Hi,
Natrajan's information regarding ILUG Chennai sent a lot of my cells racing.
I agree that free support is a good thing. But then what about the people
whom we support that work for commercial organizations?
Lets take a hypothetical case:
Mr. A works for ABC Corp. who has investments in Linux in terms of
development, support and even customers. Now Mr. A is a fresher and doesn't
know GNU/Linux much... a Perl based project comes up, and then he runs
helter skelter for help.
Mr. Cool is cool with GNU/Linux and yes he knows Perl! Mr. Cool helps Mr. A
out with difficulties... and ABC Corp doles the project out... because Mr. A
completed it on time.
Mr. A agined... ABC Corp. gained... what did Mr. Cool gain? Now I am not
cool with that.
Maybe I won't go with what ILUG Chennai does... but yes maybe we can charge
support requests from commerical organisations. (That will help me tolerate
those irritating signatures).
Charging will also mean one more thing... people will look carefully at the
list archives before winging something in.
Regards,
-ah
>>Hello,
>>I just installed PCQ Redhat 7.1. on my new P4 1.5 on 10gb hdd with =
>>win2000 insstalled on the 40gb.
>>i am able 2 run both win200 and linux with dual booting=20
>>my prob is that in haste i forgot to configure the vga card, i have asus =
>>v3005 32mb, this was not shown in the list. i learnt from a friend that =
>>i could've used sis 300 (is it in the list shown by redhat??). =20
>>now i am not able 2 startx.
>>my question is how do i configure X windows to take the correct drivers =
>>for with re-installing linux all over again.
>>my vga card is agp asus v3005 32mb ram
>>monitor is lg studioworks 563N
>>please help! =20
>>nilesh
Hi Nilesh!
I have exactly the same problem!!!!!!!Have you the solution??
I have RHL 7.3.
My monitor is proview 772
Thank you at advance.
Bentzy Sagiv
Vidyatel Ltd.
bentzy(a)vidyatel.com
hello
this is regarding the talks on the "linux lunacy" trip to be held
on the 22nd of dec.
can a something be arranged in terms of debian??
a talk may be that wud make people get over the fear of those 7
big CDs , pick them up and start installing. Maybe something that
says why debian is a better choice(i've just heard people saying
this, no flames plz :D)..
and if can also include a quick installation touches, it'd be
great.
any volunteers??
regards
Gurpreet
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hello
this is regarding the talks on the "linux lunacy" trip to be held
on the 22nd of dec.
can a something be arranged in terms of debian??
a talk may be that wud make people get over the fear of those 7
big CDs , pick them up and start installing. Maybe something that
says why debian is a better choice(i've just heard people saying
this, no flames plz :D)..
and if can also include a quick installation touches, it'd be
great.
any volunteers??
regards
Gurpreet
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hello luggerz
look at this
http://www.geocities.com/tonysingh4u/Ind_IT_Club_Nletter.doc
i came across this newsletter which comes from the Tokyo office of
India Trade Promotion Organization(the organization which runs the
pragati maidan in delhi, it also has an export promotion deptt).
The compiler of this newsletter Mr. N.K. Sehgal is a close family
friend of ours.
I am not too sure about the audience of this newsletter but it
must be going to the big export houses related to s/w exports in
japan and india, and also to a few more people...
now, i think i can convince mr sehgal to bail out some space for
our GNU cause on his newsletter. but this comes at a later
stage.
*******************************************************************
****i would like some of u experienced people to analyze the
newsletter and try to determine if it can be a useful platform for
us.*******
****************************************************************
if u guys say that this shud be done, i'll **try** my part of
convincing him.
so go on people, the newsletter is up at
http://www.geocities.com/tonysingh4u/Ind_IT_Club_Nletter.doc
(now this is in M$ word format, dont flame me for that, i didnt
make it :D)
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The U.S. Defense Department should think twice before embracing open-source
software, a trade association is advising.
The Initiative for Software Choice, which counts Microsoft, Cisco Systems
and Intel among its backers, said in comments filed Tuesday that the
department should "avoid crafting needless and potentially detrimental IT
policy to promote the use" of open-source software. "Open source" means
every software developer can view the source code for software, modify it,
and use it for free.
The initiative, which launched in May and is chaired by a group called
CompTIA, an organization that has close ties to Microsoft, is worried about
a recent report that concluded the Defense Department relies on open-source
software and recommended its further adoption.
Written by defense contractor MITRE, the report said that free and
open-source software "plays a more critical role in the (Defense Department)
than has been generally recognized" and endorsed it as a viable alternative
to proprietary Microsoft products.
This week, the Initiative for Software Choice counterattacked, telling the
Defense Information Systems Agency that the Pentagon should not "openly
promote the use" of open-source software, arguing that proprietary products
are not inherently less secure.
The group also assailed the General Public License (GPL), which generally
permits programmers to incorporate code released under the GPL as long as
they make their own source code available.
"While the law on this matter remains untested, it makes sense for companies
to be highly risk-averse in this area, striking a more defensive posture
when confronted with software development that may implicate GPL code or
similar coding environments," the initiative said. "Commercial and hybrid
software developers generally do not want to risk losing their investment."
Proprietary software companies such as Microsoft have labeled open-source
software as a serious threat and have begun to oppose its use by
governments. At the same time, however, nations such as France and Germany
have begun to encourage open-source software to limit their dependence on
proprietary vendors and to stimulate local software development.
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Hello folks,
chk out this link if you use a Winbox
http://drorshalev.brinkster.net/dev/
Those without a winbox shld try this link on their friends'
machines!
Try some of the stuff under Free Style, it gives a good
demo of how unsafe you are in the wild world of the
Internet!
regds,
aaaaarrrgghhh
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Move over, free software. Step aside, today's open-source licenses.
Software distributed under an "enhanced source" license released this week
will be legally prohibited from censoring or spying on users.
Crafted by Hacktivismo, a hacking group organized by the Cult of the Dead
Cow, the Hacktivismo enhanced-source software license agreement says that
anyone using code released under it must respect privacy, free expression,
due process and other human rights.
HESSLA comes as concern is growing over governments using technology such as
blocking software to restrict what their citizens can do or say online. In
September, House Republicans released a report titled "Tear Down This
Firewall," and this week, Amnesty International published a report
highlighting China's crackdown on Internet use.
"The Hacktivismo enhanced-source software license agreement marks the first
time technology transfer has been linked to protecting human rights," said
Oxblood Ruffin, founder of Hacktivismo. "Our clients and end-users aren't
building the firewalls to keep democracy out. They're locked inside trying
to break free."
In July, Ruffin published a manifesto that referenced the United Nations'
Universal Declaration of Human Rights and said Internet censorship is "a
serious form of organized and systematic violence against citizens, is
intended to generate confusion and xenophobia and is a reprehensible
violation of trust." Hacktivismo's license says that any government that
violates human rights is prohibited from using software released under it.
The "enhanced source" license intentionally tracks much of the language of
the well-known General Public License and borrows most of the GPL's
concepts, such as the one that says anyone incorporating code released under
the license in their program must also make the source code of their program
available. In fact, Hacktivismo recommends that programmers release their
code under both licenses.
One problem Hacktivismo might encounter is that the current license is so
broad it discourages developers from using it. For instance, it bans
governments, individuals and corporations from any "monitoring of
individuals," which might apply to popular network monitoring utilities, and
bans "filtering" of any expression, which could cover routine utilities such
as spam-filtering programs.
Another section of the license requires that the creator of any program that
uses cryptography for authentication or confidentiality must ensure that the
algorithms meet minimum security thresholds. And if any disputes arise
involving another nation, the license says, foreign governments relinquish
their right of sovereign immunity and agree to be sued in federal court in
the United States.
The license enables both Hacktivismo and its end-users to go to court if
someone tries to use the software in a malicious manner, or to introduce
harmful changes into the software. It also contains more robust language
than has previously been used to maximize enforcement against governments
around the world. The HESSLA explicitly prohibits anybody from introducing
"spyware, surveillance technology, or other undesirable code into modified
versions of HESSLA-licensed programs." Additionally, the license prohibits
any use of the software by any government that has any policy or practice of
violating human rights.
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Sameer's signature said:
> FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #5
> A: The Halls of Montezuma and the Shores of Tripoli.
> Q: Name two families whose kids won't join the Marines.
talk about posting answers before questions!!
