On Monday 30 May 2005 18:46, Sachin wrote:
> hi
>
> UPDATE* Now recently the display freezes, i mean the
> monitor turns off.
Disable power saving in the bios and kernel. Or u may have forgot
to set the "any key" in bios.
rgds
jtd
On Monday 30 May 2005 20:23, Erle Pereira wrote:
> Richard Chang wrote:
Ya Richard you got it finally (i hope) way to go. But the author
apparently prefers to wear Horse blinkers.
> > Here it is why
> >
> > http://www.linux-mag.com/content/view/1974/2303/
>
> the author of that article has got a rather one-sided view
And from the wrong end too.
He's never heard about PDF. PDF is one of the standards in which
to exchange documents. You do it by clicking an icon in openoffice.
Do search for that feature in M$office. Will solve all problems
of document exchange.
Also the size of an Oo .sxw or sxc file is almost 1/3 of an M$
file. So why don't the bums in M$ spend some time to make their
format similar to Oo. Besides it would become standards compliant.
http://www.linuxworld.com/read/88713.htm
>
> my reply in short ... ever tried to hit a moving target? Trying to
> make open-office write properly to a closed source format is
> definetly not very high on the list of things to do (and _should_
> not be)
while on the subject perhaps Richard will care to point out a source
for M$ doc file format and M$office APIs. To get an idea of what we
are blabbing about visit the url.
http://api.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList
I do agree it's a different path from Richard's avowed noble goal
of using without knowing how to. But nonetheless.
He might also want to read (and inform the author too)
http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/faq-overview.html
It will acquaint both with the goals and objectives of the Oo team.
> { ...please lets not turn this thread into another philosophy
> debate.. i only replied b/c i felt a few imp. details were left out
> in the article. End this thread _here_
small correction Erle the most important points were left out in that
article.
This author has been publishing fud according to the folks on Groklaw.
He had in the past published more balanced articles but seems to be
going to the darkside. Perhaps a simple matter of Caviar and Champagne
v/s freedom (yawn). Or maybe using without knowing as some love to say.
rgds
jtd
Well Interoperability is a problem, but its not cos of Linux or
openoffice in particular. Can openoffice help it if M$ hasn't released
the specs of the .doc format (atleast i couldnt find it even after
extensive search on google, if any has then please let me know), besides
openoffice atleast publishes the format it uses unlike M$ who like to
"lock in" their customers.
Interoperability will always be an issue as long as people are seeing to
it that it is.Atleast with linux, its "open" about all formats and
implementations. Even if others r not keen to reveal their
implementation atleast the format should be revealed. What if the
company were no longer in business, what happens to all the stuff thats
"locked" now. This topic was touched my Dr. Nagarjuna also at the GLUG
meet before this one (the one in which we had the HURD demo)
The same argument applies to almost all (probably all) M$ products.
So as long as you choose a closes solution u cannot complain about
interoperability (according to me).
Anand
On Sunday 29 May 2005 21:34, Sachin wrote:
> http://mayuripalharya.tripod.com/questionairre.html
>
> Hi All
> Read a thread on ASUS/SIS and here is my story.
Firstly it seems to be linux compatible.
http://www.linux-tested.com/results/asus_ab-t2301.html
> A year and 2 months before i bought a compaq s5030il
> which has sis651 chipset 128 ram and p42.6ghz pre
> loaded with turbo linux.In the first week it started
> with sudden hangup.
What kernel. Kernels below 2.4.19 could be a source of problems under
very specific combination of conditions (but unlikely).
After how much time does it stop.
Run the board with some heavy load like kernel compile.
If it hangs earlier u have a thermal problem. Use in a chilled room.
Try a faster ram. or a slower cpu.
Memtest should also help in identifying problems.
also check for a bios update. Although linux does not use the bios
it is possible that some device like the supervisory sensors could
be causing a problem.
also try disabling the onboard graphics and using a graphics card.
If nothing else works write to the vendor pointing out that it does
not work under windows and linux from the beginning and ask for a
refund or better still credit for a new mobo.
rgds
jtd
http://mayuripalharya.tripod.com/questionairre.html
Hi All
Read a thread on ASUS/SIS and here is my story.
A year and 2 months before i bought a compaq s5030il
which has sis651 chipset 128 ram and p42.6ghz pre
loaded with turbo linux.In the first week it started
with sudden hangup. Believe me Redington replaced the
motherboard three times and the fourth time i took it
to there office and i don't know what they did but
it started working fine for a month and again now the
same problem but i am left with no warranty on the
system. The vendor even said it was because linux.
There is no error at syslog, kernel log. Windows xp
gives system error(102) and when error submitted
states a Hardware failure. A reboot and the system may
be fine for hours or sometimes in 20 to 30 minutes it
will hang again. Can somebody help me with what could
be the possibilty. Device manager shows everything
fine.
Is there any software like pc-doctor which can
diagnose this problem which is a freeware in linux.Or
can somebody guide me on this. I don't want to call
redington guys because the maximum they would do is
again replace the motherboard which they have done
before. Can anybody assume what could be going wrong
here or a way where the OS can exactly state which is
the failing hardware.
--
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hi
UPDATE* Now recently the display freezes, i mean the
monitor turns off.
>What kernel. Kernels below 2.4.19 could be a source
>of problems under very specific combination of
>conditions (but unlikely).
Kernel 2.6.11.6
>After how much time does it stop.
Nothing specific may be half hour, some at startup
and sometimes 3 to 4 hours.
>Run the board with some heavy load like kernel
compile.If it hangs earlier u have a thermal problem.
Under normal temperature did 4 kernel compile and
it had one hang.
>Try a faster ram. or a slower cpu.
Would try that
>Memtest should also help in identifying problems.
also check for a bios update. Although linux does not
use the bios it is possible that some device like the
supervisory sensors could be causing a problem.
Would do that. And thanks for the advice.
Sachin
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At 1:45 PM +0530 5/30/05, sherlock wrote:
>On Sunday 29 May 2005 21:34, Sachin wrote:
>> http://mayuripalharya.tripod.com/questionairre.html
>>
>> Hi All
>> Read a thread on ASUS/SIS and here is my story.
>
>Firstly it seems to be linux compatible.
>http://www.linux-tested.com/results/asus_ab-t2301.html
>
>> A year and 2 months before i bought a compaq s5030il
>> which has sis651 chipset 128 ram and p42.6ghz pre
>> loaded with turbo linux.In the first week it started
>> with sudden hangup.
>
>What kernel. Kernels below 2.4.19 could be a source of problems under
>very specific combination of conditions (but unlikely).
>After how much time does it stop.
>Run the board with some heavy load like kernel compile.
>If it hangs earlier u have a thermal problem. Use in a chilled room.
I've been having a similar peculiar problem, but the need for
frequent rebooting has pointed me to the possible reason for failure:
one hard disk (which just happens to be my system disk, with both
Win98 and RH) keeps going off. On opening the box I find this disk is
quite hot. My guess is it's heading towards failure. I plan to mirror
it onto another disk at some point and save my data. It is definitely
not an OS problem.
--
Vickram
On 29/05/05 17:58 +0530, Amol Hatwâr wrote:
> > Oracle to mysql seems good. MySQL seems to be developing more n more day
> > by day.
> >
> > Great going mysql !!
> >
> It's good to have features and all. But don't you think MySQL is killing
> it's own competitive edge?
>
> Developers chose MySQL over others because it was lightweight; it was in
> version 3.xx like a swiss-army knife. It is on it's way to becoming
> elephantware.
And I always thought it was because it was installed on webhosts and
because PHP supported MySQL better than other databases.
Lets see: relational integrity, stored procedures, triggers, acid
compliance are just necessary features. Missing in MySQL 3.x.
Does MySQL handle 30th February correctly?
Devdas Bhagat
Hi,
Just ran into a prog lang that I didn't know.. Ruby - "the object oriented scripting language". Has anyone got to grips with this language. I just bought a book for Perl.. Is Ruby better than Perl or are they in two completely different worlds.. http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/20020101.html
Thanks,
Gishu Pillai
On Sunday 29 May 2005 12:35, Trevor Warren wrote:
> --- Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)thenilgiris.com> wrote:
> > keep it on list - i for one am enjoying it
>
> [snip]
>
> No offence meant. But just cause we do not see eye
> to eye on an issue however frivilous it may be we
> choose to take it offline.
>
> In days when as a group we learnt.....we did toy
> around with a lot more frivlous issues and that too
> with no [ot] tags.
>
> Come on boys...rock and troll....oopsy..roll.
Puneet and I agreed to disagree with two mails (offlist) of
I-said-u -said and closed the thread.
And actually GNU/Linux is becoming a bit too reliable (boring?).
All my systems continue to roll without touching them. Hardly
any tech issues.
However the future is fraught with extreme danger due to
proprietary companies - particularly M$ - lobbying for laws
assigning themselves rights which usurp rights of the commons
or fences off large areas of technology simply because somebody
else got to filing patents first. Even worse fencing of
technology which could be used for illegal acts in spite of the
fact that such users are a microscopic subset of legit users,
and the affected parties are big companies on a death spiral.
They are equating knowledge with limited + non replicable
resource - property. In reality the value of knowledge lies
in it's non expendability and replicability. The original
patent laws were created to benefit individuals by providing
them a time limited period of monopoly, so that society and
the creator could benefit from the IMPLEMENTATION of knowledge
AND that knowledge become public. Patent law required that the
patent be described in detail and with specificity. Over a
period of time the whole system was turned on it's head so
that companies became it's primary beneficiary and the patent
paper itself was anything but detailed and specific. This bad
situation was further twisted to patent business processes,
software and algorithms (knowledge) thus trying to interfere
with ones thought process. You can't think an alternate algo
producing the same result. If you think this is idiotic be
assured it IS NOT there are case against two doctors for
discussing Hormone Replacement Therapy, which is patented by
some company (HRT that is ).
The excuse made by companies is that it costs a lot of money
to create knowledge - which is directly contradicted by the
evidence in the case of software. In the case of other
knowledge like pharmaceuticals it could be shown that the
major cost of identifying promising directions of research
are borne by public bodies like universities. It's only the
commercialization which is expensive, again much of that
expense is marketing, distribution and legal costs - nothing
to do with knowledge creation. The evidence is low cost
drug mfgs in baruch / ankleshwar area often as low as 1/20th
the cost of a branded equiv.
The fight by the commons relies in the main on taking the moral
high ground. Compromise this by condoning or justifying illegal
behaviour and you will be delivering yourself a k.o. .
In essence it's a slow slide to the Feudal age where a tyrant
king and his overlords simply annexed large parts of the commons
and made it private property and you paid a tithe to farm, or
became a serf. Their power derived from wealth largely obtained
by plundering peaceful wealthy communities. Sounds familiar?.
rgds
jtd
