Linuxers February 2003

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Re: Ilug-belgaum March Meet
by Trevor Warren 22 Feb '03

22 Feb '03

Hello all...;) good-morning. I am open to visiting Belgaum for your upcoming meet. We just need to know your schedules for the same since i have project deployments all over the country coming up. We sure want to drop in, but please let us know your schedule for the same such that i can start making arrangements for... Dinesh Karunakar Abhijit Me...to come accross and talk on Free Software, Open Source and Gnu-linux. Let us know about the same and we will co-ordinate and be part of your gathering at belgaum. Also....we need to VISIT ALL THE ENGINEERING colleges in Belgaum. Please think on those lines and let us know how we can start working towards conducting Workshops on gnu-linux, Free Software and Open Source at all these colleges. I am available on my cell ...9820349221(M). Please finalise your plans and let me know about the same such that i can check my schedule and with the other speakers too. Trevor On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 18:21, Guntupalli Karunakar wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:50:45 +0000 > "rohan kangralkar" <rohankangralkar(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > hello Mr Trevor W and Karunakar, > > We are the coordinators of Belgaum GNU/Linux Group.We had > > meet you in the SICSR GNUify meet > > We are willing to have a meet at march end and would like to know if > > it is possiable for you to come to belgaum for a talk. Just let us > > know wether you are free and the topic on which you are going to > > talk and the time of the talk( embeded systems or anything technical > > or Indian Language solution on GNU/linux ). We have talked to goa > > members(fredrick Norohan) and few of them are comming to belgaum. > > Hoping for a positive response bye > > I am interested, but not sure whether would time for it in march, as > there is another event coming up march end. & I have to prepare for > it. Will let you know a little later (1-2 weeks) if it would be > possible in March. Meanwhile I will get active on the belgaum list, > discussing localisation there. Anyways I would like to form a > background before visiting there. Will also see what Trevor's ideas > are. > > Regards, > Karunakar > > -- > Hating people is like burning down your house to get rid of a rat - > Anon > > --------------------------- > * Indian Linux project * > * http://www.indlinux.org * > ---------------------------

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FSF-OS movement in kolhapur........help/contacts invited pls
by Trevor Warren 22 Feb '03

22 Feb '03

Hello Gp, good-evening...:) GP....i have been thinking about the event we just visited at Kolhapur and Dinesh, i am very glad with the way you went about having the Organisers convinced about the Genuiness of FSF-OS thus culminating in having us present our case to the audience. Can i suggest we start talking to Miss. Ambuja again as she is a real formidable force at Shivaji University. We would be really glad to conduct workshops Technical/Non-Technical for the various Engineering Colleges in Shivaji University. A lot of Engineering Colleges are getting more and more interested in the FSF-OS phenomenon and i want to bank on you towards having this movement taken to the maximum colleges in Interior Maharashtra. Please think about the same....i also want the LUGGERS to know about our efforts and suggest possible course of action. We would also appreciate if anyone could forward contacts for Various Engineering/Technical Institutes around the State such that making inroads becomes easier than Cold Calling. Thanks GP. And get back to us as soon as possible on the same. Trevor

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Re: [Linux Workshop] - Khopoli
by Trevor Warren 22 Feb '03

22 Feb '03

Hello Navin...;) Anytime...just let us know which weekend is good for the organisers and then we will see how it looks with us. We will educate them on gnu-linux..concepts of Free Software and Open Source and making careers on the same. As per my previous mail.....our contact nos are for the organisers to get in touch with us. Have a nice day all. Trevor On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 18:33, Navin Dhanuka wrote: > Hello Guys, > > Please check > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20030217/009209.ht… > > And let me know if you are willing to conduct a workshop there. > > Waiting for a +ve reply. > > Happy Hacking > Navin Dhanuka.. > > > ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about Freedom -< ) > /~\ __ http://www.gurucool.org __ /~\ > | \) / navindhanuka[AT]hotmail[DOT]com \ (/ | > |_|_ \ Student, MSc CA, SICSR / _|_| > \___________________________________/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Outline for hardware vendors workshop...
by Trevor Warren 22 Feb '03

22 Feb '03

Fantastic idea...when do we start out on the same...??. Any vendor wanting to bring all the other vendors under their roof for a start. Trevor On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 00:27, FN wrote: > Here's an interesting post from the Mumbai LUG (Linuxers List), and it > seems well thought out to be certainly worth reproducing. Could we think > of something similar in Goa? FN > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:26:32 +0530 (IST) > From: Dinesh Shah <dinesh(a)shahmicro.com> > To: ILUG-Bom Mailing List <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Outline of course for Hardware Vendors. > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > Hi All, > > I have thought of the following course/guideline for workshop for Hardware > Vendors. > > The duration of the workshop will be 1 day (6-8 hrs). > > 1. Why Free and Open Source Software (30 Mins). > > 2. Outline of the System and Basic differences between GNU/Linux and MS > Windows. (30 Mins). > > 3. Hardware compatibility and on-line references for checking > compatibilities of various hardware. (30 Mins). > > 4. Introduction to various common Applications (30 Mins). > > 5. Installation of GNU/Linux, partitioning basics, dual boot etc. (2 Hrs.). > > 6. Introduction to basic System Administration, CLI, GUI, X, WM, DM etc. > (1:30 Hrs.) > > 7. Basic troubleshooting principles and guidelines. (Reading log files > etc.) (30 Mins). > > We have to evolve course material as above. Please suggest any changes, > addition deletion etc. Also this is just a broad outline. We need detail > course material which we can give to workshop participants as handouts. > > Everyone is requested to contribute. > TIA > With regards, > -- > --Dinesh Shah :-) > Shah Micro System > Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com > Mobile : (+91) 98213-11906 > Res. : (+91-22) 56919423 > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:48:53 +0530 > From: Parag Shah <pshah(a)adaptivesoftware.biz> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Outline of course for Hardware Vendors. > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > Hi, > http://www.linuxtraining.co.uk/download/ has linux training slides for > download. The license is based on the Linux Documentation Project > license. Maybe we can take some pointers (in applicable areas) from them > to build on (re-use), add our own material where required and then allow > the training material to evolve over time. This may help in getting > started quickly. > We will just have to review the license properly to check if we are > allowed to re-use their material. > > regards > Parag > > > --__--__-- > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> > Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/FpY02D/vN2EAA/xGHJAA/0XFolB/TM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > To Post a message, send it to: ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com > To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: ilug-goa-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >

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About RAID
by srinivas 22 Feb '03

22 Feb '03

Hi all I am having a little bit of confussing in raid(Redundant array of Inexpensive disks). The basic idea of RAID was to combine multiple small, inexpensive disk drives into an array of disk drives which yields performance exceeding that of a Single Large Expensive Drive.In Linux how internally it will do?. Can I call this as hardware cluster.Can any one plz help me regarding this. Thanx in advance. Regards, Srinivas Rao NatureSoft Pvt. Ltd. 11-20, 2nd Lane, Appu street, Mylapore, Chennai-600004. Phones:044-24617193/94/95 (o)

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Regarding conversion of IMAP mailbox to database
by kavita modi 21 Feb '03

21 Feb '03

Hello all, I want to convert my IMAP mailbox to any database. Is there any tools which does this? Actually i dont want to convert all mailbox , but only some mailbox. Such that i can get report that how many replies come to this mailbox and how many are bounced which will help me to put report web-based. rgds kavita

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www.ilug-bom.org.in website
by philip＠konark.ncst.ernet.in 21 Feb '03

21 Feb '03

mentions that i gave a lecture on CVS. I did not. My lecture was on libtool versioning - specifically on picking the correct version number for you libraries. Philip

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Outline of course for Hardware Vendors.
by Dinesh Shah 21 Feb '03

21 Feb '03

Hi All, I have thought of the following course/guideline for workshop for Hardware Vendors. The duration of the workshop will be 1 day (6-8 hrs). 1. Why Free and Open Source Software (30 Mins). 2. Outline of the System and Basic differences between GNU/Linux and MS Windows. (30 Mins). 3. Hardware compatibility and on-line references for checking compatibilities of various hardware. (30 Mins). 4. Introduction to various common Applications (30 Mins). 5. Installation of GNU/Linux, partitioning basics, dual boot etc. (2 Hrs.). 6. Introduction to basic System Administration, CLI, GUI, X, WM, DM etc. (1:30 Hrs.) 7. Basic troubleshooting principles and guidelines. (Reading log files etc.) (30 Mins). We have to evolve course material as above. Please suggest any changes, addition deletion etc. Also this is just a broad outline. We need detail course material which we can give to workshop participants as handouts. Everyone is requested to contribute. TIA With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com Mobile : (+91) 98213-11906 Res. : (+91-22) 56919423

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My commentary on GNUnify
by Philip S Tellis 20 Feb '03

20 Feb '03

I recently had the opportunity to be at GNUnify - a Free software festival. The guest of honour was the GNU man himself - RMS. I was present on Sunday the 16th February where most of the invited talks were held. There have been other reports on GNUnify, so I'll concentrate only on the Mumbai GLUG's contribution. Names may have been changed, no disrespect is meant by this. The day started out with Dr. Nagnurjuna telling us why we should use Free Software, and dispelling some of the myths that have been spread by persons with other agendas. His contention that changing from our current operating system to GNU is no different from the changes that we have to make every two years to start using a new version of that OS is sound. Nagarjuna tends to flavour his lectures with a lot of humour and it was quite engaging that day. Especially funny was his comment about changing word processors: "We changed from WordStar to another word processor called Word Perfect, and then to another word processor called Word, and then to another word processor called Word, and then to another word processor called Word...". I overheard RMS commend him on this point too. Nag also had a three stage IQ test during his presentation. In the first case he asked the audience if they knew who was responsible for certain inventions/discoveries in science. He next asked people if they knew who had written certain Free Software projects (linux, emacs, gcc, perl, python), and finally who had written certain Proprietary products. Everyone got the first two correct. Later in the day Prof. Jeetendra Shah - or should we call him Freetendra Shahftware? - delivered a talk on the use of Free Software in education. He spoke primarily about research done by Seymour Papert in the use of computers to enable education. This is different from using computers to teach children. While the latter uses the computer to program children, the former lets the children learn by programming a computer. The talk was particularly interesting for me because it deals with my area of research. He spoke about how Free Software could help us achieve this goal, primarily by building different scenarios for people from different backgrounds. He also demonstrated Freeduc and distributed 25 CDs of the same. He suggests that every school should have one of these CDs. Jeetendra Shah was quite active throughout the day urging people to come forward and support other projects too, like IndLinux. The final attraction was RMS' speech. Nagarjuna introduced him, although it sounded more like he was reading out his own death warrant. He said RMS was not a person, and then followed it up by saying he's history. At that point RMS was ready to strangle Nag, if it weren't for the large number of people watching. There were several Mumbai Gluggers in Pune over the weekend. I'm told Nirav gave a lecture on PHP on Saturday. I wasn't present for that. I also met Gurpreet Singh - who's been on the receiving end of my list policing on more than one occassion. He made some insightful comments during Prof. Shah's presentation. He's requested me to post the usenet etiquette here, so I'm going to do it for the last time ever. It's now up to younger chaps to take the initiative. http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20021125/007711.ht… which refers to: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html I'd also post a link to Eric Raymond's article on tuxedo.org, but can anyone get to tuxedo.org today? Well, if anyone can, it's at http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Oh, yeah, the list search engine is at http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/search/linuxers Philip -- When a man steals your wife, there is no better revenge than to let him keep her. -- Sacha Guitry

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[OT] [Commercial] Course on Artificial Neural Networks
by Philip S Tellis 20 Feb '03

20 Feb '03

A 4-day course on Artificial Neural Networks is being held at NCST, Kharghar campus from 10th to 13th March, 2003. The course is open to all those who are interested in the field of neural networks, and assumes no background either in NN or AI. As you know neural networks are being applied heavily in a variety of disciplines from finance, diagnosis, pattern recognition, etc. The course will start with simple perceptron systems and will cover back-propagation based multi-layer perceptron systems, Radial basis function networks, Hopfield networks, and Self organising maps. Guidelines for developing neural network models will also be explored. Participants will explore the various frameworks using a NN development kit, for various data sets so as to get a clear understanding of their functioning and utility. For details, please refer to: http://www.ncst.ernet.in/education/advcourses/ann/ Or write to advcourse(a)yuga.ncst.ernet.in

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