Linuxers October 2002

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Re: IMP -- RE:[ILUG-BOM] Not so Random
by Amish Mehta 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

Philip S Tellis wrote: > >Are you sure it came from me? There is a worm around that sends mails <snip> >- I have never (in my life) sent a .xls or a .pif file via email To add to that I have never received a .xls or a .pif file from Philip. ;-). Infact from noone in list. But I have one doubt, does mailman scan emails for virus? Amish.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Installation Problem - Sun Solaris 8
by q u a s i 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

At 12:13 even 10/10/02 +0530, Philip wrote: >On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, q u a s i wrote: > > > Beg your pardon, but is this a SUG? If not then a [OT] in the subject > would be warranted, > > wouldn't it? > >Umm, the OP is not on this list. He saw the archives on the web and >posted here. Please reply directly to him. His membership status is not my business. I dont keep track of every member on this list. He posted here, so the reply. If he read the archives on the web, do they not contain the private email address of this "Soumen" to whom the email was addressed? q

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Unmounting /
by Nikhil Joshi 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

Hi! ok this is bit stupid but still.. how do I unmount / i've observed that during shutdown / is unmounted ==> I shud also be able to unmount / but when i give: #umount / it gives umount: /: device is busy for obvious reasons. so how does the shutdown manage to umount the / Thx -- Nikhil

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Re: IMP -- RE:[ILUG-BOM] Not so Random
by Amish Mehta 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

Well sorry for confusion, actually what I meant was if messages to the list are scanned for virus before being distributed? Amish. Philip S Tellis wrote: >mailman doesn't. it is a mailing list software. no more, no less. >amavis does.

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[Announce] libyahoo2 v 0.6
by Philip S Tellis 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

libyahoo2 - A C library for the Yahoo! Messenger Protocol. http://libyahoo2.sourceforge.net/ Changes in this release: * Removed glib dependencies. Will use glib only if available * Configure time option --with-struct-callbacks to use a callback struct instead of callback functions (see yahoo2_callbacks.h and the README) * Identities Support - Get identities from server - Activate/Deactivate identities - Use identities when sending messages * Fixed possible buffer overflow in reading key/value pairs * sample console client no longer requires gtk!

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again samba configurations
by PRASHANT PATIL 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

Hi to all, First of all I AM sorry for not to reply you within 3-4 days & also the way of question that I was discussing. Well I am not miss any DNS name I want to connect two commuters. One is configured as domain controller with windows 2000 Active directory with domain name "milkyway.net" { hay there is no space or wrong my server works very well ;-) } with IP add 198.165.10.2 same DNS address "milkyway.net" and second is with mandrake 8.1. Tell me how I will connect two PCs Tell with the simple language with proper instructions with striate method OR Tell me how I will configure Linux as a samba server with peer-to peer model in the simple sets of instructions. I want to thanks satya, Phillip and others but name was DNS name or FPQN is not my problem My problem is that I don't know how to configure this two machines properly. How to's and books are on this topic are too bulky to use. just tell me method as practically you have do it. You are diverted the subject that I am talking forgot about DNS configurations . tell me SAMBA configurations. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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[rant] Red Hat 8 Desktop under-featured and less configurable
by Tahir Hashmi 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

Hi Linuxers! Okay, Gnome2 and Bluecurve look really cool, especially with AA fonts but there's quite a lot that I didn't like. Here are the issues (when I say that something "is" or something "isn't", it is supposed to be *AFAIK* and not the absolute truth): - Under-featured window manager: The MetaCity Window manager doesn't have any options for layering management and attribute memory. I can't keep EveryBuddy on top now. - No options for custom keyboard short-cuts: Unlike Enlightenment or Sawfish, there's no provision for having keyboard shortcuts to run commands. There's a lot more move-move click-click involved now. - No option to switch Window Managers! I installed RH8 clean on one system and upgraded another. The former doesn't have sawfish, the latter doesn't have an option to switch Window Managers, even though it has Sawfish. - Complicated Menu: The main menu is now more broad than deep a la KDE and that was one of the main reasons why I didn't like KDE. - Overall lack of customizability I could go on and on but to summarize, a lot of customizability that Gnome users had grown accustomed to is now gone and the overall feel has a lack of "freedom". - The Terminal is now a "System Tool" (duh!) I looked around the Net a little and I didn't find many people ranting about these things. Is it just me? Am I missing something? I'd be grateful if some of you could give some pointers. TIA --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed

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Installation Problem - Sun Solaris 8
by Jim DiZoglio 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

Soumen, You had posted a message on the web: http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20011001/002530.htm l "I tried installing Sun Solaris 8 on the 2nd HDD... on the beginning of the intallation itself (before scanning for hardware devices), it returned this error : ----------------- Warning : ACPI Tables not in Reclaim Memory (next screen) Warning : Resource Conflict - both devices are added Non - ACPI device : PNP0C01 Memory : 9FC00 - 9FFFF, FEE0000-FEF7FFF, FEF8000-FEFFFFF, FEC0000-FEDFFFF, FFF00000-FFFFFFF ACPI device : PNP0C01 Memory : 9FC00-9FFFF, E0000-EFFFF, 40FFC00-FEFFFF --------------" I was wondering you had resolved this? Regards, Jim

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[Announce] HTML.Template.java v 0.1.2
by Philip S Tellis 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

HTML.Template.java is a package that allows you to separate your HTML code from your java code. It is useful for servlet writers. You no longer need to recompile your code everytime you change the design. HTML.Template.java is 100% syntax compatible with HTML::Template.pm http://html-tmpl-java.sourceforge.net/ Version 0.1.2 fixes a bug that caused TMPL_VARs inside TMPL_LOOPs to be case sensitive even if case_sensitive is set to false. Philip

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Open IT - Govt to rewrite source code in Linux
by Frederick Noronha 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

Thanks to Ashish Kotamkar for sending this in via the Solaris list, run out of Delhi and Europe. FN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Open IT - Govt to rewrite source code in Linux TIMES NEWS NETWORK [ WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 09, 2002 01:29:29 AM] http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/articleshow?artid=24598339 NEW DELHI: If the Chinese have IT, get it. The Indian government seems to be taking a leaf out of China's operating system, and is planning a countrywide drive to promote the open source operating system, Linux, as the 'platform of choice' instead of 'proprietary' solutions. For proprietory, read Microsoft, which controls over 90% of the desktop software market. The Department of Information Technology has already devised a strategy to introduce Linux and open source software as a de-facto standard in academic institutions, especially in engineering colleges through course work that encourages use of such systems. Research establishments would be advised to use and develop re-distributable toolboxes just as Central government departments and state governments would be asked to use Linux-based offerings. DIT is in talks with leading industry players like IBM and HCL to get a feel of their work in the area and invite proposals for joint projects. "As a first step we are persuading all government institutions to offer courses on Linux and programming for Linux environment. We would also set up Linux Resource Centres in academic institutes (with co-funding from government and industry)," said a senior government official. Though India has made a name for itself selling solutions, software as a product is expensive within the country. And the cost will bite once India starts implementing IPR protection in earnest, as it has committed itself to. While redistribution of proprietary software is restricted through a licence agreement, the licensing terms for Linux grants the right to obtain and redistribute copies. Many analysts believe that China's growing dominance in the IT space is fuelled by its low cost open source bias. The Chinese government has consistently promoted its local software based on Linux, both for cost reasons, and reportedly for 'security' concerns as well. The source code for proprietory software is not revealed, and this, it is believed, has not found favour with the Chinese, especially in defence and security related applications. Microsoft, in what many observers and reports say is an attempt to soften the Chinese government's stand, recently committed to investing $750m in China in three years to help set up a software college and put its money into Chinese education. In comparison, Microsoft has announced investments worth only $75m over a three-year time frame in India. Howver, the Chinese company Redflag Software, which was set up by the Chinese Academy of Sciences, the country's most prestigious research institute, has often come out with low-cost software based on Linux, in direct competition to Windows-based software. The Indian government's plan, however, is not driven by security concerns, but by the far more simple arithmetic of costing. To put it simply, India being a developing country needs low cost solutions. Unlike the Microsoft-developed Windows operating system, Linux code is free and downloadable from the internet. With the addition of special applications, it can be personalized to meet specific needs. An industry-government-user-developer conference on the subject would be organised to throw up ideas for specific initiatives including funding, reliable sources told ET. The only issue here is support and services, which Indian government sources feel is not likely to be an issue in a country known for its software support and service skills. Like China, the government is also eyeing the increasingly lucrative global support and services market for the Linux environment may prove lucrative. While proprietary support agreements govern only the systems purchased (with licences), for free software support is independent of the number of copies owned. "With applications in security being a focus area, inputs have been sought from the Defence on their experience with Linux. Indian-language based solutions, e-governance, embedded and high performance cluster solutions are other areas. But firstly we want to concretise the position on IPR issues in the use of Linux," the source said. DIT is planning a three-tier mechanism, with itself as the first, industry, user groups and state governments as the second and a national apex committee headed either by a government representative, an industry expert or an academician to oversee manpower and skill development, applications development and deployment and public policy support, said sources. According to IDC's figures for '00, Microsoft still controlled 94% of the desktop software market and while Linux is expected to overtake the number two � Apple Mac OS � by '03, it would still control less than 4% of the market. In server software, it fares a little better and is expected to control around 30% of the market by '03, according to IDC. Linux, which has established itself in the server space, is an open reliable OS that runs on virtually any platform and was developd by Finnish technologist Linus Torvalds. After developing the initial source code, Linus made it available on the Internet for use, feedback and further development. =============================================== Warm regards, Ashish Kotamkar (ashish(a)mithi.com) solaris--independant forum for IT & development issues un/sub info: solaris-request(a)mail.sarai.net with the word "help" in the subject line or in the body of the message. URL: http://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/solaris/ archive: http://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/solaris/

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Linuxers October 2002