Linuxers November 2002

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Linux Lunacy at Arnala Beach resort.
by Mitul Limbani 09 Dec '02

09 Dec '02

GNU/Linux Lunacy at Arnala Beach Resort. Coming December 22nd we plan to have a fun fill trip along with a lot of geek speakers and tons of linuxers participate wociferously in debates .... Lay back in the pool and bask in a shade of cocunt tree with a glass of ...... in ur hand at the arnala beach resort. Registrations close on December 10th, for registration go here. http://mlasia.mine.nu/ilug/ For Queries contact : Mitul : 9820332422 Trevor : 9820349221 Dinesh : 9821311906 Cost for the same of Rs. 225/ inclusive of travel and food, to be sent to the address provide on the registration form. REGISTRATION WILL BE CONFIRMED ONLY AFTER RECIEVING THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT. Best Regards, Mitul Limbani CTO, Enterux Solutions (http://www.enterux.com/) P.S: The above details are as confirmed to me by Trevor

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relay deny to authenticated users
by mails＠munshi.dyndns.org 04 Dec '02

04 Dec '02

Hi, I just realized that uu.net (appear so me to be an ISP) has many spamers are their clients. I am wondering what is the solution to this. If a spammer will signup for a account from uu.net then he can authenticate himself and send spams to many people. How can uu.net stop this? It appears to me that uu.net is listed as a spaming domain (sorry for this slang language but I do not have the proper term for this) and mails from this domain are not accepted if we disable the mail delivery from blacklisted domains. How can I as a sysadmin make sure that uu.net spams are not welcomed but genuine users from uu.net are no problems. Thanks in advance. Bye.

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Poll for location
by Amish K. Munshi 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hi, I have created a poll for the preffered location of meetings. Please visit http://munshi.dyndns.org/~amish/polls/ and post your poll. Thanks. Bye.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Software license tied to human rights
by Kiran Nadgir 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

> Message: 8 > From: Bhargav Bhatt <bhargav.bhatt(a)columbia.edu> > Organization: Columbia University > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Group urges limits on open source > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 03:17:31 -0500 > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > Kiran Nadgir wrote: > > <nothing new> ---8<--- Yes yes nothing new.....nice to know that luggers are more interested in showing off their intelligence (egos actually) on the way msgs are posted rather than on the msg. Which gets me to ask myself a question....do these great intelligent people really care about GNU/Linux and this mailing list or do they care more about showing off their egos here. Yes i could've posted a link to the article instead of cutting and pasting the whole thing. BUT i pasted it because last time i had posted some link i had got a reply that the site required a passwd etc. So just to make sure no one faces any problems i pasted the WHOLE article. This takes me to another topic, Major problems in the world exist because people don't percieve things in the same way. Everyone has their own point of view about things. Even i have one but most of the times i don't let my EGO blurr the actual view. So yes i agree that i have posted mails with an unacceptable "signal to noise ratio" and i have changed that. But sometimes rather than following the HERD and coming up with such comments on someone you should try and think about all the possible reasons for a person to do something. And in this case i don't think i have done anything wrong . But as they say advice is something the wise don't give and the fools don't take ( i know people will reply to this specific statement of mine (thats my perception :) ) Yes i have realized that my mail signatures were unncessarily HUGE and have reduced it. But if someone still wants me to teach netiqutte this is what i would have to say to that person. @#!@#!#! > Kiran, > =09Whats the point of just copying and pasting from websites and filling=20 > up our mailboxes? You would be far better off providing a short=20 > paragraph and a URL for the article.=20 ---8<--- Yes my dear friend i could've been better off..but i did this with a reason. and i really don't care what you have to say. > =09Also, by not making a mention of your source, you are violating the=20 > copyright rights of cnet.com. Quoting their website, "Re-use of any of=20 > CNET's editorial content and graphics online for any purpose is=20 > strictly prohibited. The materials from CNET's sites are available for=20 > informational and noncommercial uses offline only, provided the content=20 > and/or graphics are not modified in any way, all copyright and other=20 > notices on any copy are retained, and permission is granted by CNET.".=20 > =09Please don't provide illegal(assumiing you have not obtained explicit=20 > permission from the source) documents on the mailing list and make us a=20 > part of the *crime*. > =09Also, the disclaimer attached to the email states that "This message=20 > (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended=20 > for a specific individual and purpose". Does that not make your email=20 > totally useless for any mailing list with more than one member. It=20 > means that this email was meant only for the person who uses the=20 > address linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in, and that all the rest of us=20 > getting this message should "delete this message". Also the disclaimer=20 > makes linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in, or whoever the list admin is, a=20 > criminal because the disclaimer also states that "copying, or=20 > distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it,=20 > is strictly prohibited." ----8<---- <NOTHING NEW> I have already mentioned about this one my dear friend. If you don't want me on the list u can unsubscribe me anytime ......I am using my corp id because its convinient AND AGAIN FOR YOUR CONVINIENCE....THE GUIDELINES OF THIS LIST DON'T TALK ANYTHING ABOUT DISCLAIMERS. SO either make sure the guidelines are changed or just stop displaying your intelligence on this topic. > > For those who want to read the article in its original form, its=20 > available at the following link > > http://news.com.com/2100-1001-975578.html?tag=3Dfd_top > -----8<---- Thanks for the link ....:) that was nice. > Bhargav Bhatt, > Department of Applied Physics and Applied Mathematics, > Columbia University. > -- > "If English was commutative, we could all talk like Yoda." - Anonymous. > > > --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 01:36:25 -0800 (PST) From: kishor bhagwat <aaaaarrrgghhh(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Software license tied to human rights To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > --- Kiran Nadgir <kirann(a)mahindrabt.com> > wrote:(nah..pasted) ---8<--- yes yes i pasted is that such a BIG problem ??? > err..some ppl have already gently suggested some good > things abt ur postings and mail sigs etc.. -----8<---- so whas u gonna try next my dear friend ??? I have a suggestion for LUG. The homepage should say. Welcome to GNU/LUG EGOISTS Users Group of Mumbai! because thats what is going on in this list most of the times....everyone has such a big EGO...cant u ppl for once let things be and just FOCUS on the message rather than the sender of the message. There are a lot of constructive stuff to be done rather than this EGO trips that keep happening. What are you guys trying to prove to each other. This mailing list is like the GOVERNMENT OF INDIA....most of the times rather than FOCUSSING on the issue...the FOCUS is on who created the issue...how dare he create the issue...why didnt he do it this way..this is how its to be done.....O CMONN...gimme a break....come out of this if u really want to do something for GNU/LINUX....don't worry so much about showing off ur intelligence through comments on how ppl are doing things......i believe all u ppl must be great techies..and thats what u shud be doing....focussing on what u r supposed to do.... and if anyone else has any problems with me cut pasting stuff or my mails...i'd want to be unsubsribed from this list. Thanks for teaching me a few things on netiqutte...but i guess a lot of people here have a lot to learn.... What they need to learn is understood i hope.... > what kinda ppl are MBT hiring nowadays? -----8<--- Atleast not the stupid kind like you. And listen kishor...u better not get personal on this one.....Is this what the entire LUG is all about... MUD slinging matches.....welll .....i hope u never have a Linux-Bombay...with such people....because it'll be more of an EGO Flashing trip than anything else.....I thought the lug had people who were above average in intelligence..but what i see is bunch of kiddos..fighting with each other. I hope this changes someday....And as for u kishor....u sound like u r constipated with that id of urs.....why dont u try some Isabgol... :) > > regds, > aaaaarrrgghhh > -----8<---- Freedom - Hehhehehehheehee. > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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meeting in KReSIT on 8th
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hi all, We can have a LUG meet at KReSIT, IIT Bombay on the 8th of Dec if all are interested. We have a choice between a classroom that can seat 50 people and the audi that can seat 200. I have temporarily booked both. Gods of the list, please confirm the meet, so that I can also announce on the IITB newsgroups. Is Sunday 4pm fine? Can't expect too many people from IIT, since most have left for home for the winter vacation. Jaju and Chetan please note, I won't be present on 8th. We need to ensure ITA takes care of the tea arrangements. I'll also try to see if I can get more details about the new "Affordable Computing Lab" that Prof. Phatak is planning in the dept. Agenda for the meet? Sameer. -- MTech Student, Reconfigurable Computing Lab, KReSIT, IIT-Bombay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You will be a winner today. Pick a fight with a four-year-old.

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is India IT Club Newsletter useful for us?
by Gurpreet Singh 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

hi ppl i intended to start a discussion on whether posting on the newsletter at http://www.geocities.com/tonysingh4u/Ind_IT_Club_Nletter.doc cud be useful for us?? plz go thru it ppl and give ur views..... regards Gurpreet ________________________________________________________________ NIIT supports World Computer Literacy Day on 2nd December. Enroll for NIIT SWIFT Jyoti till 2nd December for only Rs. 749 and get free Indian Languages Office software worth Rs. 2500. For details contact your nearest NIIT centre, SWIFT Point or click here http://swift.rediff.com/ Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to install a distro from the hard-disk
by sameer shinde 01 Dec '02

01 Dec '02

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Redhat 8 CD's
by John Clegg 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

Hi I was wondering if you can tell me if there is anyone selling Redhat 8 installation CD's here in mumbai Thanks John Clegg Chief Technology Officier Baazee.com http://www.baazee.com <http://www.baazee.com/>

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Re: Commercial ILUG...
by Natarajan V 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

Hi, Sorry for the late reply, i was not available to read my mails and answer them over the week. Well, I think I sparked off an unnecessary argument over "Commercialisation". Am with Trover. Generally LUGs are supposed be there, so that we can SHARE knowldge. What I meant by Commercial interests in some LUGs is that, some of them are promoted and funded/aided by commercial organizations, with an optional internal MOTO. This is what I meant by "commercial LUG", and not charging for help mails.. Hey come on... even M$ gives FREE help over newsgroups...!!!!! (surprising, but it does give, SOMETIMES). Of course, if any one wants to go in person and help them, or have their own interests, in answering a question, they can do it in a commercial way..... Cheers Natarajan ________________________________________________________________ NIIT supports World Computer Literacy Day on 2nd December. Enroll for NIIT SWIFT Jyoti till 2nd December for only Rs. 749 and get free Indian Languages Office software worth Rs. 2500. For details contact your nearest NIIT centre, SWIFT Point or click here http://swift.rediff.com/

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] is India IT Club Newsletter useful for us?
by Gurpreet Singh 30 Nov '02

30 Nov '02

On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 Vinayak Hegde wrote : >Gurpreet Singh wrote: > >>hi ppl >>i intended to start a discussion on whether posting on the >>newsletter at >>http://www.geocities.com/tonysingh4u/Ind_IT_Club_Nletter.doc cud >>be useful for us?? plz go thru it ppl and give ur views..... > >I did go through the article and it may be a good vehicle to >propagate the Free S/W philosophy. >Let me know if you need someone to write a article. I will >happily volunteer to do so. [snip] thats gr8... >Because awareness is the key in this campaign, we should make use >of whatever resources are available. [snip] anymore ppl who wud like to spread some awareness thru?? gurpreet > >--> Vinayak Hegde > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > ________________________________________________________________ NIIT supports World Computer Literacy Day on 2nd December. Enroll for NIIT SWIFT Jyoti till 2nd December for only Rs. 749 and get free Indian Languages Office software worth Rs. 2500. For details contact your nearest NIIT centre, SWIFT Point or click here http://swift.rediff.com/ Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Linuxers November 2002