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Debian Etch DVD's request
by Roshan 31 Mar '07

31 Mar '07

Hello List, If someone can help nukeu666 with Debian Etch DVD's, please do so. http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/CDs_Wanted -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC - http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Debian Etch DVD's request
by Roshan 31 Mar '07

31 Mar '07

Hello List, If someone can help nukeu666 with Debian Etch DVD's, please do so. http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/CDs_Wanted -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC - http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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OFFTOPIC: Konkani Wikipedia (under incubation) needs your help!
by Frederick Noronha 31 Mar '07

31 Mar '07

What you can do to help the Konkani Wikipedia: * Translate articles of relevance to Goa, and to generally building the body of knowledge in Konkani. There are tonnes of copyright-free articles which you can translate into Konkani at http://en.wikipedia.org This is specially suited for people with linguistic and translation skills (whatever script). * Play around with the Wikipedia and see how it works. It's not complex. The starting point is to create a login for yourself. Then, everything follows. This is specially suited for tech people. But don't believe it's a complicated tech job! * Build awareness about the attempt to build the Konkani Wikipedia, and tell others about it. It will only work if there is enough "critical mass" and interest around it. * Above all, promote the language of your choice (any script!) using this tool of the 21st century. It's a powerful tool, so let's make use of it. Starting points: * http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kok (Konkani Wikipedia/incubator) * http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kok/contributors List yourself as a contributor * http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/kok (See Deepak's tutorial on Devanagari) The best thing here is: you can promote any script you want via the Konkani Wikipedia. Romi, Devanagari, Kannada (and I guess even Malayalam or Perso-Arabic). So instead of clashing swords, let's sharpen our pens, and increase the amount of sharable Konkani information in cyberspace. The Wikipedia (for a number of reasons) is a great place to do it. And all this knowledge becomes sharable. A special thanks to Deepak D'Souza for his persistence, Sangeeta Naik (SangeetaDiwar) for persistently working on it, Isidore Dantas for his meticulous Konkani translations from Mumbai, and Equinox for signing up as one of the early contributors. FN -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Konkani Wikipedia (under incubation) needs your help! http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kok

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Windows Vista restricts GNU GCC apps to 32 MB
by Vickram Crishna 31 Mar '07

31 Mar '07

--- Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On 31-Mar-07, at 1:28 PM, Nagarjuna G. wrote: > > >> pro or anti is irrelevant - since doze is not > open source, we cant > >> do anything about defects. So why waste our time > complaining about > >> it? If you have paid for vista and cant compile > something this > >> list is not the place to complain ... > > > > It is clearly a matter of concern if free software > like firefox, > > openoffice, GIMP, inkscape, blender etc are > compiled for Vista, and > > if they don't take full advantage of the system > due to restriction > > of the OS. User's will assume that free software > works less > > efficiently, without understanding that the cause > is due to their > > digital restrictions management. Let us remember > that most of free > > software today is inter operable, except of course > the kernel Linux. > > agreed - so what can this list do about it? > Especialy as probably > vista was designed with this idea in mind. As i said > originally - > dont worry, just migrate to linux. I trust your remark is rhetorical. There is PLENTY a list like this can do, being vibrant and full of aware people as well as people who lurk to learn. You can work with the cybercafe initiative (which is a brilliant and practical idea, and having watched it emerge from the discussions over the past couple of weeks, I really applaud the consensual method) to create a working distro that addresses the needs of tomorrow's computer users, unlike the bloatware that is increasingly irrelevant and inherently expensive to use, and that never succeeds in emerging productively from the morass of contraditictions that is the DRM world. You can work with each other (all of us) to create better installers, that deliver not just simpler install routines but also address the mix of h/w and peripherals in the real world. You can help put together a visual platform (qua Aqua) that will deliver designs that match anything that comes from the Mac world (the only competition, as far as this aspect is concerned, IMHO Vista is so far behind, you wonder - well, I wonder - whether they even know what visual delight means). And then there's work pending on a FOSS mobile interface to deliver the announced features of the iPhone for an Indian audience (localised, the works) - that will run on any Linux-enabled mobile box. In the legal playing field, the FOSS movement in India doesn't have the kind of groundswell 'critical mass' to pursue court battles against restrictive practices such as the unsigned pamphlet the Bombay Police put out for cybercafes. We need to identify the root causes of this apathy (ie, it is awareness? is it funding?) and address them in a structured manner. As we all know, there are many more restrictive practices in place that make it difficult for ordinary users to switch comfortably. We need to find a way of placing people in key organisations in the civil society movement (many of these organisations pay quite well, actually, and prefer persons who have an all-round approach to work, rather than tightly focused on, say, being a sysad 24/7). Such people will play a key role in bring such organisations directly into the FOSS movement. We also need to make visible persons who work in medium and large commercial organsations to come and talk - at LUG meets, for instance - on the use of FOSS in their operations. Just some food for thought. If some or all of these things begin to happen, you can be sure that the developers in the 'doze world will think twice about letting restrictive software out into the real world. I just saw Nagarjuna's post about being at HBSCE all of today, and must say, talk about communication gap, I didn't notice ANY post from anyone saying the venue would be available all day. I could easily have been there earlier, but am now committed to only getting there in the evening. Vickram ___________________________________________________________ Inbox full of unwanted email? Get leading protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Re: LUG Meet btwn 4/2 and 4/9
by Easwar Hariharan 30 Mar '07

30 Mar '07

> > As the subject line says, Prof. CN Krishnan of NRCFOSS, Chennai is also to > be > in Mumbai on the 5th of April. Can we have a meet in the evening on 5th? > But > it'll need to be after around 6 pm. > If it's on 4/8 after 5:30 pm,I might be able to attend my first LUG meet.Pleaaase! :)And BTW,what is the location? Regards, Easwar

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French Parliament will switch from Microsoft to Ubuntu
by Vihan Pandey 30 Mar '07

30 Mar '07

Good Stuff! http://news.softpedia.com/news/French-Parliament-Will-Switch-from-Microsoft… Regards, - vihan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] bash proxy settings
by Koustubha Kale 30 Mar '07

30 Mar '07

>On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:20:02 +0530, "____________ (Anand M R)" ><libld.so(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > I tried the above but now when i try to ping www.google.com > ping: unknown host www.google.com is what i get. > >The problem lies in the DNS. > >When you set the proxy, http requests go through the proxy.. including >the url.. so if the proxy server machine has a DNS resolver IP >configured, the proxy will be able to resolve the IP and thus will be >able to get the data. > >But when you ping from your machine, it does not know how to reach the >pinged machine as you niether have it in /etc/hosts nor have you >configured a DNS resolver IP on your machine. > >So you have to configure a DNS resolver IP on your machine if you want >to be able to ping. > >-- >Laxminarayan G Kamath A >laxminarayan(a)deeproot.co.in Not only that, a machine behind a proxy probabely wont have access to an external DNS server. Unless there is a firewall which is allowing outgoing DNS queries on port 53. Best way is to configure a caching DNS server on the proxy itself. And use that as the DNS server LAN wide. It would also speed up things a bit. With warm regards Koustubha Kale ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html

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bash proxy settings
by आनंद (Anand M R) 30 Mar '07

30 Mar '07

Could someone tell me how to configure proxy setting in bash. I found some links that mention the http_proxy variable to be set, but over there the proxy is of the format http://proxy.abc.com:80 now the proxy i'm using dosn't have the http:// in the begining :( Anand

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Mumbai cyber cafe license requirement makes Microsoft OS mandatory
by Frederick Noronha 29 Mar '07

29 Mar '07

Have just learnt that under the recently announced licensing scheme for the cyber cafes in Mumbai, the Mumbai police under its list of requirement vide point no 14 insists on a copy of Microsoft Open License. This license fee is apparently prohibitive and apparently still unclear on the licensing term for public use, and, restrains cyber cafe operators from choosing any other alternative operating systems. I would like to hear from others who have more details. Specially someone in Mumbai. --FN -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com What bloggers are saying about Goa: http://planet.goa-india.org/

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Dell promises Linux on notebooks and desktops
by Praveen A 29 Mar '07

29 Mar '07

Hi, Another complaint about GNU/Linux going to die -- It is hard to install, well you don't have to install if you go for Dell !! http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php?id=582207207&eid=-50 Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] help needed for making hdfcsec.com work onfirefox/opera
by bombay news 28 Mar '07

28 Mar '07

>From: "Chetan S" <cshring(a)gmail.com> >Reply-To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> >To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] help needed for making hdfcsec.com work >onfirefox/opera >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:30:35 +0530 >On 3/23/07, Philip Tellis <philip.tellis(a)gmx.net> wrote: >>Chetan S wrote: >> > On 3/23/07, bombay news <bombaynews(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Has anyone on this list traded on hdfcsec.com using firefox? If so >> >> what kind >> >> of tweaking is required to make firefox operational for this site. >> > >> > Please try faking the useragent to IE Windows, with this firefox >> > plugin - "User Agent Switcher" and check. >> >>Please don't do that, and don't tell people to do that. Every time a >>firefox user fakes his user agent, it gets logged as an IE user. The >>result is that their logs show an IE request. No reason for them to >>support ffx then. > >Umm. Other than suggest to not use hdfcsec, I would rather go with >using user agent switch AND log a bug/problem with hdfc IT support. > >On the brighter side the browser checks are often embedded in login >routines only :D > >I often write to site admins pointing out bugs in the rendering under >FF in Linux. That helps too. > >regards, >C > > writing to hdfcsec.com doesn't work. they revert back saying: please use windows with IE installed!!! enabling user switcher agent smartens up the login page, but the frame that enables one to trade doesn't load. I get the following message when I check the frame source: html> <head> <script language="javascript"> history.forward(); function checkKeys() { if (event.ctrlKey && event.keyCode==78) { event.keyCode=0; return false; } if(event.keyCode == 116) { alert("This function has been disabled"); event.keyCode = 0; event.returnValue = false; } } </script> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" leftmargin=0 topmargin=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0 onKeyDown="checkKeys();"> </body> </html> ---rgds Shiv Kumar _________________________________________________________________ Palate teasers: Straight from Master Chef Sanjeev Kapoor http://content.msn.co.in/Lifestyle/Moreonlifestyle/LifestylePT_101106_1530.…

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Info :- Open Source Router.
by bimal pandit 28 Mar '07

28 Mar '07

Dear All, recently, I found a great Linux Based Router and hence thought to share it with all of you... just look "Vyatta: Open-Source Networking" at http://www.vyatta.com/ regards, Bimal Pandit

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[Commercial] Fwd: Job opening :: Programmer Analyst
by Mrugesh Karnik 28 Mar '07

28 Mar '07

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Job opening :: Programmer Analyst Date: Monday 26 Mar 2007 From: "Arun K. Khan" <knura(a)yahoo.com> To: Mrugesh Karnik <mrugeshkarnik(a)gmail.com> Mrugesh, We have an opening for a Programmer Analyst. Reqs. are as follows: * 3-4 years of experience in developing web applications using best practice in software development methodologies. Must have had a significant role in 2-3 projects (enterprise applications). * Experience with Rapid Application Development (RAD) framework a plus. * Langs: PHP, Python, Java (helpful) * Database: MySQL, PostgreSQL - install, configure, and design/create schema for application under development. Knowledge of the SQL language for resp. DB engine. Familiarity with data replication a plus. * Application Server (a plus): Tomcat, JBoss, Websphere (community version) * Proficient with basic Sys. Admin tasks - installing Linux distros, installing and configuring the required services, tools and other packages necessary for developing and testing the application. * Proficient in English - must not be averse to documenting architecture, design, and test suites. Good presentation skills a plus. * Hardware: Knowledge of the PC components and basic hardware diagnosis a plus. * On the personal/soft skills side: A strong TEAM player, be able to lead junior programmers, resourceful, self reliant, responsible, dependable, takes pride in his/her work, an independent thinker with a penchant to analyze and solve problems rather than doing things blindly. * Salary: commensurate with experience and skill set. * Relocation: None. If you know of anyone who might be interested in above, please have them send their CV to me @ arun.khan(a)silverarc.biz. There is some flexibility in the reqs. if the candidate comes across as having the potential to take on the job. Thanks, -- Arun K. Khan <knura(a)yahoo.com> ------------------------------------------------------- -- ---------------------------------------- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net ----------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mumbai cyber cafe license requirement makes Microsoft OS mandatory
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

>> I am curious to know what are the M$ things users demand. I have not >> been to a cyber cafe for a long time, and hence have lost touch with >> the current state of things. > didnt you read mrugesh's post in this same thread? Sure I did. That is why I asked, because according to him the information was a few years old. In any case, I think the learning curve of GIMP and Blender will never be as steep as keeping a Windows machine virus free. Why? This is because the latter is close to impossible. Moreover customers do not appreciate going to a cyber cafe just to plug in their floppy or pendrive and have a virus remove all their precious data. Secondly a cyber cafe is a place people primarily for browsing the Web using a Web browser. I am not sure how many cyber cafe's have the necessary bandwidth to allow _all_ their users to _simultaneously_ engage in voice chat or video chat. Therefore a viable alternative is to earmark a few machines which are only going to be used only for browsing (and some text based IM) to be converted into GNU/Linux or *BSD or any other free operating system. Moreover it would be nice to have the cyber cafe association issue a press release expressing their preference towards free software wherever feasible. It would be an excellant oppurtunity to let the comman man taste free software. Regards, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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help needed for making hdfcsec.com work on firefox/opera
by bombay news 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

Has anyone on this list traded on hdfcsec.com using firefox? If so what kind of tweaking is required to make firefox operational for this site. there is an IEs4linux 'alternative' available, but I am worried abt security. Shiv Kumar _________________________________________________________________ Tried the new MSN Messenger? Its cool! Download now. http://messenger.msn.com/Download/Default.aspx?mkt=en-in

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mumbai cyber cafe license requirement makes Microsoft OS mandatory
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

> Here is one small example: > In Feb 2007, M$ with the help of local police started raiding on different > places in West Bengal for pirated windows. > As they came to Durgapur (Dist Burdwan), the local cybercafe owners were too > tensed , some of them closed their shops until those people went back. But > some others chose GNU/Linux right away. Our LUG members installed GNU/Linux > in few of the cafes , where in some they installed themselves. And they are > happy with it, they don't want to go back to windows any more. Great job! Keep it up. > That means it can be done in a larger scale. For that you need people who have the ability to dream, instead of laughing at them. :-) Happy hacking, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mumbai cyber cafe license requirement makes Microsoft OS mandatory
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

> http://www.in.redhat.com/AppComparisonList.php3 This one says there is a Corel Draw for GNU/Linux too. 'Pirated' copies of it might be unavailable, but then using unauthorised copies is just another problem waiting to catch up with the cyber cafes. Regards, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 47, Issue 53
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 26 Mar '07

26 Mar '07

> for a person who hasnt visited a cybercafe You are misquoting. I said I have not visited one for a long time. >> Moreover customers do not >> appreciate going to a cyber cafe just to plug in their floppy or >> pendrive and have a virus remove all their precious data. > doesnt happen What does not happen? >> Secondly a cyber cafe is a place people primarily for browsing the Web >> using a Web browser. > how do you know this? That was how things were last time I paid a visit. >> I am not sure how many cyber cafe's have the >> necessary bandwidth to allow _all_ their users to _simultaneously_ >> engage in voice chat or video chat. > if you are not sure, why post on it? <OT> /me remembers those days when someone with no idea of the GPL and the BSD license would argue how one is good and the other is bad </OT> > even if they have *one* doze machine they have to pay the full > licensing fee So what is the problem? Let them pay it then, if it is indeed 'impossible' to try any other alternative, and fight the directive in court or wherever applicable. >> I do not have a cyber cafe anywhere with 4km of where I have been >> living for the past 4 years. > if you want to post on this thread, travel and study first So are you the maintainer of this thread or the new ListAdmin of this mailing list? > how much does your institute charge per hour for the use? Less than 20 paise per hour. > Are you serious in comparing engineering college students with the average > cybercafe user Yes, why not? If you think the average Turbo C++/Windows loving Indian engineering student is any different than the average cyber cafe user, then you are badly misguided. > > Want some proof? Here it is: > > http://glug-nith.org/~spectre/?article=20070129-0108-NITH-Takeover > i dont see any proof You are either blind or a liar. Regards, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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Localization Usability Workshop for Gujarati
by Rahulkrishna Gupta 26 Mar '07

26 Mar '07

Hi, Novell is working on a localization project for the GNOME desktop environment. We have done localization in 5 Indian Languages Bengali Hindi Gujarati Marathi Tamil We are planning Localization Usability workshop for Gujarati whereby we are inviting people to test the Gujarati localization and provide their feedback. We will compile this feedback and use it for improving the Gujarati localization status. The schedule and venue are mentioned below: Language: Gujarati Venue: Mumbai (Novell Office) Date: March 31, 2007 We are looking for 10 volunteers for this Usability Workshop. Volunteers should either be regulars user of desktop with a Gujarati interface or should be able to read, write and speak Gujarati well. In case you are interested in contributing towards this effort, please contact me either on the list. Let me know if you want to communicate off-list. Thanks. Regards, RahulKrishna Gupta Novell India Pvt. Ltd. (O) +91-22-28342244

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mumbai cyber cafe license requirement makes Microsoft OS mandatory
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 26 Mar '07

26 Mar '07

>> In any case, I think the learning curve of GIMP and Blender will never >> be as steep as keeping a Windows machine virus free. Why? This is >> because the latter is close to impossible. Moreover customers do not >> appreciate going to a cyber cafe just to plug in their floppy or > pendrive and have a virus remove all their precious data. > Oh give me a break and be practical for once. Bad joke. > I've not had a single virus or > spyware on my Windows box for over 3 years. We've had Rony on the list who > had to reinstalled Windows after a considerable amount of time. If you use it > properly, its pretty manageable. Yeah every customer in the cafe might not, Out of the whole crowd of Windows users, how many qualify into the category you are talking about? > but then in the cafe I converted, the owner would run anti-spyware and > anti-virus scans thoroughly every night before he left. He hadn't had a > problem even once. > Dream on. I've seen that happening. A couple of the people having webcam > sessions and a few others playing Counter Strike online simultaneously on a > 512K line. Then again, the cafe soon switched to a very affordable 1M > connection. How many is 'a couple and few others'? > You'll lose even more users rather than gaining them if you try this. Trying > to pull out people from their comfort zone is a bad idea if tried > aggressively. Have patience and go gradually. Asking people to use Firefox is pulling them out of their comfort zone? And who asked you to try aggressively? And who did not have patience? You would do well to read a mail properly before replying. > And seriously, NO ONE is interested in freedom. They aren't > interested in learning about it either. Is it? Then why don't they pay the tax or fee and get on with it? Freedom is not about understanding patent and copyright laws, it is about knowing that you can legally copy and distribute the software. > Seriously, get out of your self spunfreedom cocoon and be practical. *sigh* >> Moreover it would be nice to have the cyber cafe association issue a >> press release expressing their preference towards free software >> wherever feasible. It would be an excellant oppurtunity to let the >> comman man taste free software. > LMAO! You might end up laughing with a naked arse. > P.S. And btw, next time you reply to this thread, try to make sure that you've > actually done something about this issue. I do not have a cyber cafe anywhere with 4km of where I have been living for the past 4 years. The only place that is mainly used for Internet and Web browsing is my institute's computer centre, where every machine runs Ubuntu. The centre has always been haunted by first year guys who do not have a computer of their own, and there has been no decrease in this trend. Not a single soul had to be trained to use Firefox on Ubuntu. Want some proof? Here it is: http://glug-nith.org/~spectre/?article=20070129-0108-NITH-Takeover God save you, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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modem reboot script for GLB-502T
by Rohit V Bhute 25 Mar '07

25 Mar '07

Got my Triband working today :-)) . Did a little googling for rebooting the modem. From 1. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expect> and 2. <http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-programming-scripting/63702-can-you-…> I think this little script for rebooting a GLB-502T can be scheduled with cron. Its bound to work for other modems too; with some modifications. <script> #!/usr/bin/expect spawn telnet 192.168.1.1 expect "BusyBox on localhost login: " send "root\r" expect "Password: " send "password\r" expect "# " send "reboot\r" expect "%" send "exit\r" expect eof </script> Is surely better than timers and such. Regards. -- Rohit V. Bhute http://blog.rvbhute.org

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OO.o Summer of Code 2007
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 25 Mar '07

25 Mar '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [Apologies for the wide circulation through the cross post] This page is here to collect the suitable suggestions. So - if you have a task that is challenging enough, and are willing to mentor the task, feel free to add it below. coordinate with the project lead and make sure you apply as a mentor. Each entry should contain the task description, required skills, project mailing list for discussion and personal contact. Links to the To-Dos are appreciated provided that the task is well described there ;-) http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2007 - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGBDUHXQZpNTcrCzMRAusdAJwIQuFXp4RX2g9DobotF+++lyJHTQCgpFil j3xayD6snEZ0JoNkStMAIy4= =A4xy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mumbai cyber cafe license requirement makes Microsoft OS mandatory
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 25 Mar '07

25 Mar '07

> The cafe owners would n't be much interested in terms like FOSS and free > software, whichwould be difficult for them to digest. Not really. It is true that they won't bother about _all_ the freedoms, but when you tell them you can freely copy the thing and distribute (for price or no price) among fellow cafe owners and oher people, they would surely be interested. After all they are already feeling the heat due ti the licensing fees isn't it. > It would be beneficial to concentrate > on cost ( free as in inexpensive or phukat in Marathi :) ) . So , if any > of the members on the list are aware of the cost of the pricing ( licensing > and others if any ) , it can be shown how much money they can saved by > the cafe owners. I am sure that in the money saved they will be able to buy > atleast one more computer. True. > correct - stick to converting the server. Nothing else will work. I am curious to know what are the M$ things users demand. I have not been to a cyber cafe for a long time, and hence have lost touch with the current state of things. Regards, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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YET another reason to use Emacs :-)
by Vihan Pandey 24 Mar '07

24 Mar '07

Hello, Hard core emacs users probably know this, but those who don't here goes : Emacs has a tetris buffer !!! :-) In an open window do : M-x tetris and play Tetris :-) As it is an Emacs buffer just kill it with C-x k Enjoy :-) And thanks to Chaitanya ``C.G" Gupta for telling me this :-) Regards, - vihan

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A Stallman article - circa 1986
by Vihan Pandey 24 Mar '07

24 Mar '07

Hello, This is an interesting article written around 1986 by Stallman - around the epoch of the GNU project. Enjoy!!! http://www.donhopkins.com/drupal/node/109?dupe=with_honor Thanks Chaitanya for telling me about this :-) Regards, - vihan

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Re: Ayttm GTK2 Port
by Kartik Mistry 24 Mar '07

24 Mar '07

Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > The gtk2 port of Ayttm is in CVS. You can check it out from the > gtk2-port branch. (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ayttm) Hi, Can you give exact location where gtk2 branch is? ayttm-gtk2 branch seems very old (last commit was 2 years ago!) http://ayttm.cvs.sourceforge.net/ayttm/ayttm-gtk2/ ~ Kartik

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Fwd: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mumbai cyber cafe license requirement makes Microsoft OS mandatory
by Mitul Limbani 23 Mar '07

23 Mar '07

Hello fella linuxers, This is the email that have recieved from the Cyber Cafe Association President, As I am currently not in India, it would be great if a few luggers can meetup and discuss how we can move step further in a positive direction with Floss. Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com ----- Forwarded message from contact(a)apiap.org ----- Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:21:12 +0530 From: Ashish Saboo <contact(a)apiap.org> Reply-To: contact(a)apiap.org Subject: on cyber cafe os issue To: Mitul Limbani <mitul(a)enterux.com> Dear Mitul, Thanks for your concern. Yes its unfortunate that the license scheme for cyber cafe in Mumbai has been a contentious issue. The cost for license is very high so many can't afford it . so either they will go out of business or go underground. either way it is the loss of Mumbaikers who depend on Internet cafes and the enforcement department in tracking down the grey cyber cafes . It will unintentionally criminalise many. The way out may be if the cyber cafe operators are exposed alternative option in software which fits their budget. atleast they will have a choice. Here FOSS advocates to have a role to make others aware that they do exist. Internet Cafes can be a big partner do remember 40% of Indian netizens depend on Cyber cafe . & just less than 5% of Indians are aware of Internet. cheers & best wishes Ashish Saboo President Association of Public ICT Tools Access Provider URL : http://www.apiap.org Blog: http://apiap.blogspot.com News: http://internetcafenews.blogspot.com alt email : apiap(a)rediffmail.com ----- End forwarded message -----

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Ayttm GTK2 Port
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 23 Mar '07

23 Mar '07

Hi, The gtk2 port of Ayttm is in CVS. You can check it out from the gtk2-port branch. (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ayttm) -- Siddhesh Poyarekar http://siddhesh.tk

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Forbes.com: Toppling Linux
by Dinesh Shah 23 Mar '07

23 Mar '07

Software radical Richard Stallman helped build the Linux revolution. Now he threatens to tear it apart. http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/1030/104_print.html -- --Dinesh Shah :-)

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[ANNOUNCE] Freedel 2007
by Raj Mathur 22 Mar '07

22 Mar '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ILUG Delhi is proud to announce yet another incarnation of it's annual FLOSS event, Freedel 2007. Book: September 28 and 29 (Friday and Saturday) to be in Delhi and join us for 2 days of FLOSS, fun, feasting and freaking out. Some of the changes you will notice when you join us Freedel this year are: Topic and level driven. All talks and workshops will be categorised into one of the following streams: - - System administration - - Collaboration and Communications - - Scientific and Research Tools - - Native Language Computing - - Legal aspects of FLOSS (licensing, DRM, policy, etc.) - - FLOSS in India, community, etc. Within each stream, all talks and workshops will be categorised by relevance to Beginner, Intermediate and Advanced users of FLOSS. No matter what your experience with FLOSS, there will be something of interest to you. Variety of talks. Freedel 2007 will have a wide range of items on the agenda, including seminar-style talks, BoF sessions, in-depth workshops and panel discussions. Suggestions on items to include in the agenda are always welcome. Community driven. We are actively inviting LUGs and other interested bodies to work with us on Freedel 2007 from Day 1 and become part of a larger effort. Expect a formal announcement for participation soon. New partner. In 2004 it was Jamia Hamdard, in 2005 PHDCCI and in 2006 JNU. Who's the Freedel partner going to be in 2007? Well, I can't tell you just yet, but keep your ears, and eyes and minds open :) We're discussing partnership with an eminent body, and hope to have things finalised by the end of this month. Suggestions? Questions? Willingness to participate? General chit-chat about the event? Please join the Freedel mailing list at: freedel(a)etc.kandalaya.org To subscribe, send an empty message to mailto:freedel-request@etc.kandalaya.org?subject=subscribe with just the word subscribe in the subject line. Please report any issues to me. Please forward to any fora you think this message may be relevant. Look forward to your joining us! Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur raju(a)kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGAnwQyWjQ78xo0X8RAibrAJ4pw63GacVCw77+swzkCNivjEZ4rwCfWKa1 Doa/0QJUZpleynlJafFKXgI= =8PHI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[Fwd: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Freedel 2007]
by Parthan 22 Mar '07

22 Mar '07

-- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan [Blog] http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com [Album] http://flickr.com/photos/techno_freak/

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Minutes of March GLUG-Meet @ Netmagic, Goregaon
by Roshan 22 Mar '07

22 Mar '07

Hello All, Anurag has compiled the minutes of the meet with contributions from me. ------------------------------------------------- *Minutes of March GLUG-Meet @ Netmagic, Goregaon* The GNU/Linux Users Group of Mumbai held its March 2007 GLUG meet on 18th March 2007 at Netmagic Solutions, Goregaon. This meet was attended by about 16 people coming from all over the city. Following talks and discussions were held. * Xen - A Brief Introducion Anurag started with a small introduction on Xen hypervisor and getting started with a debian guest. He demonstrated how to get a base guest working on an ubuntu system running on xen enabled kernel. * NRCFOSS - Activities Kenneth talked about NRCFOSS and the activities it has been doing in the field of education -- Tea, Coffee, Soft drinks and Snacks sessions followed accompanied with random discussions on random topics. * Python - Getting started Krishnakant took a hands on session on how effective python can be as a teaching tool for beginner programmers. He demonstrated how simple and quick python can be to teach complex concepts like OOP programming. And another eventful GLUG meet came to an end. Many thanks to Dhawal and Netmagic solutions for arranging everything. --------------------------------------------- For a detailed version, you can visit the following URL at the wiki http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/18Mar2007 (Phew! Finally the wiki is up and running ;) ) -- FSF of India Associate Fellow http://www.gnu.org.in http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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KDE 4.0 Release Schedule.
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 21 Mar '07

21 Mar '07

Hi, I have been asked many times about KDE 4.0 release date and such. Often, I didnot have the *exact* and *correct* reply. 4MLOC to port and maintain can't be joke and I didn't want to give any false positives to anybody. I am sure some of you have faced this problem as well. Anyways, incase you are not a regular on the dot, this is for you [1]. KDE 4.0 release schedule was published a while back. [1] http://dot.kde.org/1174481326/ Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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RE: is this foss?
by james mathew 20 Mar '07

20 Mar '07

>In all these cases, it is custom built software with one client. But >suppose state A had released the code and made it available. Would'nt >B and C save a large sum by re-using what A had released and >modifying it to suit local conditions. Or suppose state C had >released the code and made it available? Wouldnt that be FOSS inspite >of the fact that it is written using proprietary tools and runs on a >proprietary platform? While agreeing that the benifits of Free Software cannot be fully exploited unless unrestricted sharing of code takes place, it is not a cakewalk as my friend imagines. It's a result of real dedicated work at the grassroots. People relaxing on top of utopian clouds may find it difficult to imbibe the intricateimplementaion strategies. The migration can take place only by gradually building up confidence. We can't expect the govts to blindly endorse Free Software by being seduced by its philosophy alone. We have to show them that it is indeed a working model. The book about which we are discussing here clearly states that it is a compilation of 'FOSS based' projects in the PSEs of Kerala. Please understand that we are talking about 'FOSS based' projects and nothing else. So we now have some solid working models to substantiate our campaigning. Now don't think that we are absolutely complacent about all that we have done. We are very much interested in taking this to the next level and this issue is addressed in the draft of the current IT policy. <quote> 8.4 The Government is of the view that knowledge generated through public funding should be freely available to the public. Facilities will be developed to ensure the same. </quote> Once this draft is finalised, all the issues that my friend is being worried about can be put to rest. >So when we talk of spreading FOSS, are we talking of spreading the usage of the foss tools and platform or are we >talking of spreading the culture of sharing of code? It should be a mix of both >In my opinion, the tools and platform >are irrelevant - the criterion is: is the code shared or not. If so, >it is foss, if not it is proprietary. Which means i would prefer a >government that commissions code in VB and shares it to a government that does it in python and doesnt share it. Abolutely misguided opinion. >The companies that bid for these contracts oppose the sharing for the >simple reason that they follow the proprietary profit model of write >once, sell many times and feel sharing will eat into their profits. Please understand that paying once for a custom made software(of which they will have absolute control) is far better than giving huge amounts as license fees to propreitary companies. >> say in a trivial sense that it's Free Software. There's only one user >> and that user is free. No user has been subjugated; no one is being >> mistreated in this way. Of course there are always other ethical >> issues that might enter the situation. There are many ethical issues >> in life, but in this one particular ethical issue, at least in that >> case, nothing wrong is being done. >this is not really relevant as we are talking not of individuals but >of public bodies Please note that a 'user' need not be an indivudual. >>Here all Govt./Aided >> high schools use "Free Software", >could you elaborate on this? What free software do they use? Is the >syllabus available for perusal? Please have a look link for some details. http://www.rediff.com/money/2006/sep/02microsoft.htm James -- HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!

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USBView
by Mohan Nayaka 20 Mar '07

20 Mar '07

Another debugging aid for USB devices : from gregkh http://www.kroah.com/linux/usb/ It depends on gtk1.2 though. Regards, Mohan S N -- Never look up when dragons fly overhead.

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beautiful
by Vihan Pandey 20 Mar '07

20 Mar '07

*sigh* there are few pieces of text that can touch people in today's world. This is one of them. Check Out : http://dir.salon.com/story/tech/feature/1999/11/30/lions/index.html Regards, - vihan

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Python Book link (plus OT)
by Roshan 20 Mar '07

20 Mar '07

Hello List, Before you assume anything, this isn't related to changing my nick on #l-i, or something of that sort. ;) I had heard about python, sometime ago and today's talk on python just influenced to do a google search on it. Luckily found a link and thought it was worth sharing. http://www.byteofpython.info/read/index.html [OT] BTW, "Thanks for hosting GLUG Meet - Dhawal" The minutes will be up on the wiki (if it is up and running), or atleast on the home page of glug-bom.org within few days. [/OT] -- FSF of India Associate Fellow http://www.gnu.org.in To err, may be human, but the reverse is not true. __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Selecting PPPOE Access Concentrator
by Aniket Bharaswadkar 19 Mar '07

19 Mar '07

> > Dear friends... > my pppoe cant login to the server due to wrong information about > access concentrator, > > when i pppoe-discover services on my one and only eth0 interface, it > displays 3 services and 3 access concentrators. > > by default it is selecting the wrong AC and Service, and I want to > select 3rd service > > how do i select the correct one of them and log in success fully > > Thanks > If using Ubuntu , edit the file "/etc/ppp/pppoe" . In that there is option to specify the access conc name . If using fedora , "system-config-network" GUI will do the trick for you. -- The Future is Open...The Future is LINUX

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Selecting PPPOE Access Concentrator
by (रेवंत) Revan t Nandgaonkar 19 Mar '07

19 Mar '07

Dear friends... my pppoe cant login to the server due to wrong information about access concentrator, when i pppoe-discover services on my one and only eth0 interface, it displays 3 services and 3 access concentrators. by default it is selecting the wrong AC and Service, and I want to select 3rd service how do i select the correct one of them and log in success fully Thanks

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Airtel Data Card on Ubuntu
by Javed Rahman 19 Mar '07

19 Mar '07

Hi, Has anyone used an AirTel Data Card on Ubuntu to access the internet? Any tips on how to do this? I haven't bought the card yet. I just wanna make sure it works before i buy it. Just in case this is helpful : I am using ubuntu edgy on a sony vaio vgn-fe48g. Thanks in advance, Javed.

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[Commercial] Web developers / programmers needed
by Prayas Abhinav 19 Mar '07

19 Mar '07

Hi All, We need web programmers for some projects. Details about the company / position are given below.Those who are interested may send CVs to media.apricot(a)gmail.com. best wishes, Prayas Abhinav (for Apricot Media) ---- <<Company:>> Apricot Media is a production house based in Mumbai with strong interests in new media. We have produced numerous programmes for television. "Business Baazigar" was a recent reality based programme which was aired on ZEE TV. Presently, we are expanding our reach to young, NRI and other audiences through developing web-based interfaces. We are seeking web programmers / developers for our team for these projects. <<Description:>> We have initiated some inter-connected web projects broadly related to online video, online communities, social entrepreneurship etc. Programmers with the following skills can write to us: << Requirement: >> * Deep experience developing web applications using Linux/Apache/mySQL/PHP (LAMP) * Excellent CSS/HTML/JavaScript skills * Web 2.0, AJAX experience - AJAX frameworks - Prototype, DOJO, Cake PHP etc * Performance and monitoring of php application * Strong knowledge of current web standards & browser/platform compatibility issues * Curiousity to learn about new web technologies and approaches Salary is competitive and negotiable. Pls send your CV to media.apricot(a)gmail.com. Our office is at Lokhandwala Circle, Andheri (W), Mumbai.

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Swathanthra Malayalam Computing in Google Summer of Code
by Praveen A 19 Mar '07

19 Mar '07

Hi, Students want to contribute to Free Software and earn some money during this summer can apply for Google Summer or Code with Swathanthra Malayalam Computing. Students can apply for working on one of these ideas (Especially adding more Indian languages to Dhvani text to speech engine). http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/SMC/SoC/2007 Regards Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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GNOWSYS project in google summer of code
by Nagarjuna G. 19 Mar '07

19 Mar '07

Students willing to join google's summer of code may want to consider contributing to GNOWSYS or other GNU projects listed at http://www.gnu.org/software/soc-projects/ideas.html. Those students who are selected for the project will be compensated by Google of which a small amount will also be contributed to FSF. Those of you who wish to spend your holiday time for learning, earning and contributing to free software, you can use this opportunity. Nagarjuna

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Vijay has Tagged you! :)
by Philip Tellis 19 Mar '07

19 Mar '07

Vijay Alluru wrote: > Vijay A has added you as a friend > Is Vijay A your friend? > > Please respond or Vijay may think you said no :( If Vijay _is_ a friend of someone on this list, please let him know that he is no longer a member of this list.

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Members at GLUG-BOM March 2007 meet
by Roshan 18 Mar '07

18 Mar '07

Hello All, (Except the host) Add your name as a reply to this email if you are attending the meet on 18th March at 2 PM. BTW, the topics haven't been decided yet (except one I guess)! Is one allowed to carry a distro CD to the location? If yes, please get a few copies of Ubuntu / Kubuntu 6.10 -- FSF of India Associate Fellow http://www.gnu.org.in Continue to live as you would, without troubling others :) __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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glug-bom.org's home page (suggestion)
by Roshan 17 Mar '07

17 Mar '07

Hello List, In the last week, I went through a few pages on gnu.org and found the link to GNU/Linux User Group, Bombay as http://www.ilug-bom.org.in which, as informed has expired, and also does not offer redirection. I sent an email to the webmaster change it to glug-bom.org and the same has been reflected now. I have a small suggestion for the home page, not sure whether it is really a great idea, but seems to be reasonably good to me. An image from the Picture Gallery could be in place of the meet's summary that would randomly change each time a user visits the website / refreshes the home page. Every month's meet summary could be put up at the same location for a few days (may be <=3 days). It will also be put up on the wiki. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow http://www.gnu.org.in http://www.india.gov.in __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Vijay has Tagged you! :)
by Vijay Alluru 17 Mar '07

17 Mar '07

[imgsrv.php?uid=25067574] Vijay A, 57 India Vijay A has added you as a friend Is Vijay A your friend? Please respond or Vijay may think you said no :( [1]Click here to unsubscribe from Tagged, P.O. Box 193152 San Francisco, CA 94119-3152 References Visible links 1. http://www.taggedmail.com/no_more.html?unsem=linuxers%40mm.ilug-bom.org.in&… Hidden links: 2. http://www.taggedmail.com/welcome.html?conn=1vkej902l&ect=41cn2u5&tId=13006… 3. http://www.taggedmail.com/welcome.html?conn=1vkej902l&ect=41cn2u5&tId=13006…

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Help:LPI examination
by laxxi25 16 Mar '07

16 Mar '07

Hi, I want to give the LPI exams.Could anyone please tell me how do i go about giving this exam.Where are the exam centers in Mumbai.How do i prepare for the exams etc.. Regards Laxmikant S Gatcchi Have you checked out the new-look www.indiatimes.com yet?

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Google Summer of Code http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html
by Frederick Noronha 16 Mar '07

16 Mar '07

http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html Google Summer of Code Google Summer of Code 2007 is on! We are now accepting student applications. We've also published some additional web app documentation for mentors and organization administrators. All the information for participants in Google Summer of Code 2007, including student abstracts and other information provided by them, is available by visiting the individual mentoring organization pages below. Mentoring Organizations Participating in Google Summer of Code 2007 AbiSource (ideas) Adium (ideas) Aqsis Team (ideas) Ardour (ideas) ArgoUML (ideas) Audacious Media Player (ideas) Bazaar (ideas) BBC Research (ideas) Beagle (ideas) Blender Foundation (ideas) Boost C++ (ideas) BZFlag (ideas) Casetta (ideas) Center for the Study of Complex Systems (CSCS), University of Michigan (ideas) CLAM ( at the Universitat Pompeu Fabra) (ideas) Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility (ideas) Coppermine Photo Gallery (ideas) coresystems GmbH (ideas) Creative Commons (ideas) Crystal Space (ideas) Debian (ideas) Detached Solutions (ideas) Dojo Foundation (ideas) Drupal (ideas) DSpace (ideas) Eclipse (ideas) Etherboot Project (ideas) eXist (ideas) FANN - The Fast Artificial Neural Network Library (ideas) FFmpeg (ideas) Fityk (ideas) FreeBSD (ideas) Freenet Project Inc (ideas) Freevo (ideas) Gaim (ideas) Gallery (ideas) GCC (ideas) Geeklog (ideas) GenMAPP (ideas) Gentoo Foundation (ideas) Git Development Community (ideas) GNOME (ideas) GNU Project (ideas) GnuCash (ideas) GNUstep (ideas) Google (ideas) Haiku (ideas) Handhelds.org (ideas) Haskell.org (ideas) hugin / panotools (ideas) IEM - Institute of Electronic Music and Acoustics, Graz (ideas) ikiwiki (ideas) Inkscape (ideas) Internet2 (ideas) Jikes RVM (ideas) Joomla! (ideas) K-3D (ideas) KDE (ideas) Lanka Software Foundation (ideas) Liblime (ideas) LispNYC.org (ideas) LLVM Compiler Infrastructure (ideas) MacPorts (ideas) maemo (ideas) MetaBrainz Foundation (ideas) Mixxx (ideas) MoinMoin Wiki Project (ideas) Mono Project (ideas) Moodle (ideas) Mozilla Foundation (ideas) MySQL AB (ideas) National Evolutionary Synthesis Center (NESCent), Phyloinformatics Group (ideas) Nmap Security Scanner (ideas) OGRE (ideas) Open Security Foundation (OSVDB) (ideas) Open Source Applications Foundation (ideas) OpenICC (ideas) OpenMoko (ideas) OpenMRS (ideas) OpenOffice.org (ideas) OpenSolaris (ideas) Oregon State University Open Source Lab (OSU OSL) (ideas) OSCAR (ideas) OSGeo (ideas) PHP (ideas) Plan 9 from Bell Labs (ideas) PlanetMath (ideas) Plone Foundation (ideas) Portland State University (ideas) PostgreSQL project (ideas) Python Software Foundation (ideas) Robert H. Lurie Comprehensive Cancer Center of Northwestern University (ideas) Rockbox (ideas) Ruby Central, Inc. (ideas) Samba (ideas) SCons Foundation: Next-Generation Build Tool (ideas) Scribus Development Team (ideas) ScummVM (ideas) SilverStripe Limited (ideas) SIP Communicator (ideas) Sparse (ideas) Squeak (ideas) SquirrelMail (ideas) Subversion (ideas) Swarm Development Group (ideas) Swathanthra Malayalam Computing (ideas) Taste (ideas) The Apache Software Foundation (ideas) The Codehaus (ideas) The Electronic Frontier Foundation (ideas) The Fedora Project (ideas) The Free Software Initiative of Japan (ideas) The gEDA Project (ideas) The GGI Project (ideas) The NetBSD Project (ideas) The Space Telescope Science Institute (ideas) Thousand Parsec (ideas) Ubuntu (ideas) Umit Project (ideas) VideoLAN (ideas) Vim (ideas) Wikimedia Foundation (ideas) WinLibre (ideas) WordPress (ideas) wxPython (ideas) wxWidgets (ideas) X.Org (ideas) Xiph.org Foundation (ideas) XMMS2 (ideas) XMPP Standards Foundation (ideas) XWiki (ideas) Zope Foundation, Inc (ideas) We are no longer accepting applications from open source organizations. If you're feeling nostalgic, you can still access the Google Summer of Code 2005 and Google Summer of Code 2006 pages. We've also created a map (requires Google Earth) of all 2006 mentors and student participants for your perusal. Questions? Please peruse our FAQ and Terms of Service for more information about the program. If you still have questions, email us for support -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com What bloggers are saying about Goa: http://planet.goa-india.org/

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Reducing IT costs in Govt. Offices.
by Rony 16 Mar '07

16 Mar '07

Hello All, The points raised by Kenneth got me thinking about this issue and came up with an idea for long term cost reduction in IT. Right now every Govt. office where the IT is implemented, has to be visited by experts who are aware of software installation as well as setup, in order to install as well as upgrade software. The offices also need sys-admins to manage admin level tasks. For an entire State, it can be a daunting task if new software packages are to be implemented over all its computers. So here is a concept that is a mix of advantages of all the current systems like Computer farms, Thin client, Network install and Raid5. There is a central server which is a very powerful machine. It is connected to various other smaller servers in different locations, via broadband or a private network and they in turn connect to other machines directly or again through sub-servers. The entire network is mapped properly. The central server is the only machine thats manually loaded with the full softwares. The other machines install themselves automatically in a cascading manner from top to bottom. The entire process is already mapped and programmed into the central server. As each of the sub-servers come up, they install the machines under them and so on. Since all the machines have their own HDDs, they run independent of their parent servers in case the servers break down. If any machine's HDD crashes, then it is simply replaced and it automatically updates itself over the network. The manpower used to maintain the systems need not be software savvy, only hardware guys. Every day when the user switches on the pc, it checks for updates/upgrades automatically through the network and is up to date without any manual effort. So only a small team of experts is actually sitting in the central server room installing software packages or upgrading them, whereas all the other systems get updated automatically down the line. A test lab is setup permanently in the central server premises where there is a small server-client network that works as a test system before the software is implemented on the central server. A hardware compatibility list can be sent to all departments so they purchase/replace hardware based on that list only. Once the setup is complete, it will be available to all vendors so in future they can create packages based on this structure only. The sys-admins too are few and centrally located in a call center and they do the necessary admin tasks on the systems. No user gets admin access. -- Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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RE: is this foss?
by Vimal Joseph 16 Mar '07

16 Mar '07

Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: >an interesting discussion took place on IRC today regarding this: >http://www.space-kerala.org/downloads/foss.pdf sorry to head into this discussion a bit late. >The question was, with regard to #2 on the list - software developed >by keltron, is it foss or not? First, this book focus on the successful projects based on Free Software, implemented by the government/public sector organizations in Kerala. It is to show case the fact that FOSS is not just in theory, but successfully used by many organizations, especially in govt. sector. So It will help convince decision makers to go for Free Software. It also include an article by FSF India, to educate them why we should use Free Software. >My contention is that the tools used >are irrelevant. The software was paid for by the government, and >developed by the government, all using our tax rupees. I also agree with you completely. The draft IT Policy of Kerala Govt. says exactly the same. (http://itforum.kerala.gov.in/) <quote> 8.4 The Government is of the view that knowledge generated through public funding should be freely available to the public. Facilities will be developed to ensure the same. </quote> So we hope that in future all govt./public enterprises in Kerala will follow it. >But there is >no indication whether the source for the application is open or not, >available to the users or not, modifiable, downloadable or >redistributable or not. Therefore this is not f/oss as it goes >against the fundamental notion that software should be freely >available, downloadable, modifiable and redistributable with or >without modifications. All software mentioned in the book are custom made software for specific purpose of the different govt./public sector organizations. There is not much need to make those software distributable or made available to public. As those software are not public utility software. But all software mentioned in the book are made with Free Software and will work on a Free Software platform. So the organizations using those software need not go for proprietary platform to run the software. <quote> Richard M. Stallman (http://fsfeurope.org/documents/rms-fs-2006-03-09.en.html) Please note that the majority of software, nearly all software, is neither free nor proprietary, it is custom software developed for one particular user. If that one particular user has all these freedoms, say, if that user has the full rights to the software, then you might say in a trivial sense that it's Free Software. There's only one user and that user is free. No user has been subjugated; no one is being mistreated in this way. Of course there are always other ethical issues that might enter the situation. There are many ethical issues in life, but in this one particular ethical issue, at least in that case, nothing wrong is being done. </quote> >I was further of the opinion that the authors >of the PDF in question have tried to give an impression that free >software is flourishing in the state. It is a universal truth that Free Software is flourishing in Kerala. No one can Deny the fact. In Kerala, most of the population have some idea what Free Software (swathantra software) is. Here all Govt./Aided high schools use "Free Software", Most of the teachers and students know the evil of proprietary softwares. Also Govt. of Kerala with its IT Policy (http://itforum.kerala.gov.in) gave full support to Free Software. >However the free software guru with whom I was debating >seemed to thing that this did not fall under the definition of >proprietary software. Opinions anyone? As I quoted before, from a speech of RMS, the software mentioned in this book are neither proprietary nor free software, they are all custom software made using Free Software tools. The book is released before the Kerala Govt. published its draft of IT Policy. And in the policy it is clearly stated that all knowledge generated through public funding should be freely available to the public. So I hope in near future, all the software mentioned in the book may change its status from custom software to Free Software. And other states and countries will follow the model set by Kerala. regards, ~vimal

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Fwd: [foss.in] Open Source Camp Mumbai
by Roshan 16 Mar '07

16 Mar '07

-- vineetag_1999 wrote: > Date: 15 Mar 2007 20:24:19 -0700 > To: foss-in(a)yahoogroups.com > From: "vineetag_1999" <vineet(a)value-one.com> > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:26:08 -0000 > Subject: [foss.in] Open Source Camp Mumbai > > Hi All > > Open Source UnConference (BarCamp) is being > organized in Mumbai on 24 > March 2007. Come over for intense sessions on open > source and great > networking opportunity. No marketing talks, only > hardcore techie stuff!!! > > If you are going to be speaker or participating add > your name on the > wiki at http://barcamp.org/OssBarCampMumbai > > Regards > > Vineet Agrawal > http://www.osscube.com -- FSF of India Associate Fellow http://www.gnu.org.in GNU/Linux is an operating system, alternative to Windows __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Help:LPI examination
by Sameer Niphadkar 16 Mar '07

16 Mar '07

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 laxxi25 wrote : > >Hi, > >I want to give the LPI exams.Could anyone please tell me how do i go about giving this exam.Where are the exam centers in Mumbai.How do i prepare for the exams etc.. > LPI is a vendor independant exam, testing core linux sys-admin and networking skills. It has 3 levels junior, senior and expert with 2 tests per level. So u need to give 6 tests to be an expert, nevertheless the 1st 4 tests are equivalent to a RHCE. I hardly know anyone who has given all the 6 tests. In Mumbai there are few training centers at Andheri which offer LPI prep, the best way to get in touch with them is to contact Onward Novell at MIDC where these exams are conducted. You may google for more info of LPI and its prep material - and if you have some prior experience with Linux you can very well prepare on your own. http://digg.com/linux_unix/Automate_Linux_and_UNIX_using_shells_and_scripti… The above link may be a good place to start. All the best rgds Sameer 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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KDE Google Summer of Code
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 15 Mar '07

15 Mar '07

Hi folks, I am sure Google Summer of Code is nothing new to most of you people. So we have GSoC '07 even. And like previous years, even this year The KDE Project will be an mentor organisation. Some of you might have seen the dot[1] news. So I would really urge the students on the list who are familiar with C++ and Qt/KDE development to take part in SoC. So send in your proposals. Its a great way to learn new stuff and become a part of a FOSS project. Here are a few pointers [2] and [3]. Please note that [3] is a list of ideas that various mentors have put in. They are not the only ideas. You can come up with your own - say for your favourite KDE application - and recommend the same to the maintainer/author of that application. See what he/she says and work on the idea and put forth an proposal to google. If the mentors like your proposal and it gets selected nothing better than that. Go ahead and do some cool stuff. Now here's some simple points that I have realised from my last year's experience : While putting forth an proposal, don't be lazy and just cut/copy/paste what the mentor has already posted on [3]. Be original and explain what exactly you would like to do, how etc. Now if there are students on this list who think that they are not good in C++/Qt yet, especially the ones in 1st and 2nd year, fret not. You have an year or two to learn the same and work on it. And most importantly getting involved in FOSS - in this case Qt/KDE development doesnot need a SoC even. Just fix a bug or whatever - I am sure you know the drill or have heard it countless times. There is loads of source lying around, pick it up and get going. And trust me, your chances increase manifold if you already are an contributor. Because the mentors know that you can do stuff. Although that means nothing, last year I saw many students who were new and did an awesome job and some of them kept going on and are now actually contributing to various KDE projects. Good luck to all of you. [1]http://dot.kde.org/1173949256/ [2]http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Summer_of_Code/2007/Participation [3]http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Summer_of_Code/2007/Ideas [4]http://code.google.com/soc/student_step1.html Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Python Queries
by Sameer Niphadkar 15 Mar '07

15 Mar '07

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 Sameer Niphadkar wrote : >On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 Nikhil Marathe wrote : > >> > >>1) How does one get the exact value of an element down a tree like say : > >> <abc><xyz><pqr>100</pqr></xyz></abc> > >> > >> So in the above case say the value 100, though it could be a >>string >>as well. We require the exact value, not its representation >>in XML or >>ASCII value as explained by you in some books. > > > > > >You could get the node's value and pass it to python's eval >function. Since eval returns the parsed python expression it will >give a logical return value like 100 as an int and abcd as a string > > >Rigth now we are importing minidom lib and trying to parse it by element names like : > > reflist = xmldoc.getElementsByTagName("pqr") #For the case above > ref = reflist[0] > >Just as u mentioned..the node value. So do we need to pass reflist[0] i.e the 1st child here to the eval function ? Also could you please elaborate on this function. Actually this is what we were looking fwd to : #This is also true of re.split: >>> splitter = re.compile('<.>') >> splitter.split('hi<a>there<b>from<c>python') ['hi', 'there', 'from', 'python'] 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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suggestions/improvements on script maintaining persistent net connection
by Rohit V Bhute 15 Mar '07

15 Mar '07

Hello. I've put together a few commands in a Perl script that does two things: 1. Tries to maintain a steady net connection (using PPPoE) 2. Resumes a download if it was interrupted because of a break in the net connection. I am attaching the script here; any suggestions to make it more robust and generalized would be helpful. The wrapping makes it harder to read though. <script> #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; # variables my $ppp0 = ''; my $pppd = ''; my $wget = ''; my $url = "http://ftp.science.nus.edu.sg/linux/ubuntu-ISO/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-a…"; my $iso = "/home/rohit/download/iso/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-amd64.iso"; while (1) { # check for ppp0 $ppp0 = `/sbin/ifconfig | /bin/grep ppp0`; if ($ppp0 =~ /^ppp0/) { # Connection exists. # if ppp0 was down earlier, maybe our download got interrupted? $wget = `/bin/ps cax | /bin/grep wget`; unless ($wget =~ /wget/) { system("/usr/bin/wget -q -c $url -O $iso &"); } next; } # check for pppd $pppd = `/bin/ps cax | /bin/grep pppd`; if ($pppd =~ /pppd/) { next; # pppd is trying to get ppp0 up!! } # uh oh! we need to kill pppd # and launch the connection again system ("/usr/bin/killall -9 pppd"); system ("/usr/bin/pon dsl-provider"); #print "\a"; # remove this if the script works!! system ("sleep 60"); # Wait for 60 seconds } # end of script </script> Feedback appreciated. -- Rohit V. Bhute http://blog.rvbhute.org

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Linux survey for Dell notebooks and desktops
by Arun K. Khan 14 Mar '07

14 Mar '07

FWIW, Linux survey for Dell notebooks and desktops http://www.dell.com/linuxsurvey -- Arun K. Khan <knura(a)yahoo.com>

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Python Queries
by Sameer Niphadkar 14 Mar '07

14 Mar '07

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 Nikhil Marathe wrote : >> >>1) How does one get the exact value of an element down a tree like say : >> <abc><xyz><pqr>100</pqr></xyz></abc> >> >> So in the above case say the value 100, though it could be a >>string >>as well. We require the exact value, not its representation >>in XML or >>ASCII value as explained by you in some books. > > >You could get the node's value and pass it to python's eval >function. Since eval returns the parsed python expression it will >give a logical return value like 100 as an int and abcd as a string > Rigth now we are importing minidom lib and trying to parse it by element names like : reflist = xmldoc.getElementsByTagName("pqr") #For the case above ref = reflist[0] Just as u mentioned..the node value. So do we need to pass reflist[0] i.e the 1st child here to the eval function ? Also could you please elaborate on this function. >>3) Is there any way in which one can change the tag names or >>incorporate new elements ? > > >I am not that familiar with minidom but you can always copy all the >nodes attributes and children and remove the node and add another. >You should check the python library reference for the >xml.dom.minidompackage. Thnx, yes we are going thru the mindom, but is there a method available in this case ? >4) We are thinking about using QT for creating our frontend, how does >>python integrate with it ? If you could suggest any other GUI >>Designer for python then it would be great. > > >Qt and Python have very good interoperability due to the PyQt >bindings. In addition the pyuic tool can convert the .ui files >generated by Qt Designer to Python code.Sorry I couldn't provide >links, but I am really sleepy right now :D > > Np, but we just need to bind our script with QT, so I guess we may only need PyQT..am I right ? Thnks a lot for all the pointers though. rgds Sameer 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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Python Queries
by Sameer Niphadkar 14 Mar '07

14 Mar '07

Hi ppl, We are developing an open source project for fun as well as a for learning. To give you a brief idea of our project - its a client server application installer on XML as the repository and python is used for parsing and searching for elements. You may find the details here : http://code.google.com/p/ulair Now, though I went through the working and parsing of XML in various Python ref material, but I just had a few queries like : 1) How does one get the exact value of an element down a tree like say : <abc><xyz><pqr>100</pqr></xyz></abc> So in the above case say the value 100, though it could be a string as well. We require the exact value, not its representation in XML or ASCII value as explained by you in some books. 2) Is there any efficient way of searching for elements in a huge XML tree in python ? 3) Is there any way in which one can change the tag names or incorporate new elements ? 4) We are thinking about using QT for creating our frontend, how does python integrate with it ? If you could suggest any other GUI Designer for python then it would be great. I know some of these questions are ignorant. However it would be a great help if you could give us some insight by answering them or pointing us to some other refrences. If you would like to know anything more about our project then please do let me know. Thank you so much once again. rgds Sameer 'You will be what you WILL to Be' -James Allen

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[OT] Need Info on Web Hosting Service Provider
by Joel A Divekar 14 Mar '07

14 Mar '07

Hi AllI have a perl application which is actively being developed and managed by me since 2001.This application is used many shipping firms and I sell this software at very nominal one time cost. I provide free update / upgrade and support for this software. I am doing this to give back to the shipping community, which at one point helped me to stand back on my feets.I am currently working for a software firm and have to travel extensively in India and outside India and it become difficult for me to provide onsite / telephonic support. To resolve this problem I am thinking of making this a webbased application.Here I need help on following queriesa) Can anybody guide me with reliable gnu/linux based web hosting service provider who can support     perl / php / ruby / python and template engine like Catalyst / Smarty / Ruby on Rail / Cheetah.     With DB like postgresql. Also note I have very limited budget to work with.   b) Can anybody suggest programming language & templating engine for faster development    and easy maintainancePlease I dont want this to be a flame war or something. And please do not provide damaging information about any service provider. I would like this thread to be very informative to me aswell as gnu/linux community Thanks.RegardsJoel+91 9867572484

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[gratuitously OT][PATCH] Fix for problem in starting Limewire 4.12.11
by Mohan Nayaka 13 Mar '07

13 Mar '07

Hi all, I have GNU java 1.4.2 installed which Limewire 4.12.11 doesn't consider useful. I installed Sun's jre 1.5.0.11, but in my home directory. The startup scrip for Limewire couldn't handle this location. Hence this patch. I'm sending this patch to codepatch(a)lists.limewire.org too. --- runLime.sh 2007-03-13 23:27:04.000000000 +0530 +++ /home/neo/Limewire-clean/runLime.sh 2007-03-14 00:15:29.000000000+0530 @@ -23,6 +23,12 @@ look_for_java() { +# patch to look for java installed in home dir first + JAVA_EXEC_IN_HOME=$(find ~ -name "java") + JAVADIR=`echo $JAVA_EXEC_IN_HOME|sed -n 's/bin\/java//p'` + if look_for_javaImpl ; then + return 0 + fi JAVADIR=/usr/lib if look_for_javaImpl ; then return 0 @@ -35,22 +41,24 @@ if look_for_javaImpl ; then return 0 fi + +# try here too + JAVADIR=/usr + if look_for_javaImpl ; then + return 0 + fi return 1 } look_for_javaImpl() { - IFS=$'\n' - potential_java_dirs=(`ls -d1 "$JAVADIR"/j* | sort | tac`) - for D in "${potential_java_dirs[@]}"; do - if [[ -d "$D" && -x "$D/bin/java" ]]; then - JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR="$D/bin/" + if [ -x "$JAVADIR/bin/java" ]; then + JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR="$JAVADIR/bin/" echo $MSG2 $JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR if check_version ; then return 0 fi fi - done echo $MSG8 "${JAVADIR}/" $MSG9 ; echo $MSG4 return 1 } -- Never look up when dragons fly overhead.

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is this foss?
by Kenneth Gonsalves 13 Mar '07

13 Mar '07

hi, an interesting discussion took place on IRC today regarding this: http://www.space-kerala.org/downloads/foss.pdf The question was, with regard to #2 on the list - software developed by keltron, is it foss or not? My contention is that the tools used are irrelevant. The software was paid for by the government, and developed by the government, all using our tax rupees. But there is no indication whether the source for the application is open or not, available to the users or not, modifiable, downloadable or redistributable or not. Therefore this is not f/oss as it goes against the fundamental notion that software should be freely available, downloadable, modifiable and redistributeable with or without modifications. I was further of the opinion that the authors of the PDF in question have tried to give an impression that free software is flourishing in the state. I am also suprised that Richard Stallman has lent his name to this - I am quite sure that he would have opposed the same thing tooth and nail if it had happened in the US or Europe. However the free software guru with whom I was debating seemed to thing that this did not fall under the definition of proprietary software. Opinions anyone? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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calendar of foss events
by Kenneth Gonsalves 13 Mar '07

13 Mar '07

hi, we have set up a calendar of foss events at http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/calendar/ anyone interested in posting details/maintaining the page may contact me -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon(a)au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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Slackware with ubuntu
by Mohan Nayaka 10 Mar '07

10 Mar '07

Hi all, Has anyone tried out Slackware with ubuntu on the same machine? I read that Slack uses lilo while I use grub with ubuntu now. Can a Slack installation coexist with this setup? googling suggests that skipping the lilo installation and then fixing up with grub will do it. I think I would have to use knoppix see what exact files it has put in /boot to figure out the right entries for kernel and initrd (if any). Is this right? Regards, Mohan S N -- Never look up when dragons fly overhead.

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lost trash folder in kde
by Pradnyesh Sawant 09 Mar '07

09 Mar '07

hello, i, by mistake, deleted the trash folder in kde, residing in ~/Desktop/Trash. Although i have recreated the "folder", it does *not* act like the trash folder is supposed to -- deleted stuff doesn't end up there. i tried searching for "trash path" in the "control center", but in vain. googling around provided the path variable to reside in "control center -> system administration -> paths", but unfortunately in my case i can't find the "trash path" variable :( -- warm regards, Pradnyesh Sawant -- Man thrives, oddly enough, only in the presence of a challenging environment. --Anon

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[Attn] Social Network Spam
by Linuxers Admin 09 Mar '07

09 Mar '07

Hello List Members, Due to the recent increase in spamming done by social networking sites like tagged, hi5 and others, please make sure that you do not end up sending the entire list invitations to join them. Mailman has blocked several such spam mails till now, but list members should be more careful about giving their email account passwords to a third party. thanks, List Admin

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[COMMERCIAL] File System Hacker Wanted
by Vihan Pandey 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: need you to forward this to relevant places From: "quasi" <quasi(a)cleartrip.com> Date: Wed, February 28, 2007 1:51 pm To: "vihan" <vihan(a)cleartrip.com> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey Vihan, Can you please forward this to relevant places ? We need a person who is interested in Storage. Distributed file systems, databases, flat files - whatever. ;) This is a longish project. We need to devise and implement a flexible storage solution for large collection of arbitrary data units. The exact solution may not be open sourced but any enhancements to the underlying systems will be given back to the community. If it is possible, any generic solutions encountered in this quest will also be given back to the community. We will work on the GNU/Linux system for this. This person also has the responsibility of getting up to 1 more people for this project if he needs him. Person should have extensive programing experience in C and should have in-depth knowledge in the above mentioned areas. About us : Cleartrip is a company who wants to "make travel simple". Hence more enjoyable and enriching. We try to use technology to solve problems and invent better experiences in the travel domain. We have our tech & design teams inhouse. Visit us at www.cleartrip.com. Please write to me at quasi(a)cleartrip.com if you feel like it. regards, quasi Cleartrip

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[COMMERCIAL] File System Hacker Wanted
by Vihan Pandey 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

We need a person who is interested in Storage. Distributed file systems, databases, flat files - whatever. ;) This is a longish project. We need to devise and implement a flexible storage solution for large collection of arbitrary data units. The exact solution may not be open sourced but any enhancements to the underlying systems will be given back to the community. If it is possible, any generic solutions encountered in this quest will also be given back to the community. We will work on the GNU/Linux system for this. This person also has the responsibility of getting up to 1 more people for this project if he needs him. Person should have extensive programing experience in C and should have in-depth knowledge in the above mentioned areas. About us : Cleartrip is a company who wants to "make travel simple". Hence more enjoyable and enriching. We try to use technology to solve problems and invent better experiences in the travel domain. We have our tech & design teams inhouse. Visit us at www.cleartrip.com. Please write to quasi(a)cleartrip.com <http://ctmail.cleartrip.com/src/compose.php?send_to=quasi%40cleartrip.com> if you feel like it.

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[Fwd: [ilugd] Algothythm'07 - ...the rhythm of technogeeks...]
by Parthan 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

-- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com

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Wireless Linux Download --> Installation Stage
by Rony 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

Hello all, This is with reference to the wireless linux download idea that I had posted a month ago. Just to refresh your memories, it consists of a stand alone repo server that is linked to a WAP. So anyone and everyone who want to download CD/DVD ISOs can visit the location with their wireless enabled laptops and locally download the required isos. We can also keep some LAN cables for older lappys. Recently I bought a secondhand pc, an HP, AMD K6 450 MHz. with 128 MB RAM, 40 GB HDD, CD ROM. It also came with a colour printer that was serviced today. It only needs new cartriges now. I am keeping the printer for personal use and it will be used to print the linux brochures. A few at a time as per the need. The pc box will be used for the WLD idea and I want to install it in any institution which is willing to run it for 24 hours. The HDD was cleaned and installed with the Debian Etch base package CD that I had downloaded last month. So now Debian is up in command line. Net is up too. Apt is giving some trouble as I did not use the mirrors during installation. I tried various entires in the sources.list but it hangs midway and then throws errors. It should be resolved with the blessings of the experts. There are 4 primary partitions created in the box as follows:- 100 MB /boot 3 GB / 36 GB /var (for the web pages) 2 GB swap Now the actual installation and setup stage begins and I would like to know if anyone is interested in setting up the system. I feel that a one or two day session in any place would be ideal where we meet as a group and finish it up. We document the procedure to help others do the same. Right now I don't have the budget to buy a wireless AP but I/we can pool in later or use a secondhand one. Right now we can test the same with a LAN cable and a laptop. I will bring the box with kb and mouse to the venue. JTD also had an idea of setting up Linux Radio Station through the WAP and we can implement this idea too on this box. -- Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Linux Website Hosting
by Mangesh V Rakhunde 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

Hi Please inform if anyone knows any Linux website site with PHP+MySql, CGI-BIN, Apache support & has C-Panel as its control panel. Thanks Mangesh

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Re: Motherboard conked.Suggestions for a new mobo/processor
by िऩऩाद 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

Do amd 64 processors support Linux. How is the review of AMD Athlon X2 and Asus motherboard Thanks Ninad

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Motherboard conked.Suggestions for a new mobo/processor
by rajeshr＠vsnl.com 07 Mar '07

07 Mar '07

Hi Ninad, > >Finally I have a C2d E6300 and intel dg965ry mobo with 2 100gb SATA hdd. >After assembling this I came to know that the dg965ry is not supported by >the linux kernel. >I have to wait for a new release of the kernel to be included in some >distro. > >Any other pointers to this problem are welcome >I virtualization a temporary solution.. > Check out the wiki page I have created on this issue at <http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_on_DG965RY_HOWTO> Regards, Rajesh

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DST changes :: a how to for Linux boxes
by Arun K. Khan 07 Mar '07

07 Mar '07

FWIW, a how to for ensuring that your Linux box (in affected TZs) is all set to handle the date changes for DST. http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS6300294422.html -- arun khan

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[Fun] APT: Super cow powers!
by Kumar Appaiah 07 Mar '07

07 Mar '07

For Debian/Ubuntu users: your APT has super-cow powers! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt-get#Easter_Egg But aptitude is stubborn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_%28program%29#Easter_egg_.28Super_Cow… Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 462, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036

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NTFS Screwup in Etch.
by Rony 07 Mar '07

07 Mar '07

Hello All, I wanted to try out this month's Chip DVD which showed a blank disk in Etch. It has Kubuntu 6.10. So I rebooted to try out the same dvd in windows. However I missed the boot-loader and it booted back into Debian. While it was in progress, I gave the 3 finder salute and the pc rebooted decently and this time I selected xp. However it would not load beyond the account login part. I attached a spare hdd and booted into debian and backed up my entire disk for safety. Then using the xp recovery console I gave the command 'chkdsk c: /p' and now I am able to boot into the admin account only and that too slowly. Many features have got disabled. In short, I got to reload windows for the first time ever since I got the system 5 years ago with all its umpteen updates having to be reloaded again. :P My fstab has ntfs as the file system for the win partition. Now I have added a hash to that line to prevent the partition from being mounted in Linux. This is a caution to all those using Debian Etch with an NTFS partition in the pc. Please don't keep the ntfs partition permanently mounted via /etc/fstab. From other problems too, Debian Etch is far from 'Testing' or almost stable. Its *Unstable* . -- Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html

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UFB-15 Protocol ( Proposed by Rony )
by Rony 07 Mar '07

07 Mar '07

Hello All, This is a new protocol proposed for the purpose of facilitating fast Linux CD/DVD ISO downloads through the DTH type satellite medium. A Linux satellite having a footprint over Asia and Africa will help in providing the latest Linux distributions to even the remotest areas of these regions. The broadcasts will be sequential and timed for every .iso file, just like regular television programmes with their respective timings. The number of transponders, frequency etc. is not discussed here. The main purpose of this writeup is to create a transmission protocol for error free unidirectional file downloads via satellite. A single broadcast should be received by un-limited number of receivers anywhere in Asia and Africa. As satellite transmission is prone to disturbances, any error in the ISO file being downloaded will render the entire process useless. Since it is going to be a unidirectional broadcast that cannot receive feedback from the receiving units, certain correction features need to be added to the broadcast. The proposed protocol will be called Unidirectional File Broadcast ( UFB-15 ) Protocol. The number 15 denotes the 15 second delay feature added for correction. This can vary from 1 second to 60 seconds or more as per the users' choice. The UFBP-15 will broadcast data packets in groups of 1 second each. These packets will contain their parity check sequence interlaced to check downloaded packet integrity. After the first 15 packet groups of one second each are broadcast, the next one second will contain the first packet group re-broadcast. The next second will have the 16th packet group. The next one to follow will be the 2nd packet group re-broadcast. So every second a new packet group and its 15 second earlier packet group is alternately broadcast. This provides the receiver a 15 second delay to re-load the packets if they got corrupted in the first attempt. An illustration is placed below. 'P' denotes the packet group per second and its timing sequence. They are broadcast every second. P1 --> P15 --> P1 --> P16 --> P2 --> P17 --> P3 --> P18 --> P4 --> P19 --> P5 --> P20 --> P6 --> P21 --> P7 --> P22 --> P8 --> P23 --> P9 --> P24 --> P10 --> P25 --> P11 --> P26 --> P12 --> P27 --> P13 --> P28 --> P14 --> P29 --> P15 --> P30 As you can see, after every 15 seconds a re-broadcast of old packets takes place to help the receiver catch up with broken packets. The delay time can be chosen after experimenting with different time delays. This will reduce the bandwidth by half but offer a self correction for unidirectional broadcasts. To increase bandwidth, a higher transmission frequency can be chosen. The proposed UFB-15 Protocol is free to anyone to modify and correct for better transmission quality. The only condition is that it should be released under the GPL license so that anyone can make use of it freely. Another method of reducing reception errors is to avoid transmitting an ISO file as a whole. Instead, it can be transmitted as a set of files just as they exist on the CD/DVD. Individual files being smaller, can be corrected easily and will not disturb the entire ISO file block. An executable script file transmitted along with the download assembles all the components back into an single ISO file in the receiving unit. -- Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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advice needed on configuring ftp server and samba printing.
by krishnakant Mane 07 Mar '07

07 Mar '07

hello all, I need to know how I can configure vsftp or proftp (kindly suggest which one is more stable ). I have the following needs. 1. user should be able to log into his home directory by default. 2. I don't want to chroot jail the user in his home directory . I have shared /var/www for use by public and thus I need to allow user to change directory to such shared folders. regarding printing, I will like to know if I can share the printer on another machine running linux? both the sharing and accessing machines are linux based. I tried doing it but while the printer is working fine on linux, I can't share the same with other linux machines in the network? I have dhcp on all machines so there is no static ip, is that the problem? I am running fedora core 6 on all desktop machines. so can some one guide me please? Krishnakant.

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advice needed on configuring ftp server and samba printing.
by Mandar Joshi 07 Mar '07

07 Mar '07

Hi, Try and refer to my linux notes here http://mndar.linux-fan.com . Check the CUPS configuration section if you want to share the printer via IPP. Refer the samba configuration section if you want have the printer appear like a regular Windows shared printer on the network. Regards Mandar Joshi Have you been here yet ? http://mndar.phpnet.us ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php

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March 2007 GLUG meet at Netmagic
by Anurag 07 Mar '07

07 Mar '07

Hello list members, We'll be having our March GLUG meet at Netmagic Solutions on sunday , the 18th of March. Date: Sunday, 18th March 2007 Time: 2:00 PM Venue: Netmagic Solutions - Data Center, Goregaon Reaching Venue: http://www.netmagicsolutions.com/about_us/map.html Topics: Let's decide that here. Address: Netmagic Solutions Pvt. Ltd. 22, Nirlon Complex, Western Express Highway, Goregaon (E), Mumbai - 400063 Ph. No.: (022) 26850001 Everyone's invited to attend and benefit form the talks. Anurag -- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ n. (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.

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Passion for Electronics, Compassion for Community
by Praveen A 07 Mar '07

07 Mar '07

Be an Electro, Make a Difference Electros.in is home to passionate Indian students, professionals, and researchers in the fields of Electrical, Electronics and Communication Engineering. http://www.electros.in/ Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Linux Download Satellite?
by Rony 07 Mar '07

07 Mar '07

Hello All, I was comparing rates for broadband internet for downloading linux distro isos and find that over a period of one year, the rates are still high, compared to the number of cds/dvds that can be downloaded. For example a 600/- per month NU plan becomes 7200/- per year. How many CDs or DVDs would a person actually download in one year for 7200/-? Plus, many places in India, Asia as well as Africa are still undeveloped and broadband is not available. The World Space satellite radio is a technology that was meant to spread radio to the whole of Asia and Africa. The receivers now start at a Rs. 1500/- one time investment. So can the world Linux community come together and launch its own satellite with multiple channels, each channel representing a linux brand, like Debian, Fedora, Mandriva, Ubuntu, Gentoo etc. The downloads will be in the form of serial broadcasts in the form of a programme schedule. A timer in the receiver records the ISO download at that time. A mini HDD inside the receiver can record the data. This helps those who don't have facilities to mount antennas or don't face the satt. They can take the receiver and antenna outside, download and then come back in to transfer it to their pcs. At high one way speeds, downloads should be very fast. The entire service should be free of cost to download. How much would such a satellite cost and which country has the minimum taxes for such a launch? The entire linux community could contribute for this, along with donations from big distro companies and some Govts. It should last us for 15 years. Technically what would be the maximum download speed available for one way broadcasts? Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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LUGRadio, OpenMoko, and more....
by Frederick Noronha 06 Mar '07

06 Mar '07

Saturday, Feb 24, 2007's meeting at Goa Science Centre focussed on these issues: * Demo of LUGRadio programmes via a Chinese-clone of the iPod. http://www.lugradio.org/episodes.rss Feedback: difficulty in following the programmes, and a bit of "excessive laughter" on the episode we were tuned into. * Talking about devices, Arvind suggested the OpenMoko phone http://www.openmoko.com/ Notice to Developers If you are interested in developing Free Software applications for the OpenMoko platform, please send information regarding embedded Linux projects you have contributed to, and the work you have done to coreteam(a)openmoko.org. We had some hardware issues that set us back about a month. But now we're back on track and should start shipping in February. All of our efforts are focused on getting the device out, so please forgive our delays in replying to your emails. * Queries about web-to-SMS international gateways. Some suggested using Yahoo (only Windows compatible). BSNL is offering SMS within India for 40 paisa per SMS. * Brief discussion about using 'sleep' mode under GNU/Linux, while transporting laptop with a GNU/Linux distro. * Fedora and its marketing strategies. * Debate about new distros. Stanley is on the search for some. * Some of us remembered Prakash Advani, earlier with FreeOS.com and now with Novell. He has an interesting photo blog. See: http://cityblogger.com/archives/category/photography/ * We also thought of the photography work of Tariq Sani (Nagpur) and Kalyan Varma (Bangalore), two other FLOSS techies. http://tariquesani.net/ http://www.kalyanvarma.net/photography/ * We had a brief discussion on the Simputer and also the plans of Geodesic, where Atul Chitnis is now vice-president See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/simputer The visit of Dr Vinay Deshpande to Goa was remembered too. There was a debate over the $100 computer (OLPC), and whether the it was really unsuted to India, or whether the opposition to it could be from those eager to block the spread of Free Software/Open Source among the younger generation. See http://www.laptop.org/ or http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Home * Someone raised the question about the Mobilis. The Mobilis, is Encore's inexpensive mobile PC http://www.engadget.com/2005/05/11/the-mobilis-encores-inexpensive-mobile-p… * Arvind was keen to get access to the book 'Linux Kernel: In A Nutshell' Apologies to the lady who missed our meeting, because we started late! Ashwin Naik phoned, and was eager to come to meetup (at the bhel-puri informal meet-up following the indoors meet at the Goa Science Centre, Panjim). FN -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com 7500+ sharable pics from Goa http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/

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Re: Linux on DG965RY Motherboard
by Rajesh Rajani 06 Mar '07

06 Mar '07

Hi, > > Hi, I too have written a report on a similar hardware. Except I had a > PATA drive instead of a SATA. I have a PATA DVD RW too. Anyway, I have > the i386 install. It is stable. No issues till now. I have Xen > virtualization enabled as well. The only difference between our > installation methods is I guess I installed the distro without Xen > virtualization and then used the system-config-packages to add Xen and > the Xen kernel. The system was stable all throughout. 2.6.18-SMP kernel > updated to 2.6.19-SMP and 2.6.18-Xen updated to 2.6.19-Xen. > I have created a wiki entry based on my experience on the ilug-bom site in the HOWTO section as per some suggestions I received. Maybe you could also update the wiki with your experiences. Regards, Rajesh

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Learning Language
by Sir Stupid 06 Mar '07

06 Mar '07

Hello all, I'm currently following my CCNA (Cisco certified network associate) course. I'm almost done with it. I want to support my networking course with some programming skills. Where to start from ?? I have been to NIIT & already checked with them about language course, they said "C" & "C++" will be covered in a period of 2 months. I personally do not feel that 2-months time is sufficient for those two languages. Also, i keep reading about 'RUBY' & 'Python' and i gather that RUBY is much easy to learn for beginner like me. So, any experts out there can please point me to any institute which offers courses in RUBY / Python ? Is there any pre-requisite for learning those languages (like familiarity with syntax of "C" or any other language for that matter) ?? Please note that i have already been to Eric Raymond's site and have read his opinion about programming. Thank you, Dumb.B0t.

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book / tutorial / link for learning arm linux
by neelam 06 Mar '07

06 Mar '07

hi i m wrkng with a embeded system which makes use of arm linux pls provide some references for arm linux............ thnx --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.

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Adding signatures at the end of mail messages
by Harshal Vaidya 05 Mar '07

05 Mar '07

I have a requirement of adding different images or signatures in every outgoing mail from the MTA. We are setting up a mail infrastructure in our office and haven't yet chosen any MTA. Does anybody have any experience in this situation and will any MTA allow writing a custom plug-in which attaches different signatures with different mails. All ideas are welcome. Thanks and Regards Harshal Vaidya http://www.lakhpatipage.com

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Re: deb vs. rpm
by Manoj Srivastava 05 Mar '07

05 Mar '07

Hi, [Please pardon the cross posting. I felt that this mail is not off topic for any of the mailing lists I have posted it to, and it is about time we had a technical, as opposed to sentimental or loyalty based look at the .deb and .rpm file formats, I have read the acceptable use policies of all three lists, and I think this is not in violation of any of them. I apologize if I am mistaken] It might be instructive to compare package file formats on a purely technical level: http://kitenet.net/~joey/pkg-comp/ This is a fairly authoritative document, and well worth understanding. Here follows commentary on the major points of difference oj just the rpm and deb format (please read the URL for details regarding other package formats). 1) Data unpack-able by standard tools, meta-data accessible by standard tools, and ability to create a .deb with standard (non distribution specific) tools: .debs are just ar archives of tar-balls, and can be unpackaged, inspected, and created using cp, chmod, ar and tar. rpm's need a special tool. Now, why is this important at all? Well, think of a classified environment, where you do not want to rely on the packaged tool to help you with forensics; but you have a trusted solaris box. 2) Package relationships: The .deb format has a more nuanced set of relationships, incorporating recommendations and suggested packages, and orders packages by priority as well as group. rpm does not have the nuanced relationship, nor priority, but it does have file based dependencies, and easily extract-able copyright information so it is easier to marshal packages by copyright info. Personally, I am of the opinion that file dependencies are a mixed bag; they complicate the package dependency graph with edges that are different from a package dependency; added to the less nuanced dependency and priority information, they make the installation ordering of rpm's far less sophisticated. dpkg goes through a song and dance ordering packages with topological sorting of the graph, breaking installation into chunks to ensure that no conflicting packages ever are unpacked at the same time, unpacking and configuring packages in dependency order, and rolling back failed installation. rpm does installations on a best effort basis, and thus failures at critical stages leave the system in an untenable state. 3) rpm can mark documentation files (makes it easier to find docs), and has ghost files, files which are not shipped in the package but are registered as being owned by the package. For documentation, Debian relies on convention; all package documentation is found in /usr/share/doc/$package; but ghost files are clearly a plus for rpms. 4) Debian packages may run binaries at install and un-install times. I am not sure if this is a major plus. 5) Package verification and triggers -- rpm has them, and package verification is one of the major features missing in a .deb. triggers, well, there is a technical proposal currently being debated about adding triggers to dpkg, but obviously, Debian is playing catch-up here. 6) New sections in the package format: .debs were designed to be extensible, and whole new sections can be added to the package by adding yet another tar-ball or the ar archive. Some of the future additions being planned are detached signatures by various keys; developers key, build daemon maintainer key, archive maintainers key, release manager key, mirror master key, -- in a new section of the package file. So, new data sections, compiled binaries for more than one sub-arch, or 32 and 64 bit binaries -- they can be added easily to a new section, and dpkg be told how to deal with the new sections by inspecting the .deb format version. rpm's can't as easily cope with unseen new requirements. manoj -- "Nuclear war can ruin your whole compile." Karl Lehenbauer Manoj Srivastava <srivasta(a)acm.org> <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Vdata card use
by Koustubha Kale 05 Mar '07

05 Mar '07

Koustubha Kale wrote: >> I have a Tata Indicom VDATA PCMCIA card for internet access when out of office. >> Is it possible to use this with Fedora core 6? Any pointers please. >I have used the Huawei EC321 data card on FC6.x86_64. Setting it up >using wvdial was a breeze. If you want, I can provide you the wvdial >settings that I used. > >-- >Regards >Vivek J. Patankar I got it working with wvdial. Also got the modprobe to do it automagically as described in the blog. Just one problem I have a default gateway since I use the laptop at office too. wvdial/pppd does not put in a default route for the new connection. I tried the defaultroute option in the /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/peers/wvdial files but no avail. Can u tell me a tric by which I can have the defaultroute inserted when i connect with wvdial and my office route put back when i disconnect? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

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Fwd: Web-wala workshop
by Anurag 04 Mar '07

04 Mar '07

The Attached PDF file is kept here: http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/WorkShops/webwala-workshop.pdf Anurag ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Web-wala workshop Date: Wednesday 28 February 2007 00:25 From: "Chandita Mukherjee" <chandita.mukherjee(a)gmail.com> To: Dear Friend Please have a look at the invitation attached. Web-wala is a very exciting workshop developed by us through several rounds. It opens various doors to the world of information communication technologies: open source software,open knowledge resources and the ways to use the internet to enhance opportunities for the communities you work with. In fact, you may be surprised to learn that the invitation in the attachment was developed by the participants of the last round of Web-wala. Please come or send a participant and forward to interested friends. You can call me at 98205 09179 if you have any questions and if you want a more detailed schedule. Chandita Mukherjee ------------------------------------------------------- -- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ n. (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Learning Language
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 04 Mar '07

04 Mar '07

>> I'd say learn secure programming and MVC, learn proper indentation, >> learn documentation and commenting. > who is to teach it? "The Practice of Programming" by Brian W. Kernighan and Rob Pike; published by Pearson Education (maybe Prentice Hall does it too). Costs less than Rs. 300. Read the first chapter: "Style". It teaches it. Regards, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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Protection of personal info on the wiki
by Mohan Nayaka 04 Mar '07

04 Mar '07

Hi all, As all content on the wiki is under GFDL, anyone can improve it. However, I have a doubt regarding the user pages on the wiki. If it is possible for anyone to edit user home pages, these pages may be defaced. I am aware that self-regulation will probably keep away this problem just like the rest of the wiki. In this case, however, personal information may be distorted. Therefore, I would like to know what can/should be done to minimize this risk. Regards, Mohan S N -- Never look up when dragons fly overhead.

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Debian Etch Installation Report
by Mrugesh Karnik 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hi, I have just posted the text only version of my Debian Etch Installation Report to the wiki. It's available here: http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Debian_Etch_Installation_Report I have taken lots of screenshots and I'll post them tomorrow. The installer has a handy facility for taking screenshots if you're curious. Also, I found a MAJOR security bug with respect to the sudo integration. I enabled it and found that root login with a blank password was possible. I haven't tried updating the system yet. If the bug persists, I'll report it. Cheers. -- ---------------------------------------- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net ----------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Annoncement] Ubuntu-India at Carte Blanche 2007
by Vickram Crishna 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

> We hereby call for participation from all Ubunteros > and Ubuntu fans, > join our volunteers and help them display the power > of the Ubuntu > community and our favorite distribution. > Congratulations for doing something to raise the public status of this nice distro. I am working on physical distribution of Ubuntu releases in India, which will hopefully cut down the time to deliver and perhaps free up some money to fund further work in FOSS. Possibly the same route can then be used for managing physical delivery of other FOSS work. While I cannot be in Chennai, I wish you all success. Do keep this list posted with the feedback from the event. Vickram ___________________________________________________________ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk

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"Provide us business ideas" competition
by jtd 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

..but only for the chosen few from certain countries. http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2007/redhatchallenge.html -- Rgds JTD

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Re: problem in integrating ejabberd with mysql
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

http://jabberd.jabberstudio.org/2/docs/quickstart.html If you are not specific about ejabberd, but simply want to run a Jabber server, then follow the instructions in the above link to configure Jabberd2. It worked for me on Fedora Core 5 i386. If you are using an RPM to install Jabberd2 then you will find that most of the instructions can be skipped. Good luck, Debarshi -- husband v. use sparingly; conserve; save husbandry n. frugality; thrift; agriculture

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[Annoncement] Ubuntu-India at Carte Blanche 2007
by Parthan 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

Hello LUGies, Its our great pleasure in announcing that Ubuntu-India Team will participate in Carte Blanche 2007 held at MIT Campus Chrompet on 3rd and 4th March 2007. We have got a stall for Ubtunu-India Team and have prepared banners and fliers about Ubuntu & the Loco Team. We also plan to exhibit Ubuntu loaded computers as a hands-on system where visitors can have an Ubuntu experience. We also plan to display 3D desktop using Beryl. We hereby call for participation from all Ubunteros and Ubuntu fans, join our volunteers and help them display the power of the Ubuntu community and our favorite distribution. The stall will also serve the purpose of offering help and troubleshoot any of your Ubuntu related queries and assist you to enjoy the Ubuntu Linux experience. We will also try to make Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy CDs available for copies. We request those who are interested to get copies to bring Blank CDs (one CD per Ubuntu/Kubuntu) and get them burnt in the stall. We also thank the Carte Blanche Organizers for offering us a stall and hope we will get support from the community for Ubuntu-India Teams' endeavor on participating in a FOSS event like Carte Blanche. Thanks to the Ubuntu-India Team for all their support and contributions. We look forward to your continued support in all our further endeavors. For all further assistance and information regarding the Ubuntu-India stall please contact any of the following Ubunteros: [1] Baishampatan Ghose - b.ghose(a)ubuntu.com ** Ubuntu-India Loco Team Lead (Local Team Members at Chennai) [2] Aanjhan Ranganathan - aanjhan(a)gmail.com ** NA during the event [3] Parthan S R - parth.technofreak(a)gmail.com ** NA during the event [4] Sudharshan - sudharsh(a)gmail.com | 9840904288 ** Will be incharge of the stall during the event, along with other volunteers [ We welcome the other volunteers for the Ubuntu-In stall to provide their contact details by updating this thread] All comments and suggestions are welcome from the community to make this event a grand success. Some Relayed Links: [1] Carte Blanche'07 - http://cs-mit.org/cb07/schedule.html [2] Ubuntu India Team Home/Wiki - http://ubuntu-in.org/wiki/Main_Page [3] Ubuntu India Loco Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianTeam [4] Ubuntu.com - http://www.ubuntu.com/ -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com

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Evolution mail client configuration help
by Dinesh Joshi 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

Hi list, I'm just trying out evolution as my new mail client. The problem is that I cant find a option to wrap the lines at 72 characters i.e. I cant set the wrapping! There is no option to set the wrapping size anywhere! Anybody using evolution?? How do I configure the client? Thanks. -- Regards, Dinesh A. Joshi

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RHEL 4 - Cannot ping.
by Nadeem M. Khan 27 Feb '07

27 Feb '07

Hi. I cannot ping any system and no system can ping me on my RHEL 4 AS. SElinux is disabled. No iptables rules are specified. Default installation. hosts.allow, deny are blank. System is HP-Compaq V50000 notebook. ifconfig shows my eth0 properly configured. mii-tool shows link ok. Haven't seen anything like this before. Any pointers ? Regards, NMK.

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problem in integrating ejabberd with mysql
by PV Sundarram 27 Feb '07

27 Feb '07

hi, i am using a fc4, mysql 5.0.27 and erlang(*R11B-3*). i installed ejabberd 1.1.3(binary). i followed the instructions in this link https://support.process-one.net/doc/display/MESSENGER/Using+ejabberd+with+M… . but it did not work and was not giving any error in log files. the ejabberd server was connecting to mysql server(i could c the connection in mysqlAdmin) but it was not registering any user. i tried registering using different tools(ejabberdctl and psi). ney pointers how to make it work... -- keep klickin' P.V.Sundarram -- pvsun.blogspot.com -- Relax... you are entering a windows free zone...... -- http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=123123123123123&t=1 8-)

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