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Kubuntu 8.10 on LG X110 [Installation Report]
by Rony 28 Feb '09

28 Feb '09

Hello, Today Kubuntu 8.10 was installed on the LG X110 netbook. Unlike Acer which has no recovery CD and uses a 20 GB hidden partition, LG's X110 comes with driver CDs and there is only one partition of 160 GB that's installed with Doze XP home. A Moserbayer DVD writer temporarily plugged into an external USB IDE HDD adapter was used as the external USB CD drive. After booting flawlessly into the Live session of Kubuntu 8.10, installation is pretty simple. When you come to the partitioning part, it stops at the first option to partition the disk 50-50 for Doze and Linux. Select your option and the rest of the installation is automatic. If you choose 50-50 then the first time you boot into Dose post installation, you will get a file system error and the scandisk option will pop up. Do not bypass it. Let it happen and it will restart the system after correcting the disk space entries. After that the system boots into doze normally. After installation run 'sudo apt-get update' and install multimedia support with 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras'. It is better to run this command in a terminal or gui terminal like konsole as the Java license agreement choices cannot be navigated properly through a GUI package manager like Adept, Synaptec etc. It will hang there. To add firefox3, simply use 'sudo apt-get install firefox'. Please note that Firefox 3 is a gnome package and it will download a bulk of gnome based support packages. For the webcam interface use 'sudo apt-get install luvcview' Luvcview is a nice software but the gui needs a little getting used to. Pictures clicked are good and in a raw format. You can later convert them into your favorite format. It does video recording too. While the Realtek LAN is up automatically, the Realtek wireless drivers need to be installed and that is done from this site http://julienpecqueur.com/tutoriaux/install_driverwifi.html The site is in French but the commands to be executed are in English so simply copy/paste them into a terminal. Remember, the 'uname -r' is to be replaced by the actual output of 'uname'r'. So do that first and make a note of it. Download the tarball and untar it using 'tar xzvf rtl8187se_linux_26.1023.0928.2008.tar.gz' then go ahead with the rest of the instructions. Basically you download the builder packages and build the drivers from the tarball. Then you save the modules into the respective locations. Bluetooth is still a gray area and hopefully it will get resolved soon. What is surprising is that peripherials like BT, Camera, Cardreader etc. do not show up in lspci. I will see if the output can be posted to the list. Maybe there is a patch in the Doze side to get these devices detected. Anyway the system is now up and running with Kubuntu 8.10 with LAN and Wireless support and Camera. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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proposed pycon india
by Kenneth Gonsalves 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

hi, bangpypers are discussing a proposal to hold an Indian pycon conference in september. If you are interested, please check out the bangpypers mailing list archives and the wiki: http://wiki.python.org/moin/ProposalForPyConIndia -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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Re-[Announce] Free Software camp for Ngo's and voluntary organizations, March 24-28, Madhya Pradesh India
by Rajeev Nair 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

Hi all. We are pleased to announce our 7th free software(FOSS) camp called Ngo in a Box for Ngo's and similar interest groups,scheduled to be held from March 24-28 in Madhya Pradesh India. This is a 5 day residential workshop and limited scholarships are available to select participants who will be provided with free training ,boarding and lodging. Full details and application forms are available at our website http://ngoinabox.mahiti.org Application deadline is March 5th 2009 so hurry up! All those on the list who have contacts in Ngo's can pass on this information to them. regards rajeev nair Project Coordinator Ngo in a Box - South Asia rajeev.nair(a)mahiti.org

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] A small suggestion
by Sanjay Singhvi 27 Feb '09

27 Feb '09

When I said my comp crashed I meant that when I "hit the button" all that happened was that the power led glowed - no display and no led even for the hard disk. However, it turned out that is was more my hopes that had crashed. The BIOS had got corrupted and a call to Acer helpline fixed that. The comp is up and about again. BTW +1 from me. Sanjay

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Security fix for webcams
by jtd 26 Feb '09

26 Feb '09

http://valhenson.livejournal.com/29588.html Mic is not fixed yet.. -- Rgds JTD

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connecting to gmail via imap over squid
by sameer shinde 26 Feb '09

26 Feb '09

Hi All, I'm using squid3.0 as our proxy server to serve the internet users, which is working fine. Now I want users to access IMAP(say gmail on imap) over my proxy. Can anyone let me know, How do I do this? Is there any way I can do it with squid? Is there any other way? So far what I've read on google is, as squid is an http proxy, it only supports http/ftp protocol. not fully for even https. Is there any other way to proxy remaining protocols like imap/imap4/pop3/smtp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sameer Shinde. M:- +91 98204 61580 Millions saw the apple fall, but Newton was the one who asked why.

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[Info] More Netbooks.
by Rony 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

Hello, This is just for everyones' information that more manufacturers have jumped into the netbook bandwagon and one such model is from LG. A client of mine bought it from Vijay Sales for 19K. Specs:- LG X110 10" screen 1.2 Kgs 2.5+ Hr batter life Atom Processor 945 Mobo 1 GB RAM 160 GB HDD 1.3 MP camera 3 USB 1 VGA LAN and Wireless (lspci showed them as Realtek devices and the wireless was not detected by Lenny Live) Bluetooth One MM card slot Speakers. Mic and H/P sockets Preloaded with doze home edition I found the screen to very bright but the camera was darkish, compared to the Aspire One. The dealer told him that the camera can be made bright through software settings but I have not tried it. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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wired internet still not working on Acer Aspire One with Kubuntu 8.10
by Sanjay Singhvi 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Dear All, I finally found this piece of information at the http://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne site. It says : Note Kernel 2.6.27-11 breaks the wired ethernet interface. Bug 313866 has been verified: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/313866 Add to the information to help. Revert to an earlier kernel to fix the wired interface for now. However, I managed to crash my laptop while trying out various ways to fix the problem. I am told by the Acer people that it is probably only a corruption of the BIOS and will have to start from putting in a new BIOS. But when I have my Kubuntu intrepid up, I will remember to revert to an earlier version of the kernel. Hope this helps others who have the Acer Aspire One. Regards, Sanjay Singhvi

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sarg howto
by sameer shinde 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Hi All, Can anyone provide me simple how-to for sarg. I'm searching on net, but not getting the appropriate documentation on sarg. I'm using following configuration on my proxy. Squid3.0 Stable1 + SquidGuard (for filtering) Now I want to pull out some reports of squid usage, so configuring SARG ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sameer Shinde. M:- +91 98204 61580 Millions saw the apple fall, but Newton was the one who asked why.

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RH cozing up to the big bully?
by jtd 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

M$ and RH have signed a deal of some sort. http://www.redhat.com/promo/svvp/ Saving grace is that there are no weasel words as yet. -- Rgds JTD

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Is it legal to use linux in a closed source VM was Re: Fwd: Everything is fine
by jtd 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

starting a new thread relevant to the content On Sunday 22 February 2009 06:07, Mohan Nayaka wrote: > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Nishit Dave > <stargazer.dave(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Enough, already! There's more to life than these petty issues, so > please stop beating them to beyond death. > > If you need to focus your energies on something, please try a more > constructive approach, like discussing how to convince a corporate > IT dept. To allow you to use Linux on your laptop (ours even > considers Is it allowed to install a closed-source ("legal") VM and put Linux in it? Yes afaik. But why would one want to do that. -- Rgds JTD

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[ILUG-Bom][ANNOUNCE]Installfest on 27th and 28th February
by Easwar Hariharan 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

Hello all, I intended to hold a demonstration and installfest of Ubuntu a few months ago,which didn't work out because the projector was unavailable.I plan to do the fest again,this time successfully, on 27th and 28th Feb,with the demo on 27th and installfest on 28th respectively.My (more) fleshed out plan follows,please tell me what you think of it. :) Demonstration: On 27th,I plan to set up 4-5 machines with Ubuntu 8.04[LTS] installed with eye candy and requisite non-free codecs and to attract people with compiz effects and natural curiosity and explain to them the various replacements for applications they use on Windows(TM).As Mehul has helpfully provided,we need to show them reasons to switch,which will be parallels for the applications they use on Windows(TM) Explain the features vis-a-vis Windows,career possibilities and use of GNU/Linux in universities and companies abroad.We organize an install fest next day for those interested. Installfest: I have 28 odd Ubuntu 8.04 32 bit CDs.I plan to install for those who bring their boxes and hand them a CD.If people can't bring their machines,ask them to check out the installation procedure,and hand out CDs. Also,planning to provide Fedora 10 installs for those who wish to try out a different distro. If I run out of CDs,I ask them [previous day]to bring their flash stick and create a bootable image on them,provided their boxes have USB boot capabilities.Also planning to keep a CD Writer handy. Where I need help in this plan is to arrange for the machines for the first day.I have presently arranged for 3 desktop machines,but a wide range of hardware is preferable. Hence,if anyone can get along laptops pre-installed with Linux or Sun VM machine, that'll be of help to me during the demonstration,because I would be sure all the hardware works with Linux(or at least know which hardware to skirt) and there will be no "Eh,this thing should have been working" moments.Ideally,I plan to have a range of specifications from low power to highly powered rigs. I also need experienced people to lend their expertise in framing how to speak to people who drop in to check out the machines on the first day. Therefore I invite willing members of ILUG-Bom to speak about GNU/Linux to people who are interested in finding out more after experiencing the Operating System. And,last but not least,I need to be pointed out holes in the plan,and help with patching them. Regards, Easwar Registered Linux user #442065

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Alternate broadband dialers illegal?
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

Hi, I had written a broadband dialer for sify (antidialer) some time back. during this time, sify decided to change its dialer protocol for unknown reasons and include some cryptography** in it. I wanted to know if it would be legal to reverse engineer the dialer (not necessarily disassemble it) or wireshark packets to analyze and try to write an alternate dialer for the new protocol. I'm asking this for the following reasons: 1) I am not using the dialer for unauthorized access -- it is simply an alternative means to login using a valid account. I have to do it because the linux dialer crashes before or after I login and the customer care has not been responsive to my complaints so far. 2) There is no EULA for which I have to click through when I use the Linux based dialer, so reverse engineering it should not be illegal right? 3) Someone had mentioned once on a forum (indiabroadband.com or something like that) a while back that it is illegal to "break" cryptography. If it is legal then I could go around attempting to understand and implement what the protocol does. **It's really some silly xor/reverse with MD5s from what I could understand so far. -- Siddhesh Poyarekar http://siddhesh.in

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kind attn Mrugesh, abt netbook distro
by Suhit Kelkar 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

Hi, thanks for your kind suggestion. has your model got a webcam and if so, which make? mine is a bisoncam, works w/the preinstalled gnulin, but don't know if the driver is proprietary. i'm just worried abt the foss compatibility of the webcam. suhit.

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response to the discussion about treatment of newbies
by Suhit Kelkar 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

I agree with the list member[s] who say[s] newbies should be treated respectfully. when i was a [greater] newbie, i had a bad experience on this list, a member was extremely rude to me. so i kept both myself and my suggestions away from the lug-meet that i had written to enquire about. i guess that is what that member wanted, anyway-- someone new is always threatening to the coterie. re the thread discussion about silly questions: lots of people, esp. from our cultural/educational atmosphere *cannot* absorb knowledge except through a conversation. they simply cannot parse the written word, esp in English-- there is a mental block, otherwise lack of confidence, or simply the necessity to think with the left brain that makes them manual-averse. here, the person is not someone necessarily lazy, stupid or mentally challenged. Suhit Kelkar.

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pl recommend good distro for MSI Wind Netbook U90
by Suhit Kelkar 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

hi, recently purchased MSI Wind U90 netbook; don't like the pre-installed gnulin. which distro goes well with this netbook, IYO? if anyone wants to drop me a line on this, will post the h/w specs etc. tks, pl help. suhit kelkar.

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Static IP Setup.
by Vinod Raghavan 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

Hello I use MTNL Triband connection, recently I applied for static IP and got one (59.185.196.123 [ just example ] ), does any one know how to set this ip static on my ADSL Router (iball 54M Wireless ADSL2+ Router, Model No.: iB-WR6111A) I also want to setup NAT on the Router to access my LAN from outside. this Router is capable but I tried many but not yet succeded. MTNL call center help was of no use, those guys just know basic dynamic setup. WAN side of router: ---------------------------- Static IP : 59.185.196.123 ( just example, not actual ) Mask : dont know GW : 59.184.191.254 LAN Side of router: --------------------------- IP : 192.168.1.1 Mask : 255.255.255.0 P DNS : 203.94.227.70 S DNS : 203.94.243.70 Any help Thanks Vinod Raghavan

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Alternate broadband diallers-- illegal?-- What the IT act says
by Suhit Kelkar 22 Feb '09

22 Feb '09

CAVEAT: i am not a lawyer, and this isn't legal advice. it is only meant to provoke further investigation. Hi, there's this section 43 of the Indian IT Act, 2000, which says in subsection b, that [any person who, *without the owner's permission*] ==quote== (b) downloads, copies or extracts any data, computer data base or information from such computer, computer system or computer network including information or data held or stored in any removable storage medium; ==end quote== [could stand to be fined to the tune of up to a crore rupees]. this is sufficiently vague for the authorities to screw people who have not been permitted by sify to work with their cryptography. of course, the law doesn't apply if your name is raju ;) best suhit kelkar.

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(no subject)
by Suhit Kelkar 22 Feb '09

22 Feb '09

hello, http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/FOSS_based_Cyber_Cafe this is a page on the glug-bom wiki. somebody has cut-pasted xxx links into it. a page full. hardy har har! Suhit Kelkar

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Fwd: Everything is fine [was] threads [was] [OT] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by Kenneth Gonsalves 22 Feb '09

22 Feb '09

I was requested to forward this. If Vid has been moderated for defending women's rights, it is a sad thing and a blow against freedom. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Everything is fine [was] threads [was] [OT] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn Date: Wednesday 18 February 2009 From: VidAyer <vid(a)svaksha.com> To: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)au-kbc.org>, Easwar Hariharan <meindian523(a)gmail.com>, Harsh Busa <harsh.busa(a)gmail.com> Hello, Request, could one of you please forward this "verbatim" to the ILUG-BOM list since I am on moderation. Thanks. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Rajeev R. K. <rajeevrk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Firstly, Dinesh, If you have to insult anyone ever, even if > provocation is provided, it's a sad thing. it's a really poor > communicator who cannot make his displeasure known without stooping to > insults. A witty and sarcastic barb is > much better, IMHO. And i wouldn't wish a virus on anyone. And VidAyer, > I guess you are bing a little belligerent... > This thread need not have gone on this long, should have died long > ago, and you know it. > > Well, at least it managed to wake me up :) Glad you did :) The thread and the responses is recurrent in most Indian LUG's and I can summarize them here : 1. Shutup and move on. I've heard that before Rajeev and its exactly what i did some years ago, went upstream to contribute and be more productive. It works just fine. 2. Local Lugs? Zilch. Nada. Nothing to see in your local LUG. (and this comes from men who contribute code, men who I've spoken to IRL, wrote to me off-list and what snippets from IRC). 3. Denial. "Nothing is wrong. Everything is fine here (read LUG)". Get labelled "belligerent", "militant feminist", etc .. (and i have logs collected over the years to prove this) because you called out a bully and said "stop bullying". Nice !! Women don't participate in LUG activities? Cant blame them, I would'nt either. 4. Crass humour. You said the same above with "A witty and sarcastic barb is much better, IMHO". Object and one gets a response : "It was a joke! Don't you have a sense of humour?". The gate-keepers are more intent on protecting "freedom of speech" for loud-mouths who have turned nastiness into an art form. 5. I'm a Geek. I'm first, you came in later. Remain in your place, woman !! This is a *our* space and you (women) have to be thick-skinned to tolerate bullying, name calling, intimidation, online stalking and personal attacks, usually indulged in by a very small subset of highly vocal individual(s). Never openly and always subtle. 6. Ignore. Another way to say #3.Everything is fine here. You are the problem. 7. Take it off-list. Another easy way to make it more difficult for her to prove she is being harassed since private conversations are just that. Private. Maintain the dense cloud of ambiguity. 8. Open. Our community already has <insert token number> women who are doing just great. The rest dont bother to show up, participate, make the effort. Something is wrong with the majority. 9. Celebrate boorish behaviour. Rinse. Repeat. Result : Why waste time jumping over loops. Easier to stay away. Libre software does *not* demand contribution from all. Those who do volunteer, do it because they care or want to. You dont need to recognise that but telling them to "shutup" and "ignore problems" is neither polite nor helpful. And this "staying away" is not restricted to women and has nothing to do with gender. Men stay away too. Folks can adopt an ostrich-like attitude, because Everything_IS_Fine, really !! Thanks for all the fish !! Vid, .. who un-subscribes, yet again. ------------------------------------------------------- -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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a small suggestion
by Harsh Busa 21 Feb '09

21 Feb '09

List has been really old and there are several members who might have subscribed and forgotten or lost interest. We are seeing huge number of unwanted emails The list is for serious people who want to help and want to be helped ( thats the objective, pls dont debate the current state ) Can we have all list members confirm their membership once again so that people who are not serious and do not reply in X number of days can unsubscribed with due notification / reminder whatever process ? Because here we are not looking for number of members we are looking for quality. Also for members who willingly / accidentally spam the list with invites should be removed from the list and if they are serious about being around can join back with an explanation instead of going into a loop and eventually fighting Also it will be appreciated if the list owners will redistribute the list guidelines for the benefit of fellow members and include relevant suggestions from other members. These are only my suggestion. I encourage list admins to think about them and members to reply simple Vote + 1 / - 1 or list admins to setup a poll. If you have serious objections to what I have said please complain to list admins and do not discuss on the list. -- __________________________ http://harsh.busa.in/

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folks, I need help with testing Indian calendars in KDE
by Praveen A 21 Feb '09

21 Feb '09

Hi, I would appreciate if anyone can confirm this bug and respond to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185093 I'm almost done with the saka calendar, but now the calendar applet itself seems to be broken for all calendars except gregorian. I suspect it is because of the introduction of holidays feature. btw holidays is a nice feature to have. - Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] a small suggestion
by Dinesh Dalvi 21 Feb '09

21 Feb '09

>These are only my suggestion. I encourage list admins to think about them >and members to reply simple Vote + 1 / - 1 or list admins to setup a poll my vote +1 Dinesh Dalvi

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Happy Glugging !
by Aanjhan R 21 Feb '09

21 Feb '09

[snip] Dear Luggies, I have been tracking this list through the archives and just subscribed to inform you guys the following. I have noticed that the subject of the "most informative discussion" has been changed more than 4 times and this is not leading anywhere. Infact you guys just lost the chance to beat the World ML Record of most responses to a thread by 133 replies. So in the future please use at-least this subject and provide your most valuable inputs so that we could hit the world record. Thanks and Best Regards, Aanjhan -- PS: Thanks to all those who are giving me a wonderful "Coffee with ILUG BOM Mailing List" experience.

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Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by !sub1779＠yahoo.com! Looking for change [MyLink500.com 2600+] 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

LinkedIn ------------ !sub1779(a)yahoo.com! Looking for change [MyLink500.com 2600+] requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: ------------------------------------------ shirish, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - !sub1779(a)yahoo.com! View invitation from !sub1779(a)yahoo.com! Looking for change [MyLink500.com 2600+] http://www.linkedin.com/e/XtUPYpobvtXdWSBueu6egzFzVxklUEDogtUWQpr9bh/blk/10… ------------------------------------------ DID YOU KNOW you can showcase your professional knowledge on LinkedIn to receive job/consulting offers and enhance your professional reputation? Posting replies to questions on LinkedIn Answers puts you in front of the world's professional community. http://www.linkedin.com/e/abq/inv-24/ ------ (c) 2009, LinkedIn Corporation

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