Linuxers August 2006

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Debian
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

Yesterday, ie. 16th of August was the 13th birthday of the Debian Project. Here is wishing it a belated Happy Birthday! Cheers, Debarshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] An appeal
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

> > Apart from that, if every member of this list donates Rs. 50 each, the > > problem will be suitably resolved. After all what is Rs. 50 for the > > future of the license which has been the cornerstone of FOSS for so > > many years. > Ok, How to do it? > Have you opened any account (ICICI/HDFC) where money can be deposited > locally. The following excerpt from the original mail might help you. > consider becoming taking fellowship (http://www.gnu.org.in/fellowship). > > http://www.gnu.org.in/donate#account > > FSF Account information: > > Free Software Foundation of India. > Acc No : 632000002698 > Bank : HDFC Bank LTD. > Branch : Trivandrum. > > FSF India have 80G status under Income Tax Act. All donations to FSF > India are tax-deductible (by order number: C. No > 302/ADIT(E)/24/2005-05 Dated: 25/01/06 ). > > Please note that, for the time being, we are unable to accept > donations from outside India. Cheers, Debarshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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Re: RMS in Mumbai
by vvcrishna＠radiophony.com 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

Quoting Nagarjuna : > From: "G." <nagarjun(a)gnowledge.org> > On 8/16/06, jtd <jtd(a)mtnl.net.in> wrote: > > > > - The word 'free' in Free software was about freedom and not > > > > price > > > > > > > > So in my case the ideology happened after 5 years of using the > > > > software. :-) > > > > > > In essence, Free software and Open Source software mean the same > > > thing. > > > > They dont mean the same thing all though they refer to the same body > > of software. > > > > I wish to add something here, something I learned in my graduate > courses in Philosophy some 12 years ago. There is an expression > called 'evening star', and another called 'morning star'. They both > refer to the same thing, namely the planet, venus. Since this object > appears first to the naked eye, and is very bright that can be seen > even before dark, it is called by this name. The expressions have > different meanings, but the same reference. But the name 'Planet > Venus' clarifies that it is not a star, but planet, and the notiion of > what astronomical objects are planet are well defined. Actually, the concept of planet was not at all well defined, it wasn't defined at all reasonably until today, when a meeting of astronomers decided to include Xena, Charon and Ceres as planets, pushing the known planets total to 12. Maybe the astrological significance of Free Software is aligned to this, which is why there is such argument and confusion about GNU and Linux. --- Vickram

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Fwd: Freedel 2006: Call for Papers
by Gaurav Mishra 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Raj Mathur <raju(a)linux-delhi.org> Date: Aug 14, 2006 11:37 PM Subject: Freedel 2006: Call for Papers To: ilugd(a)lists.linux-delhi.org, linux-india-help(a)lists.sourceforge.net, mancom(a)linux-delhi.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, The annual ILUG-Delhi event, Freedel, is back in it's 2006 avatar. Partnering with Jawaharlal Nehru University, this year we have the following streams: - - Servers and Administration - - Desktop Applications - - Education - - Multi-lingual and Localisation - - Applications (from web to desktop to server) - - Multi-media and graphics The event will be held on September 16 and 17, 2006 at the Bio-Informatics Centre and Auditorium, Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi. The talk formats will be: - - 40-minute seminar-style presentations with 10 minutes for Q&A - - 1/2-day in-depth tutorials on basic FOSS topics - - Informal talks in the lawns (or the lab if infrastructure is needed) - - BoF sessions You are invited to present a paper in any of the streams that interests you. The process for paper submission and acceptance is: 1. Submit an one-page abstract of your talk. Mention special infrastructure that you will require for your talk. 2. A ``select group'' (i.e. the usual gang of suspects) reviews your abstract and shortlists it. 3. You are notified that your paper has been selected. 4. Submit the presentation material for the paper (in OOo Impress or PDF format). 5. Make the presentation at the event. If you are interested, please make a one-page abstract of your talk and mail it to: talks(a)linux-delhi.org The last date for submission of abstracts is August 28, 2006 The short list will be announced on September 4, 2006 The last date for acceptance of the presentation material is September 11, 2006 Please note that abstracts received after August 28 will not be considered for talks. Similarly, talks for which presentation material has not reached by September 11 will be knocked off the schedule. All presentation material must be available for redistribution under a FLOSS-type license. Members of LUGs across the country are invited to participate and present at the event. If you act soon, we would be glad to share the cost of your travel to/from Delhi, finances permitting. Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur raju(a)kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 <http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/> iD8DBQFE4LvTyWjQ78xo0X8RAvJFAJ4ohvMm/2dao+ojf3+DHxhL5ggyEgCeMVkR 916NYXRn5XFPJE02nlLUk5o= =SBCz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Linux User #348873 ILUGD Commitee Member, GZLUG , DGLUG Moderator Software Trainee @ Xavient B.Tech 4th Year Computer Science , RKGIT , Ghaziabad http://rockybhai.blogspot.com "When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward"

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Burning CDs on GNU/Linux
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

Found this nice link regarding usage of cdrecord to write CDs in GNU/Linux through the command line. Thought someone might find it useful. http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-cdburn.html#heading_e Cheers, Debarshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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[OT] An appeal
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

> As a result FSF India does not have these extra funds at > this moment. We thought of bringing this to the notice of free > software community, and explore the possibility of support. This is an > appeal to contribute to FSF India. Since we do not have enough time > to make alternative arrangements we seek your active support at this > needy hour. Even if the support is small from each of you, if more > people give a small sum, we will be able to make sure this will > happen. The additional required budget is around Rs. 150,000/- (or > around $3000/-). If you also know any one who could sponsor a ticket > or part of the ticket do let us know. > > The conference registration was kept free and we thought we could > manage well with our earlier budgets. Conference registration > continues to be free, but do consider sending donations. You may also > consider becoming taking fellowship (http://www.gnu.org.in/fellowship). Apart from that, if every member of this list donates Rs. 50 each, the problem will be suitably resolved. After all what is Rs. 50 for the future of the license which has been the cornerstone of FOSS for so many years. Regards, Debarshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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Commercial: NGO is looking for Open Software solution
by Mika Jokivuori 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

Hi all, I am representative of NGO and we are looking for open software (LAMP) solution for our needs. 1) First we are creating web base solution to manage our child sponsorship system. More info about child sponsorship, please visit Plan International (http://www.plan-international.org/) or World Vision (http://www.wvi.org/). 2) Secondly we are looking for web base solution to manage our bulleting board, document archives and calendar. If your organisation is ready to help us to get our "dreams" to reality, please send an email to me. We are not a commercial company, but grass-root level organisation that is working for uplifting underprivileged people so we may not be able to pay great amount. Yours, Mr. Mika Jokivuori, Regional Co-ordinator, Fida International Email: mika.jokivuori(a)fida.in

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Coreutils version 6.0 has been released.
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

Following is a mail announcing the release of GNU Coreutils 6.00 from the info-gnu list (http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnu). It seems that this version has fixed a segmentation fault related problem while using 'shred' on Gentoo systems. I though some Gentoo lover would find this useful. Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:27:40 +0200 From: Jim Meyering <jim(a)meyering.net> Subject: coreutils-6.0 released To: info-gnu(a)gnu.org, coreutils-announce(a)gnu.org Cc: translation(a)iro.umontreal.ca, bug-coreutils(a)gnu.org Message-ID: <873bbyggsz.fsf(a)rho.meyering.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Coreutils version 6.0 has been released. If you haven't heard about the GNU coreutils, the FAQ is a good place to start: http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/ Coreutils development branched after the stable 5.92 release. Since then, there have been five releases from the stable branch: 5.93 through 5.97. I hope to make no more releases from that branch. Coreutils 6.0 is the first release off the trunk since 5.92, and considering the number and scope of the changes, I've labeled it "unstable". However, many of the changes have been for improved robustness and portability, and even the bug fixes usually address unlikely failure scenarios. That said, the changes are numerous enough and invasive enough that there are probably a few new bugs. There is a new, implicit build requirement: To build the coreutils from source, you should have a C99-conforming compiler, due to the use of declarations after non-declaration statements in remove.c. There is code in configure to find and, if possible, enable an appropriate compiler. However, if configure doesn't find a C99 compiler, it continues nonetheless, and your build will fail. If that happens, simply patch remove.c with the following command, and run make again: cd src && patch remove.c c99-to-c89.diff Here are some highlights from the NEWS below: There are six new programs: base64: base64 encoding and decoding (RFC 3548) functionality by Simon Josefsson sha224sum: print or check a SHA224 (224-bit) checksum sha256sum: print or check a SHA256 (256-bit) checksum sha384sum: print or check a SHA384 (384-bit) checksum sha512sum: print or check a SHA512 (512-bit) checksum by David Madore (based on work by Ulrich Drepper and Scott Miller) shuf: shuffle lines of text by Paul Eggert We've finally added some often-requested functionality for ls, with its new option: --group-directories-first, by Francesco Montorsi. rm has a new -I option, added by Eric Blake: rm now accepts the -I (--interactive=once) option. This new option prompts once if rm is invoked recursively or if more than three files are being deleted, which is less intrusive than -i prompting for every file, but provides almost the same level of protection against mistakes. For the complete summary of changes, see the NEWS section below. Special thanks to Paul Eggert for his many contributions. Thanks to everyone else who contributed changes (attributions are in the ChangeLog files), reported problems, and helped by fielding questions on the mailing list. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The GNU coreutils package contains the following programs: [ base64 basename cat chgrp chmod chown chroot cksum comm cp csplit cut date dd df dir dircolors dirname du echo env expand expr factor false fmt fold ginstall groups head hostid hostname id join kill link ln logname ls md5sum mkdir mkfifo mknod mv nice nl nohup od paste pathchk pinky pr printenv printf ptx pwd readlink rm rmdir seq sha1sum sha224sum sha256sum sha384sum sha512sum shred shuf sleep sort split stat stty su sum sync tac tail tee test touch tr true tsort tty uname unexpand uniq unlink uptime users vdir wc who whoami yes Here are the compressed sources: ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/coreutils/coreutils-6.0.tar.gz (7.9MB) ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/coreutils/coreutils-6.0.tar.bz2 (5.1MB) Here are the xdelta-style diffs: ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/coreutils/coreutils-5.92-6.0.xdelta (1.9MB) <snip> shred --remove FILE no longer segfaults on Gentoo systems sort would fail for large inputs (~50MB) on systems with a buggy mkstemp function. sort and tac now use the replacement mkstemp function, and hence are no longer subject to limitations (of 26 or 32, on the maximum number of files from a given template) on HP-UX 10.20, SunOS 4.1.4, Solaris 2.5.1 and OSF1/Tru64 V4.0F&V5.1. tail -f once again works on a file with the append-only attribute (affects at least Linux ext2, ext3, xfs file systems) NB: I removed part of the original post since I was afraid that it was too long to be blocked by the lists. Neither could I give a link since the post has not yet been archived. Cheerio, Debarshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] RMS in Mumbai
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

> true - i started using linux in 1996, and the first time i heard > about RMS was around 2002. And so far i havent read a single thing he > has written - although i have read almost everything ESR has written. Not even the GNU GPL? So you know about 'The Cathedral and The Bazaar', while not having read the GNU GPL? I do not have words to describe this. >> it's about the whole society. No matter how many ``Linux'' users are >> there in this world or how many companies support ``Open Source'', the >> whole Free Software revolution will remain a failure as long as we >> don't understand what Freedom is. > i beg to differ - it will remain a failure in India at least until > people stopped sounding off and started writing code Write code for Microsoft or Apple? Regards, Debarshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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When and Where is RMS coming
by PenguinPuPPy 15 Aug '06

15 Aug '06

Hello LUG. Well i was just scanning by and learnt that RMS is coming to Mumbai could anybody please let me know when and where is he coming ? secondly when is the next meet scheduled anybody who can help. Thanks -- To Love The Penguin(aka TUX) You Need To Be As Faithful As A Puppy

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Linuxers August 2006