Linuxers January 2007

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] RE:Recommend a linux distro
by C.E. Hariharan 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

"Laxminarayan G Kamath A" wrote >BOSS from NRCFOSS-CDAC > http://203.129.255.181/wiki/index.php/Main_Page >http://203.129.255.181/wiki/index.php/Screenshots >www.nrcfoss.org.in/boss/ >http://www.google.co.in/search?q=boss+cdac+nrcfoss Does BOSS support D101GGC motherboard since at http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/products/linux/feature… only Mandriva 2007 supports OOTB.

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Re: Seek advice to quit Windows
by Debarshi Ray 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

> BTW, I would be happy to share my experience with the list; > I'm in the middle of writing a series of blog articles showing how to > replicate my results; if that would be of interest to people. What is the URI? Thanks, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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Re: Core2Duo v/s Pentium D
by C.E. Hariharan 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

Hi friends and tuxers, I dont know how much you understand about the internal workings of the > processor but the Core 2 Duo is radically different from the Pentium > D. Core 2 Duo is based on the Pentium-M architecture while P-D is > based on the old Prescott arch. Prescott inherently had a lot of > heating issue and it had reached its limitations. Pentium-D is also > basically two Prescott cores stuck to each other while Core 2 Duo is > designed to be a dual core processor. > > Mind you, Core 2 Duo will cost you exactly twice of whatever > equivalent P-D will cost you. C2D is gives much more performance per > clock cycle and is about 40% more efficient than the regular Pentium 4 > processor. > > About buying this processor, well, insist that you want to buy a Core > 2 Duo processor which is DIFFERENT from the Dual Core Pentium > processor. Initially my hardware vendor too was confused! :P > > > do get it exchanged core2 duo is really good than pentium d well you as > > per > > my knowledge you will also need to change the mobo for that > > Ya,that's true,but what is the price difference for the board + Core 2 > Duo > v/s pentium D+D101GGC board?I have a friendly reseller coz i contacted him > through a cousin who's a regular customer and bought an entire new PC from > him! >P-D with D101GGC board will cost you 9500-10000INR with 512MB RAM >C2D with DG965RYCK will cost you around 24000INR with 512MB RAM My Intel Express Installer Driver CD shows D101GGC.Is it that D102GGC also > uses the same driver installer CD? >No. 102 has a different installer CD. So,it is the D101GGC board. Can i use my present 512 MB RAM with DG965RYCK or corresponding desktop motherboard in only *essential* series of boards?coz i am no hardcore gamer or anything,i just wnt to ensure my pc doesn't go to the junk heap within a few years. Regards Easwar

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The Linux Brochure
by Rony 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

Hello All, The beginner's Linux brochure is finally complete and exported from Scribus to pdf format. I would like to know where I can post these files for anyone and everyone to use at their own free will, as well as give feedback on any mistakes. The page format finally selected was 2 A4 pages in landscape format and folded into half to give a total of 8 half size pages, like a booklet. The pages will be bound together at the folds. The A4 size will make it convenient for printing on home colour printers too. The pages are meant to be transparent so I am planning to use coloured paper for final printing as it saves a lot on background printing. The penguin picture in it is hand drawn by looking at a ready picture. The original tux was naked so I gave it a suit and bow tie. Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 45, Issue 109
by C.E. Hariharan 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Rony <ronbillypop(a)yahoo.co.uk> > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:49:50 +0530 > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fedora Core 6, Core 2 Duo with DG965RYCK > motherboard > C.E. Hariharan wrote: > > Hi, > > Digressing from the topic,I would like to ask as to the difference > between > > Core2Duo processor with corresponding motherboard and PentiumD 2.80 Ghz > > Dual > > Core processor with Intel D101GGC motherboard in terms of computing > power > > and speed?Like, I asked the reseller for a core2 duo but he got confused > > and > > gave me the above processor.I am in a dilemma whether I should ask him > to > > exchange because one of my friends told me there's hardly any > > difference.Isthat true?What's your opinion? > > > > > > Core2 Duo that comes in 1.8 and 2.13 GHz. speeds with Intel original 965 > RYCK mobo is much more expensive than Dual Core with 102 GGC mobo. BTY, > did the dealer give you 101 or 102 GGC? 101 was phased out since six > months or maybe more. My Intel Express Installer Driver CD shows D101GGC.Is it that D102GGC also uses the same driver installer CD?

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 45, Issue 108
by C.E. Hariharan 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Dilip Khanolkar" <khanolkardilip(a)gmail.com> > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:20:38 +0530 > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fedora Core 6, Core 2 Duo with DG965RYCK > motherboard > On 1/22/07, C.E. Hariharan <easwarno1(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Digressing from the topic,I would like to ask as to the difference > between > > Core2Duo processor with corresponding motherboard and PentiumD 2.80 Ghz > > Dual > > Core processor with Intel D101GGC motherboard in terms of computing > power > > and speed?Like, I asked the reseller for a core2 duo but he got confused > > and > > gave me the above processor.I am in a dilemma whether I should ask him > to > > exchange because one of my friends told me there's hardly any > > difference.Isthat true?What's your opinion? > > > do get it exchanged core2 duo is really good than pentium d well you as > per > my knowledge you will also need to change the mobo for that Ya,that's true,but what is the price difference for the board + Core 2 Duo v/s pentium D+D101GGC board?I have a friendly reseller coz i contacted him through a cousin who's a regular customer and bought an entire new PC from him!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Seek advice to quit Windows
by Debarshi Ray 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

You can try OpenSolaris too. Sun is going to release it under the GNU GPLv3, so alongwith GNU/Linux and *BSD, it is another free operating system. Cheerio, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Fedora Core 6, Core 2 Duo with DG965RYCK motherboard
by C.E. Hariharan 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

Hi, Digressing from the topic,I would like to ask as to the difference between Core2Duo processor with corresponding motherboard and PentiumD 2.80 Ghz Dual Core processor with Intel D101GGC motherboard in terms of computing power and speed?Like, I asked the reseller for a core2 duo but he got confused and gave me the above processor.I am in a dilemma whether I should ask him to exchange because one of my friends told me there's hardly any difference.Isthat true?What's your opinion? Regards Easwar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Seek advice to quit Windows
by Debarshi Ray 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

> 1. I and other normal MIDDLE CLASS students did NOT have access to the > internet. > > 2. There were NO competent faculties around to guide us. > > 3. We had to use whatever WE HAD. Do not just crib about the above points. It was mostly the same with me too. > FYKI I got a decent access to the internet only about 5 years > ago. What is decent? How is it defined. If you are talking about a broadband connection, then I do not have one yet. > You might've been on the internet ever since its inception but we > mere mortals have not. One more presumption on your part. >> These are not clever hacks by any stretch of the imagination. I have >> not had the privilege to look at the code written by any of these >> companies, but I have never across such things in any project worth >> its name. K&R is quite categorical about discouraging such usages. > Yes, but it is the REQUIREMENT of the times. *sigh* > I have not come across a single place where YPK stresses the importance of using > such kind of constructs. All he shows the student is that IT IS POSSIBLE to do > such stuff with C. When you do not explicitly inform the reader that this particular technique is not good practice and compiler dependent, you are implicitly encouraging him/her to repeat and believe in such practice. Even Turbo C/C++ clearly documents which component of the C/C++ libraries are portable and ANSI compliant to what extent. > Buddy, you might've had CSE gurus all around you but most average #include <stdio.h> int main(void){ while(1) printf("presumptions\n"); return 0; } > So we have to go by what we can find and YPK's LUC is the > most visible book around. Few people have heard about K&R's books. Well > thats how the ground reality is. My goodness. You know about C. Not only that, you are so inclined to learn it that you go looking for books. However you never heard about the souls who wrote it. Even if that is true, it does not change the fact LUC leaves a lot to be desired. > And dont even get me started about what kind of students we have. They > cant even learn using books by themselves There is no need to get started. Not every one is capable of doing everything, and they should concentrate on doing what they can do best. > The 'normal' student doesnt understand how a compiler works. 99.9999% of > our engineers dont know what a compiler is written in. There is no > question of misleading anybody. The rest 0.0001% students are smart > enough to find the right way! Nonsense. Regards, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb

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LUG Wiki availability
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

Hi, I've been facing problems with access to the Wiki recently. I normally try both domains - glug-bom.org and ilug-bom.org.in since often one of them opens and the other times out. Is anyone else facing the same problem as well? Regards, -- Siddhesh Poyarekar http://siddhesh.tk

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