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gaurav.p.chaturvedi@gmail.com wants to 3D IM w/ you on IMVU
by Guest_gaurav2004 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] gaurav.p.chaturvedi@gmail.com wants to 3D IM w/ you on IMVU
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

> why are you taking this personaly? I am not. > What i am emphasising is that the concept of moderation is > inherently evil as it sets up one person in judgement over others. > Which is alien to the philosophy of freedom we support here. We are > not china, with 30,0000 big brothers looking after our behaviour and > habits. Ah. Moderation is evil, because it sets up one person in judgement over the others? So are you indicating that kicking/banning requires NO judgement. I find this funny. > anyone stupid enough, careless enough to get his mail account > infected by such viruses is a menace to the community and deserves to > be booted. You dont blame the birds that get flu - you just cull them So next time you get infected by a fever, malaria, or any infectious disease be prepared to get KILLED, and NOT CURED. > law and democracy have nothing to do with mailing lists. Admin is the > boss - if he boots you are booted. Wonderful. I am impressed. But going by your previous argument "moderation is inherently evil as it sets up one person in judgement over others", don't you think this is self-contradictory? > please distinguish between mere breaches of etiquette - not trimming > posts, top posting, getting OT, being longwinded, using smsspeak - > with behaviour that damages the list. The first requires peer > pressure to rectify, but the second can only be cured with the boot. > And i think anything personal you may have against me could be taken > offlist. Nonsense. You mean to say that ONE spam is going to destroy the list, while HUNDREDs of OTs and other nuisances are mere breaches of etiquette. What if I say that the spam was another OT post missing the appropriate tag? I mean I am simply unable to distinguish. Cheers, Debarshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Meebo
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

>> unusual. But I think you have not got the whole picture. I did not >> make Meebo, they dont pay me. All I want is a solution. A workable >> solution. You have said these same things last time this whole >> discussion cropped up. But where is the alternative? I stop using >> Meebo. Fine. So how do I IM. > I've already built a partial solution for you to use. It's up to you to > take it forward. I've been looking for new developers for over two > years, and no one has stepped forward. > If you're interested, try http://libyahoo2.sourceforge.net/ I am very much interested. I am already on the libyahoo mailing list, but I joined 1.5 years back when I was still a n00b. I recently heard from Dr. Nagarjuna that you had authored libyahoo, and had heard about Freehoo and Freetalk independently while browsing the Web many that same 1.5 years back. Could you just give me a pointer as what the issue exactly is? I mean what is the difference between the Windoze and the Free client? I heard that the Windows client keeps scanning the ports and picks one which is available. Is this the 'magic'? Looking forward to the libyahoo project page... Happy hacking, Debarshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Meebo
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

> I work behind a very restrictive firewall too, and we (people in my org) > realized that the communication in all the clients is happening over http. > The clients "tunnel" their protocols over http and hence it works. > If you use gaim, you may want to go to advanced settings and try giving port > numbers as 20, 23 and 80 to see if yahoo, gtalk and MSN start working. Thanks for the interest. But I had tried this in the past and I tried it just now. Does not work. GMail (on GAIM) simpy said 'port x tunneling not allowed', while Yahoo (on GAIM) gave a 'write error' for port 80. Other messages were the same for GTalk. GAIM would start working out of the box, if the ports are opened. I know this since the ports were opened temporarily and they just worked. Let me tell this list, that in the period when GAIM was working people (including most Windoze users) became a huge fan of GAIM. GAIM was preferred over and above the GTalk and Yahoo! Messenger clients. > I have not tried it, hence can't comment. But this has been tried in our > organization. With what results? Cheers, Debarshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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Want the linux setup....
by Amey Salvi 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

hi all i want to shift to linux ...... from where can i download the setup plz guide me and give me the links thanks to all

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Meebo
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

> Remember the hulla ballo that was created when someone > suggested using meebo? :O That someone was me. If you really want it, then we can have a nice debate on this, and I can clearly explain to you why it was at all needed. Why blame meebo? Because its the new kid on the block, and not as big as Yahoo! MSN, or Google? How do you know that the big names are not giving out your ID to some unwanted place? And yes Kenneth, I think you are going way over board. Who are you to decide to boot the chap? Sure he has made a mistake. But then I don't think that has been repeated by him. Who are you to single handedly force the point that people need to be booted without any warning? I mean I thought this mailing list's code of conduct was drafted by some knowledgeable person in a reasonably democratic way. Ok Hyderabad does it, Chennai does, so what? So what man? You are taking this issue to such an extent as to start another deluge of OT posts. Tell me onething everybody. What happens if your mail account gets infected by viruses of the sort that keep sending mails to all the addresses in our address book. Its theoretically all right to talk about how one should not give around his ID, blah, blah.... But in such a case you are realy the victim and not the transgressor. This one spam is NOTHING compared to the deluge of OT threads, which got the whole list a very bad name. (Read ilug-cal archives.) Dont make this fellow a scapegoat. Regards, Debarshi -- Dinesh A. Joshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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Free Linux from the makers of Lindows (Linspire)
by kunal gangar 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

Hello, This is a new open source linux called the Freespire. Short Introduction: Freespire is a community-driven, Linux-based operating system that combines the best that free, open source software has to offer (community driven, freely distributed, open source code, etc.), but also provides users the choice of including proprietary codecs, drivers and applications<http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Summary_of_Proprietary_Components>as they see fit. With Freespire, the choice is yours as to what software is installed on your computer, with no limitations or restrictions placed on that choice. How you choose to maximize the performance of your computer is entirely up to you. Well, please reply back if you try this. And is it better than SLED? www.freespire.org -- Kunal Gangar. Editor, Tech Ticker http://www.techtickerblog.com

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NRC-FOSS is looking for project scientists
by Kenneth Gonsalves 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

hi, no apologies for not tagging this as [commercial][OT] because it is not. NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC, MIT campus, Anna University Chennai is a project funded by the DIT for the pupose of development of FOSS in India. In addition to propagation of FOSS, we are now trying to build a world standard academic and research programme centred round FOSS. Backed by proven expertise of the AU-KBC centre in the fields of mathematics, cryptography, pattern recognition, life-sciences, wireless and bio-informatics, we are building certificate, diploma and postgraduate programmes centred around FOSS on one side and building and releasing FOSS applications in these fields on the other side. We invite interested people to join us. Details of the posts are at: http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/full/12/AN/ No, we dont offer multinational salaries. Yes, we believe in academic freedom, a relaxed atmosphere, 24/7 working labs and offices, no dress code, intellectual stimulation. (And, yes, again, this *is* happening in a Govt of India Project). Our goal is to produce FOSS code and train people to do this - and enjoy doing this. Our motto is 'Foss is Fun'. Join the fun. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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OpenSSL License revoked
by Mohan Krishnan 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

An interesting development. OpenSSL lincense has been revoked (later rescinded to "suspended" status ). Pl. read http://www.itworldcanada.com/a/Daily-News/b6cfd84f-8646-4318-b231-1e80ca29e… - Mohan Krishnan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Meebo
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

> You know what? those internet access restrictions are there so that > you spend your time in your work/studies. Not really. They just encourage more and more people to fall in love with Winblows, and leave me to waste my study-time in finding a solution. :-| /me runs after Anurag. Cheerio, Debarshi -- "I'm tired of all this nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. That's deep enough. What do you want, an adorable pancreas?" -Jean Kerr

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