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RE: Know not what to say!
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 13 Feb '06

13 Feb '06

> When you subscribe to Yahoo or Hotmail, you create an account with them > and you knowingly use their computers. But if someone else offers you to > use its computers, they should have no business to know your account > details on the Yahoo/Hotmail computers. It is like using a banking > application created by a third party, to access your bank account. I dont care. That's not going to get me a pat on the back for my security consciousness, but I still trust meebo. If you do not, then good enough, but some people just might go for it. Its the degree of security and trust that matters.

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[commercials] Jobs-Linux Startup Company
by shamshu shaikh 13 Feb '06

13 Feb '06

Hi all, Mine is a StartUp company based on Linux Platform, i would like to have linux techies ( even freshers / free-lancers ) to be on board with me to achieve their as well as company goals in the best and fastest possible way.The company is based in bombay.You can post this mail in your group also and ask your friends to send in their resumes to me.Freshers with an attitude to work hard arealso welcome.People interested to join me can feel free to contact me at shamshu.s(a)gmail.com.Please send in your CV with contact details.The areas of work should be qmail,sendmail,apache,mysql,ldap,iptables,RPM's , PHP scripting , shell scripting

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Interesting.
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 13 Feb '06

13 Feb '06

It is indeed interesting to note how this list specializes in picking up a quarrel over some triviality.

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Net Telephony on Linux
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 13 Feb '06

13 Feb '06

Hi, I've been searching for a Net Telephony solution today and realized that none of the providers (atleast from the ones I found) provide a non-windows dialer. MTNL seemed to come closest with a browser based dialer. But there was a catch. The javascript of the browser based dialer seems to be IE specific; it doesn't work on Firefox and Konqueror. I also tried running all dialers (VSNL, MTNL, WorldPhone) with wine but with no success. I couldn't get past much of the VB runtime crap (esp. MS Forms 2.0) inspite of installing the runtime and manually downloading and registering individual dlls. Does anyone around here know of a cheap net telephony solution which can work on my linux system? Regards, Siddhesh

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[commercial] linux/computer books for sale.
by Akshay Salkar 10 Feb '06

10 Feb '06

Dear All, I have some good books for sale. Discount for New books ranging from 20%-25% approx. off the normal price. Old Books at discount more than 40%-60% approx. off the normal price. BOOKS ON C AND C++ : 1) Write TSR's now - Ras - Rs. 75 2) Professional Linux Programming - Mathews - Rs. 410 - Wrox 3) Understanding Pointers in C - Kanetkar - Rs. 113 4) ObjectOriented Software Engineering - Haladay - Rs. 150 BRAND NEW: (Costs after Discount) 1) Teach yourself UML in 24 hours - Schmuler - Rs. 113 2) Java Software Solutions - Lewis - Rs. 260 3) Write TSR's now - Ras - Rs. 75 4) Problems in General Physics - Irodov - Rs. 113 5) Programming Perl 3/e - Wall - Rs. 450 6) Professional Linux Programming - Mathews - Rs. 410 - Wrox 7) Professional PHP - Wrox Edition - Rs.350 8) Apache Web Server - Rs. 120 SECOND HAND: (Costs after Discount) 1) Teach yourself HTML4 in 24 hours - Oliver/Holshwag - Rs. 80 - Techmedia 2) Mastering Foxpro 2.5 Special Edition - Siegel - Rs. 100 - BPB 3) ObjectOriented Software Engineering - Haladay - Rs. 150 4) Understanding Pointers in C - Kanetkar - Rs. 113 5) Using Linux - Gunter - Rs. 270 6) DNS & Bind - Liu - Rs.100 - Oreilly anybody wanting any of the above books plz. contact me at email : akshaysalkar(a)gmail.com or telephone on Mobile: 9821599801 akshay.

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[Commercial] Required Server/Web Administrator
by Hanisha Vaswani 10 Feb '06

10 Feb '06

Hi, My company Pinstorm (www.pinstorm.com) requires someone with the following skills for the post of server/web administrator. 1) Database : MYSQL , Oracle 2) O/S: Linux RedHat , UNIX , Sun Solaris , Windows Servers 3) Configuration , Installation , Performance Tuning with the following: a) Database Servers b)Hardware / Software, Firewalls c)WebServers (Apache, Tomcat) d)MailServer (SendMail, QMail, Postfix) 4) LDAP / OpenLDAP, NFS, Terminal Services 5) Fetchmail, PostFix, VS-FTP, NTP, DHCP, DNS 6) Tools: SSH, TCP Wrappers, IPTables, IPChain 7) Perl & Shell Scripting / Bash Script 8) Backups 9) Patches/Updates - Antivirus 10)Handled Multiple Servers & More than 100 Pcs 11)Remote Logging in / Configuring / Troubleshooting If you fit the profile and are interested, or know someone who would be, please write to namrata(a)pinstorm.com or raj(a)pinstorm.com. Thanks, Hanisha __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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reinstalling grub
by Ninad Bapat 10 Feb '06

10 Feb '06

Hi I have 2 hard drives installed and I have WinXP, Slackware,FC3 on hda1 and Ubuntu,Kanotix on hdb Recently Windows XP started giving some errors. For e.g whenever an application(Excel,firefox etc) was opened I got a popup message "Windows-Corrupt file C/WINDOWS/prefetch/xxxx.pf is corrupt and unreadable please run chkdsk" The application then would continue to run without any problems. Especially firefox always gave errors and all the files in profiles/mozilla went corrupt. I could not access my bookmarks and history. When I attempted to do chkdsk It complained that the File System is RAW and chkdsk does not support such filesystem. I tried to repair this XP installation by booting from the XP CD. Here also setup complained that C: is corrupt and cannot be repaired. So I tried to install XP again. Here when I select the option to install setup automatically selects my D drive (extended partition) and when I change it to C and select delete and proceed to install new it does not ask for any formatting option and gives the same error above. Now after all this exercise my Grub menu has been wiped off and now when I start my computer I get 2 options 1. Win XP professional 2. Win XP professional Setup. When I boot into Windows my display has become 640x480 and this cannot be changed. How do I restore Grub to atleast boot into Linux. Grub was installed when Ubuntu was installed Thanks Ninad

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networking help: Allowing inbound ssh requests. (MTNL router)
by Abhishek Daga 09 Feb '06

09 Feb '06

Hello folks, wondering if anyone has tried this and has worked for them? Need someone from the outside (remote location) to access a *nix machine here. Setup is: MTNL Triband (no static IP assigned to me.). Using Dlink DSL 502 router. LAN IP being 192.168.1.1. WAN IP is what the outsider would use to get in. Connected to Netgear Router. (WAN IP = 192.168.1.2, LAN IP = 192.168.0.1). Machines are connected to this netgear router as 192.168.0.X) Earlier when I had Tataindicom broadband with a static IP, the only configuration was required at the netgear router level where i did port forwarding of the service to the desired machine. The TATA router had a different interface and a bridge was enabled there. I do not see a similar option here with mtnl. I tried to allow under advanced--filters, inbound access to the router IP (192.168.1.2) since this is the one connected to the mtnl dsl router. It says ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by host. Telneting to same IP gets me to the mtnl router (linux box) with no worries. Is it possible to ssh to any machine of mine with the current setup? thanks! -abhi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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How can I access my memory card ?
by neel s Gurjar 09 Feb '06

09 Feb '06

Hi I have Nokia 6670 mobile. And I have installed Suse 10 on my pc. When I connect phone to my PC It detects it as modem. It doesnt show removable disk as windows shows ? What should I do ? Please Help Neel

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Help for Internet
by Dinesh J Dalvi 08 Feb '06

08 Feb '06

I'm using Novell Linux desktop and MTNL broadband Internet. Some sites are get open properly but very slow, while some site name does not get resolve at all. I put DNS entrie manually in resolve.conf but no use. If I dig the site and got the IP associated with site I can brows the site. Pls someone help me. DD

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Segmentation fault, wvdial
by Javed Rahman 08 Feb '06

08 Feb '06

i'm connecting to the internet with a reliance lg-lsp350r using wvdial.. there is no problem connecting to the internet but after a few hours it disconnects giving the error "Segmentation fault"... i tried in FC4 and in ubuntu 5.10... same thing is happening in both operating systems... however it is running smoothly on cluster knoppix 3.6... any suggestions as to how i can fix this???? -- javed...

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Know not what to say!
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 08 Feb '06

08 Feb '06

>> Remind me again, what are we arguing about? > Some one called Philip 'raving mad' which was *out of line* > to his valid post of not presenting your online acc info > to a random website on a platter. I stick to my comment, since I found Philip's reply sarcastic, illogical and uncalled-for. He has not yet been able to justify his position as to how the meebo guys are untrustworthy while Yahoo! and Hotmail are. Sure big brandname counts, but how much does it count is the issue? Its about to what degree you trust whom, and entirely a personal issue. Thank you, Debarshi

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Kernel Panic, Can't boot to rescue mode.
by Nadeem M Khan 08 Feb '06

08 Feb '06

Dear all, I' am getting a kernel panic: no init found on my RHEL AS 3 database server. This happened after the system was rebooted after UPS maintenance activity. I know the best solution would be to enter rescue mode and examine the files. But I have a strange problem. When I enter rescue mode and it attempts to mount /mnt/sysimage, instead of getting the shell, the screen gets distorted with error messages. The error lines do not appear one below the other but diagonally. Something like this: errorno 5: input/output error some binary characters you may safely reboot the system now. Also, when I try have a look at the partition labels with druid, it works okay till the manual/automatic disk partitioning screen. After that, it says "Cannot read partition table. The partition table needs to be recreated and all data will be lost". We have configured LVM on the system with four scsi disks. Ther server is IBM xseries 365. The sytem alarm LED is off. I googled for the whole of yesterday night , and also called a few experts, but their solution was all the same...rescue...chroot...fsck. etc. I know the system is more or less dead with a bad superblock, but has any of you experienced the distorted screen in rescue mode before? And yes, please don't ask me to RTFM because I've been doing that the whole night. Also, getting official support from RH would take time as these servers were shipped from Chennai. I am not inviting any flames here, I am not asking any of you to do my research as well. All I'm asking for are inputs from your experience. Thanks a lot. Regards NMK.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Know not what to say!
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 08 Feb '06

08 Feb '06

>> People have given me loads of 'gyan' on how to configure Gaim, Kopete >> and the like. Let me tell you friends, I have spent the better half >> of a year trying to configure them, I have tried the so-called normal >> easy settings. They do not work. I can not comment on people who >> claim to have got them working from behind a SQUID proxy, but in my >> case they do not work. The proxy blocks ports such as 5050 and 5222, >> which are directly used by Google Talk and Yahoo!, and since our >> sysadmin left its not possible to get them opened. At this point let >> me point out that my purpose was to make a post to help out others, >> and not seek help for myself. If you find it unacceptable, then very >> well, but do not spoil the fresh air. As one of the members have >> pointed out, I can do some hacking on Gaim by downloading its source >> code, etc.. I am already on my way my dear friend! And by the way I >> had tried contacting Google long time back but to no avail. I >> definitely find your patronosing attitude exteremely disgusting. But >> do you realise that there are scores of people who do not give a damn >> about hacking Gaim, who would love to use GNU/Linux if only they had >> an easy way to solve some of their problems. > Look. If those proxy settings dont work on Linux then nothing probably > will.... If they dont work then you need to use ethereal / tcpdump to understand > what the heck is going on. > Tough luck. Thats not the point my dear. I have already figured out the issue. I think I clearly mentioned it earlier. Moreover someone took the pain of pointing out how his CVS > If windows clients use HTTP proxy to get their messages through Squid then Linux > clients should as well. Thats exactly what I want to say. But its not feasible to hack through every problem that I encounter in GNU/Linux. I already spent a lot of time to find out a way to get my touchpad working flawlessly in Fedora Core 2. I agree with Kenneth's view that Linux is for everyone and not for the 'elite'. I do not know how you are going to meet the FSF India's goal of spreading Free Software to the masses (especially in rural areas), if you think otherwise. I would love to hear Dr. Nagarjuna's views on this. To strengthen my point regarding what Mark Shuttleworth was talking about that day, I can site the example of how Ubuntu has decided not to include the developer tools in their desktop seed. Doubting Thomases are invited to view the debate on this at the Ubuntu FAQ. The need to take GNU/Linux to the masses has been clearly and repeatedly stated. I love hacking, maybe more than what some people on this list do. But I do _not_ have the time to hack around every odd problem I encounter. Just switching over to Windoze would have a much simpler solution for many people in my position. However now that this whole discussion is becoming more an more of a flame war, I would want to desist from participating in it. The sole intention of my initial post was to help out people who have been encountering the same problem as myself, and not to beg for needless advice from so-called 'gyaani' people.

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Know not what to say!
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Infra, Energy) 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

>Remind me again, what are we arguing about? Some one called Philip 'raving mad' which was *out of line* to his valid post of not presenting your online acc info to a random website on a platter. and then detour to mailing-list-Wonderland, where posters play n blind-men and the elephant (any word/jargon)... except that here the elephant can't just sit on them and squish the spiral argument. - Gishu

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Know not what to say!
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

Well I have had enough. I had made a simple post to help out the multitude of people who I know are not shifting or opting for GNU/Linux because of their IM problems. I am appalled to hear that people find my pompous attitude disgusting. Actually its me who should have been disgusted long ago. Its strange that people on this mailing list can not take some simple tips in a healthy way. People have given me loads of 'gyan' on how to configure Gaim, Kopete and the like. Let me tell you friends, I have spent the better half of a year trying to configure them, I have tried the so-called normal easy settings. They do not work. I can not comment on people who claim to have got them working from behind a SQUID proxy, but in my case they do not work. The proxy blocks ports such as 5050 and 5222, which are directly used by Google Talk and Yahoo!, and since our sysadmin left its not possible to get them opened. At this point let me point out that my purpose was to make a post to help out others, and not seek help for myself. If you find it unacceptable, then very well, but do not spoil the fresh air. As one of the members have pointed out, I can do some hacking on Gaim by downloading its source code, etc.. I am already on my way my dear friend! And by the way I had tried contacting Google long time back but to no avail. I definitely find your patronosing attitude exteremely disgusting. But do you realise that there are scores of people who do not give a damn about hacking Gaim, who would love to use GNU/Linux if only they had an easy way to solve some of their problems. Someone also pointed out that Mark had asked us to leave the WIndows users alone, and concentrate on new users. Interesting point, but can you tell me how you would keep the 'new' user 'glued' to GNU/Linux after they find that they can not use their favourite IM service from behind the proxy? Not everyone has the energy to scour the net and hack around to arrive at a solution. I have the time to do it, but hardly any one else has. So Mr. Philip, Mr. Joshi, and the others, if you can not stand some healthy tips, do not stand them, but do not spoil the atmosphere by your raves and rants!

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(no subject)
by Karia Amit 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

Hi All, We Have added route by using route add <ip> <gateway> the added ip is in different network. Now the problem is we are able to ping the that ip but not able to traceroute the machine.. it shows multiple interface found. and if we use traceroute -i <ip> interface .. It drops the trace route packet.. remember WE ARE ABLE TO PING THE SERVER.. Both the machine are solaris machines.. Any ideas?? Rgds Amit "Courage is not to go on with strength, It is to go on knowing u dont have any strength" Rgds Amit

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ssh as root?
by Kenneth Gonsalves 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

hi, i have 10 websites on a particular server. Each site has its own user and is housed on the user's home directory. Currently, to maintain each site i ssh into it as that user and do the work. I also have to have root ssh'd in one terminal for restarting apache etc. This means keeping 11 terminals open and remembering which is which. Also when the net connection goes down i have to do a lot of work to relogin on each terminal. How safe would it be if i just used one terminal and su from root for each user as and when required. What are the best practices for such a setup? -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க!

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Re: How to IM from behind a SQUID proxy on a GNU/Linux box? Here is a solution...
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 07 Feb '06

07 Feb '06

> Heh, so if I start a website of my own, with pretty pictures and > colours, will you give me your IM passwords as well? I think Philip is raving mad! What prompted you to think that only meebo and not Yahoo!, Google or Microsoft will be having our IM passwords and sneaking into our privacy? By the way I will greatly appreciate it if Philip is able to come up with a solution to IMing from behind a proxy.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: How to IM from behind a SQUID proxy on a GNU/Linux box? Here is a solution...
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 06 Feb '06

06 Feb '06

>> I think Philip is raving mad! What prompted you to think that only >> meebo and not Yahoo!, Google or Microsoft will be having our IM >> passwords and sneaking into our privacy? > To be able to authenticate to Yahoo!, you need to know a username and > password from that service. You are not supposed to share that with > anyone else. > Meebo is effectively able to MITM your IM conversations. But thats not the point. Yahoo! may very well read every e-mail IM that I have ever sent. Who told you that the Yahoo! guys ae absolute saints not prone to mischief. Its a matter of trust. If you trust Yahoo!, very well, go forward and use its services. If you trust meebo then go ahead. If you do not then, very well again. But do not spread your mistrust, until you have very sound reasons to back your claims. Can you prove how Yahoo! is more trustable than meebo? >> By the way I will greatly appreciate it if Philip is able to come up >> with a solution to IMing from behind a proxy. > There is always Jabber. Plus, if you _do_ need IM from work, you should > be able to get a hole poked in the proxy. Alternatively, you could > always telecommute, or even get another job. Hahaha my dear friend, you have got it all wrong. I do not do a job, I study in an university where every other Windows IM client works. Yahoo! MEssenger, Google Talk, Rediff Bol, etc.. Therefore the university has no policy to block IM. But not a single UNIX based client works. Not even Gaim, Kopete, Yahoo! Messenger for UNIX. Needless to say that I have tried using Jabber on Gaim. The simple reason being that the Windows clients piggyback the IM packets on HTTP packets and use port 80 for their job, while the UNIX based ones do not. Hence the problem. Those who have attended Mark's talk on making GNU/Linux more desktop friendly, we have to work out solutions that work on Windoze and GNU/Linux equally well. So do not talk about stuff that require obscure hacking to make them work. I do not have any problem with them, but laymen do have problems doing so! For your kind information a lot of UNIX based utilities like CVS are very difficult to get to work from behind a proxy (in my case SQUID)! I expect an answer to my poblems...

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HELP !!! vsftp
by Sushant Gulati 06 Feb '06

06 Feb '06

hello all, i am in a major problem at present, i need help regarding an error "OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root". Actually i hav to give a demonstration of my project and this ftp portion is a critical part of that. But the problem arises, when i uses ncftp for uploading a file to the ftp server. When i use ncftp command via a shell script, this errot pops up. Also wheni try connecting to the ftp through terminal by giving command ncftp or ftp, and try using any of the commands available within the ftp prompt, it gives an errot "not connected" tell me what my problem is and help me out. I have enable all the anonymous user related options in the vsftpd.conf file. KINDLY HELP ME OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. Warm regards, Sushant __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Diskless Networking
by neel s Gurjar 06 Feb '06

06 Feb '06

Hi I have suse 10. & I want to do diskless networking. My server is P4 2.Ghz 256 MB RAM. And I have clients (which will be diskless) of P2 333 Mhz 32 to 64 MB RAM. I need GUI on clientside. How can i do it ? without using LTSP ? Please help me Neel

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how to change my yahoo id
by madina bikiteyeva 06 Feb '06

06 Feb '06

good day every body please advise me how to change my yahoo id thanks --------------------------------- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

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OpenLX at Linux Asia
by Sudhir Gandotra 05 Feb '06

05 Feb '06

KalCulate & OpenLX Alliance Invites you to the Yearly Event on Linux Linux Asia 2006 8th, 9th & 10th February 2006 09 am till 6 pm (on all days) Stall No. A-12, India Habitat Center Lodhi Road, New Delhi Please consider this a personal invitation and do visit to encourage and bless us with your best wishes To all those who have been and are supporting us, having faith in us and making us stronger; To all those who opposed us & made us stronger; To all those who manipulated us & made us stronger; We are happy with what we have achieved, We feel stronger to achieve more & more, Our thanks to all, that we can have our own stall, at this prestigious event. Kalculate is being bundled by OEMs & has over 3000 users, OpenLX Linux is bundled by OEMs, 25,000+ copies distributed and being used in 30+ countries, with daily Downloads happening across the InterNet, and positive & encouraging reviews across the globe, OpenLX Alliance has partners in India, Mauritius, Middle-east, USA, UK and growing bigger. We are working to achieve our Global aims. We will be launching more products & services at the show. -- Peace, Force & Joy! Sudhir Gandotra. 98-101-20918 / 93-124-65666 OpenLX Linux OS, Linux Training, Support, Services, Product Development Legal.Software @ Fractional Cost : http://kalculate.com http://openlx.com - International Alliance of LINUX companies You don't need violence to shake the world Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You www.humanistmovement.org

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PPPOE keeps disconnecting
by Shekhar Sherikar 05 Feb '06

05 Feb '06

Hey people Will someone please help me out with this? I access the Internet via pppoe. I am using Fedora Core 3 and Win XP dual boot machine. Prior to FC3 (1 year), I had been using FC1 (1 year), Red Hat 8 (1 year). The connection is working fine with WinXP's (using default pppoe option in connect setup). The problem is with the connection and my Linux install - that the connection works fine for say, a minute ot so. Then though ppp0 shows to be up in ifconfig, ping <domain> (say, ping google.com) gives me "Host not Found" messege when I ping. Needless to say that my browser gives me the same error when I try to access a website. The funny thing is that previously resolved DNS (such as an on-going download) continues, but new queries do not resolve after a minute or so of the network start. When I restart the network using /etc/init.d/network restart, the same story repeats - DNS resolving fine for some time and then it doesn't work. I even tried using latest FC3 update of rp-pppoe, but things look the same. The most frustating thing is that things worked perfectly with the same connection since I got it in September till a week ago. Then my provider changed something that made the pppoe connection not connect at all. The guy kept telling me that my system had a 'virus' or 'bad sectors' and to re-install some 'ras-pppoe' for Windows. After I told the guy that I cannot connect despite threatened the provider that I'll throw out his connection along with the switch (which connect 1 more connection beyond mine), he sends his incompetant Windows guys who tell me all sorts of crap including boo-boo stories of viruses and what not. Eventually, I got them 4 lan cards and one more machine to test things on and had them admit that the only problem was with their server setup. Then a day later the incompetant guy at the server made some changes and now the connection works with Windows. But not with Linux. Since I mostly like to use Linux for everything, I am pretty depressed and frustrated. If anyone can help me with this issue, I'd be grateful.

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