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ext3 vs Reiserfs
by Nikhil Joshi 09 Mar '02

09 Mar '02

Hi! After having a really bad xperience with ext2 I installed RHL 7.2 with ext3 Earlier I had experimented with Reiserfs and found this interesting thing: I have /home partition (not containing ANY data ) of about 125 MB and I converted it to Reiserfs and surprisingly 33 MB was used (probably for journalling puposes) Now on another Linux forum one user claimed that he had used most of the journalling filesystems and found Reiserfs to be best and fastest. Also I have read that Reiserfs journals only metadata while ext3 journals both metadata and data. I have given a lot of thought but converting / to Reiser is very difficult.Has anyone tried this? So which is the best filesystem ext3 or Reiser? -- Money may buy friendship but money cannot buy love.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] removing make installed files
by Fred4linux 09 Mar '02

09 Mar '02

You can use checkinstall to uninstall/remove files which are created during installation(You need to install this package,Check http://freshmeat.net) or you can write your script to remove these files. With Regards, Fred __________________________________________________________________________________________ On Fri, 2002-03-08 at 11:57, sachin wrote: > hi there > is there any method by which i can remove the files which are instlled by > make or make installed > -- > sachin(a)mediaibc.com > Mi > _______________________________________________ > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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RMS's Program
by Nagarjuna G. 09 Mar '02

09 Mar '02

RMS is in India. RMS's iteneary Bangalore (March 6-13), Chennai (13-14) Pune (March 14-17), He is speaking at Plug's meeting. Delhi (March 17-23), and Bombay (Mar 23rd evening) Any suggestions as to what we can do on 23rd evening. Nagarjuna

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SMS !!
by nasir nasir 09 Mar '02

09 Mar '02

hi , I happened to come across your name while searching for a possible remedy to the problem I encountered during my solaris installation. I have just one hard disk and I installed a windows 2000 first in the "c" partition with 4GB size. Then when I tried to install the solaris 8 following problem occured.( I am just pasting the same error message you have submitted to on user group as I am facing the SAME situtation) ----------------- Warning : ACPI Tables not in Reclaim Memory (next screen) Warning : Resource Conflict - both devices are added Non - ACPI device : PNP0C01 Memory : 9FC00 - 9FFFF, FEE0000-FEF7FFF, FEF8000-FEFFFFF, FEC0000-FEDFFFF, FFF00000-FFFFFFF ACPI device : PNP0C01 Memory : 9FC00-9FFFF, E0000-EFFFF, 40FFC00-FEFFFF -------------- After this, all the hardware devices are scanned and no conflict sign is marked against each device found... it proceeds as usual and comes at the screen where it's about to start the installation with the option "Solaris Jumpstart" after which it's supposed to show the starting dialog box of the installation... but the screen goes white with a stationery cursor blinking at the top and the keyboard stops responding... Any reply from your side will be higly appreciated . Thanx in advance, luv,nasirudheen (India, currently stayin g in bahrain) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Re[2]: [ILUG-BOM] Expecting boo if you are a regular COMPUTER user.
by Vinay Pai 08 Mar '02

08 Mar '02

Hi linuxers-request, >>what is more difficult and challenging : >>being a hacker or a cracker? > Being a hacker. That's because crackers can simply use existing tools, > such as rootkits. Hackers actually have to come up with something new > and difficult. I disagree.... hackers and cracker do essentially the same thing although their objectives differ. Also, in today's climate crackers have another difficult jobs of covering their track to avoid becoming guests of the state...... Regards, Vinay <vinay(a)vinaypai.com> "When you ASSUME you make an ASS of U and ME" - Thomas Harris in 'The Silence of the Lambs'

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e2fsck script
by sachin 08 Mar '02

08 Mar '02

is there any method by which i can automate the scandisk or repaing disk program e2fsck ro fsck so that it will automatically repair my file system without nay user interaction (Fix ?yes) . what are the changes to be make to /etc/rc.sysinit plz help me out sachin -- sachin(a)mediaibc.com Mi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] RMS's Program
by Nikhil Joshi 08 Mar '02

08 Mar '02

From: "Nagarjuna G." <nagarjun(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:42 PM > and Bombay (Mar 23rd evening) 8-O where is Bombay? ,-} _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: 2 Qs
by Vinay Pai 08 Mar '02

08 Mar '02

> 1 - technical - is it possible to load >1 distros of linux? Yes. Try to put /home on a different partition so you can share your files/personal configs between distros. Also ensure that your username->UID mapping is same on all distros. Do this by editing the /etc/passwd file after creating the new (non-root) users. (You DO create a non-privileged user, don't you?) > 2 - how many of v luggers have been able to completely do away with > M$ OSes and its array of applns - IE, Office, etc? personally, i run > win2k and rh7.1 ... but routine chores happen on M$ ... are most > luggers that way ... or am i in the minority here? it would be great > to get some stats on this esp fm people who belong to a staunch > linux community ... I do most of my regular work on Linux. However, I do use M$ for wordprocessing and games. I have never used IE even on Windows (although I have run it under Linux with Wine, just for kicks)... I use Opera AbiWord is decent for basic stuff like hacking out a simple letter etc., but is really very inadequate for anything beyond that. I haven't used Kword. I used to use StarOffice 5.2 for a while but it was very slow and buggy. Anything slower and buggier than M$ software is a VERY bad piece of software. I haven't used the latest staroffice, though. For image editing, The Gimp rocks. X-Fig is great for drawing figures. Its got a rather tacky and kludgy interface but is very powerful if you spend 30 mins figuring it out. X-CD Roast is generally adequate for burning CDs, but can't write multisession CDs E-mail handling is miles ahead on *nix than anything Billy Boy can ever dream of.

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wasted space during cd creation
by Rohit Ramesh 08 Mar '02

08 Mar '02

Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe <sam_buddhe(a)yahoo.com> wrote ... > IIRC, xcdroast can creat multi-session CD's; it even tells you how much > space will be wasted per session and all that. Only thing is that the > interface to do that isn't provided up front; you have to click on a > couple of tabs to reach there. I havent been able to figure out why space is wasted while writing a cd .... shouldn't you be able to burn close 650 or 700 mb ?? ( depending on 74 or 80 minute cds ) Software like Nero Burning ROM report the extra space as " file system overhead " .... what does that mean ? Thanks in advance Regards, Rohit. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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internal modems in Linux
by Rohit 07 Mar '02

07 Mar '02

>>I've heard that Linux doesn't support internal >>modem .... >>Is that true ? Nope, I use a Motorola SM56 Internal modem ... am using Red Hat 7.1 .... and am facing no problems at all.... Rohit. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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hosts.swp
by pavan sharma 07 Mar '02

07 Mar '02

Hi. can i delete this file. How this file is generated.Or if i delete i will not lose my hosts file? Reg pavan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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2 Qs
by |= n I y A N T =| 07 Mar '02

07 Mar '02

hi folks, i would be glad to recv ans to these Qs, one of them is technical, the other just pure inquisitiveness ... 1 - technical - is it possible to load >1 distros of linux? 2 - how many of v luggers have been able to completely do away with M$ OSes and its array of applns - IE, Office, etc? personally, i run win2k and rh7.1 ... but routine chores happen on M$ ... are most luggers that way ... or am i in the minority here? it would be great to get some stats on this esp fm people who belong to a staunch linux community ... a *nix newbie, ny _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Expecting boo if you are a regular COMPUTER user.
by N.Manohara Kurup. 06 Mar '02

06 Mar '02

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sspearheading the movement
by Trevor Warren 05 Mar '02

05 Mar '02

Dear Luggers...... yesterday after consultation with dr.nagarjun i hav mailed u a modified version of the draft proposed by Mr.lakdawala of fsf india. The draft according to him proposes to take Free SOftware to the masses by introducing the concept of Free SOftware in all the schools and colleges all around india. We second this opinion of his and i would like to personally thank him for putting down the proposal in such a neat format for others to make use of. From the perspective of the lug, we would like to propogate/market Free Software and also make it our aim to introduce Gnu/Linux to the various budding students all over india. Thus in this initiative of our i would like to start with all the Engineering Colleges in and around bbay and Maharashtra. Just recently we concluded a very very FRUITFUL trip to Rajaram Bapu College Of Engineering, Kolhapur which saw the Dr.Nagarjun nd the others delivering 3 quality dayz of trainin nd introduction on Free SOftware and Linux to 70 buddin engineers......soem of whom hav even joined the ILUG-BOM mailin list. For the 1st workshop, i spent close to 6000/- from my pocket which later was re-imbursed by the college authorities. I tool this liberty since i knew the college management personally. I know the comercial part out here is tricky......nd the lug has had a bad xperience leavin it with a sour taste in it's mouth. But if i am goin to co-ordiante these workshops on a routine basis i expect some financial support and backing. After pondering abt it for sometime, dr. nagarjun suggested that we could dash the feelers/letter to the various colleges all over bombay,Maharashtra nd after havin comfirmed dates in hand abt the event propose to the FSF abt our initiative. FSF then agress to sanction some funds for us to further the cause and we carry out the preps. I further would like to mention another of dr.nags suggestion. We could also conduct a few commercial workshops asap and garner some funds enough for us to continue with our cause in spreading the word of Free SOftware......Nd this time around we'l take the precautions to prevent us burnin our fingers the way we did last time. Pliss enlist ur comments...so that we can hav a final letter drafted and a core set of volunteers i can bank upon for logistics, event management and speakers for the workshops. Last time dinesh, parag, navin had volutneerd to come along.......Letz get kickin and get the ground work done. Trevor Warren ===== ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com \ (/ | |_|_ \ Urgent ->9820349221(a)maxtouch.co.in / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com

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(no subject)
by prashant wamanrao arbat 05 Mar '02

05 Mar '02

Hi, Linuxers, second mail from long time. I resentelli found the mandrack 8.1 but I have only one cd. During the installation of some utilities it ask for second cd. But I don't have it can you tale me where i get it second CD. Also it does not play vedio sond or pictures of .dat extention I want best player for this where I can found it

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To setup ftp server
by Mallikarjun B.M 05 Mar '02

05 Mar '02

HI to all, Mr.Bhargav had a problem on ftp server setup.Problem is he is not able to enable ftp service in redhat7.2. In this case what you have to do is: 1. login as a root account. 2. execute setup #setup 3. Select system services options 4. In that list, enable wu-ftpd and also disable iptables,ipchains(also disable unmanted services like httpd,lpd because it will slowdown the system) 5. Execute following scripts: #/etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart #/etc/rc.d/init.d/iptables stop #/etc/rc.d/init.d/ipchains stop 6. Create your users as usual. If this doesn't work reply to me. with regards, Malikarjun B.M

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To setup ftpserver
by Mallikarjun B.M 05 Mar '02

05 Mar '02

HI to all, Mr.Bhargav had a problem on ftp server setup.Problem is he is not able to enable ftp service in redhat7.2. In this case what you have to do is: 1. login as a root account. 2. execute setup #setup 3. Select system services options 4. In that list, enable wu-ftpd and also disable iptables,ipchains(also disable unmanted services like httpd,lpd because it will slowdown the system) 5. Execute following scripts: #/etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart #/etc/rc.d/init.d/iptables stop #/etc/rc.d/init.d/ipchains stop 6. Create your users as usual. If this doesn't work reply to me. with regards, Malikarjun B.M

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Converting DOS Files
by Tahir Hashmi 05 Mar '02

05 Mar '02

Look for dos2unix on your system or Googlize it. --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 06:38:45 Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: >Hi, > >How do i convert DOS files to Unix files after porting from the Windows >partition. >I usually have to port my C code from Windows partition to Linux. Vi works >fine, showing a [dos] in the end. But then when i use some programs like >"indent" all new lines are replaced by ^M which i can neither find in vi >using / nor use the grep command. > >BTW, which one has both CR and LF and which one has only CR as new line >charachters? > >Converting back is simple by opening it in Wordpad and saving again. > >Any links to scripts/or hints on scripts wud be gr8. > >thanx .. > >-- >Goldwyn :o) > >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > 2,000,000,000 Web Pages--you only need 1. Save time with My Lycos. http://my.lycos.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Expecting boo if you are a regular COMPUTER user.
by Nikhil Karkera 05 Mar '02

05 Mar '02

On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 Philip S Tellis wrote : >to change it. The jargon file (Appendix C) has a letter written >by RMS >to the New York Times regarding this matter. RMS has allowed the >use of >this letter by anyone for similar purposes. He does like to keep everything free :-) Regards, Nikhil.

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Linux on Windows 2000
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 05 Mar '02

05 Mar '02

Sorry for starting a new thread in this topic. Actually, I don't know how far people have gone in this thread. Well, I heard someone calling upon Cygwin, hence I'm here. This mail is intended for people who want Linux on Win2k only for development kinda thing, otherwise you can use VMWare to install the complete Linux inside Win2k. Mind you, even though VMWare create a swap file for Linux filesystem, it is damn fast as compared to Linux on FAT32. Ok, regarding the development kinda thing : Currently there are at least 3 active projects which are targeted at porting GNU utils on Windows. 1. Cygwin : A project by RedHat Inc. - The only drawbacks are huge size & needs to be installed online(I guess) Otherwise a good piece of software. Allows creation of DLLs as well. www.sources.redhat.com/cygwin 2. MingW : This project is currently unmaintained as far as GNU compliance goes - started out with GNU compliance. This is now part of a project called BloodShed Compilers - again free. www.mingw.org, google for Bloodshed And my favourite : 3. DJGPP : This is a full-fledged suite of GNU Utils including different shells, compilers, E-Macs, binutis, filutils etc. This project is maintained by a guy named DJ Delorie & others. Very good in all respects & actively maintained. Though the size of the project is large about 200 MB - including all additional libraries like ALLEGRO - A Low - LEvel Game ROutine for game development etc, it is distributed as small parts in form of zips. This is an Open Source project, so can get the source code if anyone wants. I use it on Win2k at home - without any problems. It uses COFF with MS-DOS stub (header) added. If anyone is interested, check out the site : www.delorie.com/djgpp Kunal ------------------ A computer scientist is someone who fixes things that aren't broken.

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next lug meet.
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 04 Mar '02

04 Mar '02

When are we having the next lug meet ? Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri Mumbai, India.

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Perl python teaching
by Kishor Bhagwat 03 Mar '02

03 Mar '02

hello folks! Is there anyplace/anyone who teaches PERL/python? and yeah..crash courses..;) regards, kishor It's hard to make a comeback when you haven't been anywhere. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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cyberoam
by country wala 03 Mar '02

03 Mar '02

hey dude.... I To had to switch to windows back again.. because cyberoam dint work in linux.... tell me if u manage to get it to work.! laterz -----t3kjunky

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[LINK] - Flaw weakens Linux security software
by Navin Dhanuka 03 Mar '02

03 Mar '02

http://news.com.com/2100-1001-848467.html http://www.netfilter.org/security/2002-02-25-irc-dcc-mask.html http://news.com.com/2100-1001-835602.html http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/RHSA-2002-028.html By Stephen Shankland Staff Writer, CNET News.com February 28, 2002, 5:30 PM PT Programmers have found a vulnerability in Linux that could allow protective firewall software to grant malicious computer users access to protected networks. The flaw, which affects versions 2.4.14 through 2.4.18-pre9 of the Linux kernel, is in a component of the Netfilter firewall software. The component is involved when two computer users chat directly with each other using the Internet Relay Chat (IRC) system. Information sent across the Internet is broken up into tiny "packets," each with "from" and "to" addresses, indicating who's sent the information and where it's intended to go. So-called firewall software transmits or screens out these packets based on the address of the sender. Netfilter, among the new aspects of the 2.4 version of the Linux kernel, is software that runs within the kernel to filter out unwanted packets. But its IRC helper component configures firewall settings too broadly, potentially allowing communication from IP (Internet Protocol) addresses that should be blocked. Programmers working on the Netfilter firewall software project reported the problem Monday. Versions 7.1 and 7.2 of leading Linux seller Red Hat's product are vulnerable. The Durham, N.C.-based company issued a patch Thursday that corrects the problem. The flawed software isn't installed by default on the Red Hat versions, the company said, but some users may have added it. Security is a nagging concern for the computer industry, which must juggle new features with the risk that they open up new problems. While the firewall problem the Netfilter programmers discovered is limited to a few versions of Linux, a more serious problem emerged earlier this month affecting numerous operating systems using standard network management software. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Testing mutt - please ignore this mail
by Abhir Joshi 03 Mar '02

03 Mar '02

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