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Re: [ILUG-BOM] elisp
by Philip S Tellis 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Nagarjuna G. wrote: > (defun my-centre () > "Nagarjuna G.") > > (defun my-name () > "Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR") Hmm, interesting. -- I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the demigodic party. -- Dennis Ritchie

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Compiling linuxthreads for glibc
by Satya 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

/tmp/cc4koWpS.s: Assembler messages: /tmp/cc4koWpS.s:1214: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction /tmp/cc4koWpS.s:1221: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction make[1]: *** [signals.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/6/backup/glibc-2.2.5/linuxthreads' make: *** [linuxthreads/others] Error 2 Help :-( gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release) (3.0.x doesn't compile on my system) glibc-2.2.5 linuxthreads: glibc-linuxthreads-2.2.5.tar.gz Kernel Linux 2.4.8. It's an AMD Duron or something. -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> Do radioactive cats have 18 half-lives ?

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What Scanner to buy?
by vma＠softhome.net 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

Hi! The school I work for is planning to buy a scanner that works on Debian (planning to use either potato 2.2r6 or Woody) Can people mail me a list of scanner models they have successfully been able to install on their GNU/Linux machines? We are thinking of buying a canon 640P. Any input on this? BTW, I have been to the SANE website and have the compatibility list. Samsung claims that ML1450 would work on Linux. Has anyone been able to make it work in Debian? BTW, I couldn't see this printer listed in www.linuxprinting.org. Any suggestions as to what Laser Printer would be most ideal to have in the price range of upto Rs. 22,000? Vikas.

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Neighbour table overflow
by funky 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

hi linuxers, I am doing natting using ipchains on linux box. the problem i that i am continuosly getting error messages like " Neighbour table overflow " on /var/log/messages. It seems that my arp table is getting overflowed due to the load. I tried the man page of arp command and there is no option to directly delete all the enteries of the arp table. Or is there any other solution ? regards, funky. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com

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LDAP Replication
by Himanshu Shukla 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am trying to do LDAP replication across some 10-20 machines. I have been half way successful in the same. That is, if I add a new record to the Master, it gets replicated instantaneously across the slaves. What I need to figure out is the other way round - When I add a new record to the slave, how does the Master know abt it (which would then send the record to the other slaves). I am using OpenLDAP-2.0.21, on RedHat 7.2, kernel 2.4.7. Any pointers? - -- Regards, Himanshu | Cybertech Networks Pvt. Ltd. http://www.thefreespeech.org | email: himanshu(a)cnpl.co.in (Initiate, Collaborate, Contribute) | Web: http://www.cnpl.co.in | - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ iEYEARECAAYFAj03pesACgkQU1ohqIKr1nM03ACeJ2Mh6/1BlPLUTDn96Zm1nuwp UEgAoIxh/3iz6mkcQwyDWUYzLtURBjZQ =Dt4j -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] ny OBJECTIONS to settin up groupware on this domain...
by Amol Hatwar 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

>postnuke was suggested instead of phpnuke (buggy and insecure), >or maybe we should just wait until you finish writing yours :-P >oh waitta minute vapourware..... n/m. hehe yeah vapourware ... yeah. I remember chiding people like this myself, so much for having your own medicine. But yeah let time be the final deciding factor about this. regards, -ah _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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XOSL - The New BootLoader
by N.a.v.i.n ....D.h.a.n.u.k.a 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

Look & Feel -=-=-=-=-=- # User-friendly Graphical User Interface # Full windowing system with mouse and keyboard support # Resolutions up to 1600x1200 # Configurable mouse speed # A set of color schemes # Several color adjustment options # Password protected boot configuration and settings # Restart/Reboot/Shutdown # ...and more... Booting Features =-=-=-=--=-=-=-= # Up to 24 boot items # Microsoft file system partition hiding support # Storing additional keys before booting # Activate partitions (one per system or one per HD) # Automatic booting (with timeout) # Auto boot last operating system # Password protection per boot item # Boot master boot record on any drive # Boot DOS/Windows 9x on any drive # Hotkey per boot item # Support for hard disks larger than 8Gb # [XOSL 1.1.1] Coexist with virtually any other boot manager (boot original master boot record) # [XOSL 1.1.2] Run Ranish Partition Manager 2.38 beta 1.9 from XOSL, without first booting an OS # [XOSL 1.1.2] Master boot record virus protection # [XOSL 1.1.3] Swap drives # [XOSL 1.1.5] IDE CD-ROM booting by including Smart Boot Manager # ...and more... XOSL is known to support =-=-=-=-=------=-=-=-=-= # BeOS # MS-DOS # FreeDOS # Linux (with Lilo) # Solaris # VxWorks 5.x # Windows 95/98/Me # Windows NT/2000 # ...and others... System requirements -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Minimal system requirements: # 80386 or better with 4Mb of RAM (6Mb for 1280x1024/1600x1200) # VESA VBE 1.2 compliant display controller # 300kb of free disk space Recommended: # Pentium 100 or better # VESA VBE 2.0 compliant display controller # PS/2 or serial mouse http://www.xosl.org ScreenShots: http://home.wanadoo.nl/geurt/shots.html Navin Dhanuka =-----=-----= . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com

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Re: Limiting CPU Usage
by Vinay Pai 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

> I need a way to set a hard limit on processor usage on the server. A > user had spawned three processes, one on each processor (the fourth one > got fried a long time ago), which kept them 90% busy. The result was > that the server became to slow to even reply to ping packets, not to > mention loss of DNS service. > > The command "ulimit" has an option "-t" that can set a limit on > processor usage in seconds ... what does that mean? > > I want to say something like "only x% on only y processors" if possible. > Is there a way to do that? > > Will simply limiting processor usage help solve the problem we faced? I think 'nice' should be sufficient. IMHO Limiting processor usage (to %x on processor y) doesn't make sense because when there is heavy load on the server, any reasonable value of x will be larger than that the kernel will assign anyway, and during light load you'll be wasting CPU time. If you "nice" the processes enough the scheduler will make sure that higher priority processes (like DNS etc.) will get all the time they need.

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CD Re-Writing????
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

Hi Guys, Anyone knows of a decent (GUI/CUI) packet writing software??? 'Coz I'm having problems writing RWs in Linux. I tried KOnCD and XCDRoast, but these are not good for packet writing (for RW discs in UDF format) My Writer is BenQ (Acer) 32/10/40. Thanks, Kunal

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] config files
by Himanshu Shukla 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 16 Jul 2002, Rajesh Deo wrote: > On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 07:26, Pablo Ares Gastesi wrote: > [snip] > > know about it. Why don't we keep a set of configuration files in one of > > the ilug servers? These will be the config files needed to run programs > [snip] > > I'm willing to start with files from my system. > > > > What do you think? > > Sounds like good idea! > I agree, will sure make things a lot easier. We can definitely set this up along with the Groupware. Won't take much space as well. Wot say Trevor? - -- Regards, | Cybertech Networks Pvt. Ltd. | email: himanshu(a)cnpl.co.in Himanshu | Web: http://www.cnpl.co.in | - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ iEYEARECAAYFAj01BzUACgkQU1ohqIKr1nO8HgCdGDRC9Pai4MYgVQMz0/UU9Ktt 2yIAn1YOcVPwpsMV5wlXXoae0ou8Qq9l =LI+Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Limiting processor usage
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

Hi, I need a way to set a hard limit on processor usage on the server. A user had spawned three processes, one on each processor (the fourth one got fried a long time ago), which kept them 90% busy. The result was that the server became to slow to even reply to ping packets, not to mention loss of DNS service. The command "ulimit" has an option "-t" that can set a limit on processor usage in seconds ... what does that mean? I want to say something like "only x% on only y processors" if possible. Is there a way to do that? Will simply limiting processor usage help solve the problem we faced? Sameer. -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ####[ Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]########################### Sub : Lesser known commands (toe) LOST #212 To know what all terms are supported by the kernel use: $toe | less This info may be needed when telnetting to another host with a different OS which does not recognise linux as TERM type. ####<bish(a)nde.vsnl.net.in>####################################

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Linux partitions
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

Sameer Shinde spewed into the ether: <snip> > Don't ask me to read how-tos. I want to discusses this >point with you as I found variation in the suggestion in >various ppls. No HOWTOs. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ Lots of reasoning there (and its a standard too). <snip> > During the installation, once linux dispelled a message >that, your /(root) partition should not be less than 250MB. I have / with 100 MB and I can still install deadrat on that. Its a matter of what you install and stuff. I personally use /,/boot,/usr,/var,/usr/local,/home,/tmp, swap (and maybe /opt). Mount /usr, / and /boot as readonly, maybe /usr/local too (unless you keep installing software like I do. >But then what about other partitions, like /home, /var, /dev >/tmp & other. What they are used for? See that URL I mentioned. >One more....... >& in which order they should be mounted? >which is the 1st & which one is last? / first, then the others, in any order you wish. /bin/mount *MUST* be present in /, /usr need not be mounted for lots of reasons. Devdas Bhagat ------------------------------------------------------------ NEW - FREE Nettaxi 56kbs Dial-up INTERNET ACCESS with NO ADS or Ad Bars! http://www.nettaxi.com/isp/

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Re: RAM v/s Swap Size (was Error while transfering install image on HDD- Out of disk space)
by Vinay Pai 18 Jul '02

18 Jul '02

> Your swap should ideally be twice your RAM. Could someone explain this to me... (please no lengthy explantation of what swap space means, please... I'm a computer science graduate :) ) I've never quite figured out why. After all, your system uses a certain amount of virtual memory that depends on the apps you use. physical ram + swap space used = virtual memory used Thus shouldn't you need *less* swap space if you have more RAM? I have 384MB of RAM and my swap space usage remains stubbornly stuck at 0. Wouldn've been an awful waste of 768 MB or hard disk space if I'd followed that rule-of-the-thumb!! (Instead what I've done is to remove the swap partition and allocate swap files if I ever do anything memory-intensive enough to require more space... and that has never happened)

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Re: Limiting processor usage
by Amish Mehta 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote: >The command "ulimit" has an option "-t" that can set a limit on >processor usage in seconds ... what does that mean? if u say ulimit of 1 sec, process will be KILLed if it uses more than 1sec of CPU time. (ps reports TIME field) > >I want to say something like "only x% on only y processors" if possible. >Is there a way to do that? 'nice' might be of help. But percentagewise CPU usage, I think can not be done, but not sure. > >Will simply limiting processor usage help solve the problem we faced? If you use ulimit than your problem might get solved but genuine users might get into problem. Amish.

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Linux partitions
by Sameer Shinde 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

Hi All, How many partitions should we have to install Linux on any system? & what should be their size if we have 4GB of disk space & installation packages take around 2.5GB to install. Swap, I know, double the ram.(127MB in most cases) On the RHL 7.1 CD , in the installation strategies how-to, I read that we can install linux with min. 3 partitions. They are, /boot, /swap & /(root). But this way I found the system is slow Don't ask me to read how-tos. I want to discusses this point with you as I found variation in the suggestion in various ppls. Some says your / partition should be the largest on the other hand some says /usr partition should be large, as the installed S/W get installed on this partition One of my friend told me that your /boot partition should be the largest partition. I know he is wrong, as some of our friends told me that around 10 to 20 MB are enough for /boot. During the installation, once linux dispelled a message that, your /(root) partition should not be less than 250MB. But then what about other partitions, like /home, /var, /dev /tmp & other. What they are used for? One more....... & in which order they should be mounted? which is the 1st & which one is last? Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Messenger IDs : MSN : s2sameer Yahoo! : s9sameer RediffBol : s2sameer Indiatimes : s2sameer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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RPM Problem
by Sachin 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

hi there while i was upgrading rpm pakage from rpm-4.0.2x i removed rpm of previos version now i can install newer version please tell me how to isntall rpm package do i have to install it from a tarball thanx for u r suggestion in advance sachin -- ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= sachin(a)mediaibc.com MediaIBC ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= Kissing a smoker is like licking an ashtray. ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Userfriendly
by Amol Hatwar 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 Shishir wrote : >I agree with Amit. *choke ... chuckle* Amit who? I am amol. :) with warm wishes, -ah _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Help in Ximian Desktop downloaded from ilub bom site
by Sachin 17 Jul '02

17 Jul '02

hi there i tried to install ximian red carpet on the on box downloaded from from db.ilug-bom.org.in no i could inot install the Ximian Desktop as it gives error as on 3 step after i select the local dir to install ------------------------- ERROR: Unable to resolve the server. Please ensure that your network connection is working properly. ------------------------- i have dir struct as follows /downloads | +--redcarpet [DIR] +distro.xml install.xml +installer-rpm-glibc2.2-i386 snarf.i386 which-distro.i386 +-----ximian-gnome[DIR] +---redhat-62-i386[DIR] + [All rpms] thanx for u r suggestions -- ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= sachin(a)mediaibc.com MediaIBC ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= Lay off the muses, it's a very tough dollar. -- S.J. Perelman ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=

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HDD in LBA? CHS? Huh?
by Satya 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

So I went and got a new 40GB hard drive and plugged it in as /dev/hdc. This box only had /dev/hda until now. So what does Linux fdisk (and cfdisk) do? They both think it's a 6GB drive. Fiddling with all settings in CMOS doesn't help. besides, the *kernel* knows it's 40 gigs. Enter DOS fdisk. Which happily recognizes the drive, creates a token 100MB partition (I don't trust LILO, I use loadlin. I should put lilo next.) and happily formats it. (Okay, that was DOS format. Whatever.) Now Linux fdisk sees all the cylinders/sectors/foo. So now I'm embarassed: Why did Linux fdisk not recognize it for what it was, the first time? For that matter, which is better in CMOS: Auto (duh) LBA Large (whatever *that* means) CHS (and lie about the geometry) ? -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> I didn't know it was impossible when I did it.

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new user, internet connectivity problem
by Abhijit Bhabhe 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

hi, have just joined this list. we are currently in the process of setting up a linux server...having problems with squid, unable to connect to the internet...it says cant down-load the page, sent and received bytes are also very low. what could be the problem. do get back if any of you have ideas.. thnx, abhijit

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Simputer
by Sameer Shinde 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

Hi All, Yesterday I read an articall about the Simputers ( SIMple comPUTER ) which are meant for the satisfing the need ofthe peoples from rural area in India. Peoples those are just literate or low qualified but still wants to know & learn about the computer can take the great advantage of the simputer. According to an artical, one software team of IIT is developing these simputers & it will probably be avaliablein the market from November. Mr. Mark Mathayan of IIT encore team said that, simputers are designed & developed by keeping in mind the percentage of literacy in India. He further said that, these simputers will be avaliable with a low prize of approx. Rs. 9,000 /- only. These Simputers will have all the facilities which are avaliable in normal computer. But they will not be working on MS-Windows, rather they will work on LINUX, which is freely avaliable world wide Many foreign companies have shown their interest in this project & asked for the rights for the production of these simputers. But IIT has not given the rights to anybody as it wants the simputer to be purely Indian & wants some Indian company to come up & start the production. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - If we forget rest of the part of this artical & concentrate on using LINUX on the simputers, I think this is a golden opportunity for us to wide sprade the Linux in India & making the peoples aware of Linux. We can even add it in our projects TO - DO list. So.... What U guys say? Think on it............. Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Messenger IDs : MSN : s2sameer Yahoo! : s9sameer RediffBol : s2sameer Indiatimes : s2sameer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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elisp
by Vinay Pai 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

I've always known you can do real cool things in emacs with elisp, but never got around to learning how. Has anyone out there significantly tweaked their .emacs files? If so care to send me an example of the stuff you've done?

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[3] Error while transfering install image on HDD- Out of disk space
by Sameer Shinde 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

} On the 3rd day i.e. today, I deleted all the 3 linux partitions of the disk & accessed the free space from the windows ( fdisk ) & scanned it for any bad sector, which I didn't found on the disk so I again partitioned them for linux ( in linux setup) But still get the same message as before i.e. " An error occurred while transferring......... " $ { WHY IS THIS MESSAGE COMMING UP? WHERE IS THE MISTAKE? } $ { HOW CAN I COME OVER IT ? } Here during the partitioning I got another message that, " Automatic Partitioning Failed There is not sufficient disk space in order to automatically partition your hard disk. You will need to manually partition your disk for RHL to install." Plz choose the tool U would like to use the partitioning your system for RHL - [ Disk Druid & fdisk ] Before this installation, I had deleted the partition which was created for scanning in windows. So I had around 4GB of free disk space, But still I got the above message. Waiting for your helpful reply, Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Messenger IDs : MSN : s2sameer Yahoo! : s9sameer RediffBol : s2sameer Indiatimes : s2sameer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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[1] Error while transfering install image on HDD- Out of disk space
by Sameer Shinde 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

Hi All, - - - - - - - - - - - I am providing u this detail story b'coz I want u to understand the problem properly & give me out the correct solution. The mail is divided in the 3 parts b'coz of the restirision on the mail size - - - - - - - - - - - Since last 3 days I am trying to install RHL 7.1 on my pc but, every time my installation fails b'coz of failure of disk partitioning or due to system hanging, yet I'm not able to install RH on my pc & I'm still trying...... I have kept around 4GB of my disk space, to install linux on my m/c the total disk space I assign in the following way. /boot 54 MB hda8 $ { what is the min space we can assign to /boot? } swap 133 MB hda9 / remaining all space hda10 ( around 3.7 GB ) $ { Do I need to create any other partion for the installation & for improving the performance, as I found the system is quite slow in the 1st installation? } [ I read in one of the how-to (on the CD) that we can install linux with these 3 partitions, so I followed it ] [ NOTE: I'm not able to partition the disk with Disk Druid as it is not setting up /boot partition saying that your boot partition is >1024 cylinders & can not be mounted, so I used fdisk instead ( after reading the info & help ) & I found it very easy. ] o.k... On the very 1st day, the installation goes fine ( with little difficulties) but there was still some errors such as after shuting down the system it was giving an error - * general protection fault : fooo cpu : 0 EIP : 0050 [<00008881>] [snip] . . . . . . . . . . [snip] * dos partitions were not able to mount [ I tryed ' mount ' command along with editing /etc/fstab file but it didn't work, leaving the message vfat partitions can not be mounted ] $ { why it was not mounting the partitioning ? } * I was not getting a proper screen resolution. which I wanted to solve. So I finally desided to re-install RHL. Sorry for inconveniance, SAMEER :)

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] how to surf using linux
by Nikhil Karkera 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 ketan shah wrote : >tell me how to surf using linux.how to configure modem >settings in linux.how to receive and send hotmail and >yahoo mails using linux I found "Linux in easy steps" to be a nice beginer's book for GNU/Linux (from the 'in easy steps' series). Has most of the simple things people want to do after they install GNU/Linux, like setting the wallpaper on X, connecting to the Net etc. I think it costs a little over Rs.100/= Warm Regards, Nikhil. _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #545 - 4 msgs
by Vinay Pai 16 Jul '02

16 Jul '02

Hi linuxers-request, Monday, July 15, 2002, 12:37:34 PM, you wrote: > Send Linuxers mailing list submissions to > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > You can reach the person managing the list at > linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Linuxers digest..." > Today's Topics: > 1. Re: problem with modem (Shishir) > 2. RE: About firewalls... (Amarendra Godbole (Intl Vendor)) > 3. Re: [3] Error while transfering install image on HDD- > Out of disk space (Rajen M. Parekh) > --__--__-- > Message: 1 > From: "Shishir" <iamshishir(a)lycos.co.uk> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] problem with modem > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:27:15 +0530 > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Use the L3 string for your modem. > Shishir > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Saswata Banerjee & Associates" <scrap(a)saswatabanerjee.com> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:52 AM > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] problem with modem > Since we are on the topic of modems ..... > I also use Mandrake 8.2. > My modem works fine, but is there any way of making the modem play the line > sound when it dials and connects ? Meaning, while it is dialing and > connecting, I would like to hear the sound from the modem to know if it is > getting the line, dialing, whether line is busy or waiting to connect, etc. > I could not find the relavent option in the control panel > Regards > saswata > --__--__-- > Message: 2 > Subject: RE: [ILUG-BOM] About firewalls... > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:24:21 +0530 > From: "Amarendra Godbole (Intl Vendor)" <v-amarg(a)microsoft.com> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >> Packet filtering alongwith other measures should work. IPchains is >> good try it out. Also use tools like dsniff and nmap to check the >> security of the network.Shutdown services which are not >> needed. And block >> all ports which are not in use. > ...and follow the paranoid approach to security. ``Deny all, allow > selectively.'' You should be enough secure that way... :) > --amar > -- > Amarendra A. Godbole / Microsoft ``Services For UNIX'' / These opinions > are _MINE_. > If anything can go wrong, _FIX_ it. (To hell with MURPHY) > --__--__-- > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:00:32 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Rajen M. Parekh" <rajparekh(a)vsnl.net> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [3] Error while transfering install image on HDD- > Out of disk space > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Sameer Shinde wrote: >> } >> >> On the 3rd day i.e. today, I deleted all the 3 linux partitions of the disk & >> accessed the free space from the windows ( fdisk ) & scanned it for any >> bad sector, which I didn't found on the disk so I again partitioned them >> for linux ( in linux setup) But still get the same message as before i.e. >> " An error occurred while transferring......... " >> >> $ { WHY IS THIS MESSAGE COMMING UP? WHERE IS THE MISTAKE? } >> $ { HOW CAN I COME OVER IT ? } >> > Use fdisk and make necessary partitions, except a seperate partition for > /boot. For booting problems for partitions beyond 1024 cylinder, you > should use loadlin. This shouldn't be a problem with the newer versions of LILO (or Grub). You just need to add "lba32" to /etc/lilo.conf Unfortulately if you use disk druid during RHL installation it still complains if you use a boot partition > 1024

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OT: s/w expert needed ....
by Ulhas Vaidya 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

dear all, an acquitance's company in andheri needs an expert in system integration for one day. this company is involved in iso quality certification (like iso 9000, 9002 etc). the date it would need the expert is 23 /24 july. ideally, the person should have B.E. or equivalent deg with some experience..... the money paid for a day's service will be quite ok (as i think it, of course..) pls call Mr. K. K. Banerjee / Mr. Frances on 6730915 / 16. thank you for your time regards, ulhas

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Hi
by Nilesh Singit 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

Hello, I just installed PCQ Redhat 7.1. on my new P4 1.5 on 10gb hdd with win2000 insstalled on the 40gb. i am able 2 run both win200 and linux with dual booting my prob is that in haste i forgot to configure the vga card, i have asus v3005 32mb, this was not shown in the list. i learnt from a friend that i could've used sis 300 (is it in the list shown by redhat??). now i am not able 2 startx. my question is how do i configure X windows to take the correct drivers for with re-installing linux all over again. my vga card is agp asus v3005 32mb ram monitor is lg studioworks 563N please help! nilesh

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #543 - 15 msgs
by Rajendra Shastrakar(Raj) 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

> From: "Amol Hatwar" <amolhatwar(a)rediffmail.com> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] OBJECTIONS to setting up groupware + volunteering for ILUG-Mumbai > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > > > > At present I feel I would be better off > >with the designing and maintaing of ILUG-Mumbai website. I Notsure wot u guyz are implementing .But i think you can have a look at my zope product http://forums.gnu.org.in/Volunteers

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] HDD in LBA? CHS? Huh?
by Vinay Pai 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

>Large (whatever *that* means) FYI "Large" means larger than *gasp* 32MB. (MB, not GB) Basically a remnant of the "640kb oughta be enough for anyone" days.

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] About firewalls...
by Amarendra Godbole (Intl Vendor) 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

> Packet filtering alongwith other measures should work. IPchains is > good try it out. Also use tools like dsniff and nmap to check the > security of the network.Shutdown services which are not > needed. And block > all ports which are not in use. ...and follow the paranoid approach to security. ``Deny all, allow selectively.'' You should be enough secure that way... :) --amar -- Amarendra A. Godbole / Microsoft ``Services For UNIX'' / These opinions are _MINE_. If anything can go wrong, _FIX_ it. (To hell with MURPHY)

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problem with internal modem
by k_sapre＠softhome.net 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

Hi luggers , I've installed Mandrake 8.2 & I am having Motorola SM56 PCI internal modem on ttys3 or com4 . I am trying to connect to Internet thru Linux. I tried to configure my system using Mandrake Control Center , but when i clicked on "Connect" tab , it shows "connection failed" after sometime. When I list my hardware using HardDrake tool it lists my modem correctly , so I think Linux has recognised my internal modem . But when I click on properties for modem , it shows all details like vendor and all except for 'kernel modeule ' for which it says 'UNKNOWN' . So do i need to install driver ? Please Help . Thanx in advance . Kedar.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Userfriendly
by Amol Hatwar 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote : >How large are your documents ? > >We also work on some large documents. However, (at least in >windows), we >have not faced problems. We have faced some difficulties on >spreadsheets, >but under special conditions. If you have a set of complex, >inter-connected *snip* OK great ... heaa**vvvyy user here. No arguments. But what I was actually trying to say was that a lot of work still needs to be done. Linux has an upperhand in server-end applictaions no doubts about that. But in the desktop area, Windoze still rules. Perhaps, we should learn something from the way they make their UI's. We always say that Linux is enetring the desktop area, but slowly. Has anyone wondered how fast M$ is doing? If you have to race-em' you have to run faster. For heavens' sake lets at least talk about getting jet-packs rather than row-row-row your boat .... -ah _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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by upendra gandhi 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] an important concern for the PRC
by Amol Hatwar 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 Nikhil Karkera wrote : >On Sun, 07 Jul 2002 Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote : >[snip] >>It is important to let people know and realise how much can be >>achieved on >>Linux, how easy it is for end users to operate and what software >>is >>available. Ahem ... It is NOT easy. Linux us still not user friendly. There are a lot of issues with reagrds to usability and othe stuff ... even Redhat accepts it :). >> > This is a really important concern for Linux. Though it is >>powerful >> > and flexible ,most people are not aware of it's advantages. >>Most of the >> > people think it's a *cheap software* which is not worth >>working on or >Unfortunately this is quite true. I teach students doing their >MSc in s/w systems, and I was amazed at their ignorance about >free software. Yeah true ... while >Since I teach software engineering, we've taken up GNU/Linux as a >case study for this subject. I get the feeling it has aroused >their interest in free s/w. One student asked me, "If it's so >great, which I can see it is, how come we never knew about >it?". There are a lot of other great things that people don't know about too ... :) >I also wish to encourage these students to take up GNU/Linux >related final-semester projects, where I hope the PRC will assist >me. > Nice Nice ... keep the steam up :) -AH _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] ny OBJECTIONS to settin up groupware on this domain...
by Amol Hatwar 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 Trevor Warren wrote : > >--- Chandrashekhar Bhosle <cnb(a)freedomink.org> wrote: > > Yeah, use postnuke instead. *eeeeekkkk* postnuke = portal serving. Thats why I am making mah own CMS in PHP. Post nuke isn't worth it *remotely*. Of course, you could try. But this is what I feel about it. -ah _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] About firewalls...
by Amol Hatwar 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 NIRAV KAKU wrote : >HI, > >I have recently joined a company where I think, they are in love >with NT. Ugh! Anyway, I am shifting our mail / proxy servers from >NT to Linux. *snip* arrghhh nirav ... there are already a plethora of howtos on this and there are alos plenty of messages pointing people to howto's. Doesn't anyone check archives? -ah. _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] OBJECTIONS to setting up groupware + volunteering for ILUG-Mumbai
by Amol Hatwar 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 Shankar Ramchandran wrote : > >----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vinod Ramanathan" <vinodr_678(a)myrealbox.com> > > > At present I feel I would be better off >with the designing and maintaing of ILUG-Mumbai website. I >spring > from a hardware background and will be picking up the software >concepts as I get along. >[snip] *good going* :) -ah _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Re: ASUS VGA Card on RedHat [was Re: [ILUG-BOM] Hi]
by Vinayak Hegde 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

On 14 Jul 2002 13:44:57 +0530 "Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe" wrote: > my prob is that in haste i forgot to configure the vga card, i have > asus v3005 32mb, this was not shown in the list. i learnt from a > friend that i could've used sis 300 (is it in the list shown by > redhat??). > > I don't have an answer to your original problem, but my advice is to > firt upgrade to RHL 7.3 before trying to figure out your card ... 7.3 is > likely to have better support for your card. > > Sameer. > -- > MTech Student, > Reconfigurable Computing Lab, > KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. If u are confident enough or want to experiment, try out the generic server or some other Xserver for asus chip and try it our if it works. However you need to have your card manual/user guide by your side as you may need the details.try it out. But be sure of what you are doing or you may thrash your system. However that may teach you a thing or two new about your system. The command for the same is Xconfigurator. to get a graphical login set the initdefault line in /etc/inittab to 5 happy experimenting. -->vinayak hegde ################################################# #Linux - The choice of the GNU Generation # ################################################# __________________________________________________________________________ http://dating.zeenext.com Log on to nextDATE. It's the next best thing to doing it.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] telnet fails to port 25
by akshaysalkar 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

so is that if mail has to be sent or received...a mta has to be present on each terminal.?? also is it possible to read mail via outlook or netscape ie. pop3 mails if the MTA is qmail?? linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, akshaysalkar wrote: > when i try to telnet 192.168.0.1 25 > it says > connection refused why? > > however my telnet 127.0.0.1 25 > does accept the connection Please read the docs/faqs before posting questions. It happens like this most likely because your mail server is only bound to your loopback interface. What mail server are you using? If you're using sendmail, then read the faq at sendmail.org to see your solution. Philip -- Help me, I'm a prisoner in a Fortune cookie file! _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] About firewalls...
by Vinayak Hegde 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

Anyway, I am shifting our mail / proxy servers from NT to > Linux. However, I need some assistance designing the network security > using a firewall. I am wondering if packet level filtering will work > well enough. Packet filtering alongwith other measures should work. IPchains is good try it out. Also use tools like dsniff and nmap to check the security of the network.Shutdown services which are not needed. And block all ports which are not in use. --> vinayak hegde ################################################# #Linux - The choice of the GNU Generation# ################################################## __________________________________________________________________________ http://dating.zeenext.com Log on to nextDATE. It's the next best thing to doing it.

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OBJECTIONS to setting up groupware + volunteering for ILUG-Mumbai
by Vinod Ramanathan 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 15:48 > > If ny1 has ny objections/suggestions towards settin > up of the PRC site phpgroupware and phpnuke on the > site.....please let us know now. > Trevor Warren Just a suggestion. Instead of going in for a whole scale groupware wouldn't a CVS plus a bug reporting program (like bugzilla or track+) suffice for project co-ordination. We can add a discussion forum (like phpBB) here carrying project specific discussions. People contribute to software on an as and when basis and complete groupware package can get irrelevent here. Excuse me for slightly degressing from the topic. I am a latest entrant into the this ILUG community, though I am using GNU/Linux for more than 5 mths now. In maintaining the tradition of quid pro quo GNU/Linux tradition I wish to proffer my help to the ILUG-Mumbai activites. At present I feel I would be better off with the designing and maintaing of ILUG-Mumbai website. I spring from a hardware background and will be picking up the software concepts as I get along. So in short, can this tyro be of any help in this area -- considering the fact that I can regularly put in only an hour or so of work everyday. In the spirit of GNU, Happy Hacking! --

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Invalid compressed format?
by Satya 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

Why would my new 2.4.18 kernel say invalid compressed format when booting with loadlin? -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> Moo!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] problem with internal modem
by sameer shinde 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] problem with internal modem
by sameer shinde 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

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About firewalls...
by NIRAV KAKU 13 Jul '02

13 Jul '02

HI, I have recently joined a company where I think, they are in love with NT. Ugh! Anyway, I am shifting our mail / proxy servers from NT to Linux. However, I need some assistance designing the network security using a firewall. I am wondering if packet level filtering will work well enough. Please email me personally if you have suggestions. Thanks in advance. NIRAV KAKU

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Re: Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Userfriendly
by Amol Hatwar 13 Jul '02

13 Jul '02

>non techie ?) user will not have problems with it. He can >continue using >internet, email, word / excle type of applications without facing >any >problems. In fact, if you use star office, he does not even need >to learn >new commands since it is almost same as in msoffice. has anyone made StarOffice choke-up. The size of my documents sometimes do. :) -AH _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #539 - 14 msgs
by Vinay Pai 13 Jul '02

13 Jul '02

>> i have tried to install KDE3 from the rpms that KDE site has given on their >> site but it gives dependacy problem can any body suggest me what rpm(s) needed >> to solve this dependacy problem. thanx in advance RPM tells you what packages need to be installed/updated. At least paste the command you used and the output... otherwise its really shooting in the dark.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ???Error encountered.....ny1 who can debug.
by Himanshu Shukla 13 Jul '02

13 Jul '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear Luggerz, On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Trevor Warren wrote: > I am also looking at some1 donating server-space > temporarily with mysql/php support to setup > phpgroupware. Dr. Nag will be having us another server > in a fortnite's time. > > Trevor Warren Been "passively" reading mails abt the project resource centre with keen interest for some time. Because of some circumstances (I wld probably be leaving India in a coupla months time), I thot I won't be able to contribute much. But I already had something like this in mind, long before Trevor put up this idea on the list - a site dedicated to "initiate, collaborate and contribute" to the Linux cause in India. I had already registered a domain, and am in the process of designing the site. But till that time (and even later), I would be more than glad to dedicate some space to host phpgroupware, especally since, that was the whole aim of my creating the site. The registered domain is called "thefreespeech.org". This is just a suggestion, and my way of contributing to the cause. - -- Regards, | Cybertech Networks Pvt. Ltd. | email: himanshu(a)cnpl.co.in Himanshu | Web: http://www.cnpl.co.in | - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ iEYEARECAAYFAj0r8cAACgkQU1ohqIKr1nPFqgCgq9Cl8e9jKIeL+R22l9wb1kDI H7MAoI1/Z+YUAMtS9IxS0WMCdEEtQg49 =gQzx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Checkpoint Vs Cisco Vs Astaro
by shankar_ramchan＠vsnl.net 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

abcdef4444in(a)yahoo.co.in wrote Who is market leader Checkpoint or Cisco ?? [snip] I would say Checkpoint is the market leader. Based purely on personal experiences, I believe that Cisco is popular becasue it is a hardware based f/W but Checkpoint related products like the Nokia box are eating into Cisco's market share. - Shankar

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