Linuxers September 2002

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 Q u a s i wrote : >At 04:47 even 9/4/02 +0530, TH wrote: >>On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 15:05:35 +0530 >>Q u a s i <quasar(a)vsnl.net> wrote: >> >> > I still trip on winamp+tripex3 and surf the net with IE. >>(X-windows suxx majorly.) >> >>Hold it, hold it. Circa June 2000, my Gnome + Enlightenment >>desktop was a showcase that caused many a dropped jaws. I can >>any day say without hesitation that Gnome (haven't used KDE) is >>ages ahead of MS > >We dont agree. I have had X all the time past 6 years. But I >have always found it be a substandard, and a rather ad-hoc GUI. >The need to keep it generic and portable has made the X >architecture excessively slow. They are bring in (supposedly) >cool things like DRI etc. we shall see... I have used Gnome >(Xamian & otherwise) and it has definitely come a long way but it >lacks smoothness and that crisp feel. First time I installed >enlightenment and the bluesteel theme even my jaw dropped to the >floor. But enlightenment has eye candy but is bulky and slack & >I dont like nor need all those frills while working. Sawfish is >fast but still not smooth enough. IceWM & FVWM2 were the best I >have used. Windows 98SE is *way* faster and smoother and >crispier (talking about the GUI only) especially when you take >away the web integration. In the past 2 years I am using it I >have got the arbit blue screen only 4 or 5 times. And I have >hung my xserver as many times too. Whatever you use, you have to >tweak it for better performance, aint it so dear Sir? We can all >equally say {quote}"I'm sorry, you probably never tried to go >beyond the default settings of your window manager."{/quote} *cut* Starting from XP onwards this will change. MS GUI will be more idiot-friendly. Win98 SE is longer officially supported. Besides that is your copy legal? -Ah.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Image Support with PHP
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 Ravindra Jaju wrote : >On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 12:50:01PM -0000, Amol Hatwar wrote: > > > > Ahhh, see I'll make it sound simple - before any HTML is sent >to > > the browser, the server dishes out headers to it. The > > 'Content-Type' and Content-Size is one example, cookies are > > another. However this process only happens once, that is to >say > > you cannot send headers after you've sent the browser HTML. > > > > So do your includes _before_ sending HTML and do not print or >echo > > anything in the includes unless you obviously can't do with >out > > it. Also for debugging, set variables rather than using >die(). > >Not too sure about this, but iirc, this changes with the newer >version >of PHP. > >Output is buffered, so you can have headers anywhere. > >Need to confirm though. > Nor am I... but I am sure sometimes scripts have to run with older versions of PHP. Server Admins resist installing something new just because its has one new cool-feature. Basically they are *drones*, but with PHP the reasons are good - major security flaws. So its better to have headers before HTML. Your scripts stay portable. Regards, -Amol Hatwar.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Image Support with PHP
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 kapil_karekar(a)vsnl.net wrote : >Hi guys, > >I am having an issue with generating images using PHP. > >When I include the PHP file(ex. graph.php), which generates the >PNG image, in my current html file, it gives an error saying >"Headers already sent. * snip * Ahhh, see I'll make it sound simple - before any HTML is sent to the browser, the server dishes out headers to it. The 'Content-Type' and Content-Size is one example, cookies are another. However this process only happens once, that is to say you cannot send headers after you've sent the browser HTML. So do your includes _before_ sending HTML and do not print or echo anything in the includes unless you obviously can't do with out it. Also for debugging, set variables rather than using die(). Regards, -ah.

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] command line MP3 player??
by Amol Hatwar 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 Q u a s i wrote : >At 12:06 morn 9/3/02 +0530, you wrote: >>hey luggerz >>does anyone know of a mp3 player that can be run from the >>command prompt >>my system gets real slow on the gui and even slower if i play >>some media >>Gurpreet > >try splay or mp3blaster. >on my Pentium MMX 200MHz it used to take up 9-11% system >resources according to top. Compare this with winamp which used >~40%. But the latest versions of splay and mp3blaster are >equally fast. > mp3blaster rawks! -ah

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Interesting Conversation
by Amarendra Godbole (Intl Vendor) 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

> Adding on to what Harsh said, I would like to point out that most > universities across the world are beginning to adopt UNIX as the > standard platform for teaching programming. UNIX ? But that's closed source isn't it (at least the commercial versions.) Was it s/UNIX/Linux that you meant to say ? --amar -- Amarendra A. Godbole / Microsoft ``Services For UNIX'' / These opinions are _MINE_. You are the sum total of the choices you make.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] command line MP3 player??
by Mandar Khanolkar 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

hi Gurpreet try mpg123 song.mp3 command. Mandar On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 Gurpreet Singh wrote : >hey luggerz >does anyone know of a mp3 player that can be run from the command >prompt >my system gets real slow on the gui and even slower if i play >some media >Gurpreet

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux CD
by upendra gandhi 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Statistical Analysis in PHP
by Amol Hatwar 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 kapil_karekar(a)vsnl.net wrote : >hi guys, > >I have a mysql database with some statistical data. I need to > >write a php script to perform analysis on that data. > >Does anybody know any functions in PHP which would help me > >to calculate mean. *snip* bad luck... AFAIK PHP has every function in the world except those. Try proding at the math functions - I haven't used them yet. If don't get anything there, we can implement it in PHP. If you need the functions to be fast - they should be; (PHP is about speed) we can implement it in C, and extend PHP. Perhaps, even get our modification incorporated. Regards, Amol Hatwar.

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command line MP3 player??
by Gurpreet Singh 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

hey luggerz does anyone know of a mp3 player that can be run from the command prompt my system gets real slow on the gui and even slower if i play some media Gurpreet

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[OT] [Commercial] Sort-term Professional courses at NCST
by Philip S Tellis 04 Sep '02

04 Sep '02

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