On Saturday 26 May 2007 15:53, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
On Saturday 26 May 2007 12:17:05 Kartik Mistry wrote:
Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
what about gnewsense?
All these `freedom fighters' should not use Ubuntu. It provides access to non-free software. Ditch. It's not listed on GNU's list of free distributions. Use only one of the free distros listed there, none other. If you don't follow that, shut up and stop preaching about freedom and blah blah.
Freedom comes with right to choose whatever you want. Non-Free too. Provide access and comes with default-non-free-stuffs are different things (If you can understand it).
Heh. So why the whole agenda against non-free? Why doesn't the GPL allow non-free useage?
I find this whole agenda hypocritic. Either adhere to it fully before you go on preaching about it or stop preaching it. Why isn't Ubuntu or Gentoo or <insert any other distro here> on GNU's list if it doesn't ship with non-free software by default? And if Novell is evil for making a business deal, why isn't Ubuntu evil for providing such a user-friendly access to non-free software?
Cunning twist to a sordid unpardonable action (by microvell). Canonical did not sign up the big bully to beat u up for using free or non free software. Novell did. Nor does anyone tell u what to do with YOUR piece of code. The gpl fobids the use of gpld code in non gpld software because you are robbing all the others to fatten yourself. Or in some cases (like BSD licence) indirectly allowing others to do the same. Write your own code and do as u please. There are millions doing that. As an end user you are going to be in deep trouble using such closed software. Infact most buyers require you to provide the source in an escrow account nowadays.
So, the way I see it, everyone must follow the principles, only I'm allowed to follow them at my own leisure.
Oh wait. I know what'll happen. Now there will be some a couple of completely irrelevant replies, a couple of trolls and a couple of flames. I see your point - Those who can shout the loudest or use the heaviest language must be correct, right?
Wrong. This thread wasnt about gpl to start with but about "ease of use" in a twisted way. First dont provide the specs and / or patent the software making it impossible to use. Then make others invent all sorts of convoluted methods to make the completely unusable "easy to use". Does that sound fishy?. No that's business you know. No doubt companies bite the dust everyday and lay off hundreds inspite of all the "great deals".