl, and the > >complete log entries leading up to the bounce. > > > >Charles > > > > > hi, > > hope Charles, gets complete information from my side > > here are my fetchmailrc, qmail log, qmail-showctl (o/p), > in this example its, > mail from, user1(a)test.cnpl.co.in > to, first(a)test.cnpl.co.in > wwoutgoing and incoming mails are send to sanjeev(a)test.cnpl.co.in > > > ############# this is my fetchmailrc file v ############# > set postmaster "postmaster(a)test.cnpl.co.in" > set no bouncemail > set no spambounce > set properties "" > set logfile /var/log/fetchmail > poll 203.199.107.48 with proto POP3 and options no dns > aka test.cnpl.co.in > envelope "Delivered-To:" > user 'catchall(a)test.cnpl.co.in' there with password 'secret' is * here options fetchall > smtphost localhost > smtpaddress test.cnpl.co.in > forcecr > ############# above is my fetchmailrc file ^ ############# > > > ############# this is my qmail log v ##################### > > @400000003d7ecdd10e22d7d4 new msg 87719 > @400000003d7ecdd10e2331ac info msg 87719: bytes 1181 from <user1(a)test.cnpl.co.in> qp 1660 uid 505 > @400000003d7ecdd110e81254 starting delivery 33: msg 87719 to local sanjeev(a)test.cnpl.co.in > @400000003d7ecdd110e8839c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdd110fbf814 starting delivery 34: msg 87719 to local first(a)test.cnpl.co.in > @400000003d7ecdd110fc3a7c status: local 2/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdd51678c114 delivery 33: success: did_1+0+0/ > @400000003d7ecdd5167926a4 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdd516d14d0c delivery 34: failure: This_message_is_looping:_it_already_has_my_Delivered-To_line._(#5.4.6)/ > @400000003d7ecdd516f65584 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdd51ba5a4f4 bounce msg 87719 qp 1665 > @400000003d7ecdd51ba60e6c end msg 87719 > @400000003d7ecdd51bbaea44 new msg 87693 > @400000003d7ecdd51bc0d5e4 info msg 87693: bytes 1863 from <> qp 1665 uid 507 > @400000003d7ecdd51d6bf1bc starting delivery 35: msg 87693 to local sanjeev(a)test.cnpl.co.in > @400000003d7ecdd51d6eeb74 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdd51d88ef9c starting delivery 36: msg 87693 to local user1(a)test.cnpl.co.in > @400000003d7ecdd51d8be184 status: local 2/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdde0371bc9c delivery 35: success: did_1+0+0/ > @400000003d7ecdde0372222c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdde078550dc delivery 36: success: did_1+0+0/ > @400000003d7ecdde0785b284 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdde0785c60c end msg 87693 > ############# above is my qmail log ^ ##################### > > > ############# this is my output of qmail-showctl v ##################### > qmail home directory: /var/qmail. > user-ext delimiter: -. > paternalism (in decimal): 2. > silent concurrency limit: 500. > subdirectory split: 23. > user ids: 501, 502, 503, 0, 504, 505, 506, 507. > group ids: 501, 502. > me: My name is test.cnpl.co.in > ldapserver: My ldap server is localhost > > > badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed. > > bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON. > > bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is test.cnpl.co.in. > > concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10. > > concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20. > > databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes. > > defaultdomain: Default domain name is cnpl.co.in. > > defaulthost: (Default.) Default host name is test.cnpl.co.in. > > doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: test.cnpl.co.in. > > doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster. > > envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is test.cnpl.co.in. > > helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is test.cnpl.co.in. > > idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is test.cnpl.co.in. > > localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes test.cnpl.co.in. > > locals: > Messages for test.cnpl.co.in are delivered locally. > Messages for san.test.cnpl.co.in are delivered locally. > > me: My name is test.cnpl.co.in. > > percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed. > > plusdomain: Plus domain name is . > > qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers. > > queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds. > > rcpthosts: > SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at test.cnpl.co.in. > > morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect. > > morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect. > > smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 test.cnpl.co.in. > > smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes. > > timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds. > > timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds. > > timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds. > > virtualdomains: > > now the qmail-ldap specific files > > ldapserver: My LDAP Server is localhost. > > ldapbasedn: LDAP basedn: o=localhost,c=com. > > ldaplogin: LDAP login: cn=qmail,o=localhost,c=com. > > ldappassword: LDAP password: qmailsecret. > > ldapuid: Default UID is: 600. > > ldapgid: Default GID is: 600. > > ldapmessagestore: Prefix for non absolute paths: . > > ldapdefaultdotmode: (Default.) Default dot mode for ldap users: not defined. > > ldapdefaultquota: Default quota for ldap users: 2000000S, 1001C. > > dirmaker: Location of program to create homedirs: /var/qmail/bin/custom_dirmaker. > > ldaplocaldelivery: local passwd lookup is 0 (1 = on, 0 = off). > > ldaprebind: ldap rebinding is 1 (1 = on, 0 = off). > > ldapcluster: (Default.) clustering is 0 (1 = on, 0 = off). > > ldapclusterhosts: (Default.) No alternate MailHosts for clustering listed. > > quotawarning: > ############# above is my output of qmail-showctl ^ ##################### > You are about to be over your quota. Clean your mailbox > > custombouncetext: > You have experienced some sort of problem delivering mail to us. > Please contact us at for more information. > > maxrcptcount: (Default.) 0 RCPT TOs are accepted before sending 553 (0 = off). > > tarpitcount: (Default.) 0 RCPT TOs are accepted before tarpitting (0 = off). > > tarpitdelay: (Default.) 5 seconds of delay to introduce after each subsequent RCPT TO. > > badrcptto: > > relaymailfrom: > Envelope senders allowed to relay: @test.cnpl.co.in. > > rbllist: (Default.) No RBL listed. > > rbltags: (Default.) No RBL listed. > > holdremote: I have no idea what this file does. > concurrencyincoming: I have no idea what this file does. > defaultdelivery: I have no idea what this file does. > relaymailfrom: I have no idea what this file does. > > > regards > sanjeev > >

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On how to mount an audio CD onto ext2fs
by Sankha Subhra Som 14 Sep '02

14 Sep '02

Thanx for the lead Satya. Herez a stepwise manner to do that Step 1 -------- Download any of the tar balls from http://www.elis.rug.ac.be/~ronsse/cdfs/download/ Step2 ------ There is a some bug in the header file cdfs.h To rectify it comment out parts of lines in the following manner #define BANNER FSNAME //##"\t"##VERSION #define EMPTYMESSAGE BANNER //##"\n\tNo CD mounted\n\n" If u wish u could try something more elegant :) Step 3 -------- Run make Step 4 -------- Load the loadable kernel module cdfs.o using /sbin/insmod cdfs.o Step 5 -------- Mount the aud cd using mount -t cdfs -o ro /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdfs Step 6 -------- To see track listings cat /proc/cdfs Enjoy!! -- SANKHA SUBHRA SOM ATC - BIOINFORMATICS TCS KLK BUILDING. HYDERABAD-1 Ph:(040)6787980-1024 ******************************************************** An anonymous digitoid ******************************************************** Do not try to live forever. You will not succeed.

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FreeBSD CD's required ....
by Rupesh 14 Sep '02

14 Sep '02

Hi, I am looking for FreeBSD 4.6 CD's. If anyone has the same please let me know, please email me offlist. --Rupesh

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[Announce] HTML.Template.java version 0.1.1 has been released
by Philip S Tellis 14 Sep '02

14 Sep '02

For those who don't know, HTML.Template.java is a java implementation of HTML::Template. It is almost completely compatible with HTML::Template.pm The only thing not supported are the caching directives and filters (which are on the way). By popular demand, this release has the global_vars option. die_on_bad_params has also been included. The tutorial on the website has also been updated to reflect some of the newer constructs. Homepage: http://html-tmpl-java.sourceforge.net/ Changes in current release: ver 0.1.1 - Fixed bug in tmpl_var which failed if parameter was not a String - TMPL_VAR and TMPL_LOOP now give a reasonable error message if parameter is of the wrong type - Var.typeOfElement now actually returns the type and not the name - support for die_on_bad_params - support for global_vars - New __COUNTER__ TMPL_LOOP context variable - Can now set default values for TMPL_VARs through the template: <TMPL_VAR name="myvar" default="default_value"> Philip -- fenderberg, n.: The large glacial deposits that form on the insides of car fenders during snowstorms. -- "Sniglets", Rich Hall & Friends

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Multiple 'root's
by Nikhil Joshi 13 Sep '02

13 Sep '02

Hi! Is it possible to give root previlages to some account ? It shud have all the powers of root. i know its kinda dumb idea but still i wud like to know if its possible. let's consider i want to give root previlages to foo I tried this: $cp /bin/bash /home/foo #chown root /home/foo/bash #chmod +s /home/foo/bash but when i do ./bash in directory nd type whoami it gives me foo nd not root ! what shud i do? Please enlighten.

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how to mount an audio cd to the linux fs
by Sankha Subhra Som 13 Sep '02

13 Sep '02

hi how do i mount an audio CD on to the linux file system. Sankha -- SANKHA SUBHRA SOM ATC - BIOINFORMATICS TCS KLK BUILDING. HYDERABAD-1 Ph:(040)6787980-1024 ******************************************************** An anonymous digitoid ******************************************************** Do not try to live forever. You will not succeed.

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[RPM error] memory alloc ?
by Sachin 13 Sep '02

13 Sep '02

hi there i have downloaded rpm packages of gnome 2 and i started upgrading them as "rpm -Uvh *" but following error occured! What is memory alloc error in rpm? pls help me sachin ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~Output=~=~=~=~=~=~= [root@voodoo gnome-2]# rpm -Uvh * dbiSetConfig: unrecognized db option: "db3" ignored dbiSetConfig: unrecognized db option: "db3" ignored read failed: Is a directory (21) error: files cannot be installed dbiSetConfig: unrecognized db option: "db3" ignored memory alloc (2615974892 bytes) returned NULL. [root@voodoo gnome-2]# ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= -- ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= sachin(a)mediaibc.com MediaIBC ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= Creativity in living is not without its attendant difficulties, for peculiarity breeds contempt. And the unfortunate thing about being ahead of your time when people finally realize you were right, they'll say it was obvious all along. -- Alan Ashley-Pitt ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] popularizing linux in my college
by Suhit Kelkar 12 Sep '02

12 Sep '02

Dear Mr Singh, A linux seminar is the need of the hour for newbies like me. It isn't enough for me to drive the linux lovemobile; I now want to supercharge it! Will your seminar be useful to someone, who, say, does not know how to write shell scripts? Or is it totally technical? Suhit Kelkar -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Ping Problem
by Nikhil Kale 12 Sep '02

12 Sep '02

Hello All, I am quite new to Linux system. I installed Red Hat 7.1 on my home computer, which is a stand alone pc, and has no network connected. During installation my mouse was malfunctioning and I may have missed some N/w configuration screens. The problem is whenever i try pinging localhost ping 127.0.0.1 it gives this error: connect: no network found. I tried changing the NETWORKING field to "no" in the file /etc/sysconfig/network Also I checked /etc/hosts for localhost and its there. I discovered this error when I installed webmin and tried to browse to http://127.0.0.1:10000 to run it. Please help, Nikhil ===== Nikhil Kale Software Engineer Mahindra British Telecom Ltd. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com

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[OT] [ACM] Debate/Discussion on software patents
by Philip S Tellis 12 Sep '02

12 Sep '02

6:30pm, Fri Sep 13, 2002 at NCST Juhu There will be a discussion cum debate as part of the ACM meeting this Friday at NCST Juhu. The discussion is titled: "Patents in Software: Good or Bad?" and is to be held on Fri Sep 13, 2002 (6:30 pm) at NCST, Gulmohar Cross Road 9, Juhu, Mumbai 49 (Landmark: Copper Chimney hotel). (Road map: http://www.ncst.ernet.in/contactus/images/ncstj_roadmap.gif) Recommended reading: Basics of patents - http://inventors.about.com/cs/patents/ IPR intro - http://www.acm.org/crossroads/xrds8-1/ipcourse.html http://www.uspto.gov/ Sites which speak either 'for' or 'against' patents (or sometimes from both perspectives):- http://swpat.ffii.org/ http://swpat.ffii.org/analysis/index.en.html http://www.patent.gov.uk/about/consultations/conclusions.htm http://www.europeshareware.free.fr/pages/pr_swpat2_e.html http://www.ipcreators.org/Heckel/ACM_Paper/acaddeb.htm http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2107497,00.html http://lpf.ai.mit.edu/Patents/quotes.html http://www.eff.org/ -- Art is anything you can get away with. -- Marshall McLuhan.

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grub single user mode
by Hiten Desai 12 Sep '02

12 Sep '02

Hi! I would like like to start single user mode I am having rh 7.2 with grub. wht would be the easiest way to start single user mode . Hiten. __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] burning RH cds
by Kalpesh Vyas 12 Sep '02

12 Sep '02

Gurpreet, You must have copied the entire CD on the HDD first & then burn the copied contents on a blank CD...Bootable CD's cant be copied that way...Try DISKCOPY'ing the CD & it will work... Kalpesh M. Vyas > Gurpreet Singh wrote: > > hi luggerz > some of u might laugh on this but.... > have a prob, > i tried writing a RH installation cd on a blank cd, > but the new cd is'nt bootable.... > now how do i make those CDs bootable?? > to write CDs i was using windows and the HP application 'coz the > writer is not mine and the system that has the writer is not mine, so > have to bare up. > plz comment > Gurpreet > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > !----- PostMaster AvAc Certified Virus Free Mail -----! > QuickHeal Engine Ver :6.06 Updated Until 04-Sep-2002 Please visit www.qlc.co.in,www.postmaster.co.in -------------------------------------------------------------- QuantumLink Communications Pvt Ltd, Bombay, India !----- PostMaster AvAc Certified Virus Free Mail -----! QuickHeal Engine Ver :6.06 Updated Until 04-Sep-2002 -------------------------------------------------------------- QuantumLink Communications Pvt Ltd, Bombay, India

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Kerneld in Kernel-2.4.10/19
by Sachin Naik 10 Sep '02

10 Sep '02

Hi, I am trying to compile kernel version 2.4.19-rc1 on my linux box. Presently I have REDHAT7.2 ,with Kernel2.4.7-10 . I want to have kerneld compiled in the kernel(CONFIG_KERNELD).But when I do "make config" The option for Kerneld does not come up at all. Was the option removed ?? Or am I doing something wrong ?? I checked my present installation , even that does not have /sbin/kerneld. Is kerneld removed form linux kernel 2.4 ?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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c++ library reference ???
by Abhijeet Mhatre 10 Sep '02

10 Sep '02

Hi I fail to understand how the GNU software foundation fails to provide a free downloadable library reference for C++. If there is any, please please let me know. How would a C++ programmer hope to understand the C++ library without it. regards Abhijeet

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Mirror Debian packages not iso.
by Warren Brian Noronha 10 Sep '02

10 Sep '02

dear users, could someone mirror the debian dist pool instead of mirroring the iso's since, any one can download a 30 mb cd image and then install the packages he needs instead of downloading the whole cd. there is one mirror in banglore but its seems go down frequently. A good place to start would be. www.debian.org/CD -- Wolfgang ___________________________________ warren(a)freedomink.org /___/ MSN: warrennoronha(a)msn.com wbn.dnsq.org /___/ YM!: warrennoronha ____________________/___/ Jab: wbn(a)jabber.org

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popularizing linux in my college
by Gurpreet Singh 10 Sep '02

10 Sep '02

hello luggerz remember i told u abt the gnu/linux seminar in my college.. we've discussed abt the dates with the college authorities and suggest 1st week of october preferably 4th and 5th oct... comments plz.. the ppl who are gonna attend will be from the comp deptt so we want it to be a bit more technical this time, u know stuff like compiling c and java, and other programming tools and some netwroking and maybe samba n all too. If all dont grasp that much maybe some of us will.. the travel and stay of the ppl who visit us wud be totally our responsibility. the place is in distt sangli abt 8 hrs on bus from mumbai. the ppl who are interested plz reply to me off the list.. thankyou Gurpreet

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Motorola SM56 modem driver for RedHat 7.3
by mukesh kitawat 10 Sep '02

10 Sep '02

I have recently upgraded my linux system from 7.1 to 7.3 However my modem is not working. I have an internal modem of Motorola sm56. Tried to install the rpm driver sm56_5.1_i386. While connecting it gives the message " Cannot open /dev/modem " Plz help to locate the problem.

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make files...what r they??
by Gurpreet Singh 10 Sep '02

10 Sep '02

hello i was instaling this command line mp3 player called mpeg123 and during the installation came across these "make" files... can somebody tell me what these are and how do they function?? plz suggest and reading material for learnign abt them Gurpreet

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Test your understanding of GPL and LGPL
by Tahir Hashmi 07 Sep '02

07 Sep '02

Hi all! There's a nice quiz at http://www.gnu.org/cgi-bin/license-quiz.cgi that you can use to test your understanding of GPL and LGPL. Don't worry if you don't get everything right. The quiz is accompanied by correct answers and explanations :-) -- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed

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Interesting (off) Topic
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 07 Sep '02

07 Sep '02

Quasi wrote (in an earlier mail- Conspiracy theories make me sick. recieving a legal notice from some copyright holder whom u never heard of will produce the same result) > The moral/ethical aspects of the patenting system is an open and completely different discussion. Yeah we live in an imperfet world. > There are tremendous advantages of open source. But on what basis do you > say that closed software are far more buggy ??? experience: 19 yrs using closed source tools and 3 yrs using linux tools for development. Except for one locally developed cad tool (1988 vintage which sreams under dos, and just manages to work under windows) every opensource tool that we use has proved to be superior. > Why makes such comments that have weak basis and which put the open source movement in bad > light? Because this plainly makes out that the source may be open but the > mind is closed Puts open source in bad light why? I dont need to pander up to someone and win brownie points It is only in this forum that I critiise severly closed source and M$ since the members are quite open minded. further, responses both for and against provide a framework for presenting free v/s closed software in the correct perespective. As for my closed mind the above 19 yrs of battle and several thaousand reinstallaions and crash recoveries of windows has taken it's toll I suppose (not to mention the fact that development time and costs has been cut, performance of systems increased manifold, and great innovation is now possible using free software). Also the very encouraging reports (from personal friends using them) of crashes of XP and 2000 is helping the process along. > FYI, there have been IBM mainframes with "closed" OS as well as the > software which have been running robustly for more than a decade in many a > bank. Know at least two banks where this is not the case. Also know several who have had to recreate the software when the original supplier folded up. >>Yeah try explaining that to Billy baba. >I would love to, could you arrange a meeting please? I also hope he gives >me some money... No chance here, he isn't in my sphere of influence. However U could send him an email. just like u do to the developers of free software. Who knows he might even send u some of his gems of wisdom with a cheque. rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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Re:Interesting topic
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 07 Sep '02

07 Sep '02

Sameer Shinde wrote > It doesn't meen that I hate windows. If it has some goodies, it has it. > Accept it. There is no harm in that. Nobody is going to Kill you for that. > After being on the list for quite a long time I found that, some ppl on the > list are not ready to accept it. You reeeally need to do some serious reading. These so called features are individual tastes. If you think that these are features read Philip's mail. Features are those which comply with standards and work universally. In this respect both Libre and closed software have limitations. However Libre software allows you the means to correct any deficiences, closed software actively prevents you from dicovering and publishing such deficiencies. > Some ppl say that Linux is free & so not is windows. But can they tell me > what wod they have done if linux & all of its goodies were also not free? > They say windows is buggy, even I say. But then everything have some > bugs ( even human beings ) Nothing is perfect. We are developer atleast > we should understand this. are you confusing free and libre?. Libre software is buggy but allows U to correct it. Closed software is far more buggy BUT actively prevents u from discovering, correcting or publishing thes bugs. > I/we do some sort of programming & need to test it on different OS > But for a general user who is only interested in playing games, surfing > web & doing some work in word excel. Why should he swithch to > any other OS if he is getting MS for free ( pirated )? There is no reason > for that. Please carefully read the lug mail archives there is lot's of stuff there which will explain in detail the real issues at hand. Do not fool ur self into beliveing that this is abt a button here and a double click there. > Note : This doesn't mean that I'm in favour of Win & opposing Linux > I just want to clear a thing that If something is good, let it be good, > do not blame it. Rather try to make your system to be good. Yeah try explaining that to Billy baba. rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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mp3blaster
by upendra gandhi 07 Sep '02

07 Sep '02

hi all can anybody tell me if i want to use mp3blaster on RH 7.0 which curses or ncurses i have to have coz at ./configure its asking for ncurses and i have ncurses -5 and ncurses4- intalled wht do i do?????????????? ===== upendra gandhi CIW ASSOCIATE (Server Admin.Internetworking Professional, Security Professional) http://home.graffiti.net/upengan78 upengan78(a)hotmail.com pengan78(a)linuxfreemail.com upengan78(a)epatra.com upengan78(a)graffiti.net upengan1978(a)netscape.net "THE LIVING GOD IS WITHIN YOU" Dearest 'swami vivekananda' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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[OT] Interesting Conversation
by Nikhil Joshi 07 Sep '02

07 Sep '02

Hi! I had a conversation with my B.E. comp friend about Linux. Basically he is doing a project in VC++ fr:So you are doing project in Linux right ? me:yeah. C programming in Linux fr:Oh,does Linux have VB,VC ? me:No fr:hmm... so will my VC programs run on Linux? me:No fr:Then what's the use of Linux? I was stupified. (OK Windows programs can b emulated but still they cannot 'run' right ?) This is from a guy who had Operating Systems,System Programming,Microprocessor in his syllabus I guess the whole syllabus is 'DOS' oriented. ppl still cannot digest the fact that there are many other compilers other than the 'standard' Turbo C++ 3.0 Also I've observed that this is the general awareness/attitude of Comp. ppl abt Linux. I can only imagine what it must be like for Arts/Commerce/ ppl to understand what is Linux -- Nikhil

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Re:Interesting topic
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

Quasi wrote >>At 02:52 morn 9/5/02 -0600, JTD wrote: >>the less informed said > as I was about the only one talking about X, and as I am one of the less > informed anyway, let me take this up... '-) No offence meant mate. (my apologies if it did offend) >1) X gui is bloated > More precisely, that X GUI suxx ;) - i.e. for the uninitiated, it is not > (very) sophisticated. U mean it's too sophisticated for the uninitiated. >For those who dont read complete threads, I read the complete thread ;-)). > Note I was talking about the GUI only. Not the underlying architecture. And further, > considering only the *GUI* aspect - that is precisely my gripe. > I have used X servers available from 96 onwards (svga, accelerated Mach64, XFree86), QNX, BeOS & M$ Windows > 3.11/95/98/98SE/NT/2000/XP. The fastest I have used was X+fvwm2 (used to > run on a 386 without a FPU and with only 8Mb of memory), and it was way, >*WAY* better than win 3.11/95. The flashiest/eyecandy were >X+gnome+enlightenment and XP. The smoothest/fast/crisp/stable I have used >is the win98 SE GUI. all themore reason for not cribbing. >3) users want something that works >Seems that the issues were mixed and arguments against linux were not in >context. >(it would have been better if you had quoted the contexts.) Heck quote all those mails... but read on >2)total number of non i386 processors sold is higher by several orders of >magnitude. > eh? if you are meaning Intel 80386 processors, you are probably right. yes that is exactly what i meant. > But if you meant processors of the x86 family, I must say you are >completely off the mark here. The *powerful & complex* machines you talk >about have pitiful tiny numbers compared to the cheap & generic x86 >processors. Also as of today, IMHO, if you consider pure computing power, >the best of the x86 family must be the most powerful. confusing ... comparing x86 to x86 > They run customised software which makes it possible for crap like > windows to exist in the first place. (Power, railways, mining, > communications, manufacturing, medical tecnology). >3) If u think that windows works ur idea of "works" needs corrective >education (a stint at gulag microsoft might be in order). If u are an >engineer please dont mention the two in the same breath. >Windows does work. If your idea of "works" is a huge complex system >running huge complex custom software, you should buy a PC, maybe. > Unix (traditional or Linux) has almost no competition in the *huge complex* > world. But isnt that completely besides the point? the systems are indeed hughe and complex but individual processors are far less complex than a i386 infact they are 8 and 16 bit devices. and most run tcp and x25 stacks for communication. The point being that other than a office desktop (where it is used because of accident rather than any great design) windows is good for nothing. >But the above completely misses out on something very basic "what is good >for u and ur business" U may be a business end user or a professional in >the computer industry, the basics are the same. > [this is getting off topic, nothing to do with X - but maybe "Interesting > topic" includes all :) ] No no it's abt making a living v/s you toiling to make billy babas living. > Consider this, (if you can) : My father (a real person) Would never doubt that ;-). > is an cartography expert. He used to makes maps by hand in his younger days. excuse my ignorance but are you refering to GIS systems (is cartography a subset or superset of GIS) > Today he makes them with the aid of a computer. They have spent ~7 lakhs on a software One of my aquantainces dowloaded an open source GIS system and is developing numerous customised applications for clients. his raw material costs 8 hrs download ( Rs.8 for cable internet) Sprints on linux R.H 7.2. > called MapInfo. Runs on windows {grin}. He has minimal computer > background. I had been trying to con him into installing GNU/Linux with > X. But he asked me : - > 1. Will my software run on Linux or is there a equivalent s/w on Linux? See what happens if u use windows > 2. Will my HPDeskjet blah blah printer run on Linux (print manager, et.al)? >3. Will I be able to use Linux with my current knowledge, as I have minimal >time? > 4. Will *I* be able to manage Linux as I am the most computer savvy person clip case of cart before the horse. > 5. We have about only 10 PC's, so we cannot afford an engeneer/sysadmin. Sys admin? what for. >6. When we have spent 7 lakhs on MapInfo we did not mind spending 5-10Kz on >Windowz. is that all. No mail server, no firewall, no word processing, no spread sheet? >-- and most importantly -- > 7. It works fine on windows, what advantage will I get on Linux ? Using windows is the bait. The trap lies ahead (but that is a much hacked story) > I think we were trying to discuss ways to promote Linux? Dispelling scepticism in potential software and technical personnel is what i thought. But then things got very interesting ;-). But promote where ? Most of the developer open community already uses Linux. Most of the snip > Most of the non-software-developer community wants (intelligent) black boxes which help > them be more efficient in what they do best. And if you[1] want GNU/Linux > there, then imposing ones' idea of cool isnt about "choice" - the touted > mantra. > [1] "you", because I have no such particularly burning desire. I love it > and I would not mind if it remained the exclusive domain of > geeks/nerds/developers/students/free-souls. The whispered truth of the > matter is that if *all* the users are your own community then where will > your chapati+bhaji come from? I am indeed making chappati + bhaji with beer thrown in from developing customised applications which are unthinkable in any context other than free software. >So IMHO stop thinking about windows. It is irrelevant in 99% of >microprocessors. > So IMHO, try to get out of the well. There are many wells all around. We > should keep our mind open enough to swim in any of them whenever we choose > & need. Closing an option or not seeing the enemy's sword is not very wise ... Yeah and swim in the oceans of the brave new GNU world. As for converting desktop pc it will happen on it's own with a little change in X some in Y and some more in Z. The only limitation of Linux is brand equity. The day somone decides to spend mega bucks on promoting linux the door would shut on widows. rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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Re: mp3blaster
by upendra gandhi 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

i am using tar file men does 7.2 RH is the min reqt upendra gandhi CIW ASSOCIATE (Server Admin.Internetworking Professional, Security Professional) http://home.graffiti.net/upengan78 upengan78(a)hotmail.com pengan78(a)linuxfreemail.com upengan78(a)epatra.com upengan78(a)graffiti.net upengan1978(a)netscape.net "THE LIVING GOD IS WITHIN YOU" Dearest 'swami vivekananda' --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] mp3blaster
by Amol Hatwar 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

On Fri, 06 Sep 2002 upendra gandhi wrote : >hi all >can anybody tell me if i want to use mp3blaster on RH >7.0 >which curses or ncurses i have to have coz at >./configure its asking for ncurses and i have ncurses >-5 and ncurses4- intalled >wht do i do?????????????? *snip* For doing that you need development packages installed. If you have compiled and installed the see to it if they are available in the include and library paths while compling mp3 blaster. Inclide thos paths in /etc/ld.so.conf (its a simple text file) and run ldconfig. This generally does the trick. A simpler way would be to use binary packages. Regards, Amol.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Interesting topic
by Amol Hatwar 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

On Thu, 05 Sep 2002 Q u a s i wrote : >At 02:52 morn 9/5/02 -0600, JTD wrote: >>the less informed said > >as I was about the only one talking about X, and as I am one of >the less informed anyway, let me take this up... '-) > >>1) X gui is bloated > >More precisely, that X GUI suxx ;) - i.e. for the uninitiated, it >is not (very) sophisticated. For those who dont read complete >threads, Note I was talking about the GUI only. Not the >underlying architecture. And further, considering only the *GUI* >aspect - I have used X servers available from 96 onwards (svga, >accelerated Mach64, XFree86), QNX, BeOS & M$ Windows >3.11/95/98/98SE/NT/2000/XP. The fastest I have used was X+fvwm2 >(used to run on a 386 without a FPU and with only 8Mb of memory), >and it was way, *WAY* better than win 3.11/95. The >flashiest/eyecandy were X+gnome+enlightenment and XP. The >smoothest/fast/crisp/stable I have used is the win98 SE GUI. *snip* The moral of the story ... Different people have different choices. As Indians with limited resources, GNU and free (as in freedom, not give aways)is the way to go. Besides the point, one can't really take the digestive system out of an animal and say that it suffers from excess wind. X _is_ slow, running it standalone wasn't at all envisaged when X was developed. However if one wants a GUI on a standalone there's no choice, but to use it. People who use it on a N/W think otherwise. regards, Amol.

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inet problem
by Hiten Desai 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

Hi! I am having redhat 6.2 (2.2.19) I have network adapter of 1) intel epro100 2) intel pro 1000 I have to reload the inet service 3 to 4 times a day I have tried changing the lan card. I receive this error on console e1000: Receive Errors Reported by Hardware e1000: Receive Errors Reported by Hardware e1000: Receive Errors Reported by Hardware e1000: Receive Errors Reported by Hardware e1000: Receive Errors Reported by Hardware another constant error which I receive is kernel: cdrom: open failed. modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-10 modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-10 modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-10 modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-10 I have tried changing my lan card (from eepro100 to pro1000) Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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DeveloperIQ: GentooLinux 1.2, PhatLinux, compile your kernel...
by Frederick Noronha 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

----------------------------------------------------------------- DeveloperIQ "India's first complete software mag" Sept 2002 issue: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Highlights from the issue, compiled by FN: * Free as in freedom... focus on some alternate OSs - SpinOS (an OS that blurs the distinction between kernels and applications). - ReactOS: an Open Source effort to develop a quality operating system that is compatible with Windows NT applications and drivers. - BeOS: contains advantages from several OSs without ancient oddments of older versions. - Inferno: middleware, networking operating system, and a development environment for embedded systems. - Gentoo Linux 1.2: High-performance ports-based Linux metadistribution. Gentoo Linux has an advanced package management system called Portage. - Phat Linux 3.3: You can install Phat Linux on your computer without repartitioning your hard disk. - S.Ha.R.K: a dynamic configurable kernel architecture designed for supporting hard, soft and non real-time applications with interchangeable scheduling algorithms. * In the CD: - SpinOS - ReactOS - BeOS - Phat Linux 3.3 - Gentoo Linux 1.2 - Vita Nuova Inferno - netowrk operating system - SHaRK - XFree86 (freely redistributable, open-source implementation fo the XWindows Systems) * Post your problem: Questions on - How to figure out if your Ethernet card is recognised? (itconfig netstat) - How to access files on an MS-DOS partition or floppy - What does it mean if your meachine boots, says LI and then freezes? - What if you forget your Linux password? - How to install GNU software in Linux? - How to configure your network in Mandrake? - How to create a 'multiboot' LILO in Linux? * Compile your own Linux kernel. Continuing the journey with Philip de Groot. Concluding of a two-part series. * Look out for some database abstraction on PHP and learn about the Perl DBI (use Perl to access many different types of databases through a single API that works independently of the actual database being used). * Ad for Borland Delphi7 Studio. "Provides the migration path to .NET that developers have been waiting for. ... you're in control of a complete e-business development studio -- with the freedom to easily take your solutions cross-platform to Linux. Visit www.borland.com or email indiacustserv(a)borland.com mentioning Delphi7 in the subjectline. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Contact DeveloperIQ (www.developeriq.com). Price Rs 100 in India. Two CDs included. Bouquets and brickbats to ramdas(a)developeriq.com Send your letters in under 350 words, mention address/job designation ----------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick Noronha Freelance Journalist http://linuxinindia.pitas.com

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Opening up GNU/Linux in new areas ...
by Frederick Noronha 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

In the thick of the (delayed) monsoons means one has to put up with an additional round of computer-related woes. So, this evening, I found myself at ASIC in Panjim, trying to sort out a bad sectored-hard disk. One of the staff there raised the issue. "Why don't you teach us Linux?" he asked. Soon, two or three others were asking. In no time, they had put together a list of seven e-mail addresses, all of whom were hardware techies wanting to "learn Linux". Maybe the question was not put to the best person. (I'm no GNU/Linux guru.) But it set one thinking.... What can be done to promote GNU/Linux among new users? And also among Windows techies and hardware people, who could then spread it further? Two suggestions: * Tips on GNU/Linux targetted at newbies, to help them take up a kind of self-learning process... Such tips could be of the how-to-get-started type. * Holding a few demos of various installs. Andrew asked: "Please let us know when you'll will demo an install." He underlined the need for handholding for new users to get past the partitioning stage. Any volunteers to take these possibilities forward? Pls contact me off-list. Thanks, FN

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Query on Gphoto...
by Frederick Noronha 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

Any idea why my digital camera downloads superbly with Gphoto on Mandrake 8.0, but doesn't with Gphoto on RedHat 6.2? Tks, FN

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Intel pro1000
by Hiten Desai 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

I have installed Intel Pro 1000 (10/100/1000 Mbit) on Redhat 6.2 (2.2.19) but I am receiving this error on console e1000: Receive Errors Reported by Hardware e1000: Receive Errors Reported by Hardware e1000: Receive Errors Reported by Hardware e1000: Receive Errors Reported by Hardware e1000: Receive Errors Reported by Hardware __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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Interesting topic
by jtdsouza＠softhome.net 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

the less informed said 1) X gui is bloated 2) most of the world uses windoze 3) users want something that works 4) u cant make money on free software Seems that the issues were mixed and arguments against linux were not in context. 1) X was designed with networking in mind. It is ideal for a thin client environment and will outperform the windows gui (which in fact cannot operate as a thin client) by miles not to mention issues of maintainence and upgradation. 2) HE HE. total number of non i386 processors sold is higher by several orders of magnitude. They run customised software which makes it possible for crap like windows to exist in the first place. (Power, railways, mining, communications, manufacturing, medical tecnology). 3) If u think that windows works ur idea of "works" needs corrective education (a stint at gulag microsoft might be in order). If u are an engineer please dont mention the two in the same breath. 4) Refer 2. One single contract in one of the above fields will provide you enough work to last a life time. If u so much as mention windows in these circiles u would be thrown out pronto (presuming you managed to worm ur way in in the first place). But the above completely misses out on something very basic "what is good for u and ur business" U may be a business end user or a professional in the computer industry, the basics are the same. Lets talk only of a business providing software to another business. Basic principles are 1) reduce the cost of your input raw material (best if free) 2) deploy your manpower effeciently (debug your code instead of M$ code) 3) Focus 4) Reuse (possible in the above industries only if complete processor cross compatability exists) So what would you do fatten microsoft and waste time finding uncorrectable bugs or use GNU/Linux With the advent of the latest Open office suite, the last hurdle has vanished (a very small number of issues remain with some complex M$ documents). So IMHO stop thinking about windows. It is irrelevant in 99% of microprocessors. rgds jtdsouza(a)softhome.net

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[ANNOUNCE] HyParSuite - Hypertext Parsing Suite
by Ravindra Jaju 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

Hi all. This is to announce a pre-alpha release of my Hypertext Parsing Suite. It can "clean" HTML ( or other markup languages, depending on the user-defined rule table ) to get an output which matches the rules in your table, create a DOM tree for use in various applications and a lot of other stuff. It comes in the class of Tidy ( tidy.sourceforge.net ), but has very different goals. One is - it does NOT try to create standards-compliant HTML, but cleans and parses to create something useful for applications ( like, in information retrieval and extraction etc. ). It reads its rules from a user-supplied table, and the default one resembles HTML very closely. The suite includes a sample.cpp file to show how to use the library. And the library can be linked to your applications too. Examples could be extracting particular parts from your markup language files like links, or tables. It is written in C++, and does not *yet* use the auto* tools. Simple make commands to build and install ( in your $HOME ) We have run this code on huge amounts of data ( > 1 GB ), and found it to be stable and without memory leaks. There are other related applications written around this code which I'm planning to release soon. Please download and test. URL: http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~jaju/hypar/ Online docs created from doxygen can be found on the site. -- jaju PS: Probably not the right time to release, as I'll be away from Saturday for a week. But please let me know of any issues/ideas/suggestions, and I'll look into them after I come back.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] nikhil : re to re
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

>planet must use it. There always should be some space for >improvement ;) true... but i refuse to let loose my purse strings for patchy software from MS. -Amol.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Q u a s i 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

At 06:28 even 9/4/02 +0530, Philip wrote: >On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Q u a s i wrote: > > I dont need some site telling me which is better - I *use* IE6 and Mozilla > > 1.0 - Mozilla is good. Especially Galeon is very fast under Gnome (as it > >I think what he meant was that IE cannot display all the features of style >sheets because it doesn't support them. IE is not a standards compliant >browser, although IE6 is probably the closest that they've come. I had got that. But my *whole* argument was from the user point of view. Not the technical. Mozilla may be superior to IE in design, architecture etc. - but IE is faster/cleaner to use. Have Netscape/Mozilla *always* been 100% compliant? My webpage, which I handcoded in HTML looked bad in Netscape 4.?, It looked better in Mozilla, but much better in IE5+. I have used png, jpeg, CSS2.0 & plain HTML only. On my X, Mozilla takes 10-15 seconds to start. Galeon takes 4-7. On my windows Netscape 6 took ~20 sec to load. Mozilla 6-10. IE takes ~1 sec. It is not that I need IE, when in Linux I prefer Links. But of course it is pointless. quasi p.s. I think with this mail I will retire from this thread. Throwing about our-own chests in front of each other is not the Linux way, at least not for me. I have peace, in that I have converted a sufficiently large number of people to the GNU/Linux way.

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Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Parul Mathur 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

>Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 19:29:36 +0530 > From: Ravindra Jaju <jaju(a)it.iitb.ac.in> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > >On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 07:09:02PM +0530, Philip S Tellis >wrote: > > Hmm, I use HTML generated by a CGI script reading from a text >file. It > > takes me 20 minutes to make my text file. > >I use a simple Perl script. >You can supply a stylesheet from the command line, or else you >get >plain 'white' pages ... > >I can make the Perl script available if anyone wishes .... > >-- >jaju > Dear Philip, I was very impressed when I first saw you using those HTML files as "slides". When I left NCST and joined my present company, I made a stylesheet that mimicked the company standard for PPTs. To make individual "slides" I would manually and laboriously make several copies of the first "slide" and then edit it... you get the picture. So I would be really grateful if you could make your CGI script available for download on your website. Could you also make a non-CGI version available for use on the command line? Thanks. Dear Jaju, I was equally impressed by your tutorial at http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~jaju/tutorials/net/tcpip/node1.html I was using IE6 at that time (800 x 600 resolution) and for some reason the text in the "slide" on the right seemed too big; I tried to change the text size to "Smallest" but there was no effect. Something wrong with IE? In any case, your Perl script would be very welcome too. Instructions for use would also be very helpful. Thanks. Parul

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Internal Modem
by Sameer Shinde 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

Dear Lugers, We ( myself & Kedar ) having some problems while installing the Motorola sm56 internal modem on RHL7.2 Can somebody help us. The readme file along with the rpm which we have says that the rpm file can be used on RHL7.1 along with the kernel 2.4.x But we have RHL7.2 along with kernel 2.4.x Can anybody tell us how can we use the rpm on 7.2 If not where can we get the drivers for 7.2 & / or 7.3 Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) P.S. : Sometime back I read ( I think on mailing list only ) that Motorola stops developing the drivers for sm56 on linux. Is this true? In such case how can we get the drivers. Actually this is one of the reason why I'm not switching from 7.1 to 7.2 or 7.3 or any other distribution. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Messenger IDs : MSN : s2sameer Yahoo! : s9sameer RediffBol : s2sameer Indiatimes : s2sameer Visit My web-site @ : www.geocities.com/s9sameer/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 Q u a s i wrote : >At 03:28 even 9/4/02 +0530, PTellis wrote: >>On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Q u a s i wrote: >> > click, get a presentation done for tomorrow in 20 minutes and >>go to >> >>powerpoint takes significantly more than 20 minutes to build a >>presentation. more than a few hours actually. even then the >>presentation isn't visible on an OHP because the person who >>built the presentation doesn't understand the difference between >>a CRT and a projector. > >If that comes to that, it is best to use transparencies and OHP >marker pens. That is why most of the dear lecturers at NCST do >that. > >>well, I use linux because it works better than anything else >>I've used, and it looks better than anything else I've used. >>Yes, I use X a lot when I'm at work, and it's painful to have to >>use a windows machine after sitting at my system. The widgets >>look ugly, the colours are >>terrible, the sharp edges I don't like, and the nasty >>double-clicking is too much for me. I use Gnome as my DM and >>Mozilla as my browser. > >{grin} we surely have different tastes. But I guess the colours >bit is a bit too much dont you think? You can have whatever >colours you like, windows or x. In XP you get all sorts of >curves too, translucence, shadow, single clicks - all the works. >Even getting single clicking to win98 SE is a trivial 5 sec job. >Come come Sir, let us be unbiased. > >I am not propagating M$ products. >I am not saying windows is better overall. >All I am saying is dont ignore the good points of M$. As I >mentioned earlier, M$ has had no qualms incorporating features >swiped from all over the place. >What makes windows bearable, too, are some super cool *free* >software available for it. *chop* Those are called give-aways. If you have paid for the software, you have paid for the give-away in a way. If you haven't what you are doing is illegal. >Anyway we can sit arguing like this forever. In the end, we get >used to and love what we use. Yes, we could go on... But we should remember that we should only do things that we love doing legally ;). I may agree that Windows does give much more better performance compared to Linux with respect to some areas. But then one must also take several other things into account. If Linux was a built like Windows it would be hundered times better, perhaps more stable even. You may like using MS today, but as how many people and I see it, GNU/Linux will have the upperhand in the future. You can mark my words for this one :). Amol Hatwar.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Q u a s i 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

At 07:09 even 9/4/02 +0530, Tellis wrote: >On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Q u a s i wrote: > > If that comes to that, it is best to use transparencies and OHP marker > > pens. That is why most of the dear lecturers at NCST do that. > >Hmm, I use HTML generated by a CGI script reading from a text file. It >takes me 20 minutes to make my text file. I use HTML for slides too. I dont have M$ Office. But a *lot* of others do. And calling them idiots is rather strange. q p.s. before we spiral out, please try to recollect my first mail, if you read it. I _am_not_ propagating Windows here for you all to jump on me. I did not even say anything against GNU/Linux. I only said X sucked. It really does. Why be zealotish?

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Q u a s i 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

At 08:01 morn 9/4/02 +0530, Nikhil wrote: >I can only imagine what it must be like for Arts/Commerce/ ppl to >understand what is Linux What makes you think that *all* CS BE students know what a computer is? I have a friend with TCS who did his BE CS from VJTI and who surprises me. And I know a few from Commerce/Arts who aint bad... not bad at all. quasi p.s. Engg is a big joke. If you know what I mean... ;-D

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [COMMERCIAL] SysAds Required / CISA,CISSPs Required
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 Nilesh Chaudhari wrote : >Hi! Guys, > >The company where I work needs system administrators with >the following requirements - > > * Should possess a BE degree with atleast 1 year > of system administration experience. > * Extensive knowledge of Linux/OpenBSD. > * Strong on TCP/IP & Networking > * Extensive knowledge of Proxies/Mail/DNS/FTP servers > * Well versed with Firewall architectures and IDSes > * Strong Shell / Perl Scripting Skills. > * Very good communication skills. > * Based in Mumbai. > >Additionally, there is also a requirement for CISA/CISSP >certified guys with following criteria - > > * Should possess atleast 2 years experience in the > security field. > * Should have CISA / CISSP certification ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Which company is this? How many people in India have CISSP certs? Just below a 100! Bleh! -ah.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Q u a s i 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

At 03:28 even 9/4/02 +0530, PTellis wrote: >On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Q u a s i wrote: > > click, get a presentation done for tomorrow in 20 minutes and go to > >powerpoint takes significantly more than 20 minutes to build a >presentation. more than a few hours actually. even then the presentation >isn't visible on an OHP because the person who built the presentation >doesn't understand the difference between a CRT and a projector. If that comes to that, it is best to use transparencies and OHP marker pens. That is why most of the dear lecturers at NCST do that. >well, I use linux because it works better than anything else I've used, >and it looks better than anything else I've used. Yes, I use X a lot when >I'm at work, and it's painful to have to use a windows machine after >sitting at my system. The widgets look ugly, the colours are >terrible, the sharp edges I don't like, and the nasty double-clicking is >too much for me. I use Gnome as my DM and Mozilla as my browser. {grin} we surely have different tastes. But I guess the colours bit is a bit too much dont you think? You can have whatever colours you like, windows or x. In XP you get all sorts of curves too, translucence, shadow, single clicks - all the works. Even getting single clicking to win98 SE is a trivial 5 sec job. Come come Sir, let us be unbiased. I am not propagating M$ products. I am not saying windows is better overall. All I am saying is dont ignore the good points of M$. As I mentioned earlier, M$ has had no qualms incorporating features swiped from all over the place. What makes windows bearable, too, are some super cool *free* software available for it. Anyway we can sit arguing like this forever. In the end, we get used to and love what we use. >I can watch movies full screen, and if only I could get a pair of speakers >in here, I could hear them too (my sound system is configured correctly). We can watch full screen movies in Windows too. :D And yes I require a pair of speaker to get sound out of windows too. BTW on my P200MMX watching fullscreen movies on Linux was *very* jerky. Ditto windows media player. But Cyberlink player played the same movies super smooth. > > that it has the potential to be ~170 deg K. > >hmmm... cool enough to get frostbite. ofcourse, if that's too cool for >some people, they could just switch themes, and linux would be hot! as you know, ice can give you "burns" ... :D So, that 170'K I mentioned is both super cool as well as burning hot - take your pick. Let me quote William Blake "If the doors of perception were cleansed, all things would appear infinite" quasi

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 Q u a s i wrote : >At 04:47 even 9/4/02 +0530, TH wrote: >>On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 15:05:35 +0530 >>Q u a s i <quasar(a)vsnl.net> wrote: >> >> > I still trip on winamp+tripex3 and surf the net with IE. >>(X-windows suxx majorly.) >> >>Hold it, hold it. Circa June 2000, my Gnome + Enlightenment >>desktop was a showcase that caused many a dropped jaws. I can >>any day say without hesitation that Gnome (haven't used KDE) is >>ages ahead of MS > >We dont agree. I have had X all the time past 6 years. But I >have always found it be a substandard, and a rather ad-hoc GUI. >The need to keep it generic and portable has made the X >architecture excessively slow. They are bring in (supposedly) >cool things like DRI etc. we shall see... I have used Gnome >(Xamian & otherwise) and it has definitely come a long way but it >lacks smoothness and that crisp feel. First time I installed >enlightenment and the bluesteel theme even my jaw dropped to the >floor. But enlightenment has eye candy but is bulky and slack & >I dont like nor need all those frills while working. Sawfish is >fast but still not smooth enough. IceWM & FVWM2 were the best I >have used. Windows 98SE is *way* faster and smoother and >crispier (talking about the GUI only) especially when you take >away the web integration. In the past 2 years I am using it I >have got the arbit blue screen only 4 or 5 times. And I have >hung my xserver as many times too. Whatever you use, you have to >tweak it for better performance, aint it so dear Sir? We can all >equally say {quote}"I'm sorry, you probably never tried to go >beyond the default settings of your window manager."{/quote} *cut* Starting from XP onwards this will change. MS GUI will be more idiot-friendly. Win98 SE is longer officially supported. Besides that is your copy legal? -Ah.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Image Support with PHP
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 Ravindra Jaju wrote : >On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 12:50:01PM -0000, Amol Hatwar wrote: > > > > Ahhh, see I'll make it sound simple - before any HTML is sent >to > > the browser, the server dishes out headers to it. The > > 'Content-Type' and Content-Size is one example, cookies are > > another. However this process only happens once, that is to >say > > you cannot send headers after you've sent the browser HTML. > > > > So do your includes _before_ sending HTML and do not print or >echo > > anything in the includes unless you obviously can't do with >out > > it. Also for debugging, set variables rather than using >die(). > >Not too sure about this, but iirc, this changes with the newer >version >of PHP. > >Output is buffered, so you can have headers anywhere. > >Need to confirm though. > Nor am I... but I am sure sometimes scripts have to run with older versions of PHP. Server Admins resist installing something new just because its has one new cool-feature. Basically they are *drones*, but with PHP the reasons are good - major security flaws. So its better to have headers before HTML. Your scripts stay portable. Regards, -Amol Hatwar.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Image Support with PHP
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 kapil_karekar(a)vsnl.net wrote : >Hi guys, > >I am having an issue with generating images using PHP. > >When I include the PHP file(ex. graph.php), which generates the >PNG image, in my current html file, it gives an error saying >"Headers already sent. * snip * Ahhh, see I'll make it sound simple - before any HTML is sent to the browser, the server dishes out headers to it. The 'Content-Type' and Content-Size is one example, cookies are another. However this process only happens once, that is to say you cannot send headers after you've sent the browser HTML. So do your includes _before_ sending HTML and do not print or echo anything in the includes unless you obviously can't do with out it. Also for debugging, set variables rather than using die(). Regards, -ah.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] command line MP3 player??
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 Q u a s i wrote : >At 12:06 morn 9/3/02 +0530, you wrote: >>hey luggerz >>does anyone know of a mp3 player that can be run from the >>command prompt >>my system gets real slow on the gui and even slower if i play >>some media >>Gurpreet > >try splay or mp3blaster. >on my Pentium MMX 200MHz it used to take up 9-11% system >resources according to top. Compare this with winamp which used >~40%. But the latest versions of splay and mp3blaster are >equally fast. > mp3blaster rawks! -ah

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Amarendra Godbole (Intl Vendor) 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

> Adding on to what Harsh said, I would like to point out that most > universities across the world are beginning to adopt UNIX as the > standard platform for teaching programming. UNIX ? But that's closed source isn't it (at least the commercial versions.) Was it s/UNIX/Linux that you meant to say ? --amar -- Amarendra A. Godbole / Microsoft ``Services For UNIX'' / These opinions are _MINE_. You are the sum total of the choices you make.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] command line MP3 player??
by Mandar Khanolkar 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

hi Gurpreet try mpg123 song.mp3 command. Mandar On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 Gurpreet Singh wrote : >hey luggerz >does anyone know of a mp3 player that can be run from the command >prompt >my system gets real slow on the gui and even slower if i play >some media >Gurpreet

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux CD
by upendra gandhi 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Statistical Analysis in PHP
by Amol Hatwar 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 kapil_karekar(a)vsnl.net wrote : >hi guys, > >I have a mysql database with some statistical data. I need to > >write a php script to perform analysis on that data. > >Does anybody know any functions in PHP which would help me > >to calculate mean. *snip* bad luck... AFAIK PHP has every function in the world except those. Try proding at the math functions - I haven't used them yet. If don't get anything there, we can implement it in PHP. If you need the functions to be fast - they should be; (PHP is about speed) we can implement it in C, and extend PHP. Perhaps, even get our modification incorporated. Regards, Amol Hatwar.

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command line MP3 player??
by Gurpreet Singh 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

hey luggerz does anyone know of a mp3 player that can be run from the command prompt my system gets real slow on the gui and even slower if i play some media Gurpreet

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[OT] [Commercial] Sort-term Professional courses at NCST
by Philip S Tellis 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

==================================================================== Short-Term Professional Education Courses at NCST ==================================================================== NCST is committed to India's role as a leader in software technology. Apart from carrying out R&D with a practical impact we also make a significant contribution to high quality education and training of professionals for the IT industry in India. NCST courses are highly valued for their balanced emphasis on core concepts as well as current technologies, and our Short-Term Professional Education (P.E.) courses are no exception. The details are available at the following address: http://www.ncst.ernet.in/education/advcourses/ Upcoming Short-Term Professional Education Courses at NCST Mumbai ----------------------------------------------------------------- Course | Date | Fees | Venue ------------------------------------------------------------------- Artificial Neural | September 16th - 20th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, Networks | 2002 | | Kharghar | | | Unified Software | September 16th - 20th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, Development Process | 2002 | | Juhu | | | Learning Management | September 23rd - 25th | Rs 4500/-| NCST, Systems | 2002 | | Kharghar | | | Assessment | October 16th - 18th | Rs 4500/-| NCST, Technologies | 2002 | | Kharghar | | | Intelligent | October 21st - 25th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, Information Retrieval| 2002 | | Kharghar | | | Fundamentals of | November 11th - 15th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, COM | 2002 | | Juhu | | | Fundamentals of | November 11th - 15th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, COM | 2002 | | Juhu | | | Theory and Applns of | November 25th - 29th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, Algorithms | 2002 | | Juhu | | | Graphics using OpenGL| February 3rd - 7th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, | 2003 | | Juhu | | | Computer Aided | March 24th - 28th | Rs 7500/-| NCST, Geometric Design | 2003 | | Juhu | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------- * Prospective participants from recognised, academic institutions (such as IIT, VJTI, BITS, IISc., etc.) are eligible for a 50% waiver in the course fee for all the Professional Education (PE) courses announced by NCST. Such application forms should be accompanied by a certificate from the Departmental Head or Principal of the academic institution to certify that the participant is a bonafide employee working in the capacity of a Lecturer/Professor/Technical Head, etc.

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Amarendra Godbole (Intl Vendor) 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

> windoz (dumb) ppl don't understand this , they are > addicted to it , they think windoz is GOD and Billu is > making money out of all this. Both the OSes' exist irrespective of our opinion about them. IMHO, these kind of statements are a bad advocacy. We should be `pro good' and not `anti something.' Just my 0.02 INR. --amar -- Amarendra A. Godbole / Microsoft ``Services For UNIX'' / These opinions are _MINE_. You are the sum total of the choices you make.

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IIS / ISAPI group
by kshitijv 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

Hi, Sorry for posting off topic message. But, I want to know if there are any similar user groups or mailing lists for IIS and ISAPI developers? can anybody give me some links for the same? -Kshitij kshitijv e-mail: kshitijv(a)forindia.com

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[ot] developer demographics
by Q u a s i 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

"A survey on demographics of open source developers. 98.9% male, 41.4% single, mostly in 20s, largest number aged 21, majority (48%) use Debian with Red Hat a distance second (13.8%), majority got involved in open source in second half of 1990s, 70% living in Europe." [quoted from a post on c.l.l]

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PPTP client
by Chris Caughey 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

Hi, Just wondering if you ever found the source of your problem referred to in the post below. I'm experiencing the same thing. Thanks, Chris Caughey [ILUG-BOM] PPTP client Girish Hanchate linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Thu Mar 28 15:10:06 2002 * Previous message: [ILUG-BOM] FETCHMAIL * Next message: [ILUG-BOM] Re: mail backup * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hi, I am facing problem while installing PPTP client on Redhat linux 6.2. I installed pptp-linux-1.0.3-1.i386.rpm & ppp-mppe-2.4.0-4.i386.rpm. after installing when i start setup it gives me following error Insecure $ENV{ENV} while running with -T switch at /usr/sbin/pptp-command line 505, <STDIN> chunk 1 Rgds Girish

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Image Support with PHP
by kapil_karekar＠vsnl.net 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

Hi guys, I am having an issue with generating images using PHP. When I include the PHP file(ex. graph.php), which generates the PNG image, in my current html file, it gives an error saying "Headers already sent". It then displays the image as ASCII text. This happens only when the include statement is preceeded by any html tags. if I remove the following statement from graph.php, it eliminates the error but still shows the image as ASCII text: 'header("Content-type: image/$this->img_format");' How do i make it work smoothly I am using the jpgraph 1.7 class library to generate the png images. Cheers Kapil Karekar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Image Support with PHP
by Chandrashekhar Bhosle 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

I do it this way with jpgraph // create a cached image <?php date_chart($rows, "years.png"); ?>  <center><img src="jpgraph_cache/years.png"></center> <table>...</table> function date_chart($rows, $aCachedName) { $graph = new Graph(512,384,$aCachedName, 0, false); // .......... } Change jpgraph constants USE_CACHE, READ_CACHE and CACHE_DIR to enable caching and put appropriate permissions on the cache dir. - cnb On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 09:58:23 +0530 "Kapil Karekar" <kapil_karekar(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi Chandrashekhar, > > Thanks for the reply. > In your mail you have mentioned that: "You can't send html tags before > displaying an image if > you're generating it in that script." > > However I need to display some results in a tabulated form and then show a > number of pie-charts based on those results. > > So there should be some way of interleaving html tags with dynamically > generated images. > > Any help will be really appreciated. > > Regards, > > Kapil > > > > >

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diff approach.... popularize linux in our college
by Gurpreet Singh 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

>Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 00:57:44 -0700 (PDT) > From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Diff approach......towards popularising linux in ur college >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > >--- Mitul Limbani <mitull(a)wrox.com> wrote: > > Well i have no issues on Saturdays .... >[snip] > Hello Luggers, > > Lemme add to the topic aldready under discussion. >Sometime ago Dr. Nagarjuna, Dinesh and me had been to >Sangli to conduct a 2 day WorkShop on gnu-linux. It >was quite an enriching experience and educatiing for >us too on various fronts. The enthusiasm of the >youngsters wanting to learn gnu-linux and being so >receptive to the idea of Free Software meant a lot to >all of us from the Ilug-Bom. [snip] only a handful of those ppl who attended the workshop are actually in touch with linux as of now and the rest have just forgotten it... reason-- those ppl were from the auto mobile branch and most of the comp branch guys didnt know abt it. we plan to do it exclusively for the comp sc. students who need things like these(as a part of there cirriculum). > > At the end of the workshop we had completed with half >of Hands on Installation for all of the students. And >i am pretty sure that some of them pple who Grasped >some of the Basics are still around. > > Instead of making it to the college again and >conducting another workshop, i should suggest that now >Rajaram Bapu College of Engineering form their own >Free-Software Cell which would consist of Like minded >pple interested in propogating the concept of Free >Software and also have an Open Forum for solving >Technical Problems related to Free Software >implementation all over their own college and the >surrounding colleges too. > [snip] we are from the lot that were there for the workshop and are very thankful to trevor and dr nag to introduce us to something as kewl as linux. but we are starters. we arent so well off with things that we can explain it to other ppl. i agree that we can introduce linux to ppl, but we wud need some experts to make things crystal clear and also to set up a fully equiped lab.. we have done as much as we cud by setting up a lab with a server for ftp and telnet but more needs to be done. we ourselves are having a few probs to which we need solutions.. SO PLZ I SUGGEST THAT LETS MAKE IT A COMBINED EFFORT, WE'LL HELP THE EXPERTS THAT COME BY TAKING UP PORTIONS OF THE WORKSHOP THAT WE ARE CONFIDENT WITH... I ALSO PROMISE A VERY GOOD RESPONSE THIS TIME. -Gurpreet > IF NEEDED, we can have a bootcamp in Bombay conducted >by the Ilug-Bom and SPEARHEADED by the luggers who >were ready to spare some time towards this noble >cause. This bootcamp could cover teaching some core >members of the College the core skills required to >setup/maintain the servers/setup of the Labs and also >indulge them in a HOWTO on setting up a local Free >Software grp in college. > > I think this is the right thing to do, since after a >2 day workshop @ Rajaram Bapu C.O.E by now some of the >core canidates should be bold enough to Spearhead the >Free Software Campaign with some amount Hand Holding > from our side. I > > I sincerely doubt re-conducting the whole workshop >episode again. > >Trevor Warren > > > > >

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] aint ny students keen on PRC..??
by Nikhil Karkera 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 Trevor Warren wrote : > Wat abt the rest of the world...??? Aint no students >interested...???? Hi Trevor, Below is my recent mail to Dr. Nagarjuna along with his reply. Didn't post this to the LUG. The mail was directed only to Dr. Nag, 'cause I stay in BARC, and could hop into HBCSE easily. However, I thought I should keep you informed. Warm Regards, Nikhil. On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 06:03:05PM -0000, Nikhil Karkera wrote: [snip] >I teach at a computer institute called "Amrita Institute of >Computer Technology (AICT)" which is located at Nerul, Navi >Mumbai. The institute conducts MSc. & BSc. degree courses in >"Software & Information Systems". These courses come under >Bhartihar University. > >The 2'nd year MSc. students have a 6-month full-time project as >part of their course curriculum for the final semester (Jan 2003 >- >June 2003). > >I have been following the discussions with regard to the PRC, >on >the LUG list. I am hoping to involve interested students from >the >institute with the PRC projects. However, I could not gather >much >about the kind of projects that the PRC would offer, what might >be >it's duration, etc. The students are keen to know. > >It would really help if a face-to-face discussion could be >arranged between the students and a mentor. Not only would such >a >session fulfill the purpose of answering their queries, it >would >also give the mentor a chance to evaluate the students and >direct >them to an appropriate project. > >I would be very greatful, if you could take some time off your >schedule for such a session. I think a discussion of 30 to 60 >minutes should suffice. The students are ready to come to >HBCSE. >You could give me some convinient time-slots wherein such a >discussion can be held, and I will make arrangements >accordingly. > >Many thanks, >Nikhil. > > I am now in Trivandrum, will reach Mumbai on 9th. Contact me on 9th afternoon, we will fix up soem time. Thanks Nagarjuna

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Hangman anyone?
by Tahir Hashmi 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

Hi! Does anyone have the text version of hangman? I tried google but nothing substantial turned up. (Uh, there was a 1.2 Meg *collection* of games and some BSD sources that didn't compile). Any ideas folks? -- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed

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qmail delivery
by Girish Hanchate 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

Hi, We are designing mailing setup for our offices. We are planing to use qmail as smtp for our all offices. Our setup will be having one IDC server which will be on R.H linux qmail & 15 branch offices server will which be also on R.H qmail. I have one doubt on qmail mail delivery, suppose my bracnh server users are sending single mail to 10 users will that mail travels 10 times to my IDC server or it will travels as a one single mail to IDC my server ? We will using outgoing SMTP server for all branches as a IDC server. Rgds girish __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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command mode screen-saver
by Nikhil Joshi 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

hi! I've observed that in character mode the monitor screen blanks if the PC is left unattended for some 10-15 mins. where is this setting located ? As a non-privileged user i gave this command: $ setterm -powersave powerdown -powerdown 1 but the monitor doesn't turn off after 1 min. Also has anyone used a screensaver for character mode? P.S. I'm beginning to luv char mode God help me !! ;) -- Nikhil

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Enabling AGP support on my Intel 850 with nVidia VANTA
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

Hi, For some reason AGP stays disabled in my kernel, according to /proc. Does that mean anything? My card was correctly recognised and configured by XFree86 4. I had compiled AGP support into my kernel, not as a module. trantor5:~# cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status Status: Disabled trantor5:~# cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card Fast Writes: Not Supported SBA: Not Supported AGP Rates: 4x 2x 1x Registers: 0x1f000007:0x00000000 trantor5:~# cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/host-bridge Host Bridge: Intel i850 Fast Writes: Supported SBA: Supported AGP Rates: 4x 2x 1x Registers: 0x1f000217:0x00000000 trantor5:~# cd /usr/src/linux-2.4.18/ trantor5:/usr/src/linux-2.4.18# grep AGP .config CONFIG_AGP=y CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y # CONFIG_AGP_I810 is not set <-- could this be the problem? # CONFIG_AGP_VIA is not set # CONFIG_AGP_AMD is not set # CONFIG_AGP_SIS is not set # CONFIG_AGP_ALI is not set # CONFIG_AGP_SWORKS is not set trantor5:/usr/src/linux-2.4.18# uname -a Linux trantor5 2.4.18 #4 Sat Aug 31 14:23:24 IST 2002 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheriff Chameleotoptor sighed with an air of weary sadness, and then turned to Doppelgutt and said 'The Senator must really have been on a bender this time -- he left a party in Cleveland, Ohio, at 11:30 last night, and they found his car this morning in the smokestack of a British aircraft carrier in the Formosa Straits.' -- Grand Panjandrum's Special Award, 1985 Bulwer-Lytton bad fiction contest.

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Attn programmers: support offered [FLOSS-Sarai Initiative]
by Frederick Noronha 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

Dear friends, Can we manage to get some money into backing Free/Libre Open Source Software initiatives, that would help young volunteers out there to support their cash-strapped initiatives? Sarai.net, a Delhi-based initiative under the CSDS (Centre for the Study of Developing Societies) has been solidly supportive of such an idea. Jeebesh Bagchi <jeebesh(a)sarai.net> sent in this offer recently. It could surely be of help particularly to college students and others wanting to make a break in Free Software/Open Source, but hamstrung by resources. It might help if projects are initially kept small and definitely workable, I guess. This is my own gut-level feeling, but maybe bigger initiatives which are clearly workable could also prove convincing. If such experiments prove useful, maybe there would be a good case for greater support to free software/open source developers in regions like ours. --FN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- The Sarai Programme, Centre for the Study of Developing Societies, Delhi (www.sarai.net) invites applications for Support Grants to projects in the area of Free Software, Open Source Software and Social Usage of Software Sarai invites programmers (practictioners as well as students) to propose projects in the area of free and open source software applications relevant to educational, social and community needs. We are looking for original ideas, as well as proposals to localize and adapt existing software and applications to South Asian conditions, For example - Desktops in Hindi, Open Office and Gimp in Hindi. Lighter versions of desktops like KDE, Innovations that creatively optimises older lower configuration machines, Linux documentation in Hindi, games using local context, etc. What is Sarai Sarai is a public initiative of media practitioners and scholars looking at media cultures and urban life. Sarai's interests are in the field of old and new media, information and communication technologies, free software, cinema, and urban space - its politics, built form, ecology, culture and history, with a strong commitment to making knowledge available in the public domain. It is a programme of the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies, Delhi. For more information visit www.sarai.net. Sarai is committed to promoting the free software and open source vision. Conditions: Applicants should be resident in India, and should have a bank account in any bank operating in India. These are support grants and grantees will be free to pursue their primary occupations, if any. Mail your project proposal, workplan and CV to both the following addresses: <application(a)sarai.net> with a copy to <fred(a)bytesforall.org>. Please mark your subjectline 'FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) Initiative'. Also point out what you see as the relevance of your work, and how you plan to share the resultant software once finalised. Enquires: dak(a)sarai.net Last date for submission: October 15th, 2002. Note: Proposals from teams, partnerships, collectives, faculty are welcome, so long as the grant amount is administered by a single individual, and the funds are deposited in a single bank account in the name of an individual. -------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Statistical Analysis in PHP
by Amol Hatwar 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 Philip S Tellis wrote : >On 29 Aug 2002, Amol Hatwar wrote: > > > If you need the functions to be fast - they should be; (PHP is >about > > speed) we can implement it in C, and extend PHP. Perhaps, even >get our > >AFAIK, PHP is nowhere near as fast as C (and friends), LISP, >Perl, Ruby >and Python. Philip :), give me something authoritative to believe you. And besides that my mail wasn't even about what is fast! Regards, -ah.

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Open Source + Government
by Frederick Noronha 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

Thanks to Sunil Abraham of Bangalore for posting this across to the BytesForAll mailing list. FN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Dear B4A Readers, Venezuela's Government Shifts to Open Source Software: The announcement, made on Wednesday, stated that from now on, all software developed for the government must be licenced under the GPL. The entire policy was summed up in this statement by Dr. Felipe P�rez-Mart�, Planning and Development Minister: "Open source whenever possible, propietary software only when necesary." http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-08-30-011-26-NW-LL-PB Open-Source Government One thing most technology experts can agree on is that California's state government has squandered billions on ill-conceived information-technology (IT) projects in recent years. Whether it was the more than $100 million in taxpayer funds that state authorities admit were wasted on the state's automated child-support system or the more recent purchase of thousands of unneeded software licenses from Oracle, the sorry record is painfully clear. California desperately needs a more workable IT plan. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2002/08/29/osg… Thanks, Sunil ===== Sunil Abraham [MAHITI] 314/1, 7th Cross, Domlur Bangalore - 560 071 Karnataka, INDIA Ph/Fax: +91 80 5352003. Pager: 9624 279519 sunil(a)mahiti.org http://www.mahiti.org _______________________________________________ Bytesforall_Readers mailing list Bytesforall_Readers(a)mail.sarai.net https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/bytesforall_readers

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux CD
by Amol Hatwar 31 Aug '02

31 Aug '02

On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 N.a.v.i.n ....D.h.a.n.u.k.a wrote : >Hi, > >You can get it from IndiaInfoTech.org . > >Dhiraj Thakur & Sheetal Chopra are doing a great job by serving >the >free software community with latest linux distros at affordable >costs. > >I got Debian 3.0 at just Rs 50/- a CD. >Thats real cheap & affordable as student *snip* I got the same at 30/- at linuxplaza.org. And yes Prahant Shah does a good job too. -ah

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] whats = do in syslog.conf
by akshaysalkar 31 Aug '02

31 Aug '02

but thats the same as mail.info why put the = ?? linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: hello akshay, akshaysalkar writes: > Does any one know what '=' does in the syslog.conf? > > well i know the reg. exps. *, ! etc. but could not really understand the 'man' about '='. > The equation sign specifies the priority of that particular facility. Let's see the following entry for eg.

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Linux CD
by Linux Group 31 Aug '02

31 Aug '02

Hello, Can anyone tell from where I can get the Redhat 7.3 or SuSe Linux CD ?? Thanks __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux Cd
by Amol Hatwar 31 Aug '02

31 Aug '02

On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 Abhijeet More wrote : >Hi, >For the GNU/linux cds, >check http://www.linuxplaza.org ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ AFAIK Will give you CDs for Rs. 30/- each! Plus, I got them on Samsung media. ;) Jeet. Amol Hatwar.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Statistical Analysis in PHP
by Amol Hatwar 31 Aug '02

31 Aug '02

On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 Kapil Karekar wrote : >I have tried scouring the net for statistical functions in php. >No luck 8~( > >Can you sugest any alternative methods which can be integrated >with PHP. As I had said earlier... make your own functions in PHP. If they prove to be slow make a dynamic module in C so that the function becomes native to PHP. In the later method your code and the function itself will run faster. If you need any help regarding this ... get in touch with me OFF_LIST! Amol Hatwar.

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can mails be accessed via SSL?
by akshaysalkar 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

can mails be accessed via SSL? say want to fetch the mails from VSNL and i use netscape messenger and if i try enabling SSL .? will it work? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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Linux Classes
by Linux Group 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

Hello Everybody, Can anybody tell me which and where is the Good Class for Linux in Mumbai which will clear all the funda?? Also one can try for Certification then ??? Thanks __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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NEWS: Grassroots push for 'open source' in Indian software
by Frederick Noronha 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

India-Tech/Development-Bangalore Grassroots push for 'open source' in Indian software By Frederick Noronha BANGALORE, Aug 26 (IANS): 'Open source' and free software could open up new windows of opportunity both for coders in the Indian software power-house, and also to benefit those on the wrong side of the digital divide. Soaring global software prices, tightening anti-piracy laws and even just the ethical edge it promises is pushing campaigners from across the country to lobby with international organisations and governments for the greater use of 'non-proprietorial' software. Increasingly, a small but growing band of 'free software' and open-source advocates are pushing for a greater emphasis to this form of software. Unlike proprietorial software, open-source can be freely copied and shared across computers. "If we calculate the actual cost (of pirated software being used in the ... country) India would lose a significant chunk of its billions earned from its software earnings," argues mahiti.org CEO Sunil Abraham. mahiti.org is a Bangalore-based non-profit organisation that works to 'affordable and simple' solutions to the non-governmental and non-profit sector. Bangalore's NGO sector is rather active, while this city is also considered the software Mecca and sometimes called India's Silicon Valley. Such a trend pushing towards 'open source' was visible during a United Nations Development Programme-organised meet to shape a UNDP-Government of India country programme on information and communication technologies (ICTs) for development held here on the weeked. Dominant global players, represented by firms like Microsoft, are hard-pressed to swim against the 'open source' demands. "Every technology has its pluses and minuses. If you find it is suitable for your purposes, go ahead and use it (open source software). But do an evaluation first. Don't be biased. Nothing is really free," argued Microsoft's manager for technical services in North India, Punya Palit. "It's not just the 'operating system' that is available, but some 1500 application softwares that come along with it," said Pune-based Systems Research Institute executive director Jagdish G Krishnayya. He pointed to the potential of software like Linux, which is getting increasingly noticed. 'Open source' or free software refers to non-proprietorial software that often allows its users to copy the programme across many computers, meaning that the cost of the software often plunges to unbelievable lows. Its proponents argue that while this may at first seem as affecting the viability of software businesses, it would throw open vast new fields to software usage in time to come. "Instead of spending money running after software piracy, the Government of India should spend the funds to promote open source software (which would also bring down piracy of proprietorial software)," Abraham argues. Other initiatives also give hint of the potential sought to be tapped in the field of open source software. Recently, UNDP's offices in the US were on the lookout for suitable Indian participants for a global conference, to be held in October at Washington-DC, on the use of 'open source for e-governance'. Delhi-based alternative organisation Sarai, affiliated to the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies (CSDS), along with a forum of lawyers in Bangalore and mahiti.org, plan to build a 'copyleft registry'. This would list all resources which are publicly accessible and freely reproduceable -- thus promoting its sharing, while at the same time protecting the rights of the person who created the work. But Abraham argues that public money -- spent on research institutions and universities -- should go towards building software that remains publicly-accessible, and thus 'open source'. He also points out that big names worldwide -- including Nasa, Nato and Walt Disney -- were going in for open source software, and there was no justification for India not. NGO workers and IT specialists also point to other related issues that block the power of computing in a country like India. Besides the software blocks, there are other factors hampering the greater use of computers in this country of a thousand million people but where PCs sold each year are barely two million or less. Computing was not benefiting the commonman because it was being divided by multiple standards, multiple vendors, its too-expensive nature, solutions that don't fit Indian requirements, and more importantly the lack of adequate and affordable local language technologies, it was pointed out. "There is this hype created by computer vendors that hardware needs to be updated constantly," says Government of Madhya Pradesh commissioner for family welfare Aruna Sharma, agreeing at this meet in some way on the need for countries like India to look to alternatives to battle the so-called 'digital divide' that excludes the poor from the power of computing. Pointing to other options coming up, Dr P Venkatachalam of the Indian Institute of Technology (Mumbai) said that India expects to have satellites that would offer hi-tech 'cartosat' information with detailed images in some two years time. But, he cautioned, the country would probably have not yet built up enough capacity and skills to make optimal use of such images, which could have considerable applications in rural areas and development. As this workshop pushed the attention on using ICTs for development, Government of India's Department of IT e-governance director S.P.Singh said fishermen in parts of the country -- particularly the southern Maharashtra coast -- were already using suitable technology. Some in Ratnagiri, coastal Maharashtra, had gained some access to low-cost fish-finders, global-positioning systems that identified their location and communication equipment which was being used to boost fish-catches.

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whats = do in syslog.conf
by akshaysalkar 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

Does any one know what '=' does in the syslog.conf? well i know the reg. exps. *, ! etc. but could not really understand the 'man' about '='. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Samba file server.
by akshaysalkar 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

u can enable shares for samba in [homes] section and for windows by enabling the share of the drive or directory. linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: Hi, I had setup a samba file server for my corporate. and it is functioning well. I need some help on setting up path to a share. ie, the executable programs like foxpro, norton utilites,I need to set the path while logging into the server. Is there any way to do this. Pls anyone advice me. thanks in advance Rajesh. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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Linux Cd
by Abhijeet More 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

Hi, For the GNU/linux cds, check http://www.linuxplaza.org http://www.indiainfotech.org ciao abhijeet

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Hardware: HDD Query
by Amol Hatwar 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 Sachin wrote : >hi there, >i am having trouble with Samsung 40GB hard disk >HDD detection on my linux 7.0 >and 440 BX/LX VIA Mother Board >with 64 mb ram could you be more descriptive please? Error messages etc. what trouble are you getting?

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[COMMERCIAL] SysAds Required / CISA,CISSPs Required
by Nilesh Chaudhari 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

Hi! Guys, The company where I work needs system administrators with the following requirements - * Should possess a BE degree with atleast 1 year of system administration experience. * Extensive knowledge of Linux/OpenBSD. * Strong on TCP/IP & Networking * Extensive knowledge of Proxies/Mail/DNS/FTP servers * Well versed with Firewall architectures and IDSes * Strong Shell / Perl Scripting Skills. * Very good communication skills. * Based in Mumbai. Additionally, there is also a requirement for CISA/CISSP certified guys with following criteria - * Should possess atleast 2 years experience in the security field. * Should have CISA / CISSP certification * Should have excellent communication skills * Strong verbal, written and organizational skills. * Strong Technical skills are an advantage. Please contact me off-list at nileshch(a)yahoo.com with your CVs. Nilesh Chaudhari. ________________________________________________________________________ Want to sell your car? advertise on Yahoo Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! visit http://in.autos.yahoo.com

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C Programming and Vi
by Nikhil Joshi 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

hi! I'm trying to adapt to C-Progamming in Linux (We have our B.E. project on Neural Networks and we are supposed to write the c programs in Linux) I find the Vi features set cindent and syntax on very helpful. After writing the program I have to press ctrl-z ,run gcc ,check the errors , fg This is very annoying.I would like to compile the program in vi itself, see the errors,go to the line causing the error,and then if the compile is succsessful run the program. Is this possible ? (I guess this is possible with some tinkering with .vimrc) Can anyone please post his .vimrc Are there any good ide's exclusively for character mode ? I checked out freshmeat but did not find any good ide (I've used Anjuta but I would like console based ide) Please help -- Nikhil Joshi

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Statistical Analysis in PHP
by kapil_karekar＠vsnl.net 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

hi guys, I have a mysql database with some statistical data. I need to write a php script to perform analysis on that data. Does anybody know any functions in PHP which would help me to calculate mean, standard deviation, cross tabulation, variance from the tables in mysql database. cheers kapil

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Announce] country codes and state list
by Amol Hatwar 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 Philip S Tellis wrote : >On 28 Aug 2002, Amol Hatwar wrote: > > > Why if it is available publicly on the Net - they muat have >put it for > > use. Displaying that they possess the list doesn't seem to be >the > >The info is in the World Factbook 2001 published by the CIA, and >has >tonnes of more information than I need. Like most books though, >its >information may be copyrighted and republishing may not be >allowed. > *snifff* why do I pretend that a non-free world exists out there. Did you try contacting them and asking for permissions to use the info. Perhaps they might say a yes if they are in their elements. With warm wishes, Amol Hatwar.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Announce] country codes and state list
by Amol Hatwar 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

>I believe the CIA has a more comprehensive list than I do, but >then I >don't have the resources that they do. Also, not sure if using >their >info is allowed. Advice? Why if it is available publicly on the Net - they muat have put it for use. Displaying that they possess the list doesn't seem to be the idea. Regards, Amol.

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dns??? !!!
by upendra gandhi 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

hi all i gotta q'nhere it is see i got domain name www.upen.com i have 2 ips a and b now initially www.upen.com points to b when b goes down due to some prob then i want dns to point www.upen.com to 'a' how do i achieve this???? ===== upendra gandhi CIW ASSOCIATE (Server Admin.Internetworking Professional, Security Professional) http://home.graffiti.net/upengan78 upengan78(a)hotmail.com pengan78(a)linuxfreemail.com upengan78(a)epatra.com upengan78(a)graffiti.net upengan1978(a)netscape.net "THE LIVING GOD IS WITHIN YOU" Dearest 'swami vivekananda' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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[Announce] country codes and state list
by Philip S Tellis 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

I have compiled a list of country codes (from iso3166) and state/region/province lists for as many countries as I could find, alongwith whether they are states, regions or provinces. These have been useful to me in the past, and I figure that they'll be useful to others too. That, and I don't feel like making backups. So, go ahead and download it and make local copies, it's available at http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/lug-authors/philip/ If you think you have some updates to provide, mail them in and I'll be happy to include them after verification. I believe the CIA has a more comprehensive list than I do, but then I don't have the resources that they do. Also, not sure if using their info is allowed. Advice? Philip PS: how many people think that this would be good as a sourceforge project. Not just the lists, but also sample code in a variety of languages to use these lists in your application. I already have code for java and perl. -- "But the important thing is persistence." -- Calvin trying to juggle eggs

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modem usb isdn ta
by sal tamburrino 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

Per favore, perché non mi dici come si fa a far funzionare un modem USB ISDN TA su redhst linux. Ti ringrazio anticipatamente. Salbatore Tamburrino. Tel. 0815017387

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[OT] - Vacancies for C++ / Delphi Professionals
by Shishir 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

MessageHello all, A friend of mine working with a UK based company needs the following. Please contact immediately if someone is interested. He is coming down around 10-15th of September to India and this can be taken further then. Regards, Shishir ----- Original Message ----- From: Kiran Wadmare To: iamshishir(a)lycos.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 2:08 AM Subject: Profiles Software Programers: Qualification: Min Science Graduate Experience: Min 1year in Application Programming Proficiency: C++ (Delphi/Pascal will be added advantage) Location: Chennai Salary: Industry Average Company: Raytech Solutions - Software Startup Company for established UK based Clients (Mainly Government sector and Manufacturing Firms) Main Business Areas: Software Application Development, Programing for wireless Data Transfer using Radio Modem Technology, Design and Development of Secured Transaction based websites. Currently looking out for C++ Programers to be trained in Delphi If you need any more information, please mail me. Thanks and regards, Kiran

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servers hang mysteriously
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

Hi, We have a Compaq Proliant ML350 with two 1G P4's and hardware RAID. It's running RHL 7.3 with the general services services enabled. Only exception is that qmail and tinydns have replaced the original counterparts. A bare installation of X is present, just enough provide libraries that allow users to remotely view postscript files. Now the problem is that the server hangs intermittently, for no apparent reason. The keyboard stops responding, the monitor goes blank and it does not respond to ping packets. We had heard of a kernel bug in RHL 7.3 which causes SMP machines with ext3 to panic. But the hang-ups continue even after upgrading to kernel-smp-2.4.18-10 from redhat.com We suspect a hardware problem since an identical machine is working fine with the same setup. Only difference is that this second machine does not have active users yet. But where do I start looking to rule out any config problems, bad software, careless users etc? The logs never get written, since we have to reset the machine ... Sameer. -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ####[ Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]########################### Sub : Sound file conversion LOST #053 To convert a sound file from one format to another like .mid to .wav or .au, use the sox utility. man sox for details. ####<bish(a)nde.vsnl.net.in>###################################

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popularise linux in our college
by Gurpreet Singh 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

hi luggerz We have an institution where the computers and IT deptt is new and there is a lot of enthusiasm pertaining to linux among the staff. We have a spl linux lab set up. But the prob is that linux is new to everyone. there are a few ppl like us who have attended seminars but we still are learning. i would like to sugggest that some of u plz visit us and hold a seminar for linux. Trever & Dr. Nag held one such seminar in the feb wherein we were introduced to linux and the i-lug bom. but very few ppl attended that since it was organized by the automobile deptt. Now we have around 200 students who have a whole linux lab to their disposal but dont know what to do with it. I ensure a much better response this time... adding to this, we have a college closeby in a similar situation and we can organise a seminar there too. two engg colleges in one shot... this was painting a very rosy picture... the downer is that the college is at abt 7 hrs journey from mumbai, but in feb trevor n dr nag were here :) what do u guiys think Gurpreet

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X server crash
by Parul Mathur 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

Hi, A friend of mine was trying to install a screen saver on his Red Hat 7.2 linux box when X crashed. He replaced his XF86Config-4 file with the original. He is still getting an error: Could not init font path unix/:7100, removing from list! Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' Can you suggest what steps he should take to recover from the X server crash? Thanks. Parul

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] PHP Issues
by Amol Hatwar 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

Hi Kapil, >I am having an issue with a PHP site that i am building. I know >this is a bit offtrack but i will really appreciate it if >anyone >could suggest a solution. >I have a php script which is generating some dynamic content. >The file also contains other php scripts. I want to store the >content generated by the php script in a string rather than >outputting it to the browser window. I would want to know why you want to do this. There are better ways to cache content. If you don't want to display content if a particular script fails, than you should use output buffering. Refer the PHP manual. It's invaluable. Since you are still building a site, I suggest you have a look at this link. It's a recent article that I wrote, perhaps it may be of some help to you. http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/wa-phprock1/index.html And if you still want content in a variable, lets talk off-the-list. :) With warm wishes, Amol Hatwar.

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Neighbour table overflow
by funky 27 Aug '02

27 Aug '02

hi linuxers, I am doing natting using ipchains on linux box. the problem i that i am continuosly getting error messages like " Neighbour table overflow " on /var/log/messages. It seems that my arp table is getting overflowed due to the load. I tried the man page of arp command and there is no option to directly delete all the enteries of the arp table. Or is there any other solution ? regards, funky. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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Flush Qmail queue?
by Steven Rebello 27 Aug '02

27 Aug '02

I needed some help with the qmail setup in a firm I have just joined. The server is the gateway for an office intranet with qmail as MTA. Internal mail works fine, but since the linux box is on dial up, the outgoing messages are queued up. the server auto-dials ( using wvdial ) every half-hour and fetchmail is executed (in ip-up.local). The problem is that some times the qmail queue does not get cleared and some emails are never sent. daemontools are not installed.The qmail daemon is started using the csh -cf method. I looked up qmail.org and tried the recommended kill -TERM <qmail-send pid> but does not seem to work. Does anyone know why this happens? And is there any method by which I can manually flush the queue and send all the messages instantly? If there is any more info needed, pls let me know. Thanks for any help, Steven Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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enabling nmbd or smbd?
by akshaysalkar 27 Aug '02

27 Aug '02

in samba f&p server can i enable just smbd or nmbd only? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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Linux and Solaris
by noel seq 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

Hi, Is it possible to Install both Linux and Solaris(I have solaris 2.8 & RHL 6.2) on the same host and same hdd. Has anyone done it before. Are there any issues to be kept in mind. Thanx Noel _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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FETCHMAIL Problem
by Anil Mare 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

Hi All, Can anyone help me out with the following situation? A littile bigger mail, sorry! but can't help!! The Scenario: My mail server is in US of A. I have two locations here in Mumbai Have two multi-drop mailboxes for each location on the US server. Two locations have local linux mail servers, which fetches their respective multi-drop mailboxes from US server and distribute locally. The domain at US server: domainname.com The domain for the server at first location: domainname.com The domain for the server at first location: domainname.com (the same, this is done so that the local mails will be distributed locally.) The mails are delivered using virtusertable. the mails for the users at other location are forwarde to the US server using www.domainname.com (www is specified in the local DNS as the ip of US serever (using @domainname:%1@www.domainname.com) The mails at both the locations are fetched using fetchmail. The Problem: When the mails at one location r fetched having the following header: To: user_at_location1(a)domainname.com, user_at_location2(a)domainname.com (no problem of the TO: has all users for the same location ) The mail for first user is dropped locally, while fetchmail is delivering a mail to second user also, which with the help of virtusertable is sent again to the US server (P.S.: user two already has received his copy of mail) Sometimes the mails r roaming in the following manner. location1 <-> US_Server <-> location2 <-> US_Server <-> location1 I know this is a fetchmail problem, that to cos of the multidrop mailbox, but can't help myself, can anyone?? Anil __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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LinuxInIndia#5 * Happy Birthday Tux
by Frederick Noronha 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

GNU _ _____ _____ http://linuxinindia.pitas.com | | (_) |_ _| |_ _| | |_ | | _ _ __ _ ___ __ | | _ __ | | _ __ __| (_) ___ | | | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / | | | '_ \ | | | '_ \ / _` | |/ _ \ | |____| | | | | |_| |> < _| |_| | | |_| |_| | | | (_| | | (_) | |______|_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\_____|_| |_|_____|_| |_|\__,_|_|\__,_| CopyLeft2002 GNU/GPL v2 OR LATER * ISSUE005 * AUGUST 25, 2002 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Co-edited by Frederick Noronha and Parag Mehta <pm at linuxindia dot org> * Issue released on the eleventh birthday of Linux, Aug 25, 2002 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In this issue o Indianising GNU/Linux o The Penguin goes to school (Delhi, Goa, etc) o NevyOS, the debate rages o Project Elx o Seeking developers for Simputer apps o Elx Linux o FSF-India is one year young o Community site for GNU/Linuxers o Indians working in GNU/Linux o Special focus on.... o Persian GNU/Linux o From the land of the Samba +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Archives at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/linuxinindia +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SOME INITIATIVES TO INDIANISE GNU/LINUX: We learn from G Karunakar <karunakar(a)freedomink.org> that support for Indian languages is coming in slowly, but there are several efforts going towards this end on the GNU/Linux front. For instance: * IndLinux project www.indlinux.org / www.sourceforge.net/projects/indlinux A volunteer group working at the desktop level (KDE/GNOME), using Unicode, but ISCII will also be supported by providing convertor tools, Current focus on Opentype fonts development, translations for GNOME 2.0 . * IndiX http://rohini.ncst.ernet.in/indix/ A modified X server to support Indian languages using opentype fonts. Uses Unicode * IITM indlinux http://www.tenet.res.in/Donlab/Indlinux/ Have modified X & console in kernel to support indian languages. Use ISCII encoding only. * Linux Localisation Initiative ( LLI ) - lli.linux-bangalore.net A volunteer group working on translating LDP documentation (starting with HOWTOs) to indian languages. * Indic-computing project. indic-computing.sourceforge.net Aim is to create a resource center for all indian language issues in computing. * Language Technology Resource center (LTRC), IIIT Hyderabad. - http://www.iiit.net/ltrc/index.html Have developed language dictionaries, plugin for viewing ISCII, and font convertors. Also doing a machine based translation tool (Anusaaraka). Most of their work is release under GNU GPL. Projects listed at # 2, 3 and 6 are sponsored by government. Rest are volunteer based, looking for funds. Karunakar is himself involved with the IndLinux project. The active people (in the indian language area) at the Media Lab Asia are Venky Hariharan <venky(a)medialabasia.org> who is one of the founders of IndLinux project, and Tapan Parikh <tap2k(a)yahoo.com>. Both are actively working towards Indian-language computing, through Indic-computing project (indic-computing.sourceforge.net), and are also planning to hold a small, informal and preliminary workshop for Indian language computing in Bangalore in September. If you feel you'd like to share your ideas with them, please get in touch. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PERL MODULE FOR INDIAN LANGUAGES: M K Saravanan <mksarav(a)comp.nus.edu.sg> drew the attention of the Indian Linux Users Group in Chennai <ilugc(a)aero.iitm.ernet.in> to this perl module to handle Indian language I/O Check http://acharya.iitm.ac.in/perl_enhance.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ MALAYALAM GNU/LINUX PROJECT: Baiju M <malayalamlinux(a)yahoo.com> is one of those who is planning to work with the Malayalam GNU/Linux project (being undertaken by the KBIP and the Free Software Foundation-India, as he recently mentioned, in passing. Could someone offer an update on how that's going? All the best to you guys... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ HANDLING TELUGU: AkRti is a framework to facilitate easier development of applications that can handle the Indian language Telugu. The modular architecture decouples the input method, the underlying syllable based representation and the on screen display/print. http://sourceforge.net/projects/akrti/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ INDIAN HOLY BOOKS: Explores indian holy books that are in sanskrit & translate them in english beside this project will also speak sanskrit shaloks which user will select it is useful for the peoples working on indian culture... http://sourceforge.net/projects/ved/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PATCH FOR LOCAL LANGUAGES: This is K Ratheesh's <rathee(a)lantana.tenet. res.in> comment on Indianizing GNU/Linux (this point was made some time back when he was a student at the IIT-Madras... email contacts might have changed): "I am working on enabling Linux console for local languages. As the current PSF format doesn't support variable width fonts, I have made a patch in the console driver so that it will load a user defined multi-glyph mapping table so that multiple glyphs can be displayed for a single character code. All editing operations will also be taken care of. "Further, for Indian languages, there are various consonant/vowel modifiers which result in complex character clusters. So I have extended the patch to load user defined context sensitive parse rules for glyphs / character codes as well. Again, all editing operations will behave according to the parse rule specifications. "Even though the patch has been developed keeping Indian languages in mind, I feel it will be applicable to many other languages (for eg. Chinese) which require wider fonts on console or user defined parsing at I/O level. "Currently I have developed the patch for Kernel versions 2.2.14 and and am in the process of making it for 2.2.16 and 2.2.17. I request people to try out this patch and give comments and suggestions to me. "Those who want to try out this patch can send mail to me in the address rathee(a)lantana.iitm.ernet.in or to indlinux- iitm(a)lantana.iitm.ernet.in The package , containing the patch , some documentation ,utilities and sample files will come around 100 KB. Try also www.ratheeshkvadhyar.com ratheesh(a)rediffmail.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ COMPUTER VIA ONE BUTTON: Arun Mehta of New Delhi <mehta(a)vsnl.com> informs of the site http://indataportal.com/software/hawking.htm Check out the Hawkings project there. You will find links to both, the executable and the source code. Do also go to http://www.radiophony.com/html_files/hawking.html Says he: "Your suggestions on how to make using the computer a little more convenient with just one button would also be welcome -- perhaps you will consider joining the mailing list radiophony(a)yahoogroups.com, where this is being discussed?" (Join via radiophony-subscribe(a)yahoogroups.com) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FINALLY, GNU/LINUX BECOMES A DEFAULT OS: This interesting story comes from Raman.P <raamanp(a)yahoo.co.in> via the Chennai ILUG group. Raman is with the Railway Hospital, Chennai: "Recently we ordered five PCs from M/s HCL Infosystems through DGS&D, Govt of India rate contract (the Directorate Supply of Supply and Distribution, the body which undertakes purchasing for the government sector). We didn't order any OS or other softwares as we use GNU/Linux. To our surprise we received the box with preinstalled Debian Linux. It seems HCL has a policy of not sending out any machine without OS. Hence, if no OS is ordered then Debian is loaded. Well at last GNU/Linux is the default operating system." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GNU/LINUX IN SCHOOLS: Delhi and Goa, two regions trying to get GNU/Linux into the classroom, are exchanging their own 'distros' and software... to see how they could share experiences. Contact Pankaj <pankaj(a)sarai.net> or Tom Fernandes <anyaddress(a)gmx.net> for details +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SOME FIGURES FROM GOA SCHOOLS COMPUTERS PROJECT: Ashley Delaney <delaneyashley(a)softhome.net> reports that the second shipment of once-used computers to Goa (the first to use GNU/Linux) saw Goa Sudharopo send in some 380 PCs. Some 40 were Macs, and 70 had licensed Windows OS on them. Some 123 had hard disks, while the rest had none or were non-working PCs. These wer edistributed to over 107 schools across Goa. For the 123 or so PCs, a customized distribution of GNU/Linux was loaded by LUG volunteers, based on Redhat 7.2. "It was made keeping in mind, the low hardware specs of the machines, the hard disk space and programs needed," says Delaney (21). "As a result, over a period of three weeks of brainstorming. they came up with a customized version of RH which fitted on 1 CD, was capable of running even on a pentium 100 with 32 MB ram with 1.2 GB of hard disk space. The total installation did not exceed 800 MB with SWAP space. It has Gnome and Windowmaker and excluded all the other desktops including icewm, and KDE.... "As a result, 20 schools all over Goa, are now running on this LTSP Linux solution, and over approx 30 schools with the standalone Linux on their donated systems," says Delaney. But he adds: "However, the main source of backlash has been lack of support and help." This mail, with other background, was recently shared on the fsug-calicut mailing list... for others to learn from the experiences. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ AND... SOMETHING FROM DELHI. Check the Delhi issue... The archives are at: http://www.mail-archive.com/school%40linux-delhi.org/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GNU/LINUX IN GERMAN SCHOOLS: Winfried Truemper <me(a)wt.xpilot.org> informs counterparts in India that there is a project about GNU/Linux in German schools running for several years now. You may want to contact info(a)pingos.schulnetz.org for exchange of experiences. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NEW VERSION OF GLUE: Ajith Kumar <ajith(a)nsc.ernet.in> announces a new version of GLUE -- the GNU Linux Utilities for Education. This came on July 30, 2002. You can browse the CD and install packages from it. Compilers for logo, basic, pascal etc are include. Lot of tutorials on various topics. Graphics Programming on GNU/Linux for the Turbo C fellows. The new version includes an installation script and does the following: (i) Converts the GNU/Linux installed machine to a Terminal Server. Installation and configuration of LTS is done by the script. If the terminal video cards are autodetected by XFree86-4, they just boot from the ether-boot floppy created. This has been tested on Redhat 7.1 & 7.3. (ii) Installs and configures IceWM, a fast, flexible window manager ideal for terminal servers, and puts a menu tailored for school use. (iii) Installs other RPM & TGZ packages from CD Anybody interested in getting a copy may contact the Free Software User Group Calicut <fsug(a)rediffmail.com> or <ajith(a)nsc.ernet.in> or Rajeesh P., Calicut, (Ph. 355415) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ COMMENTS ON THE NEVYOS: Rajesh <rk(a)coralindia.com> has this to say about the NevyOS featured in an earlier issue of GNU/LinuxInIndia: Downloaded NevyOS, have planned to put it on a Ricoh Touch Screen Device, lying with me since long. Hope it will work. (It has a 486 processor.) Another one, which I dunno if I can change the OS, is running on MIPS. Device called ePOD, one of the slickest Tablets I have seen yet. Been using since over 1 year now with a 802.11b Dlink card. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ MORE ON THE NEVYOS PLAN: Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)mac.com> explains issues arising out of the open source licensing of NevyOS. Says he: "We are contemplating going Open Source with NevyOS. Reason: 1. Its time Unix took a break from X. NevyOS is best poised to do that. 2. Its time we gave MS a run for its money on the desktop too. Again, NevyOS is best poised to do that (because, currently there are over 10 developers world wide developing killer apps for NevyOS, they would like to go open source too). But, at the same time what could be the alternatives for generating revenues if I have to atleast gain back on the investment? Could someone be charged if he is deploying NevyOS on a hardware platform of his design? If yes, what sort of a license will we have to put NevyOS under? Any brain storms on how we can enforce such licenses worldwide?" +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PEOJECT ELX: DesktopLinux.com founder and executive editor Rick Lehrbaum interviews Abhi Datt, Chief Software Architect and founder of Project ELX, a new project to create a uniquely easy-to-use Linux distribution. Abhi Datt describes his vision for Project ELX, lists the main features of the ELX Linux distribition, provides an update on the status of ELX, and shares his thoughts on how Linux can succeed on the desktop and elsewhere. http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT6850645834.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PEOPLE TO DEVELOP SIMPUTER APPS: Samyeer <sam(a)ncoretech.com> offers tips on what to do if you're a developer willing to develop Simputer <www.simputer.org> apps. Says he: "You can use GTK+ on the Simputer. If you are looking to get started then download the App Framework that is available at http://www.ncoretech.com/simputer/simputer/download.html and you can link in your GTK+ applications too.... We are looking for people/companies who will develop applications for the Simputer. Any help towards that would be really appreciated." Don't miss your date with what could possibly be computing making history in India. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SOME SITES/LISTS: Some GNU/Linux mailing-lists and sites in India: ilugd(a)wpaa.org ILUG-Delhi fsf-friends(a)gnu.org.in FreeSoftwareForum-India (Discussion list) linux-india-general(a)lists.sourceforge.net LinuxIndiaGeneral http://www.ilug-cal.org Indian Linux User's Group-Kolkata +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ONE YEAR YOUNG: July 20, 2002 was the first anniversary of the inauguration of FSF India in Trivandrum, as Rajkumar S <raj2569(a)yahoo.com> notes. Happy burday mates! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ COMMUNITY SITE FROM GNU/LINUXERS: Himanshu <himanshu_s(a)myrealbox.com> announces he has launched a new site, http://www.thefreespeech.org which is basically a community web site for GNU/Linuxers. Its main aim is "to initiate, collaborate and contribute" to the GNU/Linux cause. The site itself, is home to the ILUG-BOM's novel "Project Resource Centre" idea, which will help ease the collaboration between students undertaking GNU/Linux projects and self appointed "mentors". "I guess, in the future it will also be home to dead projects, or very small projects / scripts, which have not been (or are to small to be) hosted at Sourceforge," he adds. Neat idea! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ INDIANS WORKING ON GNU/LINUX WORLDWIDE: Thanks to Ravi Shekhar S <ravi__at__india__dot__com> for an interesting compiliation on Indiaians working on GNU/Linux worldwide. Below are his descriptions; looking forward to the additional list he'll be sending: * Ambarish Malpani of Valicert inc.,( http://valicert.com/ ) --- he's the guy who ported Apache to windows NT and he's also the key contributor to the Apache project. * Karthik Ram ( http://karthikram.org/ ) --- he is an ecologist by profession but a great enthusiast of open source and he is famous for his award winning ecology search engine ( http://ecocrawler.org/ ) * Manish Singh (YOSH) ( http://yosh.org/ ) --- he is the official release manager of gimp ( http://gimp.org/ ) he is one of the developers of script-fu and net-fu. He is considered as one of the masters in the gimp foundation (others are "xach" (http://xach.com), "Larry Ewing" (http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/) etc.) even off the gimp world, this guy is one of the most respected guys in university of Berkeley. * Mukund S (http://mukund.info/) --- a guy from Auroville( a township in pondicherry) He's now starting a new company called TESSNA (http://tessna.com/) he is yet another gimp developer and he also worked for Ximian, linux.com. His buddies include Garrett LeSage (http://linuxart.com/), tigert (http://tigert.gimp.org/), Jimmac (http://jimmac.musichall.cz/), Miguel de Icaza ( http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/ ) He is also one of those Gtkhtml hackers. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ WROX INDIA: Wrox India's (www.wrox.com)'s Programmer to Programmer site is http://p2p.wrox.com/ Search and Read Libraries of our Books Online at www.wroxbase.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LIBYAHOO2: Check Philip's <philip(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> work on http://libyahoo2.sourceforge.net/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ OPEN SOURCE/FREE SOFTWARE IN E-GOVERNANCE: Pamela Street of the World Bank <pstreet(a)worldbank.org> informs about a new conference, which indicates the growing interest in Open Source/Free Software. It's called 'Open Source: A Case for e-Government' and will be held in Washington, DC Oct. 17 - 18, 2002 The conference will draw participants from local, national and international organizations from both the public and private sector. The goals of the conference include: the presentation of best practices; raising awareness sharing of experiences among policy makers, donors users/consumers; universities, and industry specialists in Open Source, e-Government and related fields. Speaking and demonstration proposals are invited. More details from the conference website http://www.egovos.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SPECIAL FOCUS ON... Sayamindu Dasgupta (17-1/2) a self-defined "Crazy GNU/Linux-er". Website http://www.peacefulaction.org/sayamindu ON HOW HE GOT INVOLVED WITH GNU/LINUX: Well, to be honest, I was bored with the same old Windows, and so, looking for an alternative OS. I could not afford a Mac, and so, I went to the local computer bookstore, and bought a book on Linux. That book had 3 CDs with it and one of them was Debian GNU/Linux 2.1. I decided to try that out, and popped the CD into my cdrom drive, and rebooted. But once the installation started, I could make neither head, nor tail out of that, and aborted the installation. Then after a few months I decided to try out Caldera OpenLinux 2.3. That worked brilliantly and I was in love with Linux within a few days. AGE AND 'OTHER PERSONAL STUFFS': 17 and half. Occupation -- student at South Point High School at Kolkata. Career plans -- to study physics (will try to go abroad for undergrad.) Present activities related to GNU/Linux: * Co-author : PCTel HSP Micromodem configuration miniHOWTO for the Linux Documentation Project <en.tldp.org> * Maintainer: PCTel HSP Micromodem GNU/Linux compatibility database <pctelcompdb.sourceforge.net> * Working on EricaOS - a web based Operating system designed mainly for web tv users (it will be running on top of a GNU/Linux server) * Writing the manual of KFstab - a KDE application which allows easy editing of the /etc/fstab file through a graphical interface. * Editor of the Linux - Support section of the Open Directory Project (dmoz.org) * One of the most active members of iLUG-Cal (Kolkata LUG) * Working in the LOST project <lost.sourceforge.net> * Started work on a set of modules for drupal (drupal.org) that would let Linux User's Groups use the drupal syetem as their website (the modules will provide support for meeting management, minutes management, GNU/Linux cd-rom burning and distribution network management, mailing list management etc. along with the usual features of drupal) * Also done some work with regard to Bangla on GNU/Linux. * Authored a few articles on GNU/Linux (www.peacefulaction.org/sayamindu/docs.php) * Founder member/admin of http://www.peacefulaction.org which deals with GNU/Linux along with social and environmental issues. Future plans related to GNU/Linux: A website which would enable users to enlist, rate and write about compatibility of branded computers with GNU/Linux. Will be a mix of dmoz.org and pctelcompdb.sourceforge.net . If possible this will also certify, on basis of user ratings compatibility of branded PCs. Says he: "I also have plans to initialise an effort to translate the Gnome and KDE interface to Bangla, and some work has already started in this direction." Also plan to do something regarding desktop GNU/Linux (not sure what though). Write some more documents for the GNU/Linux newbie and on GNU/Linux advocacy Non GNU/Linux Activities: Is a member of the Mensa International (mensa.org). Code in PHP (done some work for projectpi.sourceforge.net). Also work for the Open Internet encyclopedia (open-site.org). Do some amateur astronomy ("don't get much time nowadays... also obsessed with physics"). Worked on a set of motion related graph generation system with php ("just for fun"). Is also obsessed with Richard Feynman. Phew! What a list at achievements... that too at 17-1/2! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PERSIAN LINUX. Roozbeh Pournader <roozbeh(a)sharif.edu> informs in a posting to Pakistan's PLUC: "About Persian Linux, we don't have much information published on our website (almost everything is in our mind), but it may be worth looking: <http://www.farsiweb.info>. Actually it is the Arabs that have a good community and are advancing with a good pace. Their website is at: <http://www.arabeyes.org/>. For general information about Linux and Unicode, one should see: <http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html>. I believe we are able to help anyone who wants to create and organize a Urdu Linux project for a start. We are already familiar with many internationalization groups, and can make sure the wheel won't be reinvented. Feel free to find someone with enough time as hand as an organizer, and introduce him/her to me." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FROM THE LAND OF THE SAMBA: Guilherme Lemos <guilherme(a)conectiva.com.br> from Brazil recently wrote in to say that he works for Conectiva (the GNU/Linux distro from the land of the Samba). His company also works on the magazine 'Revista do Linux'. Lemos is currently writing an article about GNU/Linux in India for the next edition. He's looking for info on GNU/Linux's deployment in India. If you could offer him some pointers, write to him at the above address. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ * FOOTNOTE: Frederick Noronha <fred at bytesforall dot org> is a Goa-based freelance journalist, who writes on IT-for-development and GNU/Linux themes regularly, and is cofounder of BytesForAll <www.bytesforall.org>. In the past year, he worked on a print media fellowship to study India's contribution to GNU/Linux, from www.sarai.net (Sarai-New Delhi) Parag Mehta <pm at linuxindia dot org> is webmaster for Linux India, listadmin for Ilug-bom, Country Manager of India for Linux Counters (do get counted as a GNU/Linux user!). Visit his personal site at: http://pmehta.org ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Fw: CNET NEWS.COM: Turbolinux sells Linux business, name
by Saswata Banerjee 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

----- Original Message ----- From: "CNET News.com Daily Dispatch" <Online#3.23465.40-iFG3ORiCkvmZ.1(a)newsletter.online.com> To: <saswata(a)bom4.vsnl.net.in> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 2:02 AM Subject: CNET NEWS.COM: Dell eyes "white box" market *** un necessary deleted **** > 4. Turbolinux sells Linux business, name > > Turbolinux has sold its Linux business to Japan's Software > Research Associates and in the process has completed its > transformation into a proprietary software company. Brisbane, > Calif.-based Turbolinux, which came to prominence by selling a > version of the Linux operating system in the Japanese market, > has transferred all of its Linux assets, including its name, to > SRA, one of Japan's oldest software firms, Turbolinux said > Tuesday. > August 20, 2002, 12:20 PM PT > http://clickthru.online.com/Click?q=aa-gBaeQXUq1wUD_LuWLXuP-IEXsdRR

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Samba file server.
by Rajesh Prakasan 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

Hi, I had setup a samba file server for my corporate. and it is functioning well. I need some help on setting up path to a share. ie, the executable programs like foxpro, norton utilites,I need to set the path while logging into the server. Is there any way to do this. Pls anyone advice me. thanks in advance Rajesh.

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BootCD Project, Mentors needed
by Gaurav Amit Gurpreet 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

hello luggerz We again appeal to the people on the lug who are can guide us on the BOOT CD PROJECT to plz come forward and take this up as mentors... we are new to the formal process of software development, we wud need guidance on how to go abt things like spec sheet etc etc... Gurpreet Amit Gaurav PS: TREVOR... plz send us a few links to start our for the topic

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] mountig fat32 on linux_suse_7.3 (fwd)
by lilo＠zeenext.com 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:34:47 +0530 (IST) Philip S Tellis wrote: Hi, The following cookbook style guide should help you to mount windows partitions on linux 1> first check out the list of partition you have such as hda1,hdb1, hdd3 etc .. whatever depending on whether yor IDE drive is configured to work as Primary/Secondary Master/Slave 2> There are two ways of mounting Windows Partitions 1> mounting them using the mount command as follows create a directory under /mnt such as windows mkdir -p /mnt/windows mount the windows partiton as follows (replacing hda1 with the proper device mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows 2> mount the partition at bootime by adding entries to /etc/fstab append the following line to /etc/fstab /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults 0 0 :) hope this helps Vinayak Hegde > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: 19 Aug 2002 13:17:49 UT > From: n-ricco(a)bossmail.de > Subject: mountig fat32 on linux_suse_7.3 > > > Hi, > > i have a little question..... > how can i mount a win98se partition on a linux_suse_7.3 ?? > for your information, i'm a beginner of linux. thats something new > for me :o) > i have a HDD 40GB IDE => 8GB for windows, 8GB for linux and the rest > is a file > partition. > i wil be very thanks full for your help...... > > ciao.......... > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers __________________________________________________________________________ http://dating.zeenext.com Log on to nextDATE. It's the next best thing to doing it.

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dir permession
by Sameer Shinde 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

Hi, Forget to ask you one, How can we give user specific permission for any directory for example, Let's say that we have 3 more users ( a, b, c ) other than root & we have two dir - dirA & dirB I want to allow the users a & b to use (rwx) the dir - dirA user b should use (rwx) both the dir - dirA & dir B user c should not be able to use any of the dir root can use ofcource all the directories. How can I do this? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Messenger IDs : MSN : s2sameer Yahoo! : s9sameer RediffBol : s2sameer Indiatimes : s2sameer Visit My web-site @ : www.geocities.com/s9sameer/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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PHP Issues
by kapil_karekar＠vsnl.net 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

hi guys, I am having an issue with a PHP site that i am building. I know this is a bit offtrack but i will really appreciate it if anyone could suggest a solution. I have a php script which is generating some dynamic content. The file also contains other php scripts. I want to store the content generated by the php script in a string rather than outputting it to the browser window. thanks in anticipation, cheers Kapil Karekar

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freshmeat editorial: linux in education
by Philip S Tellis 25 Aug '02

25 Aug '02

http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/533/ This article is a followup to one written two years ago by the guys from SEUL. A good read. -- Write clearly - don't sacrifice clarity for "efficiency". - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher)

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checking mails via proxy?
by akshaysalkar 25 Aug '02

25 Aug '02

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syslog via init?
by akshaysalkar 25 Aug '02

25 Aug '02

how to start syslog via init? i saw the man and it says it can be started via init. is it supposed to be in inittab file?? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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inetd doesnt log success?
by akshaysalkar 25 Aug '02

25 Aug '02

my inetd logs are acting funny. even when i have specified parameters for the service log on success = <whatever> it doesnt log the success in the logfile. why so?? has anyone come across this prob? and a soln? :) Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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inetd doesnt log success?
by akshaysalkar 24 Aug '02

24 Aug '02

my inetd logs are acting funny. even when i have specified parameters for the service log on success = <whatever> it doesnt log the success in the logfile. why so?? has anyone come across this prob? and a soln? :) Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] mountig fat32 on linux_suse_7.3 (fwd)
by Amol Hatwar 24 Aug '02

24 Aug '02

On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 funky wrote : >hi there, > > > to mount a windows partition in linux first >see the partition name that is hda1 etc. You will get >that by doing /sbin/fdisk hda(sda for scsi) then type >p which will show ur partition listing see which is ur >windows partition. *snip* It's OK if you use your name. Regards, Amol Hatwar.

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SPSS format help...
by kapil_karekar＠vsnl.net 24 Aug '02

24 Aug '02

Hi, Can anybody tell me how to create and use SPSS format files on linux. SPSS is a program used for data analysis. I want to make a .sps/.sav file from data which is presently stored in a mysql database. Any help will be greatly appreciated. cheers Kapil

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] mountig fat32 on linux_suse_7.3 (fwd)
by funky 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

hi there, to mount a windows partition in linux first see the partition name that is hda1 etc. You will get that by doing /sbin/fdisk hda(sda for scsi) then type p which will show ur partition listing see which is ur windows partition. after u get ur windows partition make a folder in linux say cdrive in / or /mnt and then type mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/cdrive it is assumed that windows is in hda1 and u shld be root to do this. hope this helps. regards, funky. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Project Resource Center-help
by Dinesh Shah 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

> From: "venkat mani" <linux(a)venkydude.com> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:19:01 +0530 > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Project Resource Center-help > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Hey All > Let me introduce my self first,I'm final yr student of Bharti > Vidyapeeth College of Engineering(B.V.C.O.E)-Navi Mumbai.I've been > following the mails abt the PRC quite regularly .I talked to my HOD > regarding this.He seemed quite enthusiastic about this. That's great to know that you and your HOD is interested in Linux and PRC. > Now to my question. > What can i/we(my college) do for the PRC ? To start with organise a seminar for introduction to Linux. This can be done in one or two days. LUG will provide you with lacturures / presenters. That way many students will be introduced to Linux. At the seminar, concept of the PRC can be introduced and students can join various projects. > Let me tell you that not a lot of people in my college know about > linux .We're just abt to start a linux group in our college. I believe > with more awareness a lot many students might be interested.I'd like to > have suggestions on the right way to go abt doing this > cheers > venky HTH -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System dinesh(a)indiamail.com http://dineshah.tripod.com Mobile: 98213-11906

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[Announce] ver 0.1.0 of HTML.Template.java released (fwd)
by Philip S Tellis 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

Version 0.1.0 of HTML.Template.java has just been released. It's still a development release, but is getting stable. A few bug fixes, and enhancements. Also added the Filter interface. Following is the ChangeLog ver 0.1.0 - supports Hashtable style constructor parameter - Now also accepts Booleans and Integers in constructor parameters, not just Strings - path parameter accepts a single String as well as an array of Strings - setParam also accepts int, boolean, Integer and Boolean - added Filter interface - fixed bug that prevented file handle from working (thanks to Marcos Ramirez) - fixed case bug with include filenames Philip -- A hacker does for love what others would not do for money.

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Hi there
by Prashant Arbat 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

You can also do the smae thing for mounting the partions of your windows to Linux. Just use the linuxconf. Log on as root start x window run the command linuxconf. On the bar you with see the Local volume configuration. use that this is very simle ulitity to mount the Fat or Fat32 windows artions PERMANENTLY. But you have make directories in linux for mounting the windows partion. If you want to temperey use of partions. follow the instructions of ricco that is the safest method to mounting partions

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[Announce][ACM] Desktop Applications with PHP
by Philip S Tellis 22 Aug '02

22 Aug '02

ACM Seminar Friday, August 23, 2002 - 6:30 p.m. Title: Desktop Applications with PHP Speaker: Nirav Mehta Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu Abstract: PHP is the most popular web scripting language. Can you imagine a web scripting language do desktop applications? Well, the PHP-GTK extension does just that. You could deploy the scripting power of PHP, combined with the rich Gimp Took Kit (GTK) to develop standalone applications that run.. well, almost anywhere, including Windows! This seminar will quickly go through some PHP basics and demonstrate a simple application. We will run through the code and understand the fundamentals of PHP-GTK. We will also see what could be the potential of such an approach and have some time for a Question/Answer session. About the Speaker: Nirav Mehta is the CEO of MagNet WebPublishing Pvt. Ltd. - a web application development company. Nirav likes technology, challenges, gadgets, good food, books and above all computers and internet. His work area is web technologies and team management!

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[OT] rules in packet filters
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 22 Aug '02

22 Aug '02

Hi, I am looking for typical rules, preferably lots of them, used in packet filters. I thought ISP's would be a good source of such info, so posting here with the hope that someone can help me out. Possible applications include rules for firewalls, differential quality of service, traffic billing etc. If someone can provide examples of these, please mail me off the list. Any format will do, as long as there is a format. I'll take the efforts to translate them into a form useful to me. I need this for testing a prototype "reconfigurable" packet classifier that I am working on. Sameer. -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ####[ Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]########################### Sub : File/ dir permissions LOST #019 Value Permission Directory Listing 0 No read, no write, no execute --- 1 No read, no write, execute --x 2 No read, write, no execute -w- 3 No read, write, execute -wx 4 Read, no write, no execute r-- 5 Read, no write, execute r-x 6 Read, write, no execute rw- 7 Read, write, execute rwx ####<bish(a)nde.vsnl.net.in>###################################

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I want Devnagary fonts for Linux
by Prashant Arbat 21 Aug '02

21 Aug '02

hi there, Well I am searching for Devnagary fonts for Linux. I get twa fonts 1) ji0 & 2)shusha from PCQEST feb 2002.But they are bulky to use Please give me Devanagary Or tell me where I can find it. Also i am searching for Telgu fonts for Linux. Please help me.

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mailman problems
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

Hi, The qrunner script in mailman started throwing up errors on our local server; copying an entry from the logs that repeats every minute when qrunner is invoked by cron. The mailing lists had been working fine until Aug 19 3:38pm, when this problem appeared in the logs. Since then, a lot of messages are queuing up on the various lists ... please help! Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): Traceback (innermost last): Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 283, in ? Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): kids = main(lock) Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 253, in main Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): keepqueued = dispose_message(mlist, msg, msgdata) Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 157, in dispose_message Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): mlist.ParseMailCommands(msg) Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 123, in ParseMailCommands Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): precedence = msg.get('precedence', '').lower() Aug 19 15:38:00 2002 qrunner(25894): AttributeError : 'string' object has no attribute 'lower' -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: How many marketing people does it take to change a lightbulb? A: I'll have to get back to you on that.

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Postgresql using C api
by Goldwyn Rodrigues 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

Hi Guys, code : accessing postgresql databases using C. Library used: libpq-fe.h I am trying to change the notice processor of the C program so that all errors and notices are caught in the notice.txt file. The SQL error is deliberate to generate an error. But the program just does'nt work, or probably the syntax usage is wrong. I have tried all permutations and combinations, except the right one ;) It is a major goof up of pointers. I have attached the program, please help. Thanx Goldwyn :o)

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mountig fat32 on linux_suse_7.3 (fwd)
by Philip S Tellis 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

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Redhat CD
by Linux Group 20 Aug '02

20 Aug '02

Hello Everybody, Can anyone tell me abt the Redhat CD . I think I have seen some site or Prashant Shah. Can anybody give me that ??? Thanks __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Intel 845 Display Problem
by Amol Hatwar 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 Desai Ashish wrote : >Friends, >Hi..! >I installed RH Linux 7.2 Recently on Intel 845 >M.Board. But I m facing the problem in Diaplay.... Did you try 7.3?? >So, can n e body help me out 4 this matter, to resolve >this prob. >Pla. guide me step by step....coz I need not require n How can someone give specific answers if you do not describe your problem properly. -ah

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Sound problems with Intel 810e and Aureal
by flameboy varun 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

I have an 810e with Aureal 8810 sound card onboard which although gets detected by sndconfig then gives me a message "The Aureal 8810 card is not supported". Any guesses on how sound can be played.? --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New Jobs

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Windows n Linux connectivity
by funky 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

hi gurpeet, If u want to use windows as ur gateway to the internet then either ur windows machine shld be running 2000 server which has the feature of internet sharing so u just have to put the win mac's ip as the gateway on ur linux machine (/etc/sysconfig/network) or if u are running win 98 or something u will have to put a proxy server in ur win mac, not all proxies would be working. try winproxy. hope this helps. regards, funky. hi can somebody guide me on this situation. have a netwrok which will be used for internet purposes like ones in the netcafe(setting the gateway n stuff). what i wanna know is that if the machine having the modem is running windows, can i run Linux on my machine and still get access to the net thru the server?? how to set the gateway in linux?? Gurpreet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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multiple mail servers over wan links
by Hiten Desai 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

Hi!, I would like to set up a linux based mail servers (multiple) server per remote location so it would not choke the wan link any clues in this direction which would be easiest setup for this ?? i.e. if a remote user(a)remote.comp.com sends email to user2(a)remote.comp.com is should not be routed through comp.com but the local remote server should route it. what would be the network structure domainwise how should I assign names ?? and dns setup ?? Please share your knowledge Thanks and Regards, Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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Fw: Certification Test LPI 101 at IBM dW Live!
by Saswata Banerjee 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

I remember someone asking about LPI Test a little while ago. Cant locate the original the original message. But some information on the same is provided below. IBM Conducts the test and they are having the test live at the event on Monday. Anyone who is interested in it can send an email. They will be able to tell you. Regards Saswata ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaushal Veluri" <kaveluri(a)in.ibm.com> To: "Saswata Banerjee" <saswata(a)saswatabanerjee.com> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Certification Test LPI 101 at IBM dW Live! > > Dear Saswata, > > My apologies for the same. In order to get more information on the LPI 101 > test, we would request you to visit http://www.lpi.org > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Kaushal Veluri, > Marketing - developerWorks, > IBM India Limited > ____________________________________________________ > Register for IBM developerWorks Live! - IBM's Technical Conference for > Developers in India. Visit http://www.ibm.com/in/events/dWLive for more > details. > > > > "Saswata Banerjee" > <saswata@saswataba To: Kaushal Veluri/India/IBM@IBMIN > nerjee.com> cc: > Subject: Re: Certification Test LPI 101 at IBM dW Live! > 08/14/2002 04:23 > PM > > > > > > Dear Kaushal, > > There is some mistake on this. Actually, I thought I was requesting for > information on the LPI test, not participating in it. > Please change your list to reflect that. > > Regards > Saswata > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kaushal Veluri" <kaveluri(a)in.ibm.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:58 PM > Subject: Certification Test LPI 101 at IBM dW Live! > > > X-RCPT-TO: <saswata(a)saswatabanerjee.com> > Status: U > > > Thank you for registering for IBM developerWorks Live! Conference . This is > to confirm your participation for the same. > > You have also opted to take the Certification Test 101 for Linux > Professional Institute. As the infrastructure at the seminar is limited and > we have a constraint, we need to implement the following procedure for you > to take the exam at the venue : > > ? Please visit http://certify.torolab.ibm.com/icetest.jsp and take the > free online pre-assessment test for Test 101. > ? You need to pass the test, with at least 75%, to be eligible for the > free voucher at the venue. > ? Send us the page with your test score either as an attachement on > email or as a hard copy to the address : Kaushal Veluri; IBM India Limited; > Golden Towers, Ground Floor; Airport Road; Bangalore - 560 017. > ? On receipt of your passing test score proof, we will send you the > examination registration form. > ? Fill in the form and send it back to us by email. > ? We will register and confirm your exam for the event date. > ? You need to get our email confirmation sheet to the venue and > approach the person at the Certification Center Room of the conference. > > Remember to complete this process as soon as possible as the seats for the > exam are limited.We can accomodate only the first 30 people. > > With Regards, > > > dW India Team! > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks > > > > > > > > > >

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Need help Installing Zope
by rohit jain 18 Aug '02

18 Aug '02

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(no subject)
by Amit Karnik 17 Aug '02

17 Aug '02

Hi I am using Cable Connection for internet I have configured my Lan Card on Red Hat Linux 7........and am also able to ping the server of my Cable operator..but am not able to surf the net or connect to internet..... How can i achieve that...pls help...... --------------------------------- Download Yahoo! Score Tracker for live cricket scores on your desktop

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Intel 845 Display Problem
by Desai Ashish 17 Aug '02

17 Aug '02

Friends, Hi..! I installed RH Linux 7.2 Recently on Intel 845 M.Board. But I m facing the problem in Diaplay.... So, can n e body help me out 4 this matter, to resolve this prob. Pla. guide me step by step....coz I need not require n e suppose to be answers...... Thanx.... Regards, [Ashish Desai] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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Need help Installing Zope
by rohit jain 16 Aug '02

16 Aug '02

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Simputer Workshop on 17th August 10am-1pm, KRESIT Auditorium
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 16 Aug '02

16 Aug '02

Hi all, We are pleased to announce the first part of the Simputer Workshop to be held at KRESIT auditorium on Saturday, 17th August 2002, 10am-1pm. The second part will be held sometime at the end of the month. The event is organized by ITA and the speaker is Prof. Swami Manohar (IISc/B'lore), acting Head of Picopeta Simputers and one of the architects of the Simputer. All are invited to attend. For more details, contact ita(a)it.iitb.ac.in You may visit the KReSIT webpage http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/ for instructions to reach the KReSIT Auditorium, on the IITB Campus. The details are as follows: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time : Saturday, 17th August 2002, 10am - 1.00pm Venue : KRESIT Auditorium. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- TOPIC: Simputer: Bridging the Great Digital Divide The Simputer is a home-brewed powerful, low-cost, palm-top that runs for hours on penlight batteries. Intended as India's home-grown answer to the "digital divide," it does long-distance medical diagnostics, basic literacy training, micro-banking, commodity trading, and other applications aimed at the poorest and remotest villagers. Its input and output systems are designed for illiterates: a multilingual voice synthesizer and lots of simple graphics. It uses Linux-based software to keep costs down. The Simputer meets its demands through a browser for the Information Markup Language (IML). IML has been created to provide a uniform experience to users and to allow rapid development of solutions on any platform. The Simputer, costing about Rs.9k, through its Smart Card feature allows personal information management at an individual level for an unlimited number of users. The impact of this feature coupled with the rich connectivity of the Simputer allows it to be used in diverse applications: in micro banking, large data collection, agricultural information and as a school laboratory and so on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Speaker: Swami Manohar (IISc/B'lore), acting Head of Picopeta Simputers is one of the architects of the Simputer. He helped define the Information Markup Language (IML)along with Prof. V.Vinay. He will spend a half day talking about the Simputer (software) architecture, tell us about how the Simputer is being deployed and discuss possible projects that can be initiated for further development. -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Q: Are we not men? A: We are Vaxen.

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Windows n Linux connectivity
by Gurpreet Singh 16 Aug '02

16 Aug '02

hi can somebody guide me on this situation. have a netwrok which will be used for internet purposes like ones in the netcafe(setting the gateway n stuff). what i wanna know is that if the machine having the modem is running windows, can i run Linux on my machine and still get access to the net thru the server?? how to set the gateway in linux?? Gurpreet

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Pls. help in PHP prog.
by Poonam P 16 Aug '02

16 Aug '02

Hello, Request some help in PHP programming.... How to code in the following situation.... Req.: Have an array of Name & surname & Client_code. Need to print a list without LISTING PEOPLE WITH SIMILAR "NAME & "SURNAME" IN THE ARRAY more than once. Eg. 1: name1 : surname1 : client1 2: name2 : surname2 : client2 3: name3 : surname3 : client3 4: name1 : surname1 : client4 5: name5 : surname5 : client5 6: name2 : surname3 : client6 In the above example, record 1 & 4 are same guys. And I have to list them only once. What I have done so far is.... for ($i = 0; $i < 6; $i++) { printf ($name[$i] . $surname[$i] . " manages " . $client[$i] \n"); } // end $i But this prints same people multiple times... Pls help. Pls do not suggest changing variables etc etc... Thx Poonam. ________________________________________________________________________ Want to sell your car? advertise on Yahoo Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! visit http://in.autos.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ColdFusion EXpress Installation Help needed
by Amol Hatwar 16 Aug '02

16 Aug '02

Nilesh, Looks like you are into Web-apps. Take a word of caution here ... ColdFusion at its best is just cold fusion. Besides its not Free Software. I recommend you give PHP a serious thought. You'll like the ease-of-use and flexibility. Regards, Amol. __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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CCP time out !!
by akshaysalkar 16 Aug '02

16 Aug '02

hey does anyone know what this means. CCP : timeout sending Config_requests. i got this error in my log files after i was connected to my isp via dial-up. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Windows n Linux connectivity
by akshaysalkar 16 Aug '02

16 Aug '02

make the question a bit clearer. i guess the windows is acting as a server since it has a modem attached rite? is the linux distro gonna run on the same machine or another? the gateway is set using linuxconf or the /etc/sysconfig/network file. linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: hi can somebody guide me on this situation. have a netwrok which will be used for internet purposes like ones in the netcafe(setting the gateway n stuff). what i wanna know is that if the machine having the modem is running windows, can i run Linux on my machine and still get access to the net thru the server?? how to set the gateway in linux?? Gurpreet _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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mailing list reply
by pramod menon 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

--- linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: > Send Linuxers mailing list submissions to > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > You can reach the person managing the list at > linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Linuxers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Re: Scalable Web Caching Solutions (Trevor > Warren) > 2. Re: getting errors while starting zope (Philip > S Tellis) > 3. Re: what installs pam_auth (Philip S Tellis) > 4. [OT] They stole all our Servers ...... (Tushar > Mavani) > 5. Re: Pls. help in PHP prog. : Shell commands > (=?iso-8859-1?q?Poonam=20P?=) > 6. Re: KYLIX (Saswata Banerjee & Associates) > 7. CCP time out !! (akshaysalkar) > 8. Re: Linux Boot Problems (Sameer Shinde) > 9. Test mail (Nagarjuna G.) > 10. Tiranga... Happy Independence DAy!! (Nilesh > Singit) > 11. Test Mail (Nagarjuna G.) > 12. Re: Pls. help in PHP prog. : Shell commands > (Sachin) > 13. Windows n Linux connectivity (Gurpreet Singh) > 14. BootCD Project, Mentors needed (Gaurav Amit > Gurpreet) > 15. Re: BootCD Project, Mentors needed (Shankar > Ramchandran) > 16. Re: BootCD Project, Mentors needed > (Chandrashekhar Bhosle) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 23:16:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Scalable Web Caching > Solutions > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > > --- Devdas Bhagat <dodobh(a)nettaxi.com> wrote: > > +++ Trevor Warren [12/08/02 11:02 -0700]: > > <snip> > > > > Which ISP, BTW? > [snip] > Itz a small cable isp providing Internet access to > the pple of Bandra. > > Thx for all the help devdas. Highly appreciated. > > Trevor Warren > > > > > > Devdas Bhagat > > -- > > "Someone's been mean to you! Tell me who it is, > so > > I can punch him tastefully." > > -- Ralph Bakshi's Mighty Mouse > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > > > > ===== > ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) > /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ > | \) / mailto: trevor(a)zenith-india.com \ (/ | > |_|_ \ Project Manager, Linux/Unix. ZCL / _|_| > \___________________________________/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:56:31 +0530 (IST) > From: Philip S Tellis <philip(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] getting errors while > starting zope > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, rohit jain wrote: > > > File /usr/zope/z2.py, line 690, in ? > > IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: > '/usr/zope/var/Z2.pid' > > you have insufficient permissions to write to > Z2.pid, make sure that the > user that you are running as is the same as the user > who owns the > directory and Z2.pid. > > -- > User hostile. > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:01:07 +0530 (IST) > From: Philip S Tellis <philip(a)konark.ncst.ernet.in> > To: MLUG <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] what installs pam_auth > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, akshaysalkar wrote: > > > does anyone know what package installs the > pam_auth file. > > > > my pam_auth file got installed in /usr/local/bin > > but i dont know what did it. (untill i realized it > was there) > > > > distro i use is redhat > > > if it got installed in /usr/local, then it was most > likely installed > from source. ie, you compiled it. > > pam_auth is most likely installed by the pam > package. > > Philip > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 02:20:32 -0700 (PDT) > From: Tushar Mavani <alltechstuff(a)yahoo.com> > To: ILUG Bombay <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] They stole all our Servers > ...... > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > --0-1425735202-1029230432=:58573 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > hi luggers, > > i found this link on one of the other LUG mailing > lists. > > http://www.consultingtimes.com/media/heist60.mpeg > > nice way to market linux ........ > > bye, > > tushar > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New > Jobs > --0-1425735202-1029230432=:58573 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > > hi luggers, > i found this link on one of the other LUG mailing > lists. > <A > href="http://www.consultingtimes.com/media/heist60.mpeg" > target=_blank>http://www.consultingtimes.com/media/heist60.mpeg</A> > nice way to market linux ........ > bye, > tushar <hr size=1>Do You > Yahoo!? > === message truncated === ===== Pramod P Menon A304, Asmita regency 1, Nayanagar, Mira road(E), Thane 401107 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Test mail
by Nagarjuna G. 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

Test mail -List admin

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Test Mail
by Nagarjuna G. 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

Test mail Please ignore list admin.

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Tiranga... Happy Independence DAy!!
by Nilesh Singit 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

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Linux Boot Problems
by Steven Rebello 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

Does anyone know of any site where a complete list of Linux boot up problems( like "kernel panic" and "LI" lilo problem) are listed along with their solutions? I searched the net but havent found any site covering all cases. Thanks for any reply steven Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents "Valufon", Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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[OT] They stole all our Servers ......
by Tushar Mavani 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

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what installs pam_auth
by akshaysalkar 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

does anyone know what package installs the pam_auth file. my pam_auth file got installed in /usr/local/bin but i dont know what did it. (untill i realized it was there) distro i use is redhat Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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getting errors while starting zope
by rohit jain 15 Aug '02

15 Aug '02

hi this is my first post to lug I have just downloaded and installed zope from www.zope.org and as documented on the site i have installed zope but while starting zope with ./start command i get error message ------ 2002-08-10T07:32:14 INFO(0) ZODB Opening database for mounting: '142007248_1028962614.016413' ------ 2002-08-10T07:32:14 INFO(0) ZODB Mounted database '142007248_1028962614.016413' at /temp_folder ------ 2002-08-10T07:32:15 INFO(0) ZServer HTTP server started at Sat Aug 10 13:02:15 2002 Hostname: rohit.saistar.com Port: 8080 ------ 2002-08-10T07:32:15 INFO(0) ZServer FTP server started at Sat Aug 10 13:02:15 2002 Hostname: rohit.saistar.com Port: 8021 ------ 2002-08-10T07:32:15 INFO(0) ZServer PCGI Server started at Sat Aug 10 13:02:15 2002 Unix socket: /usr/zope/var/pcgi.soc ------ 2002-08-10T07:32:15 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/zope/z2.py, line 690, in ? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/zope/var/Z2.pid' please help me solving this problem thanking all in advance Rohit Jain Sai Star Internet Pvt Ltd. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Scalable Web Caching Solutions
by Trevor Warren 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Dear Luggers.....;) i have been using Squid for a looooooooong time now..;) and alwayz thought it was the answer to all my caching need. Especially as far as Web Caching Solutions/TRansparent proxying has ben concerned for my numerous deployments. Off late....i have been settin up and running a small isp setup in bombay and have been faced with a small perplexing issue. I have about 100 clients as of now....nd growing day-by-day...... Initially, when the customers were few, the load was miniscule and Squid on the Gateway would doa lovely job. Of late....Squid has been less of a boon and more of a curse to my setup. the memory requirements/cpu hoggin is taking my system down with cpu usage averagin @ 90%......nd due to tremendous requests being bombared @ it, the queue just dramatically increases response times to the clients. That apart....my Transparent Web Caching solution also implements ad-zapping......which i hav made spawd 15 sub threads for url re-directing under squid. Due to the huge boggin down of my server...i had to shut down caching. Is there ny solution....????. Where hav i erred.?????. Should i setup caching on a box different to the billing server..???? Ur comments/suggestions r welcome. Trevor Warren ===== ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevor(a)zenith-india.com \ (/ | |_|_ \ Project Manager, Linux/Unix. ZCL / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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Scalable Web Caching Solutions
by Trevor Warren 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Dear Luggers.....;) i have been using Squid for a looooooooong time now..;) and alwayz thought it was the answer to all my caching need. Especially as far as Web Caching Solutions/TRansparent proxying has ben concerned for my numerous deployments. Off late....i have been settin up and running a small isp setup in bombay and have been faced with a small perplexing issue. I have about 100 clients as of now....nd growing day-by-day...... Initially, when the customers were few, the load was miniscule and Squid on the Gateway would doa lovely job. Of late....Squid has been less of a boon and more of a curse to my setup. the memory requirements/cpu hoggin is taking my system down with cpu usage averagin @ 90%......nd due to tremendous requests being bombared @ it, the queue just dramatically increases response times to the clients. That apart....my Transparent Web Caching solution also implements ad-zapping......which i hav made spawd 15 sub threads for url re-directing under squid. Due to the huge boggin down of my server...i had to shut down caching. Is there ny solution....????. Where hav i erred.?????. Should i setup caching on a box different to the billing server..???? Ur comments/suggestions r welcome. Trevor Warren ===== ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevor(a)zenith-india.com \ (/ | |_|_ \ Project Manager, Linux/Unix. ZCL / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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DeveloperIQ: Compile your kernel, get new GNU/Linux software....
by Frederick Noronha 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Some updates from the August 2002 issue of DeveloperIQ www.developeriq.com * LINUXmag section has a special article on how to compile your own Linux kernel, by Philip de Groot.Get better hardware support by compiling your kernel... or move to a more faster and stable kernel. * On the CD: Corel Photo-Paint 9 for Linux. * Editorial: Microsoft is learning a few tricks from the Open Source space (by Ramdas S ramdas(a)developeriq.com) "You would not get the source code of any Microsoft products at least as of now! The strategy is to offer free products in space where the competition from Open Source is strong to match in offerings. The new ASP.Net Web Matrix, which supports ASP programming, is now freely available.And Microsoft is backing it up with support, unlike the Open Source Community." (Whatever this is supposed to mean!!!FN) * Ramdas says: "At the point of writing, we were trying to figure whether we could connect it to MySQL on Windows instead of the more expensive MS SQL server..." (So, the freedom of affordability is important too ;-) * Special DeveloperIQ Linux applications collection CDs: RedHat 7.2, 2 CDs Rs 299 RedHat 7.3, 5 CDs Rs 699 Caldera OpenLinux - Workstation 3.1.1, 2 CDs Rs 199 Caldera OpenLinux - Server 3.1.1., 2 CDs Rs 199 Mandrake 8.2, 3 CDs Rs 499 with support Rs 999 Debian 2.2, 3 CDs Rs 499 or with support Rs 999 (support for 30 days or 30 e-mails, whichever earlier) * LINUX MAG INDIA-on-CD: 18 Cs in a year. Rs 1499. Get a whole lot of Linux apps and the latest updates. Log on to www.linuxmagindia.com for full details. Five CD starter kit contains RedHat 7.2, Openoffice 1.0, Galeon 1.2.1, KDE 3.0, Mozilla Internet suite 1.0rc2, Netscape 6.2.1, Acrobat reader 4.05, Gimp 1.2.3, Ximian Gnome 1.4, Kmail 1.0.29.2, gqmpeg 0.12.0, Etherape 0.8.2, Kyahoo 0.7, Image 0.1.9, Qcad 1.4.7, Blender 2.12, Cross Artist 1.1, sfront 0.7 and more Development tools: j2re1.4.0, j2sdk1.4.0, j2sdk1.4.0Forte, Redhat 7.2 manuals: installation guide, getting started guide, customization guide, reference guide, release notes, MySQL 3.23 a Redhat RPM, server (i386), Behcnmark/test suites, client program, libraries and header file for development, client shared libraries, binary package, Glade, Anjuta 0.1.7, clip 0.93, DDD 3.3.1, DejaGNU 1.4.2, gIDE 0.3.5, GNU Debugger 5.0, gnome debut 0.1.5, jDBA 0.7, KDE SDK 2.2.1, Open DAP 2.0.19, pyut 1.0, Libtool 1.4.2 and more ENTERTAINMENT: Half-life Opposing Force Server, Trophy 1.0.1, Tux Racer 0.61, Mojoworld Transporter 1.02, Search and Resume Game, Q3Text (Linux)1.07, Armagetron, abuse-SDL0.6.0, Vega Strike 0.2.0-14, 4st Attack Version, SDL_Paradroid, EasySok Version: 0.3.0., FreeDroid 0.7.0, Decopter Version 0.2.3, Penguin Command Version, gf passthru Version; 0.0.1-alpha, Iter Vehemens Ad Necem Version 0.311, Operation Blacksun 2 Version. Send your commends and feedback to ramdas(a)developeriq.com This note is circulated by: -- Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa * India 832.409490 / 409783 BYTESFORALL www.bytesforall.org * GNU-LINUX http://linuxinindia.pitas.com Email fred(a)bytesforall.org * Mobile +9822 122436 (Goa) * Saligao Goa India Writing with a difference... on what makes *the* difference

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The groupware is finally up
by himanshu＠linuxfreemail.com 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

Hi all, Finally, although a bit late, the groupware is up and running. Check it out at http://www.thefreespeech.org/collaborate/groupware. Since phpGroupware was way too large to fit (and without ssh access, it becomes all the more difficult), I've used PHProjekt (www.phprojekt.org), which according to me, is functionally competent, while taking up very little space in comparison. Initially, you may use the login/password of test/test (just to get a hang of it). Then we could either write a program that automatically creates logins, or let someone administer the whole process. Also, I've created two mailing lists, announce(a)thefreespeech.org and linuxers(a)thefreespeech.org. I guess we are now all set to implement the PRC. Get going guys --- Regards, www.thefreespeech.org Himanshu (Initiate - Collaborate - Contribute) Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!

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Mail Server will be down on 13th
by Nagarjuna G. 13 Aug '02

13 Aug '02

The mail server running the mailman for our mailing list will be down for few hours on 13th during the day. We are upgrading the machine and the server will be back to work by 6pm, if everything goes as expected. BTW, the webserver is also the same machine, so that also will be down. Nagarjuna

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LinuxInIndia #004 (TUG 2002 comes to India)
by Frederick Noronha 12 Aug '02

12 Aug '02

GNU _ _____ _____ http://linuxinindia.pitas.com | | (_) |_ _| |_ _| | |_ | | _ _ __ _ ___ __ | | _ __ | | _ __ __| (_) ___ | | | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / | | | '_ \ | | | '_ \ / _` | |/ _ \ | |____| | | | | |_| |> < _| |_| | | |_| |_| | | | (_| | | (_) | |______|_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\_____|_| |_|_____|_| |_|\__,_|_|\__,_| CopyLeft2002 GNU/GPL v2 OR LATER * ISSUE004 * AUGUST 11, 2002 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Co-edited by Frederick Noronha and Parag Mehta <pm at linuxindia dot org> * +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In this issue o TUG 2002 comes to India o Linking projects to students o ELX Linux in the news o FSF-India mailing list change o Experiences from the classroom o Links you could use o Solaris mailing list o Scripts for a terminal server o Kaii Linux PDA +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ TUG 2002 COMES TO INDIA: Registration is now open for the TUG 2002, the annual conference of TeX Users Group scheduled for September 1-7 at Technopark, Trivandrum, India. This is the first time that TUG conference is being held outside Europe and US. The TUG conference is one of the worlds leading TeX users/developers conferences aimed at the experienced developers and at the the same time novice users as well. One day tutorial for novice users which is followed by a two-day tutorial on advanced topics, take one to the four day conference of presentations and discussions by developers in the TeX world. The conference language is English. Organized by the Indian TeX Users Group (TUGIndia) in association with international TeX Users Group, the TUG 2002 will bring together for the 23rd time. TeX enthusiasts from around the world for talks about TeX, XML, metapost, multilingual typesetting, non-Latin and Indic scripts, graphics and much more. You can also join your fellow developers in birds-of-a-feather sessions, sample the local beer at our social event. The Organizing Committee Chair is Satish Babu <sb(a)inapp.com>, Internet Applications Technologies, Trivandrum, India and Program Committee Chair is Sebastian Rahtz, Computing Services, Oxford University <sebastian.rahtz(a)computing-services.oxford.ac.uk>, Oxford University, UK. The conference takes place at the Park Center, Technopark, Trivandrum and is co-sponsored by IT Mission Group, Government of Kerala. On Sunday, September 1 through Tuesday, September 3 there are four tutorial to chose from. The conference itself will open on Wednesday, September 4 with a keynote, "TeX, XML and the State of the Art" by Hans Hagen, Pragma Advanced Document Engineering, Netherlands. For all the details and online registration have a look at our web page: http://www.tug.org.in/tug2002/ Contacts: Organising Committee TUG 2002 <tug2002(a)tug.org.in> Thanks to Radhakrishnan <cvr(a)river-valley.org> for these details. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LINKING PROJECTS TO STUDENTS: An attempt to offer students interesting GNU/Linux projects. Check the following sites. --> http://www.ilug-bom.org.in/wiki/ --> http://www.ilug-bom.org.in/Volunteer/ Suggests Trevor Warren: "Lets get started with volunteers/mentors listing their names as project guides....And start using Wiki to create a list of Projects for Students to come and visit. I would humbly request all to get started on the same ASAP.......which would b in accordance to the spirit with which all of us are doing our best to get the student community involved with Free Software." Contact for Trevor Warren: trevor(a)zenith-india.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ELX LINUX IN THE NEWS: Sunil Rajanala (Economic Times) reports from Hyderabad that Everyone's Linux (ELX) in association with Maxil Technology Solutions, US, is gearing up to launch a Linux-based operating system, ELX Power desktop version across North America, Europe, Latin America and Australia anytime now. ELX is India's first commercial Linux-based Operating System, which claims to match Windows by every feature and provides the additional advantages of Linux's robustness and security. The Linux operating system has been developed by Hyderabad-based Everyone's Linux, formerly 3T solutions. Economic Times quoted Maxil Technology's MIS director, Raj Kosaraju saying the soft launch of ELX Power Desktop Version 1.0 took place during late June this year across North America including Canada. ELX also plans to launch the product in India soon for just Rs 900 for Indian customers. Kosaraju said during the test phase, the pre-release version of ELX had 89,000 free downloads between April and June 2002, with most of the downloads from educational institutions, colleges, and universities. See http://www.elxlinux.com http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=15402221 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FSF-INDIA LIST CHANGE: Recently a change has taken place in the names of the FSF lists. fsf-friends is the list to which you need to send the mails (to take part in discussion on Free Software in India). fsf-india is now the announcement list of fsf-india, and fsf-friends is the list where subscribers can post their emails. This tip from Nagarjuna <nagarjun(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ EXPERIENCES FROM THE CLASSROOM: Leo Fernandes <leo(a)indialink.org> narrates his recent experience with the Linux-in-schools project in Delhi: "Well, Monday was my first day in school! Was wonderful to be in the company of peers in Class 4. I learnt some logo commands. It's a great programming language! I think I will continue my education.... "So folks, we have passed through the first two days of having a Linux server in a school computer lab in Delhi for classes 4 to 8. We have RH 7.3 running on a Pentium 4 server with 640Mb ram and 20 diskless workstations booting off the server into X. LTSP is cool "Software setup was painless. However identifying hardware problems took 90% of time and energy. Defective bootroms, network cable probs, mouse probs etc..etc... We were also hit with DCOPServer errors. Couldn't figure out what went wrong. We worked around that by avoiding multiple logon with the same id. However running X with KDE 3.0.0 from 20 diskless stations made everything crawl -- that's when we upgraded to 640Mb ram. We are looking at options to improve speed. "Now the real test begins -- how the students and teachers take to it. "There's a lot of hand-holding to be done and numerous mundane tasks to take care of - like web pages with helpful documentation subitable for teachers, for students at higher classes etc. Some guide to basic operations is very much needed. "The whole setup was done as part of the hardware and network system upgrade that the school was undertaking. So we need to ensure that teachers can continue with their current work and projects within the framework of the present curriculum. They are open to new ideas too. "We have Openoffice for wordprocessing, spreadsheet and presentations. LOGO programming, and Bywater BASIC. Hopefully teachers and students will be able to cope with this new environment. "These initial days are crucial. Any help and suggestions to enhance the acceptability to this new environment is always welcome. "I wish to express my thanks to Dhruv, Prateek and Pai for their help and support. Dhruv and Prateek have been particulary helpful in taking time off to visit the site and make their contributions. More on this as we progress. Leo" We're all awaiting your updates, Leo. Positive or otherwise. Let's learn from our own and each other's experiences. (Leo is a great guy, and work by people like him in the 'nineties helped me to get access to e-mail when it was still not commercially available in the market...-FN) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LINKS YOU COULD USE: These are some useful contacts one came across during a seminar on deploying GNU/Linux in government, held in Goa many months ago. Please check if the contacts still work though... Shrikant Navelkar, Sales Consultant, Red Hat India navelkar(a)redhat.com Mukul Mathur, ASEAN/SA Linux Manager, IBM mmathur(a)in.ibm.com Ajay M Kapoor, Channels Head, India, Red Hat India ajayk(a)redhat.com Sachin Dabir, Head-Enterprise Sales, Red Hat India sachin(a)redhat.com Info about Red Hat in India. http://in.redhat.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SOLARIS MAILING LIST: Check out this list. Not exclusively GNU/Linux, but focuses on IT and development issues. Solaris--independant forum for IT & development issues. Un/sub info: solaris-request(a)mail.sarai.net with the word "help" in the subject line or in the body of the message. URL: http://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/solaris/ archive: http://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/solaris/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SCRIPTS TO SET UP A TERMINAL SERVER: Heard about GLUE, the education-related version of GNU/Linux? Ajith <ajith(a)nsc.ernet.in> writes in to say: "There are several people (in Calicut/Kozhikode) now who can setup LTSP. The job of setting up LTS has been made a bit easier now. The new version of GLUE contains a script that will make the computer a Terminal Server. If the clients have video cards that are auto detected by XFree86 version 4, you don't need to do any configuration. It will make boot floppies for the terminals and, if you are lucky, the terminal comes up with the GUI. Proper hosts, dhcpd.conf and lts.conf files are made by the script. NTOP is installed to monitor the health of the network. It also installs the ICE Window manager and installs a menu with all the software installed from the CD and other required stuff. IceWM is light-weight, fast and flexible. Starts much much faster than KDE or GNOME. Installation of other packages on the CD also done by the script. If you copy the CD to the Web Server Document root area (no need to run the web server) all the science applets also can be accessed from the Window Manager Menu. All tested on a RedHat 7.3 installation. If anyone interested in trying it out, let me know." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ KAII LINUX PDA: A sneak preview of Infomart's "Kaii" Linux PDA Rick Lehrbaum (Updated March 18, 2002) http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8619741565.html ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ * FOOTNOTE: Frederick Noronha <fred at bytesforall dot org> is a Goa-based freelance journalist, who writes on IT-for-development and GNU/Linux themes regularly, and is cofounder of BytesForAll <www.bytesforall.org>. In the past year, he worked on a print media fellowship to study India's contribution to GNU/Linux, from www.sarai.net (Sarai-New Delhi) Parag Mehta <pm at linuxindia dot org> is webmaster for Linux India, listadmin for Ilug-bom, Country Manager of India for Linux Counters (do get counted as a GNU/Linux user!). Visit his personal site at: http://pmehta.org ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] PRC ..good going --
by Q u a s i 11 Aug '02

11 Aug '02

At 03:16 PM 8/1/02 +0000, Gurpreet Singh wrote: >have got a project from my teachers.. it is A Linux Cluster to implement >RSA cryptography >any suggestion fellows... is that a PRC project now?

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Red Hat Certification program ( Commercial )
by Shankar I. 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

Dear Members of Linux User Group, This is an information which Red Hat would like to share with all LUG members. Red Hat has set up a Corporate Training center in Pune to address the needs of RHCE certification for corporate executives. The Red Hat Corporate Training Centre is situated on 1st floor, Clover Center, D wing, Moledina road Pune. Phone : 6119154 / 6133041 The first batch is commencing on the 19th of August 2002. The details on the course contents are as follows : RH300 - RHCE Rapid Track Training and Certification Course The Red Hat Certified Engineer course is designed for UNIX-and Linux-experienced users, networking specialists, and system administrators. This 5-day course provides intensive hands-on training on Red Hat Linux, and includes the RHCE Certification Lab Exam. The course features: 4 days intensive fast-track training on Red Hat Linux Hands-on labs, exercises, RHCE Exam on day 5 Student materials, study aids, handouts Personal Edition Red Hat 7.3 Goal: A system administrator who has been trained and then tested by means of the RHCE Exam, a realistic performance-based lab exam that tests the delegate's actual ability to: install and configure Red Hat Linux understand limitations of hardware configure basic networking and file systems configure the X Window System configure basic security set up common network (IP) services carry out basic diagnostics and troubleshooting, perform essential Red Hat Linux system administration. Course Contents : Unit 1: Hardware and Installation (x86 Architecture) Hardware Compatibility CPU and SMP Support New Hardware Detection Plug and Play Serial and Parallel Ports Block and Other Devices Disk Addressing and Partitioning Peripheral Devices and their Configuration The Boot Process The Red Hat Installer Performing and Validating the Installations Unit 2: Configuration and Administration Reconfiguring Installed Options Networking, Sound and User Authorization configuration File Systems and /etc/fstab RPM Package Manager Printing Virtual Consoles Administering User Accounts and Groups cron and anacron locate and tmpwatch System Logging GUI Administration Tools The Update Agent Documentation and Help Sources Unit 3: Alternate Installation Methods Multiboot Systems The LILO Boot Prompt Configuring a Red Hat Linux Network Installation Server Using kickstart to Automate Installation Unit 4: Kernel Services and Configuration The /proc filesystem /proc/sys configuration with sysctl The Linux Quota System Understanding /etc/inittab Managing System V Initialization Scripts Software RAID Configuration Configuring, Compiling and Installing the Linux Kernel The LILO Map Installer Unit 5: Standard Networking Services TCP/IP Fundamentals BIND Email Delivery and Protocols FTP HTTP/Apache NFS Server Samba DHCP Squid Proxy Server Unit 6: X Window System The X Server X Clients/Window Managers The X Font Server Display Managers XFree86 Startup The Gnome and KDE Environments Remote Display of X Applications X Security Unit 7: User and Host Security Security Concepts Pluggable Authentication Modules (PAM) Network Information Service Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP) The xinetd Super-Server and tcp_wrappers ssh: secure shell, telnet and remote copy Unit 8: Routers, Firewalls, Clusters and Troubleshooting Static and Dynamic Routes Linux as a Router and Firewall ipchains and Firewall Rules IP Masquerading Troubleshooting Rescue Environment Utilities Audience: UNIX or Linux system administrators who have significant real-world experience with UNIX or Linux systems administration and some experience setting up key networking services such as HTTP, DNS, NIS, DHCP, and who want a fast-track course to prepare for the RHCE Exam. Prerequisites : RH033, RH133, RH253 or equivalent experience with UNIX; LAN/WAN fundamentals Internet working with TCP/IP, knowledge or experience setting up NFS, HTTP, DNS, FTP, NIS, DHCP, and other networking services, and security. The prerequisites are important! Participants arriving without a large portion of these prerequisites will make less than optimal progress in the training and will be unlikely to pass the certification exam. Please do not sign up for RH300 unless you are experienced with systems administration or are a power user in UNIX / Linux environments. If you need training on the above prerequisites, please see the other Red Hat courses available. Please click here for information about how you can prepare yourself for the RHCE Lab Exam http://www.in.redhat.com/training/rhce/rh302_desc.php3 Fees : The Inagural batch fee is Rs.15000/- inclusive of exam fees ( exam fees is Rs.6000). 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Re: [ILUG-BOM] BootCD project Taken
by himanshu＠linuxfreemail.com 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

On Thu, 2002-08-08 at 20:05, Gaurav Amit Gurpreet wrote: > hello luggerz > this is to announce that we are taking up the BootCD project. > > > guyz plz take the next step asap... > I have the following suggestions for all project listings in general: 1. Please give a small explaination as to what the project is all about. This helps the uninitiated. For example, the BootCD project is: ... 2. Please specify any particulars: for example, the due date for the completed project is: ... 2. As students (I suppose, you signed in as students), you won't be able to create projects. So please use the forum (within the groupware, if you are registered, or the other one, if you have not registered) to list your project. I suppose this will help in the following ways: 1. the luggerz will understand exactly what the project is all about 2. luggerz can decide whether they have the know-how to guide the project and volunteer as mentors. 3. maintain some basic online listing for projects/students/mentors. These are my personal views. I wud welcome suggestions / changes / modifications to this procedure. --- Regards, | www.thefreespeech.org | ----------------------------------------- Himanshu | Initiate - Collaborate - Contribute | Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours! Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!

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BootCD project Taken
by Gaurav Amit Gurpreet 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

hello luggerz this is to announce that we are taking up the BootCD project. i know this announcement is being repeated but there were some probs within the group which have now been sorted out. The people who are doing this are:- 1. Gaurav Shah 2. Amit Rai 3. Gurpreet Singh now, the next step, who of u brilliant ppl out there is act as the mentor for this project. Since we are students and havent made any formal projects so we wud need to know the methodology in detail (the spec sheet and all the formal stuff i mean). we wud also need quite some technical guidance too. we are not in mumbai itself , but we plan to do things in our college and we can keep coming to mumbai once in a while. guyz plz take the next step asap... Gaurav, amit n Gurpreet __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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JOBWATCH: Linux jobs
by Frederick Noronha 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

TechnoInfosys www.technoinfosys.com A company focussed on offering Linux-based solutions is looking for people. Location: Navi Mumbai Positions and requirements: 1. Linux gury: A visionary for 'Linux in Indian enterprises'. 2. Senior Developer: The Fast Coder, strong understanding of Perl, cgi, php, Mysql on Linux. Minimum requirement: technical graduate with 4 years experience 3. Sr Manager: Marketing and Salces Minimum requirement: Technical graduate with 4 years experience in similar position (MBA will be added advantage) 4. Business development executives: Technomarketing professionals with fair understanding of Linux Send resumes to: careers(a)technoinfosys.com

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system hangs
by Rahul Saxena 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

hi there everyone, i just got a 20GB disk and installed redhat 7.2 with ext3 fs on one of the extended partitions. but this system is giving me major problems because it HANGS for unknown reasons. basically disk drive activity stops eg 1. during sndconfig 2. during moving thorugh desktop what i mean is that it happens on random have anyone seen such a problem b4 ? is this a problem with ext3 ????? thanks a lot! for reading -rahul -- GREAT MOMENTS IN HISTORY (#7): November 23, 1915 Pancake make-up is invented; most people continue to prefer syrup.

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routing.
by Rajesh Prakasan 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

Hi, How can I configure two LAN cards in Linux. And I want to configure routing between this cards. ie , How will I configure linux as a router, as I need to configure this machine as a proxy server. Pls help me thanks, Rajesh

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ssh without passwords?
by Satya 09 Aug '02

09 Aug '02

I am logged in to host A. I want to ssh to host B without giving a password. I run ssh-keygen on A. I copy-paste the public key file to B. I attempt ssh from A to B. B asks for password. What am I doing wrong? (Leave aside that not using ssh-agent and passphrases is insecure.) -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> Reactor error -- core dumped.

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[OT] [ANNOUNCE] [ACM] What makes computer games playable?
by Philip S Tellis 08 Aug '02

08 Aug '02

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:09:52 +0000 To: ACMBOMBAY-GENERAL(a)ACM.ORG Hello, I would like to remind you of the brainstorming-cum-debate session on the topic titled: "What makes computer games playable?" coming on Friday August 9, 2002 at 6:30pm at NCST, Gulmohar Cross Road 9, Juhu, Mumbai 400049. This event would be held as a part of the ACM meeting, which is held once every month. Although, the topic is quite general, it is recommended that you read *something* regarding this topic. A good exemplary reference material is: http://www.vancouver.wsu.edu/fac/peabody/game-book/Coverpage.html (This reference is a bit dated but nevertheless may still be useful) Hopefully, you'll read more about this topic -- and not read ONLY the reference cited above :) -- for the discussion/debate to be fruitful. Hoping to see you here! regards - JJH ps - If you are interested in giving a seminar for ACM please contact me. -- ---------------------------------------- 57. It is easier to change the specification to fit the program than vice versa. courtesy: Epigrams in Programming, Alan J Perlis ============================================================================== Jayprasad J. Hegde Staff Scientist, KBCS, NCST. | web: http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~jjhegde/ Gulmohar Cross Road 9, Juhu, Mumbai 400049, India. | tel: +91-22-6201606(x373) ==============================================================================

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[offtopic] Updated Books for Sale
by akshaysalkar 08 Aug '02

08 Aug '02

Does any 1 want Computer/Linux Books at a discounted rate (ie. 20%-25% approx. off the normal price) Books in good condition. Some books are brand new. (Costs after Discount) 1) Teach yourself HTML4 in 24 hours - Oliver/Holshwag Rs. 80 - Techmedia 2) Mastering Foxpro 2.5 Special Edition - Siegel - Rs. 225 - BPB 3) ObjectOriented Software Engineering - Haladay - Rs. 150 4) Teach yourself UML in 24 hours - Schmuler - Rs. 113 5) Java Software Solutions - Lewis - Rs. 260 6) Understanding Pointers in C - Kanetkar - Rs. 113 7) Write TSR's now - Ras - Rs. 75 8) Problems in General Physics - Irodov - Rs. 113 9) Programming Perl 3/e - Wall - Rs. 450 10) Professional Linux Programming - Mathews - Rs. 410 11) Using Linux - Gunter - Rs. 270 anybody wanting any of the above books plz. contact me at email : akshaysalkar(a)indiatimes.com or telephone on 2052404. (plz. leave msg./name/telephone if i am not there) akshay. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Some Changes in groupware
by Himanshu Shukla 08 Aug '02

08 Aug '02

Dear all, Trevor pointed out that the mentors could not create projects under the projects section in phprojekt. I have made some changes for this to take effect. New users who sign in as mentors will now be able to create new projects. As for those already signed in, I made the changes manually. Please let me know if anyone faces any problem in signing in, especially existing users. I am also in the process of changing the forum to something more accessible - something which won't require a login, and with search abilities. Also..there was a post sometime back regarding a repository of configuration files. Any ideas of how we could go about it (in the site or in the groupware)? --- Regards, | www.thefreespeech.org | Himanshu | Initiate - Collaborate - Contribute |

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Settting up squid cache box
by Zaheer Khan 07 Aug '02

07 Aug '02

hello ppl I have a 512k leased line...for internet access.right now i am using the NAT feature of the router(i dont have a CISCO router, other wise i guess i could use router feature for redirection) to give access to the internet.Is is possible to setup linux multihomed box...acting as the default gateway (instead of the current router) & proxy, masq and caching server..so that i can save bandwidth and log all the user activities..please give u r inputs..I have 32 public ips. i guess an extra hop wouldt make any difference. Current setup Router <---> hub <---> users Suggested setup Router (s0 wan port ip, eth0-public ip) | Linux Multihomed Box (eth0- public ip, eth1- private ip) | Hub | Users

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routing entries storing place?
by akshaysalkar 06 Aug '02

06 Aug '02

where are the routing entries stored? i would also like to know is to what really happens (for redhat) when i configure route+gateway using netconf for the default routes. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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knowing what other user is doing
by Hiten Desai 06 Aug '02

06 Aug '02

Hi! if suppose there are two users logged in myself on tty1 and two on tty4 if I want to know what exactly two on tty4 is doing can I get the screen of tty4 and get that output on tty1 ??? Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com

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Re[2]: knowing what other user is doing
by Vinay Pai 06 Aug '02

06 Aug '02

> root is just another user, albeit with a few more privileges. Yeah right... just like a nuke is just another bomb with a little more power and a computer is an abacus with a few more features :)

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college lab
by Gurpreet Singh 05 Aug '02

05 Aug '02

>IMHO, this may not be a very good scheme. The reason is that all >the >Windows workstations on the network have to have the entire OS >and all >the applications you erquire, installed on every machine. You >only end >up managing an extra (Linux) Server along with all those >workstations. >If you really need to have Windows workstations, you should >rather >hook up the computers together and make one of the machines run a >WINS >service. {snip) i know brother that the scheme is not very good, but its not my lab. 200 more students work on them.. plus i am not the boss. the HOD wants it to be done that way and no one say "NO" to the HOD. its his way or the highway.. so we have to do it the way he told us to. windows workstations- linux server- remote login(telnet) and ftp server __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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college lab
by Gurpreet Singh 05 Aug '02

05 Aug '02

>IMHO, this may not be a very good scheme. The reason is that all >the >Windows workstations on the network have to have the entire OS >and all >the applications you erquire, installed on every machine. You >only end >up managing an extra (Linux) Server along with all those >workstations. >If you really need to have Windows workstations, you should >rather >hook up the computers together and make one of the machines run a >WINS >service. {snip) i know brother that the scheme is not very good, but its not my lab. 200 more students work on them.. plus i am not the boss. the HOD wants it to be done that way and no one say "NO" to the HOD. its his way or the highway.. so we have to do it the way he told us to. windows workstations- linux server- remote login(telnet) and ftp server __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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[OFFTOPIC] Open letter to Goan musicians...
by Frederick Noronha 04 Aug '02

04 Aug '02

Dear Linuxers friends, Do you think this would work? Do I need to sharpen some issues below? Your suggestions are welcome. Apologies for an off-topic post, but I'm keen to expand this thinking to other spheres. Anyone wanting a copy of my 'copyleft' photos is free to request a copy of the same. FN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Dear musicians from Goa: This is a dream: to create a bank of 'open source' MP3 music from Goa, and by Goan musicians worldwide... that could be shared among music enthusiasts freely across the globe through the Internet. If you share this dream, or think it could be workable, read on... How would it help those volunteering to share their skills? Firstly, it would build awareness about the depth and variety of Goan music that has evolved over the centuries and continues to evolve. Secondly, it would showcase the talent and skills of musicians linked to Goa. Thirdly, and importantly, it would increase the amount of publicly-accessible music from Goa that can be shared legally and reproduced freely among all who appreciate music from Goa. Who would 'control' the collection? Nobody. It would be available to one and all via the Internet. Probably the various Goa-related sites would find it in their interest to reproduce this music, and make it downloadable -- after duly giving credit to the artists who created the music. (Rights remain with the artist, even under CopyLeft terms, though reproduction is made freely allowable.) What form of music would be welcome? Anythink that would interest the listener. Past, present, Western, Indian, classical, pop, vocals, instrumental, Konkani, English, Hindi, Portuguese, Italian (yes, Goans have sung in this language), trance... or whatever. Would I lose control over the music created? There are various forms of 'open' licences (different from the restrictive copyright forms of licensing, which seldom benefits the artist but is mostly used as a controlling tool by some corporation with financial clout) being debated on the Net. These apply to software, music, text, audio, creative works and a lot else. You are free to choose any form of license that suits you. If we could agree (might be difficult), a common form of licensing could be opted for. Would this work? Let me share an experience. I've already put out about 2000 of my photographs of Goa in the 'copyleft' world, and have not for a moment regretted it. Rather than just lying around on my hard-disk (and then getting lost in some hard-disk crash), these photographs have reached websites and desktops across the globe, and have surfaced at the most unexpected places. Non-commercial reproduction is free, though I appreciate being told where it is used. Such an approach earns attention to one's creative work. Not just that, sharing actually makes the world a better place. At a very selfish level, it sometimes also brings in potential for more work for a freelance journalist. Feedback often stimulates one's own creativity. In the rare eventuality of anything going wrong, one is at the very least assured that creating another 2000 photographs in a scenic place like Goa would not be an immensely difficult task. Musicians unsure about whether this would work at all could venture by putting out a limited quantity of their work (even if only one or two creations) and check the response and suitability. Above all, nothing ventured, nothing gained. In fact, I am also planning to put out an archive of much of my earlier writing in the 'CopyLeft' world -- freely reproduceable for non-commercial purposes, while retaining the rights. The main reason this has got delayed is the shortage of time to assemble all this work in a well-sorted manner. Would this not be counter-productive to the artistes? Contrary to intuitive-thinking, this would not depress the 'market' of Goan music, but on the contrary could actually extend and deepen it. Just because there are free/low-priced MP3s floating around on the Internet, it does not necessarily mean that people are going to be less willing to 'pay' to listen to Goan music in future. On the contrary, it could enhance awareness about musical talent in Goa, and deepen appreciation of the same. In much of my work, I have gained (even if seen purely in commercial terms) much much more from putting my work out in 'open/free content' format, rather than stashing it away on some obscure corner of my hard-disk. In the software world, the GNU/Linux Free Software/Open Source system works in other creative ways too. For instance, commercial firms are allowed to repackage and 'sell' (at a low cost, naturally, since anyone could copy this product) to users, charging for the cost they've incurred at packaging and marketing the material, plus overheads. What this means is that, on the one hand it would give small firms a chance to earn from this format of marketing, on the other it would also encourage musicians to gain a much wider audience, and fans to get access to MP3-based Goan music at a much lower cost. There is also the possibility of musicians putting out part of their work in 'open content' and the rest marketed through usual channels, thus allowing one to act as a stimuli for building interest in their form of music. It looks like a win-win-win game... if only we have enough initiatives to get started and build momentum. If you think this is an interesting idea, please let's take it forward. When I hear the Delhi-based M Menezes' soulful rendering of Hindi film hits on the piano, I wonder why no one has yet managed to do the same for the popular Goan music of past decades... when we have so much talent all around.... and guitar guilds or groups putting up much-appreciated regular performaces at regular intervals now. Frederick Noronha, Goa... on a rain August Sunday afternoon. PS: See the note below... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ OPEN PUBLICATION LICENCES, A NEW LICENSE: A new public license -- the Open Publication License -- promises to bring the power of the open-source software movement to video, audio, and text while still preserving authors' rights to profit from the calluses of their creative hands. http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/20276.html ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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[offtopic] books for sale
by akshaysalkar 04 Aug '02

04 Aug '02

Does any 1 want Computer/Linux Books at a discounted rate (ie. 20%-25% approx. off the normal price) Books in good condition. Some books are brand new. (Costs after Discount) 1) Teach yourself HTML4 in 24 hours - Oliver/Holshwag Rs. 80 - Techmedia 2) Mastering Foxpro 2.5 Special Edition - Siegel - Rs. 225 - BPB 3) ObjectOriented Software Engineering - Haladay - Rs. 150 4) Teach yourself UML in 24 hours - Schmuler - Rs. 113 5) Java Software Solutions - Lewis - Rs. 260 6) Understanding Pointers in C - Kanetkar - Rs. 113 7) Write TSR's now - Ras - Rs. 75 8) Problems in General Physics - Irodov - Rs. 113 9) Programming Perl 3/e - Wall - Rs. 460 anybody wanting any of the above books plz. contact me at email : akshaysalkar(a)indiatimes.com or telephone on 2052404. (plz. leave msg./name/telephone if i am not there) akshay. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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(no subject)
by satyajit balkrishna saste 03 Aug '02

03 Aug '02

I am having trouble sharing files in linux using NFS.I have a network of two comps. We have used the following commands: #/etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start #/etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs start and then the mount command: #mount -t nfs faisal:/home /stuff ----where faisal is the m/c name of the 1'st comp, home the directory I want to access & I am mounting it into the /stuff folder .....Satyajit saste B.E Computers Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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Re: Re[2]: [ILUG-BOM] RH Linux not overwriting MBR.
by Vinay Pai 03 Aug '02

03 Aug '02

> Same thing done the other way....... > There is a catch in it though... > Before executing it, you need to have Windows partition mounted at /mnt/winc, > right?? Now, while loading the bootloader you don't know of any filesystem > tree. Then where will "winc" be mounted??? > Only after booting into linux will you be able to access /mnt - unless of > course it is onto a different partition. But again, it would be better if you > use the device name + partition no. combination instead of *nix filesystem > specifics. I did it mainly because I used to frequently update kernels... it doesn't make too much sense to write the bootsector somewhere else, dd it to a file, copy it to the windoze partition etc. every time. If you do it only once, during installation, then of course it amounts to the same thing, and my method is probably more more roundabout.

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RH Linux not overwriting MBR.
by Nikhil Karkera 03 Aug '02

03 Aug '02

Have 2 HDDs: Master: 4 Gb [hda] Slave: 32 Gb [hdb] (is 40 Gb, but my BIOS treats it as 32 Gb) Windows C: on hda. It has 2 more windows partitions. For hdb the partitions are as follows: hdb1 - Windows hdb2: hdb5, hdb6.... <10 partitions>. All Windows. hdb3 - Linux native, mount point / - 10Gb hdb4 - Linux swap - 200 Mb It goes through the entire installation process, and asks me to reboot. But then directly boots into Windows. Tried Lilo & Grub. I explicitly asked to overwrite MBR during installation. Haven't tried with boot disk. Damn those floppies. All turned up with bad sectors :) Tried RH Linux 7.2 & 5.0. Any way out? Warm regards, Nikhil.

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PRC ..good going
by Gurpreet Singh 03 Aug '02

03 Aug '02

hello luggerz visited the PRC, and did sign up... good work himanshu n trevor, students are gonna find this gr8... need more souls like u in the world. how abt my suggestion of a help page?? have got a project from my teachers.. it is A Linux Cluster to implement RSA cryptography any suggestion fellows... another prob... we've been trying to set up a linux lab in our coll. what we want is that our server runs on linux and the nodes on windows, every student who works in the lab has an account on the server but sits on the nodes and do their programs there and when they are done, they may store their work on the server. we have set up the network and we are being able to perform remote login from the nodes BUT we are having probs configuring the ftp deamon. its only allowing anonymous login and that too isnt being able to send files to the server. can we have some help on this plz- we want that every person who has a valid account on the server shud be able to ftp to the server thru that account... plz we are desperately trying... PLZ HELP Gurpreet

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Intel boards ......suck bigtime
by Amol Hatwar 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 Trevor Warren wrote : > >--- Rajesh Deo <rajeshdeo(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 06:21, Sameer Shinde wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "B. J. Ram Rao" <ramrao(a)bajirao.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 6:00 PM > > > >[snip] > At Zenith we have been working with tonz of Intel >Desktop boards.....nd believe me, if u were a >gnu-linux enthusiast, u would prefer to keep away frm >these boards even if the vendor would thrown in a >lovely package. *chop* Hmmm... I have been through many of the Intel channel meets. They do give an impression even to dealers that their mobos are really high end. Unless you are talking server boards, everything else is plain hogwash. IMHO, Intel motherboards and even *Intel Chipsets* suck! My AMD K6-2 350 with a VIA chipset, does faster I/O than a Intel Pentium III with an Intel Chipset. I find Linux support for mobo's from manufacturers like ASUS and Gigabyte is great. Also they are much better than Intel ones in design. The only regret is that they hurt your pocket. -ahGive your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Intel boards ......suck bigtime
by Amol Hatwar 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 Trevor Warren wrote : > >--- Rajesh Deo <rajeshdeo(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 06:21, Sameer Shinde wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "B. J. Ram Rao" <ramrao(a)bajirao.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 6:00 PM > > > >[snip] > At Zenith we have been working with tonz of Intel >Desktop boards.....nd believe me, if u were a >gnu-linux enthusiast, u would prefer to keep away frm >these boards even if the vendor would thrown in a >lovely package. *chop* Hmmm... I have been through many of the Intel channel meets. They do give an impression even to dealers that their mobos are really high end. Unless you are talking server boards, everything else is plain hogwash. IMHO, Intel motherboards and even *Intel Chipsets* suck! My AMD K6-2 350 with a VIA chipset, does faster I/O than a Intel Pentium III with an Intel Chipset. I find Linux support for mobo's from manufacturers like ASUS and Gigabyte is great. Also they are much better than Intel ones in design. The only regret is that they hurt your pocket. -ahGive your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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Philippines/Malaysia Open Source Hubs
by Frederick Noronha 02 Aug '02

02 Aug '02

Extracts from a note by Bala Pillai <bala(a)tamil.net> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Tamil Ants/Erumbugale, The most interactive open source/Linux community in our time zone/Asia springs out of the Philippines. Primarily because the Filipino psyche is a more secure psyche, a more self-confident pyche. Folks who are self-confident worry about the future less, and allocate more time diagnosing and solving problems rather than echoing and reechoing it. Filipinos are also more into sharing and online sharing - we should look to more symbiosis with them. Manila-based Miguel Paraz whom I have interacted with since 1996, is a key catalyst in the Filipino Linux community. http://www.q-linux.com is a good starting point to get a feel for the key Open Source catalysts in the Philippines. KL,Malaysia-based Dinesh who runs http://www.alphaque.com is another lead Open Source catalyst in our tmiezone. Do look for symbiosis opportunities there too.... I see lots of room for us to symbiosis together. For example, there is likely to be areas where we diagnosing, documenting, analysing, coding or publicising where there is over-duplication. If we coordinated ourselves and found out where our circles and priorities intersect , we could share this work and get fruits out faster. For your consideration. cheers../bala Bala Pillai <bala(a)tamil.net> Founder, Thamil Innaiyam (since 1995) http://www.tamil.net Founder, Malaysia.Net (since 1995) http://www.malaysia.net Founder, The Asia Pacific Internet Company (since 1995) http://www.apic.net Towards Wired Ants Mindhood: Click on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/erumbugal Sydney, Australia Phone: + 61 2 9498 4852 Yahoo Instant Messenger: bala2pillai

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