Linuxers August 2005

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Maharashtra signs MOU with M$
by Arun K. Khan 18 Aug '05

18 Aug '05

> From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)thenilgiris.com> > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 06:55:38 +0530 > The growth of open source movement in India, in the last analysis, is > *solely* dependant on the amount of open source code produced here > simple, no code, no movement Amen, you have echoed my thoughts so succintly. For a global IT power, the number of OSS projects out of India is disproportionate. One sees very few names from SE Asia in the program/project credits list. Not only have the Indian IT power houses like Infosys, Wipro, HCL, etc. not taken any initiative like IBM, HP, Intel and such sponsoring OSDL (for example in the US), the educational institutions also seem to be caught in the web of the incumbent OS with few offerings on FOSS. The emphasis seems to be on teaching how to use packaged tools rather than fundamentals or concepts. IMO, a good start would be - the IT power houses and the educational institutions to get together and adopt an existing Indianized distro and ensure it continuance with updates/extensions (similar to Red Flag distro in China). The students under guidance could contribute code to defined projects. Their work would also count for credit towards completing their education, the funding could come from the Industry. -- -- Arun Khan Linux is like a wigwam - no gates, no windows, apache inside

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Issue with python pexpect
by Vikrant Gaonkar 18 Aug '05

18 Aug '05

Hello friends. I am facing a problem with pexpect(python expect). I want to take config of a router to a file. But when accessing the router configuration it comes at a prompt More and where the user has to press the spacebar key.My script presses the space bar key automatically but this process works only 5-7 times after that it comes and stops at the More prompt. Can anyone tell me why this is happening.Moreover it happens for all the routers as well as swithes. ____________________________________________________ Send a rakhi to your brother, buy gifts and win attractive prizes. Log on to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/rakhi/index.html

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Maharashtra signs MOU with M$
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 18 Aug '05

18 Aug '05

And why does the government require M$ when the the likes of TCS, Infosys, Wipro and others here are grabbing major contracts and sub contracts for egovernance from all and sundry. Or are they just microeserfs of the great frod HM BG. rgds jtd

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Querry about Sharing Mail Setup
by neel s Gurjar 18 Aug '05

18 Aug '05

hi > Clients have POP3 accounts of Yahoo & Gawab. Here we have one > computer Having Win 98. On that i have install Winproxy. By > winproxy I share internet and POP3 Mail. Also Clients PC have also > Win 98 and Outlook Express to check mail. Now I want shift this > setup to Linux. But first i want to transfer Server computer to > linux. In this I have installed Linux on One system. Then I shared internet by Squid Proxy Server. But In squid I didnot find any Mail Sharing Options like Winproxy. So How can I share this mail setup ? Please Help.. Neelesh

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MRTG Problem
by Rajendra Rait 18 Aug '05

18 Aug '05

Hi all, I am trying to configure mrtg, i had succedded in doing the half way, but while trying to generate the graphs using indexmaker i land up with error. # indexmaker --output /var/www/mrtg/test.html /etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg After executing this command i get this error. Use of uninitialized value in hash element at /usr/bin/indexmaker line 340. Please if some could help me out of this. Thanks in advance. Regards, Rajendra Rait.

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GMail Search trouble
by Puneet Lakhina 18 Aug '05

18 Aug '05

Hi all.. I have subscribed to the digest form of the ilug bombay mailing list.. The problem is that when i search for anything in gmail it does not show any results from the mailing list mails.. apart from those in the sent mail.. ie the ones i post.. any clue why is this...?? THanks, Puneet

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re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux router tends to crash and burn...
by Arun K. Khan 17 Aug '05

17 Aug '05

On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 09:09 +0530, linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: > From: Dinesh Joshi <dinesh.a.joshi(a)gmail.com> > Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:00:17 +0000 > my debian router tends to do just that after a while of operation. > The > problem is basically it gives some harddisk related errors. But the > harddisk checks out fine. I just need to format and reinstall debian > and everything starts working fine. > > The hardware is quite old. It's a P1 166MHz, 1GB Seagate HD, 64MB > RAM. > Help is appreciated. Most likely your HDD is on it's way out, even though it may be checking out fine later. I suggest you replace the HDD. I have seen SCSI disks appear and disappear on HBA scans - when they appeared they worked fine but ... they eventually RIP'd. Also, I presume you have looked at cooling issues - overheating can cause weird symptoms. -- Arun Khan <knura(a)yahoo.com> Linux is a wigwam: No Windows, No Gates, Apache inside.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Maharashtra signs MOU with M$
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 17 Aug '05

17 Aug '05

On Tuesday 16 August 2005 22:01, Vickram Crishna wrote: > At 5:31 PM +0530 16/8/05, Anand M R wrote: > > > That apart, by enclosing public data in closed formats the > > > government > >> > >> is PROMOTING somebody elses business and forcing the public to > >> purchase software to access that data. > > > >Since its our money (as taxpayers) can we do something about it?? > > Actually, I don't think that use of the formats is totally closed - > otherwise how could they be readable in OpenOffice? For this reason It is. And some of it is patented to boot. Staroffice (i dont remember the company name) paid top dollars to get the formats and use as they please. Sun purchased Staroffice and split it into staroffice (closed) and openoffice (gpld afaik). They did that as a strategy for their javadesktop and to hit M$. Staroffice has several "features" enabling it to read M$ files better than Oo - at least according to reviews. I have never used SO. > only (and please correct me if I'm wrong here) castigating the > government for promoting someone's business is not on. I repeat It is. Not only are they promoting someone elses company with taxpayers money, the govt. is doing business with a company castigated and convicted by it's own government and courts repeatedly for illegal business practices. There is a whole host of other reasons which will require a book rather than a mail to enumerate. Yesterdays edit page in Eco " Intellectual property rights and wrongs" by Joseph Stiglitz sheds light on some issues. > > However, making full use of the data is only possible with > specialised software, which in this case is proprietary. Making any use of any electronic data is only possible with specialised software. Since the data is public the tools to use it should be public and the formats in which is stored should be unencumbered so that anyone can create tools to make better use of such data. Most of us cant even begin to imagine the possible uses of data 5 yrs later let alone 125 yrs later (think metereology records). Instead of reducing the barriers to data usage (which is the point of computerisation) the govt is raising the stakes. > That > wouldn't be so bad, if it was a one time purchase Why?. I can think of hundred better uses for my paisa than funding a crooked company, to access my own data. > (can think of > lots of parallels from other industry sectors), I am sure the assumptions will be flawed. > What can one do about it? Can someone get hold of the mou under the right to information act? Fredrick Noronha / RH / Novell are you there?. Hope springs eternally u know. rgds jtd

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Linux router tends to crash and burn...
by Dinesh Joshi 17 Aug '05

17 Aug '05

Hi, my debian router tends to do just that after a while of operation. The problem is basically it gives some harddisk related errors. But the harddisk checks out fine. I just need to format and reinstall debian and everything starts working fine. The hardware is quite old. It's a P1 166MHz, 1GB Seagate HD, 64MB RAM. Help is appreciated. Regards. -- Dinesh A. Joshi

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Jobs in FOSS [was: Fresher needs help!!]
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Energy) 17 Aug '05

17 Aug '05

>Remember the old adage, "A hacker does for love what others would not do >for money". I also remember my parents yelling stop lounging and get a Job ! So if you don't have a daddy MoneyBags, might be better if you take the first good one that comes your way after you've tried for say about 3-4 months looking for something you like. Then Keep looking n jump (this is a universal parallel task) It gets pretty desperate at times... but once you are on the other side, you wonder what was all the fuss about... -Gishu

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