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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 50, Issue 19
by Easwar Hariharan 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

> >How do I switch off SELinux > > go to /etc/selinux/config > > SELINUX=disabled Whoops!No directory named selinux in my /etc.There's security AND securetty though..... on your next reboot it'll be off. > > >and what's the > > > criteria for judging whether I need it or not? > > at the bare minimum : > > 7% performance overhead(plus training incompetent adimins if you have any) I don't,I use Linux at home...... v/s > > Better access control > > > SELinux is for highly critical security needs. Most people don't need it > on > > desktop machines. But it is good thing to learn. > > http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/ > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SELinux > > Positively Brilliant answer :P > > Only a little more clarity would have helped. > > > If I remember correctly MS was against SE(Security-Enhanced) being added > to > > linux. > > and where did you get this from? Please do share it with the rest of us. Thanx Regards, Easwar

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Error running SERVLET program.
by Rishikesh Khanolkar 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

hi, all linuxers........ i have installed sun-java6 and all other required packages required to run java programs, everything compiles and runs fine.For running servlet and JSP i was installing TOMCAT from aptitude package manager which worked succesfully....... but it dint work,i had to manually download tarballs and had to do the installation manually as google is the friend..... but wen i go ahead compiling a servlet program i get "The import javax.servlet cannot be resolved" error, which means that the servlet package are missin, Hope i get some help here, i suspect some servlet API must b required. -- HaVe A Gr8 TiMe, Take Care, Я เรђ เ.

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Re: * Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re:Third time loss of luser account
by jtd 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

On Wednesday 06 June 2007 02:05, Vihan Pandey wrote: > Institution was being funded my M$. Moreover the statement ``while > the software giant does fund the institution, it doesn't fund any > specific research" is pretty dubious :-) Not dubious at all. The statement means M$ did not fund any specific research, therefore consider everything coming from here to be tainted and crap. -- Rgds JTD

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Broadcomm Linux Drivers
by Rony 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

Hello All, Here are 2 useful links to the Broadcom Linux drivers. http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices .....This is the list of devices supported. As the site mentions, new kernels have the drivers in-built. "This driver was included into the Linux kernel since 2.6.17-rc2." -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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A Full Aubuntu.
by Praveen A 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

2007/5/29, Vihan Pandey <vihanpandey(a)gmail.com>: > He is and he has also repeatedly praised the Free Software philosophy > and DOES support efforts regarding the same. But when it comes to developing launchpad, he has chosen not to be with the Free Software community, even though he had the power to decide that. > Try searching for GNU on their website you DO get references to Ubuntu > GNU/Linux, Kubuntu GNU/Linux It is by Ubuntu users and not the official stand of the project. > - It does not give importance to Freedom. > > what exactly are you referring to here? Yes their primary goal is > giving GNU/Linux to the masses > and yes they do make freedom secondary. Only making freedom secondary > does NOT imply that they ignore it all together. You cannot compare > them to a M$. So, I support those who do give Freedom primary importance. "We can lose our freedom again just as we lost it the first time, if we don't care enough to protect it." http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/linux-gnu-freedom.html Surely they are better than M$ (or so i believed before reading the blogs linked below, now I have serious doubts of their intentions), but for me those who value Freedom more than merits is important and Ubuntu isn't one of them yet (they have promised to have a completely Free distribution and I will support that wholeheartedly). > > > - "Ubuntu is and always will be free of charge." there is no guarantee > that it will remain Free Software > > After the M$ Novell deal and a not fully ready GPL v3 yet, how many > projects can guarantee that they will remain Free Software? > "Debian will remain 100% free" from Debian social contract with the Free Software Community http://www.us.debian.org/social_contract "gNewSense is Free Software, its mission is to deliver these freedoms to you:" http://www.gnewsense.org/Main/Mission and others http://www.gnu.org/links/links.html#FreeGNULinuxDistributions > > - On the contrary, they have clearly stated their willingness to > include non-free softwares in their distribution. > > They do include proprietary drivers so new users can use the system, > but other than that what other non free software are they packaging > into Ubuntu? There are Free drivers which work for most of the cases. "There are people like Torvalds that will pressure our community into use of a non-free program, and challenge anyone who complains to provide a (technically) better program immediately or shut up." http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/linux-gnu-freedom.html > > > - They don't believe in Free Software. > Is this your opinion or did a Canonical/Ubuntu representative say > this? If yes please do give that link as well. It is my opinion (after all it is in my talk page, and other claims not mine are given proper references). Some more about launchpad and the dangers of a proprietary format: "What Canonical is trying to achieve here is to collect all the work that the free software have made and will made, and put them under their control. ............ , we all depend on Canonical to continue providing the service." http://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/archives/60-Launchpad,-Google-and-why-M… he continues: "................By good marketing, clever programming and commercial pressure, they locked in a lot of people to use Microsoft products and formats. This is evil, but we have found a solution to that: reverse engineering and Free Software. Microsoft can be coped with. But Google and Launchpad were even cleverer. Instead of locking something in, they open everything: It is free, it has nice usable APIs to integrate in applications, and they suck all that opened data in and keep ahold of it. And while Microsoft has a record of doing a bad job when it comes to technical quality, thus helps the alternative, non-evil, Free Software, Google, and probably Launchpad, excels in what they doing, thus reducing the immediate need for alternatives altogether." > > Again, do you have a web > link that states this? There much more in this study http://charismacode.blogspot.com/2007/01/powers-and-repositories-ubuntu-and… > Nor do i > want to restrict them by saying it will work only if you have this > hardware it works else it won't - in fact that gives them the > impression that it is me that is conditioning their freedom :-) Except for th 3D stuff the Free drivers work for ATI and NVIDIA. Now if everyone start shipping the non-free drivers what is the incentive for those who provide Free drivers or the developer who reverse engineer it. I guess I will need to split the reply as it might not go through the size limit. Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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confusing results with off line package installation in ubuntu.
by krishnakant Mane 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

hello every one. I according to some suggestions on this list, tried apt on cd and was very much happy with its results. I even wrote a testifying email a few days back. but now I got a strange result which has confused me. I did try my new "ubuntu extra softwares " as I call it cd on another newly installed machine. I had created this cd using apton cd from my computer. configurations of both the machines are same. now when I added the cd into the apt list with sudo apt-cdrom add, it took it happily. but when I said sudo apt-get update the updates did not happen. the error was "some index files failed to download, ignoring or using the older ones". and then I tried sudo apt-get upgrade which some how went fine. some packages were replaced for sure. I then again did sudo apt-get upgrade just to make sure that all is fine. this time I got a list of few packages which were held back. in the list there was the generic kernel headers and modules. this is very surprising for me as it should have taken these packages for the update/ upgrade as well. I just created the cd yesterday and tried it on a very newly installed machine which did not take any updates from internet. the first update ever on that newly installed machine was from my cd. this further surprised me as there should be no clashing packages. the next stunning hitback I got on my face was when I said sudo apt-get install inkscape. here the message was a streight "borken package ". now I know that it is the same inkscape that runs on my machine and I had tried an older apt on cd made disk on another machine where inkscape was happily installed through the cd. but this new cd gives errors of borken package for all the packages. how can this happen. any idea what must be going wrong? one pointer is that when I create the disk using apt on cd, it excludes some packages may be because they are older updates? not sure though. kindly explain. regards, Krishnakant.

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Re:Third time loss of luser account
by Easwar Hariharan 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

Hi, > There was....but I a newbie thought it was for checkin my HDD which I was > > sure was in perfect condition. > DVD Media should be all right as you were able to install. Right.... > 1.Your home directory is listed as /home/easwarh but it doesn't seem to > > exist.Do you want to login with the root directory as your home > > directory?It's unlikely anything will work unless you do so. > > Options:Yes No.....I selected Yes and proceeded..... > This means for some reason mandrake is failing to mount /home partition > during > boot process. Main reasons could be > 1. May be some bug in distro. > 2. Just guess: Your SELINUX is enabled. Some policy failure during boot > process is causing disabled access to /home partition. Let us know if you > use > home partition from outside of mandrake, eg. from windows OR other linux > install. > Also you can switch of SELINUX if not needed. Nope...I am not accessing Linux partitions from Windows and there's no other Linux on my system.How do I switch off SELinux and what's the criteria for judging whether I need it or not? > 2.$HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored.Your home directory /home/easwarh > > either doesn't exist or you are not the owner.Home directory should have > > 644 permissions and not be writable by other users. > If home is not mounted nothing on home will be visible. > Try googling .dmrc selinux. Will do that..... If same problem occurs in future please do following. > 1. Go to command line login as root. > Check log file /var/log/dmsg, /var/log/messages OR /var/log/syslog for any > failure during boot. > 2. Don't panic use following commands > sh# mount #you should see all mounted partitions, see if /home is > mounted, > if not give next command > sh#mount -a #it should mount your home partition, verify using mount > 3. If everything goes fine goto gui login prompt and try login. > 4. Let us know if it worked. > 5. You can bzip and mail me offlist your log > files /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog. > System logs might be having useful info about previous incidents. Search > logs > by date and time when last incident occurred. Ok......but last time,ie third time I deleted Mandriva partitions and reinstalled,so system logs not available.......the system log might be available for this time ie the time for which I have posted these messages where the reboot did the job..... Regards, Easwar

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POSIX
by Rony 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

Hello All, This link is informative about about POSIX. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] POSIX
by Kartik Mistry 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

On 6/5/07 Dinesh Joshi <dinesh.a.joshi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 20:01 +0530, Rony wrote: > > If I surf and find useful pages, I post them. Members have a choice to > > delete my mails. > > Yes Rony bhai, they have the choice to delete your mails and they > equally have a choice ( and a right which they wish to exercise ) to > complain :/ Yes. I am putting filters now for my IceDove for you both. But, I am wondering why do you think that what you are reading is in benefit of All LUG members? Please grow up. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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Multimedia Packages CD
by Roshan 06 Jun '07

06 Jun '07

All, Most of us install software on our distro (specifically *buntu) using the internet There are odd times, when the hard disk may crash (physical). (or the hdd may blow up due to power surges etc.) For a typical Microsoft Windows user, for freewares, one can ask for setup files from friends and install them back again, after buying a new hard disk ` For *buntu, one would have to download it again from the internet consuming data bytes, for something that was previously downloaded. Therefore, there are several options to it, with one of them suggested by one of my friend. The .deb files of those packages (specifically multimedia ones) could be downloaded for once (from where?) and copied onto a CD. This CD could be used again and again at different places. However, there are few more questions related to this. 1. Apt will and does resolve dependency while downloading / installing packages from the internet. Would there be dependency issues while installing it from CD. If yes, how could this be solved (by copying the required files / libs on to the CD) 2. Does the DVD of *buntu distros have enough multimedia packages which can be installed without the dependency problem? Please note, the reason this initiative has come into picture is that the usage of the Internet is critically limited, in terms of downloads. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Looking for people who are YOUR TYPE? Find them at in.groups.yahoo.com

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Request to all listers, please encourage people don't bash!!!
by krishnakant Mane 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

hello all, off late I am finding that good listers who keep on posting interesting material including links are being constantly bashed and discouraged. I am refering particularly to the latest email sent by roni and the subsiquent bashing and flaiming by other lister. look, keep your personal "dis interests " to your self. I remember including myself, many have problems with broadcom devices. recently I had raised an issue about the latest kernel updates that pleasingly surprised me. after this roni sent a link or 2 about the same information so that people on this list facing similar problems could benifit. I think this list is very much for sharing knowledge about gnu/linux and roni did not send any non-interesting stuff just because the flaimer feels so. I believe such kind of responses sends a bad signal to those who like to help others. I found the links very useful and may be others facing similar problems will find them useful too. roni, keep up the good work of sharing knowledge. regards, Krishnakant.

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mail server restrictions
by Kamal Paryani 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

can we have a restriction on any linux based mta namely a particular user is allowed to send email to only list of authorized mail address - say a list of 20 people , he should not be allowed to send mail to anybody besides the people on this list thanks and best regards kamal

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Re: A meet next week
by Easwar Hariharan 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

> > > >> Can't we make it to the 10th,a weekend?Even 9th would do......And > > >> please no > > >> location confusion this time around....... > > > > > > I second that. Please make it after the 9th. > > > > i third that as i well also be there on 9th and 10th > > > > well our guest is not around till 9th/10th unless you want to go to > Kolkata or Kerala. > the meet must happen before 7th. > Well,then count atleast me out.....my engg exams are on and they extend upto the 8th..... Regards, Easwar

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Re: Request to all listers, please encourage people don't bash!!!
by Kartik Mistry 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

On 6/5/07, "krishnakant Mane" <researchbase(a)gmail.com> wrote: > and roni did not send any non-interesting stuff just because the > flaimer feels so. Go Rony Go!! ;) -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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pleasingly surprised with vifi on compaq nx7300
by krishnakant Mane 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

hello all and roni in particular. roni, if you remember we tried hard to get the vifi working on my compaq laptop at your house. today after I updated ubuntu feisty I find it perfectly working out of the box! now my only question is that if I happen to format the laptop any time, wil just the updates help me or will I also need to install that broad com driver the way we both did? I want to know from any one who has tried broadcom if linux comes with free modules in the latest kernel? what I am really confused is the fact that just an update fixt my vifi problem. so is this a pure linux driver that has done the trick or is it a combination of the firmware and the kernel? can some one answer this? by the way in the updates list I found that the kernel modules were included and this time around the system demanded a reboot after the updates were applied. this implies that it was not a software update but a serious change to the kernel. regards, Krishnakant.

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Re:Third time loss of luser account
by Easwar Hariharan 05 Jun '07

05 Jun '07

Hi, > > > > > > > > > I don't trust LFY CD/DVDs. > > > > > > This is speculation / knee-jerk reaction.. the OP needs to clearly > > > communicate the symptoms and other observations before we conclude > > > on whether its a rootkit OR bad media. > > Isn't there a mediacheck option when booting from the Mandriva DVD? There was....but I a newbie thought it was for checkin my HDD which I was sure was in perfect condition. Well,the symptoms reoccurred without loss of acoount thankfully.....a simple reboot did the job..... The messages from when I entered my username and password were as follows:[Not verbatim,they were to the same effect and AFAIRemember,these were those :) ] 1.Your home directory is listed as /home/easwarh but it doesn't seem to exist.Do you want to login with the root directory as your home directory?It's unlikely anything will work unless you do so. Options:Yes No.....I selected Yes and proceeded..... 2.$HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored.Your home directory /home/easwarh either doesn't exist or you are not the owner.Home directory should have 644 permissions and not be writable by other users. Options:Ok...I selected the only option available and proceeded.... My desktop background appeared and there was a dialog box at the top left corner which stated: 3.Couldn't start kconfig(or something like that). Options:Okay....I selected that button coz there was nothing else to click on!It sent me back to the login screen from where I rebooted and when I came back and logged in,everything was fine like a clear,sunny day....... Regards, Easwar

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A small liberty.....
by Easwar Hariharan 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Hi all, There is a small campaign going on in a community GNU/Linux (spamfree) on orkut to spread the use of Linux.....owing to my contacts in both the community and this list,I have taken the liberty of directing them to the LUG Bombay wiki to use the brochures which have been created there as a template cum source of info........hopefully,no one minds the use of those brochures,eh? Regards, Easwar

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AST on Operating System objectives
by Vihan Pandey 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Hello everyone, i guess there has been a ton of flaming on the matter of mircokernels off late(most of it by me :-). There have also been ubiquitous wikipedia links all over the place about POSIX, microkernels etc etc etc. All of which led me to sit a give the entire microkernel concept an another look. The result being, i thought it best to cool down and get a fresh perspective on things : http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/reliable-os/ Yes it's written by AST :-) and it is a VERY informative article and it DOES considers Linus' point of view as well. Thought it best to share it with the list :-) Regards, - vihan

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Atul has Tagged you! :)
by Atul Agrawal 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

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Re:Third time loss of luser account
by Kartik Mistry 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

On 5/29/07 Easwar Hariharan wrote: > Hi, > I am using Mandriva 07 installed from a LFY DVD.It's the free version. > I have not used any other distro as yet coz I am still a newbie. I don't trust LFY CD/DVDs. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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Re:A meet next week
by Easwar Hariharan 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

> > Well, if he's here on the 3rd, why not make the meet happen on the 3rd > itself. > since they're all weekdays, any of them should do... but in the late > evenings only. Can't we make it to the 10th,a weekend?Even 9th would do......And please no location confusion this time around....... btw, is it gonna be a proper lug meet? if so, are there any talks lined up? > I'd like to give a talk on the just-released Fedora 7, and the changes it > brings > with it, and the new features it has. I would like to know more about it too....... Regards, Easwar

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Microkernel
by Rony 04 Jun '07

04 Jun '07

Hello All, Those who find words like 'microkernel' Greek and Latin can look up this link. :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microkernel -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Re: Multimedia Packages CD
by Vickram Crishna 03 Jun '07

03 Jun '07

--- Roshan wrote: > Please note, the reason this initiative has come > into > picture is that the usage of the Internet is > critically limited, in terms of downloads. > One of the reasons the Mowgli initiative has been taken is to try and address this problem in a meaningful fashion, at least for now, for Mumbaikars. Nagarjuna has already announced that the HBCSE server is available for us all to store critical data like this. I am sure that as the idea builds up steam, more space like this will become locally available, in more parts of the city. The cost aspect that Roshan refers to 1. applies only to priced ISP services, which are currently designed to be as usurious and unfriendly as possible, and 2. will be free for local public data networks. Aside from the possibility of downloading it free, it will also be possible to easily go and physically get a copy from HBCSE, or any of the servers we think will become a key part of this mesh. Vickram ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

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[ARTICLE]: "How hard is it to run Windows app on Linux?"
by Roshan 03 Jun '07

03 Jun '07

This article, short and sweet, is about the question raised (subject) by a 10 year old. :) http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2007-06-01-023-26-OP-SW-PB -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Download prohibited? No problem! To chat from any browser without download, Click Here: http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

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A Full Aubuntu.
by Rony 03 Jun '07

03 Jun '07

Hello All, The recent war of distros on our list made me wonder if the Ubuntu OS available with all desktops, like a complete selective installation just like Mandriva or Fedora? I must say Mandriva's installer is very good as it allows fine tuning devices before the installation begins. U, Ku, Edu and X makers could come together to make this complete distro. An All-Ubuntu can be called Aubuntu. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Fwd: fedora for ARM
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lennert Buytenhek <buytenh(a)wantstofly.org> Date: 02-Jun-2007 08:59 Subject: fedora for ARM To: fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com Hi all, I haven't been active on this mailing list since 2004 or so, so let me (re-)introduce myself. I'm Lennert Buytenhek, and I live in the Netherlands. As far as open source contributions go (other things I've done probably aren't very interesting), in the past I have written an ext2 resizer (called ext2resize), contributed ext2 support to PartEd, rewrote the bridging support in Linux 2.3.something, hacked on User Mode Linux, and a bunch of other stuff, and these days, among other things, I am occasionally seen hacking on ARM Linux kernel Things. Recently, I produced an unofficial (but-seems-to-work-all-right) port of FC6 to the ARM architecture (after having ported FC2/3/4 to ARM in the past): http://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/fedora/ The current set of diffs[*][**] is available for inspection here: http://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/fedora/diffs/ I'm posting here because I would really really like to get the relevant diffs merged back into Fedora. I believe that ARM is well-supported in the various upstream projects that Fedora packages, and so this should be a relatively painless process (if you look at the diffs referenced above, most diffs are actually only spec file changes to cope with the addition of a new architecture.) I'll follow up with a mail with thoughts about secondary architectures. thanks, Lennert [*] Some of which were produced by Russell King (ARM Linux kernel maintainer) or Ralph Siemsen (Netwinder project.) [**] NB: not necessarily the same set that we'll end up submitting for inclusion. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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Re:A meet next week
by Easwar Hariharan 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

> > > > > Mohan Nayaka wrote: > > > On 6/1/07, Easwar Hariharan <meindian523(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> I would like to know more about it too....... > > >> > > > Then shed your fears and install it! > > > > I have the Fedora 7 i386 ISO available (fedora has a DVD iso only), > > contact me off-list if one can come to goregaon along with something to > > copy it on (i do not have access to a dvd-writer as of now). The iso > > size is close to 3GB. I thought this thread was supposed to decide the timing and location of the meet. ;) It's going OT day-by-day....... I'm busy downloading the F7 x86_64 DVD iso, so can carry it across to > the venue. maybe i can even show you all a test install on a lappy that > i carry with me. Anyways, i'm just waiting for my connection to get > upgraded > to 1mbps (happening round the 11th of june, then i'll get my hands dirty > with > pungi and build my own *everything* 2-3 DVD install, a-la debian. Where's Nagarjuna?He's got to take the call regarding when and where the meet will take place..... Regards, Easwar

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RGF-Sarai CSDS programme for short-term FLOSS fellowships
by Frederick Noronha 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

Call for proposals: RGF-Sarai, CSDS, short-term FLOSS fellowships 1 Introduction The Sarai programme of the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies, Delhi (http://www.sarai. net) is pleased to announce fellowships for projects related to Free/Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS) activities. This year, we have partnered with the Rajiv Gandhi Foundation (RGF) who are providing support for work in the specific area of computing, and localisation in five Indian languages, namely, Assamese, Hindi, Kashmiri, Oriya, and Urdu. We also invite proposals from projects in other FLOSS areas, especially ones that are relevant to educational, social, and community needs. Any project that meets the criteria given below is eligible for the fellowships, but we are particularly interested in: o Indian language computing, including work on fonts, rendering, locales, input methods, spell-checking, etc., as well as in advanced technologies like OCR, handwriting recognition, and speech-to-text. o Localisation into Indian languages of user interfaces, and translation of help documents for FLOSS applications. o In the interest of sustained development, we would like to see the enhancement of, and extensions for projects funded as part of past Sarai FLOSS fellowships. In particular, we draw attention to NewsRack (http://newsrack.in), Hindawi (http://www.indicybers.com), and ApnaOpus (http://apnaopus.var.cc). o Documentation for users of FLOSS tools, particularly in the area of Indian language computing. The production of video tutorials would be welcome. o Development of graphics, multimedia, and publishing tools. This would include applications for audio/video editing, animation, and desktop publishing. Enhancement of existing FLOSS tools is especially encouraged. o Putting together, distributing, and supporting a complete Indian language distribution, using FLOSS operating systems, and tools. o Collaboration software, and groupware solutions. o Writing Linux device drivers, and front-ends for common hardware, such as wireless cards, graphics cards, scanners, and printers. The other significant difference from past practice is that we will be asking for more of a collaborative approach from the fellows, both among one another, and with people at Sarai. The collaboration need not be in the actual development, but can consist of an ongoing conversation about one's work, its direction, and current status. While this has been an implicit expectation in the past, this time we are making the requirement explicit. The exact details of these will be worked out with the selected fellows, but will include things like discussions over IRC, email, and postings on the Sarai Project Resource Centre (PRC) mailing list. Fellows will also be asked to prepare a timeline for the projects, with intermediate milestones, and will be expected to adhere to them. 2 Applying for the fellowships We invite students, developers, researchers, and practitioners interested in the FLOSS arena to apply for the fellowships. While there is no prescribed format for the applications, we expect them to be in sufficient detail for a reviewer to sensibly evaluate them. Attention to details, such as a plan of work that addresses what is possible to accomplish within the limited project period, a projection of how the work might be continued after that, and a discussion of the possible impact of the project, is strongly recommended. In particular, we will look favourably on projects aimed at eventual deployment, rather than development per se. Please mail your application, along with a resume, to floss at sarai.net , with the subject line of "RGF-Sarai FLOSS fellowships". As this information is intended to be public, also subscribe to the PRC mailing list at https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/prc, and post a copy there, failing which your final proposal will be forwarded there by one of us. Enquiries are invited at floss at sarai.net , and on the PRC list, including questions on how to frame proposals. The last date of submission is midnight IST on Sun., June 25th, 2007. The projects will run for a total of about six months, with a final workshop to be held at Sarai, CSDS, Delhi, where the fellows will be expected to present a summary of their work. Besides this, as part of our engagement with the RGF, we will be holding workshops in regional locations, and the FLOSS fellows will be asked to be present at events local to them. The total amount of the fellowship will be Rs. 70, 000. Conditions and other details see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa

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Re: * Re: [ILUG-BOM] A Full Aubuntu.
by jtd 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

On Friday 01 June 2007 14:28, Praveen A wrote: > 2007/6/1, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)au-kbc.org>: > > this is pure BS. No one migrates to foss/linux because of > > freedom. They migrate because it works. The guys who are mouthing > > off about freedom have been struggling for 20 years to build a > > kernel While the observation from the "effect" side is true AND a view from the technical side is also true the fact is that technical "superiority" lasts for a tiny fraction of the lifetime of a software package and is at best a very limited view of reality. The fact is that technical superiority is the result of freedom to collaborate, which is completely lacking in closed software. This inspite of closed software having vastly larger numbers and resources for both users and developers. Infact the entire edifice of closed software based on actively restricting collaboration and is so shaky it's a wonder it has managed to survive so long. The irony is that most of the apps bringing in revenue are the one trying to enable chargeable collaboration in every sphere. Further the technical superiority argument is a red herring and the "failure" of hurd and thousands of other open software are because of innumerable factors that has nothing to do with freedom. The visibility of failure is also due to the openeness of development. Has any body counted the number of failed efforts of closed companies?. In the oganisations i have seen in the past the ratio was 1 success for 5 failures. And by FOSS standards these successes would at best been labeled alpha software. Like all things free, it's value is realised when someone else has to pick the tab for the cleanup - be it air, water or freedom. Let's not mixup cause and effect. While one is fully justified in using some arbitary dfinition of success / tech superiority etc in ones metrics One cannot subvert freedom as a result of these measurements so that the stats look good. -- Rgds JTD

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A meet next week
by Nagarjuna G. 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

My collaborator in the SELF project, and President of FSF Europe, Georg Greve, will be visiting HBCSE, TIFR next week, from monday to thursday. He is in India from 3rd June till 15th June. He leads the free software movement in Europe. He was to come for the SELF Conference during February, but due to problems with planning he could not make it. Please let me know which day should we have a meeting in Mumbai. And friends in other locations, let me know if you like to invite him for an event, we can explore a possibility. more about him at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_C._F._Greve SELF Project http://selfproject.eu -- Nagarjuna G.

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install ubuntu without cdrom
by Kamal Paryani 31 May '07

31 May '07

hi i need to install ubuntu on a PIII laptop of which the cdrom drive is bad the laptop does not support booting from external usb cdroms in windows world i would have removed the laptop hard disk and connected it to other pc make it bootable and transfer the setup cab files on to it , put it back on the laptop and run setup but i a dont know how it can be done in linux can i connect this hard disk to some other machine install ubuntu and then put it back in the laptop and then would ubuntu re-detect all the hardware or any other idea help ?? thanks regards

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A Full Aubuntu.
by Praveen A 31 May '07

31 May '07

continuing with my earlier reply 2007/5/29, Vihan Pandey <vihanpandey(a)gmail.com>: > - Ubuntu translations does not respect upstream, they are forks. The > Rosetta translations don't go upstream (It is good in one way since > the quality of the translations are very poor)Again, do you have a web > link that states this? "However, by studying and taking part in the translation of KDE to Norwegian I have reached something like a tentative, partial and temporary "conclusion". That conclusion, to put it very briefly, is that there is something ... (fishy?) about Launchpad. Now, here is the story that has led me to this ad hoc and provisional conclusion." http://charismacode.blogspot.com/2007/01/powers-and-repositories-ubuntu-and… It has the details of the experiment he did. "Rosetta acts and exists as if it is independent of upstream." - again the same study. > > > So for me gNewSense, Debian, Fedora ... are much more important than > > Ubuntu (but again it is better than Windows, Suse ...). > > As a Debian user myself, i would rather give Debian to someone wanting > to to startup with GNU/Linux, however i don't want them to break their > heads on building drivers in their 1st attempt at install. Nor do i > want to restrict them by saying it will work only if you have this > hardware it works else it won't - in fact that gives them the > impression that it is me that is conditioning their freedom :-) We are almost there to have complete Free Softwares and if we lose now, why did we do it all along? we could all have sit content with proprietary software. > > > Freedom aspect > > is not the top priority for Ubuntu (Ubuntu website highlights Free of > > Cost availability). > > agreed. That is why I said I cannot recommend ubuntu to anyone. > > no, i meant - has anyone asked Canonical why is Launchpad not Free Software ? There has been discussions on this. Again from the study: "Over time, it will be open sourced. Right now we compete with Progeny and Red Hat and other companies, so we need to have a unique offering to do so effectively, and that's Launchpad. There are already libraries and tools in LP that we have open sourced on request, especially in Rosetta, the translation infrastructure. ..." Mark Shuttleworth "... to me, the only logical conclusion to that is that LaunchPad will be free when Canonical/Ubuntu are the only players in the market, or when Canonical's current business model fails and they switch to a different one. Which is fine: if you write some software from scratch, it's your choice what you do with it; but unless you're an underpants gnome or a slashdot commenter, the above doesn't qualify as a "plan" to free LaunchPad." - Anthony Towns, previous debian project leader. > > > Debian uses only Free Software for its infrastructure and it promises > > to give back to the community any new tools created. > > agreed. I believe that is a very important quality for a member in the Free Software community. If all they do is take everything in and not give anything back then that is not good for the community. > > > see the wiki link. It is not just launchpad, the entire data stored in > > the infrastructure is in proprietary format (Remember the case of > > bitkeeper). > > Well, at the end of the day it got dumped for git and if all you say > is true for launchpad it won't last very long either. is it a prediction? > i would rather give Debian to someone over any other distro ANY day, > only one can't do that all the time. If everyone i met was a techie > and willing to > go the extra mile - yes it works, only life isn't always like that. > The normal non > techie user DOES count. I'm working on debian to make it easier for new users, so are many. > > Sometimes it not so bad if you hold a child's hand while it is > learning to walk :-) I would love to do it myself rather than depending on someone else. > > > You will have to use a non-free program to participate in ubuntu > > development and your contributions will be stored in a proprietary > > format, you could retrieve it only through that program (remember > > bitkeeper). > > i do and i also remember how it was chucked out and replaced by git. Do you know why it was chucked out? the bitkeeper guys said, enough you can't use it any more. Here the case is different. Both guys are the same. Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Apple agrees to DRM free music on the iTunes store
by Vihan Pandey 31 May '07

31 May '07

Hello everyone, Apple has finally succeeded in convincing EMI(a major record label :-) to keep its music DRM free and available on the iTunes store. It's good to see that Steve Jobs managed to convince them to do it :-) http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/02itunes.html Its a step in the right direction, i hope more will follow :-) i really wish they would take out a Free Software version of iTunes now :-) /me hopes... Regard, - vihan

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Fwd: [Ilug-cal-discuss] [Fwd: [ilugd] [Commercial] TYPO3/PHP Developer]
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 31 May '07

31 May '07

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] A Full Aubuntu.
by Kartik Mistry 31 May '07

31 May '07

Mrugesh Karnik wrote: > > > what about gnewsense? > > All these `freedom fighters' should not use Ubuntu. It provides access to > non-free software. Ditch. It's not listed on GNU's list of free > distributions. Use only one of the free distros listed there, none other. If > you don't follow that, shut up and stop preaching about freedom and blah > blah. Freedom comes with right to choose whatever you want. Non-Free too. Provide access and comes with default-non-free-stuffs are different things (If you can understand it). So, Speakup and don't shut up. Raise your voice, dudes. <Add some blah blah... n times here> -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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[Newbie] Linux distribution Guide
by Roshan 31 May '07

31 May '07

URL Summary: >From LXer.com " This is a brief 4 page guide to the world of Linux distributions, primarily aimed at individuals who are new to the Linux scene, and who are thinking about taking the plunge and trying Linux for the first time." http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/news/staticpages/index.php?page=2007052809… -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Download prohibited? No problem! To chat from any browser without download, Click Here: http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] A Full Aubuntu.
by Sachin Gopal 31 May '07

31 May '07

Fact is free or not Ubuntu seems to have done a lot for free software by just being insanely (hyperbole) popular. Stick to one ideology and you are doomed to be one with the dinosaurs as there is no change. hypocrisy is a boon and a curse to our society -- live with it! -- Regards, Sachin Gopal Indian Pneumatic & Hydraulic Co. Pvt Ltd.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] A Full Aubuntu.
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 31 May '07

31 May '07

> "Over time, it will be open sourced. Right now we compete with Progeny > and Red Hat and other companies, so we need to have a unique offering > to do so effectively, and that's Launchpad. There are already libraries and > tools in LP that we have open sourced on request, especially in Rosetta, > the translation infrastructure. ..." MarkShuttleworth http://progeny.com/ It seems that Canonical is closer to its goal of being the 'unique' (read monopoly) company that it wants to be. No matter what the reason is for Progeny to cease operations, the end result is that there is one less competitor for Canonical. Regards, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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Re:Third time loss of luser account
by Easwar Hariharan 30 May '07

30 May '07

Hi, Dhawal wrote: pebkac: "Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair", this IMO is the > reason for most lost/overwritten data.. > > Read my previous mail again.. > > An empty directory with a lost+found is generally seen for an empty > partition.. perhaps the /home that you see from mandriva and the one you > see from knoppix are different.. > > Compare the output of the "mount" and "df -h" command.. in both cases. I can't now,coz I deleted my partitions and remade them,thus destroying any possible rootkits. Rony wrote: > /home folder does not need special root privileges to read. Why did you > not see the /home files as Mandriva's root? Knoppix root can read files > of normally working distros. If you had a bad installation there is a > good possibility that your file system is corrupted. If you are using a > separate home partition, is it exclusively used for Mandriva or did you > use it for another distro too? Try doing a clean install by formating > all your partitions needed for Mandriva. As far as installation is > concerned Mandriva installs flawlessly. If your copy of media is bad, > get another one. If you can't get another one, let me know. 1st Question:I don't know.I am a newbie,remember? 2nd Q:My home partition is exclusively Mandriva's. The clean install is already done.....will try to get another media to make sure whether it's the media or something else.... Regards, Easwar

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Re:Third time loss of luser account
by Easwar Hariharan 30 May '07

30 May '07

Hi, Kenneth wrote: > have you been rootkitted? I don't think so.I have downloaded only music and the flash-plugin for FF rpm. > BTW,Right now,it doesn't matter,since my home was on cd,i deleted my > mandriva partitions and remade them and reinstalled. > Lucky you,looks like it's my copy of the DVD that has a problem.BTW,I have never had a completely unhindered install.Always the Mandriva theme is not properly installed.Could that be a part of the reason? > Dhawal wrote: > An empty directory with a lost+found is generally seen for an empty > > > partition.. perhaps the /home that you see from mandriva and the one > > you see from knoppix are different.. > > When I see from mandriva,i click on the home icon on my desktop and when I > see from knoppix,i click on the home partition (hda6),I don't think that's > abnormal. ;) > Easwar, see my reply to your earlier mail. Data doesn't get > lost/overwritten randomly.. it is mostly pebkac. What's pebkac?It was not lost/overwritten,it was not visible within Mandriva ie it had a physical existence but was not visible within Mandriva but visible from Konsole of Knoppix live cd. > Rony wrote: > > Your hard disk could be getting baddy baddy or FS is corrupted. BTW, > > what is an luser account and how different is it from user? > > > The luser account is the same as the user account. > > > Again, corrupted files? > > > Please see the next sentence or para.I chowned my way there.It was > inaccessible because i was not the owner.(I was Knoppix root,NOT Mandriva > root) > > Regards, > Easwar >

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RE:Let's Call MS's bluff
by Easwar Hariharan 30 May '07

30 May '07

Hi, Add your names to the Sue Me First MS list at: http://digitaltippingpoint.com/wiki/index.php?title=SMFM_list_page_11 It is a list already upto page 11 where linuxers put up their names,distro,PC config and purpose of use of Linux and call MS's bluff that Linux contains proprietary(read as MS) code and is emulating development path of Windows......it should actually be the other way round.....;) Regards, Easwar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] A Full Aubuntu.
by Vihan Pandey 30 May '07

30 May '07

> > To paraphrase what GNU has said : We must not judge all of a person by just > > part of what they do. > > I thought he was the founder (and main funder) of Ubuntu and Canonical. He is and he has also repeatedly praised the Free Software philosophy and DOES support efforts regarding the same. http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki > I, for one, don't use Ubuntu anymore, don't recommend it any more > until they fix these issues that's your freedom to choose. > http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/User:Pravs/What_Ubuntu_should_do_to_regain_my_con… here how i reply to that : - It does not give credit to the GNU project. Try searching for GNU on their website you DO get references to Ubuntu GNU/Linux, Kubuntu GNU/Linux - It does not give importance to Freedom. what exactly are you referring to here? Yes their primary goal is giving GNU/Linux to the masses and yes they do make freedom secondary. Only making freedom secondary does NOT imply that they ignore it all together. You cannot compare them to a M$. - "Ubuntu is and always will be free of charge." there is no guarantee that it will remain Free Software After the M$ Novell deal and a not fully ready GPL v3 yet, how many projects can guarantee that they will remain Free Software? - On the contrary, they have clearly stated their willingness to include non-free softwares in their distribution. They do include proprietary drivers so new users can use the system, but other than that what other non free software are they packaging into Ubuntu? - They don't believe in Free Software. Free Software is only for software which other people develop (Launchpad is non-free software), we will have a commercial advantage in keeping launchpad proprietary, we might release it if we can't make much money out of it. If you want to contribute to Ubuntu you will have to use a non-free software which stores your data in a proprietary format. Is this your opinion or did a Canonical/Ubuntu representative say this? If yes please do give that link as well. - Ubuntu translations does not respect upstream, they are forks. The Rosetta translations don't go upstream (It is good in one way since the quality of the translations are very poor)Again, do you have a web link that states this? Also, didn't you say your concern was Ubuntu's ``lack of respect of freedom/GNU" and not their software quality. If that was true why are you mentioning this point at all? > So for me gNewSense, Debian, Fedora ... are much more important than > Ubuntu (but again it is better than Windows, Suse ...). As a Debian user myself, i would rather give Debian to someone wanting to to startup with GNU/Linux, however i don't want them to break their heads on building drivers in their 1st attempt at install. Nor do i want to restrict them by saying it will work only if you have this hardware it works else it won't - in fact that gives them the impression that it is me that is conditioning their freedom :-) > Freedom aspect > is not the top priority for Ubuntu (Ubuntu website highlights Free of > Cost availability). agreed. > > By the way - has anyone done this so far? > > > > I didn't get it. Did you mean anyone released their distro infrastructure? no, i meant - has anyone asked Canonical why is Launchpad not Free Software ? > Debian uses only Free Software for its infrastructure and it promises > to give back to the community any new tools created. agreed. > "When we write new components of the Debian system, we will license > them in a manner consistent with the Debian Free Software Guidelines." > http://www.us.debian.org/social_contract agreed and respected. > see the wiki link. It is not just launchpad, the entire data stored in > the infrastructure is in proprietary format (Remember the case of > bitkeeper). Well, at the end of the day it got dumped for git and if all you say is true for launchpad it won't last very long either. > And Ubuntu does not give credit to the GNU project. Try searching for GNU on their website you DO get references to Ubuntu GNU/Linux, Kubuntu GNU/Linux. > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/linux-gnu-freedom.html agreed. > So for me Ubuntu is down the list of Free Software distributions and I > would support all distributions that gives Freedom more importance > than ease of use/technical merit. i would rather give Debian to someone over any other distro ANY day, only one can't do that all the time. If everyone i met was a techie and willing to go the extra mile - yes it works, only life isn't always like that. The normal non techie user DOES count. Sometimes it not so bad if you hold a child's hand while it is learning to walk :-) > You will have to use a non-free program to participate in ubuntu > development and your contributions will be stored in a proprietary > format, you could retrieve it only through that program (remember > bitkeeper). i do and i also remember how it was chucked out and replaced by git. > Again I have no personal hatred against Mark Shuttleworth. i never said so :-) > He has done > a wonderful job in getting GNU/Linux to masses and he is a great > speaker and amazingly good at convincing people. agreed. > But that doesn't mean > I have to agree to everything he does. absolute agreement :-) Regards, - vihan

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[COMMERCIAL] Software Engineer - i18n position in Red Hat (Pune)
by Rahul Bhalerao 30 May '07

30 May '07

Hi, The job details are as follows: Division: Red Hat Location: Pune, IN Travel Involved: Not Specified Job Type: Full Time Job Level: 2+ years experience Education: Bachelors Degree or Equivalent Skills: Category: Engineering Compensation: Not Specified Position Summary: Designs, modifies, develops, writes and implements software programming applications. Supports and/or installs software applications. Focuses on developing and maintaining applications used in the internationalization and localization of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, specifically for their native Language use. Essential Duties and Responsibilities: * Implement and maintain applications specific to their native language, such as input methods * Perform native language specific quality assurance of Linux Desktops * Participate in weekly team meetings and coordinate activities with dependant teams Requirements To perform this job successfully, an individual must be able to perform each essential duty satisfactorily. * Bachelors Degree majoring in Information Technology or Computer Science or Arts/Languages. * Minimum of two years related experience and/or training; or equivalent combination of education and experience. * Ability to read and interpret English language technical documents. Ability to speak native language and business level English * Computer Skills: Previous experience developing Linux Desktop applications. Understanding and experience with object-oriented design and coding. Experience developing applications for GTK/GNOME and QT/KDE. Knowledge of basic Software Engineering concepts: development models, testing, and documentation. Interested candidates may send their CVs in Open Document format to smohan(a)redhat.com with "Software Engineer (i18n)" in the subject line.

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Third time loss of luser account
by Easwar Hariharan 30 May '07

30 May '07

Hi, I have had a prety bad experience with Mandriva 07.I have lost THREE luser accounts and all my docs,pics and music twice coz the third time today,I used a Knoppix 5.0 live CD.The typical error message is that the $HOME/._dmrc file or something like that is being ignored coz either i either don't own my HOME or it does not exist at all! Another paradox is that when I login to mandriva with root (/root) as my home directory,my /home is empty except for an empty lost+found folder but when I browse to the same location thru the Knoppix live CD,it showed me my stuff though it was inaccessible to me.I 'su'ed to root in Konsole in live CD,chowned the Home folder,umounted the D: partition and mounted it with - w.Though I now have all my stuff safely burned onto a CD,can someone please help me out of this repetitive problem?Also,can someone help with a proper and complete installation of Mandriva on my system(personal presence would be preferred ;-)). Regards, Easwar PS:Sorry for the long mail

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New to mailing list....help required.
by Ahmed Vasgare 29 May '07

29 May '07

Hi all, I am new to the mailing list. I will try to keep myself updated through this. Regards & Prosperity. Ahmed Vasgare.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] A Full Aubuntu.
by Vihan Pandey 29 May '07

29 May '07

> > To paraphrase what GNU has said : We must not judge all of a person by just > > part of what they do. > > I thought he was the founder (and main funder) of Ubuntu and Canonical. He is and he has also repeatedly praised the Free Software philosophy and DOES support efforts regarding the same. http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki > > Mark Shuttleworth has AFAIK - NEVER done anything to harm/hurt Free > > Software. The only thing one can do is continue requesting Canonical to > > release launchpad as Free Software and if they are not doing it for some > > reason to kindly state that. > > > > I, for one, don't use Ubuntu anymore, don't recommend it any more > until they fix these issues that's your freedom to choose. > http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/User:Pravs/What_Ubuntu_should_do_to_regain_my_con… here how i reply to that : - It does not give credit to the GNU project. Try searching for GNU on their website you DO get references to Ubuntu GNU/Linux, Kubuntu GNU/Linux - It does not give importance to Freedom. what exactly are you referring to here? Yes their primary goal is giving GNU/Linux to the masses and yes they do make freedom secondary. Only making freedom secondary does NOT imply that they ignore it all together. You cannot compare them to a M$. - "Ubuntu is and always will be free of charge." there is no guarantee that it will remain Free Software After the M$ Novell deal and a not fully ready GPL v3 yet, how many projects can guarantee that they will remain Free Software? - On the contrary, they have clearly stated their willingness to include non-free softwares in their distribution. They do include proprietary drivers so new users can use the system, but other than that what other non free software are they packaging into Ubuntu? - They don't believe in Free Software. Free Software is only for software which other people develop (Launchpad is non-free software), we will have a commercial advantage in keeping launchpad proprietary, we might release it if we can't make much money out of it. If you want to contribute to Ubuntu you will have to use a non-free software which stores your data in a proprietary format. Is this your opinion or did a Canonical/Ubuntu representative say this? If yes please do give that link as well. - Ubuntu translations does not respect upstream, they are forks. The Rosetta translations don't go upstream (It is good in one way since the quality of the translations are very poor)Again, do you have a web link that states this? > So for me gNewSense, Debian, Fedora ... are much more important than > Ubuntu (but again it is better than Windows, Suse ...). As a Debian user myself, i would rather give Debian to someone wanting to to startup with GNU/Linux, however i don't want them to break their heads on building drivers in their 1st attempt at install. Nor do i want to restrict them by saying it will work only if you have this hardware it works else it won't - in fact that gives them the impression that it is me that is conditioning their freedom :-) > Freedom aspect > is not the top priority for Ubuntu (Ubuntu website highlights Free of > Cost availability). agreed. > > By the way - has anyone done this so far? > > > > I didn't get it. Did you mean anyone released their distro infrastructure? no, i meant - has anyone asked Canonical why is Launchpad not Free Software ? > Debian uses only Free Software for its infrastructure and it promises > to give back to the community any new tools created. agreed. > "When we write new components of the Debian system, we will license > them in a manner consistent with the Debian Free Software Guidelines." > http://www.us.debian.org/social_contract agreed and respected. > see the wiki link. It is not just launchpad, the entire data stored in > the infrastructure is in proprietary format (Remember the case of > bitkeeper). Well, at the end of the day it got dumped for git and if all you say is true for launchpad it won't last very long either. > And Ubuntu does not give credit to the GNU project. Try searching for GNU on their website you DO get references to Ubuntu GNU/Linux, Kubuntu GNU/Linux. > "Calling this variant of the GNU system "Linux" plays into the hands > of people who choose their software based only on technical advantage, > not caring whether it respects their freedom. There are people like > Barr, that want their software "free from ideology" and criticize > anyone that says freedom matters. There are people like Torvalds that > will pressure our community into use of a non-free program, and > challenge anyone who complains to provide a (technically) better > program immediately or shut up. There are people who say that > technical decisions should not be "politicized" by consideration of > their social consequences." > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/linux-gnu-freedom.html agreed. > So for me Ubuntu is down the list of Free Software distributions and I > would support all distributions that gives Freedom more importance > than ease of use/technical merit. i would rather give Debian to someone over any other distro ANY day, only one can't do that all the time. If everyone i met was a techie and willing to go the extra mile - yes it works, only life isn't always like that. The normal non techie user DOES count. Sometimes it not so bad if you hold a child's hand while it is learning to walk :-) > You will have to use a non-free program to participate in ubuntu > development and your contributions will be stored in a proprietary > format, you could retrieve it only through that program (remember > bitkeeper). i do and i also remember how it was chucked out and replaced by git. > Again I have no personal hatred against Mark Shuttleworth. i never said so :-) > He has done > a wonderful job in getting GNU/Linux to masses and he is a great > speaker and amazingly good at convincing people. agreed. > But that doesn't mean > I have to agree to everything he does. absolute agreement :-) Regards, - vihan

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[COMMERCIAL] System z Solutions Architect opening at Red Hat
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 29 May '07

29 May '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 A System z Solutions Architect is instrumental in assisting the sales team's selling efforts with specific focus on the IBM System z platform. The SA works closely with the Field Sales Reps to understand and execute sales strategies in the field to both IBM & Red Hat customers. This position requires the ability to interact with both Red Hat & IBM's field sales and technical teams, and with end customers. In this role, the SA must add significant value to the regional sales teams by delivering comprehensive Red Hat value solutions to meet the needs and unique requirements of end customers who are considering or who have invested in the System z platform. Further, the System z SA must be able to provide technical input into the creation of Educational & Training materials, as well as assisting in the development of Marketing material. Key Responsibilities Provides pre-sales technical support activities in the field – RFP responses, end customer calls, etc. Makes presentations, demonstrations, and evaluations, as needed, on all aspects of products as they relate to zSeries. Understands a wide base of hardware platforms and software technologies, but has specific focus on the System z platform. Assists sales teams in assessing potential application of Red Hat's products and partner's products to meet customer needs. Provides follow-up support in disseminating technical information on specific applications to IBM's field technical teams. Key Requirements Comfortable with solution selling process in enterprise software market. Must possess excellent interpersonal and organizational skills. Must have excellent written, oral communication, and be proficient in presentation and client facing skills. Must have the ability to work in the field in remote offices, and be self-managing with excellent time management skills. Must be self-disciplined and have the ability to work independently and as part of a team. Has proficient, well-rounded experience in technical consultative selling up to C level executives. Knowledgeable with open source technologies. 5 + years experience as a Sales Engineer. 5 + years experience with the System z (formerly S/390) platform 3 + years experience in Linux/UNIX system administration/integration/development Interested candidates may send their CVs in Open Document Format to mkamble at redhat dot com with [System z Solutions Architect] in subject line - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGW88nXQZpNTcrCzMRAgZZAKCS2w549WNzQpr/y/r7fG49QoJ6twCfciLs E0fYlPijpVtsMIAwzDjmYt4= =toPy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re:Third time loss of luser account
by Easwar Hariharan 29 May '07

29 May '07

Hi, I am using Mandriva 07 installed from a LFY DVD.It's the free version. I have not used any other distro as yet coz I am still a newbie. Regards, Easwar

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[OT] Measure of OT
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 29 May '07

29 May '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Has someone on this list calculated how many mails/first-individual-replies to OP it takes for a thread to become either OT or drag in elements of recently concluded threads ? Around a couple of years back on iLUG-Cal the count was that within 5 individual replies the thread takes a turn... :) - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGW3kEXQZpNTcrCzMRAuEeAKCo5dmOZ6GJprnaNY2HjVqCrLgifwCeMhi3 66hpQd8/9zDVinR1GjE4VGs= =UDyu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[OT] Oops for my previous mail
by abhishek 28 May '07

28 May '07

Sorry all of the Linuxers for my previous mail. -- With Regards Abhishek Amberkar ---------------------- There is no Operating System but `GNU' and `Linux' is one of its kernels.

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Re: Hi Jayshree
by abhishek 28 May '07

28 May '07

On Saturday 26 May 2007 17:35, jayshree dete wrote: > Hi ABHI, > I'am fine. how are you? > how is your study going on? > I'am doing a job in computer institute. > Actually I didn't know your e-mail id & I forgot to get it from Sachin. > keep in touch. Take care. > > Your Friend, > JAYSHREE Hey... nice to see your reply... I am very much fine... and studies are going great too... afterall it's all about computers naa... :-) So you are a teacher now... great... wonderful job. Keep teaching good. Bye! and keep mailing too... -- With Regards Abhishek Amberkar ---------------------- There is no Operating System but `GNU' and `Linux' is one of its kernels.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [ANN] NRC-FOSS node in mumbai
by Vivek R 28 May '07

28 May '07

Hi! Could you please tell me when is this ? Id like to offer any help or volunteer for this. Thanks. Warm Regards, Vivek. ____________________________________________________________________________________Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7

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Mailman and email address
by Dinesh Joshi 28 May '07

28 May '07

Hi list, I'm not aware if this question has been asked on this list or not. But why the damn mailman gives out email addresses in quotes? I'm talking about this: On ..... Dinesh Joshi dj(a)xyz.com wrote: > sadasdas > .... I know technology can't solve all user incompetence but can't mailman just obfuscate mail addresses in quotes? I've been harping over this for a long time. Each time I tell people to configure their MUA not to quote my / anybody's email address but it'll be much easier if mailman can screen the messages for email addresses in quotes and remove / edit them out? -- Regards, Dinesh A. Joshi

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[COMMERCIAL] Language Maintainer - Marathi position at Red Hat (Pune)
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 28 May '07

28 May '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Division: Red Hat Location: Pune, India IN Travel Involved: 0-10% Job Type: Full Time Job Level: 2+ years experience Education: Bachelors Degree or Equivalent Category: Engineering Position Summary: Translates, develops, and edits content for software localization, paper, multimedia or web-based publications. Essential Duties and Responsibilities: * Translate message catalogs into native language for both Red Hat and selected Open Source software. * Translate manuals and other print media and web content that form part of Red Hat's products and services. * Participate in software quality assurance activities focused on internationalization and localization for respective native language. * Manage tickets for translation activities; including responding to requester, tracking progress, and finalizing deliverables. * Participate in-house training activities with the goal to achieve RHCT Certification. * Participate in weekly team meetings and coordinate activities with Manager. * Other duties may be assigned. Minimum Qualifications: To perform this job successfully, an individual must be able to perform each essential duty satisfactorily. The requirements listed below are representative of the knowledge, skill, and/or ability required. * Education/Experience: Bachelors Degree majoring in Information Technology or Computer Science or Arts/Languages or equivalent combination of education and experience. * Language Ability: Ability to read and interpret technical documents. Ability to translate both technical and non-technical information into native language. Ability to write routine reports and correspondence. Minimum translation speed required for this role is 250 words per hour. * Computer Skills: Familiar with word processing, email, and other Internet applications. Please send CVs in Open Document Format with [Language Maintainer - Marathi] in the subject line to smohan(a)redhat.com - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGWqvtXQZpNTcrCzMRAl0VAJ97huiCDF+8irBBlpVchvQFhqXjbgCgvKrT qJnqbJWgVm8NizcHP8eNHMs= =NzD7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Kubuntu 6.10 Problem with shared printing
by Rony 28 May '07

28 May '07

Hello All, I am using Kubuntu 6.10 as my local printing machine and its cupsd.conf is as below. However, my laptop Kubuntu 6.06 connected through wired lan is not able to 'see' this printer. I uninstalled the firestarter firewall but still no result. Lpstat -a on server shows this....."HP610C accepting requests since Sat 21 Apr 2007 12:03:19 PM IST" Where could the problem be? What commands could I try in the client machines to 'see' the printer? In the client's browser, 'server_ip_address:631' shows the printer. Any packages I could be missing? In Sarge I followed online instructions from some site and was able to print from the laptop. But no other distro after that could duplicate the same. I manually added the shared printer in the client machine but it does not pass on print jobs to the server. This is my cupsd.conf Any help will be appreciated. "# Show general information in error_log. ServerName 192.168.1.n1 LogLevel info SystemGroup lpadmin # Allow remote access Port 631 Listen localhost Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock # Enable printer sharing and shared printers. Browsing On BrowseOrder allow,deny BrowseAllow @LOCAL BrowseAddress 192.168.1.n2 DefaultAuthType Basic <Location /> # Allow shared printing... Order deny,allow Deny From All Allow From 127.0.0.1 Allow From 192.168.1.n2 </Location> <Location /admin> # Restrict access to the admin pages... Order allow,deny Allow localhost </Location> <Location /admin/conf> AuthType Basic Require user @SYSTEM # Restrict access to the configuration files... Order deny,allow Deny From all Allow From 127.0.0.1 </Location> <Policy default> <Limit Send-Document Send-URI Hold-Job Release-Job Restart-Job Purge-Jobs Set-Job-Attributes Create-Job-Subscription Renew-Subscription Cancel-Subscription Get-Notifications Reprocess-Job Cancel-Current-Job Suspend-Current-Job Resume-Job CUPS-Move-Job> Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM Order deny,allow </Limit> <Limit Pause-Printer Resume-Printer Set-Printer-Attributes Enable-Printer Disable-Printer Pause-Printer-After-Current-Job Hold-New-Jobs Release-Held-New-Jobs Deactivate-Printer Activate-Printer Restart-Printer Shutdown-Printer Startup-Printer Promote-Job Schedule-Job-After CUPS-Add-Printer CUPS-Delete-Printer CUPS-Add-Class CUPS-Delete-Class CUPS-Accept-Jobs CUPS-Reject-Jobs CUPS-Set-Default> AuthType Basic Require user @SYSTEM Order deny,allow </Limit> <Limit CUPS-Authenticate-Job> Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM Order deny,allow </Limit> <Limit All> Order deny,allow </Limit> </Policy>" -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] KDM Login Problem
by Aniket Bharaswadkar 28 May '07

28 May '07

> Did you try checking out the logs under /var/log/kdm or the likes? It > should give you a clue as to why its not allowing regular existing users > to login. It'll mostly be something to do with permissions, though I am > not sure. > > Also, check out your config files for KDM under /home/aniket or whatever > your home directory is called. > > One idea is to check out the config files generated for the new user and > compare them against the ones in your existing account. That should > reliably help you to determine what config parameters are causing this > odd behavior :) ( use diff to compare the files :P ) > > One question, how did you upgrade these packages? Yum? Pup? what? > > -- > Regards, > Dinesh A. Joshi > > > I updated using synaptic. Actually I got the problem sorted later. It seems my kid brother had played around with group and membership settings I saw following in log kdm: :0[3833]: saving groups failed: Invalid argument kdm: :0[3833]: Client start failed kdm: :0[3833]: restoring groups failed: Invalid argument Then I just casually checked in users and groups configuration and found the problem. Thanks a lot for the help ..coz in the process I cleaned up my home dir which i was putting off for some reason or other! -- The Future is Open...The Future is LINUX

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Re: Mailman and email address
by Kartik Mistry 28 May '07

28 May '07

On 5/28/07, someone wrote something about privacy: > Hi, My email id is: kartik.mistry(a)gmail.com Now, Spam me ;) If you are FOSS contributor, your email id will float around the universe. Debian BTS is actually based on emails. Like you will have QA page like: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=youremail@foo.com Also mentioning straight at all PTS pages for package. So, it is your responsibility to use filters and may be different email id for mailing lists etc. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mailman and email address
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 28 May '07

28 May '07

> I know technology can't solve all user incompetence but can't mailman > just obfuscate mail addresses in quotes? I've been harping over this for > a long time. Each time I tell people to configure their MUA not to quote > my / anybody's email address but it'll be much easier if mailman can > screen the messages for email addresses in quotes and remove / edit them > out? Are you trying to trying to reduce the amount of spam you get? What if I create a score of webpages each mentioning your email address a multiple number of times, with the proper mailto: tag, etc.. What will you do then? Would it not lead to spam too? Regards, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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[Commercial] Looking for help with php / mysq / moodle
by David Willington 27 May '07

27 May '07

Dear All I'm a free-lance web developer based in the UK - I hope it's OK to post here. I've got more work than I can cope with at the moment and am looking to outsource some of it. Specifically 'm looking for help with integrating moodle (www.moodle.org) with SIMS, a proprietary data management system widely used by schools in the UK. I'm also looking for help with maintaining nd developing a bespoke website and content management system for a school in the UK.> The essential skills needed are php / mysql / html / css> Desirable skills are perl, wml, javascript, linux system administration and knowledge of moodle Any work done would be open source. I've not delved into the finer points of the different open source licenses but I should imagine it'd be GPL If you know of anyone who could help, I'd be delighted to hear from you Thanks David Willington Sheffield, UK _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com: where your online world comes together - with news, sports, weather, and much more. http://www.live.com/getstarted

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] KDM Login Problem
by Aniket Bharaswadkar 27 May '07

27 May '07

> On Sun, 2007-05-27 , Dineshwrote: > > > Umm...what exactly was the solution to the problem? If you could list it > out, possibly the next individual searching the list archives could > benefit from it... > > My brother and I have separate accounts. To access files in my home dir, he made my user and his user member of all groups.(dunno how that helped him!! but i dont blame him , he is a kid in 10th std). Then later on , when I removed some softwares, may be a group associated with it was deleted but both users were its members or so . So I just made the group memberships to minimum needed ie. own group and wheel group , and KDM login happened . I may be wrong in assesing the problem as I dont know which group's membership exactly caused the problem. I am wondering why was GDM working then if KDM had problem !! Is it a bug in KDM that its checking for harmless and inconsequential errors and giving up on it , coz if GDM can start my KDE why not KDM !! -- The Future is Open...The Future is LINUX

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] A Full Aubuntu.
by Kartik Mistry 27 May '07

27 May '07

On 5/26/07, Mrugesh wrote: > Heh. So why the whole agenda against non-free? Why doesn't the GPL allow > non-free useage? Because its GPL. Please ask FSF for more details. I know you hate GPL for some unknown reason(s). > I find this whole agenda hypocritic. Either adhere to it fully before you go > on preaching about it or stop preaching it. Why isn't Ubuntu or Gentoo or > <insert any other distro here> on GNU's list if it doesn't ship with non-free > software by default? And if Novell is evil for making a business deal, why > isn't Ubuntu evil for providing such a user-friendly access to non-free > software? Huh? I follow DFSG (Debian Free Software Guideline). I think you need to learn more about what is Freedom before jumping into this quicksand. Novell is Evil in different case. > Oh wait. I know what'll happen. Now there will be some a couple of completely > irrelevant replies, a couple of trolls and a couple of flames. I see your > point - Those who can shout the loudest or use the heaviest language must be > correct, right? Trolls and Flames are required. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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Interesting Read
by Roshan 27 May '07

27 May '07

Here: http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/entdev/article.php/11070_3679516_1 -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Perl script Interpreter problem
by deshpande＠vsnl.com 26 May '07

26 May '07

Hello I am using RHEL 4 (full Install) and created a simple perl script with 'perl filename' the command is working correctly but when I run the script ./script I get bad interpreter error [[root@rhel4es Test]# pwd /var/www/html/Test [root@rhel4es Test]# perl tryPerl2.pl this content is from perl file ! [root@rhel4es Test]# [root@rhel4es Test]# which perl /usr/bin/perl [root@rhel4es Test]# [root@rhel4es Test]# cat tryPerl2.pl #!/usr/bin/perl print "this content is from perl file !\n"; [root@rhel4es Test]# [root@rhel4es Test]# ./tryPerl2.pl : bad interpreter: No such file or directory [root@rhel4es Test]# So I cant browse this file from my internet browser So whats the problem Thanks in advance With warm regards MAHESH DESHPANDE

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] A Full Aubuntu.
by Kartik Mistry 26 May '07

26 May '07

Rony(?) wrote: >I have used both. Debian is not user friendly as Ubuntu. Debian is raw >power. Ubuntu is tamed. Please report a bug in Debian BTS with proper examples. You can even report a bug against Debian Website! I am sure that it will be done. -- > Knock Knock > Who's There? > Linux > Who Linux? > GNU/Linux Do you know only distribution called itself GNU/Linux is: Debian? You should use it now no matter how hard, damn, user-unfriendly, useless it is. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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raspppoe - alternative? Intel 810 - Ubuntu?
by Roshan 26 May '07

26 May '07

List, I tried Ubuntu 6.06 on one of my friend's computer. His comptuer's specs are Intel Pentium III 866 MHz Intel 810 - Motherboard 256 MB of RAM 120 GB Hdd (80 + 20) HP monitor Peripherals (essentail kbd, mouse, samsung CD-RW drive) Though the Live CD worked well without problems, I actually couldn't connect to internet. This is because, his ISP is Exatt Net and the provider uses raspppoe (for authentication, I guess. I don't know what sort of internet connection this is). Assuming that this connection was pppoe, I tried running pppoe on the Live CD, and found that it isn't available in the Live CD. (Is this what I was supposed to do? ) Tried Knoppix for the same, but Knoppix couldn't figure out the monitor and the screen was showing a series of varied color horizontal lines, after bootup. Is there any other Live CD, that would have pppoe on its Live CD to try and connect to his internet. Perhaps, if someone could post a how-to on the wiki with details about the "cablewala ka internet" or an ISP such as one mentioned above, it would be helpful for many. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Download prohibited? No problem! To chat from any browser without download, Click Here: http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

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Mobile Monday event
by VeerChand Bothra 25 May '07

25 May '07

Inviting the mobile developer community for the June event of Mobile Monday Mumbai hosted by Reliance Communicatons. http://mumbai.mobilemonday.in/2007/05/25/june-event-developer-community/ So far the events of Mobile Monday Mumbai had business-centric themes. Thanks to the support of Reliance Communications we will be hosting a mobile developer centric event for the first time. Added attraction this time will be a 15 min guided tour of the famed (NASA like) Reliance National Network Operating Centre. Also, have heard great things about the venue and food :) http://mumbai.mobilemonday.in/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/gm_bg2.jpg Reliance has been kind to arrange a vehicle for transport to and fro from Sena Bhawan, Dadar to the conference venue. Seats will be booked on a first-come-first-serve basis. You can state your preference while registering. Topic: Emerging Trends in Mobile Application Development Agenda: * Visit to NNOC (Optional) * Anil Pande, Head - Product Developement Management, Application Solutions and Content Group, Reliance Communications * Speaker 2 (Yet to be confirmed) * Panel Discussion * Group discussion * Poolside Dinner When: Monday, 4th June, 2007 5.30 pm - 7.30pm Those interested in visiting the NNOC will need to arrive by 4:30pm. Where: Hermitage Lakeside Guest House Gate No. 02, Dhirubhai Ambani Knowledge City, Opp. KoperKhairne Railway Station, Navi Mumbai - 400710. To register click here: http://mumbai.mobilemonday.in/register/

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Free Advice for the Litigious... Sun CEO on Microsoft's patent threat to Free Software
by Praveen A 25 May '07

25 May '07

Free Advice for the Litigious... "All of which is to say - no amount of fear can stop the rise of free media, or free software (they are the same, after all). The community is vastly more innovative and powerful than a single company. And you will never turn back the clock on elementary school students and developing economies and aid agencies and fledgling universities - or the Fortune 500 - that have found value in the wisdom of the open source community. Open standards and open source software are literally changing the face of the planet - creating opportunity wherever the network can reach." Jonathan Schwartz, CEO, Sun Microsystems http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/what_we_did Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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[ANN] NRC-FOSS node in mumbai
by Kenneth Gonsalves 25 May '07

25 May '07

hi, we have finalised arrangements to host the NRC-FOSS node in mumbai at VJTI. VJTI is giving us a lab with 30 machines and space for holding meetings, seminars, classes etc as well as an office. The node will be coordinated by Professor Jitendra Shah from the VJTI end and Mrugesh Karnik from the community end. Mrugesh is currently working along with Pradeepto, Vihan and Anurag on this. We are sure that many more community people will come forward to support this. The facilities will be available for any foss activity including lug, fsug meetings, seminars, course etc etc. The node will also help coordinate spreading of FOSS in colleges and schools in the state as well as help NRC-FOSS in it's task of getting FOSS into the curriculum of engineering colleges in the state. An important part of the activity will be to encourage and foster the development of FOSS code in the area. You may contact the node at nrcfoss.mumbai@au- kbc.org. Physical location and contact details will be given as and when they are set up. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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Import utility ImageMagick
by Roshan 25 May '07

25 May '07

List, Does the command import -depth 8 -density 72x72 filename.png take a screenshot with 8bpp and 72dpi as resolution? Though the tool identify -verbose filename.png would list the details, I just want to confirm, if I'm doing the right thing. TIA. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Import utility ImageMagick
by Roshan 25 May '07

25 May '07

List, Does the command import -depth 8 -density 72x72 filename.png take a screenshot with 8bpp and 72dpi as resolution? Though the tool identify -verbose filename.png would list the details, I just want to confirm, if I'm doing the right thing. TIA. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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KDM Login Problem
by Aniket Bharaswadkar 25 May '07

25 May '07

I am using FC5. I have upgraded to latest version of kdebase and kdebase-kdm, from kde-redhat rpms. The problem when I enter my username and password in KDM , it just drops me back to the same KDM screen , instead of my KDE desktop. Root can login , and also a new test user I created was able to login. With GDM , I can login to both KDE and Gnome. WIth KDM i cant login to anything. I have following version of kdebase and other rpms.. kdebase-3.5.6-3.fc5 kdebase-kdm-3.5.6-3.fc5 kde-settings-3.5-18.fc5 kde-settings-kdm-3.5-18.fc5 Please help....calling all linux experts.. -- The Future is Open...The Future is LINUX

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] A Full Aubuntu.
by Kartik Mistry 25 May '07

25 May '07

Rony (?) wrote: > > Ubuntu has more automated processes whereas in Debian you got to do some > things manually. I have used Sarge and Etch testing. In Debian if you > put in a usb pen drive, it loads it but has to be accessed in a browser > by entering its path. In Ubuntu it shows a nice icon on the desktop that > you can double click. There are more examples but I can't recollect them > all. Debian is excellent for console. Ubuntu for GUI. I don't want to > comment on Etch testing's gui. :P Automated? This pen-drive example looks crap. I have been using Pen-Drive on Debian since c. 2004 (Sarge Snapshot). Some more better examples? Etch is not Testing, it is stable now (Since April 8). Live on current time!! > Though one thing I must add that except for Sarge where it worked, I > have been struggling and unable to share my printer over the network > till today. I have to get files into my pen drive and paste them on the > main printer machine. Asked anywhere? Forums, IRCs? This list? -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 49, Issue 39
by Kartik Mistry 25 May '07

25 May '07

Dhawal Doshy wrote: > >I slightly differ on this.. why doesn't debian (being the upstream >provider for ubuntu) take feedback from the ubuntu community as well? >Redhat does this for fedora/centos/scientific.. they even invited centos >developers to collaborate on EPEL (though things are still being worked >out). Debian do in my cases. See any package in PTS. There is section called: 'Patches from Ubuntu' and yes, all patches in Ubuntu are available under: http://patches.ubuntu.com In many cases, Ubuntu is also upstream for Debian packages (because some developers are working at Cannonical). Ofcourse, Ubuntu has more artwork, shiny things than Debian. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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GCC 4.0 (C Compiler) on Kubuntu 6.06
by Roshan 25 May '07

25 May '07

List, I had to install GCC C compiler in Kubuntu 6.06, and found that it isn't installed with the default setup. I found out that GCC 4.0 base system (whatever that is) is installed. I used Adept to install GCC C compiler, assuming it would setup everything that I need to run C programs. You can run the command (sudo apt-get install gcc-4.0) to install GNU C compiler. Assuming that the installation of the compiler is with all the essential parts to run C programs, I wrote the traditional "HelloWorld" program and compiled it, also passing a parameter to generate a specific output file. The result: "Error: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory" Logged on to the #gcc channel on IRC and I was told to install libc6-dev. (sudo apt-get install libc6-dev) Now, this is just the C libraries. There are few other packages that would have to be installed for additional support of programming languages. What next? Compiled and Executed the HelloWorld Program. Hope this experience helps, newbies like me. :) For C++, I guess one needs libstdc++6-4.0-dev. For those with loads of data transfer capabilites (no caps) can use the following command sudo apt-get install build-essentail. Comments on this post are welcome. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Kernal issue
by zoheb ashraf 25 May '07

25 May '07

I am having a problem and want to know How to Compile a kernal in RedHat AS4. Plz help me out ASAP. Thanks & Regards Zoheb Ansari

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Re: [commercial] Job opening: OpenOffice support Engineers
by Kartik Mistry 24 May '07

24 May '07

On 5/23/07, jtd wrote, > Did you know that Novell signed a crooked deal with M$ to sue Linux > users who had not paid Novell to use linux ?. Oh u did not. How could > you with your head buried in the sand. Ofcourse. I know it very well. My head is always up and ready to face any real storm.. rather created by FUDs from various sources. > Did you know that Jeremy Allison resigned from Novell in protest > against that stupid deal. And more recently Robert Love? > Aha you did not. Your head was deeper in the sand. Yes. He got good job at Google. My head is still up. > Novel is seen as a company without scruples. And such companies are > unable to sustain themselves in the long run. Using FOSS as the > foundation to build your business is paticularly tricky becaus there > is very little to compare with (or follow). But what is certain is > that once you sully your reputation in the community it's curtains > for you. I agree that 'stupid deal' was really wrong and against whole FOSS community, but bashing and ignoring contribution is keeping head deep deep deeper in sand with bunch of water. > All the best to those who think that working for Novell is a wonderful > career opportunity. Nope. I am not thinking that way :) -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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[Commercial]Job Opening at Efficient Frontier, Chennai - PostgreSQL DBA
by Gourav Shah 23 May '07

23 May '07

Efficient Frontier is looking for dynamic individuals who want to be part of building solutions that change the economics of online marketing. As part of Efficient Frontier's world-class team, you will have the opportunity to be a part of a private company and work in a fast-paced, rewarding environment, addressing a red-hot market. Our products and services rely on patent-pending portfolio management algorithms to deliver search engine marketing solutions to some of the world's largest online advertisers. Efficient Frontier, India is located at Chennai. Our India office is growing fast and attracting the best talent in India. Our compensation is top-notch, we work with the latest open source technologies, and all employees get opportunities to travel to our office locations worldwide. PostgreSQL DBA We are one of the largest users of PostgreSQL and deal with terabytes of data. We are looking for a talented PostgreSQL DBA to be part of our Operations team. Responsibilities: -Monitor, script & maintain a large production and pre-production PostgreSQL database infrastructure. -Troubleshoot database issues and ensure integrity of data -Suggest improvements and continually innovate and improve upon our operational environment -Work closely with our devel teams and DB consultants to provide databases, tools and services as per requirements Qualifications: -Strong knowledge of Linux including configuration, shell, file system, cron, etc. a must. -1.5+ years of Postgresql or MySQL or similar db administration and design a must. -1+ years scripting experience shell, perl or Python. -Experience in database performance tuning, clustering, backup & recovery, system architecture and design. -Excellent verbal and written communication skills. Strong work ethic including teamwork, initiative, flexibility, and reliability. -Bachelor's degree in computer related field preferred. Visit us at: http://www.efrontier.com Interested candidates please send your resumes at: jobs-india(a)efrontier.com with subject title "OPS:PostgreSQL DBA" --------------------------------- Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution!

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Ubuntu update-manager makes system unresponsive for large updates
by Chetan S 23 May '07

23 May '07

Hi all, I am running on ubuntu gutsy without any problems for a while. One of the things i encountered, was the heavy load the update process can put onto your system making it almost freeze. Well for now I do this via cli - sudo nice -n 19 apt-get update sudo nice -n 19 apt-get dist-upgrade This leaves my system upgraded and usable in the time when its upgrading. Any thoughts on how I can make the update-manager from ubuntu play nice ? C

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Re: [commercial] Job opening: OpenOffice support Engineers
by Kartik Mistry 23 May '07

23 May '07

On 5/22/07, Dinesh Joshi wrote: > > Novell is looking for people to do Open Office support. > > No offense intended but I dont think Novell still has the reputation it > once had in the Linux community...? ? ? > > Anyone would wanna take up such an assignment? Troll is definitely require here. Do you know what is contribution of Novell in pushing OO.o to masses? Do you know that almost all top OO.o developers are working with Novell to contribute and making OO.o better? Do you Know about Micheal Meeks/Pavel Janik/.. ? If yes, you couldn't have sent this mail. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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Microsoft Cracking down on Indian Retailers
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 23 May '07

23 May '07

Looks like the pirates are finally being rounded up ;) http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/20/2046246&from=rss ... or maybe I'm reading too much into it? -- Siddhesh Poyarekar This document validates as Plain Text

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Re: [Semi-Commercial] Linux DVD GiveAway..
by Kartik Mistry 23 May '07

23 May '07

On 5/23/07, Kartik wrote: > Dear all, > > Hope that this could help someone who wants Linux DVDs. > > Please check: > http://www.buylinuxdvd.com/orderatonlinelinuxshop/ Forgot to mention that, It is Free (Beer! with no catch) and FCFS. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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[Semi-Commercial] Linux DVD GiveAway..
by Kartik Mistry 23 May '07

23 May '07

Dear all, Hope that this could help someone who wants Linux DVDs. Please check: http://www.buylinuxdvd.com/orderatonlinelinuxshop/ Please don't mail me off-line/on-line about this. Mail directly to BLD.com -- -------------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | Eng: kartikmistry.org/blog 0xD1028C8D | Guj: kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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Soundmax Audio with Very high tone
by (रेवंत) Revan t Nandgaonkar 22 May '07

22 May '07

I installed ubuntu 7.04 on my desktop AMD 64 Athlon X2 with Asus M2N-MX (Nforce430) the integrated audio - soundmax isn't working properly whenever i start any audio ogg, right speaker outputs an irritating high tone any solutions?

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [commercial] Job opening: OpenOffice support Engineers
by Vickram Crishna 22 May '07

22 May '07

--- Kartik Mistry wrote: > > On 5/22/07, Dinesh Joshi wrote: > > > Novell is looking for people to do Open Office > support. > > > > No offense intended but I dont think Novell still > has the reputation it > > once had in the Linux community...? ? ? > > > > Anyone would wanna take up such an assignment? > > Troll is definitely require here. > > Do you know what is contribution of Novell in > pushing OO.o to masses? > Do you know that almost all top OO.o developers are > working with > Novell to contribute and making OO.o better? > > Do you Know about Micheal Meeks/Pavel Janik/.. ? If > yes, you couldn't > have sent this mail. > He's not alone. See story below from Search Enterprise Linux. The point is that while Novell might be doing a good job with OO.o, it may well be losing out on loyalty in its core network system goodwill treasure chest. Having said which, the original post is about hiring OO.o developers. FROM THE EDITOR :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Leaving Novell, despite years of loyalty At Red Hat Summit last week, I talked to a Novell NetWare die-hard whose relationship with and love for Novell died, well, hard. Like many users, Jim Klein realized in 2003 that NetWare was a "dead-end street" and was looking for alternatives. Klein, IT services/technology director at Santa Clarita, Calif.-based Saugus Union School District (SUSD), ruled out Microsoft Windows because management costs were higher, security problems were rampant then and he didn't want to get locked into Microsoft's upgrade routine. When Novell acquired SUSE Linux, he saw the opportunity to stay with Novell and get an operating system with a lot of life in it. Unfortunately, SUSE glitches caused trouble, and Novell didn't offer much help to fix problems. Also, Klein found that Novell didn't have the community-oriented spirit associated with Linux. "To me, it looks like Novell just uses Linux as an entry to selling proprietary products to put on top of it," Klein said. Quite the opposite was true of Red Hat and its Linux distro, and SUSD runs most of its applications on Red Hat Enterprise Linux today. For more about Klein's Novell and Linux journey, check out this Enterprise Linux Log entry. Did your Novell NetWare and SUSE experiences end in divorce, or is it still a love affair? Share your story with me at jstafford(a)techtarget.com, and I'll return the favor with a $5 Starbucks card (North America only). RELATED INFORMATION: > Red Hat Summit: http://go.techtarget.com/r/1460531/1539386 > Klein's Novell and Linux journey: http://go.techtarget.com/r/1460532/1539386 Vickram ___________________________________________________________ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk

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[commercial] Job opening: OpenOffice support Engineers
by Rahulkrishna Gupta 21 May '07

21 May '07

Hi, Novell is looking for people to do Open Office support. Job Profile: * Good experience in OpenOffice is a must especially experience in moving from MS Office to OpenOffice. * 1-2+ years of hands on experience desired. * Experience in conversion of MS Office macros to OpenOffice macros is a plus. * Person should be willing to do support and experience in a support/customer facing role is a plus. The arrangement would be on a monthly contact basis. We may hire the person in future if the person if found suitable. If you know of anyone who might be interested in above, please have them send their CV to me at ragupta(a)novell.com Thanks Regards, RahulKrishna Gupta

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Office 2007, OpenOffice, ODF (news)
by Roshan 21 May '07

21 May '07

List, Read this! http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-6183476.html -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? Click here: http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

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Plain text emails using Web based Yahoo! Mail
by Roshan 21 May '07

21 May '07

List, I have added a small How-To on the wiki about composing / viewing plain text emails using Web Based Yahoo! Mail. http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Plaintext_Emails This may not be useful for many (active) on the list, because, I assume most use a email client! However, I believe, there are newbies entering the world of GNU/Linux everyday, and finding out these mailing lists and sending off emails to the list. Unknowingly, the send HTML emails, which are blocked for obvious reasons. Therefore, this How-To is aimed at newbies to send plain text emails to the list. I would also like to suggest, that for new registrations of subscriptions to the list, the *welcome* email (the one that is sent after confirmation of registration) /should/ include a link to this How-To to help individuals know how to send plain text emails. :) -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT?]: Linux O. S. with LAN - MTNL Triband
by Vickram Crishna 19 May '07

19 May '07

--- Anurag wrote: > Sometime on Wednesday 16 May 2007 23:55, Raj Mathur > said: > > > All that they have to do now, is introduce > Unlimited > > > plans at more reasonable rates (read 'lower') > for > > > users. (hehe, this must be on so many wishlists > ;) ) > > > > Isn't the unlimited 256 Kb/s some Rs 900 per > month? Sounds pretty > > reasonable to me. > > IIRC, that's only for their Delhi customers. Not > Mumbai ;-) I think tht is very reasonable. There are no MPs or Union ministers in Mumbai who would notice or care about MTNL services, whereas in Delhi they are practically dropping off the treetops. Of course they may not care about MTNL either, but the pain if hey do notice is much higher, hence the differential service levels. On the train two days back, I met an MTNL staffer who was very loyal and vociferous about MTNL standards. He told me that I should apply for a very cheap Garuda CDMA, Rs 1,000 for two year rent free service and Rs 1,000 free talktime, excellent connectivity (he said). Does anyone know whether it has built-in data connectivity to compete with DSL? Vickram ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

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Shell scripting book like Kanetkar's
by knowledge less 19 May '07

19 May '07

Is there a similar book on shell programming like Y Kanetkar's Unix Shell Programming, but one that is current. Kanetkar's book is quite old and no new editions. I need a book which has lots of exercises like Kanetkar's and is easy too like the one. Regards, Deboo

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Linux/Unix books donation
by knowledge less 19 May '07

19 May '07

I have quite a few nice Unix/Linux and Security books (mostly Oreilly) which I do not use but they are in good condition and not that old that anyone can't use it. Is there a place I can donate them where people can really make use of them? They are 10 - 12 big books. Regards, Deboo

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[OT?]: Linux O. S. with LAN - MTNL Triband
by Roshan 17 May '07

17 May '07

Hello List, Logged on to Triband's home page today, and the marquee scrolling on their page (just below the flash animation) says, "For best Triband Usage ... Linux O. S. with LAN port..." (Did someone notice this before me?) So, their department (dealing with Triband) realizes that there are individuals who use Triband with a Linux distro! All that they have to do now, is introduce Unlimited plans at more reasonable rates (read 'lower') for users. (hehe, this must be on so many wishlists ;) ) But I wonder, what sort of a support will they provide for GNU/Linux users? Distro-specific or will they ask users to do "command-line" tasks for configuring, in case the user decides to switch to manual configuration. (or whatsoever) -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? Click here: http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

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Re: doc
by abhishek 15 May '07

15 May '07

On Tuesday 15 May 2007 10:05, Dr. Anar D. Rupji wrote: > l send the documentation and Development life cycle Hello Sir, We want to include context diagram and data flow diagram in documentation. so documentation will be sent to you tomorrow ie on 16th May. -- With Regards Abhishek Amberkar ---------------------- There is no Operating System but `GNU' and `Linux' is one of its kernels.

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Shell Script for resizing an array of images
by Roshan 15 May '07

15 May '07

Hello List, I had a task of resizing more than 30 images one by one (of sizes as large as 3000 x 2000 pixels or a little lesser than that) to a size 640 x 480 pixels. I'm sure, a lot of you click high quality photos (images of size > than 1 MB) and want to resize them to send it through email, say as a zip file (if the receiver wants a copy of the photos). One can upload the photographs to a photo-sharing website, but one wouldn't have to log on everytime to view / show the photos. I used the command line tool called "convert " (by ImageMagick) to convert them. Though I knew, I could play with files in shell scripts I didn't know anything about the syntax. So, I searched and found this document http://tldp.org/linuxfocus/English/July2001/article211.shtml Understood the syntax on the page, and wrote a script to complete the above mentioned task. #!/bin/sh for f in $*; do convert -resize 640x480 $f t-$f done I have one question. Is the $* is for argument number (or its type) for the file that would have to be converted? There's one thing that I noted while this script was executing. The processor usage was around 93-100 % and the memory usage was jumping up and down. Look at the following picture, to know more. http://www.geocities.com/d_rosh2001/system_monitor.png Please feel free to copy, modify and redistribute this code, if it helps. :) -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? Click here: http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

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"Breaking News : Polar Bear Sighted!"
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 14 May '07

14 May '07

Hi List So finally "the eagle has arrived" or shall I say - "the polar bear has arrived". [1] This ofcourse is an alpha version of KDE 4.0. So one step closer to World Domination. Read more in the given link below. So thank you for your patience, still a lot to do and lot to achieve and a long way to go. Three cheers to the all KDE developers who put in their valuable time, effort and love. [1] http://dot.kde.org/1178891375/ Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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screen resolution drops down to 640 * 480 after monitor change
by Kamal Paryani 14 May '07

14 May '07

hi after installation if i change my monitor on ubuntu 7.04 it does not take the resolution higher than 640 * 480 but the monitor is capable of higher resolutions if i switch back to the original monitor on which the installation was done then it allows me to increase the resolution please help , how do i tell ubuntu desktop to ignore the monitor regards kamal

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] what's on the ubuntu dvd, any ideas?
by Shuvam Misra 14 May '07

14 May '07

> You need to download only once. Then create a Packages file by using > dpkg-scanpackage. compress the Packages file to create packages.gz in I think you meant dpkg-scanpackages? Took me a couple of minutes to find out this command. Thanks for the pointer; I didn't know about it. Shuvam

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[OT] Airtel Broadband. Demand ADSL with router.
by Rony 14 May '07

14 May '07

Hello All, A client of mine subscribed to Airtel Broadband. I told the client to insist on an ADSL modem with router. This is like the self contained MTNL modem. Its advantage over the regular Airtel modems is that it does not need a pc to dial pppoe. The router ensures that the pcs are not directly exposed to the net and no pc needs to be dedicated as a server. The Airtel guy who came to install did not understand the idea first and after some beating about the bush, said that he will have to contact his tech. guys. Next day, they installed the wanted unit. So if you are using Airtel, you can insist on the independent modem cum dialer. If your net is down, at least they won't blame your pc or its interfaces. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Mandrake 2007
by Rony Bill 13 May '07

13 May '07

Hello All, Having heard a lot about Mandriva 2007, I decided to try it out on my laptop. It loaded well. Before actual install, some device configurations were necessary to be done like display driver, boot manager (changing lilo to grub), and some minor settings. Installation was smooth. It detected everything except my wireless card but it gave a message with a url to download certain firmware packages and they (*.fw) were downloaded and saved to the /lib/firmware directory. However wireless setup was a Pain..ITA. There was no direct link to up/down the interface and its a long route via 'configure your computer'. The kde wireless manager is lousy compared to the one in Kubuntu. At one time I had to use command line to control the interface. However even though verything was setup in the ifcfg-eth1 file, sometimes the sudo ifup eth1 command would not work properly. The software updater cannot find any repo site. On the web too I found some mirror sites but no description to manually add them to the package manager. I have yet to try out multimedia. In short, Kubuntu is much easier to configure and setup compared to Mandriva. "And the first prize goes to ....Kubuntu". Yeeaay. Regards, Rony ___________________________________________________________ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk

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what's on the ubuntu dvd, any ideas?
by krishnakant Mane 13 May '07

13 May '07

hello all, I am doing an installation of a few computers with orca (the screen reader) for blind people. it is at a very remote village where internet is not very strong. I have to do a apt-get install for gnome-common and also apt-get build-dep gnome-orca. both this commands connect to the internet and need to download the packages. now what I am trying to understand is whether dvd is worth the download? will gnome-common be available on the dvd? I am aware that orca is indeed available so no worrys. I am only worried about the dependencies which apt-get downloads from internet. if dvd has most of what is on the web based repositories, then my requirements will be fulfilled and to make the computers accessible, I wont need internet. regards, Krishnakant.

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kde on ubuntu
by Kamal Paryani 13 May '07

13 May '07

hi i want to install kde on about 25 hosts on which ubuntu 7.04 is already installed i use apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to install kde it is a 198 mb download i dont want to download 198 mb on each host can i download on one location and use it to install kubuntu on all desktops regards kamal

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Konqueror Image rendering bug
by Roshan 12 May '07

12 May '07

Hello Lists, I browse using Konqueror with Images "turned off" so that large size images aren't fetched. (or for that matter any image, irrespective of its size). (sometimes, or at times use Mozilla Firefox) As per rules of W3C, the "alt" tag is compulsory for images, and Konqueror doesn't seem to read that attribute and display it when images are turned off. Therefore, I have filed a bug with kde's bug tracking system with Id 145224 (so that you can search the report of this bug). If you can vote for this bug, may be it'll get some attention and fixes for this will be applied. Konqueror has known to be pretty standards compliant and is the *fastest* browser (wow!, Ah! Wrong word ;) ). -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? Click here: http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mandrake 2007
by Vickram Crishna 12 May '07

12 May '07

--- linuxers-request(a)mm.glug-bom.org wrote: > > From: Roshan <d_rosh2001(a)yahoo.co.in> > > --- mehul wrote: > > Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > >> what is software piracy? > > > Something that MS doesn't care of? > > Or possibly MS doesn't stretch its resources and > money > into going against it to the maximum or with highest > priority. I hear, that's because, they want > popularity, at cost some some losses. :-? What MS wants or focuses its budget towards is not the issue, and going down that road is not worth the discussion. Software is the set of rules that determines the utility of a piece of hardware, or many pieces of hardware when they (by the excellence of their software) work together. When that software is concealed, or the developer chooses to ignore the needs of different hardware users and prevents them from enjoying the same features, benefits etc, everyone loses, not just the users of that hardware. Piracy is an artefact of a select section of society. This was true when the term piracy was applied to sea-going merchants, who were licensed by their governments to kill and plunder everyone else, and is no less true today, when a group of 13 countries some 120 years ago (led by global supernation Haiti, in case you mistakenly thought this was all about superpowers) signed an agreement that is even today still being debated (the ink just won't dry). MS has chosen to work in the world of proprietary software, and this is a business decision of theirs. They are clinging to it, long after bigger or more impactful IT companies like IBM and Intel have seen the value of building businesses that do not pivot on the proprietary software spike. If they choose to move away from this stance, it will not affect the essential value of 'open' or 'free' software (just tags or jargon that have no more intrinsic value than the word 'proprietary'). Vickram ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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kacpid hogging CPU (with intel dual core)
by G Karunakar 12 May '07

12 May '07

Hi, I have this machine with a new mobo + intel dual core installed, running debian etch (kernel 2.6.18-4-686).. /proc/cpuinfo shows two processors.. the system as such seems slow with high enough latency.. and top shows kacpid constantly hogging.. 90-100% of CPU time always.., acpid is running, with thermal, fan, processor etc modules loaded.. what could be the issue? or how to fix it? has anyone faced similar issue with dual cores? (meanwhile i am compiling 2.6.20 with processor type dual core selected!) Karunakar

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Tataindicom datacard [OT]
by jtd 12 May '07

12 May '07

Where can i pickup a tataindicom datacard?. Their true value shops dont have any and will be able to deliver only 45 days later. I need one urgently. -- Rgds JTD

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nrc-foss node and meet on the 17th
by lawgon＠au-kbc.org 12 May '07

12 May '07

hi, as you know, NRC-FOSS (http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/) is planning to start a node at Mumbai. This node will help to coordinate/facilitate foss related activities in Mumbai especially in the following areas: 1. promoting foss in formal and non-formal education 2. popularising foss in schools, colleges, industry and ngos in the maharashtra region 3. fostering the writing and development of foss code in the area. To this end we hope to facilitate at least a couple of meetings/installfests or linux demo days a month in various establishments as well as help coordinate activities. It goes without saying that we cant achieve anything without active participation of the LUG. The node will in all probability be hosted by VJTI and we are having a meeting with the management and the managements of other colleges on the 17th morning at VJTI. We would like to discuss the scope and functioning of the node with members of the community in the afternoon/evening. I know it is a working day, but I hope a good number of members will take some time off to participate. The meeting will take place at the VJTI and exact place and time will be announced depending on the response we get here. Please respond to the list with your ideas, suggestions and whether you will be able to participate. Remember, we need you ... -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS

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(no subject)
by Roshan 11 May '07

11 May '07

Hello Lists, (see header) I am using Kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) on my second hdd and three applications, Konqueror, Konverstaion and Kopete (yes, KDE - Kyonki haha) on my MTNL Triband line, without specifying the DNS. The automatically accepted DNS was the IP address of the ADSL Router / Modem. (D-Link 502 T) I wasn't able to get updates using apt-get because, the command would fetch the first URL and become stagnant with no network activity over the ethernet LED. I finally, decided to add the DNS servers provided by MTNL, and wow! apt-get could finally understand what it is supposed to connect to and fetched updates. Phew! Why didn't the K affect the 'K'onsole. Some other underlying protocol, perhaps? BTW, I managed to install Firefox (1.5.0.11) and have bookmarked two links on installing Firefox 2.0 on *buntu. These updates consumes a lot of my bits, and that brings me to a question! Can I (if I get one) use the Kubuntu 6.06 DVD as a source for installing common applications (such as say GCC 3.x or 4.x, Java 1.4.x JRE 1.5.x etc?) If yes, anyone in Mumbai with a Kubuntu 6.06 DVD? -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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[OT] Any telecom breakdown?
by Rony 11 May '07

11 May '07

Hello All, Has there been any major telecom breakdown in Mumbai? My phones went dead yesterday but internet was on. Now phones are back to life and net is down. The Reliance fwp too has problems getting the yahoo mail website load fully. Pop/Smtp access is good though. -- Regards, Rony.

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News: Ubuntu Linux evolves for mobile devices
by Mohan Nayaka 09 May '07

09 May '07

``A version of the increasingly popular Linux operating system Ubuntu will be developed for use on net-enabled phones and devices.'' http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6634195.stm Regards, Mohan S N -- "Wise fool" Gandalf, "The Two Towers"

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COMMERCIAL Linux Admin Job Vacancy In Mumbai
by s.shankar＠htechsoln.com 09 May '07

09 May '07

Dear All, Here are the detailed requirements for the post of Linux System Administrator In Mumbai: The person needs to be RHEL-4 certified / have strong fundamental understanding of various aspects of the core Linux system & its basic services. Work experience of 2 2.5 yrs is required Must have the flexibility to work in different day shifts ( 2 slots ) Knowledge of basic shell scripting for automating day to day tasks Knowledge of hosting stand-alone java applications on linux server & hosting web applications in tomcat / other web servers is an added advantage Self-learning is a must. Never-say-die spirit is a prerequisite. Good communication skills required for interacting with development team and end users to coordinate and to resolve issues. PLEASE REPLY BACK TO s.shankar(a)htechsoln.com Thanks & Regards, S Shankar

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Important GNU/Linux Binaries & Tools
by Naveen Dhanuka 09 May '07

09 May '07

Hi All, I need help in adding regular and important gnu/linux tools/binaries into different categories that i have already made on my wiki. Please help add important tools/binaries on this page. URL: http://www.elearn.in/wiki/index.php?title=GNU/Linux_Commands If you feel that there another category to be added, please do that as well. Also add your name & email address in the list of contributors. Regards, Naveen Dhanuka

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[commercial] New Linux magazine
by Linux Magzen 07 May '07

07 May '07

Hello all, I have started a monthly online linux magazine for Indians. It is totally free of cost with no advertisement or any commercial gains. If anyone is interested in writing articles for the same please let me know. Your article will be published along with your name/email/website/contact. Everyone is welcomed from students to experienced developers. Please contact me on *linux.magzen(a)gmail.com* I also need tips on how to improve. Jai Hind. -- Linux Magzen Monthly Linux magazine for Linux users http://groups.google.com/group/linux-magzen email : *linux.magzen(a)gmail.com*

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Killimg bad cd/dvd scan process.
by Rony 06 May '07

06 May '07

Hello All, How does one kill a runaway bad cd/dvd reading process that does not allow any other program to run? Even in console, before one can log in and do ps -ax, it floods the screen with I/O error messages. Any keyboard shortcut to kill the process? Ctrl+C does not work. -- Regards, Rony.

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Kubuntu 7.04 DVD
by Satish Alwani 06 May '07

06 May '07

Alrite guys, I got the 7.04 DVD. If anyone wants this. Let me know Regards, Satish Alwani

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firefox and X together take up 100% of cpu usage???
by Pradnyesh Sawant 04 May '07

04 May '07

For the past few days i've been observing that when firefox is running continuously for some time (sometimes for minutes, sometime for hours), X and firefox are taking up 100% of cpu usage. My system details are as follows: os: debian testing (that's what i've got in my repos, dunno what version it is) firefox: Mozilla Iceweasel 2.0.0.3 xorg: 7.1.0-16 m/c: AMD 2600 XP+ custom compiled kernel: 2.6.20-6 i tried running strace -c on firefox for a few seconds, and this is what i've got: % time seconds usecs/call calls errors syscall ------ ----------- ----------- --------- --------- ---------------- 26.62 0.002113 0 4260 2100 readv 50.88 0.004039 2 2318 poll 0.23 0.000018 0 722 gettimeofday 0.00 0.000000 0 269 futex 0.00 0.000000 0 205 102 read 18.86 0.001497 8 192 77 writev 0.00 0.000000 0 140 write 0.00 0.000000 0 60 mmap2 3.41 0.000271 5 58 munmap 0.00 0.000000 0 39 ioctl ------ ----------- ----------- --------- --------- ---------------- 100.00 0.007938 8263 2279 total Can someone kindly point out what's happening? Or atleast give me pointers of looking at other places where i can find out what's going on... Thanks a lot! -- warm regards, Pradnyesh Sawant -- Be yourself, everyone else is taken. --Anon

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Linux on Vista Installation Report.
by Rony 04 May '07

04 May '07

Hello All, The installation went smoothly with no manual correction needed to grub. The machine was an HCL one with Pentium 2.8 Ghz. Dual Core, Gigabyte 955 mobo and 512 MB RAM with 15" LCD screen and DVD writer. OS was Vista Home basic. Kubuntu 7.04 64 bit was used to first boot live and test his Tata Indicom LG FWP. ( The Tata dealer had assured him of driver compatibility with Vista but after the purchase, could not keep it up. Tata CC guys put their hands up too.) The standard LG wvdial.conf worked and net was up and running. Installation was smooth just like other Kubuntus and after reboot we first booted into Vista to see if everything was ok. It was all fine. Since his 3rd partition was a 44 GB one, I had split it into 30 GB for FAT32, and the remaining for Linux root and swap. In Vista the 30 GB formatted vfat did not show up on My Computer. In the disk management, that partition was manually assigned a drive letter. Then it got visible and usable. For multimedia support in Kubuntu 7.04, I was looking for the repo list on the net but found nothing for Feisty. So from the same site http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full , the text '## Canonical 'Commercial' Repository deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main' was appended to the /etc/apt/sources.list file and the word 'edgy' was replaced with 'feisty'. In the command, 'sudo apt-get install totem-xine totem-xine-firefox-plugin libxine-extracodecs flashplugin-nonfree msttcorefonts sun-java5-plugin skype banshee streamtuner xmms realplay f-spot' (remove totem packages as they are for gnome) some of the softwares are not available so apt-get will throw errors. Eliminate the ones not available and the rest essential ones will get downloaded. As it became late and net was slow, I had to leave and could not test multimedia support. Otherwise the system is up and running on the net. -- Regards, Rony.

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kubuntu dvd
by Satish Alwani 03 May '07

03 May '07

Why download what we already have. Roshan said hes coming by this area to pick up etch and kubuntu from me. I guess you guys can synch and get it as well. Satish

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problem in installation of lan card in mandriva
by tapas nandi 02 May '07

02 May '07

hi everyone , i am a new user of linux , i have installed mandriva , but i am having some problem in the installation of lan card , as written in the manual i have done half the step , and in between i need to do a compilation step where the file sc92031.c is to be compiled and the output should be sc92031.o , i tried to compile it but errors are coming , i think some library files are not being found while compilation , can anyone tell me that what are those library files and where can i get them.....

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[Announce] the "MOWGLI" mailing list on mesh for Mumbai
by Vickram Crishna 02 May '07

02 May '07

The Mowgli mailing list has just opened up at http://recurrencies.net/mailman/listinfo/mowgli_recurrencies.net To subscribe, mail mowgli-subscribe(a)recurrencies.net and reply to the mail in the standard automated process verifier. The list will serve as a discussion ground for the deployment and use of a open mesh network for people in Mumbai to use. The primary objective is to build a local rich data functioning municipal area wireless mesh network open to all, with arms-length punctuated Internet access a future possibility. Anyone willing to either help build the network, using known mesh technology and community owned and run hardware, or to build projects (art, games, catalogues, collaborative performances etc) that will showcase network capabilities, or to research open technologies to optimally strengthen the network, or to research and develop new technology layers on the network, or to collectively build or provide access to storage layers to power data resources, or *anything* not covered in the previous descriptions but have the possibility of growing value for all, please do join in and let's get the ball rolling. fyi the first mesh node was built by LUGgers at HBCSE last month, and this list has grown out of the person-to-person discussions following that, to look for ways to bring this technology to bear for this *urban* area. Aside from Nagarjuna and myself, artists and educators and techie enthusiasts are coming together in the hope that more such efforts will catalyse the Mumbai mesh into self-sustaining growth. The practical functioning of the mesh will depend on and grow together from many community level networks in discrete but contiguous parts of the city. As far as the technology goes, we look for expertise (now and in the future) in antenna construction, hardware refabrication, OLSR, streaming, data cacheing and database management, content management and many more. We are lucky that listmembers here live in wide-spread areas of the city, and hope they will use the preliminary workshops and events conceptualised and being planned, to learn and to teach others to build out from there. Welcome. Vickram ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

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Wall command like utility/command in Linux
by Jagdish Chhailkar 01 May '07

01 May '07

I have 25 thin clients with builtin mozilla browser. I have a LAMP applicaiton running on a server. The users are accessing the application on their thin client using the builtin mozilla browser. My problem is : 1) when i want to shutdown the server , i didn't know whether somebody is using the application or not. 2) I have another server on which the users are logged in through X session called on their thin clients. If some/any users forgots to log-off his/her login then I didn't come to know that the users is not doing anythink. Is there any wall like command/utility , thru. which i can pass on a message which will be displayed on all the active users as well as the message will be passed to all the http users ? -Jagdish

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linux with Vista
by Amit Redij 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

> -----Original Message----- > From: linuxers-bounces(a)mm.glug-bom.org [mailto:linuxers-bounces@mm.glug- > bom.org] On Behalf Of Sachin Nambiar > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 1:01 PM > To: GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linux with Vista > > I have a dual boot Ubuntu along with Vista and have faced absolutely no > problems so far, > > > -- > Regards, > Sachin Gopal > Indian Pneumatic & Hydraulic Co. Pvt Ltd. > -- > http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers I have dual boot Kubuntu 7.04 & Vista on Toshiba Satellite. Works without any problem :) ============================================================================================================================ Disclaimer: This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Tech Mahindra policy statement, you may review at <a href="http://www.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html">http://www.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html</a> externally and <a href="http://tim.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html">http://tim.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html</a> internally within Tech Mahindra. ============================================================================================================================

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Re: Linux with Vista
by Easwar Hariharan 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

Hello, Rony,please keep the list informed about the progress of the Linux with Vista installation,whether it leads to success or failure.Pleease... Regards, Easwar

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linux with Vista
by Sachin Nambiar 30 Apr '07

30 Apr '07

I have a dual boot Ubuntu along with Vista and have faced absolutely no problems so far, -- Regards, Sachin Gopal Indian Pneumatic & Hydraulic Co. Pvt Ltd.

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Does anyone know about .vce format files and how to go about reading them
by ryan coelho 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

Hi Does anyone know about .vce format files and how to go about reading them Or how do I convert the .vce file to pdf file . Thanks & regards Ryan Coelho

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Re: Linux with Vista
by Easwar Hariharan 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Sorry to spoil the party,but there are reports of Vista refusing to boot up after Linux is installed,though those cases were on boxes with single HDDs.If your friend has 2 HDD's,then no problem,he can install vista on one and linux on the other but it involves some drive swapping as illustrated in the link below: http://wiki.gtwy.net/index.php/Dual_Boot_Vista_and_Linux Also,another link is; http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/about78184.html Regards, Easwar

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Linux with Vista
by Rony 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Hello All, A friend of mine bought a branded pc with Vista installed. However no additional peripherals work as their drivers are not available in vista. I suggested that he install Linux in dual boot and he has agreed. I only want to know if Linux and Vista will live peacefully and boot from Grub. Does Vista have the same booting method as XP? -- Regards, Rony.

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Kubuntu 6.10/7.04 64 bit CDs required.
by Rony 28 Apr '07

28 Apr '07

Hello All, Does anyone have Kubuntu 6.10 or 7.04 64 bit CDs? If so please let me know offline. -- Regards, Rony.

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Answering Machine Software
by Manish Kathuria 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

Can someone suggest a stable linux based answering machine software requiring a simple voice modem ? Thanks, Manish

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[OT]: Broadband prices, from less to free?
by Roshan 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

Hello List, Read this: http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/apr/26broad.htm Quote from the article "He said that bandwidth costs too are likely to see a drastic reduction shortly with BSNL and MTNL planning to host web servers within the country by the middle of this year. Maran said these PSUs would set up web servers, which will enable the internet traffic to be diverted within India instead of being routed out of the country. This will reduce bandwidth costs significantly, he said, adding that Internet access charges would also come down." set up web servers? Is "Internet Backbones" the technically correct word? If internet traffic are routed out of the country, VSNL is just a gateway to it? VSNL, doesn't have an backbone? There is one backbone at Karachi and one at Lahore in neigbouring country, according to http://speedtest.net/ -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc Add online presence to your web pages, find out how here - http://messenger.yahoo.com/addpresence.php

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Virtual Distributed Ethernet
by Chetan S 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Hi All, Came across this cool piece of software - Virtual Distributed Ethernet -http://vde.sourceforge.net/ It basically allows you to simulate a network on a single computer and it allows you to connect these distributed ethernets to each other. It is extremely useful if you have multiple images running under qemu and wish to connect them , simulating physical hosts. sadly it is not packaged into deb. regards, C

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Hello World!
by Omkar Raut 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Hi, This is my first mail to mumbai lug! 1) Is there a good shop in mumbai to buy linux pre-installed laptop (see http://www.system76.com/ ) 2) What laptop brands are said to be most suitable for linux? -Omkar.

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HP Officejet 4255 printing blank pages in Ubuntu 7.04
by Sachin Nambiar 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

We have a HP officejet 4255 all-in-one printer-fax-scanner-copier machine which i need t configure with ubuntu. While my laptop dualboot ubuntu 7.04 does recognise the printer and assign hp 4200 series drivers, it keeps printing only blanks. I tried hplip, tried exporting it to pdf format then printing. Googling wasn't much help as similar problem was either unanswered in forums or solved by exporting to pdf. Is there any internal printer or some other setting i have overlooked? Please guide.. Regards, Sachin Gopal Indian Pneumatic & Hydraulic Co. Pvt Ltd.

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How many Debian Etch CDs you need?
by Praveen A 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Hi, Interesting overview of the 331 discs of Debian 4.0 etch http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/tour_of_the_Debian_4.0_CDs/ Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Acer 2428 Fully Linux Loaded
by Rony 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Hello All, Now that the Acer 2428 is fully Linux loaded, I have written a wiki how-to at our site below. http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Acer2428_Fully_Linux_Compatible -- Regards, Rony.

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Linux Based Point-of-Sale and Inventory System
by Prashant Verma 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Hi, I'm looking to customize/deploy a POS/Inventory system for a small store chain. I was wondering if anyone on the list has developed/deployed a complete POS system based on Linux and/or FOSS and how their experience turned out to be. If you did, please drop me a note at my email address and I'd appreciate it if I could discuss this in detail with you. -Prashant

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the age old question : i did rm -Rf by mistake - what do i do
by Vihan Pandey 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Hello, A lot of *nix people often wonder the answer to the age old question : i did rm -Rf by mistake - what do i do now ? Well, there are quite a few answers to the same. Thankfully there is now a simple answer (with not so headbreaking). A friend of mine tried it out on his Ubuntu box(on ext3) and was able to recover a ton of stuff deleted over the ages. To make things even better the answer is GPL :D And the answer is : http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec Regards, - vihan

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Multimedia support in Ubuntu and Kubuntu 6.06 6.10
by Rony 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Hello All, I was with Krish when he mentioned that he had successfully got multimedia playback in Ubuntu, by adding some repositories manually in the apt sources list and downloading extra packages. When I got back, a google search revealed this page below and that finally did it. http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full This explains everything in a simple and straightforward way. As I use Kubuntu, in the line 'sudo apt-get install totem-xine totem-xine-firefox-plugin libxine-extracodecs flashplugin-nonfree msttcorefonts sun-java5-plugin skype banshee streamtuner xmms realplay f-spot' The 'totem-xine totem-xine-firefox-plugin' entries were removed as they are for Gnome and apt throws errors. The important package is libxine-extracodecs. I am now able to play VCDs with sound. My DVD freezes at the introductory text itself but that could be due to bad media or my DVD writer is country locked. Anyway now I am quite happy with the progress and hope others who were tearing their hair over multimedia in Debian based distros will find some relief from the link above. -- Regards, Rony.

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Sabayon-Mandriva Conflict
by Easwar Hariharan 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

During installation of Sabayon 3.25,the GRUB didn't have an entry for Mandriva 07,therefore,I added an entry labeled Mandriva Linux 2007 and pointed it to root partition for Mandriva namely sda5(partition 5,HDD 0) for Sabayon.But Mandriva refuses to boot with the error message given below and tells me to press any key.When I press a key,it sends me back to GRUB.FYI,my home partition(sda7 partition 7,HDD 0) is separate from my root partition in Mandriva. All partitions are logical. On the advice of a friend who knows something about Gentoo and Sabayon,I modified the entry for Mandriva in /boot/grub/menu.lst as follows: title 'Mandriva Linux 2007' root(hd0,4) kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 initrd /boot/initrd.gz Presently,the error message is:(/*....*/ are comments and not part of the error message) Booting 'Mandriva Linux 2007' root(hd0,4)/*Since I have only 1 HDD,hd0 and since Mandriva root is in hda5,partition number-1=4*/ Filesystem type is ext2fs,partition type 0x83/*But I have all linux partitions as ext3fs!*/ kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 /*I tried sda5 too,with and without(w/o) ro and hda5 with and w/o ro*/ [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1e00, size=0x1b68d6] /*All greek and latin to me*/ initrd /boot/initrd.gz Error 15:File not found. Press any key to continue..._ /*When any key is pressed,it sends me back to the GRUB menu*/ Please Help. Regards, Easwar

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Real-time help ? IRC is the place to be!
by Roshan 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

Hello List, For those from Windows background, are /usually/ not aware of IRC, apart from theoretical knowledge, the following URL points to an article, that tells you how to get going. http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/04/14/0631220 I hope, we can expect a few new members on channels, mentioned in the wiki. (This also tells me, a newbie guide to IRC is missing in the wiki). :) -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC - http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc Send a FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Yahoo! Messenger. Get it now at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] bash proxy settings
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

>> To confirm that this actually works do: >> $ nslookup gnu.org >> on your own machine. > This works Good. >> [ If you can not have a DNS then try: >> $ ping 199.232.41.10 >> If this fails, then read on.] > This does not - dest unreachable Do you have a gateway? Remeber a proxy and gateway are different although they can be on the same machine. If you have a gateway then it is not forwarding ICMP ECHO packets. Can you do: $ traceroute google.com I still would like to know what you are trying to achieve? Anything particular you want? Cheers, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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GPLv3, Linux and GPLv2 Compatibility
by Praveen A 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

Hi, Very interesting discussions on the effect of GPLv3 on Linux, the kernel and GNU/Linux distributions. http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/04/gplv3_linux_and.html It discusses many of the corner cases and analyses the effects of glibc going to LGPL and distribution copyrights. It helped me to understand many of the issues in a better way. Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Gnash WAS Kububtu 6.10 DVD
by Vickram Crishna 21 Apr '07

21 Apr '07

> > From: Rony <ronbillypop(a)yahoo.co.uk> > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" > <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:40:17 +0530 > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Gnash WAS Kububtu 6.10 DVD > Installation. > > Vickram Crishna wrote: > > > > > Please everyone see project Gnash - join in if you > are > > interested. It's a really cool project by some > good > > people to resolve all the nasty proprietary issues > > around video - including flash animation. Normal > is > > really boring, after all! > > > > > Hi. > > Gnash is a flash movie player. I did not find any > mention about playing > VCDs and DVDs on the site. > It is an online video player, intended to render all streaming type movies (YouTube) as well as flash animations. From the archives, you will gain a huge amount of understanding of how bits are rendered in pixels, no matter what the codecs involved, whether it is about lines of text or images. Vickram ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.ht…

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openSUSE 10.2 Dual Layer DVD
by Rahulkrishna Gupta 20 Apr '07

20 Apr '07

Hi, In case anybody is interested in openSUSE 10.2, you can pick up a copy from the Novell office. All you need to do is to come down to the Novell Office and pick up a copy. Its completely free of any cost and you don't need to provide a blank DVD in return. The media is a Dual Layer DVD with all the packages. It includes a 32-bit as well as a 64-bit version of openSUSE. You can spread out the message to other LUG groups as well as to your friends and acquaintances. In case you have any queries, please contact me. Novell Office Address: Novell India Pvt. Ltd. 62 MIDC, 13th Street, Andheri (E), Mumbai - 400 093 Phone: 28342244 Landmark: Lane opposite to Hotel Tunga Paradise You can come during office hours between Monday to Friday. At present, this is the arrangement that we have been able to make. Note: If you are organizing an Open Source event and want to distribute openSUSE DVDs at the event, please get in touch with me. Thanks. Regards, RahulKrishna Gupta Novell India Pvt. Ltd.

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Connected to the internet (MTNL Triband) using USB in Kubuntu 6.06
by Roshan 20 Apr '07

20 Apr '07

Hello List, I was trying to connect to the internet using different Live CDs including Freespire, Ubuntu 6.10, Xubuntu 6.10. through the USB port that was conne cted to the ADSL (Dlink 502-T) router. Somehow, all the above didn't manage to configure the device automatically on boot up, though Ubuntu 6.10 listed the device on the device manger. I finally tried Dapper Drake (Kubuntu 6.06) and it automatically configured the device (allocating IP address through DHCP) and Konqueror (my smart browser - as I call it) proved that the device is working and I'm connected to the internet. I wonder, if Ubuntu has the same base as Kubuntu, why didn't ubuntu do it? AFAIK, the desktop environment is the different, but the base is same, isn't it? (This was on Dell E1405 running the Kubuntu 6.06 Live CD). If one can list steps, that I probably had to follow for Ubuntu 6.10, please let me know. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC - http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc Send a FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Yahoo! Messenger. Get it now at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Gnash WAS Kububtu 6.10 DVD Installation.
by Vickram Crishna 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

--- linuxers-request(a)mm.glug-bom.org wrote: > > From: Rony <ronbillypop(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Multimedia audio/video is not proper as > usual even after all > the upgrades and codec installations. But thats > normal in Linux. Open > media formats play fine. Please everyone see project Gnash - join in if you are interested. It's a really cool project by some good people to resolve all the nasty proprietary issues around video - including flash animation. Normal is really boring, after all! Vickram ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

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Invitation To OPEN HOUSE
by Naveen Kumar 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

Dear Friends, CDAC Mumbai is organising an OPEN HOUSE on the 21st April 2007 at its Juhu campus where delegates can interact with our R&D staff and get a feel of the various research/development/educational activities in progress at the centre. This will broaden their exposure to the field of IT and pave way for closer interaction with CDAC Mumbai. There will be demonstrations of systems developed by us, presentations by some of the reseachers, etc. This is also an opportunity for people to get a feel of our research labs and know more about our educational programs. We invite you, your colleagues and your friends to the open house. Please find a poster about this event at: http://www.cdacmumbai.in/design/corporate_site/override/images/OH-Poster200… We request you to pass on this information to others and also publicise the event among your colleagues and friends. -- Thanks & regards Naveen Kumar Project Engineer Open Source Software Division( http://ossrc.org.in/ ) C-DAC Mumbai ( http://www.cdacmumbai.in/ ) ( http://moebiuscurve.livejournal.com/ )

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Kububtu 6.10 DVD Installation.
by Rony 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

Hello All, I am so happy. :) Finally I got rid of Etch testing and installed my long awaited Kubuntu 6.10 dvd. It has more boot options than 6.06 and the dvd has a server version included. So for installing a server one has to type 'server' or 'server-expert' at boot prompt. There is an option for command line only install in the main menu itself. Its paint program is much improvised from the earlier one that was like M$ Paint. This one has 'Krita' which has good features like photoshop or gimp. I love KDE. Long live KDE. Cheers to all the KDE guys. Keep up the good work. Multimedia audio/video is not proper as usual even after all the upgrades and codec installations. But thats normal in Linux. Open media formats play fine. Finally, those who have always been searching for an option to boot any Ubuntu cd into a live root console only, I found the solution from the net. Simply use the option that allows you to edit the boot string and add 'single' at the end of the line and hit enter. This boots the system live into a root prompt without asking for a password. I have hunted for this in the cd menu itself but could never find it. I tried 1 and rescue but that did not help. I recollect using 'single' for Red Hat. -- Regards, Rony.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] PXE Boot
by Koustubha Kale 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

----- Original Message ---- From: Koustubha Kale <koustubha_kale(a)yahoo.com> To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:23:03 AM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] PXE Boot >----- Original Message ---- >From: mahesh pokhriyal <mahesh_pokhriyal(a)yahoo.com> >To: Linux Group Mumbai <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> >Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:54:35 PM >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] PXE Boot > >Hello Friends, > > I configured ltsp for PXE Boot in Fedora 5 . But when i try to boot from Client pc through PXE Boot i got error message: > >Doing the pivot_root >pivot_root: pivot_root: No such file or directory >Mounting the devfs filesystem >mount: Mounting /devfs on /dev failed: device or resource busy >Running /sbin/init >exec: /sbin/init: no such file or directory >Kernel Panic : Attempted to kill init! > >Note:- My client pc have onboard LAN with Boot Rom supporting. > Also my pc have in which i configured ltsp support Boot Rom. > I also try with RHEL ES 4 but i face same problem. > >Do i need an external PXE Boot lan card for my client PC. > >Pls. help me & give me solution friends. > >Thanks & Regards, > >Mahesh Pokhriyal Its failing at the point where it does a pivot root to wherever you stored ltsp e.g. /opt/ltsp Check the path in the dhcpd.conf file. Also check the path to tftpdroot folder. It should NOT have the leading /tftpdroot or whatever is your path.. Example for dhcpd.conf.. http://osl.birzeit.edu:8080/wiki2/index.php/Dhcpd.conf_for_LTSP Also check your NFS exports to confirm that /opt/ltsp/i386 IS being exported.. With warm regards Koustubha Kale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] PXE Boot
by Koustubha Kale 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

>----- Original Message ---- >From: mahesh pokhriyal <mahesh_pokhriyal(a)yahoo.com> >To: Linux Group Mumbai <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> >Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:54:35 PM >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] PXE Boot > >Hello Friends, > > I configured ltsp for PXE Boot in Fedora 5 . But when i try to boot from Client pc through PXE Boot i got error message: > >Doing the pivot_root >pivot_root: pivot_root: No such file or directory >Mounting the devfs filesystem >mount: Mounting /devfs on /dev failed: device or resource busy >Running /sbin/init >exec: /sbin/init: no such file or directory >Kernel Panic : Attempted to kill init! > >Note:- My client pc have onboard LAN with Boot Rom supporting. > Also my pc have in which i configured ltsp support Boot Rom. > I also try with RHEL ES 4 but i face same problem. > >Do i need an external PXE Boot lan card for my client PC. > >Pls. help me & give me solution friends. > >Thanks & Regards, > >Mahesh Pokhriyal Its failing at the point where it does a pivot root to wherever you stored ltsp e.g. /opt/ltsp Check the path in the dhcpd.conf file. Also check the path to tftpdroot folder. It should NOT have the leading /tftpdroot or whatever is your path.. Example for dhcpd.conf.. http://osl.birzeit.edu:8080/wiki2/index.php/Dhcpd.conf_for_LTSP With warm regards Koustubha Kale __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Installfest
by Mrugesh Karnik 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

Hi Luggers, I think its about time we held an installfest. I know a couple of college students who want to use Linux but are unable to install it. Let's host it somewhere and announce to the masses. -- ---------------------------------------- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net ----------------------------------------

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Configuring sendmail to work with gmail hosted domain
by Vinayakam Murugan 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

Hello We have moved our domain hosting to gmail recently. We want to continue using our linux server as our local post office. The problem faced is that the sender's email address is sent as the user whose credentials are used for authentication. Suppose xyz(a)mydomain.com is the user whose credentials are used for authentication, then mail sent by me go out as Vinayakam Murugan ( xyz(a)mydomain.com) instead of (vinayak(a)mydomain.com) which was the case earlier. We have added the following lines to my sendmail.mc LOCAL_CONFIG C{VirtHost}mydomain.com <http://o-i.com/> FEATURE(`nocanonify') define(`confCON_EXPENSIVE',`true') define(`confME_TOO',`true') define(`SMTP_MAILER_FLAGS',e) define(SMART_HOST,mydomain <http://mail.w-o-i.com/>.com <http://o-i.com/>) dnl define(`SMTP_MAILER_MAXRCPTS',`1') MASQUERADE_AS(`mydomain.com <http://o-i.com/>') define(`confMAX_MESSAGE_SIZE',`10000000') FEATURE(`always_add_domain') FEATURE(`allmasquerade') FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain') FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=465,Addr=10.0.0.1, Name=MTA') Any pointers to what might be going wrong would be helpful. -- Warm Regards ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vinayak http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you aim to fly, then don't hang around with chickens. Why? Because chickens can't fly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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list of all commands
by praveen shinde 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

Hi , how can i get a list of all the commands available in solaris 10 /linux. man can be used to find help about each command. but i want to have a list of all the commands thanks Praveen shinde. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

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problem with kernel compilation
by Pradnyesh Sawant 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

Hello, I am trying to compile a linux kernel (actually, have tried 2: linux-2.6.19.1.tar.bz2 and linux-2.6.20.6.tar.bz2 (got the latest copy from www.kernel.org)), on gcc:- $ gcc -v Using built-in specs. Target: i486-linux-gnu Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++,treelang --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls --program-suffix=-4.1 --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --enable-mpfr --with-tune=i686 --enable-checking=release i486-linux-gnu Thread model: posix gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) on both the kernels, on doing a "make menuconfig", i get the foll errors (not giving the whole list of errors): scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:193: error: expected ')' before '*' token scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:116: error: 'WINDOW' undeclared (first use in this function) scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:130: error: 'KEY_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function) scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:232: warning: implicit declaration of function 'wrefresh' scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:210: error: 'KEY_UP' undeclared (first use in this function) and *weirdly* enough, i opened a particular file (scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c), and found that "KEY_UP", etc have actually NOT been defined :( am i doing something wrong? -- warm regards, Pradnyesh Sawant -- Be yourself, everyone else is taken. --Anon

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GSoC/KDE-2007 and our lug member
by Rony 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

Anant Narayanan wrote: > > > Not just a few, I am proud to say that we have about 60 Indian students in GSoC this year; including 3 from my college. I sincerely hope that atleast 30 of these students will stick around to become permanent contributors to their respective projects. > > Just curious to know, will the GSoC contributed code be GPLed and available to the public? -- Regards, Rony.

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JSP problem with Firefox
by Rony 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

Hello All, I was filling out the online passport registration form and had problems with the date field. After the focus was moved to any other field, the last digit of the date would get cut. You can try it out on the link below. https://passport.gov.in/pms/OnlineRegistration.jsp Even reducing the date from 4 to 2 characters show the same result. Even in windows the same problem existed in firefox. The only way it worked was in IE7. (It may be working in IE6 too but I don't have it). Is there a work around for this? I am planning to write to the Delhi office that may be in charge of the website. You could write too. -- Regards, Rony.

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Firefox: Adding Search Engines
by Rony 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

Hello All, I was trying to add a search engine in Firefox 1.5 but the link to add engines would throw errors. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/searchplugins/updates So I removed the text up to firefox and this showed up. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/ This page had a link to add search engines and is given below. This link works. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:4 -- Regards, Rony.

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The techie way of "why switch to ... ?"
by Roshan 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Hello List, http://www.lobby4linux.com/clips/switchlinux.swf -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC - http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc Send a FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Yahoo! Messenger. Get it now at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/

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Usefull link on OLSR
by Rony 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Hello All, I was reading a BBC report on the search engine www.ask.com and decided to try it. The keywords 'olsr wireless mesh' threw up nice results and in this page http://events.ccc.de/congress/2005/fahrplan/events/1103.en.html there is a pdf file that explains the practical aspects of OLSR meshes and how to optimise link quality. http://events.ccc.de/congress/2005/fahrplan/attachments/665-Slides_Communit… -- Regards, Rony.

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Debian Etch review
by Kumar Appaiah 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Dear Linuxers, This is a nice article about how the Debian project has tried to "redefine" itself with Etch: http://distrocenter.linux.com/distrocenter/07/04/13/1231226.shtml?tid=106 Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036

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GSoC/KDE-2007 and our lug member
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

Hi, I am sure most of us know about the annual event Google Summer Of Code. Like past years The KDE Project participated this year even. Actually I had posted about the event when it was kicked off this year. Anyways, results were declared sometime back and KDE got some 40[1] [2] slots from Google. But for me the bigger and happier news is that a lot of Indians participated this year and quite a few them submitted good proposals. There were 216 eligible proposals in all that were submitted to The KDE Project. And the news that is even more happier and bigger is that one of the chosen candidates is from our ``Amchi Mumbai" even - Sharan Rao. Some of us surely must have seen him / met him at LUG meets or otherwise. Sharan has been an occasional contributor to K3B since last year. Sharan's proposal about Umbrello was happily selected by mentors - I say this because I was present at the meeting and I noticed how proposals were judged strictly by core KDE devs. I think, I have mentioned before how being a ``actual" contributor helps in such cases because they already have seen your code. And more importantly, a good proposal does it job really well. Sharan's proposal was really good, more importantly something he thought all by himself and was completely out of the box and mentors didnot even put forth that in the stock ideas. All he did was found a cool application and found what it was lacking and made a good proposal around it. To be fair to other candidates, I must admit most of the 40 accepted proposals were just like that of Sharan. And all such proposals just passed with flying colours even if there was a discussion/debate on pros and cons of the proposals. If there were only disputes, it was due to certain conflicting proposals or duplicate proposals for the same idea, in which case the most suitable candidate was selected which ofcourse was measured by a scale called as - "who show most enthusiasm and maybe has submitted most patches or proposal was very very strong". It was taken care that proposal was worth atleast 30+ hours per week of work and was even informed to student if he had other ideas. Anything less and the candidate was questioned. I was sort of happy and pleasantly surprised watching mentors calling a spade a spade or some such metaphor. And since I have spoken to personally ( or heard about ) quite a few candidates this year, the common thing was their enthusiasm and willingness - be it Mike Authur, Marcus Hanwell or Sharan or anybody else. Anirudh Ramesh (based in Singapore) and Piyush Verma (Delhi based) are the other Indians in the list. Good luck to you both. Do well. Also heartiest congratulaltions to other members of the list who have been selected as well for other projects. Good wishes to all of you. Sharan, dude you rock! Congratulations and loads of good wishes. And one guy whom I really need to thank is our beloved admin - Anurag - who was instrumental in helping me get introduced to ( and meet ) Sharan ( - my favourite twit, is what I like to call him ) sometime Feb '06 or so. He has done really well for himself and learnt a lot without any other expectations and more importantly has contributed some lines of code to Free Software and I am sure he will do much much more. [1] http://dot.kde.org/1176336589/ [2] http://code.google.com/soc/kde/about.html Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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OT -- [ Commercial]Embedded Linux Developer Required
by Akshay Mishra 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

Hello all, I am working with a small team on software development/embedded development. Need BE (EE/CS) with linux/embedded development expertise. 1-2 years of experience and a "Linux hand" should be good. The requirement is to work on an embedded platform/driver and application development. The association is open, in terms of either on project contract basis (4 months full time project) or becoming an employee . We can discuss that for the suitable candidate. You could drop me an e-mail if the work described suits you or if you desire more information Regards, Akshay

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PXE Boot
by mahesh pokhriyal 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

Hello Friends, I configured ltsp for PXE Boot in Fedora 5 . But when i try to boot from Client pc through PXE Boot i got error message: Doing the pivot_root pivot_root: pivot_root: No such file or directory Mounting the devfs filesystem mount: Mounting /devfs on /dev failed: device or resource busy Running /sbin/init exec: /sbin/init: no such file or directory Kernel Panic : Attempted to kill init! Note:- My client pc have onboard LAN with Boot Rom supporting. Also my pc have in which i configured ltsp support Boot Rom. I also try with RHEL ES 4 but i face same problem. Do i need an external PXE Boot lan card for my client PC. Pls. help me & give me solution friends. Thanks & Regards, Mahesh Pokhriyal --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

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Wireless free information system successfully setup.
by Rony 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

Hello All, On Saturday 14th April 2007 we successfully setup the wireless mesh running the free information server. This time the OLSR protocol was also loaded into 2 laptops that acted as additional nodes. The server machine with Apache2 was loaded with CD and DVD isos in the /var/www/ folder and we could visit the machine through the mesh and access the web page with all the isos. So finally we were having tea in the canteen and downloading Linux isos on our laptops. The linux laptop got a speed of 1.2 Mbps to 800 Kbps and the windows laptop got abot 500 Kbps. We can work on the speed part. What a nice day to start the free information network. It was the 'Jayanti' of Dr. Ambedkar who wanted to empower the people with freedom and knowledge. The full setup is available at http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/WirelessMesh - Regards, Rony.

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Signup procedure for the wiki
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

Hi, Is it possible to have a stronger signup procedure for the wiki? I think something as simple as email confirmation should do the trick. Simply entering a username and password is making it really simple for bots to play havoc. -- Siddhesh Poyarekar http://siddhesh.tk

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Wireless Mesh meet at HBCSE
by Rony 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

Hello All, We are meeting again tomorrow Saturday 10.30 am onwards 14th April 2007 at HBCSE Mankhurd for the wireless mesh setup. This time we will be setting up the content server and is a very good opportunity to see how the mesh will provide free information to the public. All those who attend are requested to bring their laptops if possible, to test the mesh as much as we can. -- Regards, Rony.

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Old distros cds! Interested?
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

Hey, I have a few old Kubuntu CDs and few new ones even lying around. Where old = 5.10 and new = 6.10. I have some ed/ubuntu - 6.10 as well. Now if anybody is interested please ping me offlist, we can arrange a meeting or meet during a lug meet or some such and I can give you the cds then. And before somebody says - ohhhh those are old, why would I need those? Umm, you think. maybe old hardware or whatever. I am sure there might be some use other than distributing those to autorickshaw drivers in Panvel. Btw, those 5.10 Kubuntu CDs, were sent directly by Jonathan Riddell because those days there was no shipit for kubuntu or whatever. Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Jayanta has Tagged you! :)
by Roshan 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

--- Jayanta Chandra wrote: > <removed content> Jayanta, I'm posting this message to your email address as well as to the list. I humbly request you to avoid sharing your address book (if it includes the email address of the list) with social networking websites such as tagged, zorpia, orkut. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC - http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc Send a FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Yahoo! Messenger. Get it now at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Jayanta has Tagged you! :)
by Philip Tellis 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

Sometime Today, Jayanta Chandra assembled some asciibets to say: > Is Jayanta C your friend? > > Please respond or Jayanta may think you said no :( If you know Jayanta, please let him know that we said no and that he is no longer a member of this list. Thank you.

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Jayanta has Tagged you! :)
by Jayanta Chandra 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

[imgsrv.php?uid=36529445] Jayanta C, 22 India Jayanta C has added you as a friend Is Jayanta C your friend? Please respond or Jayanta may think you said no :( [1]Click here to unsubscribe from Tagged, P.O. Box 193152 San Francisco, CA 94119-3152 References Visible links 1. http://www.taggedmail.com/no_more.html?unsem=linuxers%40mm.glug-bom.org&tId… Hidden links: 2. http://www.taggedmail.com/welcome.html?conn=1y87dfgs0&ect=5espx52&tId=13006… 3. http://www.taggedmail.com/welcome.html?conn=1y87dfgs0&ect=5espx52&tId=13006…

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Wireless Mesh - Progress and success
by Roshan 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

Hello All, Mr. Rony will post details of today's session along with other links. The document for Wireless Mesh has been updated and is available at http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/WirelessMesh There are plans for the next week too, but they aren't confirmed. However, if we (GLUG-BOM members) do plan to meet up, I'll request you to come up with resources (GNU/Linux, Free documents etc.) that can be shared across the mesh network and accessible to those who want them. (atleast indirectly). We had two mesh clients (if that is the correct terminology, technically) as Sabayon Linux on one laptop and Microsoft Windows XP on another and tried downloading distros (600 MB and above) with speeds ranging from 300 KiloBytes / second - 700 KB / second. (Statistics from Mozilla Firefox, with its default download manager). -- S K Somaiya College of ASC - http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in Send a FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Yahoo! Messenger. Get it now at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/

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Rollback of changes made by bots
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 14 Apr '07

14 Apr '07

I noticed some changes made by bots to the wiki: http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Brochure_Quick_Guide by UypR5w and http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Sandbox by FxzU6e Can the admins please reverse this? -- Siddhesh Poyarekar http://siddhesh.tk

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Debian Guide
by Rony 14 Apr '07

14 Apr '07

Hello All, With Debian Etch doing the rounds, here is a useful link on various settings of Debian. http://www.aboutdebian.com/contents.htm -- Regards, Rony.

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Need Debian Etch DVD
by Joel A Divekar 13 Apr '07

13 Apr '07

Hi AllCan anybody help me with copy of Debian Etch DVDs. My office is near Lower Parel and I stay at Kurla. I can provide blank DVD in exchange or pay for the DVD. Please call or mail. Thanks.RegardsJoelMumbai+91 9867572484

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Fwd: [Fsf-friends] Debian Etch Release Party on the 21st:BMSCE, Bangalore
by Roshan 13 Apr '07

13 Apr '07

Was somebody waiting for a Debian release party? ;) --- Vikram Vincent <vincentvikram(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello All, > Considering certain important factors the Debian > Etch Release Party will be > on the 21st, April,2007. > http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Bangalore/BMSCE/Debian_Etch_Release_Party -- S K Somaiya College of ASC - http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in Send a FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Yahoo! Messenger. Get it now at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/

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Re: wireless mesh at hbcse successfully done
by Vickram Crishna 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

--- jtd wrote: > On Tuesday 10 April 2007 00:09, Vickram Crishna > wrote: > > Actually, I > > think from what I heard in Dharamsala, it should > be > > possible for us to 'mesh' into the system remotely > > wherever we are located, provided we run OLSR > locally > > and tune it to the same mesh. In that case, > > downloading the resources will be just a hop or or > two > > away. Is this understanding correct? > > More or less. except that the range is limited to > about 100 mtr > outdoors No, I meant that what I thought I saw in Dharamsala, was a bunch of people running OLSR on their machines, and becoming part of the Berlin mesh. Vickram ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.ht…

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Hidden bots in GLUG-BOM Wiki?
by Roshan 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Hello List, Apparently, I have been notified of changes to wiki pages constantly by some unknown / unregistered usernames who don't seem to change anything on the page (according to the page history). Does this indicate that there are hidden bots attacking the wiki or is it simply something else that I am unaware of? Any wikipedian (on this list) aware of what it could be? What could be done to solve it? -- S K Somaiya College of ASC - http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in Send a FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Yahoo! Messenger. Get it now at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/

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wireless mesh at hbcse successfully done
by Nagarjuna G. 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Hi all, particularly those who attended the workshop on 31st March and 1st April, and last saturday Rony, Jtd resumed the work. Status: Last saturday we successfully managed to get the mesh working. Actually the mesh works out of the box like a charm. We only used several of our legacy skills and actually wasted lot of time. But at the end every moment spent was useful. We now know exactly what to communicate to others who wish to setup such a mesh (mess ;-) successfully. The dhcp on wireless was not working as of Saturday, but today afternoon I tried based on a reply from the olsr-users mailing list. Again it worked out of the box. What I did: installed a package called 'freifunk-dnsmasq', restarted it. Now we see an additional parameter on the web interface called OLSR-DHCP: This is where we give the DHCP share of the mesh network (not the lan network). thats it. Now we have a working mesh in the campus. I will write documentation here: http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/WirelessMesh. Please add to everything I missed out. I will also upload few screen shots so that new teams setting it up will find it useful. Next step: Prepare a server (Rony contributed a server) and dump useful resources there for community use. Next time, gluggers can walk into our campus and sit in our lounge with a laptop and takeaway what the server has. If we get a list of goodies that the community needs we will begin archiving them. So send such a request to glab(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in. we will download them during the night time and leave it one the server. Nagarjuna

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browser cant resolve domain names .....
by Vivek Chaure 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Hi list , I have a Fedora Core 6 on my machine. I have a DSL 502T and a 'Realtek ' ethernet card , When I connect to the DSL router via DHCP , I can ping any domain name . however I am not able to browse the web through any of web-browsers .I have to put in IP addresses explicitly into the browser.No domain names are getting resolved. Please help. -- regards , Vivek M. Chaure B.E.(C.S.E.)

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Debian Etch DVD Set
by Satish Alwani 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Vihan, I currently have it being downloaded, maybe you can do dvd 2 / dvd 3. Its 38% percent done since last night when I started. I think I should have it in the next 2 days odd. I could send you a copy if you want. So i strongly suggest you work on disc 2 first. I am trying to get one of my friends to pitch in and do disc 3 if possible. Once I have all the discs, I can send 1 copy to nagarjuna as well, so he can directly dump it on the server. TIFR is like 10 mins away for me, else courier zindabad. As of the site, I dont think I have seen it since maybe 3-4 years, if not more. I know it has errors, it was written for php3 maybe the beginning of php4. Just running out of time of updating my own stuff. As mentioned, it was for IE5.5, thats pretty old. Regards, Satish

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debian etch final copy
by Satish Alwani 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Anyone here got the final release DVD's of debian etch? I can pick it up, I am in Colaba. or if someone sending out DVD's via courier, that would be doable too. Thanks, Satish 9820658557

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Fwd: [Ilug-cal-discuss] [Fwd: [ilugd] [commercial]]
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <sankarshan.mukhopadhyay(a)gmail.com> Date: Apr 11, 2007 8:55 AM Subject: [Ilug-cal-discuss] [Fwd: [ilugd] [commercial]] To: ilug-Cal's principal mailing list <ilug-cal-discuss(a)list.ilug-cal.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ilugd] [commercial] Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:26:06 +0100 From: Karanbir Singh <mail-lists(a)karan.org> Reply-To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <ilugd(a)lists.linux-delhi.org> To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <ilugd(a)lists.linux-delhi.org> Hi, We ( DSource Plc ) are looking to hire 3 ( three ) sysadmins in India. I am going to try and cover the details, briefly - feel free to send questions my way; either onlist or offlist. Also, if you know someone who might be interested,feel free to forward this email to them. Job Spec: While the job is primarily system admin and network management, there is a fair bit of 'script coding' that is also required. Required: The Indian operation is just starting off, so initial work will require a fair bit of remote 'pairing'. We are also going to be spending a few months in India onsite at a client, so expect to be thrown right into the firezone. Technologies that should not be strange to you : Linux ( we are a 100% CentOS / RHEL shop ), Xen, selinux, puppet ( and/or cfengine ), isp grade networks ( routing, packet monitoring and performance testing ), high performance database's, high density storage, large data volume handling. You *must* be able to write scripted code in ruby. Python and php are also handy to know - but not required - since lots of our legacy stuff is done in python and php ( dont ask, the php stuff was before my time ... ). We dont really care about what degree you have. we also dont care if you got 60% or 90% in your exams or what certificates you carry along with you. But, you need to be able to communicate in English, must have atleast a few years of working in a related environment. Common sense and an ability to rationally think are, however, critical! General sysadmin skills are essential ( we will test you on these ). People with a well thumbed copy of 'unix power tools' should definitely apply! All assignments are permanent, full time and come with the govt requirements for benefits etc. Location: We are looking for people based in Pune, Delhi and Chennai as a base. However, for people based in Delhi and Chennai there will be a frequent ( not exceeding 4 working days / month ) requirement to travel to Pune. Type of Employer: The Company is a infrastructure management consulting service, where we offer systems and network services to clients. We have 27 people working full time and 8 people part-time in the UK. And a further 6 people in Australia. Agile and XP practises are a cornerstone of the management style ( in that there is really no management, the entire organisation tree is very flat ). Salary and Benefits: You get paid pretax's Rs.80,000/- a month. We expect you to work 38 hrs per week. We also only work half-days on Wednesdays. There maybe a requirement to work weekends, but only after suitable advance notice ( mostly to handle infrastructure outage that cant happen during the work week ). There is a 6 months trial run period, wherein you get to see what we do and if you want to work with us, and we get to see if we want you working with us. Interview process: 1. Send me a CV. 2. We call you for a quick chat on the phone. ( 20 min ). 3. Have a longer ( 3 hrs estimate ) sysadmin 'pair' session. 4. Fix a time and have a longer ( 1 hr ) developer 'pair' session. 5. People get hired. ( 1st week of June 2007 ) Regards, - - KB [1] - Agencies and head hunters are not welcome to reply to me, we dont and wont hire people through agencies. - -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219@icq _______________________________________________ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd(a)lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGHFUbXQZpNTcrCzMRAhxyAKCjCiJKzH1CGPqO2QuDbjV5FaKY/gCgnowq PUd/ZKdpxxZ5Epyo5zwQK+E= =Lf74 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Ilug-cal-discuss mailing list Ilug-cal-discuss(a)list.ilug-cal.org http://list.ilug-cal.org/mailman/listinfo/ilug-cal-discuss -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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debian etch dvd
by Satish Alwani 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Oh, I thought he was in TIFR, navy nagar. Damn. Oh well; courier.. Anwyays, happy downloading http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r0/i386/iso-dvd/ Remember, disc 2 and disc 3. I strongly recommend the use of Moser Baer DVD's while burning. im around 50% done already. Should have effectively tomorrow/day after.Provided no screw ups. Satish

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Auto-enable usbnet device on link startup
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

Hi, This is something I noticed while I was playing around with my Triband connection on USB. If I start (or reboot) my router after my computer has started, the network interface for the USB connection is detected but not enabled automatically. I have to manually up the interface. I guess this behaviour is expected under debian since network configuration (upping of interfaces) takes place only at startup through /etc/init.d/networking. Any network devices detected after startup will be configured but not enabled. Shouldn't default behaviour be to simply enable the interface if it is defined as auto in /etc/network/interfaces? -- Siddhesh Poyarekar http://siddhesh.tk

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] wireless mesh at hbcse
by Vickram Crishna 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

--- Nagarjuna wrote: > Hi all, particularly those who attended the workshop > on 31st March and > 1st April, and last saturday Rony, Jtd resumed the > work. > > Status: > > Last saturday we successfully managed to get the > mesh working. Actually > the mesh works out of the box like a charm. We only > used several of our > legacy skills and actually wasted lot of time. But > at the end every > moment spent was useful. We now know exactly what > to communicate to > others who wish to setup such a mesh (mess ;-) > successfully. > > The dhcp on wireless was not working as of Saturday, > but today afternoon > I tried based on a reply from the olsr-users mailing > list. Again it > worked out of the box. > > What I did: > > installed a package called 'freifunk-dnsmasq', > restarted it. Now we see > an additional parameter on the web interface called > OLSR-DHCP: This is > where we give the DHCP share of the mesh network > (not the lan network). > thats it. > > Now we have a working mesh in the campus. I will > write documentation > here: http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/WirelessMesh. > Please add to everything > I missed out. I will also upload few screen shots > so that new teams > setting it up will find it useful. > > Next step: > > Prepare a server (Rony contributed a server) and > dump useful resources > there for community use. Next time, gluggers can > walk into our campus > and sit in our lounge with a laptop and takeaway > what the server has. > If we get a list of goodies that the community needs > we will begin > archiving them. So send such a request to > glab(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in. we > will download them during the night time and leave > it one the server. > Great news. Please link up these how-to-do-it pages in the wsfii wiki also. The resources idea is brilliant and a great boon. Please see how soon we can make this work. Actually, I think from what I heard in Dharamsala, it should be possible for us to 'mesh' into the system remotely wherever we are located, provided we run OLSR locally and tune it to the same mesh. In that case, downloading the resources will be just a hop or or two away. Is this understanding correct? > > From: Mrugesh Karnik <mrugeshkarnik(a)gmail.com> > Secondly, without the dnsmasq package, can we get > the native udhcpd to work > with the OLSR interface? I think we can.. What's the > OLSR interface that > shows up with ifconfig? It is possible, I think, to > manually configure the > DHCP server to listen on the OLSR interface. > > The problem, I think, wasn't with the missing > package, but with the fact that > we had DHCP running on the WLAN interface instead of > the OLSR interface. The > native DHCP should work perfectly fine if I'm > right... unless dnsmasq has > some features I don't know about.. Is it possible to 'test-bed' this on a non-wireless, perhaps a standalone, device? Can we create ghost nodes somehow? Anyhow, it hardly matters, since the actual test-bed will be available at HBCSE for trials. Vickram ___________________________________________________________ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] bash proxy settings
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

Firstly, may I know what is your ultimate aim? :-) >> I tried the above but now when i try to ping www.google.com >> ping: unknown host www.google.com is what i get. Make sure there is a DNS server that is reachable from your machine. The best way would be to run BIND as a caching DNS server ('# service bind start' for Red Hat systems) on the machine running the proxy server, and configure your machine to use this as the primary DNS (use /etc/resolv.conf). To confirm that this actually works do: $ nslookup gnu.org on your own machine. [ If you can not have a DNS then try: $ ping 199.232.41.10 If this fails, then read on.] Next, make sure you have a gateway that actually forwards the packet from your subnet to the outside world. I have had experience using a 'gateway' which never forwarded anything, so make sure that the sysadmin is not lying and the gateway is actually forwarding the traffic. Checking this is a bit dicey, and depends if there is any firewall that is blocking traffic bound to specific ports and so on. Here are a few things you can try: 1. $ ping google.com 2. Try using an email client like Mutt, Thunderbird, KMail and see if you can send and receive mail or not. If the SMTP and/or POP3 traffic is blocked this would not work. 3. Disable the proxy in the Web browser (eg., Firefox), and try to visit any site. Again if port 80 or 443 traffic is being blocked or not forwarded, this would not work. 4. Try using Gaim. Do not set any proxy, and try to log into Yahoo!, Jabber, or IRC. 5. Try SSH, without using any HTTP proxy tunnelling tool (like Corkscrew). If you have not heard about tunnelling, then most likely you do not have a any such tool. Just do something like: $ ssh foo(a)external.server Knowing your ultimate aim would have been helpful. Regards, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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Protecting ubuntu against fork bombs
by Chetan S 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

Hi all, An old article caught my eye - http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/308 It talks about the way linux systems react to a fork bomb and surprisingly it is by freezing stiff. Sadly most distros seem to freeze as the limits are meant to maximize performance and not make it secure, even Ubuntu. Can someone shed light on what knobs/limits to tweak to deal with this "problem" ? regards, C

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Regarding comments on my site!!
by amitflu 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

Hi, These dayz I am making a site and want to make a business out of it(in php and apache). Would love to receive ideas on improving revenue and outlook of the site? My site is www.merasurat.com. The site is still in its initial construction dayz. Thanks and Regards, Amit Kumar Webmaster www.merasurat.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121

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Re: Debian Etch out, finally!
by Kartik Mistry 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

On 4/9/07, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > At last! > > http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20070408 > > Kumar Ah, Where is release party? ;) -- Regards, -------------------------------------------------------- KartiK MistrY | kartikmistry.org 0xD1028C8D | kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------

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Firefox 2.0 @ higher risk than IE 7 in Vista?
by Roshan 08 Apr '07

08 Apr '07

Hello All, http://zdnet.com.com/1606-2_2-6173372.html Found this link, while was browsing through my emails and replies to queries. The above video demonstrates that .ani files used in Vista for animated cursors can be exploited by a remote server (when a URL is visited). (exploited for remote access to files) For Internet Explorer 7 (default installation with Vista), a connection is established, but since Internet Explorer is in protected mode, it won't allow harfmful priveleges on system files. However, a higher concern is for Firefox users, because it uses the same windows component to process this request, but doesn't have a defined modes of access. (No modes like the ones in IE7). I *haven't* tried this, nor do I know how a TCP packet is used in the above connection, (and what sort of packet) for this attack. So, does Firefox need some enhancements of functioning independently of Windows components? What are the security features of Firefox that tend to prove Internet Explorer is pretty bad on it? -- S K Somaiya College of ASC - http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Debian Etch out, finally!
by Kumar Appaiah 08 Apr '07

08 Apr '07

At last! http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20070408 Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036

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Qmail
by mahesh pokhriyal 07 Apr '07

07 Apr '07

Hi friends, I want to install qmail , pls. can anybody tell me best site for qmail from i get help about qmail like how to install & configure Qmail setup by setup. OR anybody have the notes for Qmail pls. forward me. Thanks&Regards, Mahesh Pokhriyal --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.

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April Meet
by Harsh Busa 07 Apr '07

07 Apr '07

WHAT: Meet to get first in person glimpses of $100 Laptop of One Laptop Per Child Project. Networking overall. WHERE: 5 Gardens, Matunga, Mumbai ( Very close to VJTI College) ( decide which garden ! ) WHEN: 7th April 2007 @ 5PM If you are coming or certainly not coming please leave a note on : http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/April_Meet Encouraging others to fill in details like how to get there and stuff Regards Harsh -- __________________________ http://www.ebackend.com/blog

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RHEL AS on Intel 101 motherboard
by ajay solanki 06 Apr '07

06 Apr '07

Hi I am trying to install RHEL AS on Intel 101 motherboard. It is giving system kernel panic error. Any work arounds to install Linux ? I want to install it on the ST3160021A 160 GB HD. And the windows is installed on the ST3250823AS 250gb HD. If any one has installed Linux on 101 motherboard please help me with tips on doing the same. The configuraion of my comp is as follows. Operating System Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600) Processor 2.67 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4 16 kilobyte primary memory cache 1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache Main Circuit Board Board: Intel Corporation D101GGC AAD35788-308 Serial Number: BTGC62200YVL Bus Clock: 133 megahertz BIOS: Award BIOS for Intel GC11010N.86A.0311.2006.0420.1525 04/20/2006 Memory Modules 1984 Megabytes Installed Memory Slot 'A0' has 1024 MB Slot 'A1' has 1024 MB Drives 252.14 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity 125.66 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space SONY DVD RW DRU-810A [CD-ROM drive] 3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive] ST3160021A [Hard drive] (160.04 GB) -- drive 1, s/n 3JS292J5, rev 3.06, SMART Status: Healthy ST3250823AS [Hard drive] (250.06 GB) -- drive 0 ControllersStandard floppy disk controller ATI IDE Controller Primary IDE Channel [Controller] (3x) Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] (3x) Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller (2x DisplayATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series [Display adapter] ViewSonic E653 [Monitor] (13.8"vis, s/n ER01703495, April 2000) Bus AdaptersStandard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller (2x) MultimediaRealtek High Definition Audio Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device Other DevicesIntel USB Video Camera III Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard PS/2 Compatible Mouse USB Root Hub (3x) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html

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Windows Vista restricts GNU GCC apps to 32 MB
by Baishampayan Ghose 06 Apr '07

06 Apr '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Extremely odd --- http://www.trnicely.net/misc/vista.html BG - -- Baishampayan Ghose <b.ghose(a)ubuntu.com> Ubuntu -- Linux for Human Beings http://www.ubuntu.com/ 1024D/86361B74 BB2C E244 15AD 05C5 523A 90E7 4249 3494 8636 1B74 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGDe7MQkk0lIY2G3QRAkZKAKCLq7ufPykBie/jRR9SDQ8JKXUzpQCfddyd HkLRzStE0IhlUO6rkoTFUAM= =SCuz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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LUG meeting btwn 4/2 and 4/9?
by Russ Nelson 05 Apr '07

05 Apr '07

Hi. I'll be in Mumbai between 4/2 and 4/9. If you're having a meeting then, or want to arrange one, I can speak on various topics, like Open Source licensing, or Politics and Technology of the DNS. I can also bring my One Laptop Per Child XO machine. It's a way cool piece of hardware. I'm consulting for Rediff.com, so I'll be busy all day. I can probably get away by 7 (they work me hard), and the office is in Mahim West. I'm leaving in about 41 hours, so act promptly! -- --my blog is at http://blog.russnelson.com | You can do any damn thing Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | you want, as long as you 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-323-1241 | don't expect somebody else Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog | to pick up the pieces.

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OLSR @ HBCSE
by Mrugesh Karnik 04 Apr '07

04 Apr '07

Hello guys, I thought of a few issues on my way back home. Firstly, if you want to edit stuff like nvram settings or anything else not available in the GUI, its apparently done via the /etc/local.* files. The DHCP server configuration for example, was done in /etc/local.udhcpd.conf or something similar. Just something to keep in mind before hacking the init scripts. Secondly, I read this: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3626#page-51 The cron script that was edited to prevent the default gw route loss (/usr/sbin/cron.minutely original at /usr/sbin/cron.minutely.orig) could have been trying to achieve this: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3626#page-54 Please run a diff to make sure. But I don't think it should be kept the way it is in the original file either. Another thing. If it is necessary to find out exactly which node assigned the ip to the client, in case of multiple DHCP servers, maybe interface aliases can be used to define two different subnets. Run DHCP server on the aliases to lease ips in two different subnets. Also, apparently OLSR traffic happens on UDP port 698. Regards. -- ---------------------------------------- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net ----------------------------------------

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Apache error "child pid 10500 exit signal Segmentation fault"
by Shubham Saxena 04 Apr '07

04 Apr '07

Hi, I have RHEL 4, httpd 2.0.52-9.ent. I have setup local webserver. When I am opening any .html page, the error log is showing "Directory index forbidden by rule: /var/www/" and when I am trying to open .php pages, the error log is showing "child pid 10500 exit signal Segmentation fault" and the blank page is displayed. Shubham --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.

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DRM-free Music from EMI through Apple iTunes
by Praveen A 03 Apr '07

03 Apr '07

Hi, April 3, 2007: EMI, the world's third largest music company, said today that it was making its music available online without a key anti-piracy measure in a deal with Apple Inc. to boost sales of digital music. Read the full story http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/03/technology/03music.web.html Great news for the DRM elimination crew!! Lets continue educating the consumers about the evils of DRM. Join the DRM Elimination Crew today !! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign "If consumers even know there's a DRM, what it is, and how it works, we've already failed," Peter Lee, an executive at Disney http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=4342418 Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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LUG meet btwn 4/2 to 4/9?
by Easwar Hariharan 02 Apr '07

02 Apr '07

> > > On 31-Mar-07, at 8:43 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > > > How about Tuesday the 3th, 8PM? Is there any systemic reason why > > that's a bad idea? > > 5th evening - for the purely selfish reason that i can attend ;-) Not so selfish,my dear,matches with my schedule too. ;-) Regards, Easwar

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Re:[ILUG-BOM] Debian Etch DVD's request
by Karan R. 01 Apr '07

01 Apr '07

Hi roshan, Thanks for the help, I contacted Vipul and will be picking them up from iitb today. If anyone else needs stuff, i can get that and burn it. Karan --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.

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Wireless Workshop at HBCSE
by Rony 01 Apr '07

01 Apr '07

Hello All, I had a talk with Dr. Nagarjuna about the wireless gnu/linux download idea and it was decided that it should not be restricted to downloads of CD isos alone but it should be a wireless resource hub that will allow anyone to freely access the knowledge base with no internet restrictions. It should be installed in schools, colleges and other public places in the villages and towns all over India. It will act as a free knowledge and information hub. People can simply access whatever information they are looking for and for those who don't have laptops, they can simply walk into a knowledge cafe and save their required data on a recording media. As a technology demonstrator, at the HBCSE, the plan is to setup a local wireless mesh of multiple APs that will provide a wide access range and then install the server that will provide the data to be freely downloaded. The process will be documented so that it can be emulated in other schools and colleges. The day for setup will be a Saturday and timing will be after 5.30 pm, next week. So we need 2 to 3 people to help in setting it up. Once it is setup, we can have a session where everyone bring their laptops to do the downloads. Those who don't want to bring a laptop can bring blank cds that can be recorded during the session. Those who are interested in contributing their time for this workshop may contact me off-list. -- Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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