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Donald Knuth on open source
by saurabh daptardar 12 May '08

12 May '08

Hi, I came across an interesting interview of Prof. Donald Knuth where he talks about open source ( and other things) http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1193856 Regards, Sourabh Daptardar P.S: Ubuntu camp should be happy should be happy to know that he uses Ubuntu ;) -- "Reality is, after all , too big for our frail understanding to fully comprehend. Nevertheless, we have to build our life on the theory which contains the maximum truth.We cannot sit still because we cannot, or do not , know the Absolute Truth." -- Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose ( An Indian Pilgrim )

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Internet n/w in Etch GUI
by Rony 09 May '08

09 May '08

Hello Everyone, Recently I had downloaded the 3 DVD Debian Etch set, the updates DVD and after checking that md5 was the same, I burned them into DVDs. At a client's place when I installed Etch from them, everything went smoothly. However Firefox (Ice Weasel) does not open any sites. The net is the Triband ADSL modem and in the gnome-terminal as well as konsole, dig, ping as well as ftp download works. Since there was some distraction towards other machines, I did not get to try out the Ubuntu live CDs. The only peculiar thing about the setup is that the ADSL modem (old D-Link) is connected to this machine by ethernet and another windows machine uses the usb interface. A network card in that doze machine then passes on the shared usb connection to the rest of the networked machines. Before installing Debian, the target machine ran xp and net was being normally used though both ethernet and usb have the same 192.168.1.1 ip. The usb machine was shut down too to see if the same IP was the culprit. Even now with Etch, the net works only in terminals. Is this some bug with Etch 3 DVD ISOs? Has anyone encountered such problems with Etch? -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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SVN problem
by Subhodip Biswas 08 May '08

08 May '08

Hi ! When i am trying to access svn over http i get this : [subhodip@home-server ~]$ svn co http://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk JOSM svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/!svn/vcc/default' svn: REPORT of '/svn/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://josm.openstreetmap.de) While when i am doing this : [subhodip@home-server ~]$ svn co svn://svn.mapnik.org/trunk mapnik Checked out revision 697. Why is this so ? what I am missing out here ? -- Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas

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FSF India Delegation Meets the Union Minister for IT
by Rony 08 May '08

08 May '08

Hello All, I found this information about a meeting between FSF India and the Union IT minister in Oct 2007. http://www.gnu.org.in/node/130 Has the Govt. made any progress in implementing the points raised in the petition? -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Fwd: [gpl-violations.org] Court hearing about GPL case of Welte vs. Skype
by Kartik Mistry 07 May '08

07 May '08

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Python Seminar Part 1 Sunday 11th May 2008
by Prashant Shah 06 May '08

06 May '08

More details : http://elitemumbai.wordpress.com/ -- http://elitemumbai.wordpress.com/ elite.mumbai(a)gmail.com

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how to install from pendrive....
by mukesh yadav 05 May '08

05 May '08

hi.. at last meet we install the ubuntu from the pendrive in EEEPC...... I just wanted to know how do i prepare a pendrive so that i can install from a pen drive.. than you

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Issue using GTK based Application in KDE
by Neelesh Gurjar 05 May '08

05 May '08

Neelesh Gurjar <neel.hjs(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I am using Fedora 8 with KDE 3.5 and using Tally 7.2 for Linux on this >> machine. Tally is GTK based application. When I run this application in KDE, >> some of the shortcut keys dont work however when I run it in GNOME those >> shortcut keys work properly. Tally has shortcut keys like "Alt+F12" >> "Alt+F11" etc. >> >> So how can I get this done in KDE ? Abhishek Amberkar wrote: >ALT+F12 is already registered as a shortcut key in KDE. >IF you are not using that shortcut, then go to KDE Control Center >and disable it. > This might help. I tried this also. I disabled Alt+f12 in Kde Control Center. Still no luck. :( Thanks NeeleshG

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How to View Session Details? -- Sify Broadband
by Amit Joshi 04 May '08

04 May '08

Hi, I am using Sify Broadband on Ubuntu. I have a package with a download limit and so I need to check the session details. I am using antidialer to login, but I don't see how I can view my session details. I tried to search on google and came up with the following link, but unfortunately it is not working here. http://broadbandforum.in/sify-broadband/823-need-info-session-details-page-… I have no idea what my SAM server is supposed to be, but after looking into my antidialerrc file I found out that 202.144.65.70 works but not in the way the above link describes. Please help. Regards, Amit. -- http://mckagan.googlepages.com

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Free Software in India - Cover story by Down To Earth Magazine
by Praveen A 04 May '08

04 May '08

As 13-year-old Nalin Sathya, who will sit for these exams next year, puts it, "The system is very easy to use and I can now use it even without seeing the monitor. Python programming language is very easy. I am trying to learn it." Sathya's confidence emerges from a series of events that began eight years ago. -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Issue using GTK based Application in KDE
by Neelesh Gurjar 04 May '08

04 May '08

Hi, I am using Fedora 8 with KDE 3.5 and using Tally 7.2 for Linux on this machine. Tally is GTK based application. When I run this application in KDE, some of the shortcut keys dont work however when I run it in GNOME those shortcut keys work properly. Tally has shortcut keys like "Alt+F12" "Alt+F11" etc. So how can I get this done in KDE ? Please help -- Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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Fwd: Please participate and advertise
by Anurag 02 May '08

02 May '08

The SELF poster originally attached with this mail is available at: http://selfproject.eu/en/system/files/theODC_poster.pdf Anurag ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ms. Meena Kharatmal <meena(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in> Date: 2008/5/1 Subject: Please participate and advertise To: Anurag <anurag(a)gnuer.org> Hello, SELF Project http://selfproject.eu aims for collaborative sharing and creation of open educational materials developed using the SELF Platform http://beta.selfplatform.eu. In July 2006, SELF Project is organizing an international conference on "Free Knowledge, Free Technology" in Barcelona, Spain http://fkft.eu. We are also announcing an Open Documentary Contest http://selfproject.eu/contest. The shorts will be screened and awareded during the FKFT conference in Spain. We would like to take this opportunity to announce the Open Documentary Contest for your participation. Please follow the website for further details. You may download the ODC Poster at http://selfproject.eu/en/poster We would appreciate if you circulate this contest into your network. Participation is open and the last date is May 31, 2008. Thankyou. Best Regards. Meena. -- .................................................................... Meena Kharatmal Blogpage --> http://okeanos.wordpress.com Homepage --> http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/~meena Wikipedia ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refined_concept_map .................................................................... -- http://web.gnuer.org/

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VFS: Cannot open root device "<NULL>" or unknown-block (253, 0)
by Agnello George 30 Apr '08

30 Apr '08

Hi I am trying to install Cent OS 5 on a freshly formatted HDD. When boot my system frm the CD rom i get e following error "crc error VFS: Cannot open root device "<NULL>" or unknown-block (253,0) plese append a correct "root=" boot optiion kernel panic -not syncing: VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknow-block (253,0) " never faced such a issue before if can one can help , would be really grateful Thanks -- Regards Agnello Dsouza

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Network and Sound not working
by Cyril Chacko 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

Dear all, Has anyone configured Debian Linux on Campaq Presario F733AU Laptop. I have installed Debian on the Laptop. The Ethernet card is not detected during the install. And after install, none of the devices worked properly. Going through the net I managed to find out how to get the display going. I had to use the Vesa driver instead of nv from Xorg. However I am not able to find anything to tell me what to do about my other devices. I am adding my lspci output to this mail. Thanks for all the help Regards Cyril chacko -- Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. Make sure they are on you.

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strftime for javascript
by Philip Tellis 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

They say that you cannot teach an old dog new tricks, so this dog has been up to some old tricks. A couple of days ago I released strftime[1] for javascript with partial support for all of PHP's strftime[2] format specifiers, and today I released version 1.2 with full support and the ability to localise it. Get it via freshmeat here: http://freshmeat.net/projects/strftime-js/ (if you want the tarballs) or directly here: http://hacks.bluesmoon.info/strftime/ (if you only want the source and docs). The code is BSD licensed. Some more info: - The opengroup specification for strftime has 33 format specifiers and 19 modified format specifiers - PHP's strftime has the 33 basic format specifiers and adds 3 more - This javascript implementation supports the entire PHP set, and does not support the 19 modified format specifiers - The code supports locale specific representations through a locale extension mechanism which is well documented [3] There are bound to be bugs, so send them my way any way you see fit. The project is also hosted on google code, but I'm not too happy with the interface and am considering moving it to sourceforge mainly for svn and issue tracking. If you have strong opinions one way or the other, let me know. Anyway, for now, play with it, let me know about bugs, if you want to write a localised module for a particular language, feel free to do so and send it in. Philip [1] - http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xsh/strftime.html [2] - http://php.net/strftime [3] - http://hacks.bluesmoon.info/strftime/localisation.html -- hello world

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PHP Seminar Part 2 - Sunday 4th May
by Prashant Shah 28 Apr '08

28 Apr '08

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Indian students in SoC
by Praveen A 27 Apr '08

27 Apr '08

Hi, We know about 7 students from India who got selected for SoC this time. http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/SoC/2008 If you know of any student from India not listed there please update. Regards Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Subversion 1.5.x first public RC
by Senthil Kumaran S 25 Apr '08

25 Apr '08

Hi, The long awaited release of subversion "with merge-tracking" has been ready with its first public release candidate. You can find the official announcement here http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2008-04/1120.shtml In another 6 to 8 weeks we are expecting a GA :) This release includes a lot of feature additions (http://subversion.tigris.org/svn_1.5_releasenotes.html) to subversion. Try it and report bugs if any, that will help the community :) If you want to know how to use subversion with all those bells and whistles check out http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-book.html -- Senthil Kumaran S http://www.stylesen.org/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Why Schools Must Embrace ODF and FOSS
by Venkatesh Hariharan 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

> > My choice would be that the Govt. makes it mandatory for all hardware > donations to be independent of riders on software that can be installed on > them. Legal experts could site some clause about not allowing MRTP in > education. Last time we met, Nagarjuna had mentioned about school syllabus > having to be independent of brand identities. Then let the donors (anyone) > decide whether they can operate under this rule or want to back out. That > will also help the public get a better understanding of the benefactors. As > an organization, FSF India could prod the Govt. into making this rule. We > can write a letter with all our signatures and send it to the PM and other > Ministries. We could all meet at HBCSE to sign this letter. Better still would be an online petition. http://www.ipetitions.com www.petitiononline.com I will follow up on this since I am now based in Delhi. Venky

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Why Schools Must Embrace ODF and FOSS
by Praveen A 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

Schools are being prevented from enjoying a revolution in software provision, and self-sufficiency is being halted by the promotion of dependency, said Ian Lynch, spokesman for the Open Schools Alliance. "Innovation starts with teachers and pupils, but under BSF the school's IT strategy is taken out of its hands," he said. see more news at how Microsoft is trying to lock students at an early stage http://boycottnovell.com/2008/04/19/school-odf-koffice-nlnet/ We (those us us from Kerala) can be proud that we did not let our children to suffer, but be watchful, they are trying hard. See how Microsoft's playmate Infosys is selling our children and our countries future. http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm/browse_thread/thread/5187fd263da0e0… -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Interview with Debian Devleoper from IITM Varun Hiremath
by Praveen A 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Which project do you currently contribute to? I am a Debian Developer and I am currently maintaining about 135 packages in Debian. This is my Debian QA page where you will find the list of packages I am currently maintaining in Debian: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=Varun+Hiremath Apart from Debian I have been contributing to many open source projects: 1) I am author of open source project python-gastables: python modules for compressible gas flow calculations: Homepage: code.google.com/p/python-gastables 2) I am also author of Krickscore - KDE applet for cricket scores. http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/KDE/krickscore-25612.sht… Homepage: http://varun.travisbsd.org/krickscore.php 3) I have been contributing to Jajuk - Advanced Juke box project, where I am working as a Developer and Debian package maintainer. Homepage: http://jajuk.info/index.php/Main_Page 4) I am also currently maintaing pidgin-festival ( formerly knows as festival-gaim). I rewrote festival-gaim to make it work with the new pidgin API. Homepage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pidgin-festival/ How does it feels to have two DDs from neighbouring rooms? (Kumar Appaiah stays next to my room) It is a big advantage having him next door because we get to learn a lot from each other. Usually there is a lot of activity going on in Debian, and it becomes very difficult to keep track of things; having another DD next door really helps a lot to catch up with action. Read More about Varun at http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Varun_Hiremath Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Propagating Digital Democracy
by Rony 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hello All, This Olympic season has witnessed a lot of supporters of freedom and the media too is going out of its way to provide news reports on how activists all over the world are protesting against dictators and autocratic regimes. Even on normal days the people as well as the media have become pro-active in exposing those who abuse their power and position, whether it is the powerful Nations, politicians or Government officials. All this is happening because there is full awareness about Freedom and Democracy. There are now aware of their rights, so they protest whenever anyone abuses power. However in the digital world there is a near complete lack of awareness of Digital Democracy and Freedom. The main reason I believe for this is that we look at the digital world as simply a collection of electronic gadgets that help us do our daily work. We forget that the Digital World is nothing but an extension of the real world. Computers are no longer the simple devices that did specific jobs for us. They are a complete Digital Ecosystem that is fully integrated into our personal and professional space. Therefore anything that affects our Digital Freedom affects our individual freedom too. A software manufacturer for our digital environment is no different from a regular manufacturer who produces materials or finished products for our homes and offices. When we setup a home or an office, a lot of people are involved like carpenter, mason, plumber, painter, electrician etc. They provide us with the finished infrastructure we need to run our homes and offices. After their job is done and we start using the finished rooms, do we hand over an extra set of keys to each one of them so that they can walk into our rooms as and when they feel so and rummage through our things? We zealously guard our living space. What about our digital space? Why should a software manufacturer have to constantly access our Digital space under the pretext of providing security and upgrades when he should have provided a secure Digital product through its manufacture itself. How many of us realize that when a giant software manufacturer of one country has this access to our Digital space in most of the world's computers, including those used by Governments of all Nations, it has direct access to sensitive data and records of all those Nations. In our living world, we buy and use products that can be re-filled, re-cycled and can be serviced by more than one vendor as this makes our life easy and we are not dependent on one entity who may demand whatever price it wants to. We also look for continuity of use for those products over the years instead of simply paying high amounts every time and using them for short periods. Do we have the same awareness in the Digital World? Why are we content with paying large amounts of money for software to run our digital products and keep shelling out more and more every year for upgrades? Are we aware that digital products like computers can be run on software that is not expensive, restrictive and has a very long life span? That is Freedom software or Libre software. This is software that anyone can analyze, modify and use on their digital products with full freedom without the constant fear of it getting obsolete or our data becoming un-readable. In the real world if we guard our freedom to buy and use any product anyway we want without any monopolistic control or restrictions from the manufacturer then in the Digital world, why are we ignorant of our right to software Freedom and Digital Democracy? In the real world, if anyone powerfull and influential tries to flex his muscles and mow others down, there is an immediate public and media outcry against it. However in the Digital world why are we simply ignorant of our Digital Freedom and Democratic rights and let the Software super-powers simply bulldoze any initiative for Software Freedom? Knowledge creates awareness and awareness brings Freedom. Just as Democracy and Freedom are most important to mankind in the real world, so is Digital Democracy and Freedom, especially in this Digital era where knowledge is now digitized and should be freely accessible to everyone. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Kumar Appaiah: 5th Debian Developer from India
by Praveen A 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Kumar Appaiah (ILUGC Member and Final year Dual degree student, EEE Dept, IIT-Madras) is the 5th Debian Developer from India. Other 4 from India are Ganesan Rajagopal, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan in Bangalore. Kapil Hari Paranjape in Institute of Mathematical Sciences Taramani. Varun Hiremath, student of Aerospace Engg. at IIT Madras. Congratulations Kumar. It is a great boost for the Debian community in India. -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] google groups without membership: was a list discussing the ICT policy for education
by Nagarjuna G. 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Raj Mathur <raju(a)linux-delhi.org> wrote: > On Saturday 19 Apr 2008, Nagarjuna G. wrote: > > Those of you who would like to take active role in shaping the ICT > > policy of India, please join this group and voice your opinions. > > This group has members from various organizations, and not > > necessarily from free software community. > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/ict-education-india > > Why Google? It won't let me join the group unless I have a Google > account, and it won't let non-Google-members view archives, etc. > > I presume increasing Google's market worth isn't one of the objectives > of this discussion forum. > I do not realize till this time that it is not possible to subscribe unless you have a google account. the owner of the group subscribed my gnowlede.org account, so i could not realize and never visited the site nor the archives. Can a person with google account invite a non-member? or does this also make the non-member a member if the invited accepts? Nagarjuna

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a list discussing the ICT policy for education
by Nagarjuna G. 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Those of you who would like to take active role in shaping the ICT policy of India, please join this group and voice your opinions. This group has members from various organizations, and not necessarily from free software community. http://groups.google.com/group/ict-education-india -- Nagarjuna G.

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3gpwiz installation
by Nishit Dave 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

Hi all, I have installed 3gpwiz from the LFY April 2008 cd. This script requires that I install ffmpeg with support for all types of media codecs. The script for installing ffmpeg tries to download it from mplayerhq.hu through a CVS command. When I run the install-ffmpeg script, the output tells me that it cannot find mplayerhq.hu. Now, I usually connect to the internet through an open (no uid / pwd) proxy at the workplace, that apparently doesn't allow ftp access. As I have already configured the proxy in my environment settings, bash profile etc., connecting to the internet while on my Reliance datacard from the bash shell also does not work. The mplayerhq.hu site now hosts mplayer and ffmpeg sources on SVN, and the CVS repository is obsolete (up to 2006). I had downloaded the 2006 ffmpeg tarball and tried to install 3gpwiz against that (after modifying the script), but it did not work properly. Has anybody else installed 3gpwiz successfully? Can anybody tell me how to replace the CVS option in the script with an SVN command? If you want, I will post the script's contents (after rebooting to linux).

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Help needed
by Aniruddha Dasgupta 17 Apr '08

17 Apr '08

Hi people, We are at a fix here. our studio is expecting a new work in a couple of days and our windows systems are repeatedly infected by virus. and our copy of SUSE has become corrupt. If anyone has a copy of SUSE linux 10.1 with all the repositories and codecs etc. can they give us a copy ? would be very grateful. because we are novice with linux, we won't be able to get all the repos from the net and we don't even know how to do that properly. next, if someone can guide us, as to where we can get a copy of Maya for Linux. same problem. our copy is not getting installed. We would be greatly obliged if someone can come over as our guest and have a look, at ou place and the system. looking for all your replies. regards Aniruddha Dasgupta Director-Animation +91-9324696842

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.. Re: Sunday Meet I am Waiting For It!
by Anivar Aravind 16 Apr '08

16 Apr '08

> True. For now it's not even a standard, never mind any other criteria > by which one may choose to classify a standard. > Of course M$ will always have their spin on everything, so Open > Standard means just that - a non standard open to interpretation by > everyone and the mickysoft puppet. One of the Demands of the candle light vigil was the need of a Clearly defined national policy for Open standards. Such a policy document need to define Open standards first Now Knowledge commission recommends Open standards 11th 5-year plan talk about open standards National Egovernance plan (NeGP) recommends it. but in the absence of a national policy with a clear definition of open standards we need to spend a lot of time for every project to get corrected. As Nagarjuna points on Hindu report already posted here “Very big voices like NASSCOM and Infosys that have not participated in even one meeting have voted irresponsibly. We fear that if such lobbying continues, academics and individuals like us will be put on the defensive, unless there is a policy in place,” said Nagarjuna G., professor at the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, who was part of the technical committee of BIS. Todays Programme was a big sucess here in bangalore. Nearly 70-80 people turned up. Anivar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] .. Re: Sunday Meet I am Waiting For It!
by jtd 15 Apr '08

15 Apr '08

On Tuesday 15 April 2008 03:23 pm, Devranjan Das wrote: > > not yet. ISO has approved setting up a commitiee for reconciling > > the differences between the various factions and resolving > > technical issues. > > > > Dear List > > This wikipedia article says that "OOXML" is an open standard. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Open_XML > > Is that so? No. It's not a standard. It is a proposed standard which will have to be cleared by various regular ISO committies and the newly formed ones (read my previous mail), before becoming a standard. OTOH ODF is already an approved standard. -- Rgds JTD

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[OT] LFY April 2008
by Nishit Dave 15 Apr '08

15 Apr '08

Hey, have the subscribers among you started to receive this month's LFY issue, you know, the one with FreeBSD (!drool)? If only I have been left out, it would be because of their very helpful but slightly confused subscriptions dept. (Coming from me, would it perk up ears?)

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The Hindu: Techies protest proprietary standards; seek policy
by Praveen A 15 Apr '08

15 Apr '08

Today's Hindu has a report on Candle Light Vigil and Campaign for Document Freedom. BANGALORE: Ever since the International Standardisation Organisation (ISO) vote on April 2 adopted Microsoft's Office Open XML (OOXML) as a document standard, techie blogs and websites have been inundated with posts and articles voicing their opposition to proprietary software and technical issues with the new standard. Organisations and online communities — such as the Free Software User Group and the Free and Open Source Software — are looking to raise the issue more aggressively in the public domain. "We call the OOXML format a "banana standard." Besides raising awareness, we want the Government to formulate a policy supporting Open Software and also appeal the ISO mandate," said Anivar Aravind, a software consultant who will participate in a rally in front of the Town Hall on Tuesday to raise awareness about Open Document formats and demand a national policy on standardisation and use of Open Software. In simple words, the problem is one of compatibility, an important issue in this digital world. For example, take the much hyped e-governance. If the Government maintains its land records in a certain digital format, and the documentation uses a proprietary format, then a user will have to keep upgrading his operating system to access the record. Proponents of Free Software argue that even with Microsoft's old document format (.doc), a file created seven to eight years ago may not be recognised by a modern operating systems such as XP. "This is like being sold a house without being given the key to it. We need public support to take it to the policy level," says Venkatesh Hariharan, who was part of a Bureau of Indian Standards (BIS) committee. The BIS, which represents India at ISO, had 19 members of which 13 voted against Microsoft's OOXML. Many academics and colleges (NIT-Calicut among others) have written open letters to TCS, Infosys, NASSCOM, Wipro (that voted to abstain) and Microsoft (voted in favour of OOXML). There is a rising fear among academics and advocates of free software standards that BIS will come under pressure in the absence of any national policy. Tamil Nadu and Kerala are the only two States who have a policy in place. "Very big voices like NASSCOM and Infosys that have not participated in even one meeting have voted irresponsibly. We fear that if such lobbying continues, academics and individuals like us will be put on the defensive, unless there is a policy in place," said Nagarjuna G., professor at the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, who was part of the technical committee of BIS. This committee alone identified 200-odd technical flaws in OOXML's 7,000 page document — the Open Document Format is 600 pages — and more than 1,000 others were identified internationally. The National Knowledge Commission Report 2006 and the Eleventh Five Year plan for Information Technology recommend Free Software. http://www.hindu.com/2008/04/15/stories/2008041554380500.htm -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Sunday Meet I am Waiting For It!
by PenguinPuPPy 15 Apr '08

15 Apr '08

Sure It will be a pleasure to meet after a long time ..I was waiting for a meet since a long time what could be a better excuse that the ASUS Eee PC.BTY i have Ubuntu 7.10 and 8.04 beta will get them on Sunday -- To Love The Penguin(aka TUX) You Need To Be As Faithful As A Puppy

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Linux compat Printer
by jtd 14 Apr '08

14 Apr '08

Hi all, My ancient hp 720C which worked for the last 11 yrs is finally showing it's age. The pins on the catridge socket have poor contact resulting in streaky printing. I was planing on buying the HP K5300DN, which works with full capability under linux. Print load is moderate. I require good color print for the occasional printed brochure. Any recommendations? -- Rgds JTD

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Apache -MySQL module ??
by Agnello George 14 Apr '08

14 Apr '08

Hi I would like to know if any one has worked on Apache -MySQL module Just like bind-dlz , i would like to know if it is possible of instead of storing the location of the website directory path in files could it be stored in a MySQL database. And if possible how do i query to that database through the httpd.conf file . Thank you Awaiting your reply -- Regards Agnello Dsouza

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PHP Part 2 - Sunday 20th April
by Prashant Shah 14 Apr '08

14 Apr '08

For those who attended part 1. Details : http://elitemumbai.wordpress.com/ Please register -- Elite System. http://elitemumbai.wordpress.com/ elite.mumbai(a)gmail.com Join our group for seminar announcements : http://groups.google.com/group/elitesystems

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ASUS eee PC WiFi connection
by Arun Khan 14 Apr '08

14 Apr '08

> From: Rony > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] ASUS eee PC WiFi connection > The stock os supports only wep. It also supports wpa but I have not had a chance to connect it to a wpa AP. It is strange that wpa2 is not supported by the GUI given wpa2 has been around for a while. -- Arun Khan

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Bangalore, 15th April: Candle light vigil for Document Freedom
by Praveen A 14 Apr '08

14 Apr '08

Dear Friends, Recently International Standardisation Organisation (ISO) is approved Microsoft's broken standard OOXML( with 1000s of Technical Flaws) also as a Document standard. India's Vote was No to this standard that creates vendor lock-in and prevents interoperability. Micro$oft played a lot of nasty games to get the approval from member countries. In this context we are Conducting a Candle Light Vigil for Document Freedom Demanding bureau of indian standard (BIS) to appeal ISO's Decision of approving the banana standard OOXML Venue : In Front of Townhall, Corporation Circle , Bangalore Date : 15th April 6.00pm The programme is planned as a starting point for various events & awareness campaigns on Document freedom . Please use following wiki page for organising the programme http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Campaign_for_Document_Freedom Also add your name on campaigners section Contact : Praveen A <pravi.a at gmail.com> +91 9986348565 Anivar Aravind <anivar at movingrepublic dot org> +91 9449009908/ +91 080 23435606 Why Document Freedom? We live in an age in which paper documents increasingly get replaced by electronic records. Document freedom is fundamental for your documents to outlive the application you are currently using and allows you to choose and change applications freely. Previous proprietary document formats have become difficult or impossible to read within little more than a decade. There is no reason to believe this trend will not continue if allowed so to do. Without open standards for our documents we are likely to inflict a 'digital dark-age' on our descendants when they discover that they are unable to read any of the sources for their history, such as Government records, acts of Parliament, property title deeds, scientific research papers, and family histories. They will not forgive us if we fail to act to protect them now, but instead allow another generation of poorly specified proprietary standards to become widely adopted. Document Freedom and Democracy Electronic records kept today include records of your government, such as tax and legal records or minutes of parliamentary proceedings. Making sure that such records remain in the control of the government is essential for a functioning democracy. The same is true for all interactions between citizens and their government, which should never depend on monopolies or on the proprietary product of a single company. How to achieve Document Freedom? Make a stand by saving your documents in ODF today. If your application does not support ODF, get one of the ODF supported applications like OpenOffice.org, Staroffice, NeoOffice, KOffice, AbiWord, Google Docs, IBM Lotus Symphony etc We request all users to 1. not send attachments in proprietary formats like .doc, .xls, .ppt 2. not pollute their friends computers and the internet with unethically encoded documents. 3. inform the users that they do not have right to decode the documents they themselves have written, if they use proprietary software 4. distribute open office cds, containing apps with source code for windows. 5. distribute live cds. Regards Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] ASUS eee PC WiFi connection
by Arun Khan 13 Apr '08

13 Apr '08

> From: Rony > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] ASUS eee PC WiFi connection > > > Arun Khan wrote: > > A friend has acquired one of the ASUS eee PC. > > > > Is there a way to make the WiFi to work with an AP with WPA2? > > > > Hi Arun, join us tomorrow at HBCSE 10.30 am for the workshop on this > very eeepc. I had other commitments so I could not make it to the meet. Did anyone discuss how to connect to an AP with wpa2, using the stock OS that comes bundled with the unit? I guess, I can set my own AP to do wpa but that may not be an option in other locations. -- Arun Khan

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Issue in SAMBA & LTSP
by Neelesh Gurjar 13 Apr '08

13 Apr '08

Hi, My file server is configured in CentOs 5 samba share (samba version 3.0.26a) and in clients desktops, i have a mix environment windows XP + suse linux 10.3 All clients mount through samba in windows and in linux they share from nfs or samba (using cifs ) In the above case, when we try to open the same file first computer should get rw and other one should get read only. But here i get both files opened in rw mode, which shld not happen. I tried following combinations for one file. 1. I opened one file in Linux and same time I open same file in Windows. I got write permissions at both end. 2. I opened same file in Linux and Linux. I got write permission at one and read only permission at other end. 3. I opened same file in Windows and Windows I got write permission at one end and read only permission at other end. So here I want to eliminate 1 st. It should not open writable at both end. Where I should look for ? Below is my share [test] path = /home/<user> browseable = yes volume = test strict locking = yes force group = windows force user = <user> comment = testing -- Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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Problem of Via Chrome9 HC IGP with Ubuntu 7.10
by Raza Sayed 13 Apr '08

13 Apr '08

Hello, I got Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) CD . When i boot the live CD on my laptop , i get the option screen where we have options to start or install ubuntu , start in safe graphics mode etc... When i select 'start or install ubuntu', i get the usual splash screen , then a screen that shows all the drivers getting loaded etc.. , then when it reaches the stage where the desktop is to be loaded , i get a mouse pointer for a while and then the whole screen goes blank . The desktop does not load. Ive tried the following things but none of them worked : 1) I tried using vga=771 as a boot option . 2) I tried booting in safe graphics mode , but the same thing happened. My video card is Via Chrome9 HC IGP . Also, i dont have an alternate CD. I was able to get to the desktop with Ubuntu 6.06(Dapper Drake). So,is this an issue of Ubuntu 7.10 with Via Chrome9 HC IGP video card ?. Also, any way it can be resolved ?. Thanks a lot. Regards, Raza. "Don't tell me the sky is the limit, there are footprints on the moon !!" --------------------------------- Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here

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ASUS eee PC WiFi connection
by Arun Khan 12 Apr '08

12 Apr '08

A friend has acquired one of the ASUS eee PC. Is there a way to make the WiFi to work with an AP with WPA2? -- Arun Khan

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Linux Mini Laptops
by Rony 11 Apr '08

11 Apr '08

Hello All, Yesterday at Lamington Road I came across small sized and low cost Asus and HCL laptops using older processors. I liked the looks of the Asus one as it was white in colour and resembled an Apple so I requested the shop assistant to put it on. It was an Intel one with 3 usb ports, one external VGA port, 7 inch screen, LAN, modem ports, Wireless LAN, camera. It had no CD drive, no HDD, only a 4 GB flash drive. It was preloaded with Google OS (which is based on Ubuntu). It booted fast into the desktop and had a proper GNU/Linux OS with Firefox, thunderbird, OO etc with Skype and Google applications too. It fits into a medium sized ladies hand bag and is easy to carry around. Cost is between 16.5K to 17.5K. This tiny tot is a good option for those intending to buy a PDA phone but have a low budget and even those who want more out of their PDAs. It is a full fledged operating system so attaching compatible peripherals like pen drives, printers, scanners, bluetooth adapters, USB modems etc would be very easy through the USB port. You can choose whatever software you want to install. The external VGA port can make this device handy for making presentations on a projector. This is just my personal opinion and I am not representing any of the vendors selling it. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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error: bind-9.5.0-25.1.b2.fc8.src.rpm cannot be installed
by Agnello George 10 Apr '08

10 Apr '08

i am trying to install bind-9.5 src rpm on my centOS system !! i get the the following error : the source for this is http://people.redhat.com/atkac/bind/ [root@rhel5 src]# rpm -ivh bind-9.5.0-25.1.b2.fc8.src.rpm error: bind-9.5.0-25.1.b2.fc8.src.rpm: Header SHA1 digest: BAD Expected(17fdf6bc865e18049b5b676cd033278d6315c2ce) != (d8bc2f1f6b9fec9fc5913627ab017e371026d58d) error: bind-9.5.0-25.1.b2.fc8.src.rpm cannot be installed if your wondering why i am using the src rpm is cause i would have to edit the bind.spec file i don't understand what Header SHA1 digest: BAD Expected means ?? can any one help me out here !!! thanks -- Regards Agnello Dsouza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com

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An Open Letter to Wipro, Infosys and TCS
by Praveen A 09 Apr '08

09 Apr '08

http://www.fossmeet.in/node/128 6th April 2008 This letter is to express our deep disappointment over your open support to the OOXML format forced through ISO by Microsoft. Being the top IT giants and thus the representatives of the IT industry in the country, it is a great shock to us that you do not stand with academia of the country and its representatives like the IITs, IIMs and IISc in supporting the Open Document Format (ODF) which is a true Free and Open Standard already recognised as an ISO Standard. Considering that a major portion of your employees come from such institutions, it is a wonder to us that you have decided to go ahead with this decisions. We would like to hear your explanation with respect to these points :-(quoted from www.noooxml.org/petition) 1. There is already a standard ISO26300 named Open Document Format (ODF): a dual standard adds costs, uncertainty and confusion to industry, government and citizens; 2. There is no provable implementation of the OOXML specification: Microsoft Office 2007 produces a special version of OOXML, not a file format which complies with the OOXML specification; 3. There is information missing from the specification document, for example how to do a ´autoSpaceLikeWord95´ or ´useWord97LineBreakRules´; 4. More than 10% of the examples mentioned in the proposed standard do not validate as XML; 5. There is no guarantee that anybody can write software that fully or partially implements the OOXML specification without being liable to patent lawsuits or patent license fees by Microsoft; 6. This format conflicts with existing ISO standards, such as ISO 8601 (Representation of dates and times), ISO 639 (Codes for the Representation of Names and Languages) or ISO/IEC 10118-3 (cryptographic hash); 7. There is a bug in the spreadsheet file format which forbids any date before the year 1900: such bugs affect the OOXML specification as well as software applications like Microsoft Excel 2000, XP, 2003 and 2007. 8. This standard proposal was not created by bringing together the experience and expertise of all interested parties (such as the producers, sellers, buyers, users and regulators), but by Microsoft alone. With this decision, the impression you are making on your future employees in the academia is not a very pretty one. In fact, the development of OOXML receiving ISO´s approval has devalued our confidence in the standards setting process itself. We hope that you will put self-profit behind our country´s needs, change your decision, and stand with the rest of the country on this issue. PS: Please forward this to the groups you are in... -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Compiz on Intel 845
by Rony 09 Apr '08

09 Apr '08

Hello All, I am trying to run compiz-manager in Etch but it needs XGL. However XGL drivers on the net are for nvidia and ati. How does one get compiz running on an old i845? I have installed compiz packages from the shame repo. Compiz-manager does not seem to do much except change my title bar and after pressing Ctrl+C to stop compiz, the active windows don't close until I log out. I want those 3D cubes. They are enabled in the CompizConfg settings manager. Here is the message I get when I run compiz-manager. "Checking for Xgl: not present. xset q doesn't reveal the location of the log file. Using fallback /var/log/Xorg.0.log Detected PCI ID for VGA: 00:02.0 0300: 8086:2562 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Checking for texture_from_pixmap: not present. Trying again with indirect rendering: Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present. Checking for non power of two support: present. Checking for Composite extension: not present. aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity " -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linuxers Digest, Vol 60, Issue 10
by Suhit Kelkar 09 Apr '08

09 Apr '08

Hello, I am new to the lug, and among other things I look forward to meeting fellow members. I look forward to Sunday. Regards, Suhit Kelkar.

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[commercial]VoIP engineers and PHP developers needed
by Justin Moore 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

Hello, We have 2 immediate openings for the following contract positions: VoIP engineer, PHP developer. We are an American based company that provides managed iPBX and Web hosting solutions, with a solid foundation in FOSS. VOIP engineer: We are again searching for a VoIP engineer to work on a part time basis as a consultant. We are in the process of setting up an ITSP and have customers and upstream providers all set. The ideal candidate will have in depth knowledge of OpenSER and Asterisk, and will be able to help architect a redundant, scalable solution. PHP developer: The ideal candidate will have solid experience with PHP/MySQL and be familiar with Web standards. All development work is done under Linux with SVN. Previous experience with payment gateways/e-commerce solutions is a plus. Ability to work with minimal supervision is required. This is a contract position, but could be a temp to perm situation. You will work from home, on timings of your choosing and will be paid monthly (we will pay by wire after the first two weeks to show good faith, but monthly thereafter to save on wire fees) Please submit all resumes/vitaes to me along with preferred timings, salary requirements, and any questions that you may have. Have a nice day. Justin

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PHP Seminar on 13th April 2008 & Python coming soon
by Prashant Shah 07 Apr '08

07 Apr '08

PHP seminar part 1 - 13th April Sunday 2.30 PM All Details : http://elitemumbai.wordpress.com/ Register/Message off the list ! Join the group for future seminar announcements : http://groups.google.com/group/elitesystems Note : PHP Part 2 and Python coming soon. -- Elite System. A free software company http://elitemumbai.wordpress.com/ elite.mumbai(a)gmail.com http://groups.google.com/group/elitesystems

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[commercial] PHP Freelancers needed
by Prashant Shah 07 Apr '08

07 Apr '08

Short description : 2 Years experience in PHP Office in Lokhandwala Email / Contact : Mr. Sanjeev Sarma : sanjeevsarma AT gmail.com

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can a badly configured firewall crash a router?
by Kenneth Gonsalves 05 Apr '08

05 Apr '08

hi, I have a firewall server which runs squid. The firewall is configured by shorewall. We have 3 ISPs, 1. bsnl broadband 2 Mbps 2. leased line 2 Mbps 3. an internal line - not relevant to this issue The LAN has 150 machines. The problem I face with the first two is this: the line works well, iftop shows 2 Mbps or more of traffic. Then at random intervals - sometimes after several days, sometimes after a few hours, traffic stops flowing. Checking the interface with ping, sometimes I am unable to ping the gateway, at other times I can ping the gateway, but cannot ping anything beyond the gateway. I stop traffic to that line, and after some time restart traffic and it works ok. I checked all the wiring, tightened everything in sight. When any of these lines are connected to a single pc, there is no problem regardless of the load put on it. We then put NAT on the leased line router and connected it directly to the LAN. It works without crashing. The only difference is speed. When connected through the firewall server, with full load in daytime, download of Ubuntu ISO takes about 1 to 2 hours. In the same conditions, when the LAN is directly connected to the router, it takes 5 to 6 hours. According to the ISP guys this is due to improper configuration of the firewall. I have discussed this with several people and they feel that a firewall cannot cause a router crash. One suggestion is that the router cannot handle the load - and that it is a hardware failure. Any one has had similar experiences? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/

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PPPOE related issues
by Devranjan Das 05 Apr '08

05 Apr '08

Hi I use PPPOE (default implementation that came with Ubuntu 7.04) to connect to my ISP. Everything was fine for last two years. But from last three days, I am not able use Internet. I tried using Windows where everything works fine with the same settings. On "ifconfig -a", it shows the ppp adapter. But when I enter the URL in the browser it says "looking for google.co.in". I am not able to ping the DNS server. I think that its not getting DNS response. When I run the pppoe configuration utility, it fetches the DNS server address from the ISP. My friend who uses the same ISP has also reported the same problem with Ubuntu 7.04. Can anybody help. -- Dev Ranjan Das Scientific Officer 'C' Laser and Plasma Technology Division Bhabha Atomic Research Centre Trombay, Mumbai - 400085 Phone: Office: 022-25595697 e-mail: devranjandas(a)gmail.com 513,Nilgiri, Anushaktinagar, Mumbai- 400094, Phone: 022-25572003 http://vision-2020.blogspot.com

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[Cross Posting] How the corrupt ones manipulate things
by Sudhir Gandotra 05 Apr '08

05 Apr '08

It is clear that they have manipulated and won an important round. Now, the only way is to make some Government/s appeal in the matter within 60 days, otherwise, the corrupt one wins this game. It may be worth trying an effort (in the form of a strong-focused campaign) wherein Linux users come together (virtually, to begin with) and educate various Governments. It will be a worthy cause to make this effort and also we test the strength of the community (with a view to improve it further as a result of this test). We need our world to be ours and we need to take it away from the corrupt ones. Shall we begin? ==================================================== Microsoft wins battle for OOXML approval http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1000000121,39378350,00.htm The International Organization for Standardization has officially approved Microsoft's OOXML specification as a standard. The news confirms documents leaked on Tuesday were genuine. Three-quarters of the "Principal Countries" involved in the vote gave their approval (at least two-thirds were needed) and just 14 percent of participating members of ISO and the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) disapproved (under a quarter was needed). According to ISO's Wednesday statement: "Subject to there being no formal appeals from ISO/IEC national bodies in the next two months, the International Standard will accordingly proceed to publication." Although there have been allegations of voting irregularities within some of the national standards bodies that in turn participated in the ISO vote, no national body has yet made a formal appeal to ISO. One prominent example had been an objection from Steve Pepper, the chairman of Standard Norge's joint technical committee, which he faxed directly to the ISO. In the letter, he claimed that 80 percent of the committee had been against the OOXML standard being passed — Norway officially recorded a vote of approval. However, a spokesperson for Standard Norge told ZDNet.co.uk on Wednesday that the organisation had not made a formal appeal to ISO, and did not intend to do so. "One of the committee members sent a fax to ISO about this matter, but he did that directly and not through us," the spokesperson said. A spokesperson for ISO confirmed on Wednesday that it had not yet received any formal objections to the OOXML voting process, and refused to comment on the reports of voting irregularities within national bodies. --- With best wishes for Unity in thinking, feeling and action. Sudhir Gandotra. 98-101-20918 You don't need violence to shake the world Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You www.humanistmovement.org

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and now is the time for hero worship
by Kenneth Gonsalves 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/heroes/default.mspx -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/

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Intro...
by Anshul Khandelwal 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

Hey there! I am new to this list, group and city so I thought I did just pop in and say hi! I am a slackware user... and I have been one since quite some time. I was looking through the website and either it hasn't been updated or this group hasn't met for quite some time or I missed something obvious. :) Is there a meeting planned anytime soon? Cheers, Anshul -- Anshul Khandelwal, Informm, Valuepitch, Bombay. www.informm.in http://valuepitch.com Home Page/openid: http://anshul.baboonlogic.com/ Blog: http://baboonlogic.com -- अंशुल खंडेलवाल

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Mention of Manoj Srivastav in `fortune'
by Mohan Nayaka 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

Hi, Just saw this when I ran `fortune': frodo@laptop-zion:~$ fortune Techical solutions are not a matter of voting. Two legislations in the US states almost decided that the value of Pi be 3.14, exactly. Popular vote does not make for a correct solution. -- Manoj Srivastava Regards, Mohan S N -- Perilous to all of us are the devices of an art deeper than we ourselves possess. -- Gandalf the Grey [J.R.R. Tolkien, "Lord of the Rings"]

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PHP Seminar on 6th April 2008
by Prashant Shah 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

More Details : http://elitemumbai.wordpress.com Please email me to confirm your registration.

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MS PR at work? --> Re: How the corrupt ones manipulate things
by Ravindra Jaju 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

Rediff had a _very_ short-lived front-page news item on ISO approval of OOXML. It immediately started attracting anti-OOXML comments, and they promptly relegated it to their backside... (no pun intended) (Devil's advocate) - MS PR managers at work? http://in.rediff.com/money/2008/apr/03ms.htm Given the quality of rediff news items, and those of comments on them, it's hard to convince oneself that moving this important news item away had nothing more to it. -- jaju

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How can I put the Source RPM file in installation disk of Fedora?
by Debarshi Ray 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

> Soruce RPM installed content into /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS directory. I want to > change that to /root's home directory, can I do that ? if yes then how can > i do that? One way to do that is to set custom values for %_topdir, %_sourcedir, %_specdir, %_srcrpmdir, %_builddir, and %_rpmdir in your ~/.rpmmacros file. eg., I use the following line: %_topdir /home/rishi/devel/redhat Ref: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-rpm2/ Cheers, Debarshi -- "From what we get, we can make a living; what we give, however, makes a life." -- Arthur Ashe

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How the corrupt ones manipulate things
by Venkatesh Hariharan 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: jtd <jtd(a)mtnl.net.in> > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:09:07 +0530 > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Cross Posting] How the corrupt ones manipulate > things - are we going to allow them to win ? Should we just keep quiet or > begin a global protest ? > On Saturday 29 March 2008 10:53 am, Sudhir Gandotra wrote: > > > The statement goes on to say that Danish Standards is changing its > > vote because "the 168 Danish comments have been adopted as changes > > to ISO/IEC DIS 29500 OOXML". > > What they did not tell you is that abstain = yes. And that email votes > count. Only that many of the abstainers never recieved any intimation > stating that abstain = yes. > > So in the bizzare M$ universe no with comments become yes, if the ecma > makes a comment - any comment - on your comment and abstain = yes and > you can change a no to yes BUT you turncoats cant change a yes to no. > > Get it. NO? aha that's what happens if you dont use M$. > The standard operating process of Microsoft has been: a) Stuff the committee with supporters (as happened in Pakistan and other countries) b) If that doesn't work and the committee says NO to OOXML then c) Complain to the ministries under which the committee works, threaten to withdraw investment, get proxies to file complaints etc. In India, I hear that they raised the issue with the Prime Minister's Office and the PM called for a meeting on this issue on Thursday. Apparently, the head of one of the software export houses (a VERY respected person) also sent a fax supporting OOXML *after* the committee had given its decision, trying to overturn India's NO vote. Someone should ask whether these companies represent India's interests on the BIS committee or are they protecting their dollar revenues? Venky

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How can I put the Source RPM file in installation disk of Fedora?
by Neelesh Gurjar 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

I have created Source RPM file and I want to put that in Fedora Installation Disk so that when I install Fedora it will install that file. How can I put that into installation disk of Fedora? Soruce RPM installed content into /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS directory. I want to change that to /root's home directory, can I do that ? if yes then how can i do that? -- Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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[Cross Post] Are you a Debian user?
by Kartik Mistry 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Hi, Please give your feedback as a Debian user after reading this mail, http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/03/msg02475.html Thanks! -- Cheers, Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_ Blogs: {ftbfs,kartikm}.wordpress.com

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Issue in RHEL Clustering in Failover Domain
by Neelesh Gurjar 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hi, I have setup Redhat cluster and Failover Domains. 1. How can I setup Apache as a Failover service ? 2. In that do I have to create one unique Virtual IP on both servers and share that IP as resource ? or Redhat Cluster suit will create that IP virtually ? So from outside that IP will get http request. -- Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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Testing
by Rony 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hello Hello Hello Mike Testing 1 2 3 4 5 Hello Hello. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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[Cross Posting] How the corrupt ones manipulate things - are we going to allow them to win ? Should we just keep quiet or begin a global protest ?
by Sudhir Gandotra 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1000000121,39375179,00.htm Denmark changes OOXML vote to 'yes' Denmark has decided to back Microsoft's Office Open XML document format, reversing its previous disapproval and bringing the format closer to fast-track approval by the International Organization for Standardization. According to a Friday statement on the website of Danish Standards (the Danish equivalent of the British Standards Institution, or BSI), the country's previous vote of "disapproval with comments" on the original draft of the OOXML standard has now been changed to a vote of "approval". The statement goes on to say that Danish Standards is changing its vote because "the 168 Danish comments have been adopted as changes to ISO/IEC DIS 29500 OOXML". Denmark's change of vote enables OOXML to pass one of two criteria to becoming a standard — that fewer than 25 percent of the large group of bodies "observing" the process disapprove. However, OOXML is still three short of the positive votes required amongst the 32 standards bodies "participating" in the process. Some of these are wavering, however. It is known that the technical committee advising Britain's BSI has changed its recommendation, meaning Britain may also change its vote from "no" to "yes". However, BSI has refused to say whether its policy group will adopt a "yes" position, until after the deadline of midnight on Saturday. --- With best wishes for Unity in thinking, feeling and action. Sudhir Gandotra. 98-101-20918 IIPL: B-220/2, 2nd Fl., Savitri Nagar, Malviya Nagar, New Delhi 110017, India Phone : +91-11-26014670, 71, 72. Fax : +91-11-26014672 OpenLX Linux OS, Linux Training, Support, Services, Product Development Affordable Business Desktop @ Just Rs. 500/- : http://kalculate.com/piracy.php http://www.openlx.com/openlx.html - FOSS award 2008 winner Linux from India http://www.efytimes.com/efytimes/24867/news.htm http://openlx.com/features.html - OpenLX Linux features You don't need violence to shake the world Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You www.humanistmovement.org

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ldconfig: Cannot lstat .....libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0: Permission denied
by Agnello George 30 Mar '08

30 Mar '08

I am tring to install LAMP on fedora core 7 i have installed mysql ( mysql-5.0.45 ) ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mysql --localstatedir=/usr/local/mysql/data --disable-maintainer-mode --with-mysqld-user=mysql --enable-large-files-without-debug make && make install and every thing went fine inorder to tell the system where ro find the dynamic libraries i added echo "/usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql" >> /etc/ld.so.conf when i ran the following command it gave me the this error # ldconfig [root@v3 bin]# ldconfig -v ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15: Permission denied/usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql: ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so: Permission denied ldconfig: Cannot lstat /usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0: Permission denied the permission in this direcory is as follows : [root@v3 bin]# ll /usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql/ total 2384 -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 12376 2008-03-29 20:18 libdbug.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 48896 2008-03-29 20:18 libheap.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 369964 2008-03-29 20:18 libmyisam.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 27578 2008-03-29 20:18 libmyisammrg.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 641264 2008-03-29 20:18 libmysqlclient.a -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mysql 875 2008-03-29 20:18 libmysqlclient.la lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2008-03-29 20:18 libmysqlclient.so -> libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2008-03-29 20:18 libmysqlclient.so.15 -> libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mysql 530840 2008-03-29 20:18 libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 289666 2008-03-29 20:18 libmystrings.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 315422 2008-03-29 20:18 libmysys.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 7582 2008-03-29 20:18 libvio.a -rw-r--r-- 1 root mysql 89036 2008-03-29 20:18 libz.a -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mysql 761 2008-03-29 20:18 libz.la can some one help me out why i am getting this Premission denied error Thanks a million!! -- Regards Agnello Dsouza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Avoid Intel motherboards
by Debarshi Ray 27 Mar '08

27 Mar '08

>> We work around it but is the BIOS not the culprit in such cases? I am >> not saying that GNU won't load on these machines. > GNU will not load on *any* machine - you need a kernel for that As a matter of fact, GNU *does* load, and I happen to use a couple of such machines. Cheerio, Debarshi -- "From what we get, we can make a living; what we give, however, makes a life." -- Arthur Ashe

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml
by Arun Khan 27 Mar '08

27 Mar '08

How have the other countries', equivalent BIS organization, voted? -- Arun Khan

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Multimedia and Bluetooth in Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy)
by Rony Bill 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

Hello All, Till Kubuntu 7.04, multimedia support for audio and video was added post installation by simply installing the package 'libxine-extracodecs' and 'libdvdcss'. Now in Kubuntu 7.10 gutsy, the package libxine-extracodecs is no longer present. The website https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/RC/Kubuntumentions a package called 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' to be installed for multimedia support. I had already installed 'libdvdcss' and 'w32codecs' but Kaffeine would not play avi and mp4 files. VLC player was playing these files but I could not control brightness and contrast in VLC. After installing the package 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' via apt, I am able to play these files in Kaffeine too. For bluetooth in Kubuntu 7.10, nothing has to be installed. simply run 'sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start' and it will start the service and place the bluetooth icon in the system tray. The bluetooth adapter was the 'Enter' one which I had bought recently. I tried a nokia N82 phone. I double-clicked on the bluetooth icon in the taskbar and Konqueror opened up with an icon of a wired telephone handset and n82 as its label. To enter this I had to set a password in the mobile and in the popup window on computer. Then on clicking 'OBEX File Transfer' I got 2 folders C and E. C was the mobile's memory and E was the external 2 GB memory. Every time I tried to enter a folder, the phone would ask whether to accept the connection or not. To eliminate that, the computer was 'authorised' in the phone's settings. Connection speed is 45 to 50 Kbytes/sec only but this may be a limitation of the phone's hardware. I haven't tried it in windows. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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should I use ubuntu 64 bit with a t5500 core2 intel processor?
by krishnakant Mane 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

hello, this is not really directly related to accessibility but perhaps may be a problem as such. I have a machine with intel core2 duo (sentrino ) t5500 processor with 1.6 ghz/2 specification. is this a genuan 64 bit processor? should I use ubuntu 64 bit with all t5500 core2 processors for optimul performance?

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FLOSS in schools... a syllabi for the Third Standard (eight/nine-year-old) student from India
by Frederick Noronha [फ़र ेदरिक नोर ोनया] 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

Free software in schools. Download this from here http://www.divshare.com/download/4053521-61e >From Farida Umrani <mailtofarida(a)gmail.com> I am working with Prof. Sridhar Iyer at Dept of Computer Science, IIT Bombay on content development for school computer science based on Edubuntu . We will have the content for elementary class ready in 2008. I am sending you a draft of a textbook for class I (the file is bulky; hence split and send in two mails). [DOWNLOAD FROM URL ABOVE] At present, I am implementing this curriculum in one of the pilot schools. We have included Scratch as a programming language for students in Grade 3 & 4. Currently we are focusing on elementary classes and plan to scale it up in the next academic year. We are facing difficulties in getting the teachers familiar with open source. Most schools do not have a system administrator or even a regular Internet connection to get the regular updates and prefer an installable CD that gives them everything. But to a windows user, this does not appear intuitive and hence they are put off by it. I wanted to know about your experience with Goa schools? I have read that GCSP trained engineering students and teachers. Did these students help the local schools? We announced a training program for school teachers, but got poor response and therefore deferred it. Did you face similar problems? How did you deal with them? I myself have a Psychology background... and it has taken me several hours of work and reading up the forums to understand the installation and getting all the dependencies right. However, what is encouraging is that students have received the open source applications very well. I hope to learn from your experience at Goa. -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Ym/Gmailtalk: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | fred(a)bytesforall.org Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9970157402 ----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml
by Arun Khan 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

> Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:18:07 +0530 > From: "Nishit Dave" <stargazer.dave(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 9:11 PM, krishnakant Mane > <researchbase(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > I went through the editorial. > > one more point which struck me was that it creates an impression > > that this is a "proxy for product war " > > which means all those who supported odf also had some selfish > > marketing gains. > > here we should note that people like Dr. Nagarjun have helped this > > cause due to no "marketing of product " aim. > > secondly the tone of the editorial also talks about the licensing > > cost issue and has not really emphasised on the "freedom aspect " > > which implies freedom to encript and decript the data by any one > > who wishes to do so. > > it uses words like "negociations for license costs ", correct me if > > I am remembering wrong but although my quoting might not be word to > > word correct, the tone of the article is towards saying that odf is > > for those who care about the cost of licensing and it talks nothing > > much about freedom. > > Yes, I forgot to mention that. One more reason to believe they are > reading out of Microsoft's PR briefs. Can we work upon drafting a > letter to the editor as the GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai? Please take the lead. IMO, the commentaries here are good **but** the Business Standard (BS) editors and readership do *not see* them unless it is posted on the BS site. Pls. register and post your comments there. The more the better. -- Arun Khan

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BIS committee votes against ooxml
by Nagarjuna G. 25 Mar '08

25 Mar '08

India's BIS votes against ooxml. out of 19 members, five of them did not attend the meeting, one of them abstained, five voted in favor of ooxml, and the rest voted against. -- Nagarjuna G. http://www.gnowledge.org/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Avoid Intel motherboards
by Arun Khan 24 Mar '08

24 Mar '08

On Wednesday 19 Mar 2008, linuxers-request(a)mm.glug-bom.org wrote: > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:25:36 +0530 > From: "Dinesh Joshi" <dinesh.a.joshi(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Avoid Intel motherboards > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Rony <gnulinuxist(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > If anyone of you is planning to buy a system or a new motherboard > > then avoid Intel original ones like plague. They take more than a > > month to simply pick up boards in warranty and their communication > > channels are pathetic. My colleagues and I have some warranty > > boards lying with us for more than a month and they have yet to be > > picked up by Intel. Their service is too bad. > > Well, atleast Intel has a service. For GNU/Linux users, AMD Boards > should be ideally avoided like plague ;) Anyway, must be a temporary > thing. It wasn't that bad about a year ago... Any particular brand mobos for the AMD cpus? The OP identified Intel manufactured mobos, not all manufacturers of mobos for the Intel family. -- Arun Khan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml
by Arun Khan 24 Mar '08

24 Mar '08

> Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:58:17 +0530 > From: "Ravindra Jaju" <ravindra.jaju(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml .... snip ... > If someone drafts a letter to BS (wow! it indeed did write BS, no?), > please post here and count me as one of the supporters when you send! > I have posted my comment on the site <http://www.business-standard.com/common/news_article.php?tab=r&autono=31779…> Unless you send in *your own comments* directly to BS no one there will know about your views on their editorial. -- Arun Khan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml
by Arun Khan 24 Mar '08

24 Mar '08

> Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:06:49 +0530 > From: "Nishit Dave" <stargazer.dave(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] BIS committee votes against ooxml ... snip ... > > The editorial in Business Standard today again seems to speak from > Microsoft's point of view, and calls OOXML an already existing > standard!! As an interested group, we should write to them (and > other newspapers) and strongly represent our point of view. > > Any takers? Such declarations in an editorial column is unprofessional. Pls. give link to the online version (if possible) and the email address "letter to the editor", and let's all write to editor. -- Arun Khan

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ps -ef | grep nobody ???
by Pradnyesh Sawant 24 Mar '08

24 Mar '08

Hello, today I noticed heavy disk utilization. I did top to find this:- ********************************************************************** nobody 10204 10203 6 10:06 ? 00:00:05 /usr/bin/find / -ignore_readdir_race ( -fstype NFS -o -fstype nfs -o -fstype nfs4 -o -fstype ********************************************************************** can somebody kindly throw some light on this _nobody_ and what is he doing on my m/c? thanks a lot in advance :) -- warm regards, Pradnyesh Sawant -- In a day, when you don't come across any problems -- you can be sure that you are travelling in a wrong path. --Swami Vivekananda

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PHP Seminar on Sunday 30th March 2008
by Prashant Shah 23 Mar '08

23 Mar '08

Details : http://elite.wikidot.com Please email me to confirm your registration (only few seats are there)

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Out of the box drivers (Was [OT] Avoid Intel motherboards)
by Arun Khan 23 Mar '08

23 Mar '08

On Friday 21 Mar 2008, jtd wrote: > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:22:50 +0530 > From: jtd <jtd(a)mtnl.net.in> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Avoid Intel motherboards > > On Friday 21 March 2008 11:58 am, Arun Khan wrote: > > On Thursday 20 Mar 2008, linuxers-request(a)mm.glug-bom.org wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:18:11 +0530 > > > From: jtd <jtd(a)mtnl.net.in> > > > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Avoid Intel motherboards > > > > ...... snip ..... > > > > > AMD is any day a better bet as far as drivers go. They have > > > opened the specs to the cpu, chipset and the 3d graphics engine > > > as well. Only a matter of time before you have full 3d support on > > > all AMD chipsets. ... snip ... > > About 18 months ago, when I was researching Linux compatibility for > > a notebook purchase. Intel chipset based models were the best bet. > > > > All major Linux distros - everything worked out of the box (WiFi, > > 3D graphics). > > Afaik the intel chipsets have relatively pathetic 3d. Maybe for the power user *but* for the average desktop user, the out of the box compiz-fusion 3D experience is plenty. I have not seen any discernable difference compared to ATI or NVidia (prop. drivers). Other posts have similar comments. > > Whereas on a HP AMD Turion notebook of same vintage (ATI chipset), > > even today I have to opt for downloading prop. drivers to get full > > 3D. > > A dell laptop with AMD turion worked out of the box with etch about 8 > months ago. 2D or 3D? Which ATI chipset? In my case, it is ATI Radeon Express 200M. I have no issues with 2D. Indeed, most Linux distros install on it. To the best of my knowledge, even today I have to download ATI prop. drivers to get 3D support. It is the only way to get compiz-fusion working on it :) ... snip ... > > The specs for the older chipsets have not been released (for reasons > best known to AMD). But specs for the newer chipsets have been The reason is on their web site <http://ati.amd.com/products/catalyst/linux.html#4> > released. One would have to check which chipsets before buying. Most Linux'ers do check for compatibility but one cannot expect the average end user to break their head on such issues. For clients (office desktops), I suggest hardware that has the most "out of box" drivers in the current Linux distros, not something that will have support in the future. IMO, Intel chipsets have an edge over AMD. > Afaik only newer mobos not yet available in India (for desktops) have > these chipsets. But then who needs 3d on a server. Great, the latest GPUs from AMD will have "out of box" 3D drivers (full functionality compared to windows drivers) in the Linux distros released in the future but the poor souls who have earlier ATI/AMD GPUs still have to deal with prop. drivers. Perhaps this is OK for a onezy or twozy desktops but to support several desktops this could be a nightmare. Agree, don't need 3d on servers (even for MS Windows server edition) but it is the mobo manufacturers who are putting it - maybe the incremental cost between a generic and a 3d chipset is marginal at their volumes. > While everyone would like 3D now, it would be a little longer with X, Now - yes, absolutely. For Linux to grow on the desktop segment, this is a must. I have demo'd compiz-fusion @ colleges, to fellow passengers on flights and trains and they have been wowed. At least, those individuals are now aware of a Linux desktop. > given that this is the first time that 3d engine specs have been > released at all. First time by AMD - their competitor has an edge on this. Case history - 2 months ago a friend bought a high end Sony VAIO notebook (intel chip set) - installed Debian and everything worked out of the box (3D, Webcam, WiFi, card reader, bluetooth) - he is a happy camper. His earlier notebook (mobo crashed) was AMD64 with SiS chipset (no 3d support at all) and he had to use ndiswrapper to get his WiFi working. For the new purchase, the competitive notebooks with AMD Turion either had ATI or NVidia GPUs requiring prop. drivers for 3D. I evaluate the best "out of box" driver support be it AMD or Intel and go with it. -- Arun Khan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Avoid Intel motherboards
by Arun Khan 23 Mar '08

23 Mar '08

On Thursday 20 Mar 2008, linuxers-request(a)mm.glug-bom.org wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:18:11 +0530 > From: jtd <jtd(a)mtnl.net.in> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Avoid Intel motherboards ...... snip ..... > > AMD is any day a better bet as far as drivers go. They have opened > the specs to the cpu, chipset and the 3d graphics engine as well. > Only a matter of time before you have full 3d support on all AMD > chipsets. ...... snip ..... It has been about a year+ (?) since AMD acquired ATI, and we still have "prop." drivers for the ATI chips. About 18 months ago, when I was researching Linux compatibility for a notebook purchase. Intel chipset based models were the best bet. All major Linux distros - everything worked out of the box (WiFi, 3D graphics). Whereas on a HP AMD Turion notebook of same vintage (ATI chipset), even today I have to opt for downloading prop. drivers to get full 3D. For the majority of end users (open to embrace Linux) should we tell them to wait or get something that works today? -- Arun Khan

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by agnello george 22 Mar '08

22 Mar '08

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[ Cross Post ] Google Summer of Code '08
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 19 Mar '08

19 Mar '08

Hi, Its time for Google Summer of Code '08. Many of you are already following it. But just a reminder and a friendly poke incase you forgot all about it. Of course, KDE will be there like previous years. Check [1] for more details. As a student, all you need is some enthusiasm, willingness to contribute to KDE and Free Software in general. Knowledge of C++ is almost taken for granted in KDE GSoC. Knowledge of Qt/KDE/PyQt framework and programming is a definite ( huge ) plus. If you are already a contributing code to some KDE application, firstly you r0ck, nextly you did yourself a huge favour and have HUGE PLUS-PLUS :). It also works if you have been sending in patches regularly. So if you are one of them, DO submit a proposal. There is a nice *idea* page on the KDE techbase page [2]. Feel free to browse through that and find something that you like or you might be able to pull off. *Strong recommendation* - Please be creative and write your own project proposal. Nothing impresses mentors more than your own enthusiasm to do something uber cool for the project. It is million times better if you write your own project proposal - may be even your own idea that is not there in the idea page which you think might be a cool feature / addition to KDE - instead of copying something from the idea page. Its a idea page after all and not a proposal template page ;). Please read [3] about certain instructions of participations in KDE GSoC. I repeat, please read [3] before applying. It is very detailed and will mostly answer a lot of your questions and will help you frame your proposal in much better way. Last year KDE GSoC participation [4] [5] was really wonderful. It got 40 projects sanctioned by Google which probably was the largest allocation among all the participating projects. There were 213 proposals submitted to Google and 40 were allocated. 3 of those 40 students were Indians, you have ask them about their experiences. I am very sure that they have good things to talk about the same. Since I have met Piyush and Sharan many times in recent past after the SoC '07, I know for sure that they ( and Anirrudh, the third guy ) loved the whole experience and had a blast. Looking forward to your proposal. Good luck. [1]http://code.google.com/soc/2008/kde/about.html [2]http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Summer_of_Code/2008/Ideas [3]http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Summer_of_Code/2008/Part… [4]http://dot.kde.org/1176336589/ [5]http://code.google.com/soc/2007/kde/about.html Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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[OT] Avoid Intel motherboards
by Rony 19 Mar '08

19 Mar '08

Hello All, If anyone of you is planning to buy a system or a new motherboard then avoid Intel original ones like plague. They take more than a month to simply pick up boards in warranty and their communication channels are pathetic. My colleagues and I have some warranty boards lying with us for more than a month and they have yet to be picked up by Intel. Their service is too bad. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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FLOSS in schools... a syllabi for the Third Standard (eight/nine-year-old) student from India
by Frederick Noronha [फ़र ेदरिक नोर ोनया] 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

Free software in schools. Download this from here http://www.divshare.com/download/4053521-61e From Farida Umrani <mailtofarida(a)gmail.com> I am working with Prof. Sridhar Iyer at Dept of Computer Science, IIT Bombay on content development for school computer science based on Edubuntu . We will have the content for elementary class ready in 2008. I am sending you a draft of a textbook for class I (the file is bulky; hence split and send in two mails). [DOWNLOAD FROM URL ABOVE] At present, I am implementing this curriculum in one of the pilot schools. We have included Scratch as a programming language for students in Grade 3 & 4. Currently we are focusing on elementary classes and plan to scale it up in the next academic year. We are facing difficulties in getting the teachers familiar with open source. Most schools do not have a system administrator or even a regular Internet connection to get the regular updates and prefer an installable CD that gives them everything. But to a windows user, this does not appear intuitive and hence they are put off by it. I wanted to know about your experience with Goa schools? I have read that GCSP trained engineering students and teachers. Did these students help the local schools? We announced a training program for school teachers, but got poor response and therefore deferred it. Did you face similar problems? How did you deal with them? I myself have a Psychology background... and it has taken me several hours of work and reading up the forums to understand the installation and getting all the dependencies right. However, what is encouraging is that students have received the open source applications very well. I hope to learn from your experience at Goa. -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Ym/Gmailtalk: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | fred(a)bytesforall.org Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9970157402 ----------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [LIG] [LONG] [RANT] Ubuntu and Quality
by Debarshi Ray 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

> As for using Ubuntu on a server, I concur with other posts. Ditto for > the "community" versions sponsored by the commercial linux distros. Leaving aside Ubuntu, what other distributions are you (that can be anyone on this list) referring to? Specific bug reports, Bugzilla or GNATS entries? Cheers, Debarshi -- "From what we get, we can make a living; what we give, however, makes a life." -- Arthur Ashe

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [LIG] [LONG] [RANT] Ubuntu and Quality
by Arun Khan 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

On Monday 17 Mar 2008, linuxers-request(a)mm.glug-bom.org wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:05:30 +0530 > From: Rony <gnulinuxist(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [LIG] [LONG] [RANT] Ubuntu and Quality .... snip ... > I have used Ubuntu's many versions, from 5.10 onwards and they do > whats expected of them. I hardly update them and if so, just after > the installation, when the system is still fresh and not customized. > Another way is to keep the net running so the latest packages get > installed during the main installation itself. After that the door is > closed for further updates. I never upgrade a distro. I prefer to > clean install a newer version if necessary. .... snip ... The above philosophy may work for a desktop setup in a "closed" LAN. For a server visible on the 'Net this is not an option. If it is running a service that needs to be patched with a security fix - it needs to be patched. Otherwise face the consequences of a compromised box. As for using Ubuntu on a server, I concur with other posts. Ditto for the "community" versions sponsored by the commercial linux distros. -- Arun Khan

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17 Mar '08

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[LONG] [RANT] Ubuntu and Quality Control
by Raj Mathur 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

First thing yesterday morning: urgent IM message from Suresh Ramasubramanian (hoster of this mailing list): Mailman is down, can you help? OK, so we start investigating his box. He has upgraded Python2.4 to Python2.5, and applied a Mailman security patch package. However, whenever we try to access the page, the server barfs. On to server logs -- syntax error in one of the Mailman support files. Right, I can understand an upgrade causing logical errors, but a SYNTAX ERROR!??!? Nah, I must be missing something, so I look all over the 2 upgrades. Switch back to Python2.4 from Python2.5, no joy. Recompile all the Mailman files from scratch, no joy. Recompile the Ubuntu Mailman package from source and reinstall it, no joy. Bang head against wall, no joy. Finally, desperate, I start comparing Mailman files on Suresh' server against Mailman installed on other servers. While they are different versions of Mailman, I do notice one anomaly: where one file has: mlist.subject_prefix = Utils.canonstr( val, mlist.preferred_language) <- *** Note this line *** elif property == 'info': Suresh' server has: mlist.subject_prefix = Utils.canonstr( elif property == 'info': Saying, `no, no, it can't be!' I insert the missing line into the file on the broken machine, cross fingers, eyes, legs, etc and restart Mailman. It works! [Shift to today] Ubuntu issues a security notice that says, in effect, ``We screwed up with the previous Mailman patch, so here's the latest and greatest version of Mailman, and this one really, Really, REALLY works! Believe us!''. I don't believe them. In the past 6 months Ubuntu has issues 80 new security advisories. For those 80 advisories, they have issued no less than SEVEN regressions (a regression is a patch to fix a broken patch). A near-10% regression rate sends only one message to me -- we can't be bothered with doing any quality control before we release packages. Before Ubuntu came onto the scene, I didn't even /know/ what a regression was. Today it's a common word in my lexicon, because of Ubuntu's pathetic testing and quality control process (or lack of process, more likely). An operating system vendor who issues a package with a syntax error (so that the package doesn't even start up, leave alone do something wrong), is a pure crap snake oil vendor in my book. So, the question: will I trust Ubuntu on an Internet-connected system? Nah. Will I trust Ubuntu on a server? Er, please excuse me while I finishing laughing hysterically! Use Debian or CentOS or any of those reasonably tested other distributions for your boxes, and when someone asks you to use Ubuntu, in the immortal words of Fancy Raygun, ``Just Say No!''. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur raju(a)kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology & Software || February 2008 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves

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script to start process automatically
by Agnello George 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

i am trying to write a script on my *test machine *to check if the process are running , and if they are not need to start them any idea why this is not working ?? #!/bin/sh -x SERVICES= `ls -la /etc/init.d/ |awk '{print $9 }' |sed -e 's/[^[:alnum:]]//g'` for i in $SERVICES do if [ $(ps -aux|grep -v grep |grep $i |wc -l) != 0 ]; then . /etc/init.d/$i start else echo " the service $i is running " fi done -- Regards Agnello Dsouza

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [LIG] [ilugd] [LONG] [RANT] Ubuntu and Quality Control
by Raj Mathur 16 Mar '08

16 Mar '08

On Sunday 16 Mar 2008, Justin Moore wrote: > Why are you using Ubuntu for production servers? Look how many major > releases they have had vs. Debian, or RHEL. They push out the latest > version of the software as fast as possible because that is what > their user base wants. That's why I use Ubuntu on my desktops. But > they can't possibly keep the same quality control on such a release > cyle. For production servers I use Debian, except when a client > requires enterprise support, then I use RHEL. I suggest the same. It's possible that Ubuntu isn't meant to be a server distribution (but in that case they shouldn't have a Ubuntu server version). Regardless, it is completely irresponsible to make a package available for download that did not get even one command's worth of testing after packaging. A simple /etc/init.d/mailman restart after installing the new package would have shown that mailman wasn't working. Please note that this is not some error condition that only surfaces under some weird combination of environments or events. Whatever your hardware or software configuration, whatever applications you are running, whatever network connectivity (or lack) you have, merely starting up the newly-installed mailman would have failed. Whether desktop or server, a distribution that permits the release of an Internet-service package without even that one, basic command is broken beyond repair IMNSHO. Ubuntu needs to make a package testing and release policy real quick. The next time it could be a security patch to Firefox that gets messed up, and then we'll have millions of cracked Ubuntu systems merrily spamming away. Before something like that happens, it would be better if Ubuntu just withdrew gracefully from the list of Linux distributions. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur raju(a)kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology & Software || February 2008 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves

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GSoC GNU project
by Nagarjuna G. 16 Mar '08

16 Mar '08

GNU is participating again in the GSoC project. we encourage free software hackers to consider contributing and spending this summer mentoring or joining this event this summer. project ideas are listed at: http://www.gnu.org/software/soc-projects/ideas.html -- Nagarjuna G. http://www.gnowledge.org/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] .. Re: .. linux boot process query
by jtd 16 Mar '08

16 Mar '08

On Friday 14 March 2008 11:56 pm, Agnello George wrote: > > Grub is almost an os with a shell and fs reader. once stage2 is > > loaded it can recognise partitions and most filesystems. > > So let me guess when we install linux we have the follow in the > partition table > > in hd0 > we have > / > /boot > swap > > and hd1 > we have > / > /boot > swap > > and in hd0 we have the grub.conf file located in > /boot/grub/grub.conf > > and in hd1 we have the grub.conf file located in > /boot/grub/grub.conf > > so ultimately which conf file is read ?? only the grub.conf from the grub root partition you specified when installing grub, which is different from your distro root partition. eg. at the grub shell you do root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) this will setup grub in hd0 mbr and read menu.lst (the default grub menu file) from hd0,0/boot/grub/menu.lst, in which you will have entries like root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 yak yak #kernel from /dev/hda1 boot root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 yak yak # kernel from /dev/hda2/ boot root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-latest root=/dev/hda2 #kernel from /dev/hda1 with root file system from hda2. u better have all modules compiled in or a copy of (/dev/hda1)/lib/2.xx.yy/ in (/dev/hda2)/lib And ofcourse you can boot any combo of disks n partitions from the grub shell -- Rgds JTD

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[OT] Vista Simplified
by Rony 15 Mar '08

15 Mar '08

Hello All, Read the interesting article on Vista. http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Client.asp?Daily=TOIM&login=default&… Click on broadband and navigate to page 25 -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] .. linux boot process query
by jtd 15 Mar '08

15 Mar '08

On Friday 14 March 2008 07:15 pm, Agnello George wrote: > > now suppose i have Two OS install -- debian Etch and the centos > ...and grub is the default boot loader ( and grub file is located > in /etc/grub.conf ..which has instruction / menu screen for booting > the various OS ) but i don't seem to understand one thing - How is > /etc/grub.conf made available to the boot loader even before a OS > is selected ( explanation not very clear in the article ) Grub is almost an os with a shell and fs reader. once stage2 is loaded it can recognise partitions and most filesystems. > > -- > Regards > Agnello Dsouza > www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com -- Rgds JTD

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linux boot process query
by Agnello George 15 Mar '08

15 Mar '08

Hi I was just Reading the article from http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/howlinuxworks/linux_hlbootproc.html in the article before the system can boot the BIOS detect the first available IDE device, on this device is the MBR which contain the boot loader and partition tables now suppose i have Two OS install -- debian Etch and the centos ...and grub is the default boot loader ( and grub file is located in /etc/grub.conf ..which has instruction / menu screen for booting the various OS ) but i don't seem to understand one thing - How is /etc/grub.conf made available to the boot loader even before a OS is selected ( explanation not very clear in the article ) -- Regards Agnello Dsouza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com

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[OT] Vista Simplified
by Rony 13 Mar '08

13 Mar '08

Hello All, Read the interesting article on Vista. http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Client.asp?Daily=TOIM&login=default&… -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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unknow ip addresses in squid.log
by Agnello George 13 Mar '08

13 Mar '08

I have configured a squid server that allows a IP range of 192.168.0.XX to surf the internet , but in the logs i see a lot of public IP address, how is this possibly happening ???? Bellow is the logs !!! ##################################################################################### 1205406926.776 255 192.168.0.101 TCP_MISS/200 438 GET http://mail.google.com/mail/images/cleardot.gif? - DIRECT/209.85.153.83 image/gif 1205406926.780 6 219.254.32.113 TCP_DENIED/403 4197 CONNECT 203.141.160.33:25 - NONE/- text/html 1205406926.812 1680 124.115.0.175 TCP_MISS/200 21162 GET http://www.soso.com/q? - DIRECT/60.28.232.146 text/html 1205406926.900 575 89.149.242.226 TCP_MISS/200 894 POST http://www.glookle.com/usr/proxy/checker5/check.php - DIRECT/89.149.242.226 text/html 1205406927.017 852 71.228.204.50 TCP_MISS/999 5104 GET http://n2.login.scd.yahoo.com/config/pwtoken_get? - DIRECT/209.73.168.34 text/html 1205406927.063 868 84.187.189.180 TCP_MISS/302 381 HEAD http://cl-erotic.com/members/ - DIRECT/78.108.179.136 text/html 1205406927.075 0 222.233.52.156 TCP_DENIED/403 4197 CONNECT 65.54.244.40:25 - NONE/- text/html 1205406927.079 3783 217.126.54.234 TCP_MISS/200 279 CONNECT login.icq.com:443 - DIRECT/64.12.200.89 - 1205406927.093 18 221.139.1.162 TCP_DENIED/403 4197 CONNECT 202.108.5.253:25 - NONE/- text/html 1205406927.128 314 192.168.0.101 TCP_MISS/200 353 POST http://mail.google.com/mail/? - DIRECT/209.85.153.83 text/html 1205406927.169 17 221.139.1.162 TCP_DENIED/403 4197 CONNECT 202.18.170.10:25 - NONE/- text/html 1205406927.196 575 192.168.0.170 TCP_MISS/200 462 GET http://livehelp.qualispace.com/pull/requests.php? - DIRECT/67.15.197.19 text/html 1205406927.249 572 192.168.0.73 TCP_MISS/200 367 GET http://livehelp.qualispace.com/image_tracker.php? - DIRECT/67.15.197.19 image/gif ############################################################################################## can some one help me with this Agnello

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[OT]: Old Hardware recycling
by Roshan 13 Mar '08

13 Mar '08

All, I have an old CD-ROM and a non-functional CD-Writer, which fails invariably and tends to freeze my system randomly. Are there locations in Mumbai, which recycle this ? Or could it be put to some other good use (the motor for rotating the wheels of a robot car?) Similarly, I have a few CDs which cannot be used any longer. (few old Ubuntu CDs). How can they be recycled, if they can be at all. A few months ago, I did search for a few on justdial dot com and queried them over email (since they listed it). However, I haven't got any response from anyone, hence the query to the list. This has nothing to do with FOSS, but I hope, I haven't digressed too far.

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squid : unable to browse few sites
by Agnello George 13 Mar '08

13 Mar '08

HI I have a squid server at my work place which i maintain, i really have not issues with it except withe following few sites. I try to access these sites through the maxthon or IE browser but i am unable to browse . There is no error on the sqid server logs. Do i need to flush the cache to resolve this issue . All other sites i am able to browse. http://90.supersite.myorderbox.com http://90.partnersite.myorderbox.com http://95.partnersite.myorderbox.com http://95.supersite.myorderbox.com does any one have any idea why ? <http://www.dotster.com/> thanks !! :-) -- Regards Agnello Dsouza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com www.bible-study-india.blogspot.com

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[Cross post] custom Ubuntu for Dell notebooks
by Arun Khan 12 Mar '08

12 Mar '08

FWIW, custom Ubuntu iso for Dell notebooks. http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_7.10 -- Arun Khan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linuxers Digest, Vol 59, Issue 4
by Fitzerald sylvester 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

hi guys, any web promotion tricks using free software gnu/linux ? warm regards F.J.Sylvester -- F.J.Sylvester ---------------------------------------------------- Connect Computer Service Cellular Phone : 9860165647 Use GNU / Linux System ---------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] .. opensource application similar to Tally ??
by jtd 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

On Saturday 08 March 2008 05:56 pm, Agnello George wrote: > HI > > I would like to know if there is any account software similar to > Tally According to those who know Tally is the worst possible software you could use to manage your accounting. Search for Saswata and KG's post on this list. -- Rgds JTD

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] is SEO unethical -- going much OT now :)
by Ravindra Jaju 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)au-kbc.org> wrote: > > > > Both are related. Increase in business is an absolute goal for most. > > Being near the top in google results _gets_ you more business, > > anecdotally > > speaking. It's one of the aspects for most online businesses > > so which comes first? the chicken or the egg? the aim of a search > engine is to rank the sites according to some criteria - I assume > usefulness and popularity would be the main criteria. So if your site > is useful and popular, it will rank high - and you will get more > business (but only if you remain useful and popular). If only it were so simple. This is already a quite a bit OT, and going into details would be stretching it too far (and I have stretched a bit - see below) But you can look for some guidelines from google itself: http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=35769 SEO has acquired a bad connotation due to unscrupulous elements, as can be seen from the tone of: http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=35291 But, the first link (above) is what 'good' SEO-ers will do. As a very simple example, if you have a page with many advertisements/partner links (needed for business), and useful content of your own, then one SEO guideline would be to use a (non-standard, but search-engine recognized?) "nofollow" attribute within the URL tags. Or, to have better sitemaps. Else, the number of outlinks on a page would drain your "rank" into those external ad/partner links, reducing your own estates' pageranks. Another example: search for "subversion" on google.com. and see what additional information you see along with the first result. See the various categories "found" on subversion's website. These are the kinds of things "good" SEO should help you do. It helps both the business, and search engines. Search engines aren't _exactly_ as intelligent as we would want to believe! They put in place some logic to be "more useful" (this example), and then more people start making sure their pages are designed in a way google will "extract" structure from... Best wishes, jaju

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Accounting Software for Linux
by Ashwin Shah 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

Hi I am very much interested in LInux However i run a business and am not one of the techies who is only taking abount the greatness of opensource Business requires ready made and strong fundamentals of any platform The Linux forum should change their approach from promoting open source to talking about making things simpler to the man on the streets A typical small business requires the following to cover 99% of its needs 1) An operating system 2) Open office 3) Accounting software india compliant And remember there is no way to by pass Microsoft hence all the persons who do not use linux must still get all reports and comunication which can still be compatible to Windows and Microdsoft or the other leading companies who offer thier software viz autocad/adobe etc I wish the LInux platform comes forward and promotes all these together and takes up a challenge of converting ( let us say 25000 ) businesses in 2008 Thanks Ashwin R Shah

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] is SEO unethical [Highly OT]
by Ravindra Jaju 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Nishit Dave <stargazer.dave(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Ravindra Jaju <ravindra.jaju(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Both are related. Increase in business is an absolute goal for most. > > Being near the top in google results _gets_ you more business, anecdotally > > speaking. It's one of the aspects for most online businesses. Google adwords > > wouldn't have taken off in such a big way had this not been the case > > (that's SEM, > > btw). > > I don't know if it's true any longer, but a long time back when > N.Delhi had water scarcity, some people started fitting micropumps on > their municipal pipelines under the pretext that they weren't getting > enough pressure. Within a short time, everyone in their localities > had attached micropumps, so that they didn't lose out. > > End result, lots of wastage of electricity (leading to what - more > theft?) and the same quantity of water as before. > > OK, this is only anecdotal, but may apply to everyone indulging in SEO. Applies to the current power-crunch scenario with many people installing inverters too! Finally, the amount of energy available is the same, and everyone will be drawing in more, leading to more power-shedding, leading to ...

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] India GPS WAS Blender as a primary 3d software for our studio
by Nishit Dave 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 6:11 PM, jtd <jtd(a)mtnl.net.in> wrote: > > On Saturday 08 March 2008 05:38 pm, Nishit Dave wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 1:30 PM, jtd <jtd(a)mtnl.net.in> wrote: > > > The openstreetmap data for mumbai is bad afaik. > > > > Sorry for going off-topic, but what map? what device? I want to > > know with extreme eagerness. > > gps device used for mapping the area around HBCSE during the > openstreetmap workshop, several of which were held in the country by > the FSF and friends with Schyuler Erle and Mikel Maron last month. > > The map data donated by AND corp for mumbai is randomly inaccurate, > thus requiring people to go into the streets with a gps logger (fat > plug - one such i happen to make and sell), collecting coordinates > and using a combo of your collected data, yahoo imagery and maybe AND > data to generate accurate stuff. > > BTW the personal navigation devices (with data) being sold here claim > 70% accuracy. God help you with that. > > For the record even google maps data is wrong in most places, with > gps data, street maps and satellite imagery producing three > different results. > Have been frantically searching phoren malls, e.g. Singapore for a good, cheap GPS navigator, but they cost Rs.16,000 upwards. And come with maps for S'pore and Malaysia. I really want one, but don't want to spend a big amount. New Symbian S60 phones are also a no-no, and are even more expensive.

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[COMMERCIAL] Software Engineer opening at Red Hat (Pune)
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 There is an opening for a Software Engineer at Red Hat (Pune) in the team that I am part of. The ideal candidate is required to have a good grasp of POSIX standards, FHS guidelines and possess familiarity with LSB guidelines pertaining to distributions. Should be comfortable with using traditional debugging tools for userspace, can demonstrate competence in scripting and scripting languages and familiar with the processes of producing open source software. We are looking at relevant experience of around 3 years, but that is flexible If interested, do drop a mail with your CV attached (PDF / text / ODF) along with a small portfolio of code to sankar at redhat dot com. Please do put "Software Engineer" in the $SUBJECT line. Please do not reply to this list. ~sankarshan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH1JxOXQZpNTcrCzMRAkckAJ4sD/vt0HpSifA+svVLjemz/GsIlACfT+St THB5T/vV/Z/nbKwWiZdCcxU= =PGyN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Blender as a primary 3d software for our studio
by Aniruddha Dasgupta 09 Mar '08

09 Mar '08

Hi, We at E-dutainment Unlimited and our sister concern, Redstreet productions have been thinking of using blender as our primary 3d software. But we have our apprehensions regarding the shift. firstly, we don't have enough material to train ourselves, as well as train our artists. Can that be arranged by some organisation ? How much support can we expect from the community and in what fields ? what about promotions ? Our concern is : is there an organisation to support us ? or is there a group or an individual who can help us out ? we have a lot more to ask and discuss, but i think, having a personal discussion would be helpful. so if someone thinks likewise, he or she can call us at the below mentioned phone numbers and we can take it further. +91-9860931588 +91-9324696842 Thanking everyone for their help. regards Aniruddha Dasgupta Director Animation E-dutainment Unlimited. Nerul, Navi Mumbai.

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script to send mail when error detected in log file
by Agnello George 09 Mar '08

09 Mar '08

HI I have a small query !! I need to write a script whenever there is an error generated in the spamd.log or any general log file to send me a mail only once, the bellow script is what i came u with but i doubt it would work. if [ $(grep -e "unable to start service" /var/log/spamd.log) = 1 ] ; then mail -s " pls check server IP 203.185.XXX>XXX" agnello.dsouza(a)gmail.com fi Is there any application that can scan the log file for a specific word or error as soon as the logs are generated. I have even heard of SMS being sent in some cases. Your inputs will be of great help -- Regards Agnello Dsouza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com www.bible-study-india.blogspot.com

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opensource application similar to Tally ??
by Agnello George 08 Mar '08

08 Mar '08

HI I would like to know if there is any account software similar to Tally available for Linux ( Debian based ) . Red hat had tied up with Tally to come up with a software to support Indian customers ( http://www.redhat.in/news/article/41.html ) .But no deb packages. There are application like Gnu Cash , Nola Pro , Grisbi . But nothing close to Tally , because Tally is *specific to Indian Economy*. The reason i am posting this query is cause i have a friend of mine who has a Engineering Business , Pro Linux, and want to convert all his desktops to the Linux OS from a windows. But the only thing stopping him is the the issue with Tally. and few other softwares . Any suggestion That I can pass on to him !! Thanks -- Regards Agnello Dsouza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com

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Blender Workshop at HBCSE
by Rony Bill 08 Mar '08

08 Mar '08

Hello All, It will be possible this Sunday 9th March to hold the Blender video tutorial workshop at HBCSE Mankhurd so those interested may reply with their confirmation so we can get an idea of the number of people attending. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Posted New small docs on fci.wikia.com
by Neelesh Gurjar 08 Mar '08

08 Mar '08

Hi All, I have posted two small docs on fci.wikia.com. Here are the links: 1. SNMP over SSH: To make SNMP more secured:---> http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/SNMP_over_SSH_-_Research 2. Accessing iSCSI target from Linux: ---> http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Accessing_iSCSI_targets_on_Linux Please have a look into this and modify it to get it better. I wanted to change Title of First article in wiki but I couldnt do that. I just wanted to remove "Research" from the title. Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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[X-POST]: Our next FreeIndian: Kartik Mistry
by Roshan 08 Mar '08

08 Mar '08

List, I assume it has been almost over a month now and updates to kde.in were far and few. But here it comes, presenting the next FreeIndian: Kartik Mistry. Our current interview features the Gujarati Geek (alliteration attempted ;) ) who runs the Universal OS and is involved in l10n as well as packaging applications for it. Interestingly, he started with Redhat 7.0 in his early days of computing with FOSS and has now become a package maintainer for few packages under Debian GNU/Linux. Read on to know more, from the below link. http://www.kde.in/index.php/Kartik_Mistry

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error: syswrite() to parent failed ..../SpamAssassin/SpamdForkScaling.pm
by Agnello George 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

Hi I have a spamassissin server with 512 MB ram cpu speed 1796.635 MHz . i am currently connecting a mailserver called "Smater mail " to connect to my remote spamassissin server and it works fine. but suddenly ( after a few days ) its connection breaks. When I check the log i find the following error !! Thu Mar 6 14:53:05 2008 [2037] error: syswrite() to parent failed: Broken pipe at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/SpamdForkScaling.pm line 576. to start spamassissin again i have to restart the spamd daemon and everthing work fine . Is there a solution to this ?? If there is no solution i need to know how do i get an automated alert throught mail if the system generates ''error: syswrite() to parent failed" in the log file. i tried logwatch ...but not really help full -- Regards Agnello Dsouza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com www.bible-study-india.blogspot.com

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Kubuntu problem -- cannot boot without 'all_generic_ide' parameter
by Amit Joshi 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

I have a fully updated Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) installation with the 2.6.22-14-generic kernel. It seems like my computer cannot boot without the all_generic_ide parameter added to the kernel line in menu.lst If I remove the all_generic_ide parameter, my computer won't boot and gives an error "waiting for root file-system". Also, all my ide devices are detected under /dev/sdx. Is anybody experiencing similar problems? Regards, Amit. -- http://mckagan.googlepages.com

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Linux friendly WebCam
by Arun Khan 06 Mar '08

06 Mar '08

I am considering purchase of a Linux supported web cam. Please suggest brand/model that has worked for you and is available @ the Lam. Rd. shops. TIA, -- Arun Khan

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linux webcam
by Satish Alwani 06 Mar '08

06 Mar '08

Actually, I used to have a techcom webcam. But that didnt work on linux. So I picked up a logitech webcam messenger, quality is pretty good. Cant expect anything too fancy for Rs. 1100 odd. But nevertheless a nice webcam. Works great with ubuntu/hardy. The latest skype beta for linux has video support. With a 2mbit down/512up, its almost brilliant with no lags. Personally, the quality in this case was comparable against the mac isight in terms of refresh rates. Maybe 10-15% lower to the mac isight in reproduction quality. Considering one costs 10 times more than the other, I think 10-15% is very doable. Interestingly it works kinda slow/ poorly as compared on windows. The day has finally come where MOST of my hardware is compatible more with linux than windows, atleast where performance and drivers is concerned. :| Satish

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linuxers Digest, Vol 59, Issue 4 (Fitzerald sylvester)
by Fitzerald sylvester 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

hi anurag, nitish dave 'content is the king' can u pls elaborate on this i am in to web hosting we hav over 200 domains we hav chosen linux to run the hardware and install Qmail as mailserver we need an Free software alternative for Web content promotion,as* Nitish*insists SEO pls can u send som info on this package wether its available freely with our guys or if some one on the list can share it ,by way i liked your web site lots i came regards F.j.Sylvester -- F.J.Sylvester ---------------------------------------------------- Connect Computer Service Cellular Phone : 9860165647 Use GNU / Linux System ---------------------------------------------------------

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[OT] Harddisk woes!
by Dinesh Joshi 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

Hello all, I have an Intel Core 2 Duo machine. Configuration is given below. Configuration: --------------- - Processor: Intel Core2Duo E6400 - Motherboard: DG965RYCK - RAM: Kingston DDR2 512x2 ( 533MHz ) - Sony DVD Writer - Harddisks: 1. Samsung 120GB ( SP1213 ) SATA 2. Seagate 80GB ( dont remember the model no. ) PATA 3. Seagate 500GB ( dont remember the model no. ) SATA The 500GB HD is in an external enclosure. I was using it as a backup HD. I got lazy and didn't backup the backup! :( And now that disk has failed. The symptoms are unclear. First, the disk, which would normally show up as an external USB mass storage device, didn't get detected. So I unplugged it from its casing and connected it on my motherboard. But it wouldn't get detected there either. It didn't make the usual "clicking" sound that harddisks do when they're generally busted. So I was hoping it was a cable issue. I changed the cable. It was a no go. I got fed up and unplugged the disk. Then my second disk, 80GB one, stopped being detected. The symptoms it showed were clear. GRUB errors in the beginning but the system booted up fine after reconnecting it's ( HD's ) wires. Funny thing is that the 80GB harddisk was replaced recently because it had failed. I bought the 500GB HD because I wanted to maintain backups but now they too are gone and I'm left with nothing! I've given the harddisk to my vendor who had supplied the disk and he has inquired with several data recovery specialists and they say they'll have to open up the disk. Now my problem is that the disk is very costly and if they open it up, then the warranty will be void and I wont be able to buy a new harddisk. Can someone help me out here? -- Regards, Dinesh A. Joshi

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Hall of shame
by Nishit Dave 04 Mar '08

04 Mar '08

IDBI Bank does not support Firefox. See for yourselves, this is hot off the press (see the outlook window in the background?). Und what's the reason? SECURITY! http://davelok.blogspot.com/2008/02/idbi-bank-does-not-support-firefox.html Oh, and please don't read the other posts on my blog. They won't even amuse you.

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logrotate query !
by Agnello George 03 Mar '08

03 Mar '08

hi I have set up a spamassissin server . I need to rotate the logs in the /var/log/spamd.log file . I added the following directives in the /etc/logrotate.conf # system-specific logs may be also be configured here. # added by agnello 4 march 08 /var/log/spamd.log { weekly compress rotate 4 } Well i jsut want to verify what "rotate 4" really means --- according to the man pages it says "The *number* of times to rotate a logfile before removing it." Also how do i check if these logs are actually going to be compressed and rotated . Thanks!! all inputs will really be of great help -- Regards Agnello Dsouza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com www.bible-study-india.blogspot.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to setup Load Balancer on Linux
by Raghu Prasad 03 Mar '08

03 Mar '08

> I have one email server, and 1 LDAP server for authentication. > In my case all users should go to LDAP for authentication. > For decreasing load on one LDAP server I want to share load > on 2 LDAP servers instead of 1. > For this I am planning to put one Load Balancer for 2 LDAP > servers. A DNS based load balancer should be enough for you. Use DNS round-robin scheme. In this scheme, set up something similar to the following (make suitable changes in IP and FQDN) in your DNS' zone file: ldap.my.tld. IN A 10.1.1.1 ldap.my.tld. IN A 10.1.1.2 Once it is done, use ldap.my.tld wherever you need to give the host name/IP of ldap server. Your DNS will ensure that the IPs are rotated properly while serving the query for ldap.my.tld. You can read more on DNS based load balancing in following links. http://content.websitegear.com/article/load_balance_dns.htm http://ntrg.cs.tcd.ie/undergrad/4ba2.01/group8/DNS.html In a load balanced scenario, it would be better to set up a master LDAP server (say, on 10.1.1.1) and another one (on 10.1.1.2) in slave mode. You need to send all updates to master server and the slave will have everything replicated automatically. See the following link for openldap. http://www.bind9.net/manual/openldap/2.0/replication.html Raghu

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to setup Load Balancer on Linux
by Arun Khan 03 Mar '08

03 Mar '08

> Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:12:06 -0800 > From: "Neelesh Gurjar" <neel.hjs(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] How to setup Load Balancer on Linux > > For this instead of buying LB I want to put Linux box and setup Load > Balancer on that. Is it possible? If yes then how can I do that ? Not sure if this suffices your needs - you can do basic load balancing with Bind round robin resolution. -- Arun Khan

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How to setup Load Balancer on Linux
by Neelesh Gurjar 03 Mar '08

03 Mar '08

Hi, I have one email server, and 1 LDAP server for authentication. In my case all users should go to LDAP for authentication. For decreasing load on one LDAP server I want to share load on 2 LDAP servers instead of 1. For this I am planning to put one Load Balancer for 2 LDAP servers. So for authentication qmail will send request to Load Balanced IP and then LB will decide where to send the request. For this instead of buying LB I want to put Linux box and setup Load Balancer on that. Is it possible? If yes then how can I do that ? -- Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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/etc/rc.d/init.d/functions ??
by Agnello George 02 Mar '08

02 Mar '08

I am using a debain OS etch 4 .. i am trying to locate /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions .... but can seem to locate this I have a structure like this # ls rc0.d/ rc1.d/ rc2.d/ rc3.d/ rc4.d/ rc5.d/ rc6.d/ rc.local rcS.d/ can some one help me -- Regards Agnello Dsouza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com

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[ILUG-Bom]Gentoo refuses to boot.
by Easwar Hariharan 02 Mar '08

02 Mar '08

Hi, I recently(yesterday) installed Gentoo 2007 from a CD I obtained from Mehul Ved. Problems that dogged me: 1]The Live CD could not boot the ATi Radeon XPress 200(RC410) integrated card on my Intel D101GGC motherboard. 2]I ran the text mode(pseudo-GUI?) installer and refused to install the Gentoo Grub opting instead to add the relevant entries to my Ubuntu 7.04/boot/grub/menu.lst.So,I added the following for Gentoo: title Gentoo 2007 root (hd0,8) kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/hda9 initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5 wherein my Gentoo / is partition number 9(hda9)So everything went fine till I tried to boot my Gentoo install.Kernel was recognized and starts booting,but during booting an error message pops up saying >>Booting (initramfs)..switch_root: "Bad init('/sbin/init) Kernel panic-not syncing-attempted to kill init! and the machine hangs there with the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock LEDs blinking furiously.I have to press the Reset button to regain control.I tried a Google search and all I got was a topic on a development release of a VM.Cansomeone help me with this error? Regards, Easwar

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Does SEBI dislike FOSS?
by Nishit Dave 01 Mar '08

01 Mar '08

In 2005, the Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI) issued a circular to stock exchanges directing them to get affidavits from brokers / sub-brokers operating trading terminals, targeting use of unauthorised software. The link to the circular is here: http://www.sebi.gov.in/circulars/2003/cir3403.html Read the first clause of the affidavit format. The requirement that SEBI's prior approval be sought before modifying any part of the terminal software is directly in conflict with terms of FOSS licenses like the GPL. This may have a bearing on the use of open technologies on trading platforms. Can any of the enlightened comment on what can be done to level the playing field for FOSS? Have any of the developers come across emphasis on use of closed technologies for compliance with SEBI requirements?

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Hello
by Rehman 01 Mar '08

01 Mar '08

Hello All, Its good to see you all sharing ideas and contributing towards the open source revolution.Well, I got introduced to linux only a month ago by one of my coworkers, and I must admit that I found it a bit difficult to grasp at first.As I am starting to get used to it I am finding it more productive as compared to Windows and getting more excited about it I recently bought an eeePC, Its a marvellous combination of mobility and productivity, what more would you want in a notebook? Since I am really new to Linux, I would really appreciate if you'll could help me improving my linux skills.Could you please suggest me on whats the best way of learning Linux in your opinion ? I mean do you learn by yourself by means of trail and Error or Its worth attending some professional Linux Training ? Also does anyone know of Good Linux training Institutes in Vashi ? is anyone here from around Vashi area ? Thanks, Rehman

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[Commercial] Fedora Core 8 DVDs at cheap prices.
by Amit Joshi 29 Feb '08

29 Feb '08

I am selling Fedora Core 8 DVD -- x86 version on Ebay[1]. I would also like to give away Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Edubuntu 7.10 CD (32/64bit) for free with every DVD. [1] http://cgi.ebay.in/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180219048652&ssPageName=A… More information can be found on the following site. -- http://mckagan.googlepages.com

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[cross post][ANN] Freebsd 7.0 released
by vivek khurana 28 Feb '08

28 Feb '08

Hi! All, FreeBSD engineering team has announced release of Freebsd 7.0, first major release in last two years. More at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html . New features of freebsd 7.0 can be found at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/relnotes.html This is what onlamp.com has to say about freebsd 7.0 http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2008/02/26/whats-new-in-freebsd-70.html The making of freebsd 7.0 http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0 Preview.pdf regards VK

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Bluetooth Support Linux
by Aniket Bharaswadkar 28 Feb '08

28 Feb '08

On Tuesday 26 February 2008 11:30:03 pm linuxers-request(a)mm.glug-bom.org wrote: > On FC6, I had to edit hcid.conf as per my requirements (it might work > without editing) > and run bluez-pin manually for the first time. I downloaded > kdebluetooth but it didnt work. > > But recently I upgraded kdelibs and kdenetwork packages and then I noticed > that it automatically asked for pin. But I didnt try kdebluetooth after > that, I believe it might > be working now. > > For file transfer I use obexftp command line client (phone should > support obex protocol) > and for contacts backup I use gnokii (had to compile latest one). My > mobile is Nokia N70. > > Btw how much speed are you getting with file transfer over bluetooth > for me 1MB takes > abt 45-50 seconds. But over USB cable it takes 2-3 seconds only. > > My motherboard supports USB1 only, so I got PCI2USB card with 5 USB2 ports, > but speed over bluetooth still is the same. I suppose thats because > mobile does not > support faster speeds or do I have to specify parameters to kernel > module to support > faster speed over PCI2USB card? > > Amish. Hi all I have been using bluetooth for the past few years. My experience has been improving all the time! The first time I got a cheap chinese bluetooth when I was using FC3. It was detected and running fine after installing bluez manually. And sometime later , I believe after FC5 , bluetooth kernel support was present . I use KDE , so I have been using kdebluetooth. The versions of kdebluetooth till fc7 , came with KBemused server too, which allowed me to control amarok, xmms and noatun from my Nokia Symbian SMartphone. The version in F8 is lacking this functionality. But the good thing is, if you click on Bluetooth icon in the tray, you get a window showing all detected devices. From there I double clicked on my Phone's (N75) icon, I saw 2 services, OBEX Push and OBEX FTP. On clicking obex-ftp , i can see 2 drives (C: and E:) as seen through USB!! And its usable to drag and drop files, I use this method to copy images clicked on my phone. Also one interesting application for the geeky types, if you have a shared computer at home with 2 siblings fighting for chatting acces :-( , one of you can chat through the cell phone using the computer's net connection via Bluetooth !! I have written a small hot-to for this, at http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=125682 I had written this when I was using FC5 . Some things may have changed in the bluetooth config since then , as I have not tried it in F8 . It worked fine with F7 . For contact sync with KDE, you can use kitchensync . You will have to install libopensync, its plugins and libsyncml using yum . And there is one more plugin needed libopensync-plugin-syncml whose packages are not available but source can be obtained at opensync.org . The contacts are synced with Kontact and even the reminders,notes and stuff I think( which I havent tried). Cheers -- Linux mymachine 2.6.23.15-137.fc8 #1 SMP Sun Feb 10 17:48:34 EST 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Dell Vostro 1400 , C2D 1.6Ghz , Nvidia 8400 128MB , Intel 3945 ABG , Intel HDA-Sigmatel 9228

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Community networks
by shirish 28 Feb '08

28 Feb '08

Hi all, I am a GNU/Linux user from Pune. I like to blog about the various happenings that take place or something which interests me in the happenings of GNU/Linux world. I would like very much to know if there are people who would like to do some kind of community based networking. http://freesoftwareexperiences.blogspot.com/2008/02/bandwidth-scarcity-last… Comments, suggestions all are welcome. :) -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal This email is licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17

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[Commercial] Service, support, training in Ubuntu
by shirish 28 Feb '08

28 Feb '08

Hi all, We are an p2p group named wikiocean (www.wikiocean.net) which uses & supports free software in whichever way possible. Most of the time when people are looking for solutions on GNU/Linux platform they are unsure of service support. In that context we are looking to make a database of freelancers, small & medium support centres who are providing GNU/Linux service support to Individuals, NGO's, small & medium organisations . As GNU/Linux is a wide-wide world for time efficiency's sake we have chosen ubuntu as it has the commercial support of Canonical while at the same time has the technical stability & expertise courtesy the Debian Universe. So if you are interested in knowing more, please join http://groups.google.com/group/wikiubuntu. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal This email is licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17

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How to install iSCSI device on Linux
by Neelesh Gurjar 28 Feb '08

28 Feb '08

Hi, I want to install one iSCSI device on my Linux machine. I installed open-iscsi on my Machine. Kernel of my Linux m/c is 2.6.18-8.el5 #1 SMP. -- Regards NeeleshG neelesh_gurjar.livejournal.com LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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bluetooth from IVT Corp.
by Arun Khan 27 Feb '08

27 Feb '08

I have a bluetooth USB device from IVT Corp. Allegedly it has the CSR chip set (from the bluez hardware list). As soon as I plug it in I get the following message ad inifitum with the numbers in the [] ever increasing. [219.240000] hci_scodata_packet: hci0 SCO packet for unknown connection handle 92 Searched for the above on the 'Net but with no conclusive solution. # lsusb -v does list the device but with a MAC address of 11:11:11:11:11:11 Under WinXP (with supplied drivers) it still shows the above MAC address. Is this is a legal MAC address? Any pointers to solutions appreciated. TIA -- Arun Khan

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Bluetooth Support Linux
by Rony 27 Feb '08

27 Feb '08

Hello All, I am planning to buy a usb-bluetooth device from Lam. Road, that's compatible with Linux too. What are the devices used by you and how easy is it to setup and use? On the net BlueSoleil does not have any Linux drivers for download. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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bsnl database migration
by krazy lizard 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

Dear friends, i'm trying to automate the process of finding numbers from the bsnl cd in one of my application. bsnl also provides directory in the form of a cd. i was trying to migrate the database of bsnl customers to mysql. the problem is that the cd is made to run specifically on windows using Visual foxpro & dbase. i can migrate the database, but there is another problem, the address field in the database is encrypted, so i get all the required data in the tables except the addresses. if i try to find the numbers manually, it shows the address but otherwise it's encrypted. any suggestions or work around to this problem? regds, krazy.

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where to report a _kontact_ bug?
by Pradnyesh Sawant 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

Hey, I want to submit a bug for the kontact application for kde, but couldn't find anywhere to do so. Can someone please tell me where to submit a bug for kontact? -- warm regards, Pradnyesh Sawant -- If I learn from my mistakes, pretty soon I'll know everything. --Anon

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Goolag - a Google based web site vulnerability scanner
by Arun Khan 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

FWIW, came across this in an IT e-zine <http://www.goolag.org/>. -- Arun Khan

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[ANN] Voices in Indian languages released
by Kenneth Gonsalves 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

hi, NRC-FOSS is pleased to announce that IIT Hyderabad has released 4 voices - Tamil, Telegu, Hindi and Kannada under a CC license. This is possibly the first time that an educational institution in India has made such a release. The voices are available here: http://nrcfosshelpline.in/iiithyd/ -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/

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Linux on laptops: furthering the cause
by Nishit Dave 25 Feb '08

25 Feb '08

List, I wanted to bounce some thoughts off your collective minds. I recently saw an ad for a cheap laptop launched by HCL - probably trying to compete with the XO and the Eee, with a 7" LCD. Contrary to their image so far of being friendly to FOSS, they seem to be preloading MS-ware (discount versions?) on this PC. I think FOSS starts with a big handicap when manufacturers offer preloaded Windows even in case of computers intended for home or educational use. Should the community start the two following, connected initiatives? 1. Lobby local computer makers like HCL and Zenith to offer an option for loading Linux or selling systems without a pre-loaded OS (and with a tiny little discount). The pre-installed OS can be on a secondary partition, to allow Windows to be installed on a primary partition at the user's option later. I know, the manufacturers would risk paying the Microsoft Tax (TM) heavily if they tried to do anything like this, but this could at least help bring an unfair practice out into the open. 2. Build up an effort to force Microsoft to let its boot loader recognize and (hopefully) accommodate other operating systems that have been installed previously. This would at least keep them intact instead of being overwritten / rendered unusable when the user inevitably installs Windows, licensed or unlicensed, thus keeping up the possibility that it will get used sometimes, even out of curiosity. Your constructive comments please.

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<Announce>Pad.ma Launch
by Sanjay Bhangar 25 Feb '08

25 Feb '08

Over the past few months, we have been working on a Public Access Digital Media Archive (www.pad.ma) and are having a beta-launch event on the 28th of February at JnanaPravaha Art Gallery at Fort. The interface has been written in Python (using the Turbogears frame-work) and Javascript and all the code is GPL. We are using Ogg Theora as the video encoding format for all the videos in the archive. The only browser it does not support is IE;-). Very much looking forward to larger involvement from the FOSS community and should be interesting for anyone who is interested in video, the web, and FOSS. All are welcome and very much looking forward to seeing some Linuxers there. For details of the event, directions, etc.: http://www.camputer.org/event.php?id=7 Warm regards, Sanjay

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New project on FLOSS
by Vinay Sreenivasa 25 Feb '08

25 Feb '08

Hello all, Greetings from IT for Change! ITfC (IT for Change) is a non-profit organisation located in India. ITfC envisions a society capable of, and comfortable with, innovative and effective use of information and communication technologies (ICT) as a tool, to further goals of social change.We undertake research, advocacy and field-action projects in the area of ICTs for development. Wanted to share information on a new on FLOSS, which is being coordinated by the European Union. This project will look at increasing FLOSS uptake in various countries, including India. This project called FLOSS Include, will be carried out by a project team of research institutes, government agencies, private companies and non-governmental organizations in 9 countries - Argentina, Cambodia, China, Ghana, India, South Africa, Spain and the UK. The consortium is led by UNU-MERIT, a joint research and training centre of United Nations University and Maastricht University in the Netherlands and includes among other organizations, Canonical Ltd the sponsors for Ubuntu. In India, the FLOSS Include project will carry out an in-depth analysis of the technical, business and socio-political needs for the growth of FLOSS use, deployment and development in the target regions. In the larger effort, partners will implement FLOSS solutions, tools and services to ensure they are cost-effective and practical for each environment. The FLOSS Include aims to ensure a lasting impact beyond the project duration. A project fact sheet is available at http://flossinclude.eu ITforChange (http://www.itforchange.net/) and Sarai, India (http://www.sarai.net/) are the two organizations in India, which will be a part of this project. As part of FLOSS Include, ITfC will focus on FLOSS and the public sector and will study the role of public sector agencies in producing, organizing and stimulating production of FLOSS, including using FLOSS for public administration, and sharing of FLOSS applications among public sector bodies. Much of social processes, like public delivery of health, education and livelihood support services have a central role for public authorities and hence public systems have a crucial role in pushing FLOSS. Currently commercial, proprietary software is often preferred and the project would study the contexts for FLOSS being used in a larger way for Public administration. We will also study government polices for FLOSS an area where which tends to often have a pro-industry / commercial software orientation and not much support or enthusiasm for FLOSS. In addition, since the issues of standards have a strong connection to the role of public sector - both as a major bulk user of software and being able to set default standards through using them in public application , and through direct policy interventions the study will have a strong focus on the interoperability and open standards aspects in our research. The project activities have been kick-started now and the project is currently in progress. Thanks, Vinay Sreenivasa IT for Change 91-(0)821-2343527 91-98805-95032 vinay(a)itforchange.net www.ITforChange.net

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need help for ldap integration with qmail
by Advait Raut 25 Feb '08

25 Feb '08

hey guys... i need an help for integration of ldap with qmail on RHEL 5. if anybody has done this kind of stuff earlier then pls help me .. -- Regards Advait Raut

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] yum error ..unable to install
by Debarshi Ray 23 Feb '08

23 Feb '08

> I am trying to inall the yum installer ( yum-2.2.0-1.noarch.rpm ) from > http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/download/2.2/ Which distribution (and version) are you using? > rpm -ivh yum-2.2.0-1.noarch.rpm I do not know why you need 2.2.0, because 3.2.x has been the current series for sometime now. Cheerio, Debarshi -- "From what we get, we can make a living; what we give, however, makes a life." -- Arthur Ashe

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yum error ..unable to install
by Agnello George 22 Feb '08

22 Feb '08

Hi I am trying to inall the yum installer ( yum-2.2.0-1.noarch.rpm ) from http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/download/2.2/ rpm -ivh yum-2.2.0-1.noarch.rpm warning: yum-2.2.0-1.noarch.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 69886cc7 Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1:yum ########################################### [100%] i restarted yum and it started with no error [root@esha software]# /etc/init.d/yum start Enabling nightly yum update: [ OK ] but when i try to install gcc it give me the following error [root@esha software]# yum install gcc Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 6, in ? import yummain File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 23, in ? import yum ImportError: No module named yum [root@esha software]# can some one help me with this error ... thanks -- Regards Agnello Dsouza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com

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Help required
by Yogesh Kulkarni 21 Feb '08

21 Feb '08

Dear All, I need help in installing JDK & JRE on debian 2.6.18-6-386. I had tried my level best to install them but could not. Please help me in getting it done. Regards, Yogesh Kulkarni -- योगेश: कुळकर्णी http://yogamegha.blogspot.com https://launchpad.net/people/swamiyogesh

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And the winners for FOSS India Awards are...
by niraj＠efyindia.com 20 Feb '08

20 Feb '08

Here's some great news that I (on behalf of the Linux For You team) wanted to share with all of you... The Gist... Top 20 winners for FOSS India Awards were finalised on 15th of Feb during Open Source India Week's Delhi edition. NRCFOSS sponsored these awards by taking care of the prize money, which is Rs 5 lakh-- where each winner will get Rs 25,000! Here's what M.R. Rajagopalan, director, NRCFOSS, shad to say w.r.t. the awards, Through such incentives, NRCFOSS expects to stimulate young minds, encourage innovative contributions to the FOSS ecosystem and address the digital divide." Complete details about the awards announcement can be had at: http://www.efytimes.com/efytimes/24867/news.htm <snippet from the announcement> Here is the complete list of the winners: * Hindawi Indic Programming System * Zmanda Recover Manager for MySQL * Dhvani Indian Language Text to Speech System * Fedora (games and localization spins) * KDE 3.5 Hindi * MayaVi * Jtrac * DeepOfix * Tuxtype * WanEM * Mac4Lin * OpenLX * Anjuta * HarvestMan * Get it I say * KIWI-LTSP * Ffmpeginstall * Belenix * TVTK: Traited VTK * GNUSim8085 </snippet> For more details about the FOSS India Awards, visit: www.openits.com/awards/ Soon, registration will be opened up for FOSS India Awards 2009... Regards, Niraj Sahay

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OFFTOPIC: From India, a magazine that looks at Open Publishing ...
by Frederick Noronha [फ़र ेदरिक नोर ोनया] 19 Feb '08

19 Feb '08

i4donline.net's February 2008 magazine focuses on open publishing. Some of the articles it has include: * Gutenberg Project * Moodle CMS * Widgit Software * Open Webcasting * Open Architecture Network * Digital Library in India, the million book project * Cape Town Open Education Declaration * Information on the Farm Front * Interview: Gregory Newby and Michael Hart * Workshop on Science Commons * ACIA: Intl Workshop on Asia and the Commons in the Info Age * Training programme on biomedical info retrival * BytesForAll summaries * Books: Community radio guide, empowering tools * Etc You can download it at http://i4donline.net/feb08/feb08.pdf FN -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph +91-832-2409490 The Goa books blog: http://goabooks.wordpress.com Goa1556 (alt.publishing.goa): http://goa1556.goa-india.org

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query about double firewalls
by Rohit V Bhute 18 Feb '08

18 Feb '08

Hi people. Some of you might remember I had asked about the chaotic performance of a LAMP server a few months ago. My team finally brought the local server where we had tested our sites earlier online. We eliminated each component of the stack. Finally, we were left with the firewalls. At the ISP where we have co located, we have two firewalls - one dedicated hardware firewall shared among three servers and one on the machine itself. There is some NATing also involved since the LAMP server has a 192.168.x.x address. The test server which we were using as our baseline had just its own firewall (iptables). At the firm suggestion of the ISP's tech/network guys, today, we switched off the LAMP server's iptables firewall. Now sites are working like smooooth! <http://pastebin.com/m63e4e613> This is our test server's iptables listing. The LAMP server has ports 21 and 443 also open in addition to one listed here. The OUTPUT chain counters also show a lot of traffic. Otherwise, both iptables are also same. So my doubt is: was the double firewall (and NATing) the reason for the earlier chaotic performance? Is there some configuration we have to do to the iptables before we start it again? Regards. -- Rohit V. Bhute http://rvbhute.org

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Sabayon Linux
by Rony Bill 15 Feb '08

15 Feb '08

Hello All, This month's LFY comes with live + install Sabayon 1.1 Linux. My vendor too has co-operated to exchange defective media. However this month LFY appears to have improved its media quality and I have not found any problems yet. I tried out the live Sabayon DVD and there is only one way to describe Sabayon Linux :- TOO SEXY. It gets even better. Sabayon uses KDE, the great desktop environment. Sabayon is already loaded with popular multimedia codecs and works out of the box. The sound was not coming from my speakers and it was because the 'headphones' channel in the mixer (kmix) did not have its green dot highlighted. Once that was clicked, sound was perfect. Firefox comes pre-loaded with flash player so you can watch/listen flash content too. My system has a 512 MB RAM but I am sure even 256 MB RAM machines will load the live session without a problem as it appears to be quite light on the system. I am writing this mail from the live session. Even if one has his/her own favourite distro, this live DVD is definately worth a look. As one of our members would have put it, it takes the pants off Windows desktops. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Propagating GNU / Linux in schools
by Dinesh Joshi 13 Feb '08

13 Feb '08

Hello all, I've been invited to give a lecture on Linux ( technical + philosophical ). I want to "enlighten" them on the virtues of F/OSS. If any of you guys are into Linux related education / propagation activities then please let me know what might be the critical points that one must cover. Also, I think I'll show them some eye candy. Any good demos / videos available for download to showcase Compiz Fusion or the likes?? -- Regards, Dinesh A. Joshi

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fossconf update
by Kenneth Gonsalves 13 Feb '08

13 Feb '08

Hi, Fossconf took place in Chennai on Feb 1 - 3 2008. There were around 100 talks, 40 demo stalls with student projects done in FOSS and tutorial sessions. The attendance was around 700 on the first day, 1500-2000 on the second day and around 600 on the third day. About 80% of the audience were engineering college students. Volunteers and student projects came from engineering colleges in Chennai as well as from colleges in Salem, Madurai, Vellore and Tirunelveli. Most of the speakers were first time speakers, and although the bulk of them were from Tamilnadu, we had speakers from Mumbai, Bengaluru, Pune, Hyderabad, Goa, Trivandrum and Nellore. We also had a large number of speakers from the academic community who were participating in a FOSS event for the first time. The event was pretty chaotic at times since all of us were n00bs at conducting conferences. Many speakers had a rough time. In spite of the huge attendance, poor logistics lead to many talks having a very thin audience. But by and large, the feedback we have got has been positive. We thank those members of your LUG who helped out in the event and gave us support. We hope to see more of you at Fossconf 09 You may browse the slides here: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/browseslides/ -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [ILUG-Bom]Some candidates for the Delhi Hall of Shame
by Easwar Hariharan 12 Feb '08

12 Feb '08

Hi, Some sites which I felt fit the bill for being in the hall of shame. http://bankofindia.com Internet Banking doesn't work(shows a Security Error!,LOL) when used with FF but works perfectly with IE.Plus there is a declared statement at the bottom of every page:"Works best with IE 5.5 or better" http://irctc.co.in Same statement as above is present at the bottom of very page. http://incredibleindia.org Not exactly a Hall of Shame candidate in terms of F/OSS,but the majority of the links are broken.The feedback email links are also broken.God knows how tourism is booming in India.

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Kubuntu Gutsy going to initramfs prompt
by Amit Joshi 10 Feb '08

10 Feb '08

I have a completely updated Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon (7.10). Recently there have been some random problem. Sometimes when I try to boot there seems to be no activity on the splash screen and after a while it takes me to the initramfs prompt (Failure to mount root filesystem). But again sometimes it boots just fine with no problems whatsoever. I found that this was a bug. [1] The only solution to get around this problem was to append "all_generic_ide" to the root line in menu.lst. But I read in the bug report discussion that it may hamper the performance of my HDDs (which are already slow). Is there any other way to get around this problem? [1] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/67256 Regards, Amit. -- http://mckagan.googlepages.com

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Fedora 8, proxy settings, some crashes in KDE and Super Grub Disk!
by Nishit Dave 10 Feb '08

10 Feb '08

List, A little flashback. I had earlier posted a query about non-destructive resizing of NTFS partitions (where free space is not consolidated even after defragmentation) with gparted, for which there was no clear reply. Looking further, I found that ntfsresize, which is used by gparted, does not need free space consolidation. However, the only catch is that defragmentation should not leave any data near the end of the disk. OK, so partitioning done, I have installed Fedora 8 on my laptop with only KDE on it (space constraints). I want to add some packages not on the DVD, but I am facing some problems currently, as follows: 1. Environmental proxy settings: my internet connection goes through an open proxy that does not require any UID or password. I have manually configured firefox and konqueror's proxy settings and I can connect to the internet through them. However, yum / pup / pirut do not work. I have specified the proxy settings in the root bash profile, my (user) bash profile, and in the global profile under /etc/profile, but I cannot still connect. Any pointers? 2. Crashes: The network card control applets under KDE available as nm-applet or system-control-network crash when run. This happened even before I had specified any network settings. system-config-network works properly, methinks. Has anybody else faced this problem, and is there a solution? 3. Multimedia: Kaffeine, Amarok, etc. are unable to play even audio CDs. I wonder why. Is this what bleeding edge is supposed to be? Remember, my system is not updated, as yum doesn't work. Oh, and having installed grub on /dev/sda3 and not the MBR, I have found and started using Super Grub Disk (http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/) to boot Fedora. I have burnt its ISO to a CD/RW. It is really wonderful. I think all distros should offer it as a part of their live CD distributions. The ISO is just 3.5 MB, and a bz2 archive is only 500k odd in size.

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[OT] Online Programming Contest at TCE, Madurai.
by Balachandran Sivakumar 09 Feb '08

09 Feb '08

Hello all, Thiagarajar College of Engg., Madurai is organising a national level technical symposium named tecuthsav (https://tecuthsav.tce.edu). As a part of the event, an online programming contest(OLPC) will be conducted tomorrow(sunday, 10/02/2008). Please register in the site as a participant and also for the OLPC contest. The site has detailed information about the contest site: https://tecuthsav.tce.edu date:10/02/2008 time: 2:00 pm contact mail: olpc(a)tce.edu -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar (benignbala) Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached Learn to live.................Live to learn Mail: benignbala(a)gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ Site:http://benignbala.googlepages.com

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how to block gmail with blocking port 443
by Agnello George 08 Feb '08

08 Feb '08

HI I have Linux server ( Cent OS ) that runs a firewall and squid ( which is behind the fire wall ) . bellow is my iptable file # Generated by iptables-save v1.3.5 on Thu Feb 7 02:43:43 2008 *nat :PREROUTING ACCEPT [5233:333834] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [5:1836] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [1150:71993] -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128 -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p udp -m udp --dport 22 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128 -A PREROUTING -i eth2 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128 -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE COMMIT # Completed on Thu Feb 7 02:43:43 2008 # Generated by iptables-save v1.3.5 on Thu Feb 7 02:43:43 2008 *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [68521:21158845] :FORWARD ACCEPT [36355:23402728] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [93843:100437897] -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A FORWARD -i eth2 -j ACCEPT -A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT COMMIT # Completed on Thu Feb 7 02:43:43 2008 I redirect all request that comes for port 80 to 3128 ( squid machine ) .... and there with the squid i have blocked few sites. But i want to block gmail ( but i am not allowed to block port 443... which gmail works on ) so my question here is how do i block gmail with out blocking port 443 ? (sorry for binging this issue up again !! but i have not really not found a permanent solution ) Thanks ! for all the help !!! -- Regards Agnello Dsouza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com www.study-the-word.blogspot.com -- Regards Agnello Dsouza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com www.study-the-word.blogspot.com

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shell script query
by Agnello George 07 Feb '08

07 Feb '08

I am trying to write a really simple script to install postfix. my script begins like this : #!/bin/sh echo "this is a script tp install postfix for virtual domains " apt-get install postfix-mysql apt-get install mutt apt-get install telnet apt get install mysql-common mysql-client mysql-server libmysqlclient15-dev sysv-rc-conf apt-get instal openssl apt-get install libsasl2 libsasl2-modules libsasl2-modules-sql libauthen-sasl-cyrus-perl libauthen-sasl-perl apt-get install courier-base courier-authlib-mysql courier-ssl courier-pop sysv-rc-conf --level 235 mysqld on sysv-rc-conf --level 235 postfix on apt-get install apache2 apt-get install vim ..... and so on but as soon as the scipt executes it tries to install postfix-mysql , the apt-get progam asks the question " Do you want to continue [Y/n]? " i have to keep pressing " y " ...... what do i put in my script that will automate this , without asking me the question " Do you want to continue [Y/n]?" Thanks for all the help!! -- Regards Agnello Dsouza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com

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Any Vocabulary builder software for linux
by Praveen Krishnamoorthy 07 Feb '08

07 Feb '08

Hi all, i am using ubuntu and did some search in the synaptic package manager for any vocabulary builder but to no avail. Could anyone direct me to any vocab builder that comes along with ubuntu or anything else which i could compile for linux. Thanks in Advance!! --PraveenKrish-- Read my Blog at http://praveenkrish.blogspot.com

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Mounting Problem
by zoheb ashraf 06 Feb '08

06 Feb '08

Hi ILUG-BOM, I want help regarding mounting windows network drive in Redhat Linux AS3/AS4. I shared the windows folder but unable to mount that drive. Kindly please help me out. Warm Regards Zoheb Ansari.

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Unwanted Connections
by Rony 06 Feb '08

06 Feb '08

Hello All, I am back to using Etch-Kde and while the machine is idle, it shows occasional net activity. Netstat shows the following entries posted below. Why are bbc, rocky-mountain, steffani and such sites being contacted? How do I disable this? Active Internet connections (w/o servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State tcp 0 0 debian.local:60323 rocky-mountain.cs:27644 ESTABLISHED tcp 1 0 debian.local:50722 steffani.debian.org:www CLOSE_WAIT tcp 1 0 debian.local:54730 ns24102.ovh.net:www CLOSE_WAIT tcp 15 0 debian.local:54256 rocky-mountain.csai:ftp CLOSE_WAIT tcp 1 0 debian.local:34230 ftp.de.debian.org:www CLOSE_WAIT tcp 0 0 debian.local:34116 linux.csie.nctu.edu:www ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 debian.local:60323 rocky-mountain.cs:27644 ESTABLISHED tcp 1 0 debian.local:50722 steffani.debian.org:www CLOSE_WAIT tcp 1 1 debian.local:36845 hk-in-f104.google.c:www LAST_ACK tcp 1 1 debian.local:32853 newslb306.telhc.bbc:www LAST_ACK tcp 1 0 debian.local:54730 ns24102.ovh.net:www CLOSE_WAIT tcp 15 0 debian.local:54256 rocky-mountain.csai:ftp CLOSE_WAIT tcp 1 0 debian.local:34230 ftp.de.debian.org:www CLOSE_WAIT tcp 0 0 debian.local:34116 linux.csie.nctu.edu:www ESTABLISHED -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Propagating GNU / Linux in schools
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 06 Feb '08

06 Feb '08

>> games - lots of games - educational stuff will bore them. Then talk >> about free and pirated (they all must be using pirated cds/movies. >> Maybe 1 in 10 will grasp the point. > I plan to. But then what games? Give me a few good examples! OpenArena and Tremulous (Quake III mods -- rocks); Battle for Wesnoth (turn-based strategy -- I prefer real-time strategy) Cheers, Debarshi -- Free software for the Indian community: * ftp://fedora.glug-nith.org/ (Fedora) * http://gnu.glug-nith.org/ (GNU) * http://mirror.wbut.ac.in/ (CRAN, Fedora, Mozilla, TLDP)

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mounting Problem
by Raghu Prasad 06 Feb '08

06 Feb '08

> I want help regarding mounting windows network drive in > Redhat Linux AS3/AS4. > I shared the windows folder but unable to mount that drive. > Kindly please help me out. If your network is fine and windows share name, user name and password are correct, then the following command should mount the shared folder on Windows server running on (say) 10.1.1.1 to /mnt on your Linux system. mount -t cifs -o user=winuser,password=winpass //10.1.1.1/sharename /mnt Be root to execute this command. If share name or password contains white spaces, then appropriate quotes needed to be added for your shell to treat them properly. Raghu

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Hardwares other than i386/amd64
by Kartik Mistry 06 Feb '08

06 Feb '08

Dear all, Some of us probably knows that Debian comes with more than 12 or more architecture support [1]. And, we traditionally only use either amd64 (AMD64 family) or i386 (Intel 32 bit processors) or powerpc (Mac is now on Intel processors). So, my question is where exactly other hardwares than these can be get from/within India? [1] http://www.us.debian.org/ports/ -- Cheers, Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_ blog.ftbfs.in | kartikm.wordpress.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mounting Problem
by Neelesh Gurjar 06 Feb '08

06 Feb '08

>From: "zoheb ashraf" <smartzoh(a)gmail.com >I want help regarding mounting windows network drive in Redhat Linux >AS3/AS4. >I shared the windows folder but unable to mount that drive. Kindly please >help me out. 1. Can you ping your windows PC which have the share ? 2. Please try following command on linux and give me the result. smbclient -U <windows username> --list=ferrari It will ask for password please put your windows passwd. Can you see the share name ? Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to configure 2 CPUs on Fedora
by Neelesh Gurjar 06 Feb '08

06 Feb '08

>>Neelesh Gurjar wrote: >>cat /proc/cpuinfo shows 8 CPUs. Kartik >Your problem solved! Probably, you don't have enough RAM when your >machine is behaving slowly even with 8 CPUs.. Server has 4 GB of RAM. Should I increase this ? or is there any logic to calculate RAM ? >>Neelesh Gurjar wrote: >> I will prefer to recompile kernel as Tally 7.2 for linux doesnt work on FC5+ >> Is there any debugging tool which I can use like Dtrace on Solaris ? Kartik >Debugging for Tally or Kernel? >It is better to start the new thread for this question rather than >asking different question on older thread. Yes I will create different thread for this. I need debuging tool for both kernel and application. Like if any app is not working then why its not working is there any problem in app or os. -- Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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information on /etc/inputrc
by Agnello George 05 Feb '08

05 Feb '08

I am trying to make changes to the /etc/inputrc file ..... ( this file basically handles keyboard mapping for specific situations. see http://tldp.org/LDP/lfs/LFS-BOOK-6.1.1-HTML/chapter07/inputrc.html ) but not much info is given on how to edit the file as per one likes. Suppose i want the keyboard key "ctl+e" to run the command ls -la .... how do i do this in /etc/inputrc file. thanks .... for helping me out here :-) -- Regards Agnello Dsouza www.linux-vashi.blogspot.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to configure 2 CPUs on Fedora
by Neelesh Gurjar 05 Feb '08

05 Feb '08

>So, check that: cat /proc/cpuinfo shows two (or more in your case..) >processors. If not, something must be wrong with kernel, or you may >need to recompile kernel or at last, you need to use FC8 :P cat /proc/cpuinfo shows 8 CPUs. I will prefer to recompile kernel as Tally 7.2 for linux doesnt work on FC5+ Is there any debugging tool which I can use like Dtrace on Solaris ? -- Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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[Commercial]Community Pass Over! But You Can Still Attend the Keynotes At Open Source India Week
by Niraj Sahay 05 Feb '08

05 Feb '08

Dear Open Source Enthusiasts, Here's more good news from Open Source India Week (aka LinuxAsia). Though our quota of 500 Community Passes got over last week, OSIW team has released a new pass--Visitor Pass, which will allow you access to the Keynotes and the Expo. Registration for the Visitor Pass is open to the first 250 registrants, for both cities--B'lore and Delhi. This Visitor Pass will entitle registrants to: 1. The Keynote & Star-Speaker sessions 2. The Expo Register at: http://www.osiweek.com/users/delegatetemp.php Star Speakers at Open Source India Week ********************************** Brian Behlendorf, Apache & Collabnet (B'lore and Delhi) Klaus Knopper, Knoppix (B'lore and Delhi) David Axmark, MySQL (B'lore and Delhi) Paul Kangro, Novell (B'lore and Delhi) Louis Sourez Potts, OpenOffice (Delhi) This year, LinuxAsia has grown into Open Source India Week -- a week-long event spanning three cities: Bangalore (11th-12th Feb), Mumbai (13th Feb) and Delhi (14th-15th Feb). Last year, LinuxAsia (Delhi) had received 1300-plus web registrations through individuals, so REGISTER ASAP to book your FREE entry!!! For MORE DETAILS on OSIW, go to: www.osiweek.com Yours truly, Team, OSIW www.osiweek.com team(a)fosii.org IMP: Make your contribution in growing this Indian Open Source event, by distributing this message amongst as many as you can--your LUG members, your office colleagues, your bulletin boards, etc.

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Kerberos
by Omkar Raut 05 Feb '08

05 Feb '08

Just wondering if Kerberos is successfully implemented for Telnet. Can anybody shoot some pointers on this topic?

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[X Post] Call for Debian Installer testing, before D-I Beta1 release
by Kartik Mistry 05 Feb '08

05 Feb '08

Hi, Sorry for cross post but if anyone is brave enough to test and report latest Debian installer -- it will be very helpful for upcoming release, Lenny. ~ Kartik ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Otavio Salvador Subject: Call for Debian Installer testing, before D-I Beta1 release To: debian-boot Hello, We're starting the work for D-I Beta1 release and we would like ask to everyone to test the installer as much as possible, especially in not so common architectures where we receive less general testing. In the current timeline, we will stop to accept fixes for the installer in few days so any important issues need to be fixed _now_. You can find the latest installer, for your pet architecture, at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and if you find any issues file a installation report. Thanks in advance and let's make Lenny the best release ever made! Cheers, Otavio Salvador on behalf of Debian Installer Team -- Cheers, Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_ blog.ftbfs.in | kartikm.wordpress.com

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How to configure 2 CPUs on Fedora
by Neelesh Gurjar 04 Feb '08

04 Feb '08

Hi, I have Xeon Quad core processor server. And I have attached one more same processor to that motherboard. So now I have two processors on one motherboard. I have already installed Fedora Core4 on that. But after attaching new processor instead of getting fast its getting slow. Specially when samba user connects samba share or nfs clients connect nfs share it takes 2-3 or more for them. Is there any spacial configuration for second CPU ? or should i have to compile kernel ? -- Regards NeeleshG LINUX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity

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Help with adding and tagging foss events in India
by Philip Tellis 04 Feb '08

04 Feb '08

Hello people, Some time ago, prompted by a thread on linux-india-general, I built a pipe to create a feed of foss events in India: http://pipes.yahoo.com/bluesmoon/foss_in_india What this pipe suffers from is lack of input data, so what I'm hoping for, is help from lugs around the country to create this input data. Doing this is fairly simple. 1. Add the event to http://upcoming.yahoo.com if it is not already there 2. Tag the event with the two tags "foss" and "india" You can do the same for barcamp style events, but use the tag "unconference" instead of "foss". Please spread the word, and help out Thanks, Philip -- hello world

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[Commercial]CTOSummit: A unique event that discusses Open Source related business opportunities
by Niraj Sahay 02 Feb '08

02 Feb '08

CTOSummit: A unique event that discusses Open Source related business opportunities Dear Sir/Madam, What's happening in the Open Source space? Is this growth for real or is it just another bubble? Are Indian IT firms benefiting from this phenomenon too? How? Why? These questions will be answered at the CTOSummit happening on the 12th of February 08, at The Taj Westend. Sample of speakers at the CTOSummit: Brian Behlendorf, Co-founder Apache and Collabnet; David Axmark, Co-founder, MySQL; Klaus Knopper, Co-founder, Knoppix. Speakers from Novell, Ingres, TCS, Satyam, Intel, Microsoft, and many more IT firm, will be participating in the discussion at the CTOSummit. Inspired from the Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), which is an annual event in the US, the CTOSummit should be an excellent opportunity for you to discover the business and economics of open source, interact with global and Indian entrepreneurs who have been successful in this arena, and network with the who's who of the IT industry. The Background CTOSummit is one of the events being organised within the Open Source India Week (OSIW), which was earlier known as LinuxAsia. Both, CTOSummit and OSIW are being organised by the EFY Group--publishers of magazines like Electronics For You and LINUX For You. The earlier four LinuxAsia were held only in Delhi, but this year the event has expanded into three cities: Bangalore, Mumbai and Delhi. Few facts related to the business side of Open Source: · MySQL just got bought by Sun Microsystems for UDS$ 1 Billion. · Ingres and SugarCRM are expected to go IPO this year, and despite being open source firms, they are the darling amongst tech investors and analysts. · Indian IT giants, like Satyam and TCS, have started releasing open source projects. · Many SME-IT firms have witnessed growth of over 100-percent in the last three to four years, while working in the Linux/Open Source space. The Specifics: Date: 12th February '08, 10 am to 6 pm Venue: The Taj Westend, Banglore Deadline for registration: 7th February '08 Entry Fee: Rs 5,000 (including service tax 12.36%) Pay to: EFY Enterprises Pvt Ltd For queries: Call Ruchira or Manu at 011-26810601, 02, 03

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Creating opportunities for Linux imlementations
by Sudhir Gandotra 02 Feb '08

02 Feb '08

Friends, We have been making various attempts to create opportunities for Linux deployments and have met with mixed successes. Recently, thinking that RTI can be used as a tool for entering the Government sector, we used this tool and have stopped/postponed one implementation, where we feel Linux can be the option, whereas the user has opted for win$ only. We feel that a small group, what is also called a "special interest group" could be created that can take up this activity strongly. After the RTI is filed and the response received, there is need of a follow-up that would involve technical expertise, which the members of this group can provide and this activity can then move forward. If there is interest in it, please get in touch with me. I am at Delhi and the first case we have got is in delhi itself. Due to legal reasons, its good not to take the name here at this stage, but, this can be a very good beginning for Linux entering into areas that are kept away from it by the "smart fellows" (actually, we may better called them bribed fellows). This activity, can not only give a good name to the LUGs but also make a real difference in the environment. There may be soon the need of filing cases and taking the matter to a level where the decible level of sound about Linux can grow real big, for the environment to notice it in a very interesting manner. Once we do some tests at one location, then they can replicated all across the country. RTI can be very interesting for this. With best wishes for Unity in thinking, feeling and action. Sudhir Gandotra. 98-101-20918 IIPL: B-220/2, 2nd Fl., Savitri Nagar, Malviya Nagar, New Delhi 110017, India 1/G, Shrikrishna Sansthan Building, Bistupur, Jamshedpur 831001, India Phone : +91-11-26014670, 71, 72. Fax : +91-11-26014672 OpenLX Linux OS, Linux Training, Support, Services, Product Development Legal.Software @ Fractional Cost : http://kalculate.com http://www.openlx.com/openlx.html - Linux from India for your PC http://openlx.com/features.html - OpenLX Linux features You don't need violence to shake the world Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You www.humanistmovement.org

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FossConf Day One snaps
by Shrinivasan T 02 Feb '08

02 Feb '08

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Shrinivasan T <tshrinivasan(a)gmail.com> Friends. yesday, FossConf Day One events held well. Inaugurated at 1.00pm. stalls were arranged well by NRC-FOSS and MIT friends. people did wonders on stages. lot of students. saw some public too. Mostly classes are filled, speakers rocked there. Still two days are there. come and see our friends doing wonders. see the snaps here. http://picasaweb.google.com/tshrinivasan/FossConfDayOne -- dear, T.Shrinivasan My experiences with Linux are here http://goinggnu.wordpress.com For Free and Open Source Jobs http://fossjobs.wordpress.com -- dear, T.Shrinivasan My experiences with Linux are here http://goinggnu.wordpress.com For Free and Open Source Jobs http://fossjobs.wordpress.com -- dear, T.Shrinivasan My experiences with Linux are here http://goinggnu.wordpress.com For Free and Open Source Jobs http://fossjobs.wordpress.com

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[Commercial]OSIW 2008 Update
by Niraj Sahay 01 Feb '08

01 Feb '08

[Commercial] OSIW 2008 Update 1. Community Passes are over now. We thank the community for a very encouraging response. 2. Visitor Passes are now available for FREE--you get access to Keynotes and Expo, but not the Tech Tracks. Offer open to the next 200 registrants or 5th of Feb '08. **** TO REGISTER, VISIT: http://www.osiweek.com/users/delegatetemp.php 3. Speaker registration opened for a day. Great response. Now we are closing that too. 4. FREE booths for non-commercial organisations like LUGs available at the B'lore's OSIW Expo and Delhi's ManageIT Expo. Five 6 sqr mtr booths available at both locations. Please contact niraj.sahay(a)efyindia.com (M:09899637885) to exhibit. 5. Two workshops announced: (1) Open Source Powered Virtualization (Delhi) (2) FOSS-enabled software development for mobile devices, B'lore 6. Agenda and programme for all CIO/CTO level summits have been announced. 7. Coming soon: (i) The complete schedule for the Tech Tracks at Delhi and B'lore (ii) Workshop powered by Mr Uma Sankar (ELCOT) and Klaus Knopper (Knoppix): Open Source solutions for people with disabilities at Delhi (Free Entry) (iii) Workshop for those who want to become Entrepreneurs in the FOSS world at B'lore (Free Entry) Thanks a lot for supporting OSIW. Yours truly, Team, OSIW OSIweek.com PS: Bonanza for Naukri.com registrants! If you are registered with Naukri.com, then look for special offers coming your way. [Commercial]

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Mysql embedded with Qt.
by Rajen M. Parekh 01 Feb '08

01 Feb '08

Hi, I am currently trying to make a small portfolio managing application using Qt4.3.3 + mysql-5.1. I wanted to use Mysql embedded rather then full server. I recompiled the qt mysql driver for using mysql embedded as explained in the Qt manual (qassistant) and the driver compiled successfully. I installed the newly compiled driver at its appropriate location. Now when I start my application, I get the following error...... 080201 14:10:06 InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file operation. InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights to InnoDB: the directory. InnoDB: File name /var/lib/mysql/ibdata1 InnoDB: File operation call: 'open'. InnoDB: Cannot continue operation. Actually I don't know how to use this driver.... or rather I should say that how to use the embedded MySQL system. Am I supposed to copy the any files within my application project directory. I tried to search on the net, but couldn't find much to continue. In my main.cpp (where I initialise the mysql server connection), I commented the connection parameters that are used when using the mysql server. My main.cpp looks like this..... ///////////main.cpp///////////////// #include <mainmenu.h> #include <QSqlDatabase> #include <QSqlError> #include <QMessageBox> int main(int argc, char *argv[]){ QApplication app(argc, argv); QSqlDatabase mdb = QSqlDatabase::addDatabase("QMYSQL"); /*mdb.setHostName("localhost"); mdb.setDatabaseName("portfolio"); mdb.setUserName("rajen"); mdb.setPassword("somePassword");*/ if (mdb.open()){ QString success = "Success!!"; QString con = "Connection Successful."; QMessageBox *mbox = new QMessageBox(QMessageBox::Information, success, con, QMessageBox::Ok); mbox->exec(); } else { QMessageBox::critical(0, QObject::tr("Database Error"), mdb.lastError().text()); } MainMenu *main = new MainMenu(&mdb); main->show(); return app.exec(); } ///////////main.cpp///////////////// Any guidance or some links on the net would be helpful. Regards, Rajen.

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POSITIONS AT HBCSE
by alpesh gajbe 01 Feb '08

01 Feb '08

HOMI BHABHA CENTRE FOR SCIENCE EDUCATION ESTABLISHMENT Ref:HBC/EST/SA/ 30/01/2008 NOTICE NO. 02/08. Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education (TIFR), Mumbai hereby invites applications for one temporary position of System Administrator. 1. System Administrator at HBCSE - 1 position : Qualification: Candidates should have B.Tech/M.C.A. with 5 years experience (relaxable for meritorious candidates). Job Discription : HBCSE has a LAN with about 120 clients, and several servers. The candidate is required to manage and monitor the network, the websites and provide basic support. All the servers run GNU/Linux operating system and exclusively use free software. This is a major and key assignment, requiring high quality of professional skill and experience. The applicant should have sound knowledge of GNU/Linux (Unix) system administration. System administration includes setting up and maintaining servers for web, email, spam and virus filtering, firewalls, network traffic monitoring, databases, wikis, backups,etc. HBCSE conducts computer related workshops for schools and other educational organizations. Applications are sought from individuals with a passion and commitment for working in a learning environment, and an excellent understanding of free software development and support systems. The candidate should also have good communication skills with interest in technical education. The position is purely temporary, for one year in the first instance and extendable by one or two more years. A consolidated honorarium will be paid as follows. * Rs. 25000/- p.m. + HRA 30% in lieu of Institute accommodation. Age: Upto 35 years (relaxable for meritorious candidates) Application giving full details such as Name, Date of Birth, Full address with phone/mobile number and e-mail address, Educational Qualification, names and addresses of two referees (attach testimonials from referees) together with true copies of relevant certificates, testimonials duly attested & super scribing the post applied for and the Notice No. 02/08 on the envelope, should reach the Administrative Officer, Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, T.I.F.R, V. N. Purav Marg, Mankhurd, Mumbai - 400 088 within 20 days from date of publication of this notice. Applicants in Govt. / Semi-Government / Public Sector undertakings /Autonomous bodies must apply through proper channel. For more information visit our website: http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in (M.D. Gaitonde) Admn. Officer – D NOTICE BOARDS : HBCSE, Mankhurd : GMRT, Pune : TIFR Main Campus : RAC Colony : TIFR Centre, Bangalore : CRL, Ooty : NCBS, Banglore : BF, Hyderabad : NCRA, Pune : HEGRO,Panchmarhi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GPRS /EDGE etc performance
by Kartik Mistry 01 Feb '08

01 Feb '08

jtd wrote: > The CDMA usb modem from tata is about tolerable I am using it, the speed is much better at Ahemdabad than Mumbai! I am wondering if it is location specific.. > Basically Schuyler Erle one of the freemap faculty would like to > obtain a connection when he is India. Tata modem will suck for them, specially who had experience with broadband/or other good connection. -- Cheers, Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_ blog.ftbfs.in | kartikm.wordpress.com

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GPRS /EDGE etc performance
by jtd 31 Jan '08

31 Jan '08

Hi all, what is the state of gprs /edge performance. a few months ago i tried out airtel gprs and it was pathetic to say the least. The CDMA usb modem from tata is about tolerable Basically Schuyler Erle one of the freemap faculty would like to obtain a connection when he is India. Rgds JTD

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Kolhapur workshop
by Kenneth Gonsalves 31 Jan '08

31 Jan '08

Hi, the report on the recent workshop in Ichalkaranji is here: http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/wiki/KolhapurWorkshop We would like to thank the members of Mumbai and Pune LUGs for their active and professional help in making the event a grand success. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/

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[OT][JOBS] PHP/MySQL Developer
by Rohan Dighe 31 Jan '08

31 Jan '08

DETAILS OF VACANCY POSITION VACANT PHP/MySQL Developer COMPANY NAME Webchutney Studio Pvt Ltd. COMPANY PROFILE Webchutney is a full Service Interactive Business and Marketing Agency that provides its clients with multi-platform user interface design and marketing, interactive application development and technical program management, data analysis, customer relationship management and advisory services. Webchutney has offices in New Delhi, Mumbai and Bangalore. For more, visit us on www.webchutney.com JOB DESCRIPTION • The Incumbent would be responsible for development of new section / features, and maintenance of websites. • Designing and implementing code that is portable, high performing and bug free. • The incumbent would also be also be working on some open source module for Integration. QUALIFICATION Experience: 1 – 3 yrs Education: Graduate, BCA/DCA or Certificate course in Computer Science or equivalent LOCATION New Delhi & Mumbai CONTACT INFORMATION : rohan.dighe(a)webchutney.net

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Invitation to FOSS Meet@NITC 2008
by Praveen A 30 Jan '08

30 Jan '08

Linuxers, We are pleased to inform you that National Institute of Technology, Calicut will be hosting its annual free and open source software conference, namely FOSS Meet @ NITC 2008, on 28th, 29th and 30th of March 2008. This time the focus of the event is to get more students actively involved in FOSS. As usual, there will be talks, BOFs, workshops etc. - details of which will soon be put up on our website – http://www.fossmeet.in/nitc . In addition to that, this year, we are starting a contest called FOSSDev, to promote student participation in and contribution to FOSS. Basically, a team wishing to participate has to find a mentor who will help them contribute to a project of the participant's choice. FOSSDev is a year long event. There will be three "checkpoints" at which progress will be evaluated and prizes will be given accordingly. Total prize money is Rs. 23,500. You can read more about FOSSDev at http://fossmeet.in/nitc/fossdev . This meet is organized by the GNU/Linux Users Group Calicut(GLUGC) in association with Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, Student Branch NIT Calicut [IEEE], Computer Society of India, Calicut Chapter [CSI], Computer Science and Engineering Association [CSEA] and all the volunteers from various walks of life. Listen to people who already experienced the FOSS Meet spirit. * [...] NITC's FOSS event has grown in stature, and is quickly becoming one of the recognized FOSS events in India, along with Gnunify, Freedel and of course FOSS.IN. [...] - Atul Chitnis http://atulchitnis.net/diary/showentry/420 * [...]The organization of FOSS @ NITC surprised me, compared to what I'd seen at other similar conferences. Compared to what went on at GNUnify, these guys are a lot more decentralized in organization and had quite a feel of a student run tech fest. I hardly saw any faculty running around, except for Amarjeet. The faculty was more of facilitiating the event rather than running the event and their pulls on the event was not quite obvious, if any. Quite heartening indeed from my point of view.[...] - Gopal V http://t3.dotgnu.info/blog/conferences/foss-nitc-06.html * [...] Right. All around good experience, the event, the place, the hosts and not to mention the food. College set near a nice jungle/hill kinda place. Appams rocked! Beach was fun as well, just in time for the sunset. Lots of good talks from Philip, Gopal, Shyam, Shreyas and so many many more people. [...] - Pradeepto in this same mailing list http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20070212/058037.ht… * [...] I was at the meet up last year along with Pradeepto and many other people. It's quite a nice experience. You should go if you can. [...] - Philip Tellis again in this same mailing list http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20070212/058031.ht… Looking forward to meeting you at FOSSMeet@NITC 2008. Note: Please register yourself on the website as soon as possible. Regards, The Core Team FOSSMeet@NITC2008 -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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[Cross Post] Code review tool
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 30 Jan '08

30 Jan '08

Hi, http://www.review-board.org/ " For too long, code reviews have been too much of a chore. This is largely due to the lack of quality tools available, leaving developers to resort to e-mail and bug tracker-based solutions. At VMware, we've traditionally done code reviews over e-mail. A significant amount of time was wasted in forming review requests, switching between the diff and the e-mail, and trying to understand what parts of the code the reviewer was referring to. We decided to fix all that. " Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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Best Linux Distro for Maya
by Aniruddha Dasgupta 29 Jan '08

29 Jan '08

Hello Folks, As a new member to your mailing list, i hereby state, that i am a novice at using linux. But i am well aware of the power it bestows upon us. :)) Anyway, i am an _Animator_ and would like to know, which would be the best Distro for running Autodesk Maya ? I stay in Vashi Sector 10. and would be greatly obliged if any of the senior members would have an extra copy of a suitable distro for me. Thanking all the members in Advance. regards Aniruddha Dasgupta 3d Character Animator +91-9324696842 +91-9860931588

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[Cross Post] Qt 4 now a part of LSB 3.2
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 29 Jan '08

29 Jan '08

Hi, --------- The Linux Standard Base version 3.2 has been released. Release notes are available here: https://www.linux-foundation.org/en/ReleaseNotes32 The specification itself is available here: http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_3.2.0/ The test suites and SDK can be downloaded from our FTP site. More information is available at: https://www.linux-foundation.org/en/Downloads This release of the LSB has many fixes and features, including: * New "trial use" modules, replacing the former "optional" modules. * Initial support for printing. * Initial support (as trial use) for ALSA. * Support for Perl and Python as first-class languages for Linux apps. * Several freedesktop.org standards, including menus and icon themes. * Support for the Portland project's xdg-utils as trial use. * Promotion of Qt 4 to a required part of the standard, and deprecation of Qt 3. * FreeType support, through both FreeType and the Xft X extension. * XRender support. More details are available in the release notes. In addition, a new certification process has been introduced in time for LSB 3.2. ------ Section 16 [1] should be of interest :) [1]http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_3.2.0/LSB-Desktop-generic/LSB-De… Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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[Commercial]Hurry! 40 free seats left at Delhi, and 80 at B'lore: Open Source India Week 2008
by Niraj Sahay 29 Jan '08

29 Jan '08

Dear Open Source Enthusiasts, Open Source India Week (aka LinuxAsia) as part of its community initiatives, had released 500 entry tickets (worth Rs 1000 each) for FREE. As on date, only 40 FREE seats remain at Delhi and 80 at B'lore! These FREE Passes entitle registrants to: 1. The Keynote & Star-Speaker sessions 2. The Tech Tracks: (For: (a) IT Developers, (b) IT Administrators and (c) FOSS Solutions for the disabled) 3. The Expo The Dates: Bangalore (11th-12th Feb), Mumbai (13th Feb) and Delhi (14th-15th Feb). Register at: http://www.osiweek.com/users/delegatetemp.php These FREE tickets are applicable for the Bangalore and Delhi chapter, since at Mumbai, OSIW has not scheduled a TechTrack this year (Mumbai only has a CXOSummit). Star Speakers at Open Source India Week ********************************** Brian Behlendorf, Apache & Collabnet (B'lore and Delhi) Klaus Knopper, Knoppix (B'lore and Delhi) David Axmark, MySQL (B'lore and Delhi) Paul Kangro, Novell (B'lore and Delhi) Louis Sourez Potts, OpenOffice (Delhi) For MORE DETAILS on OSIW, go to: www.osiweek.com Your truly, Team, OSIW www.osiweek.com team(a)fosii.org IMP: Make your contribution in growing this Indian Open Source event, by distributing this message amongst as many as you can--your LUG members, your office colleagues, your bulletin boards, etc.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Best Linux Distro for Maya
by Easwar Hariharan 29 Jan '08

29 Jan '08

> > > So we are now looking for the best platform to run that. > We have zeroed in on Open Suse and Mandriva. Can someone tell us how to > convert RPM > packages run on Ubuntu. because we really liked the distro. Use alien,to install alien,do sudo apt-get install alien ,then alien -d foo.rpm Reagrads, Easwar Hariharan

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Freemap India 2008 Mumbai
by alpesh gajbe 28 Jan '08

28 Jan '08

I would like to announce the Freemap India 2008 Mumbai Workshop which is a part of the Freemap India 2008 workshop series which will be held in select cities in India.In Mumbai the workshop will be held in HBCSE from 7th and 8th February the details are available on http://wiki.freemap.in/moin.cgi/FreeMapIndia2008 The Registration are open and instructions to register are available at http://wiki.freemap.in/moin.cgi/FreeMapIndia2008Mumbai Mailing List http://freemap.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freemap-workshop The Freemap India Workshop Calendar http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=gbs0f0nb8c5l578qm5b395cmo4%40group…

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SID dvds
by jtd 28 Jan '08

28 Jan '08

does any one have sid dvds. -- Rgds JTD

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[JOB] Open source weather visualization
by Prabhu Ramachandran 27 Jan '08

27 Jan '08

Hello, One project position is open at the Department of Aerospace Engineering, IIT Bombay for the visualization of weather data using open source tools. The project will involve creating tools for the visualization of atmospheric weather data using Mayavi. Mayavi is an open source, interactive, 3D visualization tool written in Python. More information on Mayavi is available: https://svn.enthought.com/enthought/wiki/MayaVi In addition to directly working with Mayavi and its core development team, the project will require working with and contributing to several important open source projects like VTK (http://www.vtk.org), Python (http://www.python.org), Traits and the Envisage application framework (http://code.enthought.com). Mayavi2 is packaged as part of Debian (testing) and many people all over the world are using it. Mayavi2 was also featured on the front page of the Python Magazine in December http://pymag.phparch.com/c/issue/view/61 Requirements ------------- * knowledge of C and object oriented programming with C++. * passion for 3D graphics, visualization, software engineering and technology. * passion for open source software. * knowledge of Python is a plus. You will need to work at IIT Bombay. If you are from outside Mumbai accommodation will be provided on campus. Local Mumbai residents can choose to stay at home. The project ends in April 2009. The pay will be reasonable but depends on how good you are. It might not match industry rates, but you will be on the IITB campus. More details on the project are available here: http://www.aero.iitb.ac.in/~prabhu/Projects Please do get back to me if you are interested. Please also circulate this to anyone who you think may be interested. Thanks! Regards, -- Prabhu Ramachandran http://www.aero.iitb.ac.in/~prabhu

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seminar at Lala lajpat rai college.
by mukesh yadav 26 Jan '08

26 Jan '08

hello friends... a small time change is there in our seminar. now it is on Sunday 20th feb from 10 am to 5 pm. instead of 9th feb. here is a topics 1) Introduction to GNU/Linux (you people can add FOSS too if you'd like), Familiarize them with LUG, IRC, etc 2) Small session on GCC 3) LAMP basics 4) Maybe some QT demo. 5) running java on different distro. 6) An small talk on Linux kernel. if you guys want to discus some other topic then that also can be added..... so please guys do come for this small seminar to give a talk. thanks.

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[COMMERCIAL][JOB] Openings for linux & web programmers
by YOGESH JADHAV 25 Jan '08

25 Jan '08

*Please mail to kalpeshindia(a)gmail.com, do NOT Reply to this post. *Hi all, Kalpesh Technologies, a small but ambitious startup, is looking for linux and web developer candidates. Positions are based in Mumbai. Interested candidates may email their resumes to above mentioned email-id. Here are some more details Linux - very good at c,php,shellscripting,sql - good at TCP/IP networking concepts - should be aware of wifi Web - good in Javascript, html,css, PHP - basic knowledge of GUI based tools like VB - willingness to learn & work on flash technologies like FMS, Flex - knowledge of actionscript preferred -- Regards, Yogesh

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[request for help] A social movement wants to build a dynamic website
by Sudhir Gandotra 25 Jan '08

25 Jan '08

Hello List, A social movement wants to build a dynamic website with the following features : 1. The site designing will be done once and will remain the same for quiet some time; Further on, there will be a lot of content added/modified on regular basis and the need is for any of their members to be able to do it (like, I think it happens with the CMS like Joomla, Drupal among others); 2. Polling on various issues, Creation of electronic Newsletters to be emailed to subscribers, based on information existing on the site; 3. Separate areas for separate levels of visitors; 4. Discussion forum; 5. Search through the site for terms, words; 6. Adding links of other sites similar to theirs; 7. Giving links to various issues and grouping them under issues (subjects); perhaps there can be many more things through which they can link their activities happening across the country and they are working on these. they would like to have a site that will give room for adding more features as they develop the web-based way of working further. One main concern is that if the management of such a site needs a technical specialist, it will be a problem. They want to train some of their members form a team, learn this and manage the site. Yours suggestions from your experience will help enrich their work. Thanks a lot. With best wishes for Unity in thinking, feeling and action. Sudhir Gandotra. 98-101-20918 IIPL: B-220/2, 2nd Fl., Savitri Nagar, Malviya Nagar, New Delhi 110017, India 1/G, Shrikrishna Sansthan Building, Bistupur, Jamshedpur 831001, India Phone : +91-11-26014670, 71, 72. Fax : +91-11-26014672 OpenLX Linux OS, Linux Training, Support, Services, Product Development Legal.Software @ Fractional Cost : http://kalculate.com http://www.openlx.com/openlx.html - Linux from India for your PC http://openlx.com/features.html - OpenLX Linux features You don't need violence to shake the world Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You www.humanistmovement.org

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Weird video playback issues
by Joel Solomon 24 Jan '08

24 Jan '08

Hi all, i use ubuntu 7.10. i'm very happy with it but off late i have this weird problem. The Video playback gets Black and white all of a sudden and once it is that way it remains that way only. The only remedy to this is that i have to make a new account and then view the same video again. It works fine!!!!! i'm pretty new to ubuntu and i am just a basic user. Can anybody help i have installed gstreamer plugins ( all non-free codecs too). even the audio visualisation in totem or vlc gets black and white..... -- Joel Solomon -- Joel Solomon

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[OT] Mild, insidious FUD: Cheap laptops
by Nishit Dave 24 Jan '08

24 Jan '08

Today's Business Standard features an article on the front page on cheap laptops on the market, being offered with Linux pre-installed. You can read it here: http://www.businessstandard.com/common/news_article.php?leftnm=8&subLeft=3&… The article's tone seems to be to downplay the emergence of the GNU/Linux OS and software package as a strong alternative to Windows and MS Office, requiring modest hardware to run, and the increasing ease of usage. Instead, it quotes the disadvantage of having to pay Redhat or Novell for support as compared to installing proprietary software from Microsoft. There is no mention of the fact that hardly any home user of Microsoft Windows ever reads up Microsoft Knowledge Base articles or calls Microsoft for support, at least in India. There is no mention of the fact that Ubuntu, which is usually pre-installed on laptops, is available with long term support pledges, that it is very easy to keep a GNU/Linux installation updated, much more so than in case of Microsoft's offerings, which anyway cost you heavily for each upgrade. Similarly, it also conveniently ignores the fact that apart from an office suite and the basic operating system, GNU/Linux distributions also feature a huge variety of other Free software packages, the Windows equivalents of which will see you bankrupting yourself over a period of, say, two years, considering installation and upgrades. In fact, in the print version, there is a big box comparing the prices of software on 'cheap laptops' with Microsoft offerings, where it mentions, as an alternative to MS Office, Google Docs! OpenOffice is mentioned in the article, but only briefly. It seems there is an attempt to suggest that even though the laptop may be cheap, if you want to use serious software, you will have to pay a large sum of money or buy a costlier laptop. Oh, and the aspect of Windows' vulnerability is also blithely ignored. All in all, considering that IDC has been quoted in the study, the bogeyman of piracy is brought forth, and there is a quote from Microsoft saying that the OEM versions of Windows and MS Office are cheaper than off-the-shelf purchases, this seems a direct and concerted, but veiled effort to cast aspersions on the opportunity offered by products such as MiLeap etc. Gentlemen, I call FUD. I am also posting this mail as a comment to the article. You are encouraged to add your comments likewise.

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Meet the prophet of free software (on rediff)
by G Karunakar 23 Jan '08

23 Jan '08

Here is an article today on RMS on rediff.. http://www.rediff.com/money/2008/jan/23guest1.htm

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fossconf update
by Kenneth Gonsalves 23 Jan '08

23 Jan '08

hi, just an update on fossconf chennai - we have a good list of speakers - most of them new and speaking for the first time. We have also been able to attract quite a few people from academia. Also a few student groups doing their projects in foss. So we have around 70 good talks - now let us hope we get a good audience to listen to these talks ;-) The talk list is here: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/talks/ -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Net Radio in Linux
by Kartik Mistry 22 Jan '08

22 Jan '08

On Jan 20, 2008 12:00 PM, Rony wrote: > A friend of mine showed me this site for internet radio. It works in > Linux too. Go to www.sky.fm and check out 'Listen Now' on the top and > from the list, select 'MP3 Streams'. A playlist file .pls will be > downloaded. Save it and load the playlist in your audio player. Listen > to good music without RJ yak yak. I selected the 96Kbps stream. As per > the theoritical calculations, one hour of listening takes about 43 MB > download. Also, http://schizoid.in/ and http://radioverve.com/ is 'working' with Linux (Specially, check faq at schizoid.in) without any issues. Check it out! Make sure that you have fat bandwidth too. -- Cheers, Kartik Mistry | 0xD1028C8D | IRC: kart_ blog.ftbfs.in | kartikm.wordpress.com

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