Linuxers August 2005

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Trying to use expect to automate the Sify Login process...
by Rishi 17 Aug '05

17 Aug '05

Hi Has anyone figured out how to use 'expect' to work with Sify login utility to automated the login process? If yes, any tips / script would be gladly appreciated. :-) Regards Rishi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Maharashtra signs MOU with M$
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 17 Aug '05

17 Aug '05

On Wednesday 17 August 2005 14:38, A.Guru prasath wrote: > > Can someone get hold of the mou under the right to information > > act? > > Good point made, but how to interpret that law at this context. > Standardisation of computing machinery and software is the > solution. Does government set any standard for procuring these > things? As per the press release the cosultant and the provider is the same. The consultant has to provide vendor neutral specifications with unbiased inputs. There was no RFP for others to compete. If M$ is going to generate the rfp it cannot be the provider. This is the most glaring violation of norms. There are large number of guidelines in govt procurement policies which will make it difficult for M$ to win contracts unless it can skew the procurement process. Hence the mou. Bringing out the skew in the newspapers should awaken suitable ngo's to file necessary pil's in the future. The one thing that politicians hate is pils. rgds jtd

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Problem with two NICs
by Sanket Medhi 17 Aug '05

17 Aug '05

Hello guys, I am using FC4 x86_64. I have two LAN cards for two internet connections. One of them is the onboard NVIDIA chipset card. The other one is a Davicom Semiconductor 8139 card. The problem I am facing is that, in my Network Connections under Gnome, I see my NVIDIA card as eth0(forcedeth) which seems to be fine, but for the Davicom card I get an eth0 as well as another network device which is also detected as the same LAN card with a device number that changes every time I reboot my system. The eth1 which should be working fine is not and the other device which is detected works fine. Now, the problem is that I have to change the primary internet connection in Firestarter(firewall) every time I reboot my system. I hope you guys understand what I am trying to say and suggest me a solution. -- Regards, Sanket Medhi, sanketmedhi(a)gmail.com +91-9820990917.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] C programming in the Linux environment
by hemendra jain 17 Aug '05

17 Aug '05

>I want a comprehensive one which touches upon all aspects of C in >Linux. Hey Dinesh, Prog. in Linux consists of: Programming using Processes 1. fork ,exec sys call where C is used. 2. signals, 3. Synchronization Mechanism i.e semaphore, mutex, condition variable. 4. IPC: pipe, fifo, shared mem. These are basic things one shd know. Apart from that, there is something called THREADS which requires knowledge of PTHREAD prog. Book: Beginning Linux Prog. 3rd Edition Author: Publication:WROX Rgds, Hemendra On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 Dinesh Joshi wrote : >Could you guys please suggest me a good book for C programming in Linux? >I want a comprehensive one which touches upon all aspects of C in >Linux. I have enquired with TATA McGraw Hill and they don't have one. >The only book they have is Complete reference to C. > >Thanks. >-- >Dinesh A. Joshi > >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] what decides eth0, eth1 and so on?
by Arun K. Khan 17 Aug '05

17 Aug '05

> From: Keith Fernandez <kpfernz(a)yahoo.com> > Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:43:40 -0700 (PDT) > Reply-To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" > <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Since we are still on this topic, Anyone knows how to > configure this on other distros, or is it just > fedora?? 'ifrename' is another option to bind network names to specific HW devices. In SuSE it is packaged with wireless-tools. $ rpm -qf /usr/sbin/ifrename wireless-tools-28pre4-16.2 HTH, -- Arun Khan (knura at yahoo dot com) An English judge, growing weary of the barrister's long-winded summation, leaned over the bench and remarked, "I've heard your arguments, Sir Geoffrey, and I'm none the wiser!" Sir Geoffrey responded, "That may be, Milord, but at least you're better informed!"

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Maharashtra signs MOU with M$
by Vickram Crishna 17 Aug '05

17 Aug '05

At 5:31 PM +0530 16/8/05, Anand M R wrote: > > That apart, by enclosing public data in closed formats the government >> is PROMOTING somebody elses business and forcing the public to purchase >> software to access that data. > >Since its our money (as taxpayers) can we do something about it?? Actually, I don't think that use of the formats is totally closed - otherwise how could they be readable in OpenOffice? For this reason only (and please correct me if I'm wrong here) castigating the government for promoting someone's business is not on. However, making full use of the data is only possible with specialised software, which in this case is proprietary. That wouldn't be so bad, if it was a one time purchase (can think of lots of parallels from other industry sectors), but it isn't - one has to go on and on buying expensive upgrades, often getting pointless or irrelevant feature creep without any added value. What can one do about it? Make a noise, what else? Don't sit quiet waiting for some half knowledgeable journalist to educate others, especially those in a position to influence policy change. Maybe this list isn't the right place to take up this activity, but there ought to be others - on an all India basis, not just for Mumbaikars. Does anyone know of one? If not, then how can we pool resources to start such a list? Would it be OT to discuss this here till it reaches a take-off (or aborted) stage? -- Vickram

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Optic Fibre Concepts
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 16 Aug '05

16 Aug '05

On Thursday 11 August 2005 14:36, Dinesh Joshi wrote: > *snip* > > > hundred meters, whereas optic fibres are known to be efficient > > over distances of 100s of kilometers. :) > > WITH a coherent source of light....Thats the keyword. Not just that, the source has to be monochromatic (actinic) and high intensity for a fibre. Whereas for getting a natural light effect you must have spatial complex light source (non coherent, multiwavelength, scattered). Which is why no matter how you illuminate a place with artificial light, your eyes are able to easily know it's not natural. rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Maharashtra signs MOU with M$
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 16 Aug '05

16 Aug '05

On Friday 12 August 2005 12:31, Anurag wrote: > Sometime on Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 02:00:50AM +0530, Anand M R said: > > I read this today in express computer that the Maharashtra govt > > has signed an MOU with M$ to spread computer literacy in the > > state. All this after the president has openly endorsed FLOSS and > > recommended it in all future govt projects. > > In the last government, when Arun Shourie was the IT minister, he > made it clear that he does not differentiate between the two > software development practices, FreeSoftware and Proprietary, and > each should get equal chances to grow. Naturally. It's not his money he's spending. Besides being ill informed the ministers are also irresponsible. And Arun shourie is one ignorant who thinks that he knows everything. In more recent times he has admitted as much about his past quixotic crusades. That apart, by enclosing public data in closed formats the government is PROMOTING somebody elses business and forcing the public to purchase software to access that data. rgds jtd

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Linux Mail Client - Threads like GMail
by SG Lists 16 Aug '05

16 Aug '05

Is anyone aware of a Linux mail client that allows one to view the message threads like it is viewed in the web-based gmail account?? Basically view all the threads in one page. Of the mail clients i use - Thunderbird and Kontact - the threads are listed and one has to go to each thread to view its content. -sg

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Maharashtra signs MOU with M$
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 16 Aug '05

16 Aug '05

*snip* >Maybe we r not spreading enough awareness, besides rampant piracy aint >helping either. For people windows is free in any case and this makes >it harder to make them see the light. Most of the people know... the trouble is accountability, ease of use, trained people. * Accountability so that the govt can point to someone the next time they screw up. * Ease of use so that the machines help the ppl and not the other way around (so far I have only recommend Knoppix and Suse for hassle-free installs, not tried all of course). * Trained people - I think as on today, it is definitely easier to get 10 ppl who can maintain a Windows zone than to get the same who can maintain a Linux installation. (no matter the viruses, the service packs, the cost,...) * Killer Applications. Something like a spreadsheet can be put to uses no one ever thinks of. Most people don't care if their OS is the most stable thing on earth.. as long as it does not get in their way of getting their job done. >One suggession, maybe targetting college festivals like malhar and >mood i will be a good idea and we can try and explain what free >software is all about. Man..That will be one empty place, apart from the stoned ones.

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Linuxers August 2005