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[OT] MTNL Triband Nu Users Beware - Part Of Your Downloads During Nu Hours May Be Charged To Your Non-nu Quota Of 1gb/mo.
by Arun K. Khan 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

In May 2006, ~173MB download during NU hours got charged to my non-NU 1GB/mo. quota. For details go to following link: http://www.broadbandforum.in/Triband-Nu-Users-Beware-Part-Of-Your-Downloads… -- Arun Khan (knura at yahoo dot com) Schapiro's Explanation: The grass is always greener on the other side -- but that's because they use more manure.

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Share your views with LFY: CommunitySpeak Episode 2
by Janani Gopalakrishnan 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

Hello all, Greetings from the Linux For You team! As you all know, last month we launched a new initiative called CommunitySpeak where we pose a question to various ILUG mailing lists and publish the top five responses (selected by our technical editors) in the magazine. Thanks to all those who responded to last month's question on "why a majority of the world's top 10 supercomputers are powered by Linux". The best five among the responses received are to be published in the July 2006 issue of LFY. The selected responses were sent by Vishnu Vyas (Chennai), S R Parthan (Chennai), R Subramanian (Chennai), Manu Konchady (Bangalore) and P Sriram (Chennai). Thanks again for your participation. This month we have chosen the topic: "What would make a Windows user pick up a Linux magazine?" No, this is not a marketing tactic. We are *really* curious. What would make Windows users pick up a Linux magazine? How can we convince them to read about and adopt Linux and other free and open source software? Would they be interested in reading about free business software than run on Windows? What's your take on this? Our eyes and ears are wide open and we are waiting to listen to your ideas. Please write to us at writetojanani(a)gmail.com with a CC to atul.goel(a)efyindia.com before July 5th 2006. The top five responses will be published in the August 2006 issue of Linux for You. Look forward to your responses. Thanks, Janani Gopalakrishnan, Freelance Writer Atul Goel, Asst. Associate Editor, LFY

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Help with CGI
by Krishna Dagli/Krushna Dagli 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

> > Thanks for your instant support. What I am trying to do is > > simply run the Linux O.S. commands using CGI + Apache. > > Not sure what linux OS commands are, and reserving my comments on what a > bad idea this is, but anyway... > > > a) In httpd.conf > > ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin/ > > Ok, this is fine. > > > b) Started Perl > > /usr/bin/perl -w & > > And what is this supposed to do? It's basically a no-op. perl will > sleep forever, never doing anything. Ever. You do not need this. > > > Now I am not exactly Knowing What to do . If someone can give me in > > simple steps a simple configuration and sample CGI script + I will be > > reading the links sent by you guys > > Put your executable files in /usr/local/apache2/cgi-bin/ > Make sure they are executable > Run them from the browser using http://yourserver/cgi-bin/filename Try following script as your cgi test. #!/usr/bin/perl print "Content-type: text/html\n\n"; while (($key, $val) = each %ENV) { print "$key = $val \n"; } -Krishna

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problem with flash player
by bombay news 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

I have downloaded Macromedia Flash Player 7, but cannot install it in Opera 9. I get the following error msg: Macromedia Flash Player 7 will be installed in the following directory: Opera installation directory = /home/shivkumar/.opera Proceed with the installation? (y/n/q): y cp: cannot stat `/home/shivkumar/Desktop/libflashplayer.so': No such file or dir ectory chmod: cannot access `/home/shivkumar/.opera/plugins/libflashplayer.so': No such file or directory Installation complete. Pl. help sk _________________________________________________________________ Shah Rukh fan? Know all about the Baadshah of Bollywood. On MSN Search http://server1.msn.co.in/profile/shahrukh.asp

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problem with flash player
by bombay news 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

I have downloaded Macromedia Flash Player 7, but cannot install it in Opera 9. I get the following error msg: Macromedia Flash Player 7 will be installed in the following directory: Opera installation directory = /home/shivkumar/.opera Proceed with the installation? (y/n/q): y cp: cannot stat `/home/shivkumar/Desktop/libflashplayer.so': No such file or dir ectory chmod: cannot access `/home/shivkumar/.opera/plugins/libflashplayer.so': No such file or directory Installation complete. Pl. help sk _________________________________________________________________ Sexy, sultry, sensuous. - see why Bipasha Basu is all that and more. Try MSN Search http://server1.msn.co.in/Profile/bipashabasu.asp

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Deleting last line in a Dir
by Mangesh V Rakhunde 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

Hi How can I delete last line from all files from a Directory Bye Mangesh

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 38, Issue 50
by durvesh chury 28 Jun '06

28 Jun '06

Hi , I am a young & new linux user of Mumbai would u please send me a DVD copy of fedora core 5 on the following address 'E' 204 Marigold c.h.s. THAKUR VILLAGE kANDIVALI 'E' MUMBAI 400101

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Help with CGI
by ryan coelho 28 Jun '06

28 Jun '06

Hi Guys, I have been wanting to configure cgi-bin with apache. I have done it before and now I am having no luck. I want to do this on Red Hat 9. Pls help and guide me . Thanks & Regards Ryan

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MTNL to launch WiMAX
by Sameer Bagwe 28 Jun '06

28 Jun '06

Read about this news on another forum. Searched google and found this. http://tenders.gov.in/innerpage.asp?choice=tc5 <http://tenders.gov.in/innerpage.asp?choice=tc5&tid=del25625&work=1> &tid=del25625&work=1 Regards.

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Ping capture tool
by Vishal 27 Jun '06

27 Jun '06

I'm working on Network in which Mumbai is central location with 10-12 locations connected over WAN . I'm looking out for for tool which can capture ping report (latency ) between Mumbai to that particular location . Currently I'm using a batch file which captures ping 10 times and creates a TXT file (ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -n 10 >cochin.txt) . Can any one sugesst me an tool which can directly capture ping results . Regards Vishal

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Janabhaaratii seeks translators for Hindi, Marathi, Gujarati, Bengali, Malayalam...
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

Empanelment of translators & janabhaaratii Translation Workshop ________________________________________________________________________ http://www.janabhaaratii.org.in/janabhaaratii/page_gen.php?lang=en&body=/an… janabhaaratii project at C-DAC, Mumbai funded by Technology Development in Indian Language (TDIL) Group of Ministry of Communication &IT, Govt. of India is a community oriented Indian language initiative. We plan to bring computing power to non-English speaking people by translating the desktop menus, help messages, files, FAQ's, error messages etc of GNU Linux System in various Indian languages. To begin with – translations in the Hindi, Marathi, Gujarati, Bengali, Malayalam languages are planned. Through janabhaaratii project, we have already made available live CD's for these languages that one can use to input, edit, and display & print Indian language text easily. We would like to invite prospective translators who can contribute to this work on a payment basis. We will hold workshops to acquaint them with the following on 2nd Friday of every month: * Familiarity with Indian Language text processing using GNU/Linux platform. * Different kinds of translations & issues thereof. * Tools to support translations. We would also like to empanel translators for doing this task. In case you are interested Please fill the form & submit.

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Hosting Google Calendar Mobile Edition
by Francis 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

Hi , I was wondering if anyone here in Mumbai hosts websites on their GNU/Linux driven computers . I have the Mobile edition of the Google Calendar which I have been working on as my Final year college project which I need to host . Please contact me off the list . Also let me know the fees for the hosting . Francis Pereira Rainy Days ! !

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ubuntu dapper drake
by Abhishek Daga 25 Jun '06

25 Jun '06

i looked up buylinuxdvd.com but they do not carry dapper drake ubuntu 6.01. I am looking for both the desktop and server version. If anyone can spare copies in exchange for blanks, (CDs), i'd appreciate it. thanks abhishek __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ubuntu dapper drake
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 25 Jun '06

25 Jun '06

> yes there is a seperate cd for server, the desktop cd is a live cd which can > be installed from the live booted system like knoppix. How to order the CD for servers? I did not notice anything on the Shipit site. Cheers, Debarshi

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not able to view Inbox on kmail
by TAC Forums 25 Jun '06

25 Jun '06

Hi , We have LTS on a debian 3.1 system Today, the /home partition got full due to some reason. And ever since that happened..every body on the server gor there kmail's crashed. After we removed unwanted files from /home , and when every one logged back in, there inbox was empty.Every body's..but the rest of the folders were there as it is. We can see the meessages in the /home/user/Mail/inbox/cur folder, but somehow Kmail is not able to view them.. Can any one help with this? Regards, Boskey -- TAC Support Team

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Billy baba resigning [OT yawn]
by vvcrishna＠radiophony.com 25 Jun '06

25 Jun '06

Quoting Siddhesh: > On 6/20/06, Rony <ronbillypop(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > files. After I installed linux in his system, surprisingly he > > practically stopped calling. The only 2 times I have had to go to his > > That's quite interesting. I noticed a similar behaviour with my mother > in case of her quite successful) migration to GNU/Linux. The main > reason for that seems to be buttons and dialogs actually explaining > what it wants them to do. Anything kicks "OK/Cancel"'s a$$ ;-) > I just suffered a major Mac OSX crash...some hw problem that I haven't yet pinned down. But practically all my data is back now, thanks to third party proprietary software tools and loads of help from Mac users. Similarly, when I have problems with my RH9 installation, I get help from this and other users. But in comparison, although there were some sneers here (I thought) about Mac's Unix framework, the level of help and ease of fixing a serious problem was a different grade. I am sure a command line recovery would have worked pretty effectively, but would have presented me with a steeper learning curve, instead of which I got a clear and simple graphic utility which allowed me to see my destroyed files and save them back to my remote hdd with a series of clicks. I used to be a fairly neat hand at Windows, but can't even imagine wasting my time fixing its problems when they arise, and with the level of weaknesses and attacks commonplace today, that is just too often for my comfort. Looking back on the last 15-16 years of Windows development, I just think that Gates lost control, and perhaps was seduced by the incredible success and money. Yes, you can fool most of the poeople most of the time, but for someone else to do it better takes a fresh approach - Apple had nothing to lose and so could gamble on Next's experience, but the Linux world does not seem to be quite grasped of the urgency of the opportunity - at least not in India. I have seen some attempts from India to do creative things, but on the whole depressingly little - certainly too little for the kind of interest levels and keenness one sees on this and other lists. I don't know what the issue is, but instead of moaning about Gates' failures, we should look a little inward and evolve a way to bring out something better for ourselves. Vickram

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Need an Ubuntu Dapper Drake CD
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 25 Jun '06

25 Jun '06

> I am looking for an Ubuntu Dapper Drake CD (the latest version of Ubuntu > which launched on June 1). I live at Dahisar, so can anyone nearby help me > out? I have been trying to buy one from an online seller from Mumbai, but > for some mysterious reason, the CD is not reaching me!!! Just visit http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ or http://shipit.kubuntu.com/ depending on whether you want Ubuntu or Kubuntu, and get a stamped CD for no cost. Cheers, Debarshi

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Need an Ubuntu Dapper Drake CD
by bombay news 25 Jun '06

25 Jun '06

Dear all, I am looking for an Ubuntu Dapper Drake CD (the latest version of Ubuntu which launched on June 1). I live at Dahisar, so can anyone nearby help me out? I have been trying to buy one from an online seller from Mumbai, but for some mysterious reason, the CD is not reaching me!!! Shiv Kumar _________________________________________________________________ Shah Rukh fan? Know all about the Baadshah of Bollywood. On MSN Search http://server1.msn.co.in/profile/shahrukh.asp

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[COMMERCIAL] Linux Jobs
by Sudhir Gandotra 25 Jun '06

25 Jun '06

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winSCP update
by Abhishek Daga 24 Jun '06

24 Jun '06

I had asked for some tips on scp via windows/putty. I typed too soon i think. Heres one answer. http://www.jfitz.com/tips/ssh_for_windows.html#WinSCP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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fc3 (tecra 8100) and fc4 (desktop) function keys settings
by Abhishek Daga 24 Jun '06

24 Jun '06

I am using FC3 on a tecra 8100. Connected via ssh to a remote machine running an application written in c-tree. it requires the use of various function keys. F1 pulls up Help instead of doing what app wants it to do. F3 just spits out a character. F10 acts like the Alt key. Same for Fc4 on a std desktop. All function keys work as they are supposed with putty over winXp. Any ideas on how to resolve this where F1, F3, F10 do what the application want them to do and not what is predefined? Also, i can scp files from remote server as I am sshing into it. But can I download files from remote server on local machine using putty? thanks abhi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 38, Issue 42
by PenguinPuPPy 24 Jun '06

24 Jun '06

Hey Guys How About A meet This Sunday its been long time!

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Microsoft's New Linux-Based Wireless Network
by Sameer Bagwe 24 Jun '06

24 Jun '06

"The next time Bill Gates sends an e-mail through Microsoft's shiny new Wireless LAN it will be passed through a behind-the-scenes Linux-based network appliance. Earlier this year Microsoft and Aruba Networks jointly announced the two companies will work to replace Microsoft's existing Cisco wireless network with Aruba's centrally-managed infrastructure, which eliminates the need for individual changes on the access points. " Source: http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php/id;754084996;fp;2;fpid;1 Regards.

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linux pipes
by maini sagun 24 Jun '06

24 Jun '06

can anyonme tell me how to build pipes in linux and a little clearance on linux pipes i will be grateful.... thanx prince __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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help needed
by Ranjit Sapre 23 Jun '06

23 Jun '06

Hi all, I have installed Fedora 2 on my PC. I wish to install Oracle 8i or above on linux. Does anyone have a CD? or any advice? im in bangalore. Thanks, Ranjit

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Don't bluff yourself, GNU/Linux is essential to our students today... lessons from New Mexico
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 23 Jun '06

23 Jun '06

A fascinating note. Facts and figures that might have missed you amidst all the proprietorial software propagand. Am grateful to Dr Charles Cosse <ccosse(a)psl.nmsu.edu> who sent me this note: "Hello -- Greetings from Las Cruces, NM (USA)! Just writing a quick note of thanks for your continued efforts towards the advancement of FOSS/Linux/etc...I've enjoyed your newsletter and continue to benefit from your information dissemination. Here in Las Cruces, NM, I am attempting to assemble the pieces of a "New Mexico Linux Corps". Please have a look if you get a chance...perhaps someday if your in the area we can meet for lunch! Hope so, meanwhile, thanks again! Sincerely, Charles Cosse http://linuxcorps.nmsu.edu http://www.asymptopia.org " The only thing is that I'm almost exactly at the other end of the planet ;-) Further contacts for those interested: Charles Cossé, Ph.D. Physics & Software R&D Physical Science Laboratory New Mexico State University ccosse(a)psl.nmsu.edu 505.522.9291 (voice) 505.522.9428 (fax) PS: Free/Libre and Open Source Software doesn't just teach you *one brand* of computing. It takes you to an indepth level of learning, which allows its students to cope with any challenges that arise in future... * * * * * * * * * New Mexico Linux Corps The New Mexico Linux Corps is an outreach project at New Mexico State University which partners with interested school districts to compliment and assist their efforts as they expand the resources available to their students in terms of OpenSource software and computers running the Linux operating system. A quick survey of businesses and government institutions that rely on Linux and OpenSource, daily, serves to emphasize the need for increasing its' presence in our schools: Google, Yahoo, Pixar, Amazon, Sony, NASA, Intel, IBM, OSX, FAA, NSA, CIA, FBI, DOE, DHS, NMSU, UNM, U.S. Military, Raytheon, Locheed Martin, Boeing, General Dynamics, Zianet, Hewlett-Packard, Hughs, Harris, Los Alamos, Sandia, Autozone, Novell, Calculex, Oracle, Shell, Conoco, Home Depot, Digital Domain, U.S. Postal Service, LCPS, State of Massachusetts, State of Indiana, Motorolla, and many more. As of today, Linux is the fastest growing software and powers 8/10 of the worlds' fastest supercomputers. Many school districts around the country -- indeed, the world -- have recognized the importance of Linux and OpenSource in today's workforce, and successfully educate their students with-and-about it. As New Mexico works to preserve its' status as a center for high-tech creativity we need to empower the next generation with a more complete set of practical skills to implement their innovations. The long-term benefit to the State of New Mexico will be the production of graduates with familiarity and capabilities in an area upon-which our local economies increasingly rely. We are currently in the process of advancing our program to provide modest financial support for a handful of mobile tech-staff to assist interested schools in Southern New Mexico with installation, training, application development, and technical support. We look forward to working together with these pioneering schools to expand the educational opportunities for their students, our future. Teaching with-and-about Linux and OpenSource has the potential to profoundly affect the lives of many students in positive ways. The New Mexico Linux Corps project remains committed to serving the students, the schools and the State of New Mexico. -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Yahoomessenger: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | fred(a)bytesforall.org Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9822122436 ---------------------------------------------------------- AsiaCommons' blog http://www.asia-commons.net/blog/39

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Help / installing a new ethernet card / Gentoo
by Abhijeet 22 Jun '06

22 Jun '06

Hi, I've had gentoo 2005.1 with a 2.6.15-r1 gentoo kernel installed for the past 6 months. Recently, my ethernet card conked off and after lots of testing, I was advised by my 'knowledgeable' cablenet operator to get a new one - so I did. I've got an intex lan card with an Realtek 8139d chipset now and I got a drivers cd along with that. I tried compiling the source for the module which they've provided in that CD but was unsuccessful. I used to have a Pronet card with a Realtek 8139 chipset and that was autodetected during installation. What I was wondering was if there is any other way to go about installing this new ethernet card and also unregister the old one; as during boot it gives an error saying that eth0 is not present or something to that effect. I tried looking up google and forums, but couldn't find much. Thanks in advance. Abhijeet

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[OT] IBM 'frozen' chip runs at 500GHz
by Arun K. Khan 22 Jun '06

22 Jun '06

IBM computer simulations show that their chip could reach speeds of 1,000 GHz http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/06/20/79449_HNibmfrozenchip_1.html -- Arun Khan (knura at yahoo dot com) Any philosophy that can be put in a nutshell belongs there. -- Sydney J. Harris

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Billy baba resigning [OT yawn]
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 22 Jun '06

22 Jun '06

> This argument isn't true at all. What if the child wants to change the > file associations? What if the child wants to draw a simple drawing? > ( Paint brush kicks Kpaints a$$ ). What if the child wants to install a > flash plugin? Firefox has issues installing plugins on my FC5 system. Who knows? The child might just solve all these problems. eg., she might come with a KPaint that kicks Paint's a$$! IMHO it is much better to expose a child to things she can do, than stuff ready-made for her. Regards, Debarshi

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Linux hands on
by Vishal 22 Jun '06

22 Jun '06

Hello , I'm looking out hand's on trainning on Linux to clear my few doubt's . Is there anyone indidival or any trainning institute who can conduct a small session for me on on Linux hand's on . Regards Vishal

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[OT] Erratic service MTNL TriBand
by Arun K. Khan 22 Jun '06

22 Jun '06

Looks like MTNL has joined the band wagon of crappy ISPs of India. For the past 3 days, I have been experiencing erratic net access to the "Internet." I run my own DNS (bind) - an inordinate time for a name lookup is a good indication that queries to the root servers are not going through. Usually, a reboot of the modem has solved the problem. However, today around 15:00 it got to the point that I was not able to ping the MTNL gw 59.183.63.254 assigned to the Triband subnet. Upon further investigation I found that my modem/router was not getting any dynamic IP assignment for about an hour (ATM link layer checked out OK). My connection is off the Khar(W) Exchg. Anybody with TriBand service experiencing the same? -- Arun Khan (knura at yahoo dot com) "I can resist anything but temptation."

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Re: Linux hands on
by Roshan 21 Jun '06

21 Jun '06

> Hello , > > I'm looking out hand's on trainning on Linux to > clear my few doubt's . Is > there anyone indidival or any trainning institute > who can conduct a small > session for me on on Linux hand's on . As stated in one of the earlier emails to the list, you can do it by yourself. You might explore a lot more, but disadvantages like inconsistency (aaj kiya, kal nahi, parson kiya, badme nahi....and so on...) time consumption is more (if you are fairly new) and have no idea of what of Windows to GNU/Linux Alternative (that's how I learnt, but that may not be the best or correct way) What you would probably require is to know which are the best sources for this. Among the billion's, here are a few of them which I would list out 1. the distro's (that you are using) website of documentation / how to's page 2. http://www.tldp.org 3. a few articles from http://desktoplinux.com/ 4. http://www.linuxquestions.org finally, 5. en.wikipedia.org (gr8 for some jargons that you might not know) and yes....for all google-ites, there's always http://www.google.co.in (Google India ;) ) __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Billy baba resigning [OT yawn]
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 21 Jun '06

21 Jun '06

>> seems like you hate him more than you hate sco . > Not at all. Never met him personally and unlikely to in the forseeable > future. so nothing personal about it. >> we must thank him for proliferating computers and software to the >> masses. > Rubbish taiwanse cloners and chip fabs did that. ..snip... >> it is our job to take this vision in a more cleaner way > Are u joking what vision - robbing other's software, writing illegal > contracts, being the big bully, writing software with more holes than > a sieve. And that is not my concotion - it's recorded in various > court judgements across the world. >> ... to >> make computing more affordable and relilable ... to make lif >> e a lot more easir by improving the interfaces to computers an >> making them more useful to common man without putting any efforts >> in learning... > All of which would have been a lot cheaper and easier and reliable had > it not been for the aforementioned Billybaba and his cohorts' > methods. First of all very well-written JTD! Well let me narrate an incident, a real-life incident when I visited Microsoft Campus in Gachibowli, Hyderabad. It was part of our college tour, and was made possible by one of the seniors who is working in M$. I had a nice debate regarding FOSS, M$, ...., which was mainly initiated by the M$ fellas who could not stop asking which one among us though Billy to evil, thought M$ was bad, etc... During the couse of this debate, suddenly when they were pushed to a corner, they came up with the question: Why would you ever use Linux? Why would you ever use anything other than Winblows? Now what about this? Is this how employees of a company, an American company owned by a good American citizen, behave? What about the philosophies of democracy that Mr. Bush and his cronies are trying to push forward? The whole point is that M$ is not as likeable as you think. Think of a world without Winblows and you would get the logic. The whole idea of Windows making computing easy does not hold. Yeah they have definitely made it a idiot-friendly thing. But that is dangerous in the same way that driving would be a dangerous thing if you made licenses optional. The plethora of viruses and worms that we find everywhere would have been lesser if it was not for that Winblows user who so happily clicks on every mail in the mailbox, and every .exe on the floppy. Cheerio, Debarshi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux hands on
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 21 Jun '06

21 Jun '06

> I'm looking out hand's on trainning on Linux to clear my few doubt's . Is > there anyone indidival or any trainning institute who can conduct a small > session for me on on Linux hand's on . What doubts? Could you be more explicit? Cheerio, Debarshi

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Kernel panic in ubuntu
by rohit bhute 20 Jun '06

20 Jun '06

My Ubuntu install threw up a Kernel panic today. The details during start-up were as follows: <snip> [4294671.914000]crc error [4294671.915000]Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0) [4294671.915000] </snip> In the GUI startup , the display would freeze at "Loading hardware drivers..." In safe mode, it dropped me to "root@bhute" -but I had no idea what to check and rectify. Incidently, even Win XP restarted automaically. In safe mode, it restarted at the same point i.e. loading drivers. Running Ubuntu's memtest gave me some 310272 errors. And to make me more confused, the system worked all OK after the memtest. Any hints would be welcome. Incidently, Dapper froze around 10 times on my machine in two weeks. Is my RAM or HDD on the death bed? -- Rohit V. Bhute http://blog.rvbhute.org/

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Installing Fedora Core on other's hard disk?
by Roshan 20 Jun '06

20 Jun '06

Is it ok if I install Fedora Core 5 using my computer on my friend's hard disk drive? Would my friend be able to use the OS once, he plugs it back to his system? My computer configuration is completely different than his --------------------------------- If you don't know something, its always better to learn it and then experiment with components! PLAN THINGS BEFORE EXECUTION! Visit http://www.somaiya.edu You have the ability to change things so that they, not only benefit you but others as well, but you might resist to...think about it! The different distros of GNU/Linux pretty much resemble the different cultures of indians all having the same foundation (the kernel) Use OpenOffice.orgDownload it for windows from http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.0/ "Intentions are written with pencil.Commitments are carved on Stones!" - CLINT A. D'SOUZA __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Re: Kernel panic in ubuntu
by Roshan 20 Jun '06

20 Jun '06

> Sometime on Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 10:04:51AM +0530, > rohit bhute said: > > Running Ubuntu's memtest gave me some 310272 > errors. And to make me > > more confused, the system worked all OK after the > memtest. > > > > Any hints would be welcome. Incidently, Dapper > froze around 10 times > > on my machine in two weeks. Is my RAM or HDD on > the death bed? > > I was also facing same problem, your RAM is the > culprit here. Get a > new one if possible. I have a different story to tell. This was a year ago. I had the same problem, where the system would freeze anytime. Possibly, it your RAM, but, probably, you could try testing your RAM on your friend's computer. Also, observe the amount of time your system works before freezing, for few days. Also, in the BIOS, observe the temperature of CPU and the chassis, before it freezes. My problem had its root in the motherboard. I had tested my RAM, my power supply for faults, and replaced the power supply, after a number of test's at my friend's place. But, it did not solve the problem. Ultimately, I gave my motherboard for repairing and things are normal till now! __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Re: Installing Fedora Core on other's hard disk
by Roshan 20 Jun '06

20 Jun '06

> > On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 08:42:39PM +0000, Dinesh > Joshi wrote: > > > > OP, why can't you install it directly on his PC? He's usually busy during the entire day, and comes back late in the evenings. So, I thought, I would install Fedora for him, initially, but I think, I cannot do that straightaway. I would have to do some modifications in the installation procedure, as stated in the earlier mails to the list. > That reminds me, can the op store the dvd disc as an > ISO 9660 rom in the > hdd and boot the target system from it? I have the 5 CD's of fedora core 5 and I think, the best I can do is give him the CD's or give him the ISO's on his hdd and ask him to install it. __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Software - Red hat 10.0
by Balwinder Arora 20 Jun '06

20 Jun '06

I wanted to know if redhat 10.0 is available freely ... if yes, can any one pass on the link to me.???

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[commerical] workgroup server
by Harsh Busa 20 Jun '06

20 Jun '06

Dear List I need some help setting up a workgroup server which will typically work as 1) file / print server 2) domain authentication 3) local mail server 4) im server 5) firewall / proxy 6) vpn setup etc and a few other things which we can get into specifics offline we need support for upwards of 1 year along with this. only individuals with a definite services and support model contact me off the list . i m not looking this as a one time "do and disappear" activity. thanks and regards Harsh -- __________________________ http://www.ebackend.com/blog

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Billy baba resigning [OT yawn]
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 20 Jun '06

20 Jun '06

> wait right there. Linus Torvalds isn't responsible for Linux fanatics, > is he? So how can you hold Billy boi responsible for Windoze fanatics? He he... Did you go through what was written in the link you had earlier posted. Well here it is http://www.blinkenlights.com/classiccmp/gateswhine.html. Gates (or Billy Boi) does sound a bit fanatic. Steve Ballmer's tirade against FLOSS is well known I thought. And yes it does have racist overtones at times: "How can you trust a programmer in China, instead of a ... like Microsoft?" > Microsoft's _major_ audience includes these "idiots" (no offense meant > to windoze users) and I guess nobody, not even the F/OSS community can > create idiot proof softwares. Micosoft can hardly keep up to these > bigger and better "idiots". Hence the proliferation of worms, viruses, > trojans, malware etc... What is the need for idiot proof software? We can do with some more less-idiotic users though. > Basically *nix users aren't the average computer Joe or Jane. And why is it so, when Unix is older than Winblows? Because of the apparent idiot-proof-ness of Winblows, and the South-East Asian pirates. It is interesting to note M$'s take on piracy. Oh yes thanks to Baishampayan for pointing out, Bill Joy wrote vi. :) Regards, Debarshi

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installing opera in linspire
by bombay news 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

Dear all, I am trying to install Opera in linspire. Downloaded Opera (opera_8.54-20060330.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386) but am unable to install this using apt-get. What commands do I give in the "Run Command" box? sk _________________________________________________________________ Fall in Love... Get married! Join FREE! http://www.shaadi.com/ptnr.php?ptnr=msnhottag

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exchange with ms exchange
by Steven Joseph 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

Hi, is there any way to get mail from m$ exchange to kmail. -- Life would have been a lot more easier if we could look at the source code.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Billy baba resigning [OT yawn]
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

> Debarshi, > The amount of energy you are expending in hating microsoft is so huge that > if you'd have started writing some code instead of that, you'd have a OS > much better than MS and Linux combined !! I was doing something like that when this whole discussion popped up on my mailing list. Nothing bad in taking a break though. ;-) Regards, Debarshi

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Re: Installing Fedora Core on other's hard disk?
by Roshan 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

> It's likely that it won't work out of the box. I'd > recommend setting it > up to boot into run level 3 by default. The major > problem would be with > X configuration, so once it boots into run level 3 > on his computer, > reconfigure X with the right display driver, and > switch back to run > level 5. I have no idea how to do this, but I'll find out some documentation, and may be attempt it. > you may want to trim your signature to be just about > 2-3 lines long. Yes. I would. I have "Use my signature" checked, by default, and when I forget to uncheck it before sending it to the list, the "biggie siggi" appears in the mail. __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Eben Moglen and Cory Doctorow Videos
by Venkatesh Hariharan 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

At the recently held Red Hat Summit in Nashville, Eben Moglen, General Counsel for the Free Software Foundation, and Chairman of Software Freedom Law Center spoke about software patents. Cory Doctorow, noted science fiction writer, spoke about Digital Rights Management and copyrights. Both these speeches were highly appreciated by the audience. The videos of the same are now at: http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/videos/ Highly recommended! Apart from the videos, there is a whole bunch of news, blogs etc. From the Gnu/Linux Users Group perspective, what may be most relevant are the technical presentations archived at: http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/presentations/cos.htm Regards, Venky

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[OT] AIX on Intel.
by Nadeem M. Khan 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

Hi. Is there any way by which I can install IBM AIX on Intel platforms? Maybe a power pc simulator? Google's results were discouraging. I need an AIX test server which I can muck up but dont have a spare pSeries to do so. Regards, NMK.

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[commercial] Hiring GNU/Linux administrators
by TAC Forums 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

Hello, We, www.TheArgonCompany.com , have an opening with the following requirements. Interested candidates can send there resume to jobs(a)theargoncompany.com. Requirements - 6months-1yrs. of experience in GNU/Linux - A basic understanding of DNS, Mail servers, File servers - a fair idea of customer support - Love for GNU/Linux :-) Regards, Boskey Chheda -- TAC Support Team

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e: [ILUG-BOM] Billy baba resigning [OT yawn]
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 19 Jun '06

19 Jun '06

First of all, has anybody on the list seen Revolution OS? It is a small documentary. I think I have a copy so junta can take it from me if required. > Right now they have made a "contribution" of US$30million to Mass. > government to "help" needy students buy M$ malware. Funny they dont > offer it to everybody - only those insisting on Open standards. And > in an attempt to get a future legal handle they are fast racking > their version of XML in two rubber stamp "standards" organisation. During the same visit to M$, they talked about a scheme where low-cost limited edition of their .Net stuff was to be given to colleges for their students' to use. Forgive me for not remembering what 'low-cost limited' exactly meant. But then the employees were very proud of the fact that the Gates Foundation has donated generously for the betterment of AIDS patients and so on. However on being informed that a certain Bram Moolenaar- author of vi, does organize donations for poor children in Uganda the M$ people came up with the "Why at all Linux" thing. Secondly the guys at M$ seem to be extremely satisfied with the fact that most (according to them an overwhelming majority) of the people are using Winblows. That they say is the clinching factor. They are even more pleased to note that most of my class-mates are Windoze lovers, and they are the ones to be tomorrows CEOs. However they do not mind that atleast 60% to 75% of these users use pirated copies. And today's pirates would be tomorrow's CEOs according to them. The thing is proprietary software is a pain in most cases, if not all, and M$ aggressively pursues it. My friends at BARC's Remote Handling and Robotics Division experienced a similar problem RMS had faced at MIT's AI Labs. These fellows at BARC have bought a nice digital compas from Honeywell. The demo program which apparently demonstrates how to operate the thing is a mere EXE and the code is not available. In the absence of it, nobody has got any idea how to program the thing and use it in a robot. BARC I am given to believe is central to India's fundamental R&D and this is how the situation is. The whole impression that people (Winblows users actually) get today is that Windoze is the 'standard' thing, and that GNU/Linux is the real trouble. eg., you can not install Windoze after you put on GNU/Linux, Fedora does not come with MP3 support while Windoze has no problem, etc.. People seem to miss the point that it is Windoze that overwrites the bootloader entries while GNU/Linux appends, that MP3 is patented and M$ pays for it, and so on... Regards, Debarshi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linuxformat in India
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

>> if you notice that the average student outside the Mumbai metropolitan >> region spends more than that on fuel alone. > Fuel?? You're certainly talking about a different class of people > here. I (and most of educated India, AFAIK) don't spend on fuel. > Mostly its on bus and train fare ;-). And why do the buses and trains require you to buy the tickets? Only to pay the drivers? I thought they ran on some fuel too. In my opinion Rs 100-Rs150 for a really good quality magazine is not too much. Googling is ok, but having a hard copy still counts. Not everywhere in India do you get good stable Internet connections, and so using the net is still remains a pain for some. And remember the Internet also costs some amount. Lets not confuse a 'good FOSS magazine' with the ones we already have like Digit, PCQ, etc.. In my opinion they often advertise proprietary software that runs on otherwise Free OSes. Hence they do not serve the purpose. Bye, Debarshi

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Billy baba resigning [OT yawn]
by jtd 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

July 2008 favourite punching bag will resign from M$ as chief software architect. The orginal PR stated that he was resiginig as Chairman. But a clarification from billybaba says that he will remain chairman forever. Hopefully the rest of the garbage will remove itself too and there will be some real architecture in place of spahgetti. -- Rgds JTD

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School days
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

> In my school, one day the boys got together to shout > "bhago bhago" just when the class was about to get over. It became a > very serious matter involving the principal too. He threatened the > entire class with punishment unless the guilty persons owned up. One of > our classmates admitted that he only said "bha", he did not say "go" as > the teacher had turned around by then. This amused everyone and we were > let of with a small punishment. :) Well something similar happened when i was in class X. The library was lit up with lights which were distributed across two phases. Once one of the phases went kaput, and we the perennial back-benchers found ourselves in the darker part of the library. I initiated a 'Andhera Kayam Rahe', inspired from the crook in the Shaktiman series, which soon spread like woildfire. Things took an ugly turn, and I was taken to the principal on admitting that I had done it. Luckily the punishment turned out to be much lesser than was promised initially. Cheers, Debarshi

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permissions on /var/www in Ubuntu
by Rohit V Bhute 18 Jun '06

18 Jun '06

I've messed up the ugo permissions on the /var/www directory which is now giving me a 403 Forbidden error. Details as follows. 1. 'www-data' user and group - created (I assume) when I installed apache2 and used by it. 2. The /var/www directory had 'root' in its owner and group fields. 3. I changed the owner and group of /var/www to 'www-data' and added 'root' and 'rohit' (normal user) to the 'www-data' group and changed the directory permissions to 775. Now, I get a 403 error. The apache2-default folder, which is owned by 'root' is accessible through through the server. Can anybody tell me the right permissions of the www directory so I can add/edit/delete stuff without using sudo?. -- Rohit V. Bhute http://blog.rvbhute.org

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AntiDialer (Broadband Dialer for Sify) v0.1 released
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 17 Jun '06

17 Jun '06

(AntiDialer is a GNU/Linux broadband dialer for Sify broadband users) Hi, I have released AntiDialer v0.1 into the wild today. The main feature of this release is that it is no longer just a GUI dialer. It is now a console based dialer with a GUI plugin. Here are the details: AntiDialer version 0.1 is out today. Get it here: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=157014&package_id=17… This version has been released in three forms: 0) source tarball 1) debian package 2) rpm package (auto-created from the deb package with alien) New Features: ------------------ 0. Complete rewrite of the core to remove all dependence on QT libraries. QT dependency is only for the UI plugin now. 1. Console based interface for the shell junkies 2. Plugin interface to allow new feature implementation in the form of separate plugin libraries 3. A GUI plugin based on QT 4. Ability to provide username/password at console. You may write the command with username and password into an rc.d file and it will autoconnect on startup. Features removed: -------------------------- 0. Heartbeat: This feature is useless unless you want a tray icon alive all the time. A tray icon can be implemented as a plugin. The old heartbeat code is still there in the tarball if anyone's interested. Regards, Siddhesh -- http://siddhesh.tk

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Re: MTNL Mumbai Newsletter
by Roshan 17 Jun '06

17 Jun '06

JTD wrote: > MTNL says IE is vulnerable and > "It is suggested to install another browser apart > from IE as a standby > alternative. > Following are some of the other standard browsers > available on > internet and their locations from where they can be > downloaded. > Netscape ver 8.1 > http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/ > FireFox ver 1.5.0.4 > http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ > Opera ver 8.5 http://www.opera.com/ > Avant ver 10.2 http://www.avantbrowser.com/" This is good news. There are people at MTNL who understand, there are few holes in IE and are asking their customers to look out for options. I vote for MOZILLA FIREFOX! > So people are peering outa the window. > Times Insta poll says that 80% of respondents want > Indian government > to implement opensource technologies. I think, there's already an instance of the same. The national portal of India (http://www.india.gov.in). Pages are developed using PHP and hosted on Apache, Redhat Linux > Billybaba resigning and his sharp practices. Would that make a big difference to organizations who purchase Microsoft Products? __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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MTNL Mumbai Newsletter
by jtd 17 Jun '06

17 Jun '06

MTNL says IE is vulnerable and "It is suggested to install another browser apart from IE as a standby alternative. Following are some of the other standard browsers available on internet and their locations from where they can be downloaded. Netscape ver 8.1 http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/ FireFox ver 1.5.0.4 http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ Opera ver 8.5 http://www.opera.com/ Avant ver 10.2 http://www.avantbrowser.com/" So people are peering outa the window. Times Insta poll says that 80% of respondents want Indian government to implement opensource technologies. along with an article about Billybaba resigning and his sharp practices. Mainstream press is noticing things. -- Rgds JTD

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New linux Library
by x x 17 Jun '06

17 Jun '06

I propose to start a library of linux books soon. I am looking forward to some suggestions on startup collection on this thread. For availing books contact me offlist at 9969302344. _________________________________________________________________ Fall in Love... Get married! Join FREE! http://www.shaadi.com/ptnr.php?ptnr=msnhottag

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google earth
by Harsh Busa 17 Jun '06

17 Jun '06

Google has started supporting their apps on linux first was picasa and now its ggl earth http://dl.google.com/earth/GE4/GoogleEarthLinux.bin -- __________________________ http://www.ebackend.com/blog

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Are there any online trading software ...
by Steven Joseph 17 Jun '06

17 Jun '06

Hi, Are there any online trading software availiable in linux. Are there any firms that offer online trading applications for linux... similar to 1 paisa .coms desktop trading software Steven -- Life would have been a lot more easier if we could look at the source code.

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CUI (text-based) OS?
by Roshan 16 Jun '06

16 Jun '06

LO, If given a choice, would anybody like to come back to a CUI based Operating System...those good old days of UNIX / the 1990's (early) Linux OS? (or GNU/Linux, if it had been associated) This very thought has its roots in the short story below! Long time back in my first year (BSc I. T.), I had developed a small utility for DOS in C(we did not have GNU/Linux anywhere around in first year!) which was a "one letter DOS"(kindof emulator for DOS). Any user who would run it, would just have to type a single letter to execute / display something. For example, if one wants to clear the screen, he has to just type the letter 'b' (b for blank). 'h' for help! --------------------------------- If you don't know something, its always better to learn it and then experiment with components! PLAN THINGS BEFORE EXECUTION! Visit http://www.somaiya.edu You have the ability to change things so that they, not only benefit you but others as well, but you might resist to...think about it! The different distros of GNU/Linux pretty much resemble the different cultures of indians all having the same foundation (the kernel) Use OpenOffice.orgDownload it for windows from http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.0/ "Intentions are written with pencil.Commitments are carved on Stones!" - CLINT A. D'SOUZA Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com Stay connected with your friends even when away from PC. Link: http://in.mobile.yahoo.com/new/messenger/

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Linux compatible PCI IDE adapter
by Faraz Shahbazker 16 Jun '06

16 Jun '06

I am looking to setup software RAID-1 on my home computer and need an extra IDE interface. Any ideas on tried-and-tested PCI-IDE adapters/chipsets for GNU/Linux which are locally available(read Lamington Road). I am also considering the alternative of buying a SATA hdd, in which case I would need to know of Linux compatible PCI-SATA controllers/chipsets. Once again the operative conditions would be locally available and somewhat cheap(<= 1k). Thanks, farazs

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GNU/Linux books...
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 16 Jun '06

16 Jun '06

Some books available with Shroff Publishers at Mumbai spdorders(a)shroffpublishers.com O'REILLY * Linux in a Nutshell Rs 500 * MySQL in a Nutshell Rs 325 * Open Source for the Enterprise Rs 250 * Perl best practices Rs 450 * Perl Testing: Developer's Nbk Rs 225 * Test driving Linux Rs 350 CHARLES RIVER MEDIA * Linux TCP/IP Stack Rs 450 NO STARCH PRESS * Linux Cookbook Rs 600 * Linux for Non-Geeks Rs 300 * The official GNOME 2 Developer's Guide Rs 475 * Wi-Fi Rs 250 * Write Great Code Rs 400 For FLOSS (Free/Libre and Open Source Software0 news from across Asia, please visit http://feeds.goa-india.org

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[commercial] - JOBS StartUp Company Based on Linux Platform
by shamshu shaikh 15 Jun '06

15 Jun '06

Hi friends, Mine is a StartUp company based on Linux Platform in Bombay, i would like to have linux techies ( even freshers with attitude to deliver the best) to be on board with me to achieve their as well as company goals in the best and fastest possible way. People interested to join me can feel free to contact me at shamshu.s(a)gmail.com.Please send in your CV with contact details. The areas of work should be qmail,sendmail,apache,mysql,ldap,iptables,RPM's. Regards shamshu Regards shamshu shamshu_s(a)rediffmail.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] CUI (text-based) OS?
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Infra, Energy) 15 Jun '06

15 Jun '06

>"one letter DOS"(kindof emulator for DOS). Any user >who would run it, would just have to type a single >letter to execute / display something. For example, if >one wants to clear the screen, he has to just type the >letter 'b' (b for blank). 'h' for help! Life would be a lot simpler if users did just 26 things.. Seriously, we need both that's why all OS have a "command line" -- Gishu

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possibly a bug in ubuntu
by Mohan Nayaka 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

Hi all I wanted to check before filing a bug report for ubuntu. Intermittently, i.e. about twice in five sessions, the whole UI boats up by about 1.5 to 2 times. This has become more frequent in 6.06 . This is a serious usability issue, as important configuration dialogs such users-admin are clipped at the bottom. This is observed in both gnome & kde. This has been an issue since the time of 5.04 However if this were a wide-spread issue, it would have probably been fixed by now. Hence, i am hesitating to raise a bug for the same. Please advise. Regards, Mohan S N -- There will be plenty of time to rest in the grave. - Paul Erdos

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Linuxformat in India
by Hemant Charya 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

Hi, I am Hemant Charya. I work for a major publishing house in Mumbai, India. We intend to make Linuxformat (http://linuxformat.co.uk/) magazine availabe in India, at Indian prices. Linuxformat magazine is very popular in UK . It is accompanied by a DVD (July '06 DVD contains: Polished Mandriva spin-off PCLinuxOS, and rock-solid enterprise-ready CentOS, KOffice 1.5, Oracle 10g XE, games and more As a publisher we want to learn from the Indian Linux community and potential readers: 1. Whether the Linux users in India like to read an international magazine dedicated to Linux? 2. Would they be interested in subscribing to such a magazine. 3. What would be the most the most attractive cover-price in Indian Rupees? (The internatonal edition of Linuxformat is available in select bookstores of Mumbai. A single issue costs an exorbitant 600+ Rupees). Your feedback is extremely valuable for us. Only you can help us bring an awesome monthly read purely about Linux and at affordable Indian prices. The highlights of the July '06 issue of LinuxFormat are below. * Top kernel maintainer Greg Kroah-Hartman explains why binary drivers are evil * Lessons in Linux - In-depth feature on Linux growth in schools and universities * Reviews - Ubuntu 6.06, Oracle 10g Express Edition, Second Life, GnuCash 2.0, Ogre 3D 1.2, books, blog engines... More can be found at http://linuxformat.co.uk/ . Regards, Hemant Charya Mumbai

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Copy cat M$
by Puneet Lakhina 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

This a link to a review of vista beta with a humongous amount of screenshots. http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/31/windows_vista/ I am posting this link here coz i was shocked to find the extent of just simple plain copying of features that has been done in internet exploere 7. It borrows tabbed browsing, rss feed reader, explicit mgmt of add ons.. list is endless. Is this right?? Are they required to acknowledge it?? under some license clause of firefox. Coz they will now make glitzy videos demonstarting something thats been there for ages in mozilla and firefox. -- Puneet

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Online petition to make HDFC Mozilla friendly
by bombay news 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

Dear Linuxers, I have created an online petition with an aim to persuade HDFC bank and its associate www.hdfcsec.com to become more receptable to open source software. At present HDFC's tradiing site- www.hdfcsec.com can only be accessed by Internet Explorer with no support at all extended to Mozilla Firefox or Opera. This forces a lot of open source enthusiasts to keep IE on their PCs or hit cybercafes to access their online trading accounts. Hopefully this petition with some help from the open source community will result in HDFC becoming more responsive to the needs of the growing open source community in the country. Please sign the petition on: http://www.petitiononline.com/freehdfc/petition.html Also forward this message to other open source enthusiasts so that enough pressure can be built up on HDFC Bank and its associates. Regards Shiv Kumar _________________________________________________________________ How good are you in a Formula One car? Play now http://server1.msn.co.in/sp05/tataracing/onlinegame.asp

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Moderation ?
by Saswata Banerjee & Associates 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

Hi guys, I posted a job offer from one of my clients, I put the [commercial] tag. But I got a message from the list saying : Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.The reason it is being held: Message has implicit destination Can someone tell me what this means ? I couldnt figure it out. Regards Saswata

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Triband problems
by bombaynews 14 Jun '06

14 Jun '06

Just installed Linspire on a partition. I am unable to stay connected using MTNL's Triband for long though i have no such problems when using an old GNOME live CD. I am therefore forced to switch back to Windows XP to get online. Shiv Kumar

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Checking MTNL broadband usage using ifconfig or logs
by Aparna Appaiah 13 Jun '06

13 Jun '06

Dear List, I am using the MTNL Triband broadband service with Debian Sarge. I connect to the modem using DHCP, and get on and off by using /etc/init.d/networking (start|stop) Now, I am looking for an unobtrusive way of measuring how many bytes I use up every session, especially as I find the MTNL account check very unreliable. I heard that the TX bytes and RX bytes are the correct indicators in the output of /sbin/ifconfig eth0. I wanted to know whether noting these down is a measure of how much I have used in that session. Also, I wanted to know whether these details are logged elsewhere on my PC, in some file, so that I can extract the details from that file. (It can be assumed that I connect to the internet only from Sarge). Thank you. Aparna

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Adrenaline rush ...
by Steven Joseph 13 Jun '06

13 Jun '06

Hi I use suse super and i experimented a bit and found out that using a flashdisk for a swap partition significantly improves performance. +set /cat/proc/sys/vm/swappiness a high value like 80 a must try . Steven -- Life would have been a lot more easier if we could look at the source code.

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Kernel Panic: Fatal Exception.
by Nadeem M. Khan 13 Jun '06

13 Jun '06

Hi. I got a Kernel Panic: Fatal Exception error when my RHEL3 system was up and running. After this, the system crashed. Rebooting it solved the problem. The strange part here is that I got the error when the system was up and running and not during boot which is normally the case. Strangely, the messages file does not have any entry about the error. Is there any way by which I can determine the cause of the problem and hence avoid it in the future? Regards, NMK.

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very intresting distro ...
by Steven Joseph 13 Jun '06

13 Jun '06

hi, Any one's tried out SLAX itsa really neat distro. Boots from cd usb ... only 2[0-9][0-9] MB comes in different flavours ... downloadable install packages (modules)... modular KDE and a selection of the best oss out there If u dont have an fast internet connection then this is what u are looking for. http://www.slax.org/ Steven -- Life would have been a lot more easier if we could look at the source code.

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[Commercial] SysAdmin Job
by Saswata Banerjee & Associates 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

FOUB interactive, the company that developed and operates the portal http://www.bombayharbour.com is looking for a system administrator. The company operates fully on Linux Platform and uses primarily open source tools for its work. Any interested candidate my contact Mr. Harjit Singh Ubhi on Harjit <harjit(a)gsimail.com> or call him on 9821384562. (Please do not send resumes to the group ID or to me.) They are looking for persons of 2-3 years experiance. Knowledge of php based development will be an added advantage. Regards Saswata

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Motorola SM56 modem in linux
by Samir 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

Hi List, I m using RHES 4 n want to use my motorola sm56 pci data/voice/fax modem in linux also. can u plz tell me how do i configure it n frm where do i get the drivers for the modem to get it installed on linux. -- Friends are like an treasure,so if you want to become rich in your life make as many friends as possible in the life. Samir.A.Sanghvi [B.E. in EXTC] 9820812842

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Grub issue
by V.K.Bharadwaj 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

From: "Puneet Lakhina" <puneet.lakhina(a)gmail.com> To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 00:52:10 +0530 Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Grub issue I have two hard disks. THe hard disk which is connected as slave has grub on <snip> But when i try and boot into the xp installation of the master disk, it boots into the xp installation of slave only. The entry for the master xp installation in menu.lst is as follows root (hd1,0) makeactive savedefaults chainloader +1 I have added this entry myself. COuld anyone suggest what the problem could be?? -- Puneet I believe the primary harddisk in your situation will be referred to as "hd0" (and not "hd1"), irrespective of your BIOS boot device settings. --- VKB

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internal modem drivers for 2.6 kernel , anyone ??
by sharan rao 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

I have a (Dlink) DFM - 560IS +++ internal modem. I wanted a driver for Linux kernel 2.6 for it. When i bought the modem, a year back,i got a driver for the 2.4 kernel with the modem. So i am forced to use the older version of the kernel to connect to the internet using the entire bandwidth. Has anyone bought a Dlink internal Modem (connexant chipset) recently,... ? Maybe you have the driver for the 2.6 kernel. linuxant.com does provide drivers for 2.6 but one can connect only at speeds of 14.4Kbps using it. The full version is something around 20$ .. I called up Dlink (knowing i won't get anywhere) today.The guy at the call center after making me wait for atleast 10-15 minutes, gave me the linuxant url... :-) with a disclaimer that it wasn't supported by Dlink..!! He kept saying that Dlink doesn't support Linux et all.I asked him why Dlink didn't tell the modem vendor to explain that to me when i was buying the modem. I expected a reply like "Microsoft Windows is more popular ... blah blah" but what i got was this -- "You need OpenSource drivers for Linux and 'it' keeps changing, so it is difficult to support Linux ".. I tried to reason out with him politely, but he kept giving me the same answer like a tape recorder..!! (and yes... he didn't know that Dlink provides drivers for Linux with the product...!! ;-) ) sharan rao.

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Re: Linuxformat in India
by Roshan 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

> > As a publisher we want to learn from the Indian > Linux community and > > potential readers: > > 1. Whether the Linux users in India like to read > an international > > magazine dedicated to Linux? > > 2. Would they be interested in subscribing to such > a magazine. > > 3. What would be the most the most attractive > cover-price in Indian > > Rupees? (The internatonal edition of Linuxformat > is available in > > select bookstores of Mumbai. A single issue costs > an exorbitant 600+ > > Rupees). 1. Considering the amount of penetration of Microsoft's Windows Operating System, in Mumbai, only a handful of Linux users would be interested a magazine dedicated to Linux (GNU/Linux). 2. Desktop Users who use Linux (GNU/Linux), but do not have access to the internet at home, would be interested in subscribing to the magazine. But as mentioned in the first point, the share of Linux (GNU/Linux) as operating system is fairly less. 3. On the stands, between Rs. 80 - 130 and/or attractive subscription schemes for 1 year / 3 years / 5 years with savings for the subscriber along with contests / great prizes should be considered for pricing issues. > 1. Yes I would very much like to read such a > magazine not because its an > international magazine but because hopefully the > quality of this is > better than most magazines that we see currently in > India. > > 2. Yes. > > 3. I guess Rs.100-150/- should be reasonable. You > should print several > editions for different pricing and different > goodies. > > > Your feedback is extremely valuable for us. Only > you can help us > > bring an awesome monthly read purely about Linux > and at affordable > > Indian prices. Possibly, there should be some pre-marketing for using GNU/Linux (in the magazine), (collaborating a few issues of the magazine with Digit / PCQuest etc. ) so that people become aware of what they can do at less cost. People should understand, that there are operating systems that can be purchased for low prices / downloaded free from the internet and used. (A computer can run operating systems other than windows!) Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com Stay connected with your friends even when away from PC. Link: http://in.mobile.yahoo.com/new/messenger/

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Connect LG-LSP350T to internet
by िऩऩाद 12 Jun '06

12 Jun '06

Hi I have taken a FWP of Tata Indicom(LG-LSP350T). I got a usb data cable and am trying to connect to the internet but to no avail. Sometime back I had read in these forums how to connect the 350R phone of Reliance. It was also mentioned that FC4 automatically detected the modem. I have installed FC4. How do i find out whether the modem is detected and how do i connect to the internet िऩऩाद बापट

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Checking MTNL broadband usage using ifconfig or logs
by Amish Mehta 11 Jun '06

11 Jun '06

Aparna Appaiah wrote: > Dear List, > > I am using the MTNL Triband broadband service with Debian Sarge. I > connect to the modem using DHCP, and get on and off by using > > /etc/init.d/networking (start|stop) Try bridged mode(instead of DHCP) to get a PPP session. > Now, I am looking for an unobtrusive way of measuring how many bytes I > use up every session, Everytime PPP session ends, the ip-down script is called with environment variables BYTES_SENT and BYTES_RCVD set as per that session. Simply 'cat' that to a log file with timestamp. For more details: man pppd, adsl-setup Amish

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Online petition to make HDFC Mozilla friendly
by bimal pandit 10 Jun '06

10 Jun '06

On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 bombaynews wrote : >I sent a link to the online petition to the HDFC guys and got this wishy-washy response in return. Maybe the webmaster at hdfcsec.com (webmaster(a)hdfcsec.com) needs to be educated on open source software... > >shiv kumar > > > >Dear Sir, > >This is with reference to your below mentioned mail. > >Please note that functioning of our Website, HDFC SECURITIES LTD depends >upon your Browser, which in turn depends upon your Internet Service >Provider. > >Kindly note that our new site is compatible only to Internet explorer 6.0 >with Cipher Strength : 128-bit and it is very important to set your screen >resolution to 1024 X 768 for viewing the demo and also when logging in to >the new trading site. > >Further we have made a note of your suggestions mentioned below, and the >same will be forwarded to the concerned desk who will look in to the same. > >Please continue to write to us your valuable suggestions and inputs, which >will help us serve you better. > >Hope the above information suffices, kindly revert to us should you need >further assistance. > >Thanking and assuring you of our best services always. > >With Regards, >Yamini Potti. >Customer Care Desk >HDFC Securities Ltd. >Contact : 28346600 (Mumbai) > 1800-22-9700 (Toll Free) >Email : customercare(a)hdfcsec.com > > > > > > >>Please sign the petition on: >> >>http://www.petitiononline.com/freehdfc/petition.html >> >>Also forward this message to other open source enthusiasts so that enough pressure can be built up on HDFC Bank and its associates. >> >>Regards >>Shiv Kumar >> > ha... ha... ha... I remember a quite "Har Shaakh pe ULLU baithen hain, anjamain gulistaa kya hoga!!!" ha... ha... ha... by the way the person is looking for "in case you need further assistance" so whats up??? ha... ha... ha... Bimal Pandit

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Re:Which (Fedora, Redhat) based distro; best?
by अिनकॆत (Aniket) 09 Jun '06

09 Jun '06

> If the subject line confuses, or indicates, best of > distros, the body of the email isn't. > > What I am interested to know, is which distro among > Fedora Core would be best for the hardware > configuration I have > > I plan to buy a new HDD and interested to know, which > Redhat / Fedora Distro would be best > > Microprocessor: Pentium IV 1.7 GHz > RAM: 256 MB DDR > Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse > SAMTRON 15" Monitor > SONY CD-RW CRX23EE 52x / 32x / 52x > Realtek Ethernet Card > > (here comes the odd part) > ASUS Motherboard P4S333VM > SiS 7012 Soundcard > SiS 650 onboard Graphics card > > Though the sound card was detected in Redhat 9.0 (the > one I am using currently), none of the sound modules > (arts, ALSA) worked properly. > > I am not interested in Debain Distros because, I have > absolutely no idea of a lot of things. Once, I have > some introduction (through different sources on the > internet), I'll dual boot... > > But, can I dual boot among different distro's > Something like Debian, Ubuntu, OpenSuSE 10.2? > > Also, if anyone has used GAIM on MTNL TRIBAND, please > let me know. > > I also plan to buy a new keyboard. Any suggestions for > a new keyboard ? (Simple ...no MM) > I would suggest you should definitely go for Fedora 5 . Its just the best of all the Fedoras (atleast I have experienced so). Hardware detection is just great unless you have any exotic hardware...and you dont seem to have any. I never had a sound problem with Fedora. And in RH9 the sound problem is very common , many of my friends' and even my college comp went without sound in RH9...and SUSE10.0 too. Networking with ADSL/PPPOE is a breeze in fedora . Triband will work just fine...and gaim too. Also my MM Keyboard works fine in Fedora with the iTouch plugin for XMMS. I couls not get MM keys to work in Ubuntu Dapper at all. -- The Future is Open...The Future is LINUX

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ubuntu
by bombaynews 09 Jun '06

09 Jun '06

has anyone on this list test driven the new ubuntu 6.06 LTS (DAPPER DRAKE)? shiv kumar

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Which (Fedora, Redhat) based distro; best?
by Roshan 09 Jun '06

09 Jun '06

LO, If the subject line confuses, or indicates, best of distros, the body of the email isn't. What I am interested to know, is which distro among Fedora Core would be best for the hardware configuration I have I plan to buy a new HDD and interested to know, which Redhat / Fedora Distro would be best Microprocessor: Pentium IV 1.7 GHz RAM: 256 MB DDR Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse SAMTRON 15" Monitor SONY CD-RW CRX23EE 52x / 32x / 52x Realtek Ethernet Card (here comes the odd part) ASUS Motherboard P4S333VM SiS 7012 Soundcard SiS 650 onboard Graphics card Though the sound card was detected in Redhat 9.0 (the one I am using currently), none of the sound modules (arts, ALSA) worked properly. I am not interested in Debain Distros because, I have absolutely no idea of a lot of things. Once, I have some introduction (through different sources on the internet), I'll dual boot... But, can I dual boot among different distro's Something like Debian, Ubuntu, OpenSuSE 10.2? Also, if anyone has used GAIM on MTNL TRIBAND, please let me know. I also plan to buy a new keyboard. Any suggestions for a new keyboard ? (Simple ...no MM) Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com Stay connected with your friends even when away from PC. Link: http://in.mobile.yahoo.com/new/messenger/

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Re: tar question ...
by Amish Mehta 08 Jun '06

08 Jun '06

Arun K. Khan wrote: > >On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 21:11 +0530, Amish Mehta wrote: >> Arun K. Khan wrote: >> ># tar -cvjf /data2/sys-backup.tar.bz2 / --exclude-from=/exclude-file >> > >> >/exclude_file is a text file with (directories space separated on one line): >> >/home /data1 /data2 >> >> Specify each on separate line (not separated by space). > >Does it work for you (version of tar)? My verions of tar (GNU tar) 1.13.25 --- packaged with RH9 Command I run is tar czvp -X bkpexclude base libs demo website > bkp.`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`.tgz base, libs, demo, website are directories to backup bkpexclude contains base/bin demo/bin website/notimp Amish.

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[OT] Harddisk required for Linux server...
by Dinesh Joshi 08 Jun '06

08 Jun '06

Hi list, I need a harddisk to setup a new server. I am not looking for a big one. Anything from a 10GB to 40GB will do. Preferrably 20GB. If someone has a seagate which is _less_ that 3 years old and has no bad sectors then please contact me off list. I am willing to pay Rs.800-1000/- at the most. Thanks. -- Dinesh A. Joshi

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[OT] Any reliance powersurfer downtime?
by Dinesh Joshi 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

Hi list, Are there any powersurfer (power sufferers :P ) customers here? Their andheri network has been down for the past 7 days i.e. from 31st May. The reason they are citing is that their switches got damaged in the rains. AFAIK this hasn't happened in the past. This down time is killing... Any good alternative ISP in andheri area who you guys would suggest? I am willing to pay upto 600 bucks a month for a 64Kbps (8kBps) connection and 800 bucks for a 128Kbps (16kBps). All I want is a public IP (doesnt matter whether its static or dynamic), no port blocks, consistent uptimes, stable speeds and ofcourse should be compatible with Linux. Airtel is available in our area but not in my particular building... Help! -- Regards, Dinesh A. Joshi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ubuntu
by अिनकॆत (Aniket) 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

> I recently dist-upgraded to Ubuntu Dapper Drake. Its awesome i must > say. I downloaded the Live+Install Cd and it refused to recognise the partitions on my first hard-disk . So people on the Ubuntu Forums suggested me to use the alternate CD. I downloaded that and got the same results. I am at my wits end tring to figure out the problem . Here is my Fdisk output from Fedora 5 ..I want to use /dev/hda2 to install Ubuntu. Also the current GRUB is installed in MBR of hda . Fedora and XP workin fine. [root@aniket aniket]# /sbin/fdisk -l omitting empty partition (5) Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 638 5124703+ b W95 FAT32 /dev/hda2 639 1275 5116702+ 83 Linux /dev/hda3 1276 4865 28836675 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda4 1914 3591 13478503+ b W95 FAT32 /dev/hda5 1276 1318 345334+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/hda6 1319 1913 4779306 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/hda7 3592 4865 10233373+ b W95 FAT32 Disk /dev/hdb: 80.0 GB, 80060424192 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdb1 * 1 1305 10482381 83 Linux /dev/hdb2 1306 9733 67697910 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hdb5 1306 3916 20972826 b W95 FAT32 /dev/hdb6 3917 6527 20972826 b W95 FAT32 /dev/hdb7 6528 9688 25390701 b W95 FAT32 /dev/hdb8 9689 9733 361431 82 Linux swap / Solaris Also i want to know how to configure pppoe in Ubuntu. What I did in the Live Cd was , "sudo pppoeconf" . Then I followed the wizard. But it never asked me the service/access concentrator name . I need to enter those as there are multiple pppoe services on my LAN. Please help me as I really want to use Ubuntu.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ubuntu
by अिनकॆत (Aniket) 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

> > /dev/hda2 should be the Extended partition. For your first HDD, its not > the case. I think the partitions are numbered in the sequence any > detected Primary, detected Extended, then the ones inside Extended. hdx1 > to hdx4 are kept for the four main (for a lack of better term) > partitions (i.e. upto a max of 4 primary or 3 primary and one extended). > hdx5 onwards are given to the ones encountered inside the Extended > partitions. > > Thats what I've seen on my installs. If your FC is working (as it > obviously is), then maybe my reasoning is off-target. Well I found out the error ...... If you can see the entry for my extended partition , it says cylinder 1276 to cylinder 4865 . so , a partition from 1914 to 3591 (ie hda4 shown above) should be a logical partition inside this extended partition. But the partition hda4 above , from 1914 to 3591 is listed as a primary partition . So cylinders 1914 to 3591 were being counted twice causing the windoze partition manager to report my 40GB HDD as 59GB hdd. , and Gparted to not detect any partitions at all. Screw M$ and Winblows. Also I dunno how FC5 was working just great even with that error. I have to keep a copy of XP so that my local internet provider can debug it when the connection goes down, he cant use Linux at all, else I would have junked it for good. > > > Also i want to know how to configure pppoe in Ubuntu. What I did in > > Break into its config file somewhere in /etc/ppp. I forgot to check it > when hopping back from Linux. You will have to do a pppoe <some option> > to get your access concentrators listed, I believe. > I found out from the man pages that the kernel mode pppoe installed in Ubuntu cannot handle multiple access concentrators. Its designed to be used with Triband etc ie.DSL modems. If you have only one service on your LAN its ok, else you have to use rp-pppoe package from roaringpenguin website. It also has a GUI config utility to enter service name. Posting from Ubuntu Dapper now, its great but I just say not easy to configure repos in synaptic as Fedora/Yum . The utility itself is great but the default repo config did not work for me and had to be edited manually as it had some in.ubuntu... mirrors listed which gave 404 errors. -- The Future is Open...The Future is LINUX

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FYI - SuSE 10.1 DVD w/ LFY Jun/06
by Arun K. Khan 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

Without prejudice and FWIW, LFY Jun/06 includes the SuSE 10.1 DVD (32 bit). Have not installed it but the _all_ the RPMs check out OK. -- Arun Khan (knura at yahoo dot com) She liked him; he was a man of many qualities, even if most of them were bad.

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Re: tar question ...
by Amish Mehta 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

Arun K. Khan wrote: ># tar -cvjf /data2/sys-backup.tar.bz2 / --exclude-from=/exclude-file > >/exclude_file is a text file with (directories space separated on one line): >/home /data1 /data2 Specify each on separate line (not separated by space). Amish.

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Re: Viamatic foXpose
by Roshan 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

> It is already there in Firefox. It is an add-on by > the name of > Viamatic foXpose by Vivek Jishtu. Here is the link: > https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1457/ I have installed this plugin. The only difference I see from the screenshot of Vista, is the so called "3-D" effect of tabs ! But, no problem, it serves the purpose of thumbnails of tabs! That's enough for me Thanks for the link! --------------------------------- If you don't know something, its always better to learn it and then experiment with components! PLAN THINGS BEFORE EXECUTION! Visit http://www.somaiya.edu You have the ability to change things so that they, not only benefit you but others as well, but you might resist to...think about it! The different distros of GNU/Linux pretty much resemble the different cultures of indians all having the same foundation (the kernel) Use OpenOffice.orgDownload it for windows from http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.0/ "Intentions are written with pencil.Commitments are carved on Stones!" - CLINT A. D'SOUZA Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com

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FC4 CDs needed : south mumbai
by Abhishek Daga 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

Hi, Does anyone have FC4 CDs in south mumbai? I would like to borrow them, so if available please contact me off list and I can pick them up and make a copy and return them to you. thanks abhi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[OT] TriBand DSL/POTS question
by Arun K. Khan 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

I have a MTNL land line and TriBand DSL on the same copper pair. Since 14.00 hours today no dialtone on the telephone thus cannot make any outgoing calls but DSL is working. On the flip side call my land line number from my mobile and I get audible indicating that the exchange does not think there is any problem with my line. This happened to my line last year during the 26/July downpour but auto corrected a few days later but voice quality was poor. Complained to MTNL and they replaced the splitter subsequently restoring acceptable voice quality. So ... to eliminate the possibility of a damaged splitter, I disconnected everything and hooked up the phone instrument directly to the pair coming in from MTNL - no dial tone. Anybody experienced this before? Any suggestion what/where the problem could be? In the mean while will lodge a complaint with MTNL as well. TIA, -- Arun Khan (knura at yahoo dot com) Never call a man a fool. Borrow from him.

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Red Hat developer program & test suite
by Venkatesh Hariharan 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

Recently, Red Hat launched a developer program called 108 for * Enterprise developers building solutions around open source technology * Systems integrators combining open source and proprietary software * Developers looking to discuss, learn, and collaborate Users can sign up for this program at https://www.108.redhat.com/ Another announcement that application developers may like is the release of dogtail, a GUI test tool and automation framework written in Python, under the GPL license. More info on this is available at http://people.redhat.com/zcerza/dogtail/ Regards, Venky

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sgid permission
by samir sanghvi 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

Hi, Can u explain me the concept of SGID special permisssion. Actually I m not getting the application of this special permission.

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 38, Issue 5
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 05 Jun '06

05 Jun '06

> Ok as far as something to learn from it.. well they have something called a > preview feature whereby all open windows are like displayed as thumbnails.. > like tiles.. which i think could be a really good.. It is already there in Firefox. It is an add-on by the name of Viamatic foXpose by Vivek Jishtu. Here is the link: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1457/ Cheers, Debarshi

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tar question ...
by Arun K. Khan 03 Jun '06

03 Jun '06

/dev/sda1 is mounted on / /dev/sda2 is mounted on /home /dev/hda1 is mounted on /data1 /dev/hda2 is mounted on /data2 OS - SuSE 10.0 x86_64 # tar -cvjf /data2/sys-backup.tar.bz2 / --exclude-from=/exclude-file /exclude_file is a text file with (directories space separated on one line): /home /data1 /data2 The tar man page describes --exclude-from=FILE should skip the entries in FILE. However, in my case tar merrily backed up /home, /data1, and /data2 i.e. ignored --exclude-from option. what the ????? There is no example of the entry format of FILE. -- Arun Khan (knura at yahoo dot com) Finagle's fourth Law: Once a job is fouled up, anything done to improve it only makes it worse.

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Unionfs on Kernel 2.6.15
by Sameer Bagwe 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

Hello all, I'm not able to successfully compile unionfs with the above kernel version. Any pointers plz. Or if any1 has the compiled unionfs.ko for the this kernel so that I can insert this module. I'm working on a custom restricted live CD based on Fedora core 5 for the kiosk machines in our company.. Many thanks.

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How to Create a Makefile which supports on Xwindow
by punit chaturvedi 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

Hi, I would like to know how can i change my makefile so that i can run it on X Window Environment. My makefile is perfectly working in Shell, but i need to either compile it into xwindow environment or is there any way i can change my makefile so that it can be run in xwindow environment. Appreciate if you guys can help me out. With Regards, Punit --------------------------------- Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.

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Debian Linux Ver 3.1 CD
by deshpande＠vsnl.com 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

Hi Does anyone have latest debian CD I will highly appereciate if somebody can guide me Thanks in advance MAHESH DESHPANDE Trainer for Linux Installations, Linux for End Users.

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Grub issue
by Puneet Lakhina 31 May '06

31 May '06

I have two hard disks. THe hard disk which is connected as slave has grub on its mbr. and has a windows xp installation, running along with ubuntu 5.10. The other disk(connected as master) has only a windows xp installation. I want to be able to boot into either of these 3 os installations (ubuntu and xp on slave and xp on master) from the grub. So i made the slave hard disk as my 1st boot device. Now i can boot into xp and ubuntu of the slave deive easily. But when i try and boot into the xp installation of the master disk, it boots into the xp installation of slave only. The entry for the master xp installation in menu.lst is as follows root (hd1,0) makeactive savedefaults chainloader +1 I have added this entry myself. COuld anyone suggest what the problem could be?? -- Puneet

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opensource projects for training trainees ...
by Steven Joseph 31 May '06

31 May '06

why cant companies give development hands on practice by making trainees work on some opensource project. That way the trainees can get to see some real community approved style of coding. That will improve their coding skills and technique also. Its like the trainees having the whole opensource community as mentors.. till they are ready to work on internal projects that is. After which it depends on the company policy whatever. Steven -- Life would have been a lot more easier if we could look at the source code.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Driver development kit
by hemendra jain 30 May '06

30 May '06

>"Have you ever felt teased when driver developers of other operating >systems teased you about a lack of a "proper" driver development kit >for Linux? Have you felt left out of the crowd when looking at the 36 >cdrom package of documentation and example source code that other >operating systems provide for their developers? Well feel ashamed no >longer!" > >http://www.kroah.com/log/2006/05/24/#ddk I have inclination towards driver development and also develop the same. We can have a session of 'development of DD using an e.g'. Rgds, Hemendra

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[OT] Thank God! if it werent for Linux...
by Dinesh Joshi 30 May '06

30 May '06

We all would be using this... http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/flexgo/payasyougo.mspx It's now official. Microsoft has gone I.N.S.A.N.E. >:( :) Disclaimer: This post is meant to be funny and not a flamebait of any sort... -- Dinesh A. Joshi

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Service interruption
by Anurag 30 May '06

30 May '06

Hello, Due to a minor DNS issue with tifr.res.in registry at NCST, ILUG-BOM website and mailing list may not be accessible for a day. We are looking into the problem and trying to resolve it at the earliest. Please try again after sometime if your postings do not get delivered to the list. thanks Anurag -- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ n. (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.

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kdevelop tool view ... annoyance
by Steven Joseph 29 May '06

29 May '06

HI, im having a little trouble finding if there is any shortcut in kdevelop to close any open tool view. -- Life would have been a lot more easier if we could look at the source code.

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CyberCafe - Time Bounded User Control.
by bimal pandit 28 May '06

28 May '06

Dear All, recently one of my friend came to me and asked to setup a proxy server for his cyber cafe, though the setup and configuration is not an issue but the control/management of user with time boundation is!!! what I mean is He need to have time bounded user access, as what happens in cybercafe is a user comes in, a username and password is provided to him with a validity in time e.g. 1Hrs., 2Hrs. etc as per the charge and time decided by the cafe owner and requested by the user, so I am looking for such a tool which can do the same for such a cybercafe based on squid and linux as a platform. In this regard I need help from you to guide me if there is such a tool exists or some pointer to acheive this. regards, Bimal Pandit

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Driver development kit
by jtd 28 May '06

28 May '06

Useful stuff for the final yr project challenged. "Have you ever felt teased when driver developers of other operating systems teased you about a lack of a "proper" driver development kit for Linux? Have you felt left out of the crowd when looking at the 36 cdrom package of documentation and example source code that other operating systems provide for their developers? Well feel ashamed no longer!" http://www.kroah.com/log/2006/05/24/#ddk -- Rgds JTD

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Linux distro posters ...
by Arun K. Khan 27 May '06

27 May '06

On the lighter side. http://www.flickr.com/photos/glagla/sets/1177687/show/ -- Arun Khan (knura at yahoo dot com) In the long run, every program becomes rococo, and then rubble. -- Alan Perlis

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OO.org on Rediff - It is a threat to Microsoft Office!
by Dinesh Shah 26 May '06

26 May '06

At the outset, this article was written in OpenOffice Writer - a word processor comparable to Microsoft Word. The Writer is just one part of the suite called OpenOffice.org - touted as "open source" competition to Microsoft Office. The original version was slow and clunky. However, with the latest version (2.0), OpenOffice.org has made it worthwhile to be written about. http://in.rediff.com/money/2006/may/26spec1.htm Enjoy! -- --Dinesh Shah :-) <Dinesh(a)ShahMicro.com> Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] CyberCafe - Time Bounded User Control.
by bimal pandit 26 May '06

26 May '06

Dear Javed, On Thu, 25 May 2006 Javed Dhanani wrote : >> >> I am looking for such a tool which can do the same for such a cybercafe >>based on squid and linux as a platform. >> >>One of my friends has a complete software for cybercafe based on linux >with user, cache and bandwidth controls. >Mail me off the list if you are interested. >-- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers only with "User" regards, Bimal Pandit

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MIT $100 laptop (one laptop per child)
by Arun Khan 25 May '06

25 May '06

Pictures of the first prototype units; runs Fedora - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pete/sets/72057594143224765/ Project web site: http://www.laptop.org/index.en_US.html -- Arun Khan

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cd enhanced
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 25 May '06

25 May '06

Add the following lines to your ~/.bashrc, and you will be able to go back and forward in bash as we are used to in Nautilus and Konqueror. Use cd [ and cd ] to avail the features: __COUNT=0 __BACK=0 cd () { if [ "${1}" = "[" ]; then if [ "${__BACK}" -lt "${__COUNT}" ]; then pushd +1 > /dev/null __BACK=$(($__BACK+1)) else echo "can't go back any more" fi elif [ "${1}" = "]" ]; then if [ "${__BACK}" != 0 ]; then pushd -0 > /dev/null __BACK=$(($__BACK-1)) else echo "can't go forward any more" fi elif [ "${1}" = "." ]; then builtin cd "${@}" else if [ "${1}" = "-" ]; then pushd "${OLDPWD}" > /dev/null elif [ "${#}" -eq 0 ]; then pushd "${HOME}" > /dev/null else pushd "${@}" > /dev/null fi while [ "${__BACK}" -gt 0 ]; do popd -0 > /dev/null __BACK=$(($__BACK-1)) done __COUNT=$(($__COUNT+1)) fi } Happy hacking, Debarshi

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[Commercial] Drupal programmers wanted in Mumbai
by Sierra Bravo 24 May '06

24 May '06

Dear all Programmers proficient in Drupal wanted for migrating the website of a member-based professional society to Drupal. The site is of moderate complexity, with about 15,000 members. Programmers should have had prior experience with managing websites of this magnitude on FOSS platforms. Please reply off-list. Thanks and good luck, Linuxers sb

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GRUB, MBR and NTLDR confusion
by िऩऩाद 24 May '06

24 May '06

Hi I have 2 hard disks. /dev/hda(primary) and /dev/hdb(slave) 40gb each. I have been facing a problem of bootloaders when installed on the MBR. To be safe and avoid any further problems I have decided to go with ntldr the windows bootloader. My first hdd has Win XP Slack 10.2 and FC3. The 2nd hd is solely for experimentation and contains Ubuntu 5.10 only. Whilst googling for information I found that GRUB can be loaded on to the boot partition instead of the MBR and also ona floppy or CD. Now my problem is I do not have a seperate boot partition. In turn whilst installing ubuntu I installed GRUB on /dev/hdb2. I created a linux.bin file by issuing dd if=/dev/hdb2 of=/linux.bin bs=512 count=1 and copied it to C:\ and also added it to boot.ini and named it as linux. When I start the pc I get this option along with the windows XP option but on selecting it the system hangs with a constant beeping sound. Is there any other solution? Have I gone wrong somewhere? I do not want to install GRUB on to MBR but instead use the ntldr to boot Linux Currently I am booting by inserting the first cd of the slackware and issuing the boot command with the root as the specific partition Thanks and Regards Ninad Bapat

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[OT] mATX Motherboard in ATX Cabinet
by Antriksh Bajaj 24 May '06

24 May '06

Hi all, I have a 2 yr old PC with the following specs: ASUS A7V8X-MX SE Motherboard (mATX) AMD Athlon XP 2600+ VIA KM 400 Chipset 256 MB RAM (DDR 266) 40 GB HDD MATX cabinet, 240 W power supply As this is an mATX motherboard so I was wondering if I can install this Motherboard in an ATX cabinet. Please tell me is it possible to do so and also is the power supply unit of An ATX cabinet compatible with an mATX motherboard. Thanks in advance. Regards, Antriksh

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[OT] volunteers for new collaboration project
by Rohit V. Bhute 23 May '06

23 May '06

Please take a look at http://hthite.com/ISFwiki/Main_Page This is a nascent project attempting to provide a collaborative platform for (but not limited to) students attempting software projects as part of their academic activities. The platform is not limited to academic projects or even just software. In fact, the concept is barely "out of the brain and onto the web page", to speak of. I request you all to take a look at the project wiki and signup to participate in the discussion. To give you a hint of the brainstorming progress, these are the (so far) two pages with some ideas. http://hthite.com/ISFwiki/Discuss:Project_Name http://hthite.com/ISFwiki/Discuss:Content Activity is low as MU engineering exams are in progress. But others can chip in. Thanks. -- Rohit V. Bhute http://rvbhute.freelinuxhost.com/wordpress

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[OT] volunteers for new collaboration project
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 23 May '06

23 May '06

> Please take a look at > http://hthite.com/ISFwiki/Main_Page I represent the GNU/Linux User Group of NIT Hamirpur (http://www.glug-nith.org). We were also planning something similar for our college only. But it would be better if we can have something which is meant for all Indian universities. Maybe the service can be linked to existing services like Savannah, Sarovar, Sourceforge. > Activity is low as MU engineering exams are in progress. But others can > chip in. We are also having ours. :( Regards, Debarshi

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Securing email ... Linux servers ... GNU/Linux CLI ... Lyx ... game clones of Tetris
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 22 May '06

22 May '06

Issue 12 of Free Software Magazine is out Another great issue with 10 articles on various aspects of free software. It's available in HTML and PDF download... for free! In Issue 12 of Free Software Magazine, Jerome Gotangco guides us through securing email communication and Yousef Ourabi shows us how to harden our Linux servers. Rosalyn Hunter introduces the GNU/Linux CLI for beginners and Terry Hancock explains LyX. We also get to have some fun when Robin Monks reviews some clones of a classic game: Tetris. And more... Download the whole issue as a high-resolution PDF file! http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/issues/issue_012

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Re: Problem printing with Gnome/RH9
by vvcrishna＠radiophony.com 22 May '06

22 May '06

Rony had advised me to try editing the printer selector in each application. I tried doing this with Mozilla, but cannot see the right way to edit the module using a line editor. Siddhesh also asked whether I was setting up OpenOffice for the printer, but I haven't done this, nor can I see how it is done. The OpenOffice installation was done long before the printer arrived. In case this is a very small fix, please mail me separately to avoid list noise, or point me to a faq where this is fully explained. Vickram

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CNN interviews Linus Torvalds
by Arun K. Khan 22 May '06

22 May '06

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/BUSINESS/05/18/global.office.linustorvalds/

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Light weight google Calendar
by Francis 22 May '06

22 May '06

I was wondering how to extract data from the body of a HTTP 200 ok Header using PHP. What I am trying to do is to write a light weight GUI that connects to google Calendar[www.google.com/calendar] ! Why do this : Simple my cellphone does not support AJAX and I want to be able to update the calendar on the move from my cell !! I am sending the username along with password and a couple of other variables that google needs , to their authentication url [ http://francis.byethost22.com/googlelogin.php ] . In response it sends back a Auth token which I need to place in a cookie . How on god's green earth do I extract the token !! Francis . Warm Summerr !!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] CNN interviews Linus Torvalds
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 21 May '06

21 May '06

>> RMS was NEVER associated with the Open Source movement. He is the >> founder of the free software movement, the GNU Project and the Free >> Software Foundation, and none of these are part of the Open Source >> movement. Atleast not according to RMS. (And I am a RMS fan.) >> > Think OpenSource and GNU without Linux. > Don't separate the things - Why one should envy or be jelous to any of > our community? And by hating each other - only M$ is gaining and > laughing at us. I am wondering why people starting GNOME v/s KDE and > Linux v/s GNU/Linux wars? Stating the fact that RMS was NOT a part of the Open Source movement does not convey any hatred towards anybody. It just clears some misinformation. In the same way that, if I said I am not part of the Indian cricket team I would not convey any hatred towards Indian cricket. :D Being a member of a GLUG (there IS a difference between a LUG and a GLUG, however subtle that maybe), we are expected to be aware of the differences between these various entities and terms. Otherwise how are we going to spread awareness about GNU/Linux. I found many of my fellow members refer to "the GNU utilities being used by Linux". Well that is again a mistake. Linux is the kernel which is a part of the whole operating system, which the GNU project, sponsored by the FSF started. There are other GNU based systems that use other kernels. eg., GNU/Hurd. Yeah it is true Hurd is still far from being complete, but that is again another matter. It is not a matter of a GNU/Linux vs. Linux warfare, it is just about getting the record straight. Linus Torvalds should get full credit for developing such a wonderful monolithic kernel, and releasing it under the GNU GPL. Similarly RMS should be credited with spearheading other components of the system. Namely the compiler (GCC), a text editor (GNU Emacs), the debugger (GDB), the shell (GNU Bash), a desktop environment (GNOME), the bootloader (GRUB) and so on. These are very important parts of the system without which Linux would not have been able to survive. The other way round is true also. So honestly there is no scope for flame wars, as long we give credit where it is due. Regards, Debarshi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] CNN interviews Linus Torvalds
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 21 May '06

21 May '06

>> http://edition.cnn.com/2006/BUSINESS/05/18/global.office.linustorvald >>s/ > Linus isn't really the father of the open source movement. RMS has a > lions share to say the least :) RMS was NEVER associated with the Open Source movement. He is the founder of the free software movement, the GNU Project and the Free Software Foundation, and none of these are part of the Open Source movement. Atleast not according to RMS. (And I am a RMS fan.) Debarshi

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[ot] mono laser printer recommendation?
by Abhishek Daga 21 May '06

21 May '06

hi, am looking for a mono laser printer (and/or multifunctional device) where the primary criteria is economy in running cost. my guess is that those toners that can be refilled with ease (as opposed to buying new cartridge each time) drastically brings down the cost. is that correct? if so then what are the printers that allow for this? Speaking of multifunctional devices, are they really compelling? especially the ones which have Fax and PC fax? the samsung multifunctional 4110 is only 2000 more than regular mono laser but without a fax. any recommendations based on first hand experience, highly solicited. thanks abhishek __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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ET:Microsoft and Open Source
by Nikhil Marathe 20 May '06

20 May '06

Today's economic times(pg 13) has an interbiew with some microsoft guy about the companies outlook to open source. It seems he didn't know what he was talking about. There are a few things which stand out. 1. "We see open source as a software development method" He undoubtedly has still not opened his eyes to the revolution 2. "We compete with OSS products" He continued to mention red hat, ibm and oracle. THey don't realise that the bigger threat is from the stuff that matters to the majority of the people. its projects like KDE and ubuntu leading to their gradual fall, the ones that matter to the common people, not products made by some company. 3. "OSS is at its peak" I thought we are still at the foot of the mountain (or a plateau since we never go down) while microsoft is finished climbing and now going down 4. "99% of devs work on drivers and such" Yes i suppose kde/gnome/etc are all device drivers offering a protocol to communicate with the user's brain. its not the kernel thats starting to matter these days, its the software on top of it. I have always been one who doesn't give a damn about enterprise level software. its not a big problem if linux doesn't reach there, it is almost never seen by Average Joe. the place where it matters on the desktop, the DE's, the search tools, the browsers, the multimedia. That is what is going to reinforce linux on the desktop, that is m$ biggest threat since most of their revenue comes from windows. M$ seriously has to wake up and reassess the situation, they are still stuck in the OSS situation of say 5 years ago. What are your views on the article. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Debian Hosting
by Anil Gupte 20 May '06

20 May '06

BlankTrying this again since my first message got munged. Can anyone recommend a reliable hosting provider on Debian in preferably in Pune? We need MySQL and the ability to do scripting/perl/PHP. Alternately any suggestions for possible co-location of a small server? Thanx, Anil Gupte

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Books on Debian
by deshpande＠vsnl.com 20 May '06

20 May '06

Hi Can you suggest me good books on debian administration Thanks in anticipation MAHESH DESHPANDE Trainer for Linux Installations, Linux for End Users.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ET:Microsoft and Open Source
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 20 May '06

20 May '06

>> Must we always draw comparisons with XP? True XP is the most commonly >> used desktop OS, but then someone who has not used XP at all (or >> atleast for quite some time) might think otherwise. I for myself find >> the absence of virtual desktops in XP very irritating! > Umm....I dont use XP. I use Linux 24x7. It is only at the college that I > am *forced* into using XP. Same for me too. :( ;) > But as I said, its very simple to use - even for first timers. Thats not quite true. It is 'simple' because many people use it, or in other words there is a Windows User Group everywhere. :D It might be 'difficult' setting up things in GNU/Linux, but if you think about the system hang-ups, reboots, viruses, etc. the situation changes. > And I find the absence of a full blown CLI in XP crippling :( Quite right. > I use FC5. Dunno what version of GNOME it uses but I certainly couldn't > find it in the right click menu or any of the preferences. I was told > ( on IRC ) that I'll have to edit some files in my home directory to > make that association. Sucks! I use FC5 too and it uses GNOME 2.14. You right click a file and there is an option to 'open this file in another application' in the drop-down menu. By the way I think there is no way to perform hover-select in single-click mode in Nautilus, as it used to be in WIndows. Regards, Debarshi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ET:Microsoft and Open Source
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 20 May '06

20 May '06

> I have run the latest KDE / GNOME > and they are no where near the responsiveness, intuitiveness, > userfriendliness that XP's (or M$) GUI offer. Must we always draw comparisons with XP? True XP is the most commonly used desktop OS, but then someone who has not used XP at all (or atleast for quite some time) might think otherwise. I for myself find the absence of virtual desktops in XP very irritating! > I dont see any > userfriendliness being built into GNOME. As a concrete example, I still > cannot right click any file and associate it with an app. This has been > a standard in M$ GUI for like ever and even KDE guys added it a long > time ago. Yeah this is true. While using FC2, I could not find an easy way to edit the file-type and application associations. But the right-clicking functionality is now present in GNOME 2.14. > it still lacks > a good "control panel" (infact AFAIK it doesnt have one). KDE is far > far ahead of GNOME in this case. Thats again true. Not only that, I can not really differentiate between the logic behind placing an option in the preferences or administration sub-menu in the 'System' menu in GNOME. They look very similar to me. Any idea? By the way I know one Microsoft employee who claimed that Redhat is a very bad open-source company, while giving examples about the economic failures of FOSS based firms. He did not elaborate on Redhat though, although he gave the example of Mandrake going bankrupt. Wonder how good a proprietary software company M$ is? Regards, Debarshi

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Re: ET:Microsoft and Open Source
by Roshan 20 May '06

20 May '06

> 4) People are used to Corel Draw, Photoshop,.Net, Alternatives are there such as Scribus, GAIM, Mono Project but people are not aware. If someone joins any institute for DTP course, he would have to be taught using CorelDraw, Photoshop because, "most" of DTP providers use these. > The list can go on. Please everyone, do not discuss > the individual cases > as the intention is only to highlight the problems. I haven't. But, people who are a part of the list, would know their alternatives, though they cannot be "the" alternative. *snip* > kudos rony! You hit the nail on the head :) But you > need to agree that > KDE and GNOME still have a long way before they can > become as > userfriendly as Windows UI. This brings a thought to my mind. Question: The subscribers of this mailing list, have migrated from Windows to any Linux Distribution, OR have been using GNU/Linux right from the day he/she started learning computers? Because, there would be some people, who like the Windows GUI because they were introduced and taught about the GUI and they would generally resist a change from that GUI to KDE or GNOME. Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com

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[OT] Can CD/DVD writers be repaired?
by Arun K. Khan 20 May '06

20 May '06

I have a CD/DVD writer that does not read any medium. The physical function like eject/insert of the tray works OK. On insert, the external panel LED lights up a for a moment and then nothing. I suspect the LED/head is gone. I want to explore the option of getting it repaired. If you know of any place (in Mumbai) that handles such repairs please contact me off list. Thank you. TIA -- Arun Khan Linux is like a wigwam - no gates, no windows, apache inside

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[OT] Sendmail + LDAP HowTo.
by bimal pandit 19 May '06

19 May '06

Dear All, just to let people configure an email system, I have written an article on it and want that you should go through it, analyse and test it and help me to improve it further, while in case there is any error/mistake or correction is required please let me know. though I am not an expert but your valuable input will help me to understand the mailing system. SendMail + LDAP HowTo. http://fedoranews.org/cms/node/927 regards, Bimal Pandit

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video capture card & VHS to vcd.
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 19 May '06

19 May '06

Hi, How do I go about recording video onto a cd or dvd from: 1. a vhs video cassette (must be able - this is the main purpose) 2. a tv broadcast (good if posible else ..) Actually I was talking to a friend of mine who would like to set this up. I offered to help him if it was a linux based solution. I have googled and found that a lot ot documentation seems to point to video capture cards and tv tuner cards with a certain amount of ambiguity. I have looked up the hardware compatibility lists, websites of mythtv, cinelerra, mjpegtools and a few more. he already has a pretty new machine w/ 2.4 G P4, 512 ram and a 80 GB hd of which we can give linux about 40 GB. He would like to do this professionally somewhere down the line and hence would not be averse to buying a good card. I want to know which card is a better bet, a video capture card or a tv tuner card. recording tv broadcasts though is not a priority or even a necessity, the aded ability would just be icing on the cake. Any personal experiences ? thanks a mil. Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K R Pavri. Homoeopath, Linuxer. Why are they called apartments when they are all stuck together?

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[OT] About Plan 9
by Mohan Nayaka 19 May '06

19 May '06

Hi everyone. Just out of curiosity ; has anyone in this group tried out Plan 9 ? http://cm.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/download/ has a live CD. The ISO image is just 75.5 MB. i am downloading it. will try it out today. By the way I installed Dapper Beta 2 yesterday. Boot-up has improved in this release. The installer crashed in between. I put in a bug report & they said that this issue was rectified in the latest nightly build. All is well but no audio o/p :( (in DB2) Anyway, this seems to be a intermittent configuration configuration problem with xmms since 5.10 xmms seems to be fragile. The least mistake in configuring it makes it unusable. Any suggestions for a better music player ? I am now trying out kmplayer. Regards, Mohan S N -- There will be plenty of time to rest in the grave. - Paul Erdos

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Debian Hosting
by Anil Gupte 19 May '06

19 May '06

BlankCan anyone recommend a reliable hosting provider on Debian in preferably in Pune? We need MySQL and the ability to do scripting/perl/PHP. Alternately any suggestions for possible co-location of a small server? Thanx, Anil Gupte

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Chip FC5 bad ISOs.
by PenguinPuPPy 19 May '06

19 May '06

I am a subscriber of LFY and my experience with CD/DVD is also the same 30% to 40% of the time I get faulty CD/DVD's but hey are good enough to replace them though it make take upto 10 days.I have also communicated this to LFY to improve upon their CD quality but i guess what you said is right untill and unless there is a mass level complaint nothing seems to work.

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Future of OS
by deshpande＠vsnl.com 18 May '06

18 May '06

Hi REF the current discussions about M$ and their commitment to OSS.. Till today the OS has following attribs.. Most essential part of a computer for controlling access to h/w M$ dominant in OS So comtrols many applications ?? !! M$ has max profit in WORD (60% ?) So its not OS its APPS thts future Enter GOOGLE and its gmail services one of the MOST used apps (% ??) you(a)gmail.com is fantastic it is slowly being expanded to anynames(a)yourdomain.com That means for users of mail servers no installation no maintainance no spam ? If this becomes successful Google will be a dominant application server In such a scenario (in future) an OS will become equivalent to hardware just a tool to connect to the net. Then once you are on the net what matters which application is best by which suppliers. For mail and groupware I may connect to Google For Word or doc I may connect M$ That means no purchasing of Apps Now the BIG Question for the companies who are heavily dependant on their apps what ................ ANY TAKERS FOR THIS.... MAHESH DESHPANDE Trainer for Linux Installations, Linux for End Users.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [ot] mono laser printer recommendation?
by deshpande＠vsnl.com 18 May '06

18 May '06

Hello All A thought on printers.... We generally have two types of print jobs 1. light jobs :- are usually needed "right now" typically 1-2 pages economy is not the criteria 2. Heavy jobs :- Its OK if we get the jobs next day, done from a Print Shop in Andheri or so.. SHOULD BE ECONOMICAL and preferably managable via e-mails.. This seems to be a good business proposal and very good for us who need heavy printing jobs If anybody knows such printer peopl pl let us know ONE MORE India could become a PRINT AND POST HUB FOR THE WORLD !!!!!!!!! Any Takers ;) MAHESH DESHPANDE Trainer for Linux Installations, Linux for End Users.

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Breaking News !
by Prabhat Sandheliya 18 May '06

18 May '06

Hi guys, I am sure you remember, the story I posted few days back, on the mailing list ( http://groups.google.com/group/lug-indore )about Ankit Fadia, "Ankit Fadia : The real picture " . There is a new twist in the story. :-) I sent this mail to various people, including one IT and Cyber Law expert, Deepti Chopra. She also felt that Mr Fadia is doing something fraud and misleading people. She talked to Certificate authority of India and questioned about the authenticity and credibility of the certificate. When I posted the original story to various people, I got many positive responses. I forwarded all those mails to Deepti and she passed them to the Certificate authority of India. Now the twist in the story. :-) Deepti just informed me that, she got positive reply from Certificate authority of India. They have issued a notice to Mr Fadia and CEO, Reliance Web World to stop the issuing certificates. Now we are also thinking about taking some legal action against Mr Fadia and Reliance Web World. Cheers to our victory over unethical business practice and fraud. :-) Do send me your suggestions and views. -- Prabhat Sandheliya --------------------------------------------------------------------- Promote Linux - Join mailing list : http://groups.google.com/group/lug-indore (Linux Users Group - Indore)

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Problem printing with Gnome/RH9
by vvcrishna＠radiophony.com 17 May '06

17 May '06

I am running gnome/RH9, and it has an annoying non-printing problem. When I bring up Print Manager (which turns out to be a gnome utility) it first says there are no printers and then helpfully asks if I would like to add any, using the Printer Configuration Tool. Upon clicking "yes", this comes up, immediately showing my HP DJ 840C exists and has a path already laid out. I can "Edit" this but there is nothing to add that I can see. When I close the edit box, I have the option to "Apply" the new settings, but even after doing so, the Print Manager fails to show me any printers. While I can print a test page from the configuration tool, I can't print anything else, meaning no documents created or viewed in OpenOffice, or pdfs or pix. How do I fix this problem?

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Re: Problem printing with Gnome/RH9
by vvcrishna＠radiophony.com 17 May '06

17 May '06

Quoting Siddhesh Poyarekar: > > While I can print a test page from the configuration tool, I can't print > > anything else, meaning no documents created or viewed in OpenOffice, or > pdfs or > > pix. > > > > How do I fix this problem? > Are you setting up openoffice to use the new printer? I think that is > required. I don't see any option like that. OpenOffice wants to use a 'generic' printer by default, because gnome can't see the attached printer, while the printer configurator can. These two parts of the total set don't seem to be sitting at the same table. In any case, it is not just OpenOffice, I can't print at all, except the test page (from the printer set-up tool within the configurator).

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Commercial - TAX Calculator
by TAC Forums 17 May '06

17 May '06

Hi We downloaded the tax calculation sheet from the link below. http://ynithya.com/taxcalc/TaxCalc_2006.xls We opened the said file in MS Excel, filled in all the necessary and required cells and it calculated the tax for us. However later when we opened the document in Open Office 2.0 the tax calculated was almost doubled without making any changes to the documents. We posted a query in the openoffice list and got the following reply. ========================================================== Have you re-written the macros in OOoBASIC? I think this task needs to be done before you can use this spreadsheet properly under OOo. To help you with this task, see the Cross-reference docs and tools at http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/index.html Remember, OOo does not use VB. ========================================================== Would anybody be interested in taking up this task and how much would it cost. Would appreciate an offline formal quotation for the same on the following email address support(a)theargoncompany.com. -- TAC Support Team

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Squirrelmail password changing option
by Ramang G 16 May '06

16 May '06

HI, I have installed squirrelmail successfully but iam not able to change the password .Any help? thanx in advance, Raman. --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.

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Chip FC5 bad ISOs.
by ronbillypop＠yahoo.co.uk 15 May '06

15 May '06

Hello All, The Chip DVD containing the FC5 ISOs has a bad disk_2 iso. Even the replacement dvd has the same problem. Has anyone else faced the same problem? Regards, Rony. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] DSL not working in SUSE 10.0
by अिनकॆत (Aniket) 15 May '06

15 May '06

> > > > I am going to install SUSE 10.1 in a few days. > x86-64 edition, by any chance? > Nopes I have SUSE 10.1 - i386 version . Just downloaded it. If anyone wants , please contact me , I can burn them for you after June 12th, after my exams end. Mail me off the list.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Ubuntu CDs and Debuging using gcc
by Roshan 15 May '06

15 May '06

> Dear All > > We ( K.J.Somaiya College of Engineering , > Vidyavihar Mumbai) are > organising Short Term Training Program on OPEN > SOURCE SOFTWARES : An > Effective Way Managing Engineering Education > between May 15 and May 26 > 2006. > We plan to distribute *Ubuntu Linux* to all > participants ( around 50) so > please guide me from where I will get those CDs of > Ubuntu Linux. Sir, It's a little late, for this. You could have got free CD's (as many as you wish) of Ubuntu Linux (packaged, with good paper covers) from http://shipit.ubuntu.com but, you had to order it atleast a month before. I am a student of S K Somaiya College of Arts, Science and Commerce, pursuing my T. Y. BSc (I. T.), and my university exams end tomorrow. If required, I can give a copy of Ubuntu 5.10 tomorrow, and you could make multiple copies of it on blank CD-R's and distribute. > One more problem please guide me *How to debug > using gcc* or any other > book for that because I plan deliver the > lecture on that topic. In one of my bookmarks, I had this link ... http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/ Debugging-Options.html Hopefully, it should be helpful __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. http://in.answers.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] DSL not working in SUSE 10.0
by अिनकॆत (Aniket) 15 May '06

15 May '06

> > > > I have a similar connection with two different linux machines. Both need > different > methods to connect. One of the two methods can help you. > > I think you need to check the IP settings. Mostly your server is not > supporting > DHCP. so you need to find out the IP address you need for your ethernet > card > and > assign the same to it mannually. Before doing adsl-setup/adsl-start you > can > try : > # ifconfig eth0 [your IP address] > > 1. or better run network configuration service: > # system-config-network > and edit the configuration of your ethernet card(mostly eth0). Fill in the > IP address, > Subnet mask, and default gateway. I'm not sure if this service is > available > in SuSE. > > 2. Otherwise, if available you can try #netcardconfig and #pppoeconf > commands as well . > to do the same. > > PPPOE does not need any IP addresses to be put up. Its the same as dialup connection , the only additional parameter being that one has to specify "service name" along with username and password. You are confusing DHCP with PPPoE. Also PPPoE is not dependant on the IP address assigned to the LAN card , it can be anything or nothing. So you do not have to specify the Default Gateway , DNS etc ..its done automatically each time a connection is made. The easiest way to setup a PPPoE connection is as follows.... 1> run "/sbin/pppoe -A" from the terminal and note down the service name. 2>If you are using any RedHat system , just fire up "system-config-network" and in new connection select "XDSL" , enter username password and service name . 3> If using Ubuntu , do "sudo pppoeconf" and just follow the instructions on screen. Also remember that you have to set the MTU/MRU to 1492 or such value and _NOT_ 1500 for PPPoE to work properly. 4>In SUSE you can do it using Yast /Kinternet , I had done it once long time ago in SUSE 9.1 LIVE Cd. Dont remember the procedure exactly. If anyone can shed more light on this please....I am going to install SUSE 10.1 in a few days. -- The Future is Open...The Future is LINUX

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Ubuntu CDs and Debuging using gcc
by Manish Potey 15 May '06

15 May '06

Dear All We ( K.J.Somaiya College of Engineering , Vidyavihar Mumbai) are organising Short Term Training Program on OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARES : An Effective Way Managing Engineering Education between May 15 and May 26 2006. We plan to distribute *Ubuntu Linux* to all participants ( around 50) so please guide me from where I will get those CDs of Ubuntu Linux. One more problem please guide me *How to debug using gcc* or any other book for that because I plan deliver the lecture on that topic. Manish Potey Asstt Prof. Department of Computer Engineering K.J.Somaiya College of Engineering Vidyavihar Mumbai

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[ot] faircom DB and c-tree
by Abhishek Daga 14 May '06

14 May '06

hi, Anyone familiar with Faircom DB and C-tree please contact me off list. I may have an interesting project to work on. thanks abhi *********************************************************************** According to the theory of aerodynamics, a bumble bee cannot fly. A bumble bee is not aware of this theory and so it decides to fly anyway. *********************************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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DSL not working in SUSE 10.0
by Sandesh Singh 14 May '06

14 May '06

Hello all. My internet provider switched to PPPoE recently. It works fine in Windows. I used `adsl-setup' to set up the DSL connection in SuSE, and ran `adsl-start'. Even though it said `Connected', none of the webpages show up. Any pointers? I forgot to save the output of `adsl-setup', would that help? Thanks in advance ...

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] DSL not working in SUSE 10.0
by अिनकॆत (Aniket) 13 May '06

13 May '06

<Sandesh Singh> wrote > I had the default gateway set up from the previous connection. > Clearing away that field got things in place. > > Just out of curiousity , I wanna know which ISP you have? And in which area? Because it looks like a progressive ISP . PPPOE is standards based technology and it effectively ensures access from all OS's. , and not just windows as is the case of SIFY who use a LAN-Gateway model and just have a shitty proprietary dilaer for windows.

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DSL not working in SUSE 10.0
by PenguinPuPPy 13 May '06

13 May '06

Dear Sandesh For configuring your pppoe service in SUSE 10.0 there is no need to use rpppoe i.e adsl-setup and all that... simple configutr it using smppd which is a very good utility for adsl.Go to YAST->N/W devices-> DSL and follow the Menu. (Type Alt-F2 and then type yast)to run YAST

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Got it ... (Re: DSL not working in SUSE 10.0)
by Sandesh Singh 13 May '06

13 May '06

On 5/12/06, Sandesh Singh <sandesh.lug(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all. > > My internet provider switched to PPPoE recently. I had the default gateway set up from the previous connection. Clearing away that field got things in place. -- sss http://sandesh247.googlepages.com/

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ILUG-BOM] OT:Good Dialup service
by PenguinPuPPy 12 May '06

12 May '06

Well whatever the service you may choose please do not go for Pacenet .I have been facing continues disconnections but the customer service only gives excuses and promises to do a miracle which never turns up. -- To Love The Penguin(aka TUX) You Need To Be As Faithful As A Puppy

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Re: OT:Good Dialup service
by Roshan 12 May '06

12 May '06

> I had taken a broadband connection with the thought > that I would get a > always on connection. Also it would be easier to > download distros through > bittorrent which I have done in the past months. But > after that I realised > that I do not download distros everyday. So my usage > was limited to > downloads of distros and other stuff and > surfing/chat/irc/email > Although I am continuing with the existing broadband > for another month I > want to have a dialup for those intermittent > downtimes. Which broadband are you using currently?..... > What are my options. > 1.MTNL (already have a phone and need to connect > modem and dial have done > it earlier from windows and linux both) > 2.Reliance(somebody in office suggested it have made > an inquiry) > 3.Tata Indicom(have used it at my friends house and > speeds are ok for normal > activities) > 4.Any other suggestions and alternatives are welcome I suppose, any dial-up connection would not serve as " the best" for what you use, the internet for. If you are using any GNU/Linux distro, and considering dial-up, make sure, you have your modem drivers ready for that! If you don't want to waste time searching for it, I would recommend, MTNL's TRIBAND as the best option for any purpose. If you are very keen in downloading distro's then you can go for MTNL's 590 Night Unlimited PLAN, else you can go for 199 per month scheme. This is not advertising, just giving you the best options ;) __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. http://in.answers.yahoo.com

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OT:Good Dialup service
by िऩऩाद 12 May '06

12 May '06

Hi I have a broadband service of Exatt. I have it since last 6 months. It is a monthly service(per month payment +unlimited usage) from a local dealer with a makeshift office who provided internet connection for various ISP's. In the last 4 months there has been too much downtime. Sometimes when you need to check mails or just get on to IRC or chat with relatives it is down. Sometimes the service is down for 3+ days.Contacting the person does not give any plausible answers. I had taken a broadband connection with the thought that I would get a always on connection. Also it would be easier to download distros through bittorrent which I have done in the past months. But after that I realised that I do not download distros everyday. So my usage was limited to downloads of distros and other stuff and surfing/chat/irc/email Although I am continuing with the existing broadband for another month I want to have a dialup for those intermittent downtimes. What are my options. 1.MTNL (already have a phone and need to connect modem and dial have done it earlier from windows and linux both) 2.Reliance(somebody in office suggested it have made an inquiry) 3.Tata Indicom(have used it at my friends house and speeds are ok for normal activities) 4.Any other suggestions and alternatives are welcome Thanks िऩऩाद बापट

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[commercial]Need Tcl/Tk programmer
by hemendra jain 12 May '06

12 May '06

Dear Friends, I need a Tcl/Tk programmer. Job is a simple 2D appln. Rgds, Hemendra Jain

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need someone to service computers with Linux installed in Borivali-Dahisar
by bombay news 11 May '06

11 May '06

Dear all, Am unable to find any computer hardware dealer in Borivli-Dahisar who is experienced in installing Linux apps. I have Windows XP running presently and need to install Linux in a partition. I am not keen to do this on my own. Can anyone help ? Regards Shiv Kumar _________________________________________________________________ Who will win Bollywoods most coveted IIFA awards? You decide! Cast your vote! http://server1.msn.co.in/sp06/IIFA2006/static/weekend.asp

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[OT] Reliance fixed line username/password.
by Nadeem M Khan 11 May '06

11 May '06

Hi. I'm using Reliance fixed line phone for Internet access with wvdial on RHEL 3. I've had no problems with it till they changed the dial up number from 30335151 to 172479. Now it dials all right, but refuses to authenticate me. I'm using a blank username and blank password as before. Has anyone managed to connect using the new number? Their CC ofcourse "have not been informed about any other changes except the dial up number." Thanks in advance. Regards, NMK.

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Re: BarCamp Mumbai
by Roshan 11 May '06

11 May '06

> Don't you think everything "cool" happens during the > exam time? :/ Come > on we are probably the right age group and people to > target. We are > keen on learning Linux but nooo....all these events > *have* to be > scheduled exactly when Engineering students have > their exams... :/ Umm...looking the things that are happening around, like the FOSS Documentary, this BAR CAMP, etc..I probably feel the same.. I think, we'll have opportunities sometime later, and we would be fascinated by having a combination of feeling; of what we have missed out! ;) ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. http://in.answers.yahoo.com

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Google search for Linux, India ranks second
by Nikhil Marathe 11 May '06

11 May '06

http://www.google.com/trends?q=linux India ranks second in the regionwide listing for searching 'linux' in google, US isn't even on the list.

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Re: BarCamp Mumbai
by Roshan 11 May '06

11 May '06

> No slides. This isn't as much of a formal > presentation as a scaled up > BoF. Oh, I actually have a practise of doing it the formal way. I somehow feel, that this method is comparatively comprehensive way of speaking about something.. > Yes. Speak about something interesting, speak about > cool stuff you have > been doing... Aah..nothing special as such....I would have to read more to do "cool" stuff, I would be doing it after my university examinations end.... If I am attending, can I just listen to what others speak?..I gain a piece of knowledge from everyone who would speak...and I can build upon that later..... __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. http://in.answers.yahoo.com

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Frugalware:automounting/unmounting media
by Nikhil Marathe 10 May '06

10 May '06

I have installed frugalware 0.4 and installed hal/dbus/pmount/udev. Whenever I plug in a usb stick or a cd KDE(3.5) pops up a dialog but is unable to mount it. Also no entry is created automatically in /media eg. /media/sda1. What is to be done to enable auto mounting/unmounting. its ok if KDE's media:/ protocol cannot access it but it should be automatically mounted in /media and it shouldn't need a fstab entry. Thanks Nikhil -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Books on Perl , Shell Scripting [Manoj Bohara]
by Manoj Bohara 09 May '06

09 May '06

Dear ILUG Members , Can anybody refer some good books on Shell and Perl scripting for beginners . I would be working on these languages days coming forward and hence wanted to get acquainted for the same . Thanks in Advance . Manoj Bohara Project Engineer Wipro Technologies , Hyderabad . Manoj Bohara "If we try , we risk failure but if we don't we are doomed" --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

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[commercial] [jobs] lamp programmer
by SeekingGyan 09 May '06

09 May '06

Hi List A Bombay based Search Engine Marketing company needs LAMP ( PHP / Perl ) developers, the company is Pinstorm Technologies Pvt Ltd,to know more about plz visit www.pinstorm.com and is amongst Red Herring's top 100 Asia Companies for 2005. Profile 1-2 years of relevant tech experience PHP/ MySQL/ Python/ Ruby(Ruby on Rails) Design and Analysis of Products / Analytics / Microsites / Commerce sites Outstanding programming skills Team building skills Innovative and brilliant Have handled complete product cycle In-depth knowledge of search engines a plus Knowledge of blogs / forums / shopping cart tools in LAMP is another plus . Compensation: Competitive Location: Mumbai Please mail resumes to : namrata(a)pinstorm.com or call : +91 22 2640 6456 / 59 . You may want to put GLUG-BOM in the subject. Please forward this msg to everyone you know who might be interested . Regards Harsh Busa

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Re: COMING SOON! The Code Breakers - A BBC World Documentary on Free/Open Source Software and Development
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 09 May '06

09 May '06

> According to Jonathan Murray of Microsoft "The Open Source > community stimulates innovation in software, it's something > that frankly we feel very good about and it's something that > we absolutely see as being a partnership with Microsoft." Can anybody verify that Jonathan Murray did say that beyond any doubt? Not that I doubt it, but I have a friend who works in Microsoft and I can not wait to tell him about this. Regards, Debarshi

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[Fw: Important : RMS mistreated during ATI protest]
by Anurag 09 May '06

09 May '06

Forwarding mail from Vihan in verbatim.. Anurag Subject: Important : RMS mistreated during ATI protest Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 12:43:16 +0530 From: "Vihan Pandey" <vihanpandey(a)gmail.com> Return-path: <vihanpandey(a)gmail.com> To: "Anurag Patel" <anurag(a)gnu.org.in> Hi Anurag! Long time how have you been ? i wanted a favour. i wanted to send a mail on the ilug-bom mailing list but it got rejected because it was too big. It's an important mail if you could please send it across i would be very grateful. Regards, - vihan The mail : Hello everyone, i know its been a VERY long time since i last mailed, but here i am now - back again. This news is little over a month old and there may be those of you who may already know. However for those who don't please read this link : http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/rms-ati-protest.html ATI has consistently disregarded making their drivers and other software Free Software. Releasing a GNU/Linux driver for some video cards that too under proprietary terms is NOT the solution. This incident clearly proves that if we don't start taking our freedom seriously, Huxley's "Brave New World" is right around the corner. It also shows that it takes courage to d= o the right thing, stand up for what you believe in fight injustice in every way possible. i know this sounds clich=E9 but let's face it the way things = are going - companies(especially hardware one's) are becoming more and more restrictive regarding their products, as technology becomes more complex it will become harder and harder for hackers to figure out. There's no doubt that people will find walk around's or even break any restrictions imposed. But prevention IS better than cure, we have to take this issue at a social level and treat it seriously. The Free Software movement has been a beacon of inspiration in this light where other's have chosen to stay silent or less vocal. Nagrajuna's mail "OSS Philosophy Explained" makes absolute sense in this context. i saw the responses to it by the OSS community. Russ Nelson wrote that "Richard appeals to intellectuals by advocating for the concept of freedom. Intellectuals constitute a minority, say 10% of the population. We appeal to the majority by advocating for the value of freedom. The other 90% of the population whom Richard cannot reach will be convinced by the experience of freedom rather than the concept of freedom."(see : http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20060424/025576.ht= ml). However understanding a concept is the 1st step actually realizing a truth. If you mearly "experience" without knowing or acknowledging you simply take things for granted and that is something what the majority of people actually do. The folly is when this happens, people don't care about that concept(in this case the concept being FREEDOM) and are happy in their "experience". However when the "experience" is lost or threatened by "Big Brother" they feel the pinch and thus it becomes important to educate and talk about it. Which is EXACTLY what the Free Software movement proactively does. Isn't it therefore prudent to start acknowledging the concept NOW rather than until its too late ? Michael Tiemann very eloquently wrote "The OSI chose to create a tent larger than the free software tent. We accepted non-free licenses because we wanted to give voice to people writing software and sharing source code who did so for reasons other than moral freedom. Is it wrong to accept works that strive for technical excellence independent of social agendas? As a scientist and an engineer (BS CSE, University of Pennsylvania 1986) I have to say no:the scientific method is, and must be independent from all moral frameworks. Does this make science immoral or amoral? Certainly there are those who apply or ignore science in immoral ways. But science itself is concerned with evidence and falsification, not morals. Open Source allows for software to be independent from freedom, while at the same time offering the kind of freedom that comes from independence" (see: http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20060424/025= 560.html ). True people do share code for reasons other moral ones, however the problem arises when society at large follows this trend then we tend to ignore the value of morals themselves - and the resulting society becomes a living embodiment of cayoss. i agree with the scientific method and approach of "evidence and falsification" but scientific method is a function of scientific conduct and more importantly of scientific ethics. These "moral" grounds are VERY clearly defined for study, research, experiment and process. Therefore are morals not a part of science altogether and wouldn't following them be consistent with scientific method ? Don't get me wrong, i have a lot of respect for many people in the Open Source community i also acknowledge they have given us a lot of great software and licensed it GPL. They have even brought GNU/Linux to a number of places, however i do not agree with their philosophy that ignorin= g the value system of freedom and morals for the sake of "catering to the masses" or "increasing user base" is the way to go. Going back to the original topic i think we ought send ATI a piece of our mind. i suggest each person send a mail to their Public Relations department. Its located here : http://www.ati.com/companyinfo/contact/index.html Goto the "Media Inquires" link. A basic truth about life is that if you want the right to be free you have to be willing to pay the price for it - what ever costs. History has taught us that. History has also taught us what happens when we forget about freedom, morals, ethics and their value systems. WE are responsible for the society we live in, therefore we also have to acknowledge the consequences of our actions when we choose to ignore something. If we want to live in a society that is free we have to respect that ideal. "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - BENJAMIN FRANKLIN(17th January, 1706 - 17th April, 1790)* *Regards, - vihan -- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ n. (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.

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Re: BarCamp Mumbai
by Roshan 09 May '06

09 May '06

> BarCamp Mumbai is happening this Saturday at KReSIT > in IIT Mumbai. It's > a simple gathering of geeks to talk about geeky > stuff. Not restricted > to linux or foss, but I hope there's a good > representation from this > camp. The only prerequisite is that you don't sit > quietly in a corner. My university Exams are going on ...:(... But I have a three day break from 13 - 15th of May...wohoo! > BarCamp is about participation. Everyone needs to > either give a talk or > participate in a discussion. Just show up and write > down on the > whiteboard what you'd like to talk about/discuss. I am not pretty sure about my participation, but I think I can make an attempt to join! Can I speak something about CRM, using a PPT slide? Is a student allowed to do so? --------------------------------- If you don't know something, its always better to learn it and then experiment with components! PLAN THINGS BEFORE EXECUTION! Visit http://www.somaiya.edu You have the ability to change things so that they, not only benefit you but others as well, but you might resist to...think about it! The different distros of GNU/Linux pretty much resemble the different cultures of indians all having the same foundation (the kernel) Use OpenOffice.orgDownload it for windows from http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.0/ "Intentions are written with pencil.Commitments are carved on Stones!" - CLINT A. D'SOUZA __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. http://in.answers.yahoo.com

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Coming soon! *The Code Breakers* (BBC)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 09 May '06

09 May '06

From: "Christine" <christine(a)apdip.net> Date: Mon May 8, 2006 3:49pm Subject: COMING SOON! The Code Breakers - A BBC World Documentary on Free/Open Source Software and Development COMING SOON! "The Code Breakers" A BBC World Documentary on Free/Open Source Software and Development http://www.apdip.net/news/fossdoc ========================================================================== The famous digital divide is getting wider. A two-part documentary, "The Code Breakers," to be aired on BBC World starting 10 May 2006 examines whether free/open source software (FOSS) might be the bridge? FOSS contains 'source code' that can be used, copied, studied, modified and redistributed without restriction. It has been around for over 20 years but most PC owners are not aware that the Internet search engines and many computer applications run on FOSS. "It's not that FOSS has had a bad press, it has had no press because there is no company that 'owns' it," says executive producer Robert Lamb. "But we found that in the computer industry and among the afficionados, it is well known and its virtues well understood." The crew of the independent producers who made the film went to nearly a dozen countries around the world to see how the adoption of FOSS presents opportunities for industry and capacity development, software piracy reduction, and localization and customization for diverse cultural and development needs. Stories from "The Code Breakers" include computer and Internet access for school children in Africa, reaching the poor in Brazil, tortoise breeding programmes in the Galapagos, connecting villages in Spain, and disaster management in Sri Lanka. The documentary also includes interviews from key figures around the world. Intel, IBM, Sun and Microsoft all seem to agree that FOSS is a welcome presence in computer software. According to Jonathan Murray of Microsoft "The Open Source community stimulates innovation in software, it's something that frankly we feel very good about and it's something that we absolutely see as being a partnership with Microsoft." BBC World will air the two-part documentary at the following times: Episode One Wednesday 10 May 19:30 GMT Thursday 11 May 09:30 GMT Friday 12 May 16:30 GMT Monday 15 May 01:30 and 07:30 GMT Episode Two Wednesday 17 May 19:30 GMT Thursday 18 May 09:30 GMT Friday 19 May 16:30 GMT Monday 22 May 01:30 and 07:30 GMT For local times, please lookup your country in the TV Listings on BBC World's website http://www.bbcworld.com/content/template_tvlistings.asp?pageid=668. The International Open Source Network (IOSN), UNDP Asia-Pacific Development Information Programme (UNDP-APDIP), International Development Research Centre of Canada and UNESCO have participated in the production of this documentary. Christine Apikul UNDP-APDIP

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[announce] BarCamp Mumbai
by Philip Tellis 08 May '06

08 May '06

BarCamp Mumbai is happening this Saturday at KReSIT in IIT Mumbai. It's a simple gathering of geeks to talk about geeky stuff. Not restricted to linux or foss, but I hope there's a good representation from this camp. The only prerequisite is that you don't sit quietly in a corner. BarCamp is about participation. Everyone needs to either give a talk or participate in a discussion. Just show up and write down on the whiteboard what you'd like to talk about/discuss. More details here: http://barcamp.org/BarCampMumbai See you there. Philip -- If they can make penicillin out of moldy bread, they can sure make something out of you. -- Muhammad Ali

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Reply to :- Hi, Has anyone succeeded in setting up pacenet internet on ubuntu or fedora?
by PenguinPuPPy 08 May '06

08 May '06

Well first of all I must tell you something about pacent if your friend has just gone for a new connection.Pacenet is one of the worst Companies (forget that its an ISP) i have ever seen in terms of Customer Service and can u believe that the situation was so frustrating that I actually had to meet the managing Director to solve my regular disconnection problems, even then the problem still persists.Well the list is actually very long and trust me the day MTNL starts giving an unlimited download for 24 hours ill rush to the nearest exchange.Now coming to your question well 1.) First of all you will need to call up pacenet and ask them for a Linux account(which initially they will not agree, and if they deny then please post it )well after that you should also ask for the DNS addresses cause they are required 2.) Now you will need to install Rpppoe RPM i.e (Roaring penguin point to point over ethernet) that's the protocol that ISP's use to give you a account. 3.) Now on the konsole type "adsl-setup" to setup your account 4.) Now to connect type "adsl-connect" and bingo open up firefox and enjoy !!!!!! -- To Love The Penguin(aka TUX) You Need To Be As Faithful As A Puppy

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Setting up pacenet internet on ubuntu
by Philip Tellis 08 May '06

08 May '06

Hi, Has anyone succeeded in setting up pacenet internet on ubuntu or fedora? A friend has pacenet set up on windows and she needs it set up on linux. She's not too familiar with the setup on windows or how to set it up on linux, but if anyone has ideas, I could explain it to her. This is in Andheri East if it helps. Philip -- It would seem that evil retreats when forcibly confronted. -- Yarnek of Excalbia, "The Savage Curtain", stardate 5906.5

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 37, Issue 14
by अिनकॆत (Aniket) 08 May '06

08 May '06

>The PCQ Linux 2006 :-P linux distro has a version of 'wine' that runs >windows softwares directly from the fat32 partition instead of running >them within linux. > > >The advantage is that all the windows system files are available in the >windows folder. > >So if the user is using a dual boot system then she can get wine setup >to run the pacenet dialler on the mounted partition in linux. Never >tried it though. If it works, the same dialer and account can be used in >win and lin. Well wine wont help here because Pacenet dialer uses "rasdial" command in windows in its backend. This is not available in linux as far I know. So the dialer gave some weird registry errors last time I tried in wine. The only way to get online with Pacenet in linux is to get an "@linuxuser" account and use rp-pppoe. I have been using it for more than a year and it works flawlessly. Also I wanted to know one thing...24Online client uses pppoe or what? I mean do you get a global IP address when you connect from 24Online clients or is it LAN based like Sify.

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2 virtual hosts in apache2
by Arun K. Khan 08 May '06

08 May '06

Using SuSE 10.0, Apache 2.0.54. Looked through the Apache online manual on setting up virtual hosts and created a vhosts.conf file - mostly copy/paste from a template (see listing below). I have also set up bind on my LAN to resolve both "genesis" (IN A 192.168.1.65) and "linux-install" (IN CNAME genesis). I restarted apache and bind daemons after changes to their respective files. http://genesis works fine and shows index.html in "/home/www/html" but ... http://linux-install shows the same index.html as above instead of the directory listing of the Linux distribution tree I have installed @ /mnt/C. I have tried replacing * with IP# but same result. Defining "linux-install" as A record - same result. Any ideas/suggestions on could be missing in my setup? ================== begin vhosts.conf ================== NameVirtualHost *:80 <VirtualHost *:80> ServerName genesis.silverarc.biz ServerAdmin root@localhost DocumentRoot /home/www/html/ ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/genesis-error_log CustomLog /var/log/apache2/genesis-access_log combined HostnameLookups Off UseCanonicalName Off ServerSignature On <Directory "/home/www/html/"> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> </VirtualHost> <VirtualHost *:80> ServerName linux-install.silverarc.biz ServerAdmin root@localhost DocumentRoot /mnt/C ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/linux-install-error_log CustomLog /var/log/apache2/linux-install-access_log combined HostnameLookups Off UseCanonicalName Off ServerSignature On <Directory "/mnt/C"> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> </VirtualHost> ================== end vhosts.conf ================== Thanks. -- Arun Khan Linux is like a wigwam - no gates, no windows, apache inside

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[off-topic]Openings - Riyadh
by mifthas haris 08 May '06

08 May '06

Hi We have a requirement for 3 exceptional candidates with the following qualification/skill sets. 1. MS/M Tech degree In Mechanical Engineering (Fluid Mechanics and Thermal Science) (2 nos.) 2. Programmers (C, C++ and fortran) (2 nos.) Compensation based on experience and skill. The positions available are in Riyadh, at a regional operation centre (ROC) viz., satellite earth station. Those interested may send their CV to mifthas(a)gulfxpert.com, not to the list. regards Mifthas Haris <mifthas(a)gulfxpert.com>

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Setting up pacenet internet on ubuntu
by Chirag Wazir 08 May '06

08 May '06

On 8 May 2006, Philip Tellis wrote: > ... > 6. solution: download on windows and copy to linux > 7. problem: linux cannot read NTFS > ... One possible solution to this part of the problem would be to go the other way - you could try a Windows program to write to Linux: * Explore2fs (http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm) * Ext2 Installable File System for Windows (http://www.fs-driver.org) Chirag Wazir http://chirag.freeshell.org

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[OT] Wah MTNL wah ILUG-BOM
by ronbillypop＠yahoo.co.uk 08 May '06

08 May '06

Hello all, This is one example to show that MTNL has improved its CC and how this list helped me in solving a problem. Today I was at a client's place where I was installing a second hand pc (W 98) The pc had a usb port only so the driver was loaded but come what may, no sites would open as dns would not resolve. The client uses a voip box independently connected to the adsl's etherner port. Acording to the client the net was running till the old pc conked off a few months ago. So I reinsatlled the drivers, tried everything possible to get the usb net working. The ethernet side was working as he could make international calls. Finally after more than a hour, I called up mtnl's CC. He asked me to check various settings till we came to WAN settings. There I was surprised to see the connection type was 'bridged'. I asked the CC if it should be PPPoE and he agreed. The user_name/passwd was added and the net was up and running. But now the voip stopped working. >From this list I had read about bridging and using pppoe in the comp. itself. So the raspppoe drivers were downloaded and installed. The adsl was again set to bridged mode and the 'raspppoe' command was run. It searched for available servers and I selected the first one and created a dialup connection. The user_name and passwd were added and now the net as well as voip box is usable. The NDIS patch too was downloaded to enable smooth operation in 98. All this was possible thanks to this list and its informative discussions. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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[OT][Job][Commercial] Technology Solution Analyst- Junior & Senior
by Saugata C 07 May '06

07 May '06

[OT][Job][Commercial] Technology Solution Analyst- Junior & Senior NatureSoft Pvt.Ltd. is presently looking for bright & intuitive "Solution Analyst". Mandatory Requirement: 1. Excellent written and spoken English communication. 2. Good academic track record till (10+2+4). 3. Good knowledge in any 2 programming languages. 4. Good knowledge in IT security and latest news of software industry around the world. 5. Expert in using "Google" search facility. 6. Ready for relocation in Chennai (India) and Singapore. 7. Artistic sense in work. Nice to have: 1. Public speaker on "open source & free software", 2. Coordinator of any LUG in India or abroad. 3. Extensive hands-on around Linux (Mainly) and XP. 4. Proved hacking (Ethical) track record. 5. Active contributor to any open source project in last 2-3 years. 6. Contributor to any journal on any specific technology (or HOWTO) in last 1-2 years. 7. Knowledge about security, forensics, CMS [ezPublish], ERP [Compiere] are added points, 8. Certification like LPI, Oracle, etc. are added advantage. 9. TOEFL, IELTS score if any. Roles and Responsibility: 1. Requirement elicitation & drafting the Technical Solution Specification. 2. Research on possible alternative solution(s). 3. Estimation. 4. Feasibility Study. 5. Demonstration of working system. Available Posts: 1. 4-6 years Experience - Solution Analyst 2. 0-1 year, freshers, Junior Solution Analyst. Please directly contact within 15th May 2006: Mr. Rajesh P. Rao. Head of Human Capital Management. NatureSoft Pvt. Ltd. Phone: +91 44 2461 7195 Mobile: +91 9841045859 Email: [1]rajeshrao_p(a)naturesoft.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- NatureSoft's Company profile and customer base: [2]<http://www.nature-soft.com/> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- References 1. mailto:rajeshrao_p@naturesoft.net 2. http://www.nature-soft.com/

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FOSS Documentary on BBC World
by Francis 07 May '06

07 May '06

Hey All , I think many of us would be intrusted in watching this Documentary on BBC world **The Code Breakers** Microsoft has dominated the world of computing for many years, with its heavily guarded 'code' being beyond reach to many in the developing nations. In some of the poorest countries the cost of upgrading an operating system to keep up with the rest o fthe world amounts to a year's wages, and there are few legitimate options. In Thailand for example, 95 percent of software on computers is pirated. The poorest countries are now beginning to use free or open source software (FOSS), a software that parallels many of Microsoft's programmes but with the major difference being that they are distributed free of charge and can be altered by computer programmers who are allowed unfettered access to the 'source code'. In this two-part documentary, Code Breakers includes stories and interviews from around the world where FOSS is making an impact, from disaster management in Sri Lanka to tortoise breeding programmes in the Galapagos. Thursday 11th May at 0100 Repeated: Thursday 11th May at 1500; Saturday 13th May at 0100^; Monday 15th May at 0700# & 1300 Francis Pereira

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[OT] Unlimited broadband
by Satish Alwani 07 May '06

07 May '06

I cant see any unlimited broadband usage plans by mtnl. is there some kind of hidden plan? or are you guys referring to 590NU ?

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Kernel compilation with grub.
by ronbillypop＠yahoo.co.uk 07 May '06

07 May '06

Hello All, I just compiled the latest kernel 2.6.16.11 from source and its created a vmlinuz-2.6.16.11 file along with a link vmlinux in the /boot folder. Since 'make bzImage' only creates a kernel image, the 'make install' was used finally to get it into the boot folder for grub. In grub's menu.lst, I configured the kernel as /boot/vmlinuz and root=/dev/hdan where n is my partition and its the same entry as in my existing kernel entry. The image entry is #shed as there was no img created. When I boot into the new kernel, after a series of initial text, it gives a kernel panic at the root= entry. Its the same as before so why can't it mount the VFS on that partition? It cannot recognise hdan. (n is a number) Any clues? Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 37, Issue 12
by अिनकॆत (Aniket) 07 May '06

07 May '06

I am from same area. I have setup my pacenet connection in fedora. They use pppoe. You have to call them up and tell them that you want to use linux. They will give a new username like "yourusername@linuxuser" Then you can login using Rp-PPPOE from the new ID. BTW Ubuntu has pppoe builtin I think , so once you get your new usename just issue command "pppoeconf" as root and it guides you through a wizard. I was never able to connect from Ubuntu though as it kept on giving errors regarding maximum MTU/MRU. I didnt try later in Ubuntu but I think an MTU of 1412 will do it. -- The Future is Open...The Future is LINUX

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Need Linux Server
by neel s Gurjar 06 May '06

06 May '06

Hi I work in public charitable trust. We need some space on linux server to host our website. For this to whome I should contact ? Please reply Neel

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How to make own Linux Sever ?
by neel s Gurjar 06 May '06

06 May '06

hi How can I make our own linux server to host our website ? What will be the administrative & technical procedure ? Please Help Neelesh

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[OT] Hosting a Web server with MTNL Triband connection
by Antriksh Bajaj 05 May '06

05 May '06

Hi, I have an MTNL Triband connection (DSL 590 NU) with a D-Link 502T ADSL Router. I want to host a web server on my PC. I am using Apache as the web server software. The index page loads without any problem with the loopback address(127.0.0 1) and the local address assigned by the router(192.168.1.2). But when I try to access the index page with the actual IP address (59.176.x x) it shows up the Router's configuration page but not the index page. I have also tried doing the Port Forwarding or setting up a Virtual Server for port no. 80 but still it doesn't works. The router uses DHCP for assigning IP addresses and theseare the ATM settings: PVC - Pvc0 VPI - 0 VCI - 32 Virtual Circuit - Enabled WAN Setting - PPPoE/PPPoA Any help or clues ? Regards, Antriksh

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[OT] Unlimited broadband
by Dinesh Joshi 04 May '06

04 May '06

Hi, It seems that BSNL has launched an unlimited 256Kbps connection(http://bsnl.co.in/newsdetailed.php?news_id=296). The cost is 900 bucks a month and it includes a landline at zero rental. MTNL has also launched its version of unlimited 256Kbps connection at 1399 bucks a month. Unlimited connection mean no caps on data or time and an always on connection. Now why are the Mumbai subscribers being left behind? Hopefully they should be launching an unlimited scheme soon. Anyway, the reason for this post is that I see many people using MTNL Triband connections. I was wondering if they could give me some heads up on the quality of Triband. I have heard that their upside is that they good speeds & uptime but their down side is pathetic customer care. Is that correct? On a 256K connection do you guys get constant 30-32KBps speeds or do they drop? Is anyone using Airtel DSL? They have a similar scheme and are probably launching in our area in about a month or so. But I've seen that the general opinion about airtel is that they have good CC & availability but bad speeds. For me, availability, speeds matter a lot. CC comes later but I surely dont want to run to the Prabhadevi exchange everytime something goes wrong with my connection / router. I simply dont have the time or inclination to visit their exchanges. What say you guys? Any good / bad experiences? Tips? Please let me know. -- Dinesh A. Joshi

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[OT] ISO/IEC makes ODF an international standard
by Arun K. Khan 04 May '06

04 May '06

Quote from link below: "The OASIS OpenDocument format (ODF), which has made major inroads into worldwide government and education vertical markets in the last 12 months, was ratified May 2 as international file format standard ISO/IEC 26300 by two respected standards groups." http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8184331228.html -- Arun Khan (knura at yahoo dot com) This life is a test. It is only a test. Had this been an actual life, you would have received further instructions as to what to do and where to go.

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Re:[OT] Unlimited broadband
by Roshan 04 May '06

04 May '06

Oh, I forgot to mention this! They also give you a free email account (4 MB). The interface of this is pretty simple, clean and soothing. It took two weeks for TRIBAND to be activated for me , after registration. I have been using since October 2005, and its really good. Installation charges are 500 - one time installment (for router) 300 - DSL testing and installation (in the first month's bill). One the LINE is ready for TRIBAND, they call up and inform that they are testing for ADSL line, and then send a person who would get along the ADSL router and configure the internet! __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. http://in.answers.yahoo.com

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Re:[OT] Unlimited broadband
by Roshan 03 May '06

03 May '06

> Hi, > Anyway, the reason for this post is that I see many > people using MTNL > Triband connections. I was wondering if they could > give me some heads > up on the quality of Triband. I have heard that > their upside is that > they good speeds & uptime but their down side is > pathetic customer > care. Is that correct? On a 256K connection do you > guys get constant > 30-32KBps speeds or do they drop? The quality of triband is good! The uptime is "virtually" 24 hours/7 days a week/ 365 days a year. I get speeds of 25 KB/sec - 30 KB/sec most of the times. For a few downloads, at times, it runs down to 16 KB/sec. >What say you guys? Any good / bad experiences? Tips? > Please let me know. I have heard of their customer service as "bad" and claims are made that they have absolutely "NO knowledge" about GNU/Linux! That is true! But I have heard of bad experiences of triband users from the western suburbs of Mumbai (Khar, Santacruz; for example) But I suppose, it shouldn't be difficult to configure the LAN card in GNU/Linux or leave it to DHCP! In my experience of customer service, I faced a problem once of not being able to open any website due to a faulty PVC connection, it was solved pretty systematcially over 1504. I was using Firefox to do the configurations, and to my suprise, the lady on the other side of the phone, knew what "Firefox" is! (wow!). This makes me think, for a while, they not dumb as one might think! Cm'on ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. http://in.answers.yahoo.com

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RHCE papers leaking..
by Mrugesh Karnik 03 May '06

03 May '06

Hi, I am a member of a certain Yahoo Group called LinuxVadapav. (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LinuxVadapav/). Yesterday (or maybe the day before), one of the members posted the entire RHCE examination paper to the group. Take a look at this: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linuxvadapav/message/1369 This kind of activity is very damaging. This is not just an issue of someone posting the paper on the internet, but I know of 'institutes' where students are given the paper to study before they give the exam. This degrades the value of the certificate and should be stopped. I hope people on this list take notice of this. I wonder if any Red Hat people are around. -- ---------------------------------------- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net ----------------------------------------

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extended desktop
by Amit Karpe 03 May '06

03 May '06

Hi , My friend have some problem with "extended desktop" . ___ I have a laptop with 915g express chipset. I have enbled dual head using system-config-display Dual head is woking but second secreen is clone of first. even after enbaling xinerama and disabling clone it is still showing clone on sencond monitor. I have changed the resolution of second screen(800x600) by editing xorg.conf. But it still showing exact clone of first moniter (1024x768). I have fresh intalled fc5. ___ thanks -- Amit. ______________________________________________________ param vaibhavam netum etat swaraashtram samrthaa bhavatwaashishaa tebhrusham || Bharat Maata Ki Jay ||

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[OT]One CPU two Monitors, two keyboard-mouse
by Rajkumar Adsule 03 May '06

03 May '06

Hi luggers, I have a small space and wants to add more numbers of pc's. "One CPU and two monitors/keyboard/mouse will solve my problem" but don't know what this system is called is? and also availability and price? Anybody know this ? Thanx in advance. regards -- Rajkumar Adsule (RHCT) Mobile: 92242 53640

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3D Rendering Drivers.
by ronbillypop＠yahoo.co.uk 02 May '06

02 May '06

Hello All, At the linux meet at HBCSE Rajeev had given a very nice demo of the new display drivers of linux that are well suited for 3D rendering. One application demonstrated was a 3D file browser that works like a walk through into a room with files and folders shaped like 3D objects. This type of 3D walk through has tremendous potential for corporate films and demos. Future operating manuals for electronic equipment could also be in 3D form. One important potential for this is in the shopping mall industry. Instead of visitng a crowded mall, getting trolleys entangled and walking for a few hours, an exact replica of the mall can be made available to the customers in the form of a CD or DVD depending on the content size. The mall walk through will have features like virtually removing the product from its shelf and turning it around to examine it. A more advanced feature may also allow the virtual shopper to open the jars or boxes and see the actual content inside, something the mall will not allow otherwise. The software can be made available as a direct installation or to make it platform independent and live, it can be made into a live linux distro that does not do anything except detect minimum hw like kb, mouse, usb and concentrates fully on providing the maxiimum video and sound drivers and the actual application that will run live. No desktop or any normal os features or services or packages. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Switch an email account to Yahoo! Mail, you could win FIFA World Cup tickets. http://uk.mail.yahoo.com

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Help on SoundCard Detection on RHL 9.2
by Gòþï 02 May '06

02 May '06

Hi ! I have just installed Red Hat Linux 9.2 . i have a problem with Sound Card Detection. When i click on System Settings > Sound Card Detection , it says "NO Sound Cards were Detected" i have an Intel 865 MB with on board Sound. Please Advice -- Thanks , GK -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you aim to fly, then don't hang around with chickens. Why? Because chickens can't fly. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://spaces.msn.com/gopimumbai/

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GLUG NITH: some help & advice
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 02 May '06

02 May '06

Hi, The GNU/Linux Users Group of National Institute of Technology, Hamirpur is now accessible at http://www.glug-nith.org/. It is still early days and a lot of things are left to be done. One thing we have not yet put is a copyright notice. Since we have taken a few sentences here and there from Wikipedia and http://www.gnu.org/, would that be an infringement of copyright? Or do we need to give Wikipedia's name in the credit and mention that they hold the rights. Secondly, will it be ok to distribute RHEL ISOs on the site? It is our understanding that since Linux is GPL'ed it should not be a problem, although Redhat's support would not be available. Are we correct? Bye, Debarshi

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[OT] Where can I get compressed air canisters?
by Arun K. Khan 01 May '06

01 May '06

Pls. excuse this way off OT question. I realize there are quite a few HW geeks in this list. If you know of a place in Mumbai that sells compressed air canisters (to clean computers and such) please let me know. The other day I enquired at some of the stores at Lam. Rd. and none of them could tell where such a thing is available. TIA -- Arun Khan Linux is like a wigwam - no gates, no windows, apache inside

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Re: Port numbers bound in Redhat Linux 9.0
by Roshan 01 May '06

01 May '06

> Umm...shouldn't that be 4000? Servers are generally > created on a fixed > port. Thats why they are called servers... Ah, I had tried this earlier, and had made a check, with netstat -a, command to find out whether this was available. But, then, it did not create a server. Tried, this today again, and now it does, create a server on port 4000, but still takes around 7-8 minutes. > Umm...isn't that kinda obvious. If you start it at > port 0, it will take > a long time to determine a free port. The reason, I used port 0 is because, I could get the server started on 4000 and Redhat did not make it visible to me whether it had bound some application to that port. Port 0 ultimately, gave a choice to the OS to find out port for me :) > And eewwww...you should've mentioned that you're > doing this in Java... I thought, Java was preferred for networking programming and assumed, this would be true atleast for the years to come by. Is it true? > I dont think you need to do it in Java but you never > mentioned which > language you were using. So I assumed C. Ah, for the moment, I don't think, I would be doing it in C, atleast till I am sure, I can do it. > Anyway, try googling the next time. This is the > right way to build a > client / server: I do google, a lot more, but solutions seem to be passive, which does seem to help all the time. At these times, I post to the list! __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com

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