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Fw: [LIH][COMMERCIAL]Slackware CDs available
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

Just in case anyone is interested. I am only forwarding this to the list. Sharukh. ----- Forwarded message from Shridhar Daithankar <shridhar_daithankar(a)persistent.co.in> ----- From: Shridhar Daithankar <shridhar_daithankar(a)persistent.co.in> Subject: [LIH][COMMERCIAL]Slackware CDs available To: linux-india-help(a)lists.sourceforge.net X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Reply-To: linux-india-help(a)lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 19:02:05 +0530 Hi all, I am glad to announce the availability of Slackware9.0 and application CD, on behalf of PLUG(Pune Linux Users Group). This is a 2 CD set and priced at Rs 75/-. Please send us DD drawn in favour of "PUNE LINUX USERS GROUP" payable at Pune. You need to add the amount of shipping to the DD as well. We will be shipping the CDs by speed-post. The address is, PUNE LINUX USERS GROUP C/o Shridhar Daithankar, "Vidyashree", Plot. No. 117, Sec. No. 27, Pradhikaran, Nigdi, Pune-411044 Please note that we are not using official PLUG address as it is registered, due to some problems. The shipping charges are (as we obtained from Post.) Upto 200 KMs: 25/- Between 200-1000KMs: 30/- Between 1000-2000KMs: 50/- Please verify and calculate yourself, based on your location. We would like you to send us a signed form of PLUG membership, available from http://plug.org.in/membership-form.pdf This is to protect you from trademark issues as LUGs and individuals are allowed to use trademarks of linux companies like RedHat, by license agreements these companies operate under. We would be shipping CDs once or twice a week. So one should expect the delivery of the CDs within a week and half. If you are on a LUG mailing list, please forward this, so that the others will benefit as well. For any queries, please contact me offlist. Bye Shridhar -- I've already got a female to worry about. Her name is the Enterprise. -- Kirk, "The Corbomite Maneuver", stardate 1514.0 ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. _______________________________________________ linux-india-help mailing list linux-india-help(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-india-help ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri Homeopath and Linux Enthusiast. Mumbai, India. http://www.pavri.net/

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Meeting of 12th July.
by amish munshi 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

Greetings, Sorry for being out of touch with the group for so long, I am back and will be looking after the meetings if everyone agrees. I would like to know what is going to happen in the meeting on 13th July and would prefer if I could present a seminar on qt programming. Bye. ------------------------------------------------- Sify Mail - now with Anti-virus protection powered by Trend Micro, USA. Know more at http://mail.sify.com Sify Power mail- a Premium Service from Sify Mail! know more at http://mail.sify.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] kernel panic
by sameer shinde 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

>> > > In one sys. I installed linux but b'coz of some reasons I changed > the >HDD with other sys. Now when I tried to boot from that m/c Iget > the >message saying that kernel panic > >What do you mean when you say you changed the HDD to other system? I installed linux in one sys... but my keyboard & mouse started geting hanged as soon as my X server starts... so I decided to change the sys & I took out the HDD from one sys & put into another sys but now I started getting the message saying the kernel panic... >you put the HDD on which GNU/Linux was installed into a different system? >In that case, the most likely problem is that you are using a different IDE >port in this new system. Make sure you put it in the same port, ie primary >or secondary ... then it should boot correctly. > > > So how to overcome of the problem. I tried to boot from CD & to do > >some R&D but of no use... > >What R&D did you do? Did you boot into rescue mode on the CD and try >looking at your HDD partitions? I tried to boot from the rescue mode & to configure X but I was not able to do so. So I was trying to change the runlevel but I was not able to do so Then I desided to change the sys & then the above problem occurs... Thanks & Regards, SAMEER :) P.S. I wasn't knowing why the keyboard & mouse was hanging. in X _________________________________________________________________ Smile a little. Enjoy the summer with Joggers' Park! http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/joggerspark/index.asp

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Error Creating DB2 Instance on Redhat Linux 9
by Pankaj Sarda 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

Dear Linuxers, We have Red Hat 9 Personnel Edition. We install Custom-Everything onto the Desktops requiring DB2. Previously we installed DB2 Version 7.1 on Red Hat Linux 7.2. For us Installing Db2 same version onto Red Hat 9 is first time. It installs all the components. But the last before successful completion, it should creates a DB2 Instance. It is creating a problem there. I'm attaching db2setup.log file for your reference. Hoping of early reply, Thanks for help. Pankaj Sarda EDP - Breach Candy, Cell No: 98208 - 15827.

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tcpdump and iptables
by Subba Rao 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

I am using iptables on my system. It is very basic setup that denies all outside connections. When an outside connection is attempted, the packet is dropped and logged into the syslog. When I run tcpdump on the same interface, I do see a lot of ARP requests and bootps/bootpc (UDP) requests. Why are these attempts not logged into syslog? Is it because ARP requests are a lower level protocol? Another question is, when a legitimate packet is allowed and climbing the TCP/IP stack, who (iptables or tcpdump) gets to see the packet first? -- Subba Rao subba9(a)cablespeed.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old American Wild West saying: God created men but Colt made them equal. Today: Linus created Linux and Linux made IT companies equal.

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RE: The Zantex Computers 'resignation' letter...
by GoldenBreed 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

Try looking for Zantex Computers... Unfortunately, every reference brought up by Google was THAT resignation letter... It's funny, but fake. Another urban legend... Sean Australia

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Help me in uninstalling RPMS in red hat 8.0
by qa zx 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

Hi Friends, Being working with linux for some days. i upgraded my system (p!!! 500mhz , 810 motherboard , 256 mb ram ) with red hat 8.0, now i was doing some r&d, installing squid, appache etc i tryed uninstaling squid by tying #rpm -e squid*.* but it said squid not installed. Also when i run xmms, after hitting the play button it tells me to add files but the files dont get added in the play list i also cannot downgrade this xmms version. please help, And thanks for ur responces. Regards Ankur BE BEST, IN WHATEVER U DO !!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] changing init level
by sameer shinde 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

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21.6.03: Squatter Cities
by PUKAR ＠ The Paperie 22 Jun '03

22 Jun '03

Dear Friends: PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research) and The Bombay Paperie invite you to "Squatter Cities", a public lecture and discussion with journalist ROBERT NEUWIRTH, on examing the various perceptions, political conditions, and people's experiences slum and squatter settlements in different cities throughout the world. ROBERT NEUWIRTH is a freelance journalist and writer from New York. He is currently working on a book on the everyday life of slum and squatter settlements in different parts of the world. He has lived in slums in Nairobi, Rio de Janeiro, Istanbul, and he presently lives in Sanjay Gandhi Nagar in Goregaon East, in Mumbai. He has been a staff reporter on daily newspapers and weekly news magazines, and his work has published in the Village Voice, New York Times, New York Daily News, Wired Magazine, and The Nation. He is a contributing editor to City Limits (http://www.citylimits.org/). He has also taught inmates at Raiker's Island Jail as a Professor at City University of New York. His forthcoming book, for which he received a grant from the Macarthur Foundation, will be published in 2004 by Routledge. The discussion will be moderated by DEVIKA MAHADEVAN, who works with SPARC (Society for the Promotion of Area Resource Centres) on documentation activities. She studied at Brandeis University and the London School of Economics (LSE) and is from Mumbai. Date: SATURDAY 21 JUNE 2002 6.00 p.m. to 8.00 p.m. At: The BOMBAY PAPERIE Mezzanine Floor, Soonawalla Building 59, Bombay Samachar Marg Opposite the Stock Exchange Fort, Bombay 400001 _____ PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research) P.O. Box 5627, Dadar, Mumbai 400014, INDIA E-Mail <mailto:secretariat@pukar.org.in> Phone +91 (022) 2207 7779, +91 98200 45529, +91 98204 04010 Web Site http://www.pukar.org.in

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Project in Linux. URGENT! URGENT!!
by Raghu Pilaka 22 Jun '03

22 Jun '03

Hi, We are offering a short project in which you will develop web-based, online tests for the American Uniform CPA exam. Our budgets are limited ($7500). Project deliverables should be before July 25, 2003. Time is critical to the project. We want this in Linux. For more details about the computer based tests visit www.cpa-exam.org. We would like to produce an exact replica of CPA exam tutorial described on that website. If you are interested please contact us for SPECIFICATIONS DOCUMENT in Mumbai, India on Ph 22-24164823 and 91. E-Mail is also OK. URGENT! Raghu Pilaka Director & CEO

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join
by amey samant 22 Jun '03

22 Jun '03

hi there may i join the group ? i guess its freee ;) rgrds amey __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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New Arrival: Red Hat Linux 9 Bible
by Greenleaf Books 22 Jun '03

22 Jun '03

Dear Sir / Madam Red Hat Linux 9 Bible by Christopher Negus (Author) List Price: $49.99 Indian Reprint Price: Rs.499/- Edition: Paperback Publisher: John Wiley & Sons; Book and CD-ROM edition (May 2003) ISBN: 0764539388 Amazon Rating: 4 URL: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764539388/qid=1056113773/sr=… Book Description "The definitive work on Red Hat Linux. Chain it to your desk. You'll browse others, but you'll wear this one out." -Nicholas Petreley, Founding Editor of LinuxWorld If Red Hat Linux 9 can do it, you can do it too... Activate the power of Red Hat Linux 9, the most popular distribution of this practical, economical operating system, with the in-depth information in this comprehensive reference manual. If you're exploring Linux for the first time, the hands-on instructions for installing, configuring, and customizing the system will get you going with confidence. If you're a Red Hat veteran, Linux expert Christopher Negus gives you everything you need to administer the latest desktop, server, and networking enhancements, plus much more. Inside, you'll find complete coverage of Red Hat Linux 9 Explore GNOME and KDE desktop menus, panels, file managers, workspaces, and themes Configure a firewall to share your Internet connection and protect your LAN Run applications for Internet browsing, publishing, music, video, and gaming Construct your own public Internet server, complete with mail, DNS, FTP, and Web services Administer users, manage backups, and automate system tasks Create dial-up connections, wireless LANs, and virtual private networks (CIPE) Set up Windows (Samba), Mac (netatalk), or NetWare (mars-nwe) file and print sharing from Linux Use the Red Hat Network up2date facility to easily get software updates Special 3 CD-ROM version of Red Hat Linux 9, with 260 additional packages not included in the standard 2 CD Publisher's Edition Red Hat Linux 9 core includes: Linux kernel, GNU C compiler, GNOME desktop, Apache Web server, Samba Windows file/print sharing, CUPS print service, Sendmail mail server, and BIND DNS server Additional packages include: KDE desktop samba-swat vsftpd spamassassin sendmail-cf Legacy UNIX network services Tripwire sndconfig Book your orders now. Best Regards Manoj Shah Greenleaf Software Computer & General Management Book-Shop Tel.: (022) 28770081 / 28786269 URL: www.grenleaf.com Download the latest list from out site: www.grenleaf.com/booklist.zip

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NNTPCache - Access List
by Subba Rao 21 Jun '03

21 Jun '03

Hi, I am new to NNTPCache server. The compilation and installation went fine but I am having little trouble understanding the configuration. The following is some of the configuration from nntpcache.config file: ====================================================== # the default policy is no access. # the following line reverses this # # host patern group permissions filters userfiles # * * read,post # whatever is not denied is permitted; we are now a woodstock access file. # cooling! # but hendrix is dead, and the world has moved into a new reign # of conservatism. not so cool. * * deny # we are now a french legal system access file. users are guilty until # proven innocent (mmmmmmmmmmmmmm. guilty users). Okay, okay it's # the French legal system before la pr?somption d'innocence. # # credentials for internal nocem daemon <nocem@nntpcache> * read,quick # developers get full access to everything, regardless # of what subsequent rules say # polysynaptic.iq.org * read,post,quick # allow anyone from localhost to conncet to the web statistics port localhost <http> read,quick # full access for our local network localhost * read,post,filter spam.filter suburbia.net * read,post ====================================================== The first line says the default policy is "no access" and yet it opens it up to pretty much everything. The configuration says that the developers have full access no matter what the configuration file says. Is this the developers sick joke while documenting the configuration file or is it real? According to the configuration.access file, there are a bunch of sites and servers that can access the server. Although my iptables would limit that access, is there lot careless access to the new servers these days? -- Subba Rao subba9(a)cablespeed.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old American Wild West saying: God created men but Colt made them equal. Today: Linus created Linux and Linux made IT companies equal.

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changing init level
by sameer shinde 21 Jun '03

21 Jun '03

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kernel panic
by sameer shinde 21 Jun '03

21 Jun '03

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The full story of what one person who signed SCO's NDA
by Trevor Warren 20 Jun '03

20 Jun '03

The full story of what one person who signed SCO's NDA encountered on his trip to Lindon, Utah. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6956 Trevor -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor(a)clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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compact flash card - emb_linux
by ramesh thatha 20 Jun '03

20 Jun '03

i need compact flash card with IDE interface for embedded linux application......... does anyone knows where can i get this in india..... thanks in advance ===== Ramesh, student, IIT, Bombay __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Red Hat Linux 9 booting problem
by kaze＠sdf.lonestar.org 20 Jun '03

20 Jun '03

Dear Pankaj, My system developed exactly the same problem when I installed Redhat 9.0. The LoadModule fails for various modules. When I further analyzed the problem, I realized that the files containing these modules were getting erased. Then, it hit me: The filesystem was corrupted. This was further evident when I went into the directories containing the X Windows Files- doing a grep there elicited I/O errors. I tried replacing them, but it didn't work. And no, an fsck didn't help either. All this inspite of the fact that I was using a _very_ new hardisk. I dont think its the harddisk (it'd better not be- there are some vendor necks that might get badly wrung if it is so) I have been using Redhat Distros right frm 6.x. But none of them have given me such probs. How old is your hard-disk? Anyway, for the present, if you want to proceed with your trial, use Redhat 8.0 instead of 9.0, and see what happens. The Debian distros seem to be better, but since you guys might end up using Linux for commercial purposes (as opposed to hobby purposes,) I'd suggest you carry on with Redhat (though admittedly, there might be an issue with RH 9.0). In the meanwhile, I'll fish around and get in touch with other users on this and other GLUGs, and on IRC hangouts, and see if any folks have this kind of a prob. If yes, I'll package an error report and send it to out. Other Gluggers- any comments? Have I missed out something in my line of thinking? And yes- anybody with screwed up file systems on RH 9.0? Yours, KZ -----------In respo to-------------------------- Dear Sir, We are using Red Hat Linux version 9.0 personnel edition. We have installed Custom-Everything on one of our PC on trial. After every say two-three days, we have the following stated problem. Only Re-Installing Linux 9 finds the solution to us. It do not upgrade as well. : :

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Red Hat Linux 9 booting problem.
by Pankaj Sarda 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

Dear Sir, We are using Red Hat Linux version 9.0 personnel edition. We have installed Custom-Everything on one of our PC on trial. After every say two-three days, we have the following stated problem. Only Re-Installing Linux 9 finds the solution to us. It do not upgrade as well. Attaching Log file contents for your reference. As Log file mentions, I have checked for latest release. And we are using the latest. Early reply sought. Thanks, Pankaj Sarda Breach Candy Hospital, Mumbai. Cell No: 91-98208-15827 The Log File contains ----------- XFree86 Version 4.3.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.3.0-2) Release Date: 27 February 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6 Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.20-3bigmem i686 [ELF] Build Date: 27 February 2003 Build Host: porky.devel.redhat.com Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/ to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present OS Kernel: Linux version 2.4.20-8 (bhcompile(a)porky.devel.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.2.2 20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-5)) #1 Thu Mar 13 17:54:28 EST 2003 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Thu Jun 19 10:47:04 2003 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config" (==) ServerLayout "Default Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Videocard0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) XKB: model: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) XKB: layout: "us" (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (**) |-->Input Device "DevInputMice" (**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (++) using VT number 7 (II) Open APM successful (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.6 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.4 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.2 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.4 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x80000050, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7124 card 8086,7124 rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7125 card 8086,7125 rev 03 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,2418 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,2410 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,2411 card 8086,2411 rev 02 class 01,01,80 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:2: chip 8086,2412 card 8086,2412 rev 02 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,2413 card 8086,2413 rev 02 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,2415 card 414c,4730 rev 02 class 04,01,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:07:0: chip 10ec,8139 card 11f6,8139 rev 10 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0006 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) Bus 1 I/O range: [0] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX[B] [1] -1 0 0x0000c400 - 0x0000c4ff (0x100) IX[B] [2] -1 0 0x0000c800 - 0x0000c8ff (0x100) IX[B] [3] -1 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0 0xe4000000 - 0xe40fffff (0x100000) MX[B] (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set) (--) PCI:*(0:1:0) Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] rev 3, Mem @ 0xe0000000/26, 0xe4100000/19 (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Active PCI resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xe4000000 - 0xe40000ff (0x100) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0xe4100000 - 0xe417ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [2] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dc3f (0x40) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00005000 - 0x0000500f (0x10) IX[B] [7] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d01f (0x20) IX[B] [8] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f00f (0x10) IX[B] (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: [0] -1 0 0xe4000000 - 0xe40000ff (0x100) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0xe4100000 - 0xe417ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [2] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dc3f (0x40) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00005000 - 0x0000500f (0x10) IX[B] [7] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d01f (0x20) IX[B] [8] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f00f (0x10) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) All system resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0xe4000000 - 0xe40000ff (0x100) MX[B] [6] -1 0 0xe4100000 - 0xe417ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B) [7] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [9] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [10] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX[B] [11] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dc3f (0x40) IX[B] [12] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B] [13] -1 0 0x00005000 - 0x0000500f (0x10) IX[B] [14] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d01f (0x20) IX[B] [15] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f00f (0x10) IX[B] (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module dbe (II) UnloadModule: "dbe" (EE) Failed to load module "dbe" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module extmod (II) UnloadModule: "extmod" (EE) Failed to load module "extmod" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.a (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 0.0.2 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6 (II) LoadModule: "glx" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module glx (II) UnloadModule: "glx" (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "record" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module record (II) UnloadModule: "record" (EE) Failed to load module "record" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a (II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 2.0.2 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "type1" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a (II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.2 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Type1 (II) Loading font CID (II) LoadModule: "dri" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module dri (II) UnloadModule: "dri" (EE) Failed to load module "dri" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "i810" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module i810 (II) UnloadModule: "i810" (EE) Failed to load module "i810" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module mouse (II) UnloadModule: "mouse" (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) No drivers available. Fatal server error: no screens found When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log". Please report problems to xfree86(a)xfree86.org.

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Redhat 9.0 CDs Wanted in Andheri (W)
by Vishal A. Belsare 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

We need Redhat 9.0 discs & are located in Andheri (W), Lokhandwala / Seven Bungalows area. We would like to have the installation discs and preferably also the documentation discs. If there's anyone in the proximity of Andheri and could lend us their set, we could copy the discs in a day and return. Alternatively, if there is some person / firm selling the set at a reasonable cost, we are willing to purchase. Please contact offlist on the sender's address as well as : aman0478(a)yahoo.com Vishal. "Desperation is sometimes as powerful an inspirer as genius." ~ Benjamin Disraeli.

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[OT][ACM] Seminar: Text Indexing
by Philip S Tellis 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

ACM Seminar - Text Indexing Friday, June 20, 2003 - 6:30 p.m. Speaker: Jayprasad J. Hegde Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu Blah blah blah.... Abstract: Ever wondered how Search Engines are able to search for a word in their maddeningly-huge collection of documents? The answer is simple - they use Indices. Indices are surrogates for documents, which are optimised for such search operations. In this seminar, we'll look at issues which play a big role in the choice of not only the approach chosen, but also the method used in construction. The seminar will wind-up with a look at Google's method of constructing indices. About the Speaker: Jayprasad J. Hegde (or "JJ" as he's fondly known) is a Scientist at NCST. He is currently interested in Information Retrieval - and this has nothing to do with what cops do with thugs - and also Machine Translation. He also happens to be the Chair of the ACM Mumbai chapter.

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WinFS horn in Longhorn
by Amol Hatwar 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

I remember M$ touting a new file system called CIFS. I wonder what happened to that... This time they're playing the WinFS horn in their new OS codenamed Longhorn. WinFS is supposed to be M$'s new file system that will make searches faster by maintaining multiple indexes. Also, it also has a built-in RDBMS engine for tracking files... More here: http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20030617/index.html Ciao, ah

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[En Avance] PDF is vulnerable
by Amol Hatwar 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

Those who follow security will find the following amusing: An anonymous person has again posted vulnerability information gleaned from the Computer Emergency Response Center (CERT) approximately 10 days in advance of CERT's intended release of information to the public. The vulnerability involves Adobe PDF files; the files might be able to execute arbitrary commands on a system viewing a PDF file that contains malicious hyperlinks. In past months, the anonymous poster who goes by the alias "Hack4life," has somehow managed to obtain private information from CERT without the company's knowledge and subsequently disclosed that information to the public before vendors were ready to do so. CERT works with vendors who experience security problems to coordinate patch and information release. The anonymous person's antics undermine that process. More here: http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=39320 -------- CERT walks the middle ground and does a good job of it, but it is a little humorous to see an entity dedicated to security struggle to protect its own information. The anonymous being behind the leaks even tells the world when new information will be released, and yet his or her identity remains a mystery. The lesson here is that security is only as good as your ability to discern the lack of it. If you ever reach a point where you think you're secure, you are at your most vulnerable then. Ciao, ah

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Signing email
by Subba Rao 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

Hello, I have installed GNU Privacy Guard on my Slackware system. How do I sign with my key for all the email that I send using mutt? Thank you in advance for any help. Subba Rao subba9(a)cablespeed.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old American Wild West saying: God created men but Colt made them equal. Today: Linus created Linux and Linux made IT companies equal.

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WANTING INFORMATION ABOUT FAST FILE SYSTEM FOR LINUX
by Deepakala G 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

I'm a final engineering student.I am doing a project on "A FAST FILE SYSTEM FOR LINUX". Can you send me some research papers on the same topic?And some hints on how to go about the project? SMS using the Yahoo! Messenger;Download latest version.

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[OT][COMMERCIAL] FS:Motherboard & RAM
by q u a s i 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

Upgrading my PC. Selling : DFi Motherboard with Via KM133 chipset (For Durons and 100FSB Athlons) Onboard ProSavage 3D accelerator Onboard AC97 sound 128MB SDRAM 133MHz Yamaha DX-SG PCI Soundcard Asking for Rs.2900/- for the lot. contact me off list if interested.

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Finding the maximum color depth?
by Subba Rao 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

My system has ATI Radeon video card (AGP) and a very good monitor that supports 1600x1200 resolution. I have used the default XF96Config generated by xf86cfg. The color depths listed in the Xf86Config are 1,4,8,15,16,24. How do I find out what is the maximum depth supported on this card? Thank you in advance. -- Subba Rao subba9(a)cablespeed.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old American Wild West saying: God created men but Colt made them equal. Today: Linus created Linux and Linux made IT companies equal.

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[OT][COMMERCIAL] FS:Motherboard & RAM
by q u a s i 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

Upgrading my PC. Selling : DFi Motherboard with Via KM133 chipset (For Durons and 100FSB Athlons) Onboard ProSavage 3D accelerator Onboard AC97 sound 128MB SDRAM 133MHz Yamaha DX-SG PCI Soundcard Asking for Rs.2900/- for the lot. contact me off list if interested.

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[OT][COMMERCIAL] WANT P3 CPU
by Harsh R Busa 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

Hi Luggers, I need a P3 CPU under 1Ghz ... that will fit on 810 MBD with 100MhZ FSB Can one help ? Thanks Harsh ---------------------------------------------------------------- NETCORE SOLUTIONS *** Ph: +91 22 5662 8000 Fax: +91 22 5662 8134 MailServ: Email, IM, Proxy, Firewall, Anti-Virus, LDAP Fleximail: Mail Storage, Management and Relaying http://netcore.co.in Emergic Freedom: Linux-based Thin Client-Thick Server Computing http://www.emergic.com BlogStreet: Top Blogs, Neighborhoods, Search and Utilities http://www.blogstreet.com Rajesh Jain's Weblog on Technology: http://www.emergic.org ----------------------------------------------------------------

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Setting up Wallpaper in fvwm
by Subba Rao 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

Hello, I am slowly (very) getting to understand the fvwm2 configuration. My desktop is slowly looking the way I would like it to look like. The only thing missing is the wallpaper. I am using Gnome 2 on Slackware 9 with fvwm 2.4.16. I tried to set a wall paper using GThumb and that did not work. How do I setup a wallpaper when fvwm session begins? Thank you in advance. -- Subba Rao subba9(a)cablespeed.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old American Wild West saying: God created men but Colt made them equal. Today: Linus created Linux and Linux made IT companies equal.

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fvwm and Mozilla
by Subba Rao 18 Jun '03

18 Jun '03

Hello again, It is about fvwm again. When I open some applications (particularly Mozilla, Netscape, GThumb) my wallpaper and the application do change into some psychdelic backgrounds. Each time the mouse focus moves from the application to the desktop or vice versa, the colors get swapped. I do not have any problems apps such as Acrobat or OpenOffice etc. They are working fine. Has anyone seen this behaviour before? How do I fix these color changes in display? Thank you in advance. -- Subba Rao subba9(a)cablespeed.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Old American Wild West saying: God created men but Colt made them equal. Today: Linus created Linux and Linux made IT companies equal.

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[ILUG-BOM] Enterprise GNU/Linux implementation (a seminar at Mumbai)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 17 Jun '03

17 Jun '03

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unfortunately, the contact number announced earlier was wrong. The right phone number is 2826 1301. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ENTERPRISE GNU / LINUX IMPLEMENTATION Hotel ITC Grand Maratha Sheraton, Mumbai June 12 & 13, 2003 Day One Thursday, June 12, 2003 09:15: GNU/LINUX - GENESIS & ITS PRESENT RELEVANCE * Free Software Paradigm vs. Proprietary Software Paradigm * Fundamental Difference: o Is software a goods or a service? o Copy able and non-copy able resources * Ethics & Business Model for copy able resources * Creativity, Hacking & Publishing * Users� right to repair * What is the meaning of �free� in free software? * The genesis of Free Software: 1984 to today * The birth of GNU/Linux * Why is GNU/Linux Relevant? o Stability o Security o Virus Free o Open Standards o Economical o Social Relevance o Ethics & Economics o Education o Owned & Regulated by the community * Is it legal to sell free software? o Sell software with the source code * Free software in India Dr. Nagarjuna G Director (Free Software Foundation, India), Academic Member (HBCSE) 10:00: GOVERNMENT INITIATIVES Dr. S. Ramakrishna, Senior Director, Ministry of IT 11:00: OPEN SOURCE ENTERPRISE SOFTWARE ARCHITECTURE * Current trends and landscape of non-proprietary software * Open source, free software, GNU Public license - Explained * Industry trends in adoption of non-proprietary software in large * enterprises and organization - benefits and challenges * Role of open source / non-proprietary software, including Linux, in the * enterprise architecture planning in the near and medium-term future. * Defining Enterprise Architectures involving structured moves towards * increasing use of non-proprietary software. * Strategies for enterprise architecture planning and experiences in * adopting Linux and other non-proprietary software in complex settings * State of the industry in enterprise strength non-proprietary software * architectures Dr. Gautam Shroff, Head: Enterprise Architecture, TATA Consultancy Services 12:00: ENTERPRISE STRATEGIES AND CHALLENGES FOR LINUX MIGRATION 14.00: Strategies for Deploying Linux on Enterprise Servers Basant Kerketta, System Analyst The New India Assurance Co. Ltd. 14:45: LINUX IN AN ON-DEMAND ERA The emerging e-business on demand marketplace is resulting in heightened need for interoperability and standardization within the IT infrastructure that supports it. Linux shines out in this regard, because of it's unique ability to run across hardware platforms, right from embedded devices to the biggest mainframes in the business, as well as its ability to support a broad range of middleware, software and enterprise applications across the board. In this session the latest trends in Linux, as well as how it can used in various customer scenario's, to meet today's rigorous demands from cutting edge technology will be discussed Sandeep Menon, Linux Business Manager - ASEAN/SA, IBM India Ltd. 15:45 :Linux Usage in an Online Environment G.M. Shenoy, Sr. Vice President, NSE.IT 16.30 :Deploying GNU / Linux Abhijit Dasgupta, VP: IT, Times of India Group Day Two Friday, June 13, 2003 09.15: Deploying GNU / Linux in a Multi User / Multi Environment Dr. G. Sivakumar, Head: Computer Centre, IIT, Mumbai 10.00: Deploying Financial and HR applications on Linux Platform * The background under which we went in for the HR and Financial applications * What OS options were available to us * Why we chose Linux over others * What were the concerns * How we addressed these concerns * What was our experience with Linux implementation (what were the issues that we faced and how we resoved them) Neeraj Bhai, CTO, IDBI Bank 11.00 State of the Dolphin Gerardo Narvaja , MySQL AB 12:00: COST EFFECTIVE SUPER COMPUTING FOR THE ENTERPRISE An alternative to traditional supercomputing is a method of linking multiple computers together to form a unified and very powerful system.. Beowulf clusters are specialized supercomputers that are gaining popularity in the technical and enterprise computing market because of their high performance at a relatively low cost * Evolution of Supercomputing * Details of Beowulf Clustering and how to select the right cluster for your application * Designing a linux cluster * Network Interconnects * Storage management * Cluster Management and Monitoring * Scalabiltiy , Reliability and Availability. * Area of Applications * Case studies on price performance gain with clusters Narayanan Subramaniam, Technical Head Benz Infotech Consultancy Services 14:00: LEGAL IMPLICATIONS OF NON-PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE * The Alternative Intellectual Property of OSS * The Legal innovation involved in Open Source Software * Legal Validity of the GPL: Is the GPL legally enforceable? * Understanding the differences between the various licensing options available within the Open Souce Movement - the Free Software v. Open Source Debate * Survey of cases / judicial developments in the area Lawrance Liang, Legal Researcher, ALF 14.45 Deploying GNU/LINUX in eGovernance N. C. Nagarjuna Reddy Officer on Special Duty IG Registration & Stamps, Govt. Of A. P. 16:00: LINUX ON THE DESKTOP Breach Candy hospital runs a totally integrated hospital information system that runs on a Linux platform for both backend and front-end operations. Mr. Desai would discuss the implementation strategies and how this has benefited the hospital. Dilip Desai, Head IT, Breach Candy Hospital 16:20 GNU / Linux Deployment for the Enterprise - Indian Scenario * Is GNU / Linux Enterprise Ready ? * Economic viability of Linux implementation for the Enterprise. * Factors to be considered before deploying Linux in organizations. * Infrastructure Requirement. * Migration Challenges - Windows to Linux * Legal aspects of GNU / Linux Service providers. * Long term and short-term financial viability. * Evaluating economic viability of desktop implementation of GNU / Linux MODERATOR: Prakash Advani, Sr. VP, Netcore Solutions Pvt. Ltd. * Dilip Desai, Head: IT, Breach Candy Hospital * Shashank Sathe, CIO, Repro India Co-sponsors: Benz Infotech Consultancy Services Official Publications: Linux For You More information, contact: HASHIM POONAWALA T: +91-22-2826 1301 F: +91-22-2828 1305 or 2826 1305 E: hashim(a)marcusevansin.com abid(a)marcusevansin.com -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick Noronha (FN) | http://www.fredericknoronha.net Freelance Journalist | http://www.bytesforall.org http://goalinks.pitas.com | http://joingoanet.shorturl.com http://linuxinindia.pitas.com | http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks ------------------------------------------------------------------------- T: 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 M: 0 9822 122436 -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[ILUG-BOM] Please send your newsletters on chintamani1999@indiatimes.com
by Mandar Karmarkar 16 Jun '03

16 Jun '03

From, Mandar M. Karmarkar 10 Satsang Soc., Prarthana Samaj Rd., Vile Parle (East), Mumbai 400057. Tel: 2617 10 71 To, Linux Users Group, Dear Sir/Madam, I want to join Linux group. Please send all your informations on following e mail address: chintamani1999(a)indiatimes.com Because yahoo account is too small to contain attachments etc. I am providing data entry and office related services to various professionals. I am using MS office and want to learn linux but is it possible to load linux on my computer and at the same time use MS office ? Because all my work is done in word & excel. I want to learn the Linux for day to day work and want to use Linux practically. Waiting for your feedback. Thanking You, Yours Faithfully, Mandar Karmarkar Mandar Catch all the cricket action. Download Yahoo! Score tracker

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Changing over ... on the desktop
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 16 Jun '03

16 Jun '03

From: Vinayakam Murugan <vinayak(a)theargoncompany.com> The core business of our company is Linux based network management and email solutions for the SME market. (Note the subtle ad for our company ;-) ) But even within our company, apart from the techies, there is resistance to shift to the Linux desktop. We have now forcibly convinced ;-) our graphic designer to move. She is now using GIMP and getting used to it. This is definitely the way to go. Linux on desktops will go a long way in creating awareness and removing mindsets like OS=Windows Wordprocessor=MSWord -- Warm Regards ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vinayakam Murugan Manager - Software Solutions The Argon Company Pvt. Ltd. Dhanraj Mahal , "G" Block, Hi Vinayakam, I'm a Goa-based freelance journalist. It took me over one year to switch over, even after getting personally convinced that Free Software is a great concept. But once I switched over, I use GNU/Linux for 95% of my work. (The other 5% is spent in cybercafes, over which I wish I had more control/choice). It works fine for me. Stability, virus-free (except one work once ... for sticking to RedHat 6.2 long long after it was recommended, simple and clean tools and hardly any use of 'pirated' tools). But it takes time to get over the uncertainity and fear. FN -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick Noronha (FN) | http://www.fredericknoronha.net Freelance Journalist | http://www.bytesforall.org http://goalinks.pitas.com | http://joingoanet.shorturl.com http://linuxinindia.pitas.com | http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks ------------------------------------------------------------------------- T: 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 M: 0 9822 122436 -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[ILUG-BOM] initialisation scripts.. rc.sysvinit, rc0.d,rc1.d,rc2.d,..rc6.d
by ramesh thatha 16 Jun '03

16 Jun '03

is there any documents available which will explain properly about these runlevel scripts and initiallization scripts... Actually i am trying to create my custom linux operating system... So i need to learn about these initialisation scripts,,,,, 1. explanation about these scripts 2. customisation to suite our system... basically i want to get command over these scripts.. writing my own.......... thanks in advance Ramesh, student, IIT, Bombay --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

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GLUG site updated
by Kapil Karekar 16 Jun '03

16 Jun '03

hi gluggers ! The GLUG site has been updated to reflect the details of the June meet. I may have missed out a few points ... please point it out on the list so that I can rectify it. [ I like it when I get scolded publicly :)) ] For the uninitiated, the GLUG Mumbai site is at: http://www.ilug-bom.org.in Have fun :) Kapil Karekar ---- Kapil's blog coming soon at: http://www.libretech.com

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Kernel Compilation Blues
by Goldwyn Rodrigues 15 Jun '03

15 Jun '03

Hi, I am trying to install the new kernel 2.5.70, from kernel.org I compiled the kernel and the modules and installed it using make install. I installed the modules too using make modules_install. However after making the necessary changes to lilo and rebooting, I could not boot into the new kernel. The comp says "Uncompressing Linux..... ok" and hangs. No messages further. no error message... nothing. I tried it with initrd (and necessary changes to lilo.conf) using mkinitrd but even that does not work. Where am I going wrong? What modules will be required in the initrd files? I used only ext2 and ext3. -- Goldwyn :o) Windows 95 never has bugs. It just develops random features.

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postgreSQL+JDBC+JSP/Servlets.
by Raju Banavalikar 15 Jun '03

15 Jun '03

Hi All, I would like someone of you to contact me who has successfully implemented a project on postgreSQL+JDBC+JSP/Servlets. I would also like someone who has good knowledge of connecting postgreSQL to Java. Please get in touch with me. Warm regards, cOdEdRiLLeR wRoX.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Need Debian "Sid"
by linuxdev 15 Jun '03

15 Jun '03

I do have the debian-sid cds someone's asking for. However a word of warning ... Its not supposed to be a distro with full-fledged installer and all that. Rather consider it as "upgrade" cds. with tons of software. So you might need debian woody or knoppix handy before you go for debian-sid. I have 11 debian cds with the soft inside dated month of may. C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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DOC-SHOP Review TODAY
by PUKAR Monsoon 15 Jun '03

15 Jun '03

Dear Friends: PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research) invites you to the DOC-SHOP Review -- a series of student presentations followed by a two-hour panel discussion on archiving and documentation with ASHISH RAJADHYAKSHA, C.S. LAKSHMI and MADHUSHREE DATTA. This Review is the concluding event in the PUKAR Monsoon DOC-SHOP, a five-day workshop for undergraduate students held from 19-23 May 2003 at PUKAR. For more information about the DOC-SHOP, see http://www.pukar.org.in/doc-shop/index.html. The panel discussion will feature the following speakers: ASHISH RAJADHYAKSHA is Senior Fellow of the Centre for the Study of Culture & Society (CSCS), Bangalore (http://www.cscsban.org), and was the editor of the Encyclopaedia of Indian Cinema (1999). He is an active member of the editorial collective of the Journal of Arts and Ideas, and is a regular contributor to Framework and to Sight & Sound. He has written the book Ritwik Ghatak: A Return to the Epic (1983), was Editor, The Sad and Glad of Kishore Kumar (Research Centre for Cinema Studies, 1988); was Editor, with Amrit Gangar, of Ghatak : Arguments/Stories (Screen Unit/Research Centre for Cinema Studies, 1987). He is currently coordinating the CSCS Media Archive (http://www.cscsban.org/html/media_archive.htm). He was co-curator, with Geeta Kapur, of the exhibition Bombay/Mumbai 1992-2001, part of the exhibition Century City: Art and Culture in the Modern Metropolis, at the Tate Modern, London, 2001. C.S. LAKSHMI is the Founding Trustee and Director of SPARROW (Sound and Picture Archives for Research on Women), Mumbai (http://www.sparrrowonline.org). She writes fiction in Tamil under the pseudonym Ambai, and her translated stories have been published in a collection called A Purple Sea (Manas, 1997). She has been a researcher in women's studies for thirty years, and has authored The Singer and the Song: Conversations with Women Musicians (Kali for Women, 2000), the first in a three-volume oral history series called Seven Seas and Seven Mountains, with detailed interviews with fifty notable women in the arts in India. She is also the author of The Face Behind the Mask: Women in Tamil Literature (Stosius/Advent Books, 1984). MADHUSHREE DATTA has been making non-fiction and documentary films since 1993. Her first film was "I Live in Behrampada" (1993), on the Bombay riots in 1992-1993. She has since made eight films on diverse themes such as performance and female impersonation in "Sundari: An Actor Prepares", on visual cultures in "Made in India", on young girls growing up in "Memories of Fear", on the 12th century bhakti poet Mahadevi Akka in "Scribbles on Akka", and on sexuality and girl trafficking in "Ailo Bailo Sailo". She has written extensively on the politics of facts, and is presently working on a multi-part film on the mega-metropolis of Mumbai. She is a Founder Member and is the Executive Director of Majlis, Mumbai, a centre for multicultural initiatives. Date: TUESDAY 27 MAY 2003 Time: 5.00 P.M. to 7.00 P.M. Presentations from the PUKAR Monsoon DOC-SHOP 7.00 P.M. to 9.00 P.M. Panel Discussion on Archiving and Documentation At: PUKAR c/o Aragon Services 4th Floor, Kitab Mahal Dr Dadabhai Naoroji Road Mumbai 400001 Kitab Mahal is next to New Excelsior Cinema, and is near VT Station. Entrance to Kitab Mahal is from the New Book Company on Dadabhai Naoroji Road. _____ PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research) P.O. Box 5627, Dadar, Mumbai 400014, INDIA E-Mail <mailto:secretariat@pukar.org.in> Phone +91 (022) 2207 7779, +91 98200 45529, +91 98204 04010 Web Site http://www.pukar.org.in

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console browser
by q u a s i 15 Jun '03

15 Jun '03

Folks! Does anyone know of a HTML browser for the console with inline image support that is stabler than links with svgalib? I cannot use framebuffer. NeoMagic chipset does not support it I think. If we have this than the last piece is here. We wont need to use X unless specifically required. q

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[COMMERCIAL][JOBS]
by Sanjeev Tripurari 14 Jun '03

14 Jun '03

Hi, We are looking for people with 2 years of experience in PHP, Perl, Shell Programming, C (added advantage) on Linux platform. Pl forward your resume to info(a)cnpl.co.in, with the Subject: CGI-Programmer. Regards Sanjeev Tripurari Cybertech Networks Pvt Ltd 14/A/44, Vrindavan Society, Thane(W) - 400601 MS

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Problem regarding Ejection of KNOPPIX Cd
by harmeek singh jhutty 14 Jun '03

14 Jun '03

>Then again the question of ejecting the knx cd while its running. >No problems with that too as long as you don't try to start a >new software after ejecting the cd. The kernel and quite a >considerable amount is loaded into ram so it doesn't need the cd >for that. Keep whatever software you want running and then eject. >And to eject, first unmount the cd via root console then manually >eject ! :D i tried to do tht.i logged on as root(via Ctrl+Alt+F2) and unmounted the cd via root console but failed to eject it. moreover can anybody suggest me how to pass more then one arguments at the boot prompt of Knoppix3.2 cd.i want to pass "knoppix xvrefresh=60" and "single user mode command i.e knoppix1" simultaneously. plz help me out.thanks in advance. micky.

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[ILUG-BOM] Answers to our group(north mumbai group) queries by Javed Tapia, Director, RedHat-India - kunalbharati
by kunal bharati 14 Jun '03

14 Jun '03

First of all if any body is interested in GNU/Linux eduation for schools mail me. I have talked in Redhat about this , they have given positive response. Our group (north mumbai) had send some queries to redhat director, Mr.Javed Tapia, he has answered to the following questions : 1) What initiatives has Red Hat taken for Linux in India ? Ans: Red Hat has been at the forefront of evangelising the use of Open source & Linux in India.It has been working closely with the Government and the corporate sector towards educating them on the benefits of adopting the Linux as their platformvfor deploying Corporate applications. Simultaneosuly, keeping the home user in mind, it also launched extremely user friendly Linux Distributions of the likes of Red Hat Linux 8.0 last year and Red Hat Linux 9 this month. Corporates world over can now use Open Source in the form of Linux in all areas of Enterprise computing. Red Hat has launched a family of products for the enterprise called "Red Hat Enterprise Linux". For any technology to succeed, an ecosystem requires to be created to nuture the technology and help it mature. Red Hat has been working extremely hard in ensuring this..by getting its Enterprise Products certifed by OEMs, and have ISV's develop their range of applications on Red Hat Linux. By training people and helping them obtain Red Hat Certficiation, partnering with professional technology and IT training companies all across India and helping Governments & schools go open source Red Hat has helped in its own small ways take Linux to the Enterprise. 2) Is RedHat using Indian techie skills sufficiently? How? Ans: Red Hat's policy is to grow from with skill sets internally and over time grow in numbers with growth in business oppurtunities. Red Hat does value its employees both Technical and Non-Technical. The average techie at Red Hat is about 25 and comes to Red Hat from various locations across the country. Each employee be it Technical-Non Technical brings in his/her area of specialisation towards helping take the company to greater heights. Their contributions are towards Red Hat's Engineering, Product Development and Professional Consultancy business aspects. Is there any any Linux-related event on the cards from RedHat ? Ans: YEs. those on the anvil we will announce shortly. 4) Is RedHat aware that computing power is still an issue in India (i.e. many of us still use fairly old systems). If so, what attempts are being made to ensure such users are not hit by the heavy demands of recent distros? Ans:At Red Hat we always Endeavor towards delivering the best Open source has to offer. Towards achieving this objective, Red Hat is forced to keep up with the best and latest developments on the Desktop Front. Inspite of the huge processing demands of latest Open Source applications Red Hat makes sure that it has all the options available via its Installer to allow for suitable customisation for any low end x86 box. So you see, after all it just boils down to CHOICE which the user can exercise. 5) Why is RedHat going the bloatware way? Ans: Great question to ask. Bloatware in essence depends on ones point of view. Bloatware applications generally are those which get labelled for hogging huge Disk Space and Memory Resources. As mentioned previously, towards delivering the best and latest in terms of Open Source innovations to the consumer on the desktop; applications and their feature sets galore adding up to the size of the whole distribution. Though over years the final size of the Red Hat consumer Operating Systems have increased dramatically over time, one shouldn't fail to notice the evolution of Linux on the Desktop purely due to the fact the Operating Systems like Red Hat have endeavored towards delivering the Latest and the Best to the customer. Inspite of it all Red Hat is about providing customer the choice towards making an appropriate stripped down selection of packages for his/her machine. 6) What exactly was RedHat's contribution to the Goa Schools Computers Project? Ans: Red Hat provided the OS for all the machines, helped in the installation process and trained about 120 teachers on Linux essentials and use of office tools. 7) How have state governments here reacted to open source softwares ? Ans: The Governments have shown considerable interest to open source and Linux in particular. Recently it was heartening to hear the President of India too give a call to all Indians to go the open source way. In fact, we are currently working with MP Treasuries, Maharashtra Land Records among other projects.There a whole lot of project implementations by DIT for Mantralaya which run on Red Hat Linux. We also recently signed an MOU with NICSI ( the procurement arm of Governments) to develop a mechaniim towards delivering quantifiable services. 8) What has been the response of users to Linux as a business tool ? Ans: Extremely good. Lots of organisations are using open source not only as high cost saving tools but also for better performance. Business users today have a choice and dont need to get locked into one vendor. 9) Why Linux took such a long time to capture market ? Ans: Linux initially did not have any organisation to take responsibily for the software. This was critical for business users. Red Hat helped solved that problem. Also taking on a well entrenched player in any market takes time. An ecosystem also needs to be created which doesnt happen overnight. eg: if u send a spreadsheet created in open office, that receiver needs to be able to read and react. This was not possible till a while back and in some cases even now because of blocking strategies of market leaders. 10) Why should anybody continue using proprietary software? Ans: You tell me! 11) What is your endeavour to spread Free Software/Open Source in schools? Ans: A considerable number of schools have begun to use Linux, both as a network server and internet gateway and router and as a desktop operating system. With the recent enormous growth of interest in Linux this usage is certain to accelerate. Red Hat offers a radical alternative to the way schools have traditionally used computers: an alternative which is attractive in terms of cost, stability, control and security. 12) How many people do you employ in India? Ans: About 30 people. 13) Any plans to make your product more affordable by Indian standards? Ans: Our products are affordable by Indian standards and we will constantly endeavour to offer it at the best possible price. 14) What steps are you taking to bring Linux to home desktops where pirated Windows OS is flourishing? Ans: We are launching desktop OS versions every six months with better applications. We will also launch Red Hat in Hindi down the line. 15) How do you think Microsoft is taking Linux ? Ans: Better answered by them, dont you think?. Linux and its army of developers is something even a company of the likes of Microsoft can hire. I know you understand better than me....that its not always about money.....!!!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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putting linux on a laptop
by Gautam Bastian 14 Jun '03

14 Jun '03

dear linuxers, i have a rather antiquated Twinhead Slimnote 712cv laptop with the following config Intel Pentium 120 Mhz 16Mb RAM 1.04Gb HDD Touchpad pointing device 2PCMCIA slots i want to install debian on this system and use it for some basic wordprocessing, mail and stuff like that.. i would also like to use X, maybe with a light window manager like fvwm or flvwm. i've read a document at http://www.angieandthor.de/thor/boxes/endeavour.htm. i want to know if the SLIP based install is feasable using a computer running winXP and apache. i really would like to get this thing working soon so if anybody out there has any ideas about how i can do this any more easily or faster please do tell. gautam. By the time I'd grown up, I naturally supposed that I'd be grown up. -- Eve Babitz

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query reg Free-BSD
by kiwi 14 Jun '03

14 Jun '03

hii linuxers, i have heard of this beautiful os called Free BSD 5.....can anybody plz take the pain to tell me that where the cd,s for this software is available in town side. thanking u in anticipation cooldeep ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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Re: hardware problems
by Spencer Rasmussen 13 Jun '03

13 Jun '03

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PPPOE
by Vidyasagar 13 Jun '03

13 Jun '03

my cable internet guy uses the PPPOE protocol, how do i get that protocol in linux. i use Red Hat Linux 8.0(Psyche)

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Linux 9.0 .....by Hitesh
by Rajiv S Banerji 13 Jun '03

13 Jun '03

>From: hitesh gaa<hitesh226(a)yahoo.co.in> >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] problem plz help >I had linux 9.0 installed and had partioned it automatically during >installation. by schnitt........ >From: Manish Jethani <manish.j(a)gmx.net> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] problem plz help > >Most of us are from 2003 A.D., when linux was only in 2.x >(2.4/2.5 as of this writing). You seem to have come down from a I agree that a newbie would be better off unanswered than this way! And any idiot can tell that Hitesh is talking about RedHat Linux 9.0. [2.4.20-8] What else can it, and what he is, be and talking about!! Since kernel version is out of the question and none of the other distros have reach that number - at least not exactly. And c-a-t is cat and b-a-l-l is ball. Now I can win the NYU spelling bee. No-Thanks to the smart alec. Brgds Radschiw

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problem plz help
by hitesh gaa 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

I had linux 9.0 installed and had partioned it automatically during installation. Now due to norton antivirus my mbr was corrupted and i thought by working in rescue mode and doing a 'dd' copy everything would work fine however during booting it directly went to windows without even prompting. By the fdisk of windows i came to know, that i still had the linux partitons but they were showing up as extended dos partitons. By some R&D i came to know that windows had enabled a large disk support by which my mbr was extended to 604 bytes and i think this is where the problem lied. However in rescue mode i came to know that actually my mbr was still 512 bytes. I think this is a bug in the linux rescue. Moreover the rescue mode told me that my windows was /dev/hda1 whereas actually windows fdisk told me it was /dev/hda2. Now neither rescue mode nor installation worked. So i deleted the extended partition and i thought reinstalling 9.0 would solve the problem. But during installation anaconda terminates abrubtly and flashes a error 'received signal 11' i tried to find out what this signal 11 is but to no use. Plz help i need to reinstall 9.0 as fast as possible. thank you Catch all the cricket action. Download Yahoo! Score tracker

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] problem plz help
by Nikhil Karkera 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 Manish Jethani wrote : >hitesh gaa wrote: > > > I had linux 9.0 installed and had partioned it automatically during > > installation. > >Most of us are from 2003 A.D., when linux was only in 2.x >(2.4/2.5 as of this writing). You seem to have come down from a >distant future. Many of us in 2003 believe that, by the time >linux is 9.0, Windows will be extinct. Your post seems to >suggest otherwise. Can you elaborate on the situation? What >year is this? Are you able to distinguish between linux-powered >humanoids and real humans? Are you human? > >time-machine running linux!). Also, these "people" seem to >exhibit a slightly lower IQ--either humans have gone dumb, or This is getting really old. Many newbies, trying GNU/Linux for the first time probably don't know the difference between a kernel version number and distro version number. The probably are even clear on the funda of a distro. Given that one of the objectives of the list is to encourage newbies to use GNU/Linux, such a reply doesn't help. This has happened so many times, I think one should understand by now that it is a common misunderstanding people have about version numbers. Hitesh, please mention what distribution of GNU/Linux you are using i.e. Red Hat, Debian etc. Also it's a good practice to use a meaningful subject line (on this list it's necessary). Regards, Nikhil.

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[ILUG-BOM] [Info-Commercial] Invitation to visit the InfoTech WorldExpo exhibition
by MagNet WebPublishing Pvt. Ltd. 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Hi All, We would like to invite you to our stall at the InfoTech WorldExpo organized at NSE Complex, Goregaon (E) during 13-15 June. We are launching "Radix Clever Client Solution Platform" at this expo. There will also be presentations about solutions and happening technologies in GNU/Linux. It will be great if you can make up for this event! Here are the details: Radix Solution Platform: --------------------- MagNet welcomes you to witness the launch of Radix Solution Platform. Explore server based computing on Linux. Discover how Radix can cut down IT software and hardware costs tremendously. Radix allows you to work remotely on Linux, Windows and Citrix and offers centralized management. Enterprise Solutions: --------------------- Learn what Linux has on offer for your company in areas like: - Messaging & Groupware - Desktop Productivity - Security - Knowledge Management - Document Management - Education / Virtual Learning - Web Development Linux Tech Showcase: -------------------- See the hot technologies and solutions: - Clever computing with Radix - Opie - Linux on Pocket PC - Kalculate - Linux Accounting Software - IndLinux - Knoppix Live Linux - Multimedia with mPlayer - Horde Groupware - Learning Management with Moodle Presentation Plan: ------------------ 13th June 4 to 4.45PM Linux on the Desktop 5 to 5.45PM Radix Clever Client Solution Platform 14th June 10 to 10.45AM Economies of GNU/Linux (by Dinesh Shah, Shah Micro Solutions) 4 to 4.45PM GNU/Linux for the Indian Enterprise 5 to 5.45PM Linux in Indian Languages (by Venkatesh Hariharan, IndLinux) 15th June 4 to 4.45PM GNU/Linux for the Indian Enterprise 5 to 5.45PM GNU/Linux and Education in India (by Prof. Jitendra Shah, VJTI) MagNet is glad to host Linux For You, IndLinux, Kalculate and ILUG-BOM / FSF India at the booth. You can catch up with Venky of IndLinux on Saturday. Would like to invite volunteers from the GLUB for Sunday! Special Offer: --------------- Get Knoppix Bootable Linux CD, IndLinux Indian Linux, Kalculate Pro accounting software (60 days trial) and a copy of Linux For You magazine. For Rs. 50 ONLY! (offer till stocks last, can change according to availability ;) I look forward to see you there! Regards, Nirav. ====================================================== | tangible, customized solutions for your e-business | | http://www.magnet-i.com/ | ======================================================

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KDE indianization
by Nilesh Bansal 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

We are trying to indianize KDE. We have translatted po file (of kedit) but after making mo file and putting it in appropriate dir (/opt/kde3/share/locale/hi/LC_MESSAGES/kedit.mo ) and exporting lang variable when we started kedi we saw no change. When we started kedit again it showed square boxes for all entries(both translated and untranslates). When i copied german mo file in hindi dir then also it showed boxes. While when LANG=de it works fine in german. Anybody having any idea why so?? Most interesting is that after placing mo file and starting kedit first time we saw no change but second time onwards(even after deleting hindi mo file) when LANG=hi it shows only boxes. Anybody having any ides. Nilesh Bansal.

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[ILUG-BOM] hi could someone pls help me configure the internet connection!
by Rohan Niranjan Ullal 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Hello Every1, I am having Red Hat 9.0 and have an internet connection from a cable internet provider. Actually its an ethernet and I have been given a static IP/netmask : 172.16.56.202/255.255.255.252 . I have also been given a gateway : 172.16.1.1 and a DNS server IP : 172.16.1.1 . I have configures device eth0 to have static IP address and default gateway is also configured. THe internet connection I ude first requires me to log on with a username and password by first going on the 172.16.1.1 website. I am able to browse the ethernet. Able to log on see my usage. But when I have to go somewhere on to the internet it gives me a message connection refused when attempting to connect to... when i ping those websites it says network unreachable. I tried to install squid but squid wont start it gives an error about some unknown name???? pls help me as thats the only reason preventing me to totally switch over to GNU/Linux from other operating systems. Thank u for ur time Rohan :)

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Redhat,,,Knoppix,,,,
by junaid 12 Jun '03

12 Jun '03

Hi guys I'm very new to linux so help. I'm not able to instll redhat 7.2 on my machine .its not probing monitor and video drive itself...so i selected the wright one in the list ....the ones which mandrake recognises and works fine.....still redhat after the whole process of installation on sending termination signals shows monitor and video drive not found ..and doesn't run on rebooting.. My machine is Amd....Asus (MB)...Nvidea (Chip set) ...Video d. Ge Force 2 I tried ELX which i got in linuxforu , it also gives the same problem. Knoppix 3.2 is giving a bit different probs....as soon as it starts booting from cd , it automaticaly switches on the power management and shows me 'Operating frequency out of range ' and switches off the monitor in 20secs. My monitor is LG Studioworks 500G. Catch all the cricket action. Download Yahoo! Score tracker

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] HELP ON lfy KINOPPIX Cd WITH ROOT PASSWORD
by linuxdev 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

For the root passwd problem, here's my take: its renewed and encrypted each time u boot into knoppix. so you can't find it out. (anyone? :D) However they provide the mighty root console via the start>knoppix sub menu of kde. Oh and it gives direct root access. After all you are the only one. its the cleanest and official option. However mounting hdd partitions is a matter of click since knx identifies and lists them on desktop by default. No need be root for that. Then again the question of ejecting the knx cd while its running. No problems with that too as long as you don't try to start a new software after ejecting the cd. The kernel and quite a considerable amount is loaded into ram so it doesn't need the cd for that. Keep whatever software you want running and then eject. And to eject, first unmount the cd via root console then manually eject ! :D Actually i tried this as i only have a cd-writer and no cd-rom drv. so i kept xcdroast running, mounted my hdd partitions, ejected the cd. burned a new cd and popped the knx cd back again. smooth eh ? although there's a little problem when you remount. Perhaps something to do with the mounting options. try it and let me know, C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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HELP ON lfy KINOPPIX Cd WITH ROOT PASSWORD
by Ankur is here in ur inbox...... 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

hi guys, i require some help can anyone tell me the root password for the LFY Kinoppix cd which came along with this month's issue.. i need to mount my drives ...but for that the system ask's me for root password..and also can anyone tell me how can i eject the LFY KINOPPIX cd after i have booted from it.. Thanking you in advance. Ankur Ankur ___________________________________________________ Get www. mycompany .com and 5 matching email ids. Just Rs. 1499/ year. Click here http://www.rediffmailpro.com

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Problem with display driver
by kunal bharati 11 Jun '03

11 Jun '03

I tried to install Redhat 9.0 on my PC. I am having S3 Graphics Prosavage DDR for the display. It detected it as S3 Prosavage KM133 because Redhat 9.0 didnt detected my display driver. I can run Redhat 9.0 at 800x600 resolution , 256 color display. Can anyone suggest me from where I can download rpm for S3 Graphics Prosavage DDR I searched on google but I didnt got that thanks, Kunal __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

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Re:Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: PHP help needed
by Dot Dot 10 Jun '03

10 Jun '03

>It's one thing to ask for help configuring PHP on your box. But >this was just asking for how to program in PHP/JavaScript. It's >like asking beginner C questions on this list just because GCC >is free software. I will suggest that we stop trying to moderate every user and ask for a perfect mailing list with all well behaved members. >> request - plz tone down your replies. We don't want to be >> percieved as unfriendly to newbies/question posers. > >I think my reply was very friendly, by ilug-bom standards :) Vinayak, I will classify some of your replies as very unfriendly too. If you guys want to flame each other, why don't you do it sending a personal mail. Don't ask me why I'm not sending personal mails. :) Lets get back to Linuxing. __________________________________________________________ Get Your Electric Email at http://webmail.electricmela.com

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[Commercial] Virus protected mailbox for Rs. 499/-
by Amit Redij 10 Jun '03

10 Jun '03

Hi all, We provide GNU/Linux based network management services and solutions; our strength lies in our suite of connectivity (E-mail and Internet) services, one of which is TAS-Secure Mailbox. Available at the unbelievable Introductory offer price of Rs. 499.00, a TAS-Secure Mailbox provides SECURITY from all incoming virus-infected e-mail. MailScanner, the highly respected open source e-mail security system, which is freely distributable under the GNU Public License, is the core application on which the TAS-Secure Mailbox service is based. Features of the TAS-Secure Mailbox include . Virus Protection at the Mail Server Level - virus-infected e-mail messages are not allowed to enter your TAS-Secure Mailbox, the e-mail is "quarantined" at the Server level . E-mail notifications are generated when a virus-infected e-mail is "quarantined", and sent to both the intended recipient and the sender . Mailbox storage capacity: 10 MB . Auto-responder function . Auto-forward function - you don't have to bother telling your contacts that you now have a new e-mail ID - simply auto-forward your mail from your existing Mailbox to this new, secure and virus-free TAS-Secure Mailbox . Mailbox Usage Indicator For further information and to sign-up for a FREE 30-day trial TAS-Secure Mailbox, please visit us at www.tassm.com. The Argon Company, Mumbai. www.theargoncompany.com regds Amit Redij

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Some weired problem with Installation
by Shashank Ashtikar 09 Jun '03

09 Jun '03

Hello Everyone, I recently purchased a PC and installed knoppix 3.2 on it. But I ran in to a strange problem with it. <problemDescription> After installing GNU/Linux for the first time with xfs filesystem. suddenly after few days I recieved an error from INIT which said getty not found and got stuck at that. Suspecting a damaged file system I ran xfs_recover on the root partition. After recovery the OS worked fine for few days but only to run in to the same problem again. This time also I repaired the filesystem and OS worked fine. But the problem kept coming back. Hence after a while I reinstalled GNU/Linux with ReiserFS. With this the OS worked fine for another 15 days, but after 15 days it crashed bad this time it was saying INIT panick exception violation at (some hex address) waiting for 30 sec and I got the same message after every 30 second. suspecting a bad HDD I ran badblocks command on it to find and fix any badblocks present. But none were found. And recovery was also not feasible this time Hence now I have reinstalled GNU/Linux with ext3 filesyste. IT's working fine so far(I ve not passed that evil 15th day yet). Hope I won't run in to the same problem again. </problemDescription> I was told that there are some issues regarding xfs filesystem in knoppix hence I took the decision of reinstall for the first time. On both the occasions system was shutdown properly. And syslog did not report any abnormilities. Can any one shed some light on this. Thanks in Advance Shashank

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Runaway ESR
by Amol Hatwar 09 Jun '03

09 Jun '03

Wonder if any one of you came across this @ Slashdot. It's about ESR adding his own jargon descriptions to the well-known jargon file he maintains. You can see the post here: http://slashdot.org/articles/03/06/08/1534249.shtml?tid=99 For people too lazy to point their browsers here's a short description: ---Starts-- As reported by NTK, ESR appears to have embarked apon the process of recasting the Jargon File in his own image, adding terms like "Aunt Tillie" and "GhandiCon" that he dreamt up and seemingly no-one else uses, and various terms from (of all places) the warblogging community, where he is active. He's also updated the "Hacker Politics" page to be more closely aligned with his own views. --Ends-- Regards, Amol Hatwar.

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SCO evidence
by Amol Hatwar 09 Jun '03

09 Jun '03

Seems that SCO has given evidence to analysts at the Aberdeen Group; some 80 lines of it. More details here: http://eet.com/sys/news/OEG20030606S0039 As of now, I think SCO's making a mountain out of a mole-hill. But then here is one concern presented in the article: <i>If SCO (Lindon, Utah) prevails in its legal efforts, many observers believe the action could, at best, result in hundreds of multimillion-dollar licensing payments from Fortune 1000 companies and, at worst, damage the foundation of open-source software.</i> Well, I knew OSS was based on wrong principles--kind of a leg-in-leg, but this will certainly raise questions on the immunity of Free Software from such claims. Any expert opinions here? Amol Hatwar.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] debian cramfs? kernel panic unable to mount
by Satish Alwani 08 Jun '03

08 Jun '03

By the looks of things, you may also want to use a rescue disc, and check your lilo for the correct root device, or other lilo options. Since its asking you to enter directly to shell, that looks like single-user mode. If you have upgraded the kernel, try booting back to the last working kernel, or the original kernel. If this fails as well, means you prolly have to check the lilo options. Its very unlikely for a filesystem to die off.

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PHP vs. ASP .NET
by Amol Hatwar 08 Jun '03

08 Jun '03

I recently came across this article defending PHP against ASP .NET. Pretty interesting stuff. :) Must read for pedagogues, purists and pundits. Here's the link: http://blogs.phparch.com/index.php?m=200305#128 P.S. PHP5 is something to be watched. I guess it'll break the mold once again! Cheers, Amol Hatwar.

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Help me Pukar Urgently !!!!!!!!
by chetanjain 07 Jun '03

07 Jun '03

Pukar can i get the exatt address where we r actually meeting n about the time......mail me plsss urgently....n the time 2222 chetan --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).

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long time no events....hands on workshops for bombayites
by Trevor Warren 07 Jun '03

07 Jun '03

Hello Luggers, Its been a really long time since we did some real open workshops for bombayites. What say???. Am all for getting this on the road. Trevor -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor(a)clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Reviving the PRC
by Himanshu shukla 07 Jun '03

07 Jun '03

Its a wonderful thought, and I was personally greatly disappointed when it didn't kick off last time. However, the PRC is just as it was, and I have not deleted anything from the site..the passwords, usernames, etc are still present. If we can do anything to get it going, that'll be great. Cheers, Himanshu -----Original Message----- From: "GNUrpreet Singh" <gnurpreet(a)softhome.net> To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:47:55 +0530 Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Reviving the PRC GLUG Meeting on 8th 4pm at PUKAR, Near CST. ------------------------------------- hello friends Trevor, FN and I were thinking of reviving the very noble concept of the "Project Resource Center" which trevor n Dr. Nag started last year.The idea was that we have pros on the mailing lists who can very well mentor free s/w projects. we can have a place where students can come and choose projects and interact with their respectve mentors and maybe also have meetings with them on regulr intervals. This would help both the community as there will be more development and also the students coz they can find projects to work on. The idea is quite noble and it did help us a lot last year. This, I think would be a good time to start the PRC again bcoz in a short while, the BE students will start looking for projects to do as thier final year project and we can use this opportunity to put them onto free software projects. This would help them in their acads and we can gather up some more free software for the community. A good way to start would be to... o prepare a list of the people intereseted on the mailing lists in india who are ready to mentor proejects. o List down the projects that can be given out. a few options might be... -contributions on indlinux (what say karunakar??) -some development on libyahoo on which mr philip tellis has been working... - gknowledge (dr. nag, can we have some modules on which some students can work??) - etc etc (ooh! this is a nice project '-) ) Lets take this all over India this time and try to get more and more people(both students and mentors) on this. Who else can do the work of spreading the word better than FN :). FN, can we have the word spread to all the mailing lists in the country. I m posting this on the mumbai and pune GLUGs. Goa and Bealgaum GLUGs are the one i know of, you ofcourse would know of many more such destinations where you can have this mail. It would also be great if you can have the PRC mentioned in the next issue of LFY(if thats not too much of a trouble.) I think we will have to conduct a few more workshops around us if the idea has to be spread to the majour colleges. I will try and push to have one workshop organised some time in july in South maharashtra(would be either in RIT, Sangli or DY Patil COE, Kolhapur (bhaskar, u getting this??) ). May be the PLUG can have a few workshops done in engg colleges in pune and spread the idea, what say pluggerz?? suggestions and ideas invited. regards GNUrpreet -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers o all the mailing lists in the country. I m posting this on the mumbai and pune GLUGs. Goa and Bealgaum GLUGs are the one i know of, you ofcourse would know of many more such destinations where you can have this mail. It would also be great if you can have the PRC mentioned in the next issue of LFY(if thats not too much of a trouble.) I think we will have to co

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meet
by pitcom＠vsnl.com 07 Jun '03

07 Jun '03

Hi... all I may join at the meet at PUKAR Regards Kamlesh

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[ILUG-BOM] Help needed to convert VB application on open source - commercial
by Rakesh Goyal 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

we have an application with front-end as VB6 on win98/nt/2k. reporting tool used is Crystal report 8.5. back-end can be rdbms connected thru odbc. aaa. we have replaced rdbms to win-Mysql under windows environment with minor modifications but crystal-report is not supporting mysql (under win2k environment) any help / guidance on report-generation tool on mysql under windows environment will be appreciated. bbb. next, we intent to migrate / convert the application on linux, mysql / postgresql with browser-front-end using perl/php. any help for conversion or trainging on commercial basis is appreciable. Rakesh Goyal Sysman Computers P Ltd. Mumbai sysman(a)vsnl.com / sysman(a)sysman.org

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] GLUG website updated
by rohitash panda 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

hi guys, this might probably be my first ILUG meet.its must have taken pains from you people to arrange for this kind of meet.I would also like to contribute to something in the near future once i get to know about the workings. regards rohit Life is a sexually transmitted disease. Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.Unix is very user-friendly. It`s just picky who its friends are. ___________________________________________________ Impress your clients! Send mail from me @ mycompany.com . Just Rs.1499/year. Click http://www.rediffmailpro.com to know more.

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Reviving the PRC
by GNUrpreet Singh 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

hello friends Trevor, FN and I were thinking of reviving the very noble concept of the "Project Resource Center" which trevor n Dr. Nag started last year.The idea was that we have pros on the mailing lists who can very well mentor free s/w projects. we can have a place where students can come and choose projects and interact with their respectve mentors and maybe also have meetings with them on regulr intervals. This would help both the community as there will be more development and also the students coz they can find projects to work on. The idea is quite noble and it did help us a lot last year. This, I think would be a good time to start the PRC again bcoz in a short while, the BE students will start looking for projects to do as thier final year project and we can use this opportunity to put them onto free software projects. This would help them in their acads and we can gather up some more free software for the community. A good way to start would be to... o prepare a list of the people intereseted on the mailing lists in india who are ready to mentor proejects. o List down the projects that can be given out. a few options might be... -contributions on indlinux (what say karunakar??) -some development on libyahoo on which mr philip tellis has been working... - gknowledge (dr. nag, can we have some modules on which some students can work??) - etc etc (ooh! this is a nice project '-) ) Lets take this all over India this time and try to get more and more people(both students and mentors) on this. Who else can do the work of spreading the word better than FN :). FN, can we have the word spread to all the mailing lists in the country. I m posting this on the mumbai and pune GLUGs. Goa and Bealgaum GLUGs are the one i know of, you ofcourse would know of many more such destinations where you can have this mail. It would also be great if you can have the PRC mentioned in the next issue of LFY(if thats not too much of a trouble.) I think we will have to conduct a few more workshops around us if the idea has to be spread to the majour colleges. I will try and push to have one workshop organised some time in july in South maharashtra(would be either in RIT, Sangli or DY Patil COE, Kolhapur (bhaskar, u getting this??) ). May be the PLUG can have a few workshops done in engg colleges in pune and spread the idea, what say pluggerz?? suggestions and ideas invited. regards GNUrpreet

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Directions to PUKAR
by joel_divekar 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

Hi I am joining too along with my friend(s). Regards Joel "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India"<linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> wrote: Hi, > guys attending to this meet plsssssssss do reply to this mail....i am coming..Pukar > plss reserve my seat for the meeet...... I will also make it! We can discuss about the expo and finalize things. Regards, Nirav. ====================================================== | MLEP - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP education program | | http://www.mlep.com/ | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | tangible, customized solutions for your e-business | | http://www.magnet-i.com/ | ====================================================== -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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who's coming
by chetanjain 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

who's is coming for the meet ....n if what r the expences for it....waiting for an early reply....from pukar... chetan --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).

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Pukar
by Satish Alwani 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

I should be there too!! about 98% --- I leave my 2% to work! :)

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Re: Directions to PUKAR
by MagNet WebPublishing Pvt. Ltd. 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

Hi, > guys attending to this meet plsssssssss do reply to this mail....i am coming..Pukar > plss reserve my seat for the meeet...... I will also make it! We can discuss about the expo and finalize things. Regards, Nirav. ====================================================== | MLEP - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP education program | | http://www.mlep.com/ | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | tangible, customized solutions for your e-business | | http://www.magnet-i.com/ | ======================================================

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[Fwd: [ilug-goa] GNU/Linux positions in Pune][OT]
by Trevor Warren 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

-----Forwarded Message----- From: Frederick Noronha (FN) <fred(a)bytesforall.org> To: ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com Subject: [ilug-goa] GNU/Linux positions in Pune Date: 30 Apr 2003 03:24:20 +0530 Message: 3 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:49:47 +0530 (IST) From: <careers(a)acclivitous.com> To: <plug-mail(a)plug.org.in> Subject: [PLUG] [COMMERCIAL] Positions for Linux Experts in Pune Reply-To: plug-mail(a)plug.org.in Hi, We have the following positions open with one of our MNC clients in Pune. If match the profile and are interested, please email your detailed resume to careers(a)acclivitous.com. Please mention the post applied for in the subject. ** Senior Software Engineer - Linux: - At least 4 years of experience in programming in Linux/Unix environment: C/C++, Perl, Python, Shell Scripting, XML - Knowledge of development tools and networking - Good Communication Skills - Ability to work in fast paced environment - Experience working with remote development teams is a plus - Commitment to delivering high quality software on time. - Familiar with full life cycle of software development ** Software Engineer- Linux: 2-3 years development experience on Linux/Unix. Sound knowledge of Unix Operating System internals and good trouble-shooting skills. Programming experience in languages like C, C++ and sound knowledge of Object Oriented concepts is a must. Programming Experience with Internet technologies like DNS, Mail, web servers, web-hosting, FTP, and SSH are highly desirable. Knowledge of Redhat packagers a must. ** Build and Release Engineer: The ideal candidate will have solid background in Windows and Linux build environment, good experience with CVS and the ability to implement an automated process to build and release. Nice to have skills include Perl, PHP, VB, bash and knowledge of .NET technologies. The candidate will be responsible for ensuring quality and delivery of builds. Work closely with Development Team and coordinate/drive the build development/release process. - Keep abreast of the build process and associated changes on an ongoing basis. - Introduce ongoing improvements/automation in the release process. - Troubleshoot build errors and maintain release matrix. ** Systems Engineers (Linux) for customer advocacy group: - Strong knowledge in Linux. - Extensive knowledge of Apache, BIND, Sendmail, POP3/IMAP4 is mandatory - Knowledge of Web hosting business - Extensive hands-on experience (2 years Linux Sys Admin) - Windows 2000 Server experience is desirable - Strong knowledge in network and systems architecture, firewalls and Internet technology - Should know vi or equivalent editor (to edit documents in a UNIX environment) - Ability to grasp technical information quickly with proven track record in logical problem solving techniques to troubleshoot system problems independently - Superior customer service skills with excellent verbal and written skills Thanks, Rinku Chopra --__--__-- ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get 128 Bit SSL Encryption! http://us.click.yahoo.com/xaxhjB/hdqFAA/bW3JAA/0XFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To Post a message, send it to: ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: ilug-goa-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevorwarren(a)softhome.net __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales - Technical, Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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Pentium based Linux machine, over 6000 days' uptime??
by Tahir Hashmi 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

Hi all! http://counter.li.org/reports/uptimestats.php says that the longest running Linux machine has an uptime of an incredible 6011 days as of 2003-06-05 17:35 hrs. Two questions: 1) Since how long has Pentium been around? 2) Since how long has Linux been around? Go figure! -- Tahir Hashmi Compact XML Alternative - http://xqueeze.sf.net

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Hands-On Workshop
by Bhushan Kelshikar 05 Jun '03

05 Jun '03

hi luggerz !!! i would have loved to come to the meet and also volunteer for any job if required. sadly i have my exams coming up so i may not be able to participate. :-( hopefully we have more meets ... and i would be able to attend !!! newayz ... cheers to all u luggerz !!! bhushan q u a s i wrote: > At 12:36 morn 6/5/03 +0530, DS wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I would recommend the meet on 8th June at this venue, if Mr. Shekhar is >> open to the idea of course. Since this place is centrally located, more >> ppl will be able to attend and more ideas to explore. >> >> For the agenda we can have following things, >> >> 1. Discussion about GLUG-Bom and PUKAR partnership. >> 2. Discussion about the offer of Magnet-I and participation in the expo. >> 3. Techi talk on Wi-Fi in GNU/Linux by Trevor? >> >> What say guys? > > > Good Idea. I would also suggest that we charge a minimal fee -- > ~20Rs. or something & provide snacks. The best part about the GLUG > meets is the interaction with group members -- not the talks IMHO. It > would be good if we have more informal time to chat & discuss than to > sit formally and listen to someone yak. A debate, game or something > interactive would be great as it would cut the ice. > > If any volunteering is needed, I am available. > > I also kinda like the HBCSE place ... '-) > > quasi > > -- `, Cheers... ,\, # Enjoy !!! |/ ? --------- | ~ )\ Bhushan G. Kelshikar /_ /\ \____ e-mail: bhushan16(a)yahoo.com <mailto:bhushan16@yahoo.com> ~_/ \ url : http://bhushankelshikar.tripod.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

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console browser
by q u a s i 05 Jun '03

05 Jun '03

Folks! Does anyone know of a HTML browser for the console with inline image support that is stabler than links with svgalib? I cannot use framebuffer. NeoMagic chipset does not support it I think. If we have this than the last piece is here. We wont need to use X unless specifically required. q

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Preemptive Kernel patch
by Nikhil Joshi 05 Jun '03

05 Jun '03

Hi! After unsuccessful attempt to build 2.5.70 kernel I applied preemptive kernel patch on 2.4.20 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml/preempt-kernel/v2.4/ The improvement is noticeable. XMMS runs smoothly even when running Mozilla ( yes Mozilla is sort of benchmark for me :) ) I've compiled my soundcard module into the Kernel. Those who cannot wait for preemptive feature but are finding it difficult to make 2.5.70 work should certainly check this out. System Config: Cyrix MII 233 MHz 64 MB RAM CMI 8738 PCI Sound Card bzImage size = 724K -- Nikhil Joshi http://nikhiljoshi.cjb.net

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Problem related to kernel-2.5.70
by Tapeshwar Nath 05 Jun '03

05 Jun '03

Hi all, I am trying to upgarde my kernel from 2.4.18 to 2.5.70. I have downloaded the latest kernel and enabled preemptive nature in it. I have also modified the .config file to suit my needs. I did "make modules " and then "make modules_install". After this "make bzImage" . Everything went fine and i got the image. I copied that image in the /boot directory and modified lilo.conf and ran lilo. While trying to boot into this new kernel i get this message "....... Uncompressing LINUX ok... " and then the machine hangs. Is there anythign special that needs to be done. If i can get any pointers then it will be of great help. Thanks Ciao Tapesh __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] gnome/kde ?
by linuxdev 05 Jun '03

05 Jun '03

I refuse to be drawn into the small "goodies" feature by feature comparison of gnome/kde anymore. simply because one man's food is another guy's poison. Both are equally valid in different environments. >Trust me file chooser is a first year programming >project, but at the same time most used dialog. C >and callback mechanism of event handling in UI is a >stumbling block, and in absence of OO, things >quickly become bad. You answered your own question there. And i add that they do have a nice roadmap in place and almost there. They have managed to a hell of a job without OO. Kudos to the gnome team for working out things. >So you mean you dont care if some corporate biggies >comes and exploits GPL, plays hostile and demeans >OSS projects? AS a glug member I was expecting >something else from you. Ignorance is not bliss. Ignorance is not on this side of the line, believe me. Your reference to KDE's slowness was an article of the year 2001 with gcc 2.95 in question. and even there the author points out that the faults lie with kde and not gcc. I seriously disagree on the point of RH exploiting GPL. They give you freedom to modify whatever stuff you get from them. So you simply cannot whine. Don't like it then change it or don't use it. But don't blame it for not including your favorite ice-cream with a cherry on top. The "demeaning" theory that you talked about only started floating around when rh modified kde (m'be even stripped it a little) for its 8.1 psyche. for 9.0 they give you the full dosh. >IceWM! IceWM! Its the coolest one. ?? >Using GTK is the biggest mistake done by gaim AND by abiword and by openoffice and by few hundred other perfectly useful other apps. And guess what ? they separated the core and the gui in the latest release of gaim. The plugin architechture has been cleaned up too. :D > pain to minimum. I don't expect to go on a tweaking trip as soon as i > install a desktop. I would like the options sensible enough. Gnome does > that. KDE might, i'll leave that question. >Please justify your claim in Gnome doing any better >than KDE. Gnome simply doesn't do it better than KDE for you because you choose it not to. For me it does :D. The default options of both kde and gnome suck equally for me and am not talking of redhat. both need a good theme set besides really big toolbars, flashy scrollbars, plump buttons etc. Gnome has one in place called Mist while KDE does it with a combination of 2 or three modifications. I forget the names. >My recommended option has been FTP install, but you may not access to a filthy >Net connection as I have ;) I got Mandrake 9.1 CDs too, and would be willing >to share with you, if Sameer lets us, next meeting would be in IITB, and IF >my DDP lets me, I am planning to attend it. Ah yes i do lack the access to the 2mbps(or 4 for iits?) ernet connection. so its still cds for me. I'll try to make it to iitb too. cya, C P.S: I'll keep my next post on filesystems. enough of gnome/kde. its choice and no more no less. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Meeting on June 8th
by Nagarjuna G. 05 Jun '03

05 Jun '03

Is the meeting planned, venue and agenda. Let me know in advance if HBCSE venue is required. Due to science olympiad camps presently going on at the centre unless I make reservation the lecture room may not be available. We also need volunteers to maintain the keep the informations uptodate. Even if the drafted material is sent to me I will update the site. Will find it difficult to manage writing it myself. We had several workshops and at least two monthly meetings, and the website is not updated. Is there a write up on recent workshop at Hubli. Nagarjuna -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ nagarjun at hbcse tifr res in. http://www.gnowledge.org/ I support Public Library of Science http://www.plos.org/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Problem related to kernel-2.5.70
by linuxdev 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

There could be 3 points where you are having trouble 1. you haven't selected the proper config for yer sys. 2. selected your boot fs as a module 3. not used the latest modutils avlbl. at ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rusty/modules/module-init-tool… There is one very imp. point i happened to note while working with 2.5.x kernels. It picks up the configuration of your current kernel if its lying around in your /boot or in /usr/src/xyz . This creates problems due to introduction of unwanted extraneous symbols and values. So the best way is to touch .config before make xconfig or menuconfig. also please read the readme in the modutils bzball closely else you'll end up messing up ur distro. If you are uncomfortable with the modutils the best way is ofcourse compile nothing as a module. Build-in all possible options and check if it works. hope that helps, C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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filesystems and a little gnome/kde ;)
by linuxdev 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

Alright, here's a mail on my filesystems. But please note its a end-user experience rather than a highly scientific study with stats of any kind. Tho i do provide a link where a server admin from Oregon state did that recently. First and foremost ext2 is a winner for speed because it lacks journalling. So its more or less unfair. Secondly for journalled fs, its slightly dependent on the distro you use since the kernel _may_ be patched for improving the performance on a particular fs. A journal is a sort of double entry to state it crudely. so you don't lose the data even if you crash. It simply reverts to the older copy on disk on next boot. thats faster booting time. Ext2: This is one of the oldies and the fastest fs on the block. But also the most yuckiest in crash recovery. If you have a nice big installation (most of the libs,devel rpms are in place.) you'll have loong startups after crash. Then again if you are low on space ext2 wastes a little more than others since its block allocation is fixed. Ext3: Basically ext2 with a journal. Now by general logic one would think that it ought to be nearly as fast as ext2. But no, ext2 wasn't meant to be a journalling fs so its more like an addon to it. A heavy addon which pulls down its performance. There are options to ext3 journalling : ordered,writeback,journal. of which writeback is fastest since journalling is put off for sometime. Now my experience with this has been a little unhappy on a default rh. i guess its their patches. But moment i recompiled my kernel with rc6-ac2 patch to boot i got a good perf. not as good as reiserfs tho. Reiserfs: This is a fs written from scratch and under heavy development. It uses B+ trees for its structure and consequently packs in more data in smaller space. This option of packing in smaller data into smaller spaces takes a little calculation and hence time. Turn it off by the notail option and you have a fast fs on your hands. Now this fs has a peculiar characteristic. Its fast for small filesizes about 6mb max. beyond this the performance in terms of read/write times degrades a bit.This however is true of current version 3.6 in 4 they claim to have addressed it. Its coming up this month. Its performance in the upcoming 2.5.x kernels is tops. for 2.4.21 the performance goes great with rc6-acX patches. This fs is generally recommended by most. For websites and servers its the best. As for JFS and XFS: JFS is a unique fs in the fact that you can recover data from JFS in case of a really bad crash by mounting it as ext2 ! Its a fs from IBM and is quite under development. Its performance is good but lower than Reiserfs. XFS is best avoided at present because of its unstability. There have been reports of data corruption in case of crashes. This fs comes from SGI and promises superb performance for big file sizes. For small sizes this isn't good enough. Now to give you a little conclusion here's what i say : Since most of the binaries, conf. files on a regular linux systems don't go beyond 10mb reiserfs is a really good option. big files are far and few. Here's a little tasty trick for rh 9.0. while installing rh doesn't present reiserfs in disk druid. So when you boot type "linux reiserfs" instead of pressing enter and disk druid will list it. :D hope that mumbling of mine made sense ! For figures and facts check this out... http://www.net.oregonstate.edu/~kveton/fs/ i'll try to be a little more organized in my next mail, cya, C ------ cut here for some gnome/kde 8>< --------- gnome is doing fine for me. others i dunno. thankyou. I have very good reasons to say that kde is slow even with the latest gcc. Slower than gnome. If there's some special way i could compile kde for faster performance please let me know. And no its not a myth that i am spreading. I could definitely mail the KDE list as you say. Buts thats a little way off track. As they stand now they are slow given their own instructions for compiling and performance improvement. what a distro includes or excludes is the distro's decision. not others, tho it is the distro's responsibility to respond to the users which Redhat does quite well. and if a user doesn't agree he/she is free enough to change it or ditch the distro. > >IceWM! IceWM! Its the coolest one. > ?? >Google! Google! Its the coolest one :-) frankly gnome/gtk works for me and am happy. Others did not after having given them a fair trial on my part. End of discussion. >BTW are you sure Abiword and OO.o are Gnome apps? I never said they were. They use gtk for the "final rendering" as you say and not qt. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Apache module on OSX
by Satya 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

mod_auth_any works on Linux but not on OSX. apxs i -c, and then apachectl: Syntax error on line 271 of /etc/httpd/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/libexec/httpd/mod_auth_any.so into server: (reason unknown) Any ideas? Line 271 is: LoadModule auth_any_module /usr/libexec/httpd/mod_auth_any.so Relevant screen dumps: [root]~/mod_auth_any/src# uname -a Darwin macserver 6.6 Darwin Kernel Version 6.6: Thu May 1 21:48:54 PDT 2003; root:xnu/xnu-344.34.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc [root]~/mod_auth_any/src# httpd -l Compiled-in modules: http_core.c mod_so.c suexec: disabled; invalid wrapper /usr/sbin/suexec [root]~/mod_auth_any/src# httpd -v Server version: Apache/1.3.27 (Darwin) Server built: 01/15/03 19:22:17 [root]~/mod_auth_any/src# httpd -V Server version: Apache/1.3.27 (Darwin) Server built: 01/15/03 19:22:17 Server's Module Magic Number: 19990320:13 Server compiled with.... -D EAPI -D HAVE_MMAP -D USE_MMAP_SCOREBOARD -D USE_MMAP_FILES -D HAVE_FCNTL_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT -D HAVE_FLOCK_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT -D SINGLE_LISTEN_UNSERIALIZED_ACCEPT -D HARD_SERVER_LIMIT=2048 -D HTTPD_ROOT="/usr" -D SUEXEC_BIN="/usr/sbin/suexec" -D DEFAULT_PIDLOG="/var/run/httpd.pid" -D DEFAULT_SCOREBOARD="/var/run/httpd.scoreboard" -D DEFAULT_LOCKFILE="/var/run/httpd.lock" -D DEFAULT_ERRORLOG="/var/log/httpd/error_log" -D TYPES_CONFIG_FILE="/etc/httpd/mime.types" -D SERVER_CONFIG_FILE="/etc/httpd/httpd.conf" -D ACCESS_CONFIG_FILE="/etc/httpd/access.conf" -D RESOURCE_CONFIG_FILE="/etc/httpd/srm.conf" And google is very unhelpful. -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> 'Press to test.' <click> 'Release to detonate.'

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anybody home?
by Amit Upadhyay 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hi, am new to this list, but am disappointed to see lack of traffic here.. anyone listening, lets revive it if its possible.. i am running single boot linux on my PC since about two and a half years, and am a great fan of Mandrake distribution. i came across http://dot.kde.org/1053201681/ -> "KDE/Qt Gain Increased Support for Indic Languages", and the screenshots look good. - -- Amit Upadhyay Senior Undergraduate Student Department of Mechanical Engg. Indian Institute of Technology Bombay Mumbai-76, India Phone: (91) 9820325940 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+2864B9EzZHCJyNkRAu52AJ43VtRKf1cPYOe+cAoCxhbHUYNHnQCeMbiR 2Y87AktphQ81AEdfDmWIpSo= =7e4Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] gnome/kde ?
by linuxdev 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

hey there, surprise ! kde is nice stable and quite complete on redhat 9.0. What is the statement "kde rpms are privately created" supposed to mean ?! They are available with the official distribution. And as for the argument of "more official". Its not the aim of the site you mentioned. They mean it to be a site for the *latest* kde rpms for those who can't deal with sources. Agreed rh is slow in releasing but that's applicable to even gnome packages! And remote networking, ssh capabilities of a file manager is not exactly a regular guy's dream. I don't envision any normal user going ga-ga over remote editing in a file dialog box given that 80% of the users would save on an internet bill. And regarding your lament of a relatively featureless gnome open file dialog box, its going to be true only till 2.3 after the development plan is shifting aggresively to adding features to widgets. For 2.4 they are specifically addressing the needs of a more powerful dialog box. And frankly if kde developers hate me for using redhat i don't give a damn. Hey rh is times better for any serious developing work/ enterprise env. Besides i recompile most of my packages for p4 for which currently no binary distro is optimized for, by default. So there's no question of missing candy. then again, number of releases *along* with the introduction of new features is something to be reckoned with. Try mailing the nautilus dev list for a feature and you'll probably find it implemented in the next release. Thats what they want right now. feedback. And unless you give them that there's no chance of your favorite gizmo turning up in it. >Its more a c++ "feature" than KDE's. KDE is well >aware of this thing yet there >is little short of improving gcc that can be done >about it. blaming bad implementations on gcc is really uncool. KDE is slow. the developers know it. That they are working on it is a good sign. something that would make me consider KDE in the future. > again memory usage: on rh 9.0 with gnome the usage on immediate startup is > 128 mb. for kde ? 213 mb. eh ? A quick look at system-monitor will tell you > all the story. and my suggestion use gnome-monitor. >Frankly I dont care, I mean I can play DivX movies >while simultaneously downloading them and having 3 >connections on my FTP server downloading from me at >near top speed with KDE running in all its glory, >and I have only 128MB RAM. Stats are for staticians. And for developers. well i do care about free RAM. coz compiling needs plenty of it. thats top priority for me :D besides watching divx movies and file sharing and editing web pages. Ever faced disk thrashing ? On a sidenews : there's this file sharing client out there mldonkey - works for quite a lot of filesharing n/w gnutella, edonkey, fasttrack (yeah!), bittorrent, directconnect. its really good and fast, check it out. And they use gtk :P And of good reasons of gtk over qt ? m'be you could ask the developers of evolution, gaim, mldonkey, mplayer gui, xmms, gnucash. and many more perfectly useful software that you could shake your stick at. >Anything that is GPL gives equal level of powers to >modify it At what level is the question. I don't expect most users to go patch my software to get it looking the way they want it to. gtk tries to keep the pain to minimum. I don't expect to go on a tweaking trip as soon as i install a desktop. I would like the options sensible enough. Gnome does that. KDE might, i'll leave that question. I may give the newer mandrake a whirl as soon as i get hold of a set. (can you help me there?) Indeed if you have used mozilla firebird you wouldn't say konqueror is better. The only complaint of long startup times for mozilla is being actively worked on will be taken care of in few months. Simple reason: they are moving away from XUL to platform dependent gui. Atleast for the framework. Now what exactly are you missing in gnome toolbar is beyond me. regards, C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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gnome/kde ?
by linuxdev 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

hi, Just as you said its shifting from the platform to the realm of distribution, i can very well state that your experience of KDE is distribution dependent. And well talking of my distro its RH 9.0 with a nice stable complete gnome/kde distribution. If you wanted screenshots I could send you plenty. But well the question comes of posting them. I don't really like the idea of posting them on a list. And about there's lot more going on in KDE is quite not the case. If you checked the release schedules of gnome and all the gtk based software i'd say gnome is far more active ;) Both the desktops have been releasing neck to neck. As far as memory usage, startup times is concerned i can say a trifle unscientifically that gnome starts about 5-6 seconds faster than kde. Then again memory usage: on rh 9.0 with gnome the usage on immediate startup is 128 mb. for kde ? 213 mb. eh ? A quick look at system-monitor will tell you all the story. and my suggestion use gnome-monitor. i don't think its right to call the decision of selecting gtk over kde for programming as legacy. Even the latest and the finest software that turns out today on freshmeat.net is gtk based. While there is a wide difference in the philosophies of these two toolkits both have very stable and viable reasoning behind them. On a general principle developers prefer gtk for its "lightness" and simplicity with enough power to modify it. The visual clutter that i referred to is not due to bad distro. I wouldn't go so far as to call debian-sid,rh9.0,knoppix3.2 as bad distros. The visual distraction is what the gnome developers trying to fight. Agreed there are many sharp edges to gtk but they are rapidly being addressed by the developers. That is what exactly the lead developer for gnome recently gave a call for. What software you prefer is matter of personal taste. I prefer mozilla for my surfing and mail. I dislike konquerer for too many reasons that i do not care to list here for the sake of sanity. There are far too many non-default softwares that work n-times better than the default softies of kde or gnome. And if you are talking of startup times etc. gnome beats the pants off kde anytime. U definitely don't need me to give quanitative comparisons for that ? I don't know what customization you are talking of but its equally easy to customize a gnome toolbar/desktop ! Its all a matter of personal taste,familiarity and as far as mine goes i love speed, neatness and min. of visual clutter. gnome fits the bill. I was a lover of kde till rh 8.1(psyche) until rh 9.0 came along. Its no going back now for me. The choice is yours buddy, thats what linux about ~! later, C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Mr. Kalam Thrashes Proprietary Software
by Pranav Joshi 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

"The most unfortunate thing is that India still seems to believe in proprietary solutions," President Kalam. Read the whole article to know what our president has to say about Free/Prop software. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/30991.html Pranav ===== I bless your computer, my child! ------------------------- Saint IGNUcius. ------------------------- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Indic fonts
by linuxdev 04 Jun '03

04 Jun '03

my opinion about the pathetic indic support in software in general is lack of gov. initiative in this regard. Sorry if i sound whiny here :D In China they made it a gov. agenda to get the lang. on to softwares. They dared microsoft to enter without chinese language support. As of today they have put all the top univs, softw. companies in china to work on complete chinese version of linux - red flag. I am really waiting for that to happen here. Just one or two developers can't do this. Its lot of work and requires a lot of resources and brains. Agreedly as jt says its dependent on market size too. But thats only the initiative for software business wanting to setup a shop. Gov. should definitely have more reasons to do it besides market ? Also if we have one nice uniform api /platform in place businesses would find it easier to adapt their software for it ? This is being worked on in iits AFAIK, i dunno the name of the project but i did read bout it sometime back on an iit page. later, C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Indic fonts
by linuxdev 03 Jun '03

03 Jun '03

Hi everybody, Doesn't the argument of display of fonts seem to be fading with the major work load having shifted to xft in X ?? All the same it makes me wonder why chinese is first supported as international language these days by any software. Devnagri doesn't figure anywhere most of the times. Despite the fact that mandarin script is quite difficult in structure than the devnagri. Some developer of X back then pointed out that it was due to lack of standard in implementation of fonts. There are n things to making fonts and there is a lack of standards for that in indian fonts was the gist. And now talking of GTK vs Qt (again why should it be vs is something that beats me !) i always look at the memory usage and relevance of features. I dunno who made that comment -> "KDE values quality over features" ... but thats actually a characteristic of gtk and not kde/Qt. They actually try to get things neat, secure, clean than kde where the user is first confronted with soo many features to tweak that he/she wishes their original platform were better. Talking of quality i consider memory usage to be one aspect of it too. GTK simply shines there. KDE/Qt has tons of work to do in that section. GTK as it stands now is no way perfect but a viable and an extremely efficient platform for anyone who hates visual clutter (read as eye candy). I haven't tested the upcoming 2.4 gnome but as far as the aims goes they have a surefire winner. There are many points which could be debated as to where GTK shines and where it does not. But as far as application development goes gtk is a preferred choice by most of the apps in linux for gui. i couldn't help popping in when someone simply fires off against gnome or kde without giving it a thought. ;) my next post was supposed to be on my experiences wit h the various filesystems in linux. oh well nevermind. it'll be the next. C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Events / Sessions for exhibition
by MagNet WebPublishing Pvt. Ltd. 03 Jun '03

03 Jun '03

Hi All, We have taken a stall at an upcoming exhibition in Mumbai - 13 to 15 June. As we will be promoting GNU/Linux & related services, we were thinking that we could invite some partners - either on a commercial basis or otherwise. I have got a confirmation from the organizers and they are ready to provide the infrastructure to carry out some presentations as well. We are happy that IndLinux will be there with us on Saturday. We are looking for 2 more projects/organizations we could bring in. If it is a commercial venture, we could work out commercials, and if it is non-profit, we can give the space free. I was thinking if ilug-bom or anybody else wanted to join. Any volunteers for presentations are also welcome. Though the presentations may not be high-profile, we can spread a word about it. Your thoughts / comments / ideas welcome! Regards, Nirav. ====================================================== | MLEP - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP education program | | http://www.mlep.com/ | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | tangible, customized solutions for your e-business | | http://www.magnet-i.com/ | ======================================================

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] hands on workshops for bombayites............NY TAKERS???
by joel_divekar 03 Jun '03

03 Jun '03

Hi Guys That would be great. Please count me in. Regards Joel "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" wrote: Hey Luggers!!!! Do we have any takers for the same. Its time for some action and all of us would be glad to have as many as possible on board. Lets start with a small Open Event for Enterprises-Indivizuals and then migrate from there. Trevor On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 09:55, Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 07:49:56AM +0530, Trevor Warren wrote: > > > Its been a really long time since we did some real open workshops for > > bombayites. > > > > What say???. Am all for getting this on the road. > > Count me in! > > Sameer. -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor(a)clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/ -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now !

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[COMMERCIAL] Training in Qt
by Aseem Rane 02 Jun '03

02 Jun '03

Hi friends, Does any institution/individual offers formal training on Qt (3.1.2) in Mumbai. I am looking for a ~3 days fulltime workshop. I am interested in * Qt Signal/Slots Mechanism * Having Qt and Motif widgets in the same form interacting with each other. * Internationalization * Building custom widgets/plugins * Drag-Drop functionality (Different Mime Types) * Qt designer * Debugging etc.... Apart Qt Referance Documentation, Is there any other material/books which are recomended for serious development in Qt? Regards Aseem -- Aseem Rane Sr. Software Engineer, L&T Infotech Ltd. Powai.

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Events / Sessions for exhibition
by MagNet WebPublishing Pvt. Ltd. 02 Jun '03

02 Jun '03

Hi All, We have taken a stall at an upcoming exhibition in Mumbai - 13 to 15 June. As we will be promoting GNU/Linux & related services, we were thinking that we could invite some partners - either on a commercial basis or otherwise. I have got a confirmation from the organizers and they are ready to provide the infrastructure to carry out some presentations as well. We are happy that IndLinux will be there with us on Saturday. We are looking for 2 more projects/organizations we could bring in. If it is a commercial venture, we could work out commercials, and if it is non-profit, we can give the space free. I was thinking if ilug-bom or anybody else wanted to join. Any volunteers for presentations are also welcome. Though the presentations may not be high-profile, we can spread a word about it. Your thoughts / comments / ideas welcome! Regards, Nirav. ====================================================== | MLEP - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP education program | | http://www.mlep.com/ | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | tangible, customized solutions for your e-business | | http://www.magnet-i.com/ | ======================================================

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Events / Sessions for exhibition
by MagNet WebPublishing Pvt. Ltd. 02 Jun '03

02 Jun '03

Hi All, We have taken a stall at an upcoming exhibition in Mumbai - 13 to 15 June. As we will be promoting GNU/Linux & related services, we were thinking that we could invite some partners - either on a commercial basis or otherwise. I have got a confirmation from the organizers and they are ready to provide the infrastructure to carry out some presentations as well. We are happy that IndLinux will be there with us on Saturday. We are looking for 2 more projects/organizations we could bring in. If it is a commercial venture, we could work out commercials, and if it is non-profit, we can give the space free. I was thinking if ilug-bom or anybody else wanted to join. Any volunteers for presentations are also welcome. Though the presentations may not be high-profile, we can spread a word about it. Your thoughts / comments / ideas welcome! Regards, Nirav. ====================================================== | MLEP - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP education program | | http://www.mlep.com/ | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | tangible, customized solutions for your e-business | | http://www.magnet-i.com/ | ======================================================

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Kernel 2.5.70 problems
by Nikhil Joshi 01 Jun '03

01 Jun '03

Hi! I got curious after reading linuxdev's mail regarding kernel 2.5.70 and installed it. I followed the ususal procedure. However my mouse is not working now. I've compiled the support for mouse into the kernel itself: CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL=y gpm gives message: /dev/mouse: Connection refused (where /dev/mouse is symlink to /dev/cua0. This works on my 2.4 kernel) I've also compiled modules for my sound card, which also doesnt work. #lsmod gives blank output. I've updated modutils to the latest version (0.9.12) Is this the result of beta version of kernel or have i missed something? Please guide. -- Nikhil Joshi http://nikhiljoshi.cjb.net

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[para-OT ;)] Need Debian "Sid"
by nemo＠phoenixsoftech.com 01 Jun '03

01 Jun '03

Hi all, I would like to know where I can get Debian "Sid" unstable CDs. If anyone in Mumbai has them I will pay for the copies. Nemo

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Kmail Trouble
by Mangesh Bhalerao 01 Jun '03

01 Jun '03

Hi everybody I had some trouble with my previous installation of RH 8.0 so I compleatly took of backup my whole user directory ( exactly tared the whole thing) . After the second installation I put the same directory completly at its place (/home/user). Every setting what I found was intact but there was a trouble with Kmail. I setup Kmail's mail format as Maildir . At first I could see every mail atits place but when I tried to click open it I got blank document and inthe subject field in the list I found the subject field of the accessed mail as "No subject". That means it completly got vanished even after the backup ! Is there any one who can help me out to find some way out of this trouble. Thanking you in advance. Regards Mangesh Bhalerao --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.478 / Virus Database: 275 - Release Date: 5/6/2003

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[Announce] msnp.py 0.3 released
by Manish Jethani 31 May '03

31 May '03

msnp.py is an implementation of the MSN instant messaging protocol in the Python programming language. This pure Python package makes it extremely easy, quick, and efficient to build applications that need to interact with the MSN messaging service. http://msnp.sf.net/ Features: * Login; logout * Presence states (online, away, etc.) * Full-fledged API-supported friend list management * Privacy settings * Chat conversations (start, join, leave) * Instant messages * Typing notifications * HTTP proxy (tunnelling) support Version 0.3 includes full support for friend list management, enhancements to session/chat APIs, minor bug fixes, and a new tutorial: http://msnp.sf.net/tutorial.html msnp.py is based on the works of Mike Mintz: http://www.hypothetic.org/docs/msn/index.php -Manish -- ``There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.'' -- Morpheus, in The Matrix

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experiences with the upcoming kernel 2.6
by linuxdev 31 May '03

31 May '03

Hi everybody, Just been testing kernel 2.5.70 on rh 9.0 with reiserfs. One thing's for sure, the final stable 2.6 is going to be a surefire cracker of a kernel. Not only is it fast (no i am stating it subjectively no tests to back it up from my side), but due the pre-emptive kernel feature for desktop along with the interactivity improvements to scheduler, the response is more than snappy. It rocks. Here's a simple "test" i carried out. On my regular kernel i was untarring the kernel tarball and at the same time i tried listening to an mp3 on xmms. Needless to say there was skipping. and even after the untar was complete there was considerable disk thrashing. Step in kernel 2.5.70. Everything works as if its the only thing running around ! The trend for this kernel is to sort of split it as for server and for desktop. You don't need, infact you will hate 2.6 if you use pre-emptive kernel feature for a server environment. However before you jump for www.kernel.org to get a tarball here's a few things that might help you along. 1. do not. i repeat do not select filesystems, ide,scsi options as modules. build them into kernel. The simple reason for this is that there are lots of issues to be ironed out in modules before the stable release. As of now there will be no new features to be added. Its more like a bug-fixing contest right now. 2. before you start whining about unresolved symbols in modules while installing take a look at the modutils available at kernel.org. i forget the link right now. The regular stock modutils do not work with newer kernel. Thats another reason to build the options into the kernel. 3. one thing i haven't got right on my i845glad mobo. alsa sound. Can't get that damned thing to work. And add to my pain every keeps praising it all the more. grrrr. Having said all this please do not blame me for any data / hair loss for any experiments you carry out with that new cracker. I simply stated my experience. ;) I could definitely help you out trying to get a stable conf for this new gizmo tho. next time around i'll post my experience with different (ext2/3/reiserfs) filesystems. cya, C Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now!

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Keeping in touch
by Roshan D'Silva 31 May '03

31 May '03

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Munich Moves to Linux..
by Pranav Joshi 30 May '03

30 May '03

Interesting article on ZDnet The local government in Munich, Germany, has voted to move 14,000 computers from Microsoft's Windows to the rival Linux operating system, despite efforts by the software giant to hang onto the multimillion-dollar contract. http://www.zdnetindia.com/techzone/linuxcentre/stories/82640.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

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can Linux recognise windows files
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 30 May '03

30 May '03

Hi, Many thanks to all who replied to my query on partitioning. I'll try it out over the wkend! One question: I have some files jpegs, docs etc. in Windows fat32 system, while linux uses ext2(I gather). Can I still access these docs from linux? Thanks, --Royce.

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[News] ayttm/Philip on Express Computer
by Manish Jethani 30 May '03

30 May '03

Indian helps make seamless instant messaging possible Universal instant messaging means you never have to worry about which IM client your buddies use. While proprietary products like MSN Messenger and Yahoo Messenger would like to lock you in, the free software alternative—ayttm—wants to set you free. FREDERICK NORONHA takes a look at ayttm and finds out what motivates its geographically dispersed developers Read rest of the article here: http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/20030602/indcomp1.shtml

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How to partition?
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 29 May '03

29 May '03

Hi, I've been eager to try out Linux for a while, but never could as I just couldnt figure out the partitioning requirements. This is where I've always got stuck & given up a on Linux installation. I've got CDs of Knoppix 3.1, PCQLinux 8.0 & ELX 2.0, but I could never get past the partitioning stage with any of them. Also all published articles on installing these packages barely have a sentence relating to partitioning, which has added to the frustation. To describe my challenge simply, I have Windows C:,D:,E; & F: . F: is 11Gb, & all I want to do is to simply use this space & partition for Linux & Swap. Is that so difficult? Is it possible to get some guidance in simple English on how to do this. I need a "Select this then click on that & then click OK" kind of guidance, such as which Windows has (BTW why is Linux so much harder to install than Windows. Is Windows smarter?)Ooops, *now* I've done it!. Can any one clear the mist for me ? I'm sure no one else has has these questions! Thanks, --Royce.

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Fw: [ILUG-BOM] How to partition?
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 29 May '03

29 May '03

Hi, all, ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to partition? > > I've been eager to try out Linux for a while, but never could as I just > > couldnt figure out the partitioning requirements. This is where I've always > I can guide you with redhat installation may be others are > similar. > 1)Boot from Your CD (I hope you know this) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Something strange here.. I've stopped getting the LUG-Bom mail from the list. Even my question re. partitioning(which many kindly answered) did not get sent back to me thru' the list! I received the replies to my query only 'coz the mails were CCd to me as well as the list. So how did I get unsubscribed? Do I subscribe again? Thanks, --Royce.

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System Administrator
by shaukath ali 28 May '03

28 May '03

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Problem in display in rh 8.0
by Girish Hanchate 28 May '03

28 May '03

Hi, I have installed RH 8.0 on P IV system with 845 Intel chip set mother board. My GUI is not getting configured on same. Like old version of RH in which u have Xconfigurator utility to configure GUI, RH 8.0 is not such type of utility for configuration for same. Kindly advice the how to configure same on RH 8.0. rgds Girish __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

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[ILUG-BOM] LINKS: Enterprise GNU/Linux implementation (Mumbai, June 12-13)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 28 May '03

28 May '03

ENTERPRISE GNU / LINUX IMPLEMENTATION Hotel ITC Grand Maratha Sheraton, Mumbai June 12 & 13, 2003 Day One Thursday, June 12, 2003 09:15: GNU/LINUX -- GENESIS & ITS PRESENT RELEVANCE * Free Software Paradigm vs. Proprietary Software Paradigm * Fundamental Difference: o Is software a goods or a service? o Copy able and non-copy able resources * Ethics & Business Model for copy able resources * Creativity, Hacking & Publishing * Users' right to repair * What is the meaning of 'free' in free software? * The genesis of Free Software: 1984 to today * The birth of GNU/Linux * Why is GNU/Linux Relevant? o Stability o Security o Virus Free o Open Standards o Economical o Social Relevance o Ethics & Economics o Education o Owned & Regulated by the community * Is it legal to sell free software? o Sell software with the source code * Free software in India Dr. Nagarjuna G Director (Free Software Foundation, India), Academic Member (HBCSE) 10:00: GOVERNMENT INITIATIVES Dr. S. Ramakrishna, Senior Director, Ministry of IT 11:00: OPEN SOURCE ENTERPRISE SOFTWARE ARCHITECTURE * Current trends and landscape of non-proprietary software * 'Open source', 'free software', 'GNU Public license' - Explained * Industry trends in adoption of non-proprietary software in large enterprises and organization � benefits and challenges * Role of open source / non-proprietary software, including Linux, in the enterprise architecture planning in the near and medium-term future. * Defining Enterprise Architectures involving structured moves towards increasing use of non-proprietary software. * Strategies for enterprise architecture planning and experiences in adopting Linux and other non-proprietary software in complex settings * State of the industry in 'enterprise strength non-proprietary software architectures' Dr. Gautam Shroff, Head: Enterprise Architecture, TATA Consultancy Services 12:00: ENTERPRISE STRATEGIES AND CHALLENGES FOR LINUX MIGRATION 14.00: Strategies for Deploying Linux on Enterprise Servers Basant Kerketta, System Analyst The New India Assurance Co. Ltd. 14:45: LINUX IN AN ON-DEMAND ERA The emerging e-business on demand marketplace is resulting in heightened need for interoperability and standardization within the IT infrastructure that supports it. Linux shines out in this regard, because of it's unique ability to run across hardware platforms, right from embedded devices to the biggest mainframes in the business, as well as its ability to support a broad range of middleware, software and enterprise applications across the board. In this session the latest trends in Linux, as well as how it can used in various customer scenario's, to meet today's rigorous demands from cutting edge technology will be discussed Sandeep Menon, Linux Business Manager � ASEAN/SA, IBM India Ltd. 15:45 :Linux Usage in an Online Environment G.M. Shenoy, Sr. Vice President, NSE.IT 16.30 :Deploying GNU / Linux Abhijit Dasgupta, VP: IT, Times of India Group Day Two Friday, June 13, 2003 09.15: Deploying GNU / Linux in a Multi User / Multi Environment Dr. G. Sivakumar, Head: Computer Centre, IIT, Mumbai 10.00: Deploying Financial and HR applications on Linux Platform * The background under which we went in for the HR and Financial applications * WHat OS oprtions were available to us * Why we chose Linux over others * What were the concerns * How we addressed these concerns * What was�our experience with Linux implementation� (what were the issues that we faced and how we resoved them) Neeraj Bhai, CTO, IDBI Bank 11.00 State of the Dolphin Gerardo Narvaja , MySQL AB 12:00: COST EFFECTIVE SUPER COMPUTING FOR THE ENTERPRISE An alternative to traditional supercomputing is a method of linking multiple computers together to form a unified and very powerful system.. Beowulf clusters are specialized supercomputers that are gaining popularity in the technical and enterprise computing market because of their high performance at a relatively low cost * Evolution of Supercomputing * Details of Beowulf Clustering and how to select the right cluster for your application * Designing a linux cluster * Network Interconnects * Storage management * Cluster Management and Monitoring * Scalabiltiy , Reliability and Availability. * Area of Applications * Case studies on price performance gain with clusters Narayanan Subramaniam, Technical Head Benz Infotech Consultancy Services 14:00: LEGAL IMPLICATIONS OF NON-PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE * The Alternative Intellectual Property of OSS * The Legal innovation involved in Open Source Software * Legal Validity of the GPL: Is the GPL legally enforceable? * Understanding the differences between the various licensing options available within the Open Souce Movement � the Free Software v. Open Source Debate * Survey of cases / judicial developments in the area Lawrance Liang, Legal Researcher, ALF 14.45 Deploying GNU/LINUX in eGovernance N. C. Nagarjuna Reddy Officer on Special Duty IG Registration & Stamps, Govt. Of A. P. 16:00: LINUX ON THE DESKTOP Breach Candy hospital runs a totally integrated hospital information system that runs on a Linux platform for both backend and front-end operations. Mr. Desai would discuss the implementation strategies and how this has benefited the hospital. Dilip Desai, Head IT, Breach Candy Hospital 16:20 GNU / Linux Deployment for the Enterprise � Indian Scenario * Is GNU / Linux Enterprise Ready ? * Economic viability of Linux implementation for the Enterprise. * Factors to be considered before deploying Linux in organizations. * Infrastructure Requirement. * Migration Challenges - Windows to Linux * Legal aspects of GNU / Linux Service providers. * Long term and short-term financial viability. * Evaluating economic viability of desktop implementation of GNU / Linux MODERATOR: Prakash Advani, Sr. VP, Netcore Solutions Pvt. Ltd. * Dilip Desai, Head: IT, Breach Candy Hospital * Shashank Sathe, CIO, Repro India Co-Sponsors: Benz Infotech Consultancy Services Official Publications: Linux For You More information, contact: HASHIM POONAWALA T: +91-22-2828 1301 F: +91-22-2828 1305 E: hashim at marcusevansin.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linuxers -- confirmation of subscription -- request 285320
by Bhushan Kelshikar 27 May '03

27 May '03

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linuxers -- confirmation of subscription -- request 285320
by Bhushan Kelshikar 27 May '03

27 May '03

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linuxers -- confirmation of subscription -- request 285320
by Bhushan Kelshikar 27 May '03

27 May '03

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[ILUG-BOM] Re: Linuxers -- confirmation of subscription -- request 285320
by VC Bothra 27 May '03

27 May '03

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[ILUG-BOM] LINKS: Enterprise GNU/Linux implementation (Mumbai, June 12-13)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 27 May '03

27 May '03

ENTERPRISE GNU / LINUX IMPLEMENTATION Hotel ITC Grand Maratha Sheraton, Mumbai June 12 & 13, 2003 Day One Thursday, June 12, 2003 09:15: GNU/LINUX -- GENESIS & ITS PRESENT RELEVANCE * Free Software Paradigm vs. Proprietary Software Paradigm * Fundamental Difference: o Is software a goods or a service? o Copy able and non-copy able resources * Ethics & Business Model for copy able resources * Creativity, Hacking & Publishing * Users' right to repair * What is the meaning of 'free' in free software? * The genesis of Free Software: 1984 to today * The birth of GNU/Linux * Why is GNU/Linux Relevant? o Stability o Security o Virus Free o Open Standards o Economical o Social Relevance o Ethics & Economics o Education o Owned & Regulated by the community * Is it legal to sell free software? o Sell software with the source code * Free software in India Dr. Nagarjuna G Director (Free Software Foundation, India), Academic Member (HBCSE) 10:00: GOVERNMENT INITIATIVES Dr. S. Ramakrishna, Senior Director, Ministry of IT 11:00: OPEN SOURCE ENTERPRISE SOFTWARE ARCHITECTURE * Current trends and landscape of non-proprietary software * 'Open source', 'free software', 'GNU Public license' - Explained * Industry trends in adoption of non-proprietary software in large enterprises and organization � benefits and challenges * Role of open source / non-proprietary software, including Linux, in the enterprise architecture planning in the near and medium-term future. * Defining Enterprise Architectures involving structured moves towards increasing use of non-proprietary software. * Strategies for enterprise architecture planning and experiences in adopting Linux and other non-proprietary software in complex settings * State of the industry in 'enterprise strength non-proprietary software architectures' Dr. Gautam Shroff, Head: Enterprise Architecture, TATA Consultancy Services 12:00: ENTERPRISE STRATEGIES AND CHALLENGES FOR LINUX MIGRATION 14.00: Strategies for Deploying Linux on Enterprise Servers Basant Kerketta, System Analyst The New India Assurance Co. Ltd. 14:45: LINUX IN AN ON-DEMAND ERA The emerging e-business on demand marketplace is resulting in heightened need for interoperability and standardization within the IT infrastructure that supports it. Linux shines out in this regard, because of it's unique ability to run across hardware platforms, right from embedded devices to the biggest mainframes in the business, as well as its ability to support a broad range of middleware, software and enterprise applications across the board. In this session the latest trends in Linux, as well as how it can used in various customer scenario's, to meet today's rigorous demands from cutting edge technology will be discussed Sandeep Menon, Linux Business Manager � ASEAN/SA, IBM India Ltd. 15:45 :Linux Usage in an Online Environment G.M. Shenoy, Sr. Vice President, NSE.IT 16.30 :Deploying GNU / Linux Abhijit Dasgupta, VP: IT, Times of India Group Day Two Friday, June 13, 2003 09.15: Deploying GNU / Linux in a Multi User / Multi Environment Dr. G. Sivakumar, Head: Computer Centre, IIT, Mumbai 10.00: Deploying Financial and HR applications on Linux Platform * The background under which we went in for the HR and Financial applications * WHat OS oprtions were available to us * Why we chose Linux over others * What were the concerns * How we addressed these concerns * What was�our experience with Linux implementation� (what were the issues that we faced and how we resoved them) Neeraj Bhai, CTO, IDBI Bank 11.00 State of the Dolphin Gerardo Narvaja , MySQL AB 12:00: COST EFFECTIVE SUPER COMPUTING FOR THE ENTERPRISE An alternative to traditional supercomputing is a method of linking multiple computers together to form a unified and very powerful system.. Beowulf clusters are specialized supercomputers that are gaining popularity in the technical and enterprise computing market because of their high performance at a relatively low cost * Evolution of Supercomputing * Details of Beowulf Clustering and how to select the right cluster for your application * Designing a linux cluster * Network Interconnects * Storage management * Cluster Management and Monitoring * Scalabiltiy , Reliability and Availability. * Area of Applications * Case studies on price performance gain with clusters Narayanan Subramaniam, Technical Head Benz Infotech Consultancy Services 14:00: LEGAL IMPLICATIONS OF NON-PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE * The Alternative Intellectual Property of OSS * The Legal innovation involved in Open Source Software * Legal Validity of the GPL: Is the GPL legally enforceable? * Understanding the differences between the various licensing options available within the Open Souce Movement � the Free Software v. Open Source Debate * Survey of cases / judicial developments in the area Lawrance Liang, Legal Researcher, ALF 14.45 Deploying GNU/LINUX in eGovernance N. C. Nagarjuna Reddy Officer on Special Duty IG Registration & Stamps, Govt. Of A. P. 16:00: LINUX ON THE DESKTOP Breach Candy hospital runs a totally integrated hospital information system that runs on a Linux platform for both backend and front-end operations. Mr. Desai would discuss the implementation strategies and how this has benefited the hospital. Dilip Desai, Head IT, Breach Candy Hospital 16:20 GNU / Linux Deployment for the Enterprise � Indian Scenario * Is GNU / Linux Enterprise Ready ? * Economic viability of Linux implementation for the Enterprise. * Factors to be considered before deploying Linux in organizations. * Infrastructure Requirement. * Migration Challenges - Windows to Linux * Legal aspects of GNU / Linux Service providers. * Long term and short-term financial viability. * Evaluating economic viability of desktop implementation of GNU / Linux MODERATOR: Prakash Advani, Sr. VP, Netcore Solutions Pvt. Ltd. * Dilip Desai, Head: IT, Breach Candy Hospital * Shashank Sathe, CIO, Repro India Co-Sponsors: Benz Infotech Consultancy Services Official Publications: Linux For You More information, contact: HASHIM POONAWALA T: +91-22-2828 1301 F: +91-22-2828 1305 E: hashim at marcusevansin.com

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Problems playing mp3s
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 27 May '03

27 May '03

Hi, I have mandrake 9 installed and i can listen to cda and wav format files through xmms (or any other player). But for any mpg encoded audio, i don't get error messages, just no sound. For mpg video, there's no sound. For mp3 audio, only the trackbar proceeds; no sound. I do have MPG Layer 1/2/3 plugin on my system, so that probably isn't the problem. mpg version is 1.2.7 (If that should help) Siddhesh.

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[ILUG-BOM] [OT][Commercial] Seminar on Enterprise Gnu-Linux implementatiion
by Trevor Warren 27 May '03

27 May '03

Hello Luggers, ENTERPRISE GNU / LINUX IMPLEMENTATION Hotel ITC Grand Maratha Sheraton, Mumbai June 12 & 13, 2003 Day One Thursday, June 12, 2003 More information, contact: HASHIM POONAWALA T: +91-22-2828 1301 F: +91-22-2828 1305 E: hashim(a)marcusevansin.com For Details on the contents of the workshop please check attachment below. PN: I personally am just forwarding this mail to help the organisers out. For any queries please get in touch with the requisite authorities as mentioned. Trevor -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor(a)clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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DOC-SHOP Review TODAY
by PUKAR Monsoon 27 May '03

27 May '03

Dear Friends: PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research) invites you to the DOC-SHOP Review -- a series of student presentations followed by a two-hour panel discussion on archiving and documentation with ASHISH RAJADHYAKSHA, C.S. LAKSHMI and MADHUSHREE DATTA. This Review is the concluding event in the PUKAR Monsoon DOC-SHOP, a five-day workshop for undergraduate students held from 19-23 May 2003 at PUKAR. For more information about the DOC-SHOP, see http://www.pukar.org.in/doc-shop/index.html. The panel discussion will feature the following speakers: ASHISH RAJADHYAKSHA is Senior Fellow of the Centre for the Study of Culture & Society (CSCS), Bangalore (http://www.cscsban.org), and was the editor of the Encyclopaedia of Indian Cinema (1999). He is an active member of the editorial collective of the Journal of Arts and Ideas, and is a regular contributor to Framework and to Sight & Sound. He has written the book Ritwik Ghatak: A Return to the Epic (1983), was Editor, The Sad and Glad of Kishore Kumar (Research Centre for Cinema Studies, 1988); was Editor, with Amrit Gangar, of Ghatak : Arguments/Stories (Screen Unit/Research Centre for Cinema Studies, 1987). He is currently coordinating the CSCS Media Archive (http://www.cscsban.org/html/media_archive.htm). He was co-curator, with Geeta Kapur, of the exhibition Bombay/Mumbai 1992-2001, part of the exhibition Century City: Art and Culture in the Modern Metropolis, at the Tate Modern, London, 2001. C.S. LAKSHMI is the Founding Trustee and Director of SPARROW (Sound and Picture Archives for Research on Women), Mumbai (http://www.sparrrowonline.org). She writes fiction in Tamil under the pseudonym Ambai, and her translated stories have been published in a collection called A Purple Sea (Manas, 1997). She has been a researcher in women's studies for thirty years, and has authored The Singer and the Song: Conversations with Women Musicians (Kali for Women, 2000), the first in a three-volume oral history series called Seven Seas and Seven Mountains, with detailed interviews with fifty notable women in the arts in India. She is also the author of The Face Behind the Mask: Women in Tamil Literature (Stosius/Advent Books, 1984). MADHUSHREE DATTA has been making non-fiction and documentary films since 1993. Her first film was "I Live in Behrampada" (1993), on the Bombay riots in 1992-1993. She has since made eight films on diverse themes such as performance and female impersonation in "Sundari: An Actor Prepares", on visual cultures in "Made in India", on young girls growing up in "Memories of Fear", on the 12th century bhakti poet Mahadevi Akka in "Scribbles on Akka", and on sexuality and girl trafficking in "Ailo Bailo Sailo". She has written extensively on the politics of facts, and is presently working on a multi-part film on the mega-metropolis of Mumbai. She is a Founder Member and is the Executive Director of Majlis, Mumbai, a centre for multicultural initiatives. Date: TUESDAY 27 MAY 2003 Time: 5.00 P.M. to 7.00 P.M. Presentations from the PUKAR Monsoon DOC-SHOP 7.00 P.M. to 9.00 P.M. Panel Discussion on Archiving and Documentation At: PUKAR c/o Aragon Services 4th Floor, Kitab Mahal Dr Dadabhai Naoroji Road Mumbai 400001 Kitab Mahal is next to New Excelsior Cinema, and is near VT Station. Entrance to Kitab Mahal is from the New Book Company on Dadabhai Naoroji Road. _____ PUKAR (Partners for Urban Knowledge Action & Research) P.O. Box 5627, Dadar, Mumbai 400014, INDIA E-Mail <mailto:secretariat@pukar.org.in> Phone +91 (022) 2207 7779, +91 98200 45529, +91 98204 04010 Web Site http://www.pukar.org.in

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[Announce] Ayttm 0.3.1 has been released!
by Philip S Tellis 26 May '03

26 May '03

Ayttm 0.3.1 is out. Well, it is since a few days but i hadn't time to do the announcement mail. You can download it as usual on the website: http://ayttm.sf.net/files.shtml What's new in this release ? - Multiple accounts per service are now supported by the core. Modules need to be updated to allow this, so far this has been done for MSN and Yahoo. - We now use pspell library instead of ispell (better integration, less resources used). - Everybuddy settings and contact list now have an importer. - Font is now fully specificable - You're warned when typing messages when away - Yahoo! module supports Webcam viewing - Smiley themer (new module) remembers the last selected theme and is far more easy to use than the previous system. - Aycryption (new module) lets you exchange GPG signed and/or encrypted messages with your contacts (using ayttm or another pgp-enabled client, maybe Gaim?) - "Mail notify script" is implemented in MSN And the usual bugfixes: - Code cleanups :) - make dependency tracking fixed (CVS users will be happy to be able to avoid the 'make clean' ;-)) - Crash handler now works without getoptlong - MSN connection failing without warning has been fixed - configure didn't allow to --enable-smtp

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[ILUG-BOM] [ot][jobs][commercial][Fwd: [ilug-goa] Job Position Available]
by Trevor Warren 26 May '03

26 May '03

-----Forwarded Message----- From: Mario Alvares - AlienWiz <mario(a)alienwiz.com> To: csi-goa(a)yahoogroups.com Cc: ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com Subject: [ilug-goa] Job Position Available Date: 26 May 2003 17:19:54 +0530 Hi All, We have a requirement for one Php Developer at Porvorim. We are in the business of e-commerce web development, website design, software development and Linux web hosting. http://www.alienwiz.com & http://www.alienwebhost.com The following are ESSENTIAL: Knowledge of using the Internet and email. Knowledge and experience coding in HTML, PHP, MySQL & Postgres Strong English communication skills both verbal and written (for documentation) Self Motivated & determined The following are NOT (but would be preferred): Linux server administration Action Scripting Job responsibilities will include coding, documentation and testing. Preference will be given to those in/around Porvorim, Panijm or Mapusa. Email resume with detailed past project development experience, references and hobbies in either doc, rtf, pdf, html or txt to mario(a)alienwiz.com with subject "PHP Developer" Phone enquiries will NOT be entertained. Best regards, Mario Mario Alvares [www.alvares.info] Software Consultant - Software Solutions [www.alienwiz.com] ======================================================= http://www.ALIENWebHost.com http://www.Goenkar.com http://www.travelgoa.com http://www.patrao.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/0XFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To Post a message, send it to: ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: ilug-goa-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevor(a)clovertechnologies.com __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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[Announce] msnp.py: MSN messaging in Python
by Manish Jethani 25 May '03

25 May '03

http://msnp.sourceforge.net/ msnp.py is an implementation of the latest MSN Messenger protocol (currently, version 7) in object-oriented Python. Current Release: v0.2 v0.2 Features * Login; logout * Presence states (online, away, etc.) * Syncing of friend lists * Chat conversations (start, join, leave) * Instant messages * Typing notifications * HTTP proxy (tunnelling) support -- Manish Jethani (manish.j at gmx.net) phone (work) +91-80-51073488

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[OT] Artificial Intelligence game
by Pranav Joshi 24 May '03

24 May '03

this is a very interesting online game based on 20 questions.. the game AI is very powerful and guesses the correct answer most of the times. it's fun when you beat the computer.. http://y.20q.net:8095/btest?jRO3lPlkXCyHJOp1E7X1O8ZYIv best of luck pranav __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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[offtopic][commercial][jobs]Oracle DBA + developers
by Trevor Warren 23 May '03

23 May '03

Hello Linuxers, good-day. There are some core Oracle + D2k requirements. Get in touch with epaul(a)redhat.com if someone's interested or if you have anyone who has core expertise in the above domains. Have a nice day all. Trevor -----Forwarded Message----- From: Elizabeth Paul <epaul(a)redhat.com> To: trevor(a)clovertechnologies.com Subject: Re: Date: 22 May 2003 12:52:26 +0530 Dear Trevor Clover Requirements...... I know you can help...... 1. Oracle DBA - with about 2 - 4 years experience. Compensation - Rs. 18,000/- Rs. 20,000/-. 2. Oracle Developer for D2K - 2 - 4 years experience Compensation - Rs. 20,000/- - Rs. 22,000/-. Liz -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevorwarren(a)softhome.net __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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[Commercial] Red Hat 9.0
by joel_divekar 22 May '03

22 May '03

(Correction - Sorry for the inconvenience) Hi All We are official Red Hat Channel Partner (not distributor as mentioned in our earlier mail) and have following packs in stock Red Hat Linux 9 (Personal) Rs 2200/- Red Hat Linux 9 Professional Rs 8250/- Red Hat Enterprise Linux - ES Standard Rs 39500/- Red Hat Enterprise Linux - AS Standard CALL Red Hat Enterprise Linux - AS Premium CALL (Please contact for more details on older versions) Regards Joel / Hozefa AMAFHH 9820533294 / 9820154122 Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now !

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[ILUG-BOM] [OT] [ACM] Streamlining XML for data-intensive applications
by Philip S Tellis 22 May '03

22 May '03

ACM Seminar - Streamlining XML for data-intensive applications Friday, May 23, 2003 - 6:30 p.m. Speaker: Tahir N. Hashmi Venue: Lecture Theatre, NCST, Juhu (http://www.ncst.ernet.in/contactus/) Abstract: eXtensible Markup Language (XML) has quickly gained acceptance as a platform and application independent grammar for marshalling data as well as structuring documents for further processing or presentation. As more and more sectors find XML beneficial, most notably the Web Services Architecture, the overly verbose syntax of XML and complicated rules for handling markup and character data begin to approach their limits. This seminar showcases some of the most notable efforts done to overcome these problems. About the Speaker: Tahir Hashmi works in the DAKE (Data and Knowledge Engineering) Division of NCST. He is a Technology graduate in Chemical Engineering from AMU. Tahir is a Free Software user/promoter and Linux geek. His areas of interest include Systems Programming and Application Developm

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Review of Sharity/light
by Sthitaprajna 22 May '03

22 May '03

Hi HAs anyone used this on a multi-OS environment- how well does it perform? http://www.obdev.at/products/sharity/index.html thanks

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[Commercial] Red Hat Linux 9.0
by joel_divekar 21 May '03

21 May '03

Hi We are official Red Hat Linux distributors and have following packs in stock Red Hat Linux 9 (Personal) Rs 2200/- Red Hat Linux 9 Professional Rs 8250/- Red Hat Enterprise Linux - ES Standard Rs 39500/- Red Hat Enterprise Linux - AS Standard CALL Red Hat Enterprise Linux - AS Premium CALL (Please contact for more details on older versions) Regards Joel / Hozefa AMAFHH 9820533294 / 9820154122 Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now !

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[ILUG-BOM] [Fwd: [ilug-goa] Microsoft Exec took aim at Linux Worldwide , Memo reveals]
by Trevor Warren 20 May '03

20 May '03

-----Forwarded Message----- From: Praveen Kamat <praveenkamat(a)yahoo.co.uk> To: ilug <ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com> Subject: [ilug-goa] Microsoft Exec took aim at Linux Worldwide , Memo reveals Date: 18 May 2003 23:25:42 +0530 MICROSOFT EXEC TOOK AIM AT LINUX WORLDWIDE, MEMO REVEALS http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/5864506.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/uetFAA/0XFolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To Post a message, send it to: ilug-goa(a)yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: ilug-goa-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevorwarren(a)softhome.net __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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Web Server behind proxy (IPtables problem)
by Varun(Red Hat Certified) 20 May '03

20 May '03

I am preparing a webserver which will work behind a proxy. For this I am using IPtables. The Internal proxy address is 192.168.0.12 The External proxy address is 203.199.111.24 The Webserver address is 192.168.0.14 The code for iptables is given below. My problem is that the website is working when I access it from the internal network despite the fact that there is no DNS for any machines except the proxy. But when I access it from putside the network there is no reply /* Code in iptables */ PROXY_EXTERNAL=203.199.111.24 PROXY_INTERNAL=192.168.0.12 WEB_ADDR=192.168.0.14 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING --dst $PROXY_INTERNAL -p tcp --dport 21 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:21 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING --dst $PROXY_INTERNAL -p udp --dport 21 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:21 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING --dst $PROXY_INTERNAL -p tcp --dport 20 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:20 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING --dst $PROXY_INTERNAL -p udp --dport 20 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:20 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING --dst $PROXY_EXTERNAL -p tcp --dport 21 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:21 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING --dst $PROXY_EXTERNAL -p udp --dport 21 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:21 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING --dst $PROXY_EXTERNAL -p tcp --dport 20 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:20 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING --dst $PROXY_EXTERNAL -p udp --dport 20 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:20 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp --dst $PROXY_INTERNAL --dport 20 -j SNAT --to-source $WEB_ADDR:20 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p udp --dst $PROXY_INTERNAL --dport 20 -j SNAT --to-source $WEB_ADDR:20 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp --dst $PROXY_INTERNAL --dport 21 -j SNAT --to-source $WEB_ADDR:21 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p udp --dst $PROXY_INTERNAL --dport 21 -j SNAT --to-source $WEB_ADDR:21 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp --dst $PROXY_EXTERNAL --dport 20 -j SNAT --to-source $WEB_ADDR:20 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p udp --dst $PROXY_EXTERNAL --dport 20 -j SNAT --to-source $WEB_ADDR:20 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp --dst $PROXY_EXTERNAL --dport 21 -j SNAT --to-source $WEB_ADDR:21 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p udp --dst $PROXY_EXTERNAL --dport 21 -j SNAT --to-source $WEB_ADDR:21 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT --dst $PROXY_INTERNAL -p tcp --dport 20 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:20 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT --dst $PROXY_INTERNAL -p udp --dport 20 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:20 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT --dst $PROXY_INTERNAL -p tcp --dport 20 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:21 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT --dst $PROXY_INTERNAL -p udp --dport 21 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:21 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT --dst $PROXY_EXTERNAL -p tcp --dport 20 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:20 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT --dst $PROXY_EXTERNAL -p udp --dport 20 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:20 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT --dst $PROXY_EXTERNAL -p tcp --dport 21 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:21 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT --dst $PROXY_EXTERNAL -p udp --dport 21 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEB_ADDR:21 ===== Linux is user-friendly, it is just picky who its friends are If GNU/Linux doesn't have the solution, you have the wrong problem mailto: varunop(a)yahoo.com website: http://varunop.blogspot.com Unix is very simple, Only it takes a genius to simplify it __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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How to ftp through the Proxy.
by Vinod Bhaskar 20 May '03

20 May '03

Hi friends, I have a DSL (DISHNET) connection and I had set up a proxy server (Jana) in the machine which the DSL line is connected. Now for the browsing there is no problem from other machines which are in LAN. This I had done it by re-directing the broswer by puting the IP address of the proxy server. Now I want to do ftp from my machine using ncftp through the proxy server to our web location www.xyz.com from my machine. I want to do command line operations like ncftpget and ncftpput, which had set in crontab. How to configure my machine to do the same. Please guide me. Regrds, Vinod.

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[Announce] libyahoo2 version 0.7.0 released
by Philip S Tellis 20 May '03

20 May '03

Version 0.7 of libyahoo2 has just been released. Get it from http://libyahoo2.sourceforge.net/ This release includes major feature enhancements, hence the bump in minor version number. New features include: - Webcam support - viewing and broadcasting - Yahoo Chatrooms Improved features: - All calls to connect can now be asynchronous, ie, they can return immediately and make a call to the registered callback function when the connect completes. This will improve response on slow links. (If anyone knows how to do asynchronouse DNS lookups (single-threaded app), please let me know). Also bugfixes and some internal changes. The API has changed, so please read the README and the two primary header files - yahoo2.h and yahoo2_callbacks.h As usual, report bugs on the website. Philip

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Microsoft Licences UNIX OS from SCO
by Amish Munshi 20 May '03

20 May '03

Greetings, Refer to page 17 ot Times of India. It mentions about MIcrosoft Licensing UNIX os from SCO. Bye. -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust.

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Matrix Reloaded Nmap/ssh crc32 Picture
by Pranav Joshi 20 May '03

20 May '03

--- ranjeet(a)nttindia.com wrote: > > Hello. > > Trinity actually used nmap to portscan a computer > and then launches a > program to attempt exploiting SSHv1 CRC32 > Finally Hollywood is coming out of the stupid concept flash based hacking.. here's the actual picture from the movie LINK http://www.geocities.com/merciless_messiah/nmap-matrix2log.jpg Happy sploiting pranav __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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Re [ILUG-BOM] Confusion... Internet Speed
by Abhijeet D Mhatre 19 May '03

19 May '03

Hi, >I am confused about internet speeds and download speeds. >I guess (please correct) a 56 KBPs modem allows a maximum inflow(&outflow!) >of 56 KiloBits ps of data between 2 computers. >But still most(or all?) ISPs in Mumbai offer download speeds(the thing that >u see in the browser downloader or a download manager) is only 5KBPs. >So when we here about Broadband Internet of 1MBPs or 128 KBPs...what are the >actual download speeds? >Why dont all the people refer to actual download speed rather than the max >transfer speeds while referring to their connection? >Please Help! >Thanking in advance, >Hrushikesh Tilak. V90 Modems allow 56 Kbps which is 7KBps bps = bits per sec Bps = bytes per sec The browser usually displays speed in bytes per sec which is about 2-5 KBps usually Actual download speed is not a constant and varies with the no of users logged in. So it cant be mentioned. Acually some sort of statistical quantity should be mentioned. -- Regards Abhijeet D Mhatre Address: 2/19 Shivanand society, Playground cross road, Vileparle (East), Mumbai 400057 Tel: 91-22-26148990/26155144 Email: abhijeetmhatre(a)gmx.net

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Confusion... Internet Speeds.
by Hrushikesh Tilak 19 May '03

19 May '03

Hi, I am confused about internet speeds and download speeds. I guess (please correct) a 56 KBPs modem allows a maximum inflow(&outflow!) of 56 KiloBits ps of data between 2 computers. But still most(or all?) ISPs in Mumbai offer download speeds(the thing that u see in the browser downloader or a download manager) is only 5KBPs. So when we here about Broadband Internet of 1MBPs or 128 KBPs...what are the actual download speeds? Why dont all the people refer to actual download speeds rather than the max transfer speeds while referring to their connection? Please Help! Thanking in advance, Hrushikesh Tilak. _________________________________________________________________ Win a PC. Every 15 days! http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/hclbeanstalktour/index.asp Just take this quiz.

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Commercial - Contract - Mumbai
by Shilpi K. Kedia 19 May '03

19 May '03

Hi, I am looking for a subject matter expert on the topic Sendmail. The person should be well versed with the configuring and installation and troubleshooting for sendmail. The person would be required to work with us for a few hours a week and would have to check the accuracy of the content that is written by the writers. Please get in touch with me if you are interested in this opportunity. Regards Shilpi K. Kedia Net Systems Solutions Tel : 91-22-56926874/75 Mobile : 9820504608 Email : shilpi.k(a)n-syst.com Website: http://www.n-syst.com

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Microsoft to license Unix code
by Sthitaprajna 19 May '03

19 May '03

http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-1007528.html Hilarious?

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Starcom Software expertise in LINUX Server.
by Ajay Sharma 18 May '03

18 May '03

Dear all, We are a five year old software company based at India specialised into: * Network infrastructure setup, management and consultancy and security and system integrity. * Network infrastructure support and managed operations services. * Web application development and web infrastructure setup. * Business process design and application design . We are launching a Product called MANUS (Manager of a Network Unix Server).It is a Comphrensive software solution which allows system administrator to handle the integrated management of a network of servers across the enterprise using a single web-based console. MANUS manages all common network services includes file & print,email,web proxy services,Usenet News(NNTP),address book directories(LDAP),and many more.For more information you can visit http://manus.starcomsoftware.com Brief features of Network Monitoring:- a)Monitor capacity utilisation of key resources eg.lease lines,server CPU loads etc., and tackle capacity planning in a scientific manner with quantitative data. b)Monitor the health of key network resources in real time,and raise alarms when attributes fall outside acceptable boundaries,eg.traffic on a leased line crosses 90% of capacity c)Get daily, weekly and monthly reports,consolidated and pre-user,about usage of the key services. Partial List of our well known Clients are as follows: i) National Stock Exchange of India Ltd ii) The National Securities Depository of India Ltd iii)Mahindra British Telecom Ltd iv) A Petrochemicals major in the Private sector v) Zodiac group of Garments exporters vi) Homeindia, India's online retailing trend-setter vii)The Indian Express Newspaper groups viii) ICICI ix) S.Kumar's Online Ltd,nation-wide e-commerce venture x) Amarchand and Mangaldas and suresh A.Shroff and company,India's most reputed law firm. pls find enclosed our company profile along with our vital accomplishments. Pls reply me for any requirement. Regards, Ajay Sharma. Starcom Software Pvt Ltd.

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kernel recompilation problem
by chandan kumar 18 May '03

18 May '03

Respected Sir, I have same problem that you have faced in recompilation of the kernel. So, kindly tell me how you removed that problem. Thank You. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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Mailman udpated
by Nagarjuna G. 18 May '03

18 May '03

Due to some unknown problems which could not be fixed with the old version, I decided to upgrade mailman to 2.1 version. This version seems to be more feature rich particularly for the administrators. During this repairing period all the messages posted were delivered yesterday early morning. Please let me know if you are facing any recent problems. this will help us to keep mailman working better. If any of you know mailman very well and are willing to coordinate with me the lists, please come forward. Thanks for your cooperation. Nagarjuna

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test
by Nagarjuna G. 17 May '03

17 May '03

Please ignore! Nagarjuna

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OT : News Article on various Linux Distros
by Saswata Banerjee & Associates 16 May '03

16 May '03

Study: SuSE leads in Linux improvements Linux has improved significantly in the last two years, a new study released Thursday has found, with a version from SuSE edging out that of rival Red Hat in the businesses features race. Since D.H. Brown Associates last reviewed Linux, versions of the operating system from SuSE and Red Hat have moved from "OK" to "good." Debian made a bigger leap, from "weak" to "good," but still lags the other two versions. May 15, 2003, 10:42 AM PT | Read Full Story http://cl.com.com/Click?q=95-Xd_rQvddoeVatrOY_nyVUWnt0iK5 Regards Saswata

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SCO's lawsuit...
by Matthew, Anu 16 May '03

16 May '03

Greetings Luggers, http://infoworld.com/article/03/05/15/HNscowarns_1.html What do you think about that? Personally I think that this would only *attempt* to tarnish Linux's image in the corporate world, and divert the real benefits to M$. ~Anu Mathew For those who cannot acccess internet: --------------------------------------------------------- SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) - The SCO Group, which owns key components of the Unix operating system, has sent letters to Linux customers claiming the software is an "unauthorized derivative" of its property. The letters, which were sent earlier this week to companies around the world, warned that commercial users of Linux may face legal liability for using the operating system without a license from SCO. The move follows the filing of a $1 billion lawsuit in March against International Business Machines Corp. for allegedly taking bits of Unix code and transferring them to Linux. IBM dismissed the lawsuit as unfounded. If the latest tactic is successful, it could undermine a tenet of the Linux movement, which has been growing in large part because of the software's very low cost and freedom from the hassles of proprietary software, such as Microsoft Corp. (MSFT)'s Windows. But even if SCO fails to convince Linux users to pay for licenses, it has raised fear, uncertainty and doubt - or "FUD" - about Linux and whether end users can be held liable if other portions are found to be what amounts to stolen property. "When SCO's own UNIX software code is being illegally copied into Linux, we believe we have an obligation to educate commercial users of the potential liability that could rest with them for using such software to run their business," Chris Sontag, a SCO senior vice president, said Wednesday. Lindon, Utah-based SCO acquired control of Unix intellectual property from Novell, which had bought the rights in 1992 from AT&T. AT&T's Bell Laboratories created Unix for minicomputers in the late 1960s and commercialized it in the 1980s. Linux, a Unix derivative first developed in the early 1990s by Finnish college student Linus Torvalds, has in recent years gained in popularity because of its low cost, reliability and ability to run on inexpensive computer hardware. In an e-mail interview Wednesday, Torvalds said he has not heard what components of Linux might be infringing. "I'd dearly love to hear exactly - what - they think is infringing, but they haven't told anybody," he said. "Oh, well. They seem to be more interested in FUD than anything else." SCO also announced it was pulling its own version of Linux, which may be significant because it was distributed under the same license as other versions. That license allows for the free redistribution of the software. "I suspect the current letter is because their lawyers finally noticed that as long as they ship Linux, they are themselves bound by the license under which it ships," Torvalds said. Some observers believe SCO sued IBM in an effort to be bought - a charge SCO denies. SCO's stock price has nearly doubled since it filed the lawsuit, said Bruce Perens, an open-source software advocate and consultant. He said he believes it's a tactic of SCO's investors to recoup their investment. "They don't care who or what they hurt," he said. Darl McBride, SCO's chief executive, said the company is not trying to find a buyer but rather informing users of the problem. He said most Linux distributors leave their customers liable. "Everyone is protected except the users," he said. "We're trying to alert users there are these problems. We're trying to do this in a favorable fashion. ... The hot potato is being passed. We're trying to keep them from being burned."

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phone answering s/w
by Niyant 16 May '03

16 May '03

hello, until i was using windows, i used to run some "phone answering/ message recording" softwares like "supervoice". is any1 here using any such s/w on linux? thanx, ny -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Opera 7 rocks !!! www.opera.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Interest from North Mumbai
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 16 May '03

16 May '03

Kunal is a GNU/Linux fan who is keen to start some activity in North Mumbai. His phone number is (250) 251 2210 Currently, Kunal has a lot of questions -- how should a LUG keep busy, what are suitable activities at a meeting, how to keep a group active? In view of the concentration of Linuxers activities in South Mumbai, would it be possible for veterans of this list to encourage Kunal and team to set up a LUG for the northern suburbs? Our experience in Goa suggests that launching new LUGs in the more remote areas encourages a whole lot of others -- who would have not got otherwise involved -- to get involved with Free Software. FN -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick Noronha (FN) | http://www.fredericknoronha.net Freelance Journalist | http://www.bytesforall.org http://goalinks.pitas.com | http://joingoanet.shorturl.com http://linuxinindia.pitas.com | http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks ------------------------------------------------------------------------- T: 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 M: 0 9822 122436 -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux-On-CD service
by Clinton Goveas 15 May '03

15 May '03

Royce (bethell(a)eth.net), I hope this mail gets through to you Royce, as I have tried 5 times to send you mail (twice through this list), but all attempts have so far failed. When I try sending you mail directly, my SMTP server gets back with the following response: 5/14/2003 10:26:46 PM - ( 13) MAIL FROM: <info(a)clintongoveas.com> 5/14/2003 10:26:46 PM - ( 13) 250 Sender "info(a)clintongoveas.com" OK... 5/14/2003 10:26:46 PM - ( 13) RCPT TO: <bethell(a)eth.net> 5/14/2003 10:26:46 PM - ( 13) 250 Connection from trusted IP address. Recipient OK 5/14/2003 10:26:46 PM - ( 13) DATA 5/14/2003 10:26:46 PM - ( 13) 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself 5/14/2003 10:26:46 PM - ( 13) 250 Message accepted for delivery. 5/14/2003 10:26:46 PM - [ 14] Delivering to bethell(a)eth.net 5/14/2003 10:26:46 PM - [ 14] Attempting to deliver to the domain eth.net 5/14/2003 10:26:48 PM - ( 13) QUIT 5/14/2003 10:26:48 PM - ( 13) 221 Aba he 5/14/2003 10:26:48 PM - SMTP connection with xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ended. ID=13 5/14/2003 10:27:41 PM - [ 14] DNS Error: Domain server failure. Will bounce back Since you are in Mumbai you can contact me at 022 28443323. All these details and more are on the site if you care to visit. The URL is given below. Can someone pass this on to Royce if possible? Regards, Clinton Goveas http://www.clintongoveas.com --- DistantHost.com Founding Circle http://www.distanthost.com

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[ILUG-BOM] Re: Linuxers -- confirmation of subscription -- request 962108
by amit saini 15 May '03

15 May '03

--- linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: > Linuxers -- confirmation of subscription -- request > 962108 > > We have received a request from 210.214.202.205 for > subscription of > your email address, <amit_saini77(a)yahoo.com>, to the > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in mailing list. To > confirm the request, > please send a message to > linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in, and > either: > > - maintain the subject line as is (the reply's > additional "Re:" is > ok), > > - or include the following line - and only the > following line - in the > message body: > > confirm 962108 > > (Simply sending a 'reply' to this message should > work from most email > interfaces, since that usually leaves the subject > line in the right > form.) > > If you do not wish to subscribe to this list, please > simply disregard > this message. Send questions to linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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Linux-on-CD service.
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 15 May '03

15 May '03

Hi, Does anyone know the status of Clinton Goveas' Linux-on CD service? It was due to resume sometime now. I sent him a mail re. Mandrake 9.1, but got no reply... thanks, --Royce.

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Linux-on-CD service
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 14 May '03

14 May '03

Hi, Does any one know the status of Clinton Goveas' Linux-on-CD service? I sent him a mail a couple of days back re. Mandrake 9.1 CD, but got no reply. I know his CD writer was down, but the service was due to resume around the 10th May. BTW I have a CD writer in my PC at office if its any help to him. Clinton are you around? :) Thanks, --Royce.

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[Help] LTSP & X-Windows
by OSP 14 May '03

14 May '03

Hi, I am trying to implement LTSP alongside a Windows 2000 Server. Have been successful partially but when it comes to X-Windows, the resoultion of the interface is blurred and thereon cannot do anything further... Could anybody just guide me the way out of this...??? Thanx n' Regards, Ash

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Test
by Nagarjuna G. 14 May '03

14 May '03

Test mail please ignore! Admin

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[Fwd: [PRC] Urgent - PHP/MySQL and Linux Sys Admin - Bangalore,India]
by Trevor Warren 14 May '03

14 May '03

-----Forwarded Message----- From: Hari Das <hari(a)marlabs.com> To: marlabsindia(a)yahoogroups.com Subject: [PRC] Urgent - PHP/MySQL and Linux Sys Admin - Bangalore,India Date: 13 May 2003 16:30:39 +0530 > Dear Friends > > Greetings from Hari. > Marlabs Inc. ( www.marlabs.com) , ( An INC 500 Company , A D&T National > Fast 500 Company ) , is looking for the following professionals in Open > Source Technologies: > 1. Experienced PHP / MySQL programmers with knowledge of Java ( Sun > ) Technologies > 2. Linux System Administrator > Location : Bangalore, India > Both the above positions need more than 2 years' hands on experience in > relevant areas. > Eligible candidates may send in their latest Resume with the following > details before 14 th May 2003 to hari(a)marlabs.com, , with "Open Source" as > subject > i. Date of Birth > ii. Present Salary > iii. Time required to relocate to Bangalore, if selected > iv. Contact telephone / cell numbers > > You are invited to visit http://hosting.marlabs.com to know more about our > practice in open source and web hosting. > Thanking you in advance. > Regards > Hari > > www.marlabs.com > > -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevorwarren(a)softhome.net __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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what is Venue of next Lug meet. Help for Project.
by vishal varange 13 May '03

13 May '03

Hello Luggers, This is my first mail. I am new to linux. I have few queries please hel p me in solving them. 1) when is the next lug meet ? and Where is it? Could somebody please direct me how to reach the venue. I stay at Nerul, Navi Mumbai. 2) I am an Engineering Student (T.E. Computers) and would like to do my final year project on Linux Platform. Could somebody please suggest any firms where I may approach, or else suggest any topic for the project work. Any suggestion is welcome. Thanking you in advance. --Vishal __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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[Help ] LTSP: X-Windows configuration
by Optimal Solutions 13 May '03

13 May '03

Hi folks, I am trying to get LTSP implemented alongwith a Windows Server. LTSP on the client works properly but when it comes to X-Windows the resolution gets blurred and thereon nothing further can be done. Could anybody plz help me out ??? Thanx n' Regards, Aishwarya _________________________________________________________________ Attention Taureans! See what's in store. http://server1.msn.co.in/features/taurus/index.asp Read on.

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Linux-on-CD service
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 13 May '03

13 May '03

Hi, Does any one know the status of Clinton Goveas' Linux-on-CD service? I sent him a mail a couple of days back re. Mandrake 9.1 CD, but got no reply. I know his CD writer was down, but the service was due to resume around the 10th May. BTW I have a CD writer in my PC at office if its any help to him. Clinton are you around? :) Thanks, --Royce.

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[joke] [OT] Our market share is falling...
by Manish Jethani 13 May '03

13 May '03

(Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental :-) ) Bill: Our market share is falling, what can we do? Ballmer: [Sweating]Improve our products?[Still Sweating] Bill: Don't be ridiculous, if Windows was secure then we wouldn't be able to charge for bug fixes, [not that our software is buggy of course] Ballmer: [Shirt now navy blue]We could take the old standby[Shirt now very dark navy blue] Bill: Aha - [to voice activated Windows box]Bring in the lawyers![Windows BSODs] [To voice activated Linux box] Bring in the lawyers! [Lawyers arrive] Bill: I want Linux to be made illegal Ballmer: [Shirt now dissolving in acidic sweat] Developers! Developers! Developers! Bill: Not now Steve! Lawyers: This will cost you Bill, bribery is very expensive these days. Bill: Nah! - I ran an audit check on the US govt. they haven't complied with the MS Windows Server 2003 EULA clause 0203432448 (You hereby agree that All your base are belong to MS) Lawyers: It shall be done oh fabulously wealthy one! [US Govt. declares Finland a terrorist state, wages violent war, Linus Torvolds writes a quick kernel update then goes into hiding] ... to be continued.

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RedHat Linux 9 >> Free or not?
by Hrushikesh Tilak 13 May '03

13 May '03

I just want to know whether RH Linux 9 is free or not? Because I read about some activation thing on their site. Also why do the ISO's on the FTP sites start with shrike? Should I download the 3 ISO's or should I stick with my present OS ( PCQLinux 8.0)? Is the new linux worth downloading(3 iso images...1.72 GB...about 17 hours!!!)? Please Repsond Thanking You, Hrushikesh Tilak. _________________________________________________________________ What is SARS? Find out! http://server1.msn.co.in/completecoverage/sars/ Be informed.

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Where is the next GLUG meet?
by Kapil Karekar 11 May '03

11 May '03

hi luggers :)) Where is the next GLUG meet? Don't look at me ... I have no clue :P happy hacking !! Kapil

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[ILUG-BOM] Re: Linuxers -- confirmation of subscription -- request 513360
by Gurudev 11 May '03

11 May '03

On Thu, May 01, 2003 at 04:33:44PM +0530, linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: > Linuxers -- confirmation of subscription -- request 513360 > > We have received a request from 202.141.152.2 for subscription of your > email address, <gurudev(a)sdf.lonestar.org>, to the > linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in mailing list. To confirm the request, > please send a message to linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in, and > either: > > - maintain the subject line as is (the reply's additional "Re:" is > ok), > > - or include the following line - and only the following line - in the > message body: > > confirm 513360 > > (Simply sending a 'reply' to this message should work from most email > interfaces, since that usually leaves the subject line in the right > form.) > > If you do not wish to subscribe to this list, please simply disregard > this message. Send questions to linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in. -- gurudev(a)sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

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Using windows server as a gateway
by Adi 10 May '03

10 May '03

Hi, Our windows server is connected by leased line to the internet. I want our linux servers to access this machine for DNS as well as internet traffic. No I cannot use squid or linux as the gateway since the company requires the exchange server hosted on the widows server. Any solution pointers ? -Adi www.roamware.com

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Free/open source developer survey
by G. Sivakumar 10 May '03

10 May '03

I'm forwarding below a request for inputs from developers in India to the survey at the URL below http://siepr.stanford.edu/programs/OpenSoftware_David/FLOSS-US_announcement… being conducted by some researchers at Stanford Univ. with best wishes, Siva. (siva(a)iitb.ac.in) === request ============= From: Seema Arora Subject: Your help with open source developer survey >>>Dear Prof. Sarda: >>>We are researchers at Stanford University who have designed a survey >>>that aims to understand the open source way of producing software. This >>>work is being undertaken by the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy >>>Research and is being funded by the National Science Foundation. I am >>>writing to seek your help in announcing the survey amongst IIT Bombay >>>students and faculty who might be participants in the development of >>>open source software. I have written individually to linux coordinators >>>in India but it would be extremely useful to get the representation from >>>IITs. So far, representation from India has been very low. We are hoping >>>that with increased visibility of the survey announcement, we would be >>>able to attract more respondents from India and hence study specifics >>>relating to India. >>> >>>Please help us generate interest and responses at the site below. I >>>would really appreciate if you could direct this email to the >>>appropriate groups within IIT Bombay and other appropriate contacts who >>>might be contributors to the open source movement. >> >>>The survey is meant for open source developers and can be found at >>>http://siepr.stanford.edu/programs/OpenSoftware_David/FLOSS-US_announcement… >> >>Thanks in advance for your help. >>>Regards >>>Seema

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[ILUG-BOM] Re: Linuxers -- confirmation of subscription -- request 200166
by walter demello 10 May '03

10 May '03

confirm 200166 linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote:Linuxers -- confirmation of subscription -- request 200166 We have received a request from 202.149.217.154 for subscription of your email address, , to the linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in mailing list. To confirm the request, please send a message to linuxers-request(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in, and either: - maintain the subject line as is (the reply's additional "Re:" is ok), - or include the following line - and only the following line - in the message body: confirm 200166 (Simply sending a 'reply' to this message should work from most email interfaces, since that usually leaves the subject line in the right form.) If you do not wish to subscribe to this list, please simply disregard this message. Send questions to linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

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mandrake 9.1 isos
by Sthitaprajna 09 May '03

09 May '03

Hi Can someone burn me a set of Mandrake 9.1 isos and get 'em to the next LUG meet? Or if a cd-rw is available at the HBSCE, should i get cd-rs and burn a set for myself? Hope to meet some of the people at my first LUG meet.. cheers

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Linux
by dhiraj tuteja 09 May '03

09 May '03

Sir, I have installed Red Hat Linux version 8.0(pscyche) But I am still having some problems: 1. I have an internal modem and linux is unable to detect it. As it was mentioned in the latest edition edition of linuxforu magazine I tried using KPPP software for configuring internet but received no success. 2. I am still unable to find exactly where to do programming. I have emacs. But still not very comfortable in it. I am referring the book : Unix Concepts & Applications (2nd edition) By Sumitabha Das Publisher Name : Tata Mcgraw Hill Nowhere in the whole book the author has written to use which editor. Just given the commands and I am uuable to find the interface to run them. 3. Sometimes it shows error: Nautilus has no installed viewer capable of displaying "/boot/grub/stage1" (or any other file) 4. I changed some settings and now when shutting down linux I get the message : Shutting down NMB services [Failed] Shutting down SMB services [Failed] Do I need to reinstall? 5. As in windows we have Norton Anti-Virus software. What about Linux. Any other software from where can I get it? Any website! 6. Can I install 2 Linux flavours on same P.C. 7. Now I can my Linux through Windows using Cygwin. I wanted to know like Through Linux I would be able to able to play songs stored On Windows( by mounting the partition or using some software like Wine) or do I have to again load them on Linux 7. Also how to create shortcut on desktop for a particular package. I just drag it to desktop. Is there any other method ? 8. Any free tutorial available on any website to learn linux and its detailed installation procedure guidelines. If available on the Linux Cd itself then how to extract them. 9. Through which software I will be able to write in Hindi fonts on Linux. 10. Is there any facility for address book on Linux. If exists then how to give password to my contacts folder as I don't want to share it. Also how to give password facility for the contacts foler in address book on Windows.(urgently needed) Would be thankful if you could solve some of my these basic queries. Waiting for an early reply. Yours sincerely, Dhiraj

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[Announce] Ayttm - 0.3.0
by Philip S Tellis 08 May '03

08 May '03

Ayttm 0.3.0 has been released. http://ayttm.sourceforge.net/ Ayttm is a Universal Instant Messenger, and is the heir to the everybuddy project. The minor version number bump is so because we feel there are enough new features since 0.2.x to motivate it, and to make people read the release notes. Things have changed and we'll get bugreports if no one reads it. Modules path has changed, it is now $PREFIX/lib/ayttm instead of $PREFIX/share/ayttm/modules, so if upgrading, you have to change your ~/.ayttm/prefs file by replacing "share/ayttm/modules" by "lib/ayttm". You'll find a perl script on the download page that does the job. * Bugfixes - Segfaults fixed ;-) - MSN: Login in predefined state now works - Compilation warnings - Plug memory leaks - gdk_pixbuf optional - Jabber fixes - Yahoo chatroom (bad name displaying) fix - --url command-line option (lets modules handle URLs, ie "aim:goim?screenname=colinleroy") - TOC modules now try ports 80 and 9898 (should stop problems from places with transparent http proxies) - Fix useless Error popup at logout (with Jabber) - Handle TOC Chatrooms name errors - Proxy support fixed (every type of proxy should work with or without auth) - Modules path changed to comply with FHS (read README!) * New features - "Actions": lets you run arbitrary commands with your conversation logs (print, mail, view in browser,...) - New away messages system (allows deletion) - Login on startup now on a per-account basis - Asynchronous connection for jabber - Activity bars for Yahoo,MSN,AIM,ICQ,Jabber (allows cancellation of hung connections) - Yahoo: non-blocking connects for every connection - Shiny new preferences window You can download it (source and rpms) from http://ayttm.sf.net/files.shtml -- Avoid strange women and temporary variables.

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Re: [Fwd: Fwd: hello sir ... -from SDMCET]
by Trevor Warren 08 May '03

08 May '03

Hello Vinod, good-day. We indeed will be glad to meet you all at Dharwad. But planning out for your event at Dharwad will take some time and i suggest you get started on the same. When we meet at iitb-hubli, we can sit and discuss these issues face-to-face. As for the Event and your existing use of Free Software and Open source, yes......that indeed makes me glad and proud. You indeed have made your self and the college proud by insisting on going in for Open Source and Free Software. I would suggest you read up on the following sites that will give you enough information on Free Software and Open source. * www.gnu.org * www.opensource.org Lemme know if you have any other clarification to make on the same. DO keep in touch and lemme know if you desire any clarifications on the same. Last but not the least....post reading up the sites lemme know if you would prefer to rename the event to "Free Software : The Road ahead". Have a nice day vinod. Trevor On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 09:49, vinod vijapur wrote: > Sir, > > Our college is at Dharwad. -> SDM College of > Engineering and Technology. > > Sir, i'll be meeting you at IIIt-b @ hubli. > > according to our HOD, he is planning a seperate event > called "OPEN SOURCE EVENT" at our college. > > This event will be only for promoting Open Source > Softwares and it is our HOD , Prof G.H.Joshi sir's > interest that he wants to do it in a Big way. > > So, We will be really priviledged to have you that > time and enlighten and inspire us all over Open > Softwares. > > I had to convince our another sir prof.Ravindra > Dastikop over the bugs that sir enlisted in OpenOffice > suite and finally he has agreed that this is certainly > far better than the previous such Open Source > softwares.( this shows it's reliability ) > > So sir, our college certainly has the tradition of > using Open Source Softwares for quite a long time and > we are eager to know more about it. > > with Regards > vinod vijapur and vinod b w > > > > > --- Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)softhome.net> wrote: > > Hello vinod, > > > > your college is at hubli or belgaum???. We are > > having a workshop at > > iit-b in hubli on 17-18th. You and your college is > > welcome to be part of > > the same. > > > > You can come along if you are interested and this > > way the need to have > > multiple workshops done in the same neighborhood > > could be avoided. > > > > > > Trevor > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-05-03 at 13:22, vinod vijapur wrote: > > > Dear sir > > > first of all i am very sorry for sending u the > > > mail lately... rather i talked to my concerned > > > professor for the event, and came up with the last > > > option i had for u sir. > > > really speaking to provide u a distribution > > > platform on the perticular day, u can always do it > > or > > > some representatives from the company and in > > favour > > > our sir is asking to get some sponsership which > > the > > > rates are as follows... > > > > > > 5000 for providing one full page in the CD > > provided > > > for the event(we are distributing our Technoscope > > CD > > > to all the participents) > > > > > > 2000 for the distribution of the CD's at the > > reception > > > desk itself(the selling will be done by some of u > > r > > > representative or it can always be sorted out by > > us) > > > > > > and abt the talk that u wanted to provide sir, on > > that > > > day we have 8 events running simultaniously, after > > > which debate and innovative idea contest will be > > there > > > after which we have the closing ceremony and i > > think > > > we would hardly have any time for u r > > seminar....so i > > > am sorry that,i cannot arrange seminar on that > > day. > > > > > > but sir as i admire u and ur knowladge and i > > havee > > > keen intrest on u sir, as i am also the secretary > > for > > > the "association of computer science" i would like > > to > > > have a seminar from u at u r convincible date > > which u > > > can provide me in the mail. > > > > > > if u ply notify me on what all aspects u would > > talk > > > and (i feel better for giving some suggestion from > > my > > > side : some thing about sope of linux/knopix in > > career > > > as we are from final year and also about the > > > information of the current IT trends) > > > > > > seeking u r mail > > > yours sincerely > > > vinod vijapur > > > (chair of ISTE student chapter) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Trevor Warren <trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu> wrote: > > > > Hello vinod, > > > > good-day. > > > > > > > > Glad that you have wrote in. I am very pleased > > to > > > > know that you are > > > > impressed by gnu/linux and i suggest that you > > pursue > > > > mastering all you > > > > can while you can and can bounce a mail to me > > > > whenever you have any > > > > issues with the same. > > > > > > > > Okie, as for the paper presentation. Lemme > > know > > > > the dates and the > > > > schedules. Your idea of distributing the knoppix > > > > cd's is absolutely > > > > fundu. Infact considering that 250 students from > > all > > > > over the state > > > > would be there i deem it necessary to hold a 1 > > hour > > > > talk on gnu-linux > > > > and careers in gnu-linux and FSF-Open Source. > > > > > > > > This could provide a platform for the students > > to > > > > learn about possible > > > > career oppurtunities and challenges which would > > > > definitely influence any > > > > future decisions they make. Lemme know what you > > > > think about the same. I > > > > can arrange for Fredrick Noronha from goa to > > help > > > > out on the same and > > > > get a contingent for GOA-Belgaum to help out > > with > > > > the noble cause. > > > > > > > > Also, do you have Knoppix 3.2 with you??. Lemme > > > > know about the same and > > > > if you have the capability to burn 100-150 cds > > for > > > > the same. Blank media > > > > of a reputed manufacturer should cost you about > > > > 7-8/- and you can retail > > > > the same for about 20/- which is the norm we > > follow. > > > > To implement the > > > > decision is left yo your discretion. > > > > > > > > Bye for now vinod and have a nice day. Lemme > > know > > > > about your thoughts > > > > on the same and if we can proceed with the plan. > > > > > > > > Trevor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Forwarded Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Trevor Warren <trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com> > > > > To: trevor(a)clovertechnologies.com > > > > Subject: Fwd: hello sir ... -from SDMCET > > > > Date: 25 Apr 2003 01:56:04 -0700 > > > > > > > > > > > > --- vinod vijapur <vinodvijapur(a)yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 00:57:55 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > From: vinod vijapur <vinodvijapur(a)yahoo.com> > > > > > Subject: hello sir ... -from SDMCET > > > > > To: trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > > > > > > > My name is Vinod Vijapur and i am a student of > > > > > SDMCET,dharwad. > > > > > > > > > > I got to know about you from my friends > > working at > > > > > IIIT-b@hubli ie. Vinod Waghamare and Amol > > Guttal. > > > > > > > > > > Sir, the reason that i mailed you is that : > > Our > > > > > college is organising a State level Paper > > > > > Presentation > > > > > and Innovative Idea compition "TECNOSCOPE". > > > > > About 200-250 student from all over the State > > are > > > > > expected to meet. > > > > > > > > > > So, As a supporter of Linux and Free software > > > > > foundation, i propose that we distribute > > copies of > > > > > the > > > > > Linux live CD-knoppix.3.2 at a nominal > > price(which > > > > > covers expenditure of the services). > > > > > > > > > > I think that this is a good platform to > > popularise > > > > > Linux and it's usage. > > > > > > > > > > What are your views on this sir ? > > > > > Please let us know. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Vinod Vijapur > > > === message truncated === > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevorwarren(a)softhome.net __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales Consultant - Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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Which OS are you?
by Pranav Joshi 08 May '03

08 May '03

I found this funny link on FreeOS.com.. take the quiz to find out which os your personality resemble the most.. :) http://bbspot.com/News/2003/01/os_quiz_results.php __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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[Commercial] - Required Programmer/Sys Admin/Kernel Hacker
by Mitul Limbani 08 May '03

08 May '03

Hello Fella Linuxers, Here goes the requirement. Job Profile : ------------- 1 - Perl, PHP, Sys. Admin, Basically Linux Freak. Job Profile : ------------- 1 - ASM, C, C++, System and Kernel Hacker, Device Drivers, Kernel Modules. Candidate profile : ------------------- a) Exp : 1 year and/or should have executed atleast one project, if not employed yet any where should have worked on one of the FLOSS project. b) Should take word impossible as I M Possible. c) Should be positive, with a never say die approach. d) Education : 10th pass not a problem, till the time he knowz his stuff. Motivated person, would know where to search for help, google, newgroups, mailing lists. e) Should take each day as another day at classroom, fast learner. f) Should EAT, SLEEP, DRINK and THINK Linux. Interested candidates can mail their resumes off the list on : geeks(a)enterux.com Best Regards, Mitul Limbani CTO, Enterux Solutions The Enterprise Linux Company (http://www.enterux.com/)

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problem with running samba
by Pradnyesh Sawant 07 May '03

07 May '03

i recently installed rhl7.1 on a comp in my college lab. samba was installed by default. then i downloaded xsmbrowser which is a GUI for accessing other comps on the lan using samba. i installed it and it ran perfectly on the first day. from then on whenever i run "#samba start" as the root, it gives me the following error: "/usr/sbin/samba: box: command not found Starting SMB services: [OK] Starting NMB services: [OK]" then when i run xsmbrowser, and click on Samba Config, it gives me the following error: "Unable to find Domain Master" so it is not possible to access the lan any help will be highly appreciated -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte lächeln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage!

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Mutt - HTML mails
by Amish Munshi 07 May '03

07 May '03

Greetings, How do I view HTML mails using mutt/links, presently the html mails are received at attachments, they open using links, but a temporary file which is passed by mutt to links is named similar to mutt9938, links does not recognize this as an HTML file and opens it as simple ASCII file, I would like if mutt can pass the file as mutt9938.html or links open all files as HTML format. Bye. -- Amish K. Munshi In GNU we trust.

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Re - problem useing d-link external modem
by koushik lahiri 06 May '03

06 May '03

i am install pcqredhat linux 8.0 but problem is in my external modem not fount by os i run kudzu bot nothing happened. kppp can't found modem when i point out ttys0 (com1) it say modem busy & wvdial say no dial tone ( I am use dfm 560 e d-link modem) plz help me how i dial to internat through a any external modem OR my d-link modem koushik thanks e mail = kk_l017(a)yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Where is the next GLUG meet?
by Pranav Joshi 06 May '03

06 May '03

How about working together to make the site better? If you are game, mail me i'm with definately in :D (mail me the details at merciless_messiah(a)yahoo.com) p.s. Pranav, dont use a MSN/Hotmail id at least for the *GLUG* mailing list... it looks a bit out of place ;) .... just a suggestion .... flames > /dev/null I'm just a really big fan of Mr. Sabeer Bhatia :p anyways i've changed my subscription address to Yahoo! ;) Peace happy lugging Pranav __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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[OT] C++ doubt
by Abhijeet D Mhatre 06 May '03

06 May '03

HI Friends I have a doubt in C++. when I pass an object to a function, the destructor gets called twice. This behaviour hasn't been mentioned in any books that I have read. Can someone please explain why this happens. In the below example the destructor for p1 gets called twice when it is passed as to the function f. _______________________C++ Code Start____________________________________ #include <iostream.h> #include <stdlib.h> class play { public: int i ; int j; play(int m){i=m; } ~play() {cout << "destructor called " << i <<" " << j << endl; } void f (play p) { p.j = 177; cout << " klkl " << endl; } }; int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { play p(1), p1(2); p.f(p1); cout << "Hello, World!" << endl; return EXIT_SUCCESS; } _______________________C++ Code End_____________________________________ ______________________Output Start__________________________________ klkl destructor called 2 177 destructor called 2 134514273 Hello, World! destructor called 2 134514273 destructor called 1 134519308 Press Enter to continue! _________________Output End_____________________________________ Regards Abhijeet D Mhatre Email: abhijeetmhatre(a)gmx.net

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Where is the next GLUG meet?
by pranav joshi 06 May '03

06 May '03

Kapil wrote:-- >Where is the next GLUG meet? Don't look at me ... I have no clue :P > >happy hacking !! I totally agree to this the ilug-mumbai website never seems to be up-to-date, the first page of the website still says... --snip-- The April GLUG meet is to be held at HBCSE on 13th april at 04:30 p.m. For directions to reach HBCSE please visit: http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20021104/006987.ht… --snip-- shouldn't it be hosting the upcoming GLUG info? The meetings/events section is still stuck in february LINK:- http://www.ilug-bom.org.in/meet/content Regards pranav _________________________________________________________________ Attention Taureans! See what's in store. http://server1.msn.co.in/features/taurus/index.asp Read on.

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Any Utility for capturing parts of a VCD/DVD?
by Anoop Kumar Saxena 06 May '03

06 May '03

I need to capture a few scenes from VCD/DVD for Audio/Visual quiz. Is there any utility in Linux(Gnu/Linux) which can help me? Thanks, Anoop.

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networking problem
by Amit Redij 05 May '03

05 May '03

Hi all, I have following setup. One Linux server (192.168.0) catering to various windoze/Linux clients. DHCP is handling the leases. I want to find out which all machines are in the network(alive) at any given point of time. Also, I may have another sub-network(s) and a router. Is there a reliable and efficient way to get "all" those machines (IP) that are there? Please help. Thanks in advance. -- regards, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Amit A. Redij In a world without fences and walls, who needs Windows and Gates?

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Driver - omni.net Plus
by joel_divekar 05 May '03

05 May '03

Hi Supreet I am using Red Hat 8.0. Can you guide me what changes to make and where ? Regards Joel linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: AFAIK omni.net is serial port modem For Zyxel to work you really do'nt need drivers. The only setting that changes is the serial port settings. In case of debian only tuning I did was to change in serial.conf replaced spd_normal to spd_vhi. That makes it reach its peak performance. Supreet On Sun, 2003-05-04 at 09:58, joel_divekar wrote: > Hi > > I am trying to configure zyxel omni.net plus ISDN TA modem on Linux. Can anybody guide me how to configure the same or from where I can get its linux drivers. > > Regards > > Joel > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com > > Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com > > Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now ! > > > -- > > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now !

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enqury please
by mihir nahar 05 May '03

05 May '03

Respected sir/madam, I am post graduate student from pune,I am presently planning to do project in Unix ( Shell implementation).I need bourne shell's souece code for reference. if u could mail me some related information or actual code then i will be thankful to u. thanking u

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Driver - omni.net Plus
by joel_divekar 04 May '03

04 May '03

Hi I am trying to configure zyxel omni.net plus ISDN TA modem on Linux. Can anybody guide me how to configure the same or from where I can get its linux drivers. Regards Joel Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now !

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Re: we have been having a glug for the past 5 years dear
by Trevor Warren 04 May '03

04 May '03

Hello kunal, good-morning. I am very glad that you have gone out and started a lug of your own. This shows your determination towards bringing the flock together and helping share resources and discussing relevant issues o nthe lines of gnu and linux. Please kunal, i request you don't plagarise this by calling this as "trevor's lug" and my lug. I belong the the ilug-bom and we have been there for half a decade now. Setting up small lugs in local areas to have better and informed interaction is what th eilug-bom has always thought good. But setting up another ilug-bom doesn't solve any purpose. Hope you understand. Why don't you join ilug-bom, want you to help broaden our perspective as much as possible. Have a nice day kunal and lemme know if there is anything i can do towards briging this gap. Trevor --- kunal bharati <kunalbharati(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > hi Trevor, > Thanks for your reply > LUG was created for sharing knowledge and post > problems. > I didnt understood that u told 'why we need another > one' > If only one is needed then why different companies > create Linux. > I know that your LUG is better in activities than > ours. > But, we have just started > We have to be together for Linux > Knowledge must be used to share, not to keep it > limited to ourself. Think over it. > I would love to join your LUG > Hope you understand me > Thank you. > Kunal P.Bharati > [Owner and Moderator: Mumbai_Linux] > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mumbai_linux/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo > http://search.yahoo.com ===== ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu \ (/ | |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Humour "Is Your Son A computer Hacker"
by pranav joshi 04 May '03

04 May '03

I wrote.. >(Math and Chemestry are difficult anyways even he has mentioned it.. hmmm >maybe i sould consider joining Otaku :p) Nikhil D. Kikkeri wrote.. "Uh, Math, Physics, and Chemistry would actually be the favourite subjects of most hackers. Composition too - in their native language." If u read carefully you would notice that not once have i mentioned anything about hackers performing badly in Math or Chemistry it's generalised it is'nt about how you, me or other hackers felt about these subjects it's abt how the average kids feel abt these subjects.. Pranav _________________________________________________________________ Visit Latin America. Discover! Explore! http://www.coxandkingsusa.com/L2/latin_amer/latin_amer_L2.html Experience it!

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[SECURITY] [DSA 297-1] New snort packages fix remote root exploits][OT]
by Trevor Warren 03 May '03

03 May '03

-----Forwarded Message----- From: Martin Schulze <joey(a)infodrom.org> To: bugtraq(a)securityfocus.com Subject: [SECURITY] [DSA 297-1] New snort packages fix remote root exploits Date: 01 May 2003 15:12:58 +0200 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Debian Security Advisory DSA 297-1 security(a)debian.org http://www.debian.org/security/ Martin Schulze May 1st, 2003 http://www.debian.org/security/faq - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Package : snort Vulnerability : integer overflow, buffer overflow Problem-Type : remote Debian-specific: no CVE Ids : CAN-2003-0033 CAN-2003-0209 CERT advisories: VU#139129 VU#916785 Bugtraq Ids : 7178 6963 Two vulnerabilities have been discoverd in Snort, a popular network intrusion detection system. Snort comes with modules and plugins that perform a variety of functions such as protocol analysis. The following issues have been identified: Heap overflow in Snort "stream4" preprocessor (VU#139129, CAN-2003-0209, Bugtraq Id 7178) Researchers at CORE Security Technologies have discovered a remotely exploitable inteter overflow that results in overwriting the heap in the "stream4" preprocessor module. This module allows Snort to reassemble TCP packet fragments for further analysis. An attacker could insert arbitrary code that would be executed as the user running Snort, probably root. Buffer overflow in Snort RPC preprocessor (VU#916785, CAN-2003-0033, Bugtraq Id 6963) Researchers at Internet Security Systems X-Force have discovered a remotely exploitable buffer overflow in the Snort RPC preprocessor module. Snort incorrectly checks the lengths of what is being normalized against the current packet size. An attacker could exploit this to execute arbitrary code under the privileges of the Snort process, probably root. For the stable distribution (woody) these problems have been fixed in version 1.8.4beta1-3.1. The old stable distribution (potato) is not affected by these problems since it doesn't contain the problematic code. For the unstable distribution (sid) these problems have been fixed in version 2.0.0-1. We recommend that you upgrade your snort package immediately. You are also advised to upgrade to the most recent version of Snort, since Snort, as any intrusion detection system, is rather useless if it is based on old and out-dated data and not kept up to date. Such installations would be unable to detect intrusions using modern methods. The current version of Snort is 2.0.0, while the version in the stable distribution (1.8) is quite old and the one in the old stable distribution is beyond hope. Since Debian does not update arbitrary packages in stable releases, even Snort is not going to see updates other than to fix security problems, you are advised to upgrade to the most recent version from third party sources. The Debian maintainer for Snort provides backported up-to-date packages for woody (stable) and potato (oldstable) for cases where you cannot upgrade your entire system. These packages are untested, though and only exist for the i386 architecture: deb http://people.debian.org/~ssmeenk/snort-stable-i386/ ./ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~ssmeenk/snort-stable-i386/ ./ deb http://people.debian.org/~ssmeenk/snort-oldstable-i386/ ./ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~ssmeenk/snort-oldstable-i386/ ./ Upgrade Instructions - -------------------- wget url will fetch the file for you dpkg -i file.deb will install the referenced file. If you are using the apt-get package manager, use the line for sources.list as given below: apt-get update will update the internal database apt-get upgrade will install corrected packages You may use an automated update by adding the resources from the footer to the proper configuration. Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 alias woody - -------------------------------- Source archives: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort_1.8.4beta1-3.1.d… Size/MD5 checksum: 681 2186ab4fe2efad905f07fb9522f04597 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort_1.8.4beta1-3.1.d… Size/MD5 checksum: 67265 1f8ea5bc8a842626a30a2fb693398a16 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort_1.8.4beta1.orig.… Size/MD5 checksum: 1718574 80201d9c4e33af5e0b56121e4f9f7f7b Architecture independent components: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-doc_1.8.4beta1-3… Size/MD5 checksum: 344358 5d15c2a2ffc2e085a4dacfc8226ba336 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-rules-default_1.… Size/MD5 checksum: 59674 76c3416b6a5e97c4b82e984255ee62a6 Alpha architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort_1.8.4beta1-3.1_a… Size/MD5 checksum: 218862 e289d2ac6a97c3c729575af2608d62da http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-common_1.8.4beta… Size/MD5 checksum: 35798 7d1a116fc1c00006914e48019ba68a4b http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-mysql_1.8.4beta1… Size/MD5 checksum: 222492 589db8d591013c098a4d51981464b21e ARM architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort_1.8.4beta1-3.1_a… Size/MD5 checksum: 178156 f37eb2c6b75176be30aaae92cfd699ea http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-common_1.8.4beta… Size/MD5 checksum: 35820 4977d033364e56ec0d66266918b5ddfb http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-mysql_1.8.4beta1… Size/MD5 checksum: 181128 d7d40fc33fd3e51b54e4293ed7617c70 Intel IA-32 architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort_1.8.4beta1-3.1_i… Size/MD5 checksum: 162048 f26f7562fae5f8761834d4cabe3ed17c http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-common_1.8.4beta… Size/MD5 checksum: 35802 548afa7fde8557dcd40bf235f38074dc http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-mysql_1.8.4beta1… Size/MD5 checksum: 165354 911fd22a147390c8cf5d4694b4e2b18b Intel IA-64 architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort_1.8.4beta1-3.1_i… Size/MD5 checksum: 271778 12be6ab4ac58909148a8c9625ebefb99 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-common_1.8.4beta… Size/MD5 checksum: 35798 57f0772e114cc1130c5c2639fc64be71 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-mysql_1.8.4beta1… Size/MD5 checksum: 275284 a8489c8f41fa49d532c0afa67928ee61 HP Precision architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort_1.8.4beta1-3.1_h… Size/MD5 checksum: 201916 91c8ee56127b14c92736d7d418bc05ca http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-common_1.8.4beta… Size/MD5 checksum: 35816 a5718f767ebc93178eb820dc5a190579 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-mysql_1.8.4beta1… Size/MD5 checksum: 205334 00eb158e0b034dbb6e16e42223f5855b Motorola 680x0 architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort_1.8.4beta1-3.1_m… Size/MD5 checksum: 150320 3c205732845c14274bd9d8520f8ba806 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-common_1.8.4beta… Size/MD5 checksum: 35850 3b8e1da42a9c796a0ecf74f1e7ca2ac1 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-mysql_1.8.4beta1… Size/MD5 checksum: 153552 f97f6f155c93f042f01a9f2e40aff91d Big endian MIPS architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort_1.8.4beta1-3.1_m… Size/MD5 checksum: 198172 75e4fef830c00e952f05cf4139bc264f http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-common_1.8.4beta… Size/MD5 checksum: 35822 aadad43bcef00f74acc754302e3557fc http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-mysql_1.8.4beta1… Size/MD5 checksum: 201404 9fa10daa290890849df6762b66825024 Little endian MIPS architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort_1.8.4beta1-3.1_m… Size/MD5 checksum: 199732 040b188aeb253aa4ec4a6903c3f6f792 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-common_1.8.4beta… Size/MD5 checksum: 35818 467f455bb8b2c59630470417673e9856 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-mysql_1.8.4beta1… Size/MD5 checksum: 202972 755df8c2d9b7e2bc01fec9a0b2259f4d PowerPC architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort_1.8.4beta1-3.1_p… Size/MD5 checksum: 174508 3b5d1ebec2d40949e49746b4365c0a81 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-common_1.8.4beta… Size/MD5 checksum: 35804 60575d5c1998634b6bb3d2a9696f95c6 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-mysql_1.8.4beta1… Size/MD5 checksum: 177562 c8cdeaab4e7c41c01a435933103fe6dd IBM S/390 architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort_1.8.4beta1-3.1_s… Size/MD5 checksum: 173002 ff71b2925e1020c278d7d33eed8f8e6d http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-common_1.8.4beta… Size/MD5 checksum: 35794 5207eb80204af25cdbd77dca4b6cc09e http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-mysql_1.8.4beta1… Size/MD5 checksum: 176296 2cc04f18ee550e4595e1680b43c2bf3e Sun Sparc architecture: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort_1.8.4beta1-3.1_s… Size/MD5 checksum: 176202 6f1325e6c45e06d3f769b18a9ce98274 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-common_1.8.4beta… Size/MD5 checksum: 35806 91ada09e5b9386b803184417ecbd953c http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/s/snort/snort-mysql_1.8.4beta1… Size/MD5 checksum: 179444 deb6b8580ef04cabecfec3972f4519dd These files will probably be moved into the stable distribution on its next revision. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For apt-get: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main For dpkg-ftp: ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security dists/stable/updates/main Mailing list: debian-security-announce(a)lists.debian.org Package info: `apt-cache show <pkg>' and http://packages.debian.org/<pkg> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+sR1ZW5ql+IAeqTIRApAdAKC1eQYjEpX7v5t4fdBeDh7CK5y6awCfdUpd YqHF6Rz3zXbDFPWbU5uuPac= =EfYw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ trevorwarren(a)softhome.net __ /~\ | \) / Pre Sales - Technical, Red Hat \ (/ | |_|_ \ 9820349221(M) | 22881326(O) / _|_| \___________________________________/

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Searching for: Manoj Apte
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 03 May '03

03 May '03

Sorry... should have explained. I'm a Goa-based journalist and try to track the Indian / South Asian contribution to GNU/Linux. Manoj Apte could be in India, or at least of Indian-origin, hence my interest. FN --__--__-- Message: 6 Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] NEWS: College Linux, what's it all about? (fwd) From: Amitay Isaacs <amitay(a)aero.iitb.ac.in> To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Organization: CASDE, Aerospace Engineering, IIT Bombay Date: 01 May 2003 12:32:01 +0530 Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Why do you want to find Manoj Apte? It's not clear from the mail? Amitay. On Wed, 2003-04-30 at 12:22, Frederick Noronha (FN) wrote: > Anyone knows links for Manoj Apte and Lalita Godbole (see below)? FN > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > URL : http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3305 > > [16]Read articles with similar Topic Interview with Professor David > Costa of CollegeLinux > By [17]Eugenia Loli-Queru - Posted on 2003-04-17 18:28:52 > > There is a Linux distro for any possible need and [18]CollegeLinux is > geared towards students and schools! Today, we interview Prof. David > Costa of the Robert Kennedy College in Delémont, Switzerland regarding > their initiative behind CollegeLinux. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick Noronha (FN) | http://www.fredericknoronha.net Freelance Journalist | http://www.bytesforall.org http://goalinks.pitas.com | http://joingoanet.shorturl.com http://linuxinindia.pitas.com | http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks ------------------------------------------------------------------------- T: 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 M: 0 9822 122436 -------------------------------------------------------------------------

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we have been having a glug for the past 5 years dear
by Trevor Warren 03 May '03

03 May '03

Hello Kunal, good-day. Please check www.ilug-bom.org.in. We have been having a glug for the past 5 years now. Lemme know any reason why we need another one. I would be glad to see you join in the efforts at ilug-bom.org.in. Have a nice day kunal. Trevor ===== ( >- GNU/LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.qmailtheeasyway.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevor.w(a)media.mit.edu \ (/ | |_|_ \ Research Asst, MediaLab / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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(no subject)
by Dinesh Bareja 03 May '03

03 May '03

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[COMMERCIAL-OT] Windows/Linux Admin
by Nemo 03 May '03

03 May '03

Hello all, We are looking for someone who knows Windows Configuration/Administration and who has basic Linux knowledge and willing to learn more. Linux administrators/ Windows administrators are both welcome to apply. We are based near Vashi and would prefer someone residing near Navi Mumbai. The point is it should not take more than an hour of travelling for the incumbent to reach the office from his residence. Those who are interested may please mail their resumés to jt(a)phoenixsoftech.com Thank you all for the patience Nemo

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Opera 7.10
by Amish K. Munshi 03 May '03

03 May '03

Greetings, I tried Opera 7.10 on RedHat Linux 8.0 and found it the best browser for my low end comp. It is faster than Galeon, does not have a rendering as good as Mozilla engine but does show pages pretty well (and did I forget to tell fast). A mail client integrated into the browser does help a little bit to speed up the work. I am sharing this with you for the only reason that one can show that even on GNU systems there are a few softwares that may not be opensource and can help companies to make money by creating softwares for GNU systems. Bye. -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Humour "Is Your Son A computer Hacker"
by Nikhil D. Kikkeri 03 May '03

03 May '03

> > (Math and Chemestry are difficult anyways even he has mentioned it.. > > hmmm maybe i sould consider joining Otaku :p) > >Uh, Math, Physics, and Chemistry would actually be the favourite >subjects of most hackers. Composition too - in their native language. I guess most hackers are artistically inclined.Most people I encounter are into either music or fine arts.History or Literature too. regards -Nikhil _________________________________________________________________ Visit Latin America. Discover! Explore! http://www.coxandkingsusa.com/L2/latin_amer/latin_amer_L2.html Experience it!

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Help needed for ppp
by Girish Hanchate 03 May '03

03 May '03

Hi, Thru minicom u have to enable both channels of ISDN. Normally commands for enabling the channels are given in ISDN manual. After enabling same u can directly connect on both channels i.e 128 Kbps. rgds girish i have an ISDN account (128Kbps) i am using linux redhat 6.2 to share the connection amoung the other machines, it works, but through one channel i have been able to configure it. Can any body help me in getting it configured for the both the channels (e.i. Multilink) to achive 128 kbps. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

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Code red for open source?
by Rahul Upakare 02 May '03

02 May '03

Hi! Lines from Unix's source code have been copied into the heart of Linux, sometimes exactly and sometimes in a modified form designed to disguise their origin, SCO Group Chief Executive Darl McBride said Thursday. Read more at: http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-999371.html -- ============================================================= Rahul Upakare Technical Associate ETU Division NCST, Kharghar. =============================================================

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SEI-perspective on oss
by Sthitaprajna 02 May '03

02 May '03

Hi I was looking to download the SEI's Perspective on Open Source Software from sei.cmu.edu, but looks like there's some routing problem or some such. Also, wayback machine on archive.org did'nt seem to list it....If anyone has a copy of this file, can you please mail it to me offlist? this one is like ~400K and published sometime late 2001.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Humour "Is Your Son A computer Hacker"
by pranav joshi 02 May '03

02 May '03

I believe tht you havent read the whole article, if u would have though you prolly would hav got the sarcasm here are some snippets frm the article ---Hacker Software--- Popular hacker software includes "Comet Cursor", "Bonzi Buddy" and "Flash". (Everyone knows what they are) ---AMD Processors--- (point no 3) If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "AMD", this is genuine cause for alarm. AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips. They use child labor extensively in their third world sweatshops, and they deliberately disable the security features that American processor makers, such as Intel, use to prevent hacking. AMD chips are never sold in stores, and you will most likely be told that you have to order them from internet sites. Do not buy this chip! This is one request that you must refuse your son, if you are to have any hope of raising him well. It's a U.S based company --- Does your son use Quake? --- Point No. 6 Quake is an online virtual reality used by hackers. It is a popular meeting place and training ground, where they discuss hacking and train in the use of various firearms. (LOL.. You Be the Judge) --- Is your son obsessed with lunix--- point No. 8 8. Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"? BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. It is based on a program called "xenix", which was written by Microsoft for the US government. These programs are used by hackers to break into other people's computer systems to steal credit card numbers. They may also be used to break into people's stereos to steal their music, using the "mp3" program. Torovoltos is a notorious hacker, responsible for writing many hacker programs, such as "telnet", which is used by hackers to connect to machines on the internet without using a telephone. (Notice how he has deliberately changed the name to linyos torovoltos... the actual name is easier to remember ;) and about breaking into Stereos is concerned all i can say is WOW!! ) --- Appearance change--- point 9 9. Has your son radically changed his appearance? If your son has undergone a sudden change in his style of dress, you may have a hacker on your hands. Hackers tend to dress in bright, day-glo colors. They may wear baggy pants, bright colored shirts and spiky hair dyed in bright colors to match their clothes. They may take to carrying "glow-sticks" and some wear pacifiers around their necks. (I have no idea why they do this) ( If thats the new dress code maybe i'm outdated :D ) 10. --- academics --- point 10 If your son is failing courses in school, or performing poorly on sports teams, he may be involved in a hacking group, such as the infamous "Otaku" hacker association. Excessive time spent on the computer, communicating with his fellow hackers may cause temporary damage to the eyes and brain, from the electromagnetic radiation. This will cause his marks to slip dramatically, particularly in difficult subjects such as Math, and Chemistry. (Math and Chemestry are difficult anyways even he has mentioned it.. hmmm maybe i sould consider joining Otaku :p) _________________________________________________________________ Still unmarried? Not for long. http://www.msn.co.in/Matrimony/ Find a life partner now

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M$ admits patching is expensive
by Amol Hatwar 01 May '03

01 May '03

Now it's official :). Patching applications is the most costly security job that companies face, according to Microsoft's head of security says Craig Fiebig. More can be found out here: http://www.vnunet.com/News/1140555

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PCQuest Linux 8.0
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 01 May '03

01 May '03

Hi, Yesterday I tried installing PCQuest Linux 8.0 on my new Athlon XP 1800Mhz system, with A7N266VM Asus mobo.(Thanks to some of you who advised me to use Athlon over Celeron!). Now... When the installer(anaconda) starts, it probes the hardware..it displays "unable to probe monitor" & after emitting a couple of lines the system hangs. Using the options "Linux noprobe" or linux skipddc" as suggested doesnt skip the probe, & the same problem repeats again. I also trie the "linux rescue" option . Some of you have installed the PCQuest Linux 8.0. Maybe you can advise me... Thanks, --Royce.

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Help needed for ppp
by Jaideep Tejprakash Varma 01 May '03

01 May '03

hi i have an ISDN account (128Kbps) i am using linux redhat 6.2 to share the connection amoung the other machines, it works, but through one channel i have been able to configure it. Can any body help me in getting it configured for the both the channels (e.i. Multilink) to achive 128 kbps. Thanks In advance Jaideep

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NEWS: College Linux, what's it all about? (fwd)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 01 May '03

01 May '03

Anyone knows links for Manoj Apte and Lalita Godbole (see below)? FN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- URL : http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3305 [16]Read articles with similar Topic Interview with Professor David Costa of CollegeLinux By [17]Eugenia Loli-Queru - Posted on 2003-04-17 18:28:52 There is a Linux distro for any possible need and [18]CollegeLinux is geared towards students and schools! Today, we interview Prof. David Costa of the Robert Kennedy College in Del�mont, Switzerland regarding their initiative behind CollegeLinux. 1. What was the initial need to create a distribution specifically for students? Prof. David Costa: This is actually a great question. I read some students saying "do we really need this ? We have slackware, debian redhat and many others which are perfect for students!" Actually this is a myth. Many of the students I know never heard of linux. I am talking about students in management, law or any other non computing subject. Initally we used in our computer lab Mandrake 8.1 and to my delusion many of the things i would and our student would expect where no there. Flash and java plugins to name the browsing related ones. Network sharing with Windows computers to name another major concern. Not talking about movie player and excellent multimedia support. After all student life it's not just about assignments! 2. What kind of applications your distro includes that are particular to students? Prof. David Costa: We added the complete Openoffice suite, browsers plug-in's all preconfigured, network sharing pre configured, windows emulator, many financial calculators/math tools, project management suite and practically everything you need for an easy move from windows to linux without having to give up on the convenience we are used to. Every students on CollegeLinux should not regret his choice. Before the release we tested CollegeLinux with real students. They where expected not to need windows for the testing period, meaning the should have managed to do everything they did with windows on collegelinux. They did and, they are still using collegelinux. 3. Do you have any plans on 'feeding' your students in your College with laptops that run your distro? Some colleges and schools in USA have just started this initiative (reference [19]here). Prof. David Costa: We are mainly a career college, our student population is diverse but we are mainly dealing with adults. It's easier to change your habits when you are young, so while I am convinced that linux is the best enviroment to learn I do respect the views of students and faculty members who might disagree with me. What we will do is starting some classed on a dual major diploma programme: management and linux computing. Then our distribution will be the base of the computing component. Another think I don't like is try to push a distribution or OS with the pre-installed "trick". Afterall the installation is part of the linux learning process. I learned a lot during failed installs, you can tell ;) 4. Who is actually doing the work on packaging and putting the distro together? How big is the dev team? Prof. David Costa: We are currently 4. The lead developer is Mihai Secasiu, other developers are Manoj Apte and Lalita Godbole. Todd Kulesza (from dropline system, the father of dropline gnome) might soon join us for the integration of dropline gnome and a collegelinux robot/auto upated in the next release scheduled for May. I know it's a small team but we do pay (not that well but) our developers. This a not for profit project fully sponsored by the Robert Kennedy College. Many linux developers are working free of charge (e.g. Debian) but with a small paid team we can better control the development and its timelines. 5. What are your future plans for College Linux? Prof. David Costa: The next release will bring some interesting surprises. While dropline gnome is already working fine on CollegeLinux 2.1. The Jedi, we are trying to go a mile further with a perfect integration which will allow our users to keep their packages constantly updated. In this way students will benefit from a stable and complete OS constantly updated with a click. We are also fixing some of the problems with the installer (which was created from scratch) and we take into serious account all the installation problems reported by collegelinux users. We will add more plugins (RealMedia) to the browsers and must important we will constanctly updated our distribution to allow its installation in a great number of configurations. 6. Why Slackware was picked as the "mother" distribution for College Linux, instead of say... Debian or Red Hat? Prof. David Costa: First of all Slackware is a great learning enviroment.Its base allows the more experienced users to customize the system as the want. Red Hat and Debian are excellent distributions but we didn't want to bring another clone to the world. I have seen many of the over 50 Red Hat based distributions. They all use the same installer and system..so I ask myself, why should someone get a clone of the original and not the real Red Hat ? Some of these distribution are certainly justified (e.g. RedFlag linux with the Chinese language support) but many others are just personal experiments. Slackware is one of the oldest distribution well know for its stability and the simple but great package system.We didn't want to bring the rpm dependencies nightmare to our users. Slackware It's probably one the best distributions, the only thing missing (and attention, not because they didn't care about it..is just the way it is to leave more feedom to the experienced user) is a better configured desktop tailored version. 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Humour "Is Your Son A computer Hacker"
by pranav joshi 01 May '03

01 May '03

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Fw: [ILUG-BOM] PCQuest Linux 8.0
by Royce & Sharal Pereira 01 May '03

01 May '03

Hi, When I tried Knoppix 3.1, even with the boot option 'knoppix lang=us" I always get the German installation messages(i.e after "knx-hdinstall"). How to get it to display in english? ----- Original Message ----- > > > Get Knoppix 3.1 dear! > > regards, > > ah

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