Linuxers September 2002

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] popularizing linux@ sangli.... CS Subjects
by Dinesh Shah 16 Sep '02

16 Sep '02

Hi Trevor, I am available for 5/6 Oct. 2002. If required any assistance from me let me know. You know that no programing stuff from me. So I don't know how will I be usefull in your seminar. But, in any case, I will be there if require. And don't pull last minute surprises. Pls plan in advance and inform me in advance. :-) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 23:30:40 -0700 (PDT) > 802.11b, bluetooth......Embedded gnu-linux, RTOS, > gnu-linux clusters........we can go on...nd on, but > after all vry1 justs wanna get out of the RUT. Think > itz from then on that they hav the capability to > work/avoid working on what they like. With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System dinesh(a)indiamail.com http://dineshah.tripod.com Mobile: 98213-11906

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Option to LILO
by WERNER K HEISENBERG 16 Sep '02

16 Sep '02

>Hi all, >how can give options to LILO at boot time? In earlier >versions, with the text version of LILO, it was very easy. schnitt--- Try These : At the Graphical Prompt, press Control+x and you should get: lilo: Enter the following. Try them one at a time, of course 1. Press Tab to see the labels assigned to your boot images 2. linux single --> to get you into maintenance mode 3. linux vga=ask --> to see the various screen modes your card supports. Try typing 'scan' here to get more options 4. linux emergency read /usr/src/linux-9.9/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt Brgds Werner _____________________________________________________________ Play the Elvis� Scratch & Win for your chance to instantly win $10,000 Cash - a 2003 Harley Davidson� Sportster� - 1 of 25,000 CD's - and more! http://r.lycos.com/r/sagel_mail_scratch_tl/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos…

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Request to hold a Seminar on Linux
by Sabarish Viswanathan 16 Sep '02

16 Sep '02

Dear Sir, We,the students of Sardar Patel College of Engineering have decided to organise a seminar/workshop on Linux as we did last year.If you could give us your tel. no. we'll be able to discuss the further details. Thank you. Your's faithfully, Balasubramanian V. SPCE ________________________________________________________________________ Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, Yahoo! TV. visit http://in.tv.yahoo.com

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LinuxInIndia#6: Penguin's Mantra, Funding On Way,LinuxBangalore2002
by Frederick Noronha 16 Sep '02

16 Sep '02

GNU _ _____ _____ http://linuxinindia.pitas.com | | (_) |_ _| |_ _| | |_ | | _ _ __ _ ___ __ | | _ __ | | _ __ __| (_) ___ | | | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / | | | '_ \ | | | '_ \ / _` | |/ _ \ | |____| | | | | |_| |> < _| |_| | | |_| |_| | | | (_| | | (_) | |______|_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\_____|_| |_|_____|_| |_|\__,_|_|\__,_| CopyLeft2002 GNU/GPL v2 OR LATER * ISSUE006 * SEPT 13, 2002 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Co-edited by Frederick Noronha and Parag Mehta <pm at linuxindia dot org> * ARCHIVES/SIGN-UP: http://www.freelists.org/archives/linuxinindia +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In this issue o Indian language solutions for GNU/Linux o Want money to help you make Free Software? Here's some... o Made-in-Delhi accounting software o Gearing up for LinuxBangalore2002 (Dec 3-5, 2002) o Development by Design conference in India o Kids play around with GNU/Linux... and the results are... o CDAC lab goes in for GNU/Linux... and lot's more. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ THE PENGUIN'S MANTRA: Efforts are on to find Indian language solutions to GNU/Linux in the subcontinent that matters. Some call Indic and other South Asian scripts the final challenge to computer vendors for full i18n support. It has taken its time in coming, the challenges are not that simple, and successes have been few and far between. Yet optimism is high now. Can this frontier be conquered early? Technical challenges are certainly not few: the X rendering model is too simple for Indic scripts (but an upcoming tutorial on the Indic Computing site will have the nitty-gritty). Input for Indian languages is an open issue. Most `keyboard solutions' available today for X are fragile and are really more work-arounds than solutions. Some say the principal problem is rendering conjuncts without proper rendering engines and properly encoded fonts. Users want to type a sequence of characters, and not concern themselves with the details of rendering. This requires fonts with appropriate tables giving the possible character sequences and the glyphs for rendering each, and an engine that knows to read the tables. What are the varied initiatives are currently on in various parts of the country. What could be the proper strategic approach? Which issues should be tackled first? See an article http://www.freelists.org/archives/linuxinindia +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SMALL MEET AT BANGALORE: A small meeting on Indianisation of computing (including GNU/Linux) is being organised at Bangalore on Sept 15-16. Contact tap2k(a)yahoo.com (Tapan Parikh) if you'd like to get into the loop and join the campaign. This is a by-invite meet, but everyone is welcome to share ideas in the ongoing search to find long-awaited solutions. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PERL MODULE FOR INDIAN LANGUAGE I/O: Thanks to M K Saravanan <mksarav(a)comp.nus.edu.sg> Perl module to handle Indian Language I/O http://acharya.iitm.ac.in/perl_enhance.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ INDIC COMPUTING: If interested in these subjects, do join the indic-computing mailing lists, and also the indlinux mailing lists. Often a lot of discussion regarding indic localisation happens on these lists. http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net http://www.indlinux.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GPL (GENERAL PUBLIC LICENCE) IN MALAYALAM: An attempt to translate the GPL into Malayalam. At present, the preamble is completed. From Mahesh T Pai. See http://in.geocities.com/paivakil/freecommunity/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ TAMIL DESKTOP IN KDE9, BETA4: Vasudevan <vasu_a(a)cyberwaveindia.com> of ILUG-Chennai notes he has "successfully configured the Tamil desktop in kde9beta4, with advice from Parbhu_Anand from cooker development, which we struggled (with) at last Linux Expo unsucessfully." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FLOSS-SARAI INITIATIVE: No money in Free/Libre Open Source Software (FLOSS)? A new initiative might help to change that for some youngsters in India. The Sarai Programme, Centre for the Study of Developing Societies, Delhi (www.sarai.net) invites applications for Support Grants to projects in the area of Free Software, Open Source Software and Social Usage of Software Sarai invites programmers (practitioners as well as students) to propose projects in the area of free and open source software applications relevant to educational, social and community needs. We are looking for original ideas, as well as proposals to localize and adapt existing software and applications to South Asian conditions. For example - Desk-tops in Hindi, Open Office and Gimp in Hindi. Lighter versions of desktops like KDE, Innovations that creatively optimises older lower configuration machines, Linux documentation in Hindi, games using local context, etc. Conditions: Applicants should be resident in India, and should have a bank account in any bank operating in India. These are support grants and grantees will be free to pursue their primary occupations, if any. Mail your project proposal, work-plan and CV to both the following addresses: <application(a)sarai.net> with a copy to <fred(a)bytesforall.org>. Please mark your subject-line 'FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) Initiative'. Also point out what you see as the relevance of your work, and how you plan to share the resultant software once finalised. Enquires: dak(a)sarai.net Last date for submission: October 15th, 2002. Note: Proposals from teams, partnerships, collectives, faculty are welcome, so long as the grant amount is administered by a single individual, and the funds are deposited in a single bank account in the name of an individual. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FREESPEECH.ORG, COMMUNITY SITE FOR LINUXERS: Himanshu <himanshu_s(a)myrealbox.com> has something to announce: "I launched my new site, http://www.thefreespeech.org which is basically a community web site for Linuxers. Its main aim is "to initiate, collaborate and contribute" to the linux cause. The site itself, is home to the ILUG-BOM's novel "Project Resource Centre" idea, which will help ease the collaboration between students undertaking linux projects and self appointed "mentors". I guess, in the future it will also be home to dead projects, or very small projects/scripts, which have not been (or are to small to be) hosted at Sourceforge." http://www.thefreespeech.org +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DEVELOPED-IN-DELHI ACCOUNTING SOFTWARE: Sudhir Gandotra <sudhir(a)netshooter.com> announces that they've recently launched 'Kalculate' <www.kalculate.com>, a developed-in-Delhi software. It was worked on using C, GTK and PostgreSQL on the GNU/Linux platform. It promises to be the "first financial accounting package on GNU/Linux in India and the Asia-Pacific". Incidentally, the Indian 'IT' magazine in their September 2002 issue have carried the standard version of 'Kalculate'. This can be used for single-company accounting. The multi-company version, priced at Rs 10,000 (approx US$200), will be available to users of this version at Rs.3500 if they register and place their order by 31 Oct 2002, under a special promotion campaign, according to Gandotra. Rajesh Kankaria <rk(a)coralindia.com> points out that he had also worked on an accounting software developed on GNU/Linux around two years ago. But "due to poor response I didn't pursue it further", says he. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GETTING FREE SOFTWARE BOOKS TO INDIA: Systems Research Institute executive director Prof J G Krishnayya <jkrishnayya(a)yahoo.com> of Pune, who appreciates the worth of Free Software/Open Source, is keen to find ways of re-printing and distributing Free Software books in India. Contact him if you see any possibilities. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GEARING UP FOR LINUX-BANGALORE 2002: Bangalore GNU/Linux enthusiasts are to hold LB2002, a major meet on December 3/4/5 2002, J.N.Tata Auditorium, Bangalore, India. Last year's meet attracted a few thousand participants! http://linux-bangalore.org/2002/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DEVELOPMENT BY DESIGN CONF IN BANGALORE: The Second International "development by design" Conference will be held in Bangalore, India on December 1-2, 2002. The paper submission deadline has been extended to October 7, according to Leo Burd <leoburd(a)media.mit.edu> of MIT Media Lab. About dyd02: This conference seeks to establish critical dialogue towards open collaboration in sustainable technology, design and development. We invite diverse perspectives from academia, industry, nonprofit organizations, and independent innovators. You can submit a full paper, poster, video abstract or position paper online. Student projects will be shown in a design exhibition at the conference. http://www.thinkcycle.org/dyd02 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ WHAT HAPPENS WHEN UNDER-PRIVILEGED kids lay their hands on GNU/Linux? See the results at http://www.digitalequalizer.org/kids.htm Daryl Martyris <dmartyris(a)hotmail.com> argues that this experiment clearly hints that that school-age children are able to effectively and quickly learn to the basic uses of computers without any formal training. Not just that, they also used GNU/Linux-based PCs. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ INDIA'S SUPER-COMPUTING AGENCY GOES FOR GNU/LINUX (Reuters) : Aug 12 reports say India's Centre for Development of Advanced Computing, which makes supercomputers used for heavy-duty data processing, said it had decided to use open source Linux software in a high-performance computing lab. The Pune-based state agency, whose machines are used for advanced computing functions in activities such as oil exploration and weather forecasting, will use a Linux platform customised by International Business Machines. "The selection of Linux public software and its deployment by C-DAC (the centre) will provide a boost to the research activities of the scientific community in India," C-DAC and IBM said in a joint statement. Founded in 1988, C-DAC is a state-run research and development firm which has built four versions of its Param series of supercomputer machines. It also earns revenue from selling Indian regional language software and by training high-tech engineers. C-DAC's new laboratory will start operations in Bangalore later this year, the statement said. "We are using Linux only for a specific lab and have not yet decided whether to adopt it across all our applications," R.K. Arora, C-DAC executive director, told Reuters. http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-20260575- 0.html?tag=ats +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GNOWLEDGE NETWORKING AND ORGANIZING SYSTEM, GNOWSYS: Dr. Nagarjuna G. works in Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, Tata Institute of Fundamental Research as a Reader. He works in the area of Science Education, Metacognitive studies, History and Philosophy of Science, and is an advocate of Free Software for Education and Research. Currently developing an expert system for knowledge management called "GNOWSYS: Gnowledge Networking and Organizing System" developed in Python and Zope. He is the coordinator of the centre's portal site development project for science and mathematics education. Contact Nagarjuna G. <nagarjun(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FLOSS STUDY: From the ILUG-Chennai mailing list. Ravi Rao reports: Free/Libre and Open Source Software ;; Survey and Study -- FLOSS ;; Final Report http://www.infonomics.nl/FLOSS/report/Final4.htm Makes a very interesting read ... ;/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SIMPUTER, LOOKING FORWARD TO IT: More on the Simputer (the commonman's computing device, driven by GNU/Linux) from huiswerk345(a)yahoo.com, from Paul Soetmulder, Encore Technologies (S) Pte Ltd : Bad news: We only hand out limited number of SDK's (software developer kits) at this point in time, to both customers and partners. We want to stay focused on 100% success rate for all our customer projects, and we hope you appreciate this approach. Our customers and partners do. Some good news: Yes the project is moving "full steam" ahead and soon we will surprise you with reference clients, available applications and other news on a new dedicated website. Some more good news: Yes many partners have already signed up to work with us in developing solutions. Countries represented in our partner network cover Japan, Asia, Australia, Africa, India, Europe and USA. We still have some countries missing in each continent. Want to join this group of mobile computing pioneers, its only one email away. And more good news: Please note that all Encore Simputers production planned for the months August/ September time-frame have been taken up. At this moment we share to our best capability the units available among partners and customers. Our partners and customers support this as we deliver the solutions and benefits they need. The best news for Partners: Also October orders exceed production levels, although I have made reservations for "2 Encore Simputers" for next 100 pioneer partners" (in addition to 2 units for existing partners who have placed their orders) for October 15th time-frame. First come first served. Want to become pioneer partner, please email our CEO, Mr. Ravi Desiraju at ravi_desiraju(a)ncoretech.com. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ INSTALLING L.T.S: Baiju M <malayalamlinux(a)yahoo.com> informs that more details about installing LTS systems are available in GNU/Linux Utilities for Education CDROM (GLUE CD). All necessary packages are available in that CDROM. You can read the proposal by Ajith Kumar here: http://malayalamlinux.sourceforge.net/edu/proposal-by-ajith.html It gives all details about hardware costs, advantages of LTS systems etc. Says Baiju: "Now I am fully involved in Malayalam GNU/Linux Project. So that you contact Free Software User Group Kozhikode members for more details. (I CC'ed his mail to the group mailing list). You can get the latest CDROM from Rajeesh (ph:0495 355415) If you asking the the CDROM for installing in any school, FSUG will give it you without any cost. If you are from TVM you can contact me (just drom me a mail). There is another FSUG group at Kochi (I think Raghavendra Bhat, a member of that group has got that CDROM)." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GNU/LINUX COUNTER: Eighteen million guestimated GNU/Linux users; how many from India? Please fill in your details at http://counter.li.org/ If you know someone who could volunteer to push forward this counter in regional Indian states, please contact harald(a)alvestrand.no with a cc marked to rproton(a)yahoo.co.uk, pm(a)linuxindia.org and ghane(a)dotxtra.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ INTRODUCTORY COURSE: From Patrice Reimens <patrice(a)xs4all.nl>, a Dutch friend and fan of India. Check the Open Source/Free Software introductory course by Lisa Haskell for students. Very nice intro, full of useful pointers. http://mediaartprojects.org.uk/current/open_source_course/ Says he: "Lisa is now doing http://tech2.southspace.org (programme, thin) and http://tech2.southspace.net (diary, fat) in Lancaster." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DATABASE OF HACKERS: Tripta <tripta(a)sarai.net> from New Delhi points to http://orbiten.org and says: "I am not sure whether you are aware of this survey but does provide interesting perspectives. I am planning to conduct a survey/research amongst the `hackers' involved in the movement to trace and identify the pattern of the development of free software movement.... I was wondering if you could send me the list of the `open source projects' being conducted by individuals/groups/organizations...I am attempting to create a database as mentioned earlier, identify the pattern and seek for avenues of possible collaborations." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PROCURING CDs: Abhijeet More <abhijeetmore(a)rolta.net> suggests the following sources for GNU/Linux CDs: http://www.linuxplaza.org * http://www.indiainfotech.org Navin Dhanuka <navin_dhanuka(a)yahoo.com> says of IndiaInfoTech.org: "Dhiraj Thakur & Sheetal Chopra are doing a great job by serving the free software community with latest linux distros at affordable costs. I got Debian 3.0 at just Rs 50 a CD. That's real cheap and affordable as student Says Amol Hatwar <amolhatwar(a)rediffmail.com>: "I got the same at 30/- at linuxplaza.org. And yes Prahant Shah does a good job too." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GETTING STARTED WITH GNU/LINUX: Some tips from: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> who says these are good places were to start learning GNU/Linux: --> RH linux 7.2 Unleashed(Sams.net) --> Linux in 24 Hrs (Sams.net) --> www.tldp.org (Dos-Windoze-howto...to start with, the rest u can figure out what u can read up and what interests you. I havent seen any classes in Bombay that are worth it. Just stick to the books/sites and ask us when you screw up with anything.) Trevor Warren is an active member of the Mumbai (Bombay) LUG. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ MAIL FROM AUROVILLE: From just next to India's own Little France, on the east coast, the place known as Auroville someone <netadmin(a)auroville.org.in> writes in to say: "Can some one suggest an easy to use web interface that can be installed on a Linux mail server for web based mail access?? I live in Auroville, near Pondicherry and we have been running Redhat 6.2 set up by a Nexus guy with more than 800 mail boxes. There is IMP (for web based mail access) and sendmail doing the job. We wish to be independent and need some help in this regards. Any tips on SMTP authentication is welcome. Auroville is an interesting place to visit and maybe help us with our Linux setup. Adequate compensation is part of the deal :-) please respond, thanks." MEA CULPA: Mita <mita(a)auroville.org.in> from Auroville has drawn our notice to some errors in three paragraphs of the last issue of this ezine (LinuxInIndia#5). Unlike mentioned earlier, Mukund does not live at Auroville, but in London, and only visited Av during his studies at Pondicherry University. He did not work for Ximian, Inc, and hasn't worked on gtkhtml or gimp. There were other inaccuracies in the description of Mukund and Karthik Ram (an ecologist, but not connected with GNU/Linux). We apologise sincerely for any misunderstandings created. -FN +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ COMPUTER EDUCATION IN KERALA, GOING WHICH WAY?: Ajith Kumar <ajith(a)nsc.ernet.in> is disappointed with what's happening on the education front in Kerala. He comments: "Visit the site http://www.keralaeducation.org/itschool/project.htm and find out how the IT (schools project) has been sold of to contractors." Check out his alternative proposal. "In order to implement the project government certainly need to set some guidelines regarding the objectives and quality of the program. This could have been done simply by drafting a proper syllabus and insist on covering that syllabus and also specifying the number of hours each student get for theory and practicals. But what has been done is allowing few private agencies to exploit the poor students and paving way to waste precious foreign exchange by promoting the products of a Multinational Corporation." Write to Ajith for a full-text of his proposal... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ COST-EFFECTIVE SYSTEM USING GNU/LINUX: Ajith goes on to note that GNU/Linux also has software to reduce the hardware cost by using diskless PCs. Hardware cost of setting up a 10 terminal system is less than Rs 200,000 (US$4000) and each additional PC costs around Rs.14,000. The government, he argues, should help the schools to mobilize the initial investment to acquire this setup and in th long run every school will have a good computer lab. If it cannot do that, it should not become a burden to schools by forcing them to depend on a few selected agencies. By seeing the guidelines it is clear that the motive behind selecting few agencies is not ensuring quality but to open up another area for corruption. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ON AN Ipaq: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> has loaded GNU/Linux on an Ipaq h3850. Says he: "As of now, my research areas are localisation of GNU/Linux on these personal access devices." See http://mlasia.mine.nu/ipaq/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ SEE PICTURES IN CONSOLE MODE (FRAME MODE): Blinston (aka Asterix Baron) who's email address echoes that Shakespearean dilemma <b2ornot2b(a)yahoo.com> has written a small program called cjpg which allows you to view JPEG files whilst in the console mode (frame buffer). Says he: "If anyone can help me out by testing this program on various graphics cards and different modes to iron out all bugs ... well it worked on my SiS530 with all the modes i could try." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa/files/cjpg-0.1.tar.gz +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PYTHON FOR SCHOOLKIDS: Says Raju Mathur <raju(a)linux-delhi.org>: Been thinking about learning/teaching programming for school-goers and Python seems to be more of the right choice than ever. It's clean, well-supported under both Linux and Windows, object-oriented and has a fairly large set of libraries for basic functionality available. Now if only they'd fix the syntax of the damn language I may even start using it myself ;-) Anyhow, I don't know if you're aware of the wxWindows project? It's a C++ graphical library which runs under multiple platforms (Windows, Linux, Unix, etc) and, here's the beauty, provides a consistent interface to the native windowing systems of the platform that it runs on. So a wxWindows program running on Windows would use the native Windows toolkit while one running on Linux would use, e.g. GTK+ (the Gnome toolkit). Apps written in wxWindows thus have the look and feel of the platform they're running on...." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NOTES FROM THE REST OF ASIA: Thanks to Bala Pillai <bala(a)tamil.net> for this input: "The most interactive open source/Linux community in our time zone/Asia springs out of the Philippines. Primarily because the Filipino psyche is a more secure psyche, a more self-confident pyche. Folks who are self-confident worry about the future less, and allocate more time diagnosing and solving problems rather than echoing and reechoing it. Filipinos are also more into sharing and online sharing - we should look to more symbiosis with them. Manila-based Miguel Paraz whom I have interacted with since 1996, is a key catalyst in the Filipino Linux community. http://www.q-linux.com is a good starting point to get a feel for the key Open Source catalysts in the Philippines. KL,Malaysia-based Dinesh who runs http://www.alphaque.com is another lead Open Source catalyst in our timezone. Do look for symbiosis opportunities there too." +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FROM THE DEVELOPERiq: Some updates from the August 2002 issue of DeveloperIQ, an Indian software magazine published from Bangalore. www.developeriq.com LINUXmag section has a special article on how to compile your own Linux kernel, by Philip de Groot. On the CD: Corel Photo-Paint 9 for Linux. Special DeveloperIQ Linux applications collection CDs: RedHat 7.2, 2 CDs Rs 299 RedHat 7.3, 5 CDs Rs 699 Caldera OpenLinux - Workstation 3.1.1, 2 CDs Rs 199 Caldera OpenLinux - Server 3.1.1., 2 CDs Rs 199 Mandrake 8.2, 3 CDs Rs 499 with support Rs 999 Debian 2.2, 3 CDs Rs 499 or with support Rs 999 (support for 30 days or 30 e-mails, whichever earlier) LINUX MAG INDIA-on-CD: 18 Cs in a year. Rs 1499. Get a whole lot of Linux apps and the latest updates. Log on to www.linuxmagindia.com for full details. Five CD starter kit contains RedHat 7.2, Openoffice 1.0, Galeon 1.2.1, KDE 3.0, Mozilla Internet suite 1.0rc2, Netscape 6.2.1, Acrobat reader 4.05, Gimp 1.2.3, Ximian Gnome 1.4, Kmail 1.0.29.2, gqmpeg 0.12.0, Etherape 0.8.2, Kyahoo 0.7, Image 0.1.9, Qcad 1.4.7, Blender 2.12, Cross Artist 1.1, sfront 0.7 and more Development tools: j2re1.4.0, j2sdk1.4.0, j2sdk1.4.0Forte, Redhat 7.2 manuals: installation guide, getting started guide, customization guide, reference guide, release notes, MySQL 3.23 a Redhat RPM, server (i386), Behcnmark/test suites, client program, libraries and header file for development, client shared libraries, binary package, Glade, Anjuta 0.1.7, clip 0.93, DDD 3.3.1, DejaGNU 1.4.2, gIDE 0.3.5, GNU Debugger 5.0, gnome debut 0.1.5, jDBA 0.7, KDE SDK 2.2.1, Open DAP 2.0.19, pyut 1.0, Libtool 1.4.2 and more ENTERTAINMENT: Half-life Opposing Force Server, Trophy 1.0.1, Tux Racer 0.61, Mojoworld Transporter 1.02, Search and Resume Game, Q3Text (Linux)1.07, Armagetron, abuse-SDL0.6.0, Vega Strike 0.2.0-14, 4st Attack Version, SDL_Paradroid, EasySok Version: 0.3.0., FreeDroid 0.7.0, Decopter Version 0.2.3, Penguin Command Version, gf passthru Version; 0.0.1-alpha, Iter Vehemens Ad Necem Version 0.311, Operation Blacksun 2 Version. Send your comments and feedback to ramdas(a)developeriq.com (Editor Ramdas) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ UPDATES FROM i.t. INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY: It calls itself "the magazine for techies and those who want to be"): * Simputer team gets first Dewang Mehta award. ("The [GNU/Linux-based] Simputer places computing power in the hands of the masses. It has a wide range of applications such as microbanking, data collection, Internet access, agricultural information, the school laboratory, the kiosk Simputer, smart card, general purpose citizen's ID card, driving licence, land records, income tax records, passport, bank pass-book and digital cash.") * Included on this CD: ComunigatePRO (scalable, standards-compliant and feature-rich Internet mailing server), Kalculate (complete Indian accounting package for GNU/Linux users), MySQL-Front 1.16, etc. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ WOULD YOU LIKE TO VOLUNTEER TO PROMOTE THIS LETTER? WRITE IN AND TELL US WHAT IDEAS YOU HAVE IN MIND. CONTACT fred(a)bytesforall.org ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ It is not possible to verify all claims made by our informants above. We have attributed statements, as far as possible, to ensure that readers can cross-check details. Please verify software and other claims independently. * FOOTNOTE: Frederick Noronha <fred at bytesforall dot org> is a Goa-based freelance journalist, who writes on IT-for-development and GNU/Linux themes regularly, and is cofounder of BytesForAll <www.bytesforall.org>. In the past year, he worked on a print media fellowship to study India's contribution to GNU/Linux, from www.sarai.net (Sarai-New Delhi) Parag Mehta <pm at linuxindia dot org> is webmaster for Linux India, listadmin for Ilug-bom, Country Manager of India for Linux Counters (do get counted as a GNU/Linux user!). Visit his personal site at: http://pmehta.org ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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RHCE
by flameboy varun 16 Sep '02

16 Sep '02

Hi I am a linux newbie and I have been on linux7.2 and 7.3 for a month. I want to give RHCE. Does anyone have any books or can you give me some guidance. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines

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Network help & RHCE guidance
by santosh patil 16 Sep '02

16 Sep '02

hi all !! I am one of the linux fan just like you, i have worked up to some extend on linux 7.1 & 7.3, i am still facing a problem for linux-to-linux network problem. i tried exporting of files from one computer & mounting from another computer, but everytime i got the message access denied or request rejected. pls. help on this matter. I am very much interested in RHCE exam, as i am working, i can't join any institute, can any one help me for the notes & proper guidance. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines

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popularizing linux @ sangli... topics
by Gurpreet Singh 14 Sep '02

14 Sep '02

> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:02:21 -0700 (PDT) > From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] lets start......popularizing linux @ Sangli. > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > > Hello Luggers...;) > > This time around i write to get the ball rolling > for the upcoming gnu-linux workshop being conducted @ > the Rajaram Bapu College of Engineering. > > I proposed to conduct this workshop for a period of > 2 days in the 1st week of Next month, most probably on > a SAT-SUN. > > I would like the following from Volunteers on this > Mailing list..... > > --> The Workshop is being conducted for Engineering > Students.....so considering the efforts to be put in > from an academic perspective i would encourage u > luggers to put forth TOPICs/Ideas that these Students > could make use of. [snip] wud like to suggest a few as i know the audience kinda good --> since most of our programming is done on C n C++ hence what all does linux have instore for that --> A good introduction of the PRC for the juniors who next year might wanna take up some project from it. --> If there is way to teach ppl how to use the web more fruitfully, it wud be welcome i think, 'coz i just see ppl chatting away to glory in the netcafes and wasting there time, at that really hurts me. --> as many development tools that u guys can cover... > > --> Think abt Volunteering nd mail me abt the Topics > that you would be conversant with. Lets at all cost > avoid Sys-Admin kindda stuff. Tho.....there will be a > small module discussin some very ELEMENTARY Sys-Admin > stuff......nd our main focus still remains > Programming/Gnu-Linux based Envs. [snip] plz dont rule out sys admin totally, maybe few guyz can be given that knowledge so that they can maintain the labs well.

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Re: Mail Looping Problem with Delivered-To header
by Sanjeev 14 Sep '02

14 Sep '02

hi all, found solution to my problem, my mails were looping back to the sender saying <first(a)test.cnpl.co.in>: This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6) i had to make some changes in .fetchmailrc file, removed ``:'' (colon) envelope "Delivered-To" and added dropdelivered now its working fine, here is my running .fetchmailrc file set postmaster "postmaster(a)test.cnpl.co.in" set no bouncemail set no spambounce set properties "" set logfile /var/log/fetchmail poll 203.199.107.48 with proto POP3 and options no dns aka test.cnpl.co.in envelope "Delivered-To" user 'catchall(a)test.cnpl.co.in' there with password 'secret' is * here options fetchall smtphost localhost smtpaddress test.cnpl.co.in forcecr dropdelivered -sanjeev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sanjeev" <sanjeev(a)cnpl.co.in> To: "Charles Cazabon" <qmail(a)discworld.dyndns.org> Cc: <qmail(a)list.cr.yp.to> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:26 PM Subject: Re: Mail Looping Problem with Delivered-To header > Monday, Charles Cazabon wrote: > > >Sanjeev <sanjeev(a)cnpl.co.in> wrote: > >[...] > >> # .fetchmailrc > >> poll ISPIPAddress with proto POP3 and options no dns > >> aka myfqdn > > > >ISPIPAddress? myfqdn? Sorry, we can't help you unless you give us the /real/ > >names and IP addresses involved, the unedited output of qmail-showctl, and the > >complete log entries leading up to the bounce. > > > >Charles > > > > > hi, > > hope Charles, gets complete information from my side > > here are my fetchmailrc, qmail log, qmail-showctl (o/p), > in this example its, > mail from, user1(a)test.cnpl.co.in > to, first(a)test.cnpl.co.in > wwoutgoing and incoming mails are send to sanjeev(a)test.cnpl.co.in > > > ############# this is my fetchmailrc file v ############# > set postmaster "postmaster(a)test.cnpl.co.in" > set no bouncemail > set no spambounce > set properties "" > set logfile /var/log/fetchmail > poll 203.199.107.48 with proto POP3 and options no dns > aka test.cnpl.co.in > envelope "Delivered-To:" > user 'catchall(a)test.cnpl.co.in' there with password 'secret' is * here options fetchall > smtphost localhost > smtpaddress test.cnpl.co.in > forcecr > ############# above is my fetchmailrc file ^ ############# > > > ############# this is my qmail log v ##################### > > @400000003d7ecdd10e22d7d4 new msg 87719 > @400000003d7ecdd10e2331ac info msg 87719: bytes 1181 from <user1(a)test.cnpl.co.in> qp 1660 uid 505 > @400000003d7ecdd110e81254 starting delivery 33: msg 87719 to local sanjeev(a)test.cnpl.co.in > @400000003d7ecdd110e8839c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdd110fbf814 starting delivery 34: msg 87719 to local first(a)test.cnpl.co.in > @400000003d7ecdd110fc3a7c status: local 2/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdd51678c114 delivery 33: success: did_1+0+0/ > @400000003d7ecdd5167926a4 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdd516d14d0c delivery 34: failure: This_message_is_looping:_it_already_has_my_Delivered-To_line._(#5.4.6)/ > @400000003d7ecdd516f65584 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdd51ba5a4f4 bounce msg 87719 qp 1665 > @400000003d7ecdd51ba60e6c end msg 87719 > @400000003d7ecdd51bbaea44 new msg 87693 > @400000003d7ecdd51bc0d5e4 info msg 87693: bytes 1863 from <> qp 1665 uid 507 > @400000003d7ecdd51d6bf1bc starting delivery 35: msg 87693 to local sanjeev(a)test.cnpl.co.in > @400000003d7ecdd51d6eeb74 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdd51d88ef9c starting delivery 36: msg 87693 to local user1(a)test.cnpl.co.in > @400000003d7ecdd51d8be184 status: local 2/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdde0371bc9c delivery 35: success: did_1+0+0/ > @400000003d7ecdde0372222c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdde078550dc delivery 36: success: did_1+0+0/ > @400000003d7ecdde0785b284 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 > @400000003d7ecdde0785c60c end msg 87693 > ############# above is my qmail log ^ ##################### > > > ############# this is my output of qmail-showctl v ##################### > qmail home directory: /var/qmail. > user-ext delimiter: -. > paternalism (in decimal): 2. > silent concurrency limit: 500. > subdirectory split: 23. > user ids: 501, 502, 503, 0, 504, 505, 506, 507. > group ids: 501, 502. > me: My name is test.cnpl.co.in > ldapserver: My ldap server is localhost > > > badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed. > > bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON. > > bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is test.cnpl.co.in. > > concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10. > > concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20. > > databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes. > > defaultdomain: Default domain name is cnpl.co.in. > > defaulthost: (Default.) Default host name is test.cnpl.co.in. > > doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: test.cnpl.co.in. > > doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster. > > envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is test.cnpl.co.in. > > helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is test.cnpl.co.in. > > idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is test.cnpl.co.in. > > localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes test.cnpl.co.in. > > locals: > Messages for test.cnpl.co.in are delivered locally. > Messages for san.test.cnpl.co.in are delivered locally. > > me: My name is test.cnpl.co.in. > > percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed. > > plusdomain: Plus domain name is . > > qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers. > > queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds. > > rcpthosts: > SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at test.cnpl.co.in. > > morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect. > > morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect. > > smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 test.cnpl.co.in. > > smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes. > > timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds. > > timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds. > > timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds. > > virtualdomains: > > now the qmail-ldap specific files > > ldapserver: My LDAP Server is localhost. > > ldapbasedn: LDAP basedn: o=localhost,c=com. > > ldaplogin: LDAP login: cn=qmail,o=localhost,c=com. > > ldappassword: LDAP password: qmailsecret. > > ldapuid: Default UID is: 600. > > ldapgid: Default GID is: 600. > > ldapmessagestore: Prefix for non absolute paths: . > > ldapdefaultdotmode: (Default.) Default dot mode for ldap users: not defined. > > ldapdefaultquota: Default quota for ldap users: 2000000S, 1001C. > > dirmaker: Location of program to create homedirs: /var/qmail/bin/custom_dirmaker. > > ldaplocaldelivery: local passwd lookup is 0 (1 = on, 0 = off). > > ldaprebind: ldap rebinding is 1 (1 = on, 0 = off). > > ldapcluster: (Default.) clustering is 0 (1 = on, 0 = off). > > ldapclusterhosts: (Default.) No alternate MailHosts for clustering listed. > > quotawarning: > ############# above is my output of qmail-showctl ^ ##################### > You are about to be over your quota. Clean your mailbox > > custombouncetext: > You have experienced some sort of problem delivering mail to us. > Please contact us at for more information. > > maxrcptcount: (Default.) 0 RCPT TOs are accepted before sending 553 (0 = off). > > tarpitcount: (Default.) 0 RCPT TOs are accepted before tarpitting (0 = off). > > tarpitdelay: (Default.) 5 seconds of delay to introduce after each subsequent RCPT TO. > > badrcptto: > > relaymailfrom: > Envelope senders allowed to relay: @test.cnpl.co.in. > > rbllist: (Default.) No RBL listed. > > rbltags: (Default.) No RBL listed. > > holdremote: I have no idea what this file does. > concurrencyincoming: I have no idea what this file does. > defaultdelivery: I have no idea what this file does. > relaymailfrom: I have no idea what this file does. > > > regards > sanjeev > >

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On how to mount an audio CD onto ext2fs
by Sankha Subhra Som 14 Sep '02

14 Sep '02

Thanx for the lead Satya. Herez a stepwise manner to do that Step 1 -------- Download any of the tar balls from http://www.elis.rug.ac.be/~ronsse/cdfs/download/ Step2 ------ There is a some bug in the header file cdfs.h To rectify it comment out parts of lines in the following manner #define BANNER FSNAME //##"\t"##VERSION #define EMPTYMESSAGE BANNER //##"\n\tNo CD mounted\n\n" If u wish u could try something more elegant :) Step 3 -------- Run make Step 4 -------- Load the loadable kernel module cdfs.o using /sbin/insmod cdfs.o Step 5 -------- Mount the aud cd using mount -t cdfs -o ro /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdfs Step 6 -------- To see track listings cat /proc/cdfs Enjoy!! -- SANKHA SUBHRA SOM ATC - BIOINFORMATICS TCS KLK BUILDING. HYDERABAD-1 Ph:(040)6787980-1024 ******************************************************** An anonymous digitoid ******************************************************** Do not try to live forever. You will not succeed.

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FreeBSD CD's required ....
by Rupesh 14 Sep '02

14 Sep '02

Hi, I am looking for FreeBSD 4.6 CD's. If anyone has the same please let me know, please email me offlist. --Rupesh

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