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Ilug-bom.org.in Domain
by Anurag 02 Jan '06

02 Jan '06

Hello all, Our domain name, ilug-bom.org.in has been successfully transferred to DirectI and has been renued for next 5 year period. The other domain name, "glug-bom.org" will also continute to operate seamlessly along with current domain. I would like to take this opportunity to thank Mr. Abhishek Daga, Anand MR and JTD for their contributions towards domain name renual fees. I would also like to thank the team at HBCSE, TIFR for administering the servers and for sponsoring hardware and bandwidth for the community. Anurag -- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ n. (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.

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Linux compatible AMD64 motherboard...
by DJ 01 Jan '06

01 Jan '06

Hi, One of my friends wants to go in for a new system. He is keen on dualbooting with Linux and Windows. He is going in for an AMD64 3000+ system. He asked me to recommend a good compatible motherboard with moderate to high performance. I am a complete newbie to AMD systems. I have a sempron system but I am clueless about which motherboards are available for AMD64 let alone the good ones compatible with Linux... Anyone with an AMD64 system please respond. PS.: I heard that AMD64 is based on different cores. Which core should he get? Also what should be the operating frequency of the DDR RAM he buys? 333MHz or 400MHz or should he go in for a DDR2? I know that the CPUs FSB and the RAM's OF should be in sync for optimum performance. What is it for an AMD64 system? -- Dinesh A. Joshi

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Using Samsung SP0802N hard disk with ASUS K8V-MX mobo
by Philip Tellis 01 Jan '06

01 Jan '06

If you need to run the above two pieces of hardware together, and notice frequent disk lockups, consider reading this: http://bluesmoon.blogspot.com/2005/12/using-samsung-sp0802n-and-asus-k8v-mx… Philip

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Interesting output
by agencies_ad1＠sancharnet.in 31 Dec '05

31 Dec '05

Hello, du of lastlog reports 120K size ls of lastlog reports 38M [root@c-106 root]# du -sh /var/log/lastlog 120K /var/log/lastlog [root@c-106 root]# ls -lah /var/log/lastlog -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 38M Dec 30 13:30 /var/log/lastlog Why du and ls reporting differnt size of the same file? Thanks Regards, Komal ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using NWebmail, BSNL's Webmail Program

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Logrotate Question
by Karia Amit 31 Dec '05

31 Dec '05

Hi All, I saw var/log/messages few dayz back in my server, Today wen i saw it again i came to know that the name was changed to messages.1 , I have not configured logrotate or syslog neither have i restated syslog deamon, Would like to know why was the name changed rgds Amit

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[COMMERCIAL] Freelance Perl Programmer Required
by Rohan R. Almeida 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

Hi, Anyone with a minimum of six months experience in Perl looking for a two month contract, please contact me. You would be required to work at the client's premises. Thanks, Rohan

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Linux kernel.
by Mukund Deshmukh 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

Hi, What would be size of smallest Linux kernel? Yes, I mean plain vanilla with only bootup message on console. Best Regards, Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd, 10/1, IT Park, Parsodi, Nagpur-440022 Cell - 9422113746

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Accessing NTFS Partition
by Chirag Wazir 29 Dec '05

29 Dec '05

Hi, > From: "Karia Amit" <amit_karia99(a)rediffmail.com> > Can any one tell me how to access(mount) ntfs partition of remote > windows server into RHEL3 Server, NTFS module is compiled to my > machine as a module You need to use the samba client. The NTFS module is irrelevant in this case. The remote windows partition needs to be shared and then you can do something like: smbmount //winmachine/share /localdir -o username=amit,password=xyz Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org

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Accessing NTFS Partition
by Karia Amit 28 Dec '05

28 Dec '05

Hi All, Can any one tell me how to access(mount) ntfs partition of remote windows server into RHEL3 Server, NTFS module is compiled to my machine as a module rgds Amit

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RHCE tops CertCities.com’s 10 Hottest Certifications for 2006
by Venkatesh Hariharan 28 Dec '05

28 Dec '05

This article tracks which certifications are likely to be hot in 2006 and the RHCE certification topped the list. Interesting comment at the end of this article on the demand for Linux professionals outstripping the demand for general Microsoft administration skills. Venky http://www.certcities.com/editorial/features/story.asp?EditorialsID=95 #1: Red Hat Certified Engineer Vendor: Red Hat Reader Interest Score (out of 20): 17 Buzz Score (out of 10): 8 Total: 25 If you're looking for yet another sign that Linux is becoming a real player, then you've got it. While Linux certifications have regularly made our Hot Cert list over the past few years -- in fact, the RCHE has appeared on this list since we started it for 2002 -- this is the first time one has ever taken the top spot. Quite a feat, especially when you consider that the vast majority of CertCities.com's readers are Windows professionals. So how did this Linux title break through to No. 1? Having a stellar reputation never hurts, and Red Hat is well known for the quality of its RHCE lab exam, which tests candidates' hands-on skills with Red Hat Enterprise. "It's a truly challenging certification," commented Dulaney. "It carries a lot more respect than others in the market." But the title wouldn't go anywhere unless its skills were seen as marketable. And according to Morris, high-level Linux skills may be more marketable than some might think. "These days…it seems that demand for a great Linux person outstrips the demand for general Microsoft administration skills," commented Morris. "Not that Microsoft is going anyplace, but serious Linux networking is more [rare]. While [this is] not my personal area of interest, I highly recommend that others look at it with keen interest." http://www.certcities.com/editorial/features/story.asp?EditorialsID=95

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synchronizing samba and kerberos password
by Senthil 27 Dec '05

27 Dec '05

we have a kerberos and samba server running in our lab for authenticating the linux and windows user respectively. both use openldap 2.2.23 as the backend. The problem is we need to synchronize the password in both kerberos and samba. we tried including an overlay called smbk5pwd that comes with openldap3. but we were not able to do that. How do we include smbk5pwd in openldap2.2.23 ? is there any other solution for synchronizing the password in samba and kerberos. we are using MIT kerberos V -- S.Senthil Kumaran blog : http://sskganesan.blogspot.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux kernel.
by JTD 27 Dec '05

27 Dec '05

n Tuesday 27 December 2005 10:57, Mukund Deshmukh wrote: > Hi, > What would be size of smallest Linux kernel? > Yes, I mean plain vanilla with only bootup message on console. afaik 650KB. Uclinux would be substantially smaller. > > Best Regards, > Beta Computronics Pvt Ltd, > 10/1, IT Park, Parsodi, > Nagpur-440022 > Cell - 9422113746

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Venue for January 14th meet.
by Rony Bill 27 Dec '05

27 Dec '05

Hello Everyone, The venue for the Linux meet on January 14 has been chosen as Five Gardens at Matunga. Please give your feedback for the same. Open source meet under the open sky. :) Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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Realtek rtl 8139
by Puneet Lakhina 26 Dec '05

26 Dec '05

I have a relatek rtl 8139 based zebronics ethernet card after a lot of struggle i manged to obtain the drivers that compiled properly. But after doing depmod as the readme file said, what do i do next.. I use fc2, i have tried using wizards that come with fc2 as m a newbie, but that says the device is probably not there although it works fine m$ I have tried googling but havent found anything that would solve my problem. -- Puneet

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Umbrella Installation Software
by Puneet Lakhina 25 Dec '05

25 Dec '05

Hi all, Does there exist a sort of umbrella installation mechanism that could take care of the specific ways of installing various software distribution mechanisms. I mean if the software is a tar file it should extract it, and then provide me with a dialog box for configure script flags and execute make and make install. Or for rpms it should execut the command rpm with appropriate flags. If it does not exist do you think there is any merit in trying to build one?? I know its just a gui for certain commands but if it helps non-programmer users why not?? -- Puneet

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Squid proxy with multiple gateways.
by Nadeem M. Khan 24 Dec '05

24 Dec '05

Dear all, One of my colleagues is having a problem with his squid proxy running on RH9 with two ethernet cards.. He isn't a member of this list so I asked him to forward his problem to me. The mail that he sent me follows. I would appreciate your help. ---- My proxy IP eth0 ip is 10.124.24.48 Sub :255.255.248.0 Default gateway :10.124.24.1 My ISP network is 220.227.114.170 sub net :255.255.255.248 default gateway :220.227.114.169 I have configured squid proxy in it and whenever i configure both the gateways the squid does not work. Actually to get the internet accessed from other offices i need my private gateway to be configured in squid machine. so pls give me a solution. ---- Regards, NMK. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows: Designed for the Internet. The Internet: Designed for Unix.

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Top 10 directories eating up your hard-disk space
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 24 Dec '05

24 Dec '05

Interesting mail: From: Sukrit D <sukritd(a)gmail.com> On the PondyLUG: p_lug(a)yahoogroups.com Message of the day Find out top 10 directories eating up your disk space: du -cksh * | sort -rn | head -10 JOIN THE PONDICHERRY LUG http://groups.yahoo.com/group/p_lug -- ------------------------------------------------------------- | India Linux Users' Group, Goa | | Join the friendly user group | | Mail list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa/join | ---------------------------------------------------------- | | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teach-yourself-linux | | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa-announce | | http://www.iosn.net/country/india/organizations/ilug-goa/ | ------------------------------------------------------------- , , / \ .-. * SOFTWARE ((__-^^-,-^^-__)) (. .) * FREEDOM `-_---' `---_-' / V \ * SHARING `--|o` 'o|--' // \\ \ ` / /( )\ KNOWLEDGE IS POWER ): :( '.^^_^^.' SHARE IT EQUITABLY :o_o: \_/ \_/ "-"

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Fwd: [Ilugc] All FSUGs/GLUGs IRC Meet: Jan 1, 2006
by nipra 24 Dec '05

24 Dec '05

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k(a)yahoo.com> Date: Dec 23, 2005 1:35 PM Subject: [Ilugc] All FSUGs/GLUGs IRC Meet: Jan 1, 2006 To: ilugc(a)ae.iitm.ac.in Cc: fsf-tn(a)gnu.org.in Greetings! There were discussions in Indian GNU/Linux Users' Group, Mumbai on where to have the January month's meeting. I had an idea. What if all our FSUGs/GLUGs members from all over India meet together, online?. How would it be if we all meet in the beginning of the New Year? After discussion with the channel ops, I am happy to call for an all-India FSUGs/GLUGs members meet on January 1, 2006 at 1500 hrs IST at #gnu-india on irc.freenode.net. No agenda as such. The idea is to get to meet folks from different FSUGs/GLUGs, get to know what FSUGs/GLUGs have been and are working on, free software ideas/suggestions/plans/activities for 2006. I will broadcast this message to as many FSUGs/GLUGS that I am member of and that I know of. Please feel free to spread the word. Thanking you all and looking forward to meeting you all, SK (a.k.a mbuf on irc.freenode.net) -- Shakthi Kannan, MS Software Engineer, Hexaware Technologies [E]: cyborg4k(a)yahoo.com [M]: (91) 98407-87007 [W]: http://www.shakthimaan.com [L]: Chennai, India __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-request(a)ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe <password> <address>" in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

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[COMMERCIAL] Job Vacancy
by TAC Forums 24 Dec '05

24 Dec '05

Hello, We, The Argon Company, are located in Fort, Mumbai and are looking for people in Mumbai. Experience: Fresher Knowledge: LAMP and knowledge in C is a plus. Minimum Qualification: Degree in Bachelor of Science or Engineering preferred. Job Description: Integration (Installation, Configuration and Development) of Open Source applications Those interested in applying please send your resume to jobs(a)theargoncompany.com. The Argon Company

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 32, Issue 69
by Sushant Gulati 24 Dec '05

24 Dec '05

hello everybody, can anybody help me out with understanding the vast code of Linux kernel? Any starting points, or guides, tutorials, just anything for a beginner like me. I hav started with "the kernel hacker guide" but i know that wont be enough. Warm regards, Sushant __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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xine installation problem
by neelam 24 Dec '05

24 Dec '05

hi i did install libxine1-1.1.2cvs-051214.i686.rpm and xine-ui-0.99.4cvs-051003.i586.rpm for xine but when i tried to invoke xine this is wht i see at command line - xine: /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0: version `GLIBC_2.3.2' not found (required by /usr/lib/libxine.so.1) Although the lib mentioned above is present on my system at the same location mentioned above then why the problem? Pls guide on the same my system is redhat-8 (linux 2.4.18-14) regards __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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An intro paper on SE Linux
by Arun K. Khan 23 Dec '05

23 Dec '05

FWIW, an intro paper to SE Linux; thought it might be useful to list members as it was discussed a few days ago. http://www.it-observer.com/pdf/dl/demystifying_selinux.pdf -- Arun Khan Linux is like a wigwam - no gates, no windows, apache inside

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] linking a single library file in GCC
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Infra, Energy) 23 Dec '05

23 Dec '05

>I want to test it in Linux now. And in the Linux version of >the library, there are two files, 'dislin-9.0.a' and >'dislin-9.0.so' - which library file am I supposed to link >to? And how do link to a single file, from the command line? AFAIK (and I don't know that much.. Please flame me if I'm wrong) .a = static library - inserted into your binary .so = shared lib - called by your binary for linking i think gcc has a switch. the command line help should do Gishu

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linking a single library file in GCC
by rohit bhute 22 Dec '05

22 Dec '05

This involves the Dislin library I mentioned in an earlier mail. I used it earlier in Dev-C++ using Mingw. In that case case, I simply added the file 'dismgc.a' in the Linker parameters window. I want to test it in Linux now. And in the Linux version of the library, there are two files, 'dislin-9.0.a' and 'dislin-9.0.so' - which library file am I supposed to link to? And how do link to a single file, from the command line? Both the library files, the header file and the source file are in the same directory. I'm using Ubuntu 5.10, it has GCC 4.0.2. -- Rohit V. Bhute http://rvbhute.blogspot.com/

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New domain name: glug-bom.org
by Anurag 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

Hello, Our current domain name ``ilug-bom.org.in'' expires on <28-Feb-2006>, and will not be renued this time around, due to administrative problems with registration of .IN domain names. A new domain called ``glug-bom.org'' has been registered, and will point to the same services with effect from this sunday. However, till the ``ilug-bom.org.in'' domain expires, both domains will continue to function. It is a good idea to update your address books, email filters and bookmarks now, so that the transitiion will be smooth. Anurag -- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ n. (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix. question = ( to ) ? be : ! be;

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Tata indicom wi-fi service - does it work on Linux?
by TAC Forums 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

Hey Guys I'm hearing about Tata Indicom's new Wi-Fi service. They provide a PCMCIA Wi-Fi CDMA card that allows you to make calls and be connected to the Internet 24x7 from anywhere. They say it supports Windows 98 SE, ME, 2000 and XP. Anyone tried it on Linux yet? Any inputs / feedback on the same, please let us know. Thanks -- TAC Support Team

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Ubuntu 5.10 Nvidia driver install problem
by आनंद (Anand M R) 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

Has anyone faced a problem with installing the Nvidia drivers on ubuntu 5.10 I have an Intel 815 mobo (integrated graphics), but I'm using the AGP slot with GeForce 2 MX 400. When i try to install the driver using "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" (as in ubuntuguide.org) everything installs ...but then when i restart x (ctrl+alt+backspace) or restart the comp ... the machine reboots at the point when x is trying to come up. So then i tried installing the official nvidia drivers. Since it didnt have precompiled module for the kernel (i'm using the one that came with 5.10) it build it (i downloaded gcc 3.4 for that and kernel headers), but the same thing happens again. Every time it tries to start x it reboots. I could do with some help here. Anand.

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Evolution - mail disappeared
by Sanket Medhi 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

I recently decided using Evolution Mail. I downloaded all my mail (over 2k messages) from my GMail account and marked then Read. All the messages disappeared immediately. However, a day later when I tried to search for a mail I figured out there is no way to view the Read messages. I can see that the downloaded messages are still there in my Inbox, but I just can't view them. Evolution users, plese help me out with this. Thanks! -- Regards, Sanket Medhi.

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[commercial] Computer books for Sale
by Akshay Salkar 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

Dear All, I have some good books for sale. Discount for New books ranging from 20%-25% approx. off the normal price. Old Books at discount more than 40%-60% approx. off the normal price. BOOKS ON C AND C++ : 1) Write TSR's now - Ras - Rs. 75 2) Professional Linux Programming - Mathews - Rs. 410 - Wrox 3) Understanding Pointers in C - Kanetkar - Rs. 113 4) ObjectOriented Software Engineering - Haladay - Rs. 150 BRAND NEW: (Costs after Discount) 1) Teach yourself UML in 24 hours - Schmuler - Rs. 113 2) Java Software Solutions - Lewis - Rs. 260 3) Write TSR's now - Ras - Rs. 75 4) Problems in General Physics - Irodov - Rs. 113 5) Programming Perl 3/e - Wall - Rs. 450 6) Professional Linux Programming - Mathews - Rs. 410 - Wrox 7) Professional PHP - Wrox Edition - Rs.350 8) Apache Web Server - Rs. 120 SECOND HAND: (Costs after Discount) 1) Teach yourself HTML4 in 24 hours - Oliver/Holshwag - Rs. 80 - Techmedia 2) Mastering Foxpro 2.5 Special Edition - Siegel - Rs. 100 - BPB 3) ObjectOriented Software Engineering - Haladay - Rs. 150 4) Understanding Pointers in C - Kanetkar - Rs. 113 5) Using Linux - Gunter - Rs. 270 6) DNS & Bind - Liu - Rs.100 - Oreilly anybody wanting any of the above books plz. contact me at email : akshaysalkar(a)gmail.com or telephone on Mobile: 9821599801 akshay.

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curious convention
by Mohan Nayaka 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

I've noticed this before, but what is this convention of enclosing certain terms in error messages,etc within quotes like this ` and ' eg. from limits.h /* Minimum and maximum values a `signed short int' can hold. */ I even noticed this in the halloween documents. Any ideas ? Regards, Mohan S N

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BSNL Broadband donfiguration on suse10
by swapnil kamble 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

Hi , I am Swapnil kamble . I am using SuSE 10 , and I want to configure my BSNL Broadband on Suse10 . So is there anyone who has done it, or know how to do it please reply me. Thanks. -- ...Swapnil

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boot error
by Nikhil Prabhakar 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

Hi, After installing a kernel image on my Debian GNU/Linux system I'm getting following error while booting with the new kernel. [drm: i830_wait_ring] *ERROR* space 131056 wanted 131064 [drm: i830_wait_ring] *ERROR* lockup Regards Nikhil Prabhakar

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PostgreSQL on GFS
by Komal 18 Dec '05

18 Dec '05

Hi, I'm interested in having PostgreSQL on top of GFS. Anyone has tried to do this? What is the performance like? Is there any gotchas? Thank you. Regards, Komal

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(no subject)
by Karia Amit 18 Dec '05

18 Dec '05

HI All, I want to divert all my https traffic to Proxy (443 to 3128) thru iptables, I tried google's description but din't work Also want to know how to forward packets from server to a device which is in different network Plz help.. Rgds Amit

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RE: [OT] [ILUG-BOM] [commercial] Need Linuxers
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Infra, Energy) 18 Dec '05

18 Dec '05

> I represent one of the leading linux based companies in Mumbai. We are What is the name of this firm ? > Requirements: Experience in Qt and C++ (1-3 years) in linux environment. Knowledge of servers like DHCP/Apache/SSH a very big plus. Must be self-driven and enthusiatic. Yet to meet an enthusiastic programmer who's been in the trenches for more than two years. btw self-driven has a very PHB feel about it.. You are gonna pay them right ? :) Anything open for freshers ? -- Gishu

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] codecoolies meet
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Infra, Energy) 18 Dec '05

18 Dec '05

>> > interested??? >> > http://codecoolies.in >> >> I thought it was going to be called HackerGoshthi :) >the name is open - problem is that there was so much argument about >the name that the setting up of the wiki was being delayed >-- >regards >kg Funny/Sad but true.. here's something I read yesterday <quote> NARAYANA MURTHY : We value knowledge as the most intangible asset. However, the important question now is, Is it really paying? There has to be a greater premium on time. We waste lot much of it in discussions. One of my friends from Harvard aptly quoted, “Two of my greatest challenges are – How to get my Japanese students to speak up and Indian students to shut up”. We have to come to conclusion out of discussions and get to execution.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] flame wars
by Vivek Rai 18 Dec '05

18 Dec '05

> Linus but because he has pointed out correctly that GNOME sucks at > functionality. What makes the M$ UI so easy to use is that there are a > zillion ways to arrive at the the same result. *Here* the path taken > from the starting point to the ending point matters a lot. I personally prefer KDE too, but niether KDE nor gnome are perfect. KDE is better suited for advanced users, and is far too bloated than it needs to be. (in fact, KDE developers themselves recognize this, and are now working towards simplifying a lot of interfaces for future releases, theres a whole simpleKDE project as well) Gnome is the other extreme, its ideas of "Less is More" and KISS are fine in principle, and probably good for a newbie user. But, they tend to use this as an excuse for NOT providing functionality. My ideal desktop would be something in between A) Not clutter up every window and menu with a million options. Keep the basic, frequently used ones in the main display areas. (KDE's problem) B) Still have "Advanced" options accessible somewhere. (Gnome's problem)

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flame wars
by Kenneth Gonsalves 18 Dec '05

18 Dec '05

nice to know that even big guys indulge ;-) http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க!

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ILUG meet report.
by Rony Bill 17 Dec '05

17 Dec '05

Hello Everyone, The report for today's ILUG-BOM meet has been posted on the meetup site. Please follow the link below. :) http://linux.meetup.com/371/boards/view/viewthread?thread=1611128 The next venue will be Five Gardens at Matunga on 14th January at 4.00 PM. Exact garden location will be posted later. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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Open Source Software distribution.
by GT 17 Dec '05

17 Dec '05

hi all, I joined this list pretty recently, and already feel that users face problems in procuring Open Source Softwares. And as I understand downloading from internet can be a very painstaking experience, for most of people. Being a linux and open-source enthusiast myself, I am offering my services to everyone who feels like having some help at hand. If one is ready to bear the cost of the _Physical media_ (CD/DVD/Flash drive/HDD :) ) just ask me for _any_ open source ware covered under GPL, and you will get it. Feel free to call me at 9323804279 for any Open Source need:) cheers! Gaurav

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Using [GNU]Linux with Kids from 3 to 7 -- an introduction
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 17 Dec '05

17 Dec '05

The Community-Linux Training Centre: Practice Briefing 2 Using Linux with Kids from 3 to 7 – an introduction By the Free Range Comunity-Linux Training Centre Project, CLTC-P02, version 1.1, December 2004. email: fraw(a)gn.apc.org web: http://www.fraw.org.uk/cltc/ Using computers with kids can be problematic. On Windows machines problems arise when they start fooling around with system files or donâ €™t respond appropriately to warning messages. By contrast, the greater security provided by Linux means kids can play, largely unsupervised, with little risk to the system. This briefing looks at various aspects of using Linux with kids – both in terms of software and playing with hardware. Gnu/Linux is a really good computer operating system – especially if you like playing with networks or programming languages. But there is one area where both the resources available with Linux distributions, and the efforts of the Linux support community to provide assistance, are a little thin – using Linux with young children. This briefing has been developed to address this shortfall in support. The development of this briefing has not been a formal study. It has emerged as a result of the experience gained in studying how two young children (right) have been able to learn how to use the computer, and the functions of the graphical desktop. What follows is therefore a documentation of the knowledge gained from observation rather than an in-depth study. It is also the reason why this briefing is limited to the ages three to seven. However, it is hoped that the idea presented here will spawn other projects to provide support for the use of Gnu/Linux with young children.... http://www.fraw.org.uk/pubs/cltcpb/cltc_pb-02.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Frederick Noronha 784 Near Convent, Sonarbhat SALIGAO GOA India Independent Journalist TEL: +91-832-2409490 MOBILE: 9822122436 [] Check out my bookmarks at http://del.icio.us/fredericknoronha ... [] Links to many subjects, specially Free Software in education. -- Copylefted. Knowledge is power; share it equitably! -----------------

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 32, Issue 57
by Vivek Rai 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

> > > >> org.in is about 400 bucks a year > > I will be willing and glad to help.

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Multiple errors ? hardware related
by spavri＠vsnl.com 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

Hi, Sorry for the somewhat vague subject. also sorry for the rotten formatting, I am using webmail just now. I have a new (as in a couple of months old) machine. The specs are: 2.4 G P4, i845 integrated graphics card, 512 ram, 500 mb swap, 80G hdd, 15 inch Sony tft monitor. I have FC4 and Kubuntu 5.10 on the machine. The problem I face is that every once in a while, the X server crashes. In FC4 I am back at the graphical login prompt. In kubuntu I just lose the display completely and I have to shutdown. This can happen as frequently as once evry 5 or 10 minutes :( Sometimes I get kernel panic messages when the Xserver crashes. Another thing is that in FC4, both Firefox (upgraded to 1.0.7 from fedora updates) and Opera crash very frequently. Also Gkrellm crashes suddenly. I goolged for Xsever crashes w/ i845 on google. It seems to be an old problem (end 2004). The solution was to recompile the kernel to include the i915 driver, but it is already in the kernel and is seen as being found in Xorg.log. free shows 0 swap though the entries in /etc/fstab are correct. On bootup it does show as enabling swap. I am at my wits' end, the hardware chappie as usual is no help. I've run memtest but with no errors coming up. I can provide any more info as required. regards, Sharukh.

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Wherez the meet?
by Navin Dhanuka 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

Hi, Wherez the meet ? -- Navin Dhanuka Homepage & Blog @ http://www.navin.ind.in ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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error - missing config.h in kernel sources
by हष॑ल (Harshal) 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

hi, i am trying to upgrade the driver e1000. for which i have to rpmbuild the driver to make an rpm. this is what i did, i am runnig kernel version, 2.6.14 (installed via rpm running on FC4) then i downloaded latest e1000 drivers sources from intel's website. then i did, rpmbuild -tb e1000-6.2.15.tar.gz gave me an error that version.h is missing, googled for it, and got the answer, had to do, make include/linux/version.h in kernel sources dir. but after that if i again give that, rpmbuild -tb e1000-6.2.15.tar.gz gives me following error, make: Entering directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/e1000-6.2.15/src' Makefile:101: *** Linux kernel source not configured - missing config.h. Stop. make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/e1000-6.2.15/src' error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.39817 (%build) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.39817 (%build) I tried searching for what this missing config.h is. but in vein and hence this post. any help is badly needed. Thanks

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Problem with printer in Debian sarge
by mehul 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

Hi friends, Today I tried to configure my printer - Canon znu i255.Debian found the printer properly.For installing drivers I searched the net and found some drivers for i250. This is the output I get when I type make:- make all-recursive make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mehul/Desktop/Downloads/bjfilter-2.3-0' Making all in src make[2]: Entering directory `/home/mehul/Desktop/Downloads/bjfilter-2.3-0/src' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../include/cncl -I../include/misc -O2 -c bjfilter.c bjfilter.c:30:18: popt.h: No such file or directory In file included from bjfilter.c:45: bjfimage.h:31:20: tiffio.h: No such file or directory In file included from bjfilter.c:45: bjfimage.h:93: error: syntax error before "TIFF" bjfimage.h:93: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union bjfimage.h:114: error: syntax error before '}' token bjfimage.h:114: warning: data definition has no type or storage class bjfimage.h:117: error: syntax error before "char" bjfimage.h:118: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration bjfimage.h:119: error: syntax error before "char" bjfimage.h:120: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration bjfimage.h:121: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration bjfimage.h:122: error: syntax error before "short" bjfimage.h:123: error: syntax error before "long" bjfimage.h:124: error: syntax error before "long" bjfimage.h:125: error: syntax error before "short" bjfimage.h:126: error: syntax error before "short" bjfimage.h:127: error: syntax error before "double" In file included from bjfilter.c:50: bjfilter.h:46: error: syntax error before "BJF_IMAGEINFO" bjfilter.h:46: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union bjfilter.h:57: error: syntax error before '}' token bjfilter.h:57: warning: data definition has no type or storage class bjfilter.c:67: error: syntax error before "LPCNCLPAPERSIZE" bjfilter.c:69: error: syntax error before "LPBJFLTDEVICE" bjfilter.c:71: error: syntax error before "lpbjfinfo" bjfilter.c:72: error: syntax error before "lpbjfinfo" bjfilter.c:73: error: syntax error before "lpbjfinfo" bjfilter.c:74: error: syntax error before "lpbjfinfo" bjfilter.c: In function `main': bjfilter.c:129: error: syntax error before "lpbjinfo" bjfilter.c:153: error: `lpbjinfo' undeclared (first use in this function) bjfilter.c:153: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once bjfilter.c:153: error: for each function it appears in.) bjfilter.c:153: error: syntax error before "malloc" bjfilter.c:156: error: syntax error before "lpbjinfo" bjfilter.c:156: error: syntax error before "lpbjinfo" bjfilter.c:156: error: syntax error before "lpbjinfo" bjfilter.c:156: error: syntax error before "lpbjinfo" bjfilter.c:156: error: syntax error before ')' token bjfilter.c: At top level: bjfilter.c:383: error: syntax error before "lpbjinfo" bjfilter.c: In function `MakeBJPrintData': bjfilter.c:426: error: `lpbjfltdevice' undeclared (first use in this function) bjfilter.c:436: error: `lpbjinfo' undeclared (first use in this function) bjfilter.c:491: error: `lpcnclpapersize' undeclared (first use in this function) bjfilter.c:625: error: `lpbjfltcolor' undeclared (first use in this function) bjfilter.c: At top level: bjfilter.c:1176: error: syntax error before "lpbjinfo" bjfilter.c: In function `set_position_parameter': bjfilter.c:1182: error: `lpbjinfo' undeclared (first use in this function) bjfilter.c:1218: error: `lpcnclpapersize' undeclared (first use in this function ) bjfilter.c:1220: error: `lpbjfcom' undeclared (first use in this function) bjfilter.c: At top level: bjfilter.c:1344: error: syntax error before "lpbjfinfo" bjfilter.c: In function `SetPrinterFd': bjfilter.c:1346: error: `lpbjfinfo' undeclared (first use in this function) bjfilter.c: At top level: bjfilter.c:1350: error: syntax error before "lpbjfinfo" bjfilter.c: In function `ForkLgmon': bjfilter.c:1352: error: `modelname' undeclared (first use in this function) bjfilter.c:1353: error: `dispname' undeclared (first use in this function) bjfilter.c:1363: error: `lpbjfinfo' undeclared (first use in this function) bjfilter.c: At top level: bjfilter.c:1396: error: syntax error before "lpbjfinfo" bjfilter.c: In function `WaitLgmon': bjfilter.c:1401: error: `isPrint' undeclared (first use in this function) bjfilter.c:1404: error: `lpbjfinfo' undeclared (first use in this function) bjfilter.c: At top level: bjfilter.c:1415: error: syntax error before "lpbjfinfo" bjfilter.c: In function `WaitPrintUi': bjfilter.c:1419: error: `lpbjfinfo' undeclared (first use in this function) make[2]: *** [bjfilter.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mehul/Desktop/Downloads/bjfilter-2.3-0/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mehul/Desktop/Downloads/bjfilter-2.3-0' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 ============================================ I even tried to install some drivers that are presented by debian. But, using those drivers, the print jobs are sent to print queues and it shows as completed though the printer hasn't even responded. I even tried logging in as root and trying all this out as an last ditch attempt before posting here.

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codecoolies meet
by Kenneth Gonsalves 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

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Splitting A DVD image
by Puneet Lakhina 16 Dec '05

16 Dec '05

hi all, Is there anyway i can split a DVD iso image of a distro onto a number of CDs so that the anaconda or whatever installer automatically asks for the next disk as it normally does. Thanks, Puneet

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Easier Path to GNU/Hurd
by (रेवंत) Revan t Nandgaonkar 15 Dec '05

15 Dec '05

Should I install GNU/hurd from Debians Distro CD, which they released on 25th Oct, 2005. Will it be easier than installing crosshurd? revant

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[Commercial] [OT] Require old PCs- P1/P2/P3s
by Abhishek Daga 15 Dec '05

15 Dec '05

Hi, I am looking to get some old/used PCs. Here are the basic specs I am looking for: P1/P2/P3/Celeron 500 Mhz or so. 128 MB RAM Minimum. CDROM if possible. minimum 5 GB HDD. Monitor/keyboard/mouse (optional). If you have any such boxes lying around and want to dispose it off, contact me offlist with the specs and the price you are looking for. Looking to get 2-3 such machines as soon as possible. thanks! abhishek Ignorance is Strength. What you don't know cannot hurt you. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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