Linuxers July 2005

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Inviting you to join www.softwarefreedomday.org
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 17 Jul '05

17 Jul '05

-------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Matt Oquist <moquist(a)softwarefreedomday.org> To: moquist(a)softwarefreedomday.org Subject: SFD 2005: Request your sponsored SFD CDs and materials! Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 01:01:27 -0400 Dear SFD Team Leaders, In 2004, SFD was successful because many of your volunteer teams around the world burned CDs and distributed them in celebration of Free and Open Source Software. 2005 holds new promise for Software Freedom Day because a primary sponsor (Canonical, Ltd.) has promised to donate up to 100 professionally pressed and packaged SFD CDs[1] to each of the first 150 SFD teams to register and request materials! We don't yet have the final figures, but we will also be providing a limited number of free SFD T-shirts, SFD balloons (you'll need your own helium) and SFD temporary tattoos for the first teams to request materials. There are a few criteria for teams to qualify for sponsored supplies: * Your team must be registered on our registration form (teams from last year, please register again). * Your team must have set up a wiki page with at least the basic information about members and plans. The more detail, the better. Please provide a URL. * You must have made an initial forum post inviting others to join your team. (Go to http://softwarefreedomday.org, click "Forum" at the top of the page.) * Your team must have at least 3 members. (More is better.) * You must completely fill out the request form with a valid postal address where we can ship your materials. These and other details are discussed on the SFD Materials Request Form, which is on our website. (Go to http://softwarefreedomday.org, click on "Get Materials" in the menu on the left side.) Approximately 191 registered team leaders are receiving this email, so you should meet the criteria and apply for sponsorship within the next few days to ensure that your team receives the sponsored supplies. We're very excited about the potential we have to impact the world with Software Freedom Day 2005, and we hope you can take advantage of our sponsor's generous offer in order to make your celebrations even more successful. Regards, Matt Oquist, Software Freedom International TODO: Request supplies at http://softwarefreedomday.org/index.php?option=com_mosforms&mosform=2&Itemi… [1] This year's SFD CDs will be TheOpenCD 3.0, which is a single-disc combination of an x86 Ubuntu LiveCD and TheOpenCD with updated packages. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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This weekend's ILUG-Goa meet 23072005 * Goa Science Centre 1500-1700
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 17 Jul '05

17 Jul '05

Just a brief note... from ILUG-Goa. If you wish to invite your friends over to encounter Free/Libre and Open Source Software, this weekend's meet is as good as any you would get. We already have a couple of issues on the agenda: Prof Anil Seth wrote: "I have been experimenting with LTSP - adding local applications and would be happy to discuss what I have been trying." What's that? Quote from Wikipedia: Linux Terminal Server Project (LTSP) is an add-on package for Linux that allows many people to simultaneously use the same computer. Applications run on the server with a terminal known as a thin client handling input and output. These thin clients are also known as X Terminals. Generally, they are low-powered and lack a hard disk. This technology is becoming popular in schools as it allows pupils access to computers without purchasing expensive desktop machines. Some examples of a distributions using LTSP are K12LTSP, Skolelinux and Deworks. The founder and project lead for LTSP is Jim McQuillan. Endquote. [See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTSP and http://www.ltsp.org ] Vidyadhar Gadgil roped in his Vipassana friend and long-time ILUG-Goa member Shankar of the National Institute of Oceanography to talk about LaTex, TeX and Lyx. LATEX is a document preparation system for the TeX typesetting program. It offers programmable desktop publishing features and extensive facilities for automating most aspects of typesetting and desktop publishing, including numbering and cross-referencing, tables and figures, page layout, bibliographies, and much more. LaTeX was originally written in 1984 by Leslie Lamport and has become the dominant method for using TeX —few people write in plain TeX anymore. The current version is LaTeX2ε. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX LyX is a document processor following the "what you see is what you mean" paradigm (WYSIWYM), as opposed to the WYSIWYG ideas used by word processors. This means that the user only has to care about the structure and content of the text, while the formatting is done by LATEX, an advanced typesetting system. LyX is designed for authors who want professional output with a minimum of effort and without becoming specialists in typesetting. The job of typesetting is done mostly by the computer, following a predefined set of rules called a style, and not by the author. Specific knowledge of the LATEX document processing system is not necessary but may improve editing with LyX significantly for specialist purposes. Although LyX is popular among technical authors and scientists, for its advanced mathematical modes (e.g.), it is increasingly also been used by social scientists and others for its excellent Bibtex integration and document managing features. It can handle documents ranging from books, notes, theses to articles in refereed journals. Recent versions of the software support right-to-left languages like Hebrew and Arabic. A separate release for Chinese, Japanese and Korean language support is also available. The LyX document processor is available for various operating systems like several Unix platforms including Mac OS X, OS/2, Windows/Cygwin and Linux. A Windows port that does not need Cygwin/X is in advanced stages. LyX is an open source software that can be redistribute and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyx Do come... pass the word around. There's a lot of info-sharing which you could gain from... FN ======================================================================= PS: St Xavier's College, Mapusa (Goa) launches The Xavier's Open Source Cell on July 23, 2005 at a program from 10.30 am to 11.45 am. =======================================================================

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fedora Core 4 and GNOME
by Sachin Rase 17 Jul '05

17 Jul '05

>Hello. Hi Komal , >I am facing weird problem in Fedora Core 4 .Every time I login in GNOME. >GNOME desktop is filled with KDE icon but things are normal in KDE. How to >disable GNOME to display KDE stuff on Desktop? pls go-to startup programs in gnome via control center i,e do following step run gnome-control-center >> select "Sessions" >> select "Startup Programes" and now you can delete add programs which has to start at loading of gnome session . HTH Sachin Rase

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Fedora Core 4 and GNOME
by Komal 16 Jul '05

16 Jul '05

Hello. I am facing weird problem in Fedora Core 4 .Every time I login in GNOME. GNOME desktop is filled with KDE icon but things are normal in KDE. How to disable GNOME to display KDE stuff on Desktop? Thank you Regards, Komal

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Fwd: [lb/2005-announce] The next 7 days...
by Sriram N 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

Hi All: (I'm writing this mail as an ILUG-Mumbai list member, and not as an official representative of the Bangalore Linux User Group.) For those who don't know, The Linux community in Bangalore - The Bangalore LUG- organizes an event every year for the past few years. So far, this event has been called "Linux Bangalore". I'd heard of this event in 2003, but was able to attend the event in 2004. You get to meet lots of techies, listen to talks, learn lessons, share knowledge, and build contacts. I feel that apart from the name and the venue, there's nothing Bangalore specific about this event - all are welcome and there's no discrimination. This year, the event promises to be focussed on FLOSS and community issues, than be limited to just Linux. Since it is the attendees and the various enthusiasts who'll benefit the most, all are invited to participate in the discussions. While there are people from this list who're already members of the linux-bangalore-2005 list, apparently not everyone is aware of this event, and the planning for this event. Learn more about this event from the following post, and join the yahoo group. -- Sriram --- Atul Chitnis <achitnis(a)exocore.com> wrote: > To: Linux Bangalore/2005 <linux-bangalore-2005(a)yahoogroups.com> > From: Atul Chitnis <achitnis(a)exocore.com> > Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:25:39 +0530 (IST) > Subject: [lb/2005-announce] The next 7 days... > > All: > > The next seven days are going to be crucial to some of the plans being now > carved in stone for the event. > > We have looked at the suggestions and comments made so far, plus the tons > of private email that we have received with even more suggestions, but > when you see the final plans, you will clearly see your recommendations > and suggestions there. > > Here is what we need now: > > More. > > More suggestions from you, more recommendations, more comments. They are > literally the bricks that we are using to build this house - without them, > we will have gaping holes - and windows - that problems can creep through. > (If that sounds familiar to you, don't blame me :) More involvement, more > willingness to make things happen. > > Some ideas to discuss: > > - What will work better: a few halls that seat 1000 people at a time and > have a guy speaking, or many midd-to-small sized halls that allow many > topics to be discussed? > > - Special Interest Groups: what kind of groups (say Gentoo, debian, > Fedora, Gnome, KDE, Education, User Groups, Indic/localization), and would > these groups be able to set their own agendas, keeping focus tight, and > not duplicate stuff from other SIGs? > > - Topics: Advanced, or newbie tutorials as well? Developer only, or admin, > user etc. topics as well? > > - Community: What would make LUGs participate more actively, so that the > world can see them? What would get them talking to each other at a > non-political level? What would get them sharing ideas, discuss issues, > work out solutions? Directions for the community (and - echoing the > comments of one person in private email - is there a community, or have we > allowed the vendors to take over?) > > - "Non-Linux": Our event is about Free and open source Software, not a > single product. Sure, Linux is a great posterchild, but Linux isn't the > only FOSS thing out there (despite some vendors trying their damnest to > make the world believe that). So how do we get the non-Linux projects to > get involved? How do we get our *BSD colleagues to consider this their > event as well? The FOSS-on-Windows people? The OpenOffice people? The > FOSS-on-OSX people? The PPP (Perl/PHP/Python) people? > > - Education and Government: What are the issues that need to be addressed? > The Indian Government is committed to FOSS, how do we help them take > things forward? How do we fix the problem of vendors getting their > products into the educational curriculum? How could the government and > academia get involved at our event to get their issues addressed? > > - Formats: Speaker+audience only, or discussion groups as well? > > - Anything that doesnt seem to ever get addressed, but needs to be? > > These are just samples - feel free to add any more topics. > > Anything relevant will get considered, and if we can fit it into the > event, we will. Provided you tell us about it, of course. > > This is a Free and Open Source event - it can't happen if you don't get > involved (just like every other FOSS project). > > To discuss these and more, get onto the mailing list: > > linux-bangalore-2005-subscribe(a)yahoogroups.com > > or > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linux-bangalore-2005/join > > Read what has been previously discussed: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linux-bangalore-2005/messages > > Have your say. Build your event. > > In a few days the event announcement and the call for participation will > go out - at that time, we need to know what we should use as selection > criteria. > > Please spread the word - on your mailing lists, in your forums, in your > oganisations. Get involved, get people involved. > > Believe me, when you see what we are building up here, you will kick > yourself if you don't get your say in *now*. > > Think Woodstock, think revolution, think change the world. > > It's time for something new - and you are the one who can build it. Let's > show the world how to do it right. > > Consider this the world's largest building block set - and you get to > place your pieces in it to build something tremendous. > > Atul > > p.s. We would appreciate it if you leave your politician hats at home - we > are trying to build here. Please come to the discussion with a positive > frame of mind. If your dog bit you this morning, maybe you should take > a day to cool off first - don't take it out on the list. :) > > If you need to offer criticism, make sure that your suggestion for an > alternative is in the same message. No 100% negatives, please. In the > closed source world, bug reports are "I used your product, and here is a > bug". In the FOSS world it is "I used your product, here is a bug I found, > and here is a patch/fix/suggestion". > > The rules of the list follow the FOSS world. > > > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] What now?
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

-----Original Message----- From: linuxers-bounces(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in [mailto:linuxers-bounces@mm.ilug-bom.org.in]On Behalf Of Kenneth Gonsalves Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:33 PM To: Ninad Bapat; GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] What now? On Friday 15 Jul 2005 3:23 pm, Ninad Bapat wrote: >> Earlier when I was new to Linux setting it up and using Linux for >I would suggest learning a scripting language like python or ruby and >joining an open source programming project. Got to python.org or >ruby.org for learning materials and go to the 'help wanted' section >of sourceforge.net to find a project to join. If you want to decide in favor of Ruby try rubygarden.org There's also a free book at http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/ written by the "Pragmatic Programmers" themselves. I'm 4-5 chapters in and I'm oohing-aahing at the sparkling nuggets. See what someone did in 24 hours with Ruby on Rails, http://www.yubnub.org/ Try the 'What is this thing?' link at the bottom Gishu

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Send mail in different domain
by Karia Amit 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

Hi All, Please help me regarding the following scenario I have two domains : 1)DomainA 2) DomainB 1)If user from DomainA wants to send a mail to DomainB , How will send mail Fetch the Info from DNS for name resolution 2)When a mail is sent from Server to Client's Inbox , Will be there a copy of mail as long as mail is not reached to inbox of client, so that in case if doesnt reach it mailbox of client We can retrive the mail back in case if its UDP transfer What should be the DNS entry in both domain in this scenario Hoping for reply regards Amit

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What now?
by Ninad Bapat 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

Hi I have been using linux since 2000. Earlier it was only Slackware but now I am quadruple booting my machine with Win XP(my brother uses this) FC3(primary distro-full install) Debian 3.1(25/4/05 build-base install will add packages as and when needed) Slackware 10.1(without KDE or Gnome but with XFCE and fluxbox but usage will be more of CLI The basic purpose of doing this was to get a taste of 3 major distributions. Everything is running fine but now what Also I want to learn programming and basic userlevel CLI tasks even maybe text editing in vi/vimor emacs. I dont know from where to start. May be a book on programming etc.I want to use linux installed on my Pc for some learning purpose. Earlier when I was new to Linux setting it up and using Linux for playing music/video/surfing were only the primary tasks I did. Any suggestions Thanks and Regards Ninad

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[Commercial] freelance PHP programers required
by Rohit Baisakhiya 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

Dear Luggers We are in search for freelance PHP programers in mumbai. Intrested parties can mail me offlist at <rohit at kiraninfotech dot com> -- Regards, Rohit Baisakhiya KiranInfotech

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] are tabs separate browsers in firefox
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

>hi, >some one on this list mentioned that each tab in firefox is a separate >browser - but if find that if i am logged in to a specific site on >two tabs, logout on one tab also logs out on the other. is there any >way of keeping these two separate? Don't think that's possible - logins would be specific to a user on a machine. Not browser instance specific. Just out of curiousity, what's the motive here...

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