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Mailing list etiquette
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 01 Dec '01

01 Dec '01

Some time ago, Philip had posted a list of guidelines about posting to a mailing list ... Where can I find it? I don't know what phrase to search for ... SameerDS. ===== -- MTech Student Reconfigurable Computing Lab KReSIT, IIT-Bombay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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History Prob......
by Desai Ashish 01 Dec '01

01 Dec '01

Dear Luggers, Do any one plz. suggest me that in Linux if i press up/down arrow keys then the previous commands will come. That is History....But how could i remove the History....Complete and Partial also. Plz. suggest me some solution.... Regards, [Ashish] ===== [Ashish Desai] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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kernel:process modes
by abhijeet 01 Dec '01

01 Dec '01

hi this is about a kernel mechanism... a process executes in 'user mode' normally. When it makes a system call it switches to 'kernel mode'. Now in 'user mode' it only as access to the process related data structures and in 'kernel mode',it can do anything. My Question is "Have I got everything right?" and secondly....do some processors have 'execution modes'? If so please give me some pointers to further information in that direction? thanks abhijeet

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Fatal Linux problem
by anand 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

I was trying to load a new OS. I had linux partitions in hda5 and hda7. After the OS loaded, i tried to run linux rescue from pcq linux 7.1 (linux CD from PCQ which I use as my OS). I could not rescue using standard method. Next Itried to upgrade it and I found that I could not upgrade and was getting this error An error occured reading the partition table for the block device hda. The error has logical partition of type 0 detected. then there was some such explainatory mesage. On saying Ok, it skipped the disk. Then i loaded another hard disk and I can now see that the hard disk shows hda4 which has size equal to the addition of sizes of hda5 and hda7. but it does not show hda5 and 7 in brackets. How do i retrieve my old data. there is almost twenty days of un backed up data or rather data backed up on hda7. Any clues to this problems solution? Anand

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[OT] Solutions To Cybercrime
by Aarjav Trivedi 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

Hello People A friend of mine is going to attend a Model United Nations (in which Highschool age students from several countries are chosen as representatives of a nation to the Model U.N) meet in Harvard and their topic is going to be Solutions to Cybercrime. I know the topic couldn't get more cliched and that there is no absolute solution as such but can u people give some ideas on how various nations can come up with something tangible as far as tackling cybercrime on an international level is concerned. There are several tricky areas like a German court (or was it French) recently instructed yahoo to stop showing Neo Nazi auctionables in their search and Yahoo got an injunction against that from a US court. Sorry if this is way O.T, just that you guys are the few people I know who can give ideas on this. Thanks Aarjav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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[OT] any junk dot matrix printers avaliable?
by Rahul Saxena 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

hi there, this is OT. but please dont flame, its a last resort i am using. we were planning ot make a automated land going vehicle using stepper motors from the dot matrix printers. and belts etc. it would run on the parallel port. could anyone be in the capacity to donote these printers ? actually only the steppers and belts are needed ! Please send a mail to rahulsaxon(a)yahoo.com if u can help ! thanks for reading. -rahul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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StarOffice cd
by abhijeet 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

hi does anybody on the list have a staroffice cd??? i know its up there on the site...but i don't have a very good connection and can't download it... i would appreciate if somebody could write it for me??? is the StarOffice suite on the DIGIT cd for linux??? Somebody pl. tell me about this so that i could buy the mag. ciao abhijeet

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[OT] Jobs
by Kunal Walia 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

Artemis Technologies Pvt. Ltd. has various positions open for Software developers in Bombay, on a project bases, lasting over a period of December, 2001. All employees will be offered salary in the range of Rs.3000 to Rs.5000 depending on their skill level and experience. People with advanced knowledge of any one or several of the following computer skills may apply: 1.Java 2.Active Server Pages (ASP) 3.Python 4.Common Gateway Interface (CGI) 5.Structured Query Language (SQL) To apply, contact the signatory with a copy of your resume. ===== Kunal Walia, Director Phone: +91 98200 23029 E-mail:kunal_walia@yahoo.com Artemis Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Regd. Office: #116, Advocates Enclave Sector 49-A, Chandigarh 160017

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Anybody Have RH Linux 7.2 CDssss....
by Desai Ashish 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

Dear Luggers, Do any body is having Red Hat Linux CDs....??? Kindly mail me...I m ready 2 pay the cost of CDs....to who, can burn CDs for me.... Reply me friends.. [Ashish] ===== [Ashish Desai] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Announce] LUG Mailing list search engine
by Philip S Tellis 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Philip S Tellis wrote: > This version of namazu - specially customised for our > mailing list by yours truly - is available at > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/linuxers/ Sorry, the url is missing search. It should be: http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/search/linuxers/ Philip

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[OT] lend me rh 7.2 cd
by Manish Jethani 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

If anyone can lend me RedHat 7.2 CDs, please mail me off list. Thanks a lot. Manish

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[Announce] LUG Mailing list search engine
by Philip S Tellis 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

Ok, no one's really asked for it, but there have been complaints that suggested it was needed, and lets face it, we've all wished that the archives had a search engine. It's even on the wishlist of mailman 3.0. Well, we at Ilug-bom have beaten the mailman team. We've integrated mailman with a search engine called namazu (http://www.namazu.org/). This version of namazu - specially customised for our mailing list by yours truly - is available at http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/linuxers/ Have a look, search for your favourite stuff, don't overload the server, and give feedback. I've still got to implement a few features to provide better, more effective searches. I already know how to do this, just need some time. Philip -- Who spread garbage all over Flanders's yard before I got a chance to? -- Homer Simpson Two Dozen and One Greyhounds Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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linux tech for india
by Apu Shah 28 Nov '01

28 Nov '01

dear linuxers, there have been several writeups, discussions, conferences, seminars etc. etc. about how linux is the os for india. yes, this is true due to the various factors that favor linux over other os and give linux a compelling argument. let's leave aside economic, social and political issues in support of linux for india. the question i would like to pose to the group is what *technical* innovations do know of that are propelling the cause of linux for india. the biggest one is of course, localization. there are efforts ongoing in this area which i know of namely ncst, iitm and indlinux. some other examples that i can think of are - simputer, dhvani (the text to speech engine for indian languages) - simputer, tapatap (the pen based computing libraries) - ncst/iitm's work on localization of linux - work on universal networking language and language independent forms. for research purposes i am trying to compile a list of all such initiative that are going on in the linux world specifically to help india. i know that there must be several localized software development projects, font development projects, e-governance projects etc. etc. that are specific to india. if you have any references of such companies/projects/work i would appreciate it if you could send a link/email address. actually even technical work done to further the cause of linux in "developing nations" would be interesting. thanks much. apu shah, research associate, media labs asia

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KDE 2.2.2 and linux patch 2.4.16-pre1
by Ravindra Jaju 26 Nov '01

26 Nov '01

Hi all. KDE 2.2.2 sources, and RH-7.2 RPMs are on db.ilug-bom.org.in The resources have been moved to proper sub-directories. Also, note that you should not use the 2.4.15 release of the kernel, as it has a file-system corruption bug. In case you are planning to use the latest one, try 2.4.16-pre1. It's also uploaded on db.ilug-bom. regards, jaju

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reading word files through your email client
by Philip S Tellis 25 Nov '01

25 Nov '01

It seems that this mail never made it through the first time, so I am resending it. I've written a small script that can be run through your mailcap file. It uses wvWare and lynx/netscape to view word files through your mail program (pine, mutt, netscape, anything that uses mailcap). The script is at http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/lug-authors/philip/bin/ and a mirror on my downloads page (ncst/~philip/downloads/). Instructions are in the file. You'll have to make it executable and copy it to /usr/local/bin/ before you can use it. Philip -- "I know Kung Fu." "Show me." -- Neo and Morpheus, "The Matrix" Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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Help wanted with running X on Trident Blade XP card
by Navin 25 Nov '01

25 Nov '01

hi guys, i just switched to a Trident Blade XP AGP card with 32 MB of VRAM. i was running RH 7.1 on a SiS 6215 earlier, and had managed to configure X to run pretty well. i tried to get X to run on the new card using xf86config. since it is not listed i chose Blade 3D which i thought was the nearest. this uses the 'trident' driver. but it gave me an error and quit. ive attached the relevant parts of /var/log/ XFree86.0.log. plz do tell me of any workarounds or drivers available for solving my problem Navin

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::Any body has quake cd::
by Navin Dhanuka 25 Nov '01

25 Nov '01

Hi, If u have Q.u.a.k.e. CD. Please contact me offlist. Navin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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BSD IPC Vs SysV IPC ???
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 25 Nov '01

25 Nov '01

Thanks guys, But I'm not sure whether Richard Stevens actually compares or gives details of BSD IPC or not... Anyway, thanks for your reply, I'll again go through Richard Stevens. Is there any online reference / e-book for the same topic??? If yes, pls. forward me the URL Thanks, Kunal

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Using one ISP account to serve many users - requested at meet
by Philip S Tellis 24 Nov '01

24 Nov '01

Please note, that I have only tried this once, and it worked with my system under the test conditions at that time. There is no guarantee that it will work under real life situations. I'm not going to go into the full details of the sendmail configuration file, you can find out about that from the many sendmail howtos available. What you need are these (in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc): FEATURE(`genericstable', `hash -o /etc/mail/genericstable') FEATURE(`virtusertable', `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable') Then, in /etc/mail/genericstable (no .db), add this: @localhost.localdomain realuser+%1(a)yourisp.com In /etc/mail/virtusertable (no .db), add this: realuser+*(a)yourisp.com %2(a)localhost.localdomain replace localhost.localdomain with the name of your local mail server. now, in /etc/mail/, either run make (if you have a makefile in there), or do: % makemap hash genericstable.db < genericstable % makemap hash virtusertable.db < virtusertable Restart sendmail. Now, I'm assuming that you're using fetchmail to get mail from your ISP's account. In that case, you could set up fetchmail to use multidrop, but that is very complicated, and prone to mail loops and undelivered mail. Instead, I'd suggest telling fetchmail to forward mail to procmail (both running as root), or let sendmail use procmail as the default mailer. Then, have procmail decide who the mail should go to. If you use sendmail to call procmail, then you can check $1 in the procmailrc file to find out what was passed after the + sign, so you can have a rule like this: :0 To: realuser+$1 !$1(a)localhost.localdomain You'll have to try these things and tweak around a bit to see what works, but when you do get it working right, post your procedure to the group. I'm sure there are other solutions, and products that make it much easier to do this thing, but the basic problems I see with trying to serve many users with a single mailbox, is that if mail is addressed to two users (eg: tellis+philip(a)vsnl.net and tellis+santosh(a)vsnl.net), there will only be one mail in the mailbox. I have no idea what sendmail will do with the addresses, and how you will sort them. Also, if the address is in the bcc field, then forget it. You'll have to write a separate rule for the Cc: field. One last thing. When you get this working, tell you users to set their email address as localuser(a)localhost.localdomain, and to tell everyone outside the company that their address is realuser+localuser(a)yourisp.com Hope this helps. I really really hope. Philip -- At the source of every error which is blamed on the computer you will find at least two human errors, including the error of blaming it on the computer. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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db.ilug-bom.org.in - Nagarjuna
by Ritesh H Shukla 24 Nov '01

24 Nov '01

Hi, Can I help with DB website? I could uploas the 2.4.15 kernel and the kde 2.2.2 source rpm etc etc.. -Ritesh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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BSD IPC vs Sys V IPC ???
by Kunal Gangakhedkar 24 Nov '01

24 Nov '01

Hi there, Can someone tell me what is the difference in BSD IPC & traditional Sys V IPC which is followed in Linux??? Any reference for above question will also do. Thanks, Kunal

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linux device drivers
by abhijeet 23 Nov '01

23 Nov '01

hi if anybody's about to buy Allessandro Rubini's Linux Device Drivers this is for you... the book has been released under GNU Free Documentation License and is available at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdrive2/chapter/book in the HTML format...other formats are also available.....just check it out. for people who haven't heard of it ...well its a good place to begin kernel hacking... i just bought it for Rs.300/- from cbs.:-( and i find this link in it !!@$@$#%#^ Please mail all condolences to my personal addie. ciao abhijeet

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Weird boots: kernel? FS?
by Satya 23 Nov '01

23 Nov '01

So sometimes hal9k boots, sometimes doesn't. Symptoms: fsck required. Sometimes. I just took a look at the logs. Sometimes there are perfectly normal boots. Sometimes things like: Nov 21 09:52:56 hal9k depmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-12/ipv4/ip_masq_mfw.o: unresolved symbol(s) (That's just one example.) show up. During the same boot (I think. The system log timestamp is also screwed up during booting -- it starts booting with the correct time, jumps around, and finishes booting with the correct time), I see this: Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: /dev/hda5 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: /dev/hda5: Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: E Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: ntry Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: ' Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: l Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: o Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: g Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: ' in Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: / Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: d Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: e Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: v Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: ) Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: has Nov 21 09:53:09 hal9k kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Nov 21 09:53:09 hal9k kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 48k freed Nov 21 09:53:09 hal9k kernel: Adding Swap: 514040k swap-space (priority -1) Nov 21 09:53:09 hal9k kernel: Adding Swap: 60440k swap-space (priority -2) Nov 21 09:53:09 hal9k kernel: EXT2-fs warning (device ide0(3,5)): ext2_free_inode: bit already cleared for inode 40458 Nov 21 09:53:10 hal9k crond: crond startup succeeded Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: deleted Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: /unused Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: inode Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: 40458 Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: . Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: CLEARED. Nov 21 09:52:52 hal9k fsck: /dev/hda5: 9176/78312 files (0.3% non-contiguous), 129528/313236 blocks hda5 is the root FS. -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> Pound forehead on keyboard to continue.

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Fw: multisession cdwriting
by Dr . Sharukh K . R . Pavri . 23 Nov '01

23 Nov '01

I am using pcqlinux 7.1 w/ a Samsung 304 combo cdrw/dvd drive. X-cdroast works quite well but does not support multisesion cds. I downloaded the latest cdrecord 1.10. I have read the cdwriting howto, and the README.multi file. I followed the instruction in the latter file to the letter but came up against a wall. Though cdrecord claims that the burn of the subsequent tracks is *good* I am unable to see the tracks on the cd. Both my cdrom & cdrw drives are capable of reading multisession cds. I found similar references on the suse list (sometime in Jan 2001), I wrote to the op and he wrote back that he had given up trying after he got no answers. I wrote to Jorg Schilling and he replied w/ a terse one liner saying that I have hit a kernel bug and he can't help me. I dug around in his website and it seems that he is plenty sore at not having his sg (scsi) driver included in the kernel (even goes to almost calling Alan Cox a nepotist -- but this is ot). He seems to have washed his hands off trynig to make cdrecord run w/ a 2.4 kernel. He mentions some patches for 2.0 & 2.2 trees but nothing for 2.4. Has anybody managed to burn multisesson cds ? If you have, can you please tell me your cdrecord and kernel version and the exact command line for it. Cdrecord barfs at this command: cdrecord -msinfo dev=0,0 and the kernel goes berserk, kfmclient seems to be spawning over and over again literally hundreds of times. (I wonder if this is even related ?) regards, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Mumbai, India.

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KDE 2.2.2 on db.ilug-bom.org pls
by Ritesh H Shukla 22 Nov '01

22 Nov '01

Hi, This is regarding ILUG's plan to upload important files to the DB site... Could you please include the KDE 2.2.2 source/rpm/srpm on it so that we can download that faster and avoid loading the main ftp site.. Also can the link be posted....ie the exact url i guess its db.ilug-bom.org. Has any one upgraded their KDE from the net..?? How did you guys go about cause I am facing some problems with srpms from their main site... some dependency probs... any tips will be greatly appreciated.. -Ritesh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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::SE LINUX::[Attn: Sandesh]
by Navin Dhanuka 22 Nov '01

22 Nov '01

Hi, Sandesh, I have downloaded the "lsm-selinux-200108221537.tgz". its a 32 Mb file. For who don't know what is SE linux.... check the faqs @ http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/faq.html What is Security-enhanced Linux? Security-enhanced Linux is a research prototype of the Linux® kernel and a number of utilities with enhanced security functionality designed simply to demonstrate the value of mandatory access controls to the Linux community and how such controls could be added to Linux. The Security-enhanced Linux kernel contains new architectural components originally developed to improve the security of the Flask operating system. These architectural components provide general support for the enforcement of many kinds of mandatory access control policies, including those based on the concepts of Type Enforcement®, Role-based Access Control, and Multi-level Security. --------- What is it good for? The Security-enhanced Linux's new features are designed to enforce the separation of information based on confidentiality and integrity requirements. They are designed for preventing processes from reading data and programs, tampering with data and programs, bypassing application security mechanisms, executing untrustworthy programs, or interfering with other processes in violation of the system security policy. They also help to confine the potential damage that can be caused by malicious or flawed programs. They should also be useful for enabling a single system to be used by users with differing security authorizations to access multiple kinds of information with differing security requirements without compromising those security requirements. --------- Can I install Security-enhanced Linux on an existing Linux system? Yes. You actually need to have an existing Linux system. The Security-enhanced Linux distribution is source code for a modified Linux kernel and some utilities. You must have the ability to compile a kernel and also have necessary, but unmodified system packages. Our distribution is known to install on the Red Hat distribution, and has not been tested with others. --------- What does Security-enhanced Linux give me that standard Linux can't? The Security-enhanced Linux kernel enforces mandatory access control policies that confine user programs and system servers to the minimum amount of privilege they require to do their jobs. When confined in this way, the ability of these user programs and system daemons to cause harm when compromised (via buffer overflows or misconfigurations, for example) is reduced or eliminated. This confinement mechanism operates independently of the traditional Linux access control mechanisms. It has no concept of a "root" super-user, and does not share the well-known shortcomings of the traditional Linux security mechanisms (such as a dependence on setuid/setgid binaries). The security of an unmodified Linux system depends on the correctness of the kernel, all the privileged applications, and each of their configurations. A problem in any one of these areas may allow the compromise of the entire system. In contrast, the security of a modified system based on the Security-enhanced Linux kernel depends primarily on the correctness of the kernel and its security policy configuration. While problems with the correctness or configuration of applications may allow the limited compromise of individual user programs and system daemons, they do not pose a threat to the security of other user programs and system daemons or to the security of the system as a whole. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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script for windowmaker
by bhaskar 22 Nov '01

22 Nov '01

i use windowmaker ( because of its simple appearance and fast loading ) i always dream of making it as comfortable as windows specifically the feature of windows where when you press ald+ctrl+del you get a process manager I have written a script in tcl/tk for this and i bind it to alt+ctrl+del in windowmaker wherein you can select any process or many processes you want to kill and press the kill button provided this is much more comfortable than typing ps -ax finding the pid and typing kill anybody intrested can download it from http://bhaskarshanbhag.tripod.com/acd.tk.zip note: *press ok when done instead of cancelling the application *please go thru the code before you run it *u can use kill -9 instead of kill by slightly modifying the script *suspend monitor uses xset which is included in XFree86 package *lock uses xscreensaver package so you should have it properly configured *donot keep alt+ctrl+del for a long time as it causes trouble by creating many instances of the program(bug !) specially if you have enabled system modal option *you can try to bind it with any other key in enlightenment and kde if alt+ctrl+del is captured by these window managers _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Stevens' APUE Examples for Linux
by Manish Jethani 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Does anyone have the Stevens' ``Advanced Programming in UNIX Environment'' (APUE) examples source code for *Linux*. I've downloaded the original sources from ftp.uu.net but it doesn't have a linux version (only svr4, sun and 4.4bsd); and even the svr4 version doesn't compile out of the box on my system. Instead of making changes myself, I thought it'd be nice if someone has already done it. Manish -- I have a very small mind and must live with it. -- E. Dijkstra

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2.4.13 + XFS
by Vikram Rangnekar 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Hi everyone, I am currently running kernel 2.4.13 with XFS for my root partition. Since everyone was talking about ext3 and reiserfs I was just wondering how many people out there are using alternatives such as XFS and JFS. btw XFS is way cool and fast as hell. Also I'm working on an iptables alternative for the IBM linux contest and purely out of curiosity I was wondering how many of you guys are developing any big linux app or utility. I dont ususally read about any linux programming stuff on this list, and just wanted to get to know more people into big time linux programming. regards Vicky

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{OT}---::Update ILUG-BOM Site::
by Navin Dhanuka 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Admin please update the site.. --------------------------------- Next Lug Meet to be announced shortly Next Lug Meet on 31st August on IRC @ #linuxers at 4.30pm --------------------------------- Navin Dhanuka _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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trouble with ecos
by rahil 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

Hi has anyone any experince running ecos(it's an RTOS) on mandrake 8.0. __vt_9bad_alloc hasdifferent size in shared object,consider re-linking is the error being encountered if anyone can give me any leads it will be helpful. Rahil

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Test message
by Nagarjuna G. 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

Pl ignore Nagarjuna

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script to fetch dictionary.com meanings
by Manish Jethani 17 Nov '01

17 Nov '01

If someone really intends running this script on some of her documents, please tar-gzip all the dictionary.com meanings and send it to me. I don't have a good Net connection. If your tarball is bigger than 80kb, upload it somewhere and send me the link. Tnx. Manish Jethani -------- getdict.sh -------- #!/bin/bash ######################################################################## # Script to fetch meanings of all words appearing in one or more files # of type "English text". Meanings are fetched from dictionary.com and # stored in HTML files of the same name as the word. The /meaning/ # files are stored in the $SPOOL_DIR (or whatever you want to call it). # # Words are picked up from files whose names you pass as command line # arguments. If a file is not an "English text" type file, it is # ignored. # # Dependencies: # file - for determining file type. # egrep - for doing pattern match on word. # wget - for fetching the meanings of words from dictionary.com. # # Before running, set $SPOOL_DIR and $WGET_LOGFILE. You can set # $WGET_LOGFILE to /dev/stdout to get output on console. # # e.g. ./getdict.sh ~/mbox # # Disclaimer: I'm not responsible if your computer crashes because of # this program. In fact, I'm very irresponsible, by nature. And I # don't know how to write shell scripts. # # License: Feel free to modify and distribute this script without my # permission. Just don't tell anyone that I wrote the original version. # # Bugs: I've just tested this on my home box (called 'moose') that runs # RedHat Linux 6.2. No bugs. :) Find and fix yourself. # # Copyleft (:P) 2001 Manish Jethani. All Rights Reversed. ######################################################################## # directory where /meaning/ files will be stored SPOOL_DIR=`pwd`/spool # append logfile for wget WGET_LOGFILE=`pwd`/wget.log # all files in $@ for file in $@; do # if $file is of type "English text" if file -bn $file | egrep -sq '^English text$'; then # each word in the $file for word in `cat $file`; do # if $word is alphanumeric if echo -n $word | egrep -sq '^[A-Za-z0-9]+$'; then meaning_file=$SPOOL_DIR/$word.html # if $meaning_file does not exist for $word if [ ! -f $meaning_file ]; then # create $meaning_file for $word echo -n "Fetching meaning of \"$word\" ... " wget -O$meaning_file -a$WGET_LOGFILE \ "http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=$word" \ && echo "Done." \ || rm -f $meaning_file && echo "FAILED!" else echo "Meaning of \"$word\" already there." fi fi done else echo "Skipping $file - not an English text file." fi done

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2.4.13 + XFS
by Vikram Rangnekar 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

Hi everyone, I am currently running kernel 2.4.13 with XFS for my root partition. Since everyone was talking about ext3 and reiserfs I was just wondering how many people out there are using alternatives such as XFS and JFS. btw XFS is way cool and fast as hell. Also I'm working on an iptables alternative for the IBM linux contest and purely out of curiosity I was wondering how many of you guys are developing any big linux app or utility. I dont ususally read about any linux programming stuff on this list, and just wanted to get to know more people into big time linux programming. regards Vicky

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Windows not booting from hdc1
by Manish Jethani 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

I have 2 disks, primary master (Linux) and secondary master (Windows). I've set lilo to boot from hdc1 for label "dos". But when I try to boot into dos, I get the message "Invalid System Disk, Press Any Key To Continue". hdc1 is Windows 98. Any ideas? Tnx. Manish Jethani -- What the hell is it good for? -- Robert Lloyd (engineer of the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM), to colleagues who insisted that the microprocessor was the wave of the future, c. 1968 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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ISA ethernet card on rh 7.1
by Ulhas Vaidya 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

hi, i am trying to install a ne2000 compatible jumperless ethernet card on a rh 7.1. but it is not working. could anyone pls tell me some work around for this? i feel that the problem is due to correct addr and interrupt setting but how do i configure something when i don't know the settings? also where do i get to see a list of kernel modules available to handle the card? thanx ulhas

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SecNet2001, IIT Bombay (fwd)
by E C Vijil 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

Dear Sir/Madam We seek the opportunity to announce that the SIGNET Group at the Department of Computer Science and Engineering, IIT Bombay, is organizing SecNet 2001, a workshop on Security and Networking in association with the Computer Science & Engineering Association (CSEA). SecNet 2001, third in a series of workshops, will target IT Managers, Network Managers and System Administrators from various organizations. The workshop will be conducted from 12 to 15 December, 2001. The focus will be on current trends in Network Security and Mobile Wireless Networking. Various topics will be covered including IPSec, SSL, Wireless LAN, Bluetooth, and 2.5G Cellular Networks. Following is the schedule for the four day workshop: Day 1: TCP/IP, Network Attacks and Software Forensics. Day 2: Secure Network Setup and Configuration, Network Monitoring and Intrusion Detection. Day 3: SSL and Cryptography, IPSec Working and Applications. Day 4: Wireless LAN Technologies, Bluetooth, GSM, SMS and GPRS, Security in Wireless Networks. The workshop aims to provide a balance of both theory and applications. The distinguished speakers include professors from IIT Bombay and industry experts. The lab sessions will give an opportunity to the participants to get acquainted with various tools. The workshop brochure can be downloaded from the workshop web site. The same can be obtained by sending an e-mail request. Participants will be provided with a manual and a CD containing material related to topics covered in the workshop and other goodies. The registration fees are as follows: General: 3000/- per head. Defense Personnel: 1500/- per head. Accommodation and dinner will be charged separately albeit at a subsidized rate. For registrations, visit: http://www.cse.iitb.ac.in/secnet/register.php For more information: URL : http://www.cse.iitb.ac.in/secnet Email : secnet(a)cse.iitb.ac.in Please forward this invitation to your friends who might be interested in SecNet. Thanking you, With Regards, Janees E K (for SecNet Group.)

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mounting fat32 partition
by Kishor Bhagwat 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

hello! this is urgent, so i'm writing to the LUG while also searching myself..;-) I'm having to mount a FAT32 partition, but it refuses to mount - giving that "wrong fs type, bad superblock" blah blah error.. If i try autodetection in fstab, it gives me a seg fault..whats up? can someone play Saviour urgently? kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Fetchmail and imap
by Sachin Naik 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

Hi Guys, I am facing a problem with my fetchmail .I have PCQLinux 7.1 .When I try to download mailfrom my ISP's IMAP mailserver.I get the following error message fetchmail: 5.9.5 querying imap.satyam.net.in (protocol IMAP) at Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:46:23 +0530 (IST): poll started fetchmail: IMAP< * OK IMAP4rev1 Server Ready. fetchmail: IMAP> A0001 CAPABILITY fetchmail: IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 CHILDREN NAMESPACE THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES SORT fetchmail: IMAP< A0001 OK CAPABILITY completed fetchmail: IMAP> A0002 LOGIN "my_login" "*" fetchmail: IMAP< A0002 NO Login failed. fetchmail: IMAP> A0003 * fetchmail: Authorization failure on my_login(a)imap.satyam.net.in fetchmail: IMAP> A0004 LOGOUT fetchmail: IMAP< A0003 NO Error in IMAP command received by server. fetchmail: IMAP< * BYE IMAP4rev1 server shutting down fetchmail: IMAP< A0004 OK LOGOUT completed fetchmail: 5.9.5 querying imap.satyam.net.in (protocol IMAP) at Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:46:29 +0530 (IST): poll completed fetchmail: Query status=3 (AUTHFAIL) fetchmail: normal termination, status 3 Fetchmailrc for this looks like this : poll imap.satyam.net.in with proto imap: user my_login, with password mypasswd,is sachin here; Fetchmail works well with my POP servers Thanks in advance !!! -- S a c h i n N a i k If you took all of the grains of sand in the world, and lined them up end to end in a row, you'd be working for the government! -- Mr. Interesting

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Booting problem, kernel panic, tried to kill idle process
by Satya 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

Booting problem, kernel panic, tried to kill idle process, keeps asking for fsck of root partition. That is a summary of what happens when my mom tries to boot the Linux box that she's trying to use. That's all I could gather over the phone. It's a Redhat box with custom kernel etc. It was working when I left. Could someone go over there (Prabhadevi) and find out what the real problem is, and fix it? She has the root password and her user account. I'd do it, but being in California is a problem. Contact me privately if you are able and willing to do this. If you could find the problem with and fix the CPU fan as well, that's a plus. -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> Shh! Be vewy quiet, I'm hunting wuntime errors!

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trouble with ecos
by rahil 15 Nov '01

15 Nov '01

Hi has anyone any experince running ecos(it's an RTOS) on mandrake 8.0. __vt_9bad_alloc hasdifferent size in shared object,consider re-linking is the error being encountered if anyone can give me any leads it will be helpful. Rahil

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Lug meet
by Anand 15 Nov '01

15 Nov '01

Finalize timing by friday so that there is sufficient time to inform all. Anand -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit www.smbd.org <http://www.smbd.org> for Free Tutorials, Source Codes and Other stuff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[OT] Lug Web Site and Mailing List
by Parag Mehta 15 Nov '01

15 Nov '01

Hi ALl, as of now we are facing some issues with the management of mailman and php-nuke. hence there are some issues with adminsitrative approvals of mails to the list and web site postings held for approval. We are working on it and will get them rectified asap. Best Regards, pm List Admin.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Unix Baby Command Man Page
by Parag Mehta 15 Nov '01

15 Nov '01

Hi, Please do not post this kind of stuipid and offensive mails. this is no humour and u should unserstand that this no mailing list for this kind of nonsense humour mails. next time this kinds of mails to the list will end in removal from the list permanently. Also the mail was not marked as OT in the subject. Best Regards, pm ListAdmin

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linux in engg colleges
by Triptpal Singh 14 Nov '01

14 Nov '01

I have just done my BE (comps) from the university. To the best of my knowledge , my college , Ram rao Adik Institute of technology,Nerul,DY patil vidyanagar is the only college to have a first class Linux server lab with RH being used. Also it is the only college which probably has a LUG in the college -complete with mailing list and all....we all had login/passwds ,email accts... the best thing is this - all this is being managed by students -dedicated ones. Why dosent someone get in touch with RAIT and then go slowly from there - word spreads... ALso yes FE Unix is confirmed - but pls dont be too optimistic ...heres the real scene - FE's (first year guys) have 6 subjects , Unix with C being one of them For most , programming is a new concept , Unix being the extra burden. Infact for most professors too , Unix is a alien idea , anything the students do outside the cheap 100/- guides available will be adding to the limited knowledge the professor has. So all students will stick to textbooks since no one does practicals in engineering till maybe 3/4th year. Also Linux initiative in colleges - pls catch only 2/3rd year students. reason - only students who will want to work for u are students who want to do an MS in CS/EE/CE in usa. For which they need to show they were geeks all along , Linux being the perfect route ..specially when they do something for college - like organise "seminars " for NCST and TIFR(biig names) guys. this will be exaggerated to one paragraph in their recommendations and most engineering profs will blindly sign --so pls be careful abt the whole scene. again we might also get something useful by getting some awareness. I can contribute on sundays...in Mumbai...after december.. and yea right now I am in PCS , working for General Electric-Aircraft Engines on Java/JSP/servlets .....this is where most engineer learn their fundas - the 3 month industry training after college .. Regards Tript "It is much more comfortable to be mad and know it, than to be sane and have one's doubts." - G. B. Burgin

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TROWSER presentation on lug meet
by Anand 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

On 18th Lug meet, I would like to make a 15 minute presentation on TROWSER. In the last few days, I have been thinking on how to make it really beneficial for contributors in other words, how open source can really benefit the contributors. I would like to unveil a newer method of guaranteeing returns to contributors of the open source and free software. Please inform me in case any protocols or formalities need to be observed. Anand -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit www.smbd.org <http://www.smbd.org> for Free Tutorials, Source Codes and Other stuff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Linux localization for Hindi
by Keyur Shroff 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

Hello, We are happy to announce the availability of a Beta version of Linux localized for Hindi. We have localized the graphical user interface (GUI) in a genric fashion for Indian language support. The system has been developed under the project name "IndiX" and it is funded by Ministry of Information Technology, Government of India under their "Technology Development for Indian Languages (TDIL)" programme. The system has been put in the public domain and you can download binaries as well as source files. Related documents are also available on the net. Knowing your deep interest in Indian language computing, we would be grateful if you can take some effort to install this system on one of your computers and give us feedback over the next four weeks. To download this "IndiX" system, please visit http://rohini.ncst.ernet.in/indix Thanking you, Keyur Shroff PS : Interested people are invited to NCST and have a look at the work. Your feedback is very much valuable to us. ----------------------------------------------------- Keyur Shroff Staff Scientist National Centre for Software Technology (NCST) Juhu, Mumbai, India. Tel. : (022) 6201606, 6201574 http://www.ncst.ernet.in -----------------------------------------------------

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Linux in Education report #57
by Philip S Tellis 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

The Simple End User's Linux (seul), education branch has just come out with #57 of its Linux in Education report. Available at http://www.seul.org/edu/report57.html, it covers several case studies, software for use in schools, and also a complete linux distribution for schools (kmLinux). Also featured are tools for course management. Worth a read. Philip -- Don't diddle code to make it faster - find a better algorithm. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plaugher) Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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GNU/LUG Meet on 18th 4: 30pm
by Nagarjuna G. 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

Finally we are meeting this sunday 18th at 4:30pm. Venue: HBCSE, for those who do not know the venue read here: http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/hbcse/main/location/. Nagarjuna

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iSCSI
by LInux LOver 12 Nov '01

12 Nov '01

Dear Linuxers, I have installed redhat 7.2 and found something named iSCSI .... can somebody explain the advantage of iSCSI over IDE Even /dev/cdrom which is normally sym linked to IDE CD-ROM viz. /dev/hdd does not work under 7.2 instead /dev/cdrom1 is sym linked to /dev/sdd01 which works for IDE CDROM... regards lilo

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users have been locked out passwd -l
by Un|tZ 12 Nov '01

12 Nov '01

hi friends i was checking out the passwd -l (to lock a particular account) option on one of my linux systems. I found that it locked the account alrite and then i tried to unlock the account by using the passwd -u option and i failed. i mean, the -u option shows that the account has been unlocked but when i try to login with the same user account, the login fails. Now this has affected all the users on my system. I can't seem to login from any of the users except root. Please help me out from this mess. Thanks in advance Dharmesh _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Fwd: Manage your portal from one single control panel !!
by Prakash Shetty 11 Nov '01

11 Nov '01

Dear Parag, Looks like some ones ripping off people selling them PHP Nuke Best Regards Prakash Shetty -----Original Message----- From: "Cybervapi.com" <sales(a)cybervapi.com> To: cruxware(a)yahoo.com Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 18:01:55 +0500 Subject: Manage your portal from one single control panel !! From, http://www.cybervapi.com Gujarat, India Hello, How many times have you felt a pain in the neck while updating your portal?? The answer is 'almost every time'. Portal discontinuation has become a common phenomena worldwide, and one of the widely accepted reason is the frequent updating. Its too tough to do that and when its done, its definitely lightens your pocket...a lot. We have develop a comprehensive solution whereby you can manage your complete portal from one single control panel. The power of the program is beyond imagination. The best feature of the program is that you will never have to use FTP to upload any html files or images. The complete portal is maintained by a browser based control panel with a multi user facility with permissions. The key components are: · User Registration · News/Announcement/Event Management System : Any user can post news, announcements, events etc, bull will be displayed only after the admin validates it. Comes with a Topic Manager. · Web based admin - GUI · Yellow Pages (as add-on) · Shopping Cart (as add-on) · Surveys · Photo Gallery · Mailing list · Discussion Forum · Top page Message · pageviews stats page with counter · User customizable box · Themes for registered users · Moderation system · Who links us · Sections manager · Customizable HTML blocks · User and authors edit · Banners Ads system · Search engine - internal · Directory based search engine Links · Download Manager · Calendar · Feedback · Guestbook · People Search · Instant Messenger · FAQ Manager · Reviews .................and much more The pricing are just beyond imagination. Starts from as low as Rs 9999/-. For more info on the program, please visit http://www.cybervapi.com/portal/ Please do get in touch with us if this is of interest to you. We would greatly appreciate you forwarding this mail to the concerned person. Best Regards Owais K Cybervapi.com email : sales(a)cybervapi.com ======================================================== " CYBERVAPI.COM " 'Internet Solutions at its best' Tel: 0260-424287 GSM: +919825130401 Email: sales(a)cybervapi.com Internet: http://www.cybervapi.com Y! msg id: "crm_cybervapi" -------------------------------------------- http://www.gujaratplus.com ' Rediscover Gujarat......Rediscover the Gujarati in You ! http://www.searchgujarat.com ' Gujarat's First and Only Search Engine ' http://www.cybervapi.com/wap ' WAPitised your site today ' ======================================================== Removal Instruction : If you do not want to receive any more offers and opportunities from us and want to be permanently removed from our list, please send a blank email to list(a)cybervapi.com with the Subject Remove and we will not send any further emails to you. Thanking you for your cooperation!

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Red Hat Linux 7.2 CDs....
by Desai Ashish 11 Nov '01

11 Nov '01

Dear Luggers... Any one of having Red Hat Linux 7.2 Cds...? Then can any one of u burn those CDs burn 4 me...? Plz. .....? Regards, [Ashish] ===== [Ashish Desai] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

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[Announce] NTFS for Linux v 1.4.0
by Philip S Tellis 11 Nov '01

11 Nov '01

Anyone who uses Linux to read NTFS partitions on NT, 2000 and XP should upgrade to NTFS tools 1.4.0. Out now. Includes support for XP, and creation of small NTFS partitions (to make NTFS floppies). Philip -- GIVE: Support the helpless victims of computer error. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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our ftp server down?
by Kishor Bhagwat 10 Nov '01

10 Nov '01

hi, is our ftp server down? incidentally, does it have the mandrake 8.1 iso? regards, kishor _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Next Meet
by noel seq 10 Nov '01

10 Nov '01

Hi, Is the next meet confirmed at HBCSE at 4.30 pm. How do i get there by train (dadar) The ilug-bom.org.in site shows the meet to be on 31st Aug. Noel. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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So You Want To Start Your Own LUG ?
by Bhushan Tiwari 10 Nov '01

10 Nov '01

http://i-want-a-website.com/about-linux/articles/jun00/ask-lug.shtml Bhushan Tiwari _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Unix Baby Command Man Page
by Bhushan Tiwari 10 Nov '01

10 Nov '01

BABY(1) USER COMMANDS BABY(1) NAME baby - create new process from two parents SYNOPSIS baby -sex m|f [ -name name ] DESCRIPTION Baby is initiated when one parent process polls another server process through a socket connection in the BSD version or through pipes in the System V implementation. Baby runs at a low priority for approximately forty weeks and then terminates with a heavy system load. Most systems require constant monitoring when baby reaches its final stages of execution. Older implementations of baby did not require both initiating processes to be present at the time of completion. In those versions, the initiating process which was not present was awakened and notified of the results upon completion. It has since been determined that the presence of both parent processes results in generally lower system loads at the completion, and thus current versions of baby expect both parent processes to be active during the final stages. Successful completion of baby(1) results in the creation and naming of a new process. Parent processes then broadcast messages to all other processes, local and remote, informing them of their new status. OPTIONS -sex............define the gender of the created process -name.........assign the name name to the new process EXAMPLES % baby -sex f -name Jacqueline % completed successfully on July 9, 1992 at 9:11PM % vital statistics: 8 pounds 3oz, 20 inches, dark hair % The parent process, Kim Dunbar, is reportedly doing fine SEE ALSO cigar(6),dump(5),cry(3) BUGS Despite its complexity, baby only knows one signal, SIGCHLD, (or SIGCLD in the System V implementation), which it uses to contact the parent processes. One or both parent processes must then inspect the baby process to determine the signal's cause. The sleep command may not work as expected on either parent process for some time afterward, as each new instance of baby sends intermittent signals to the parent processes which must be handled by the parents immediately. A baby process will frequently dump core, requiring either or both parent processes to clean up after it. Despite the reams of available documentation on invoking and maintaining baby, most parent processes are overwhelmed. BABY BUG REPORT: Mr. Dunbar distributed the man pages for baby(1) this morning. I wish to confirm some known bugs, give possible solutions, and to warn him of several undocumented bugs. We have also experienced the following undesirable behavior (as documented in the man pages) following the use of the baby(1) command using the syntax shown below: baby -sex f -name Beth (in 1989) baby -sex m -name Daniel (in 1991) For the first 1.552e+07 seconds after the child process was started, neither parent process was able to execute the sleep command when the argument exceeded 600. While this bug was noted in the baby man page, the man page clearly states that the child process will only send SIGCHLD signals. Experience demonstrated that the child process sent SIGURG signals as well as SIGCHLD signals, even though the conditions requiring urgent processind did not exist with the child process. Extensive research indicated that most signals were generally related to an I/O problem with the child process. In almost all cases, the signals indicated the child process either required input, or the output bin was full. In the case of the output bin full, the condition can be easily detected with the diapercheck(1) command using the -smell qualifier. However, in some cases, the child process continued to send the SIGURG signals for unknown reasons after the I/O problem was rectified. In these cases the kill(1) command was considered as a possible alternative, but was considered unacceptable by the system administrator. Additionally, we found that the first child process (-name Beth) began executing whine(2) continuously for no apparent reason beginning 1.5 years after the process startup. This condition appears to be ongoing even though the process has been running for 3.5 years. Unfortunately, it appears that this bug is getting steadily worse. The condition surrounding the bug is still being investigated, and no solution has been discovered to date. ******************************************************************** Anyone w/out a Sense of Humor Is At The Mercy of The Rest of Us. :-) ******************************************************************** Bhushan Tiwari _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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[OT] Balancing of the AVL trees
by Kinjal Sonpal 10 Nov '01

10 Nov '01

Dear all !! I'm here with one more problem. This might not be toatlly related to Linux (other than myself using gcc on Linux), but I'm a bit confused with this problem. So plz help. The question : While balancing a disturbed AVL tree, we normally adapt the bottom-up approach (This is the only approach, I guess), ie, we start by balancing the lowermost subtree in the tree and go on to balance the very next upper tree. Now, my questions is that, is it okay to rebalance an already balanced subtree in order to achieve proper balance of it's parent tree? In other words, if the balance of a subtree is within the aceptable limits, can we still rearrange the tree? Hope ppl on the list won't mind this OT question. Thanks a lot in advance. Regs, Kinjal Sonpal

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System Crash
by Q u a s i 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

Folks, I tried to mount a multi-session disk made with Nero and the Box Crashed... I had to use reset. I am running Debian (unstable). quasi _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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(no subject)
by Vishwanath V 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

Hi guys, I got my cable net connection yesterday. The client spftware used by my cable wala is cyberoam client. i found out one for linux. But it says authentication failure check username and password...... I have made appropriate changes in the conf files. Any body knows how to make cyberoam client work on windows ......... ___________________________________________________________________ *NEW* Yahoo! Messenger for SMS. Now on your Celforce phone *NEW* Visit http://in.mobile.yahoo.com/smsmgr_signin.html

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] To be a part of the game you have to play game
by nici bhatt 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

hi i do appreciate your prompt reply about this mail but you didnt pick my word I am well aware about SAMBA but things which I am looking for is just install one protocol and u r through. You dont have to configure any thing. You tell me how much configuration is involved in getting SAMBA up I know it. how can you aspect one dum user of windows network to do all this configuration. So I am in search of one protocol which will help me to minimize this hard efforts and your desktop is on highway straight-away nici >From: Philip S Tellis <philip.tellis(a)iname.com> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] To be a part of the game you have to play game >Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:36:58 +0530 (IST) > >On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, nici bhatt wrote: > > > so first what i am looking for is protocol the way we look entire > > network in win95/win98/w2k that is uses netbui protocol if you > > remove this and you will see nothing so is there anybody who can > > contribute to this development on linux where by you can easily plug > > your desktop in this kind of protocol and look around full network. > >It's called SaMBa, and there's a client called Linneighbourhood that >acts like network neighbourhood in windows. Allows you to brows the >entire windows network, as well as other samba servers. Needs a little >more work though. > > > > i know this will not help much because your file system will be > > different so it's of no help but still this can help us to the > > protocol level where all services talking to each other in windows > > network and you have that, then your work is much simple to push the > > desktop in this kind of network. We can work out at file system > > level at second stage. > >It has nothing to do with your filesystem. Over the network, there is >no filesystem. Samba takes care of everything. > >Philip > >-- >Television -- teacher, mother, secret lover! > > -- Homer Simpson > Treehouse of Horror V > > >Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ >Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ > > MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis > AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328 > >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Using Win2000 Boot Loader.
by Abhishek Gupta 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

Hi there, Just wanted to ask about how do we boot linux using the windows 2000 boot loader. One way is mentioned in the linuxdocs that we extract first 512 bytes using dd= .... command, and copy this image to the windows drive , adding it to the boot.ini. but this doesnt work et al. So if anyone pl. can help on this..... Regards, Abhishek Gupta.

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Using Win2000 Boot Loader.
by Abhishek Gupta 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

Hi there, Just wanted to ask about how do we boot linux using the windows 2000 boot loader. One way is mentioned in the linuxdocs that we extract first 512 bytes using dd= .... command, and copy this image to the windows drive , adding it to the boot.ini. but this doesnt work et al. So if anyone pl. can help on this..... Regards, Abhishek Gupta.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Wat abt our Linux in Schools/Colleges initiative
by Bhushan Tiwari 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

I suggest is, we can have a big Workshop/Seminar of one full day. Our volunteers will visit different colleges and invite students and also professors for the workshop. Volunteers will give a brief Linux introduction at the colleges and invite them for advanced topics ( Custom Distro, Programming, Linux Localization, Server Setups etc..) at the Seminar. Having seminars at different colleges is very time consuming, we can at the most have only 2-3 seminars a month, by the time we reach 6-7 colleges, their regular exams will be getting started and also with the number of volunteers we have, reaching 6 colleges in 2 months is a big task. The Seminar/Workshop can be held at any college auditorium, or may be at HBCSE. When I had taken a lecture on Linux at Patkar college, Goregaon, students there were more keen to know the alternatives to MS Applications and how could they implement it. Giving them a customised distro wouldn't be helpfull if they don't even know the applications available in Linux. I support the development of customised Distro, instead we can involve interested students from colleges in this process who in turn will be promoting it in their respective circles. Having a common seminar for everyone will help us present in a better way. There won't be a time barrier as when doing at colleges. This way we can target large and interested audience. We can invite private institutions also and can have sponsors for the seminar. Some volunteers can go to commercial organisations for sponsorship. Bhushan Tiwari _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Cable net client for LINUX
by Vishwanath V 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

Hi guys, I got my cable net connection yesterday. The client spftware used by my cable wala is cyberoam client. i found out one for linux. http://sourceforge.net/projects/cyberoam/ But it says authentication failure check username and password...... I have made appropriate changes in the conf files. Any body knows how to make cyberoam client work on Linux......... ___________________________________________________________________ *NEW* Yahoo! Messenger for SMS. Now on your Celforce phone *NEW* Visit http://in.mobile.yahoo.com/smsmgr_signin.html

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To be a part of the game you have to play game
by nici bhatt 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

Hi my subject make's it more clear what my intension is. and that is if you want to push linux as major desktop os then you have to play the game the way your competitor play. so first what i am looking for is protocol the way we look entire network in win95/win98/w2k that is uses netbui protocol if you remove this and you will see nothing so is there anybody who can contribute to this development on linux where by you can easily plug your desktop in this kind of protocol and look around full network. i know this will not help much because your file system will be different so it's of no help but still this can help us to the protocol level where all services talking to each other in windows network and you have that, then your work is much simple to push the desktop in this kind of network. We can work out at file system level at second stage. So is there anyone who can contribute to protocol level development or some one interested in such idiot work I know this sounds like crazy idea but some how I faced this problem and I want to overcome this. So anybody there..? nici _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Require Linux based software.
by vinodbhaskar＠sify.com 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

Hi friends, We are a Coimbatore based Yarn Marketing company. We are in the process of migrating to Linux. We had installed Mandrake Linux 8.0. Now we are developing our inhouse B2B application in PHP and MySQL For this purpose we require the following software immediately. Please let us know where these software will be available at Mumbai and what will be the cost if any. The software required are 1. Groupware Server for Linux 2. IBM Websphere 3. Transaction Server (BEA Weblogic) 4. Security Server for Linux (SSL) 128 bit encryption using DES 16 bit chaining 5. MYSQL with high end replication backup and multiple transaction support. Thank you, Regards, Vinod.B ------------------------------------------------- This mail helped a tree grow. Know more at http://green.sify.com Want to win a PC or Palm Tops or Digital Diaries or T-Shirts? Click here http://promos.sify.com/niit/main.asp?mail

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[OT] cc4.tifr.res.in
by Aarjav Trivedi 08 Nov '01

08 Nov '01

Hello this is probably way OT but someone from cc4.tifr.res.in , the TIFR network tried a TCP attack on my pc. I was running zonealarm on Windows and used Neotrace , so i got the ip address, which led me to the HBCSE website. The only way that I am familiar to HBCSE is that i think this list was previously hosted at HBCSE.TIFR.RES.IN. Any ideas whats happening ? Or am i just getting more nervous than I should be ? regards Aarjav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

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Red Hat Liux 7.2 CDs...
by Desai Ashish 08 Nov '01

08 Nov '01

Dear Luggers..., Any one of u have Red Hat Linux 7.2 CDs....??? Kindly burn it for me Friend...! PLZ.... Thanx in Advance... Regards, [Ashish] ===== [Ashish Desai] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] OT - will like it....read till end.
by Nikhil Joshi 08 Nov '01

08 Nov '01

>1. Bill Gates earns US$250 every SECOND, that's about US$20 Million Cool! Another interesting site: http://www.quuxuum.org/~evan/bgnw.html Good details about billy's net worth P.S. Please avoid HTML formatting in your mails . I was informed when I joined the list . I guess it's my duty to inform you too :-) In Microsoft Outlook Express click Format-->Plain Text Rgrds Nikhil __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

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ur articles/tips & tricks
by shahazad＠linuxplanet.nu 08 Nov '01

08 Nov '01

hi all, Currently i am developing my own website wherein i have made a section for linux, it would constitute of linux articles, tips & tricks, howto's etc. So if anyone interested in contributing there articles, please mail it to me at shahazad(a)linuxplanet.nu The website will be up & running within a weeks time , the front end is ready and currently i am working on the backend .. Please note that this is voluntary & your name will be intact with your document. thanx rgds </shahazad> -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Wat abt our Linux in Schools/Colleges initiative
by Nikhil Karkera 08 Nov '01

08 Nov '01

> > Just last week i was conductin trainin for Novel. > > And guess wat, durin the trainin it just came up > > that > > novell was drawin up a game plan towards attackin > > schools/colleges with Netware/NDS and a whole lot of > > crappy s/w. > > > > I guess it's high time we got into aktion.....I hav > > been tryin to do my bit for the past 1.5 years at > > various Engineerin colleges evangelin abt Open > > Source. Hi, I think in the new engineering syllabus (starting this academic year), First Year students have Unix in their portion (someone please confirm this). In that case they *have* to use Linux on their machines. Regards, Nikhil.

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Fw: [LIH] [commercial] Fw: [TwinCLinG] Linux in a teaspoon
by Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. 08 Nov '01

08 Nov '01

Picked this up on the Linux-India list. Maybe someone might find it useful. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Doc Partha (who's written the linux pre and post installation checklists - both part of the ldp) has been working with several other ilug-hyderabad members on this project for quite some time. It looks really good. -srs ----- Forwarded message from Partha <algolog(a)hd1.vsnl.net.in> ----- From: Partha <algolog(a)hd1.vsnl.net.in> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 11:56:25 +0530 Subject: [TwinCLinG] Linux in a teaspoon Organization: Algologic Research & Solutions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) Reply-To: ilughyd(a)yahoogroups.com *** "Linux in a Teaspoon" (Ver. 3) *** Looking for an excellent one-stop resource for learning about Linux ? Want a handy one-stop answer for all your questions about Linux ? "Linux in a teaspoon" -- is a one CDROM collection of tutorial material on Linux. the first two versions of "Linux in a teaspoon" were extremely appreciated by those who have used it. "Linux in a Teaspoon" (Ver. 3) is getting ready and will be made only in a limited number of copies. Book your CD today. Tell your friends too. Makes an ideal gift for students of computer science. Can be a handy resource for educational institutions and even seasoned Linux professionals. What does this CD contain ? Over 40 full-length text books + over 200 HOWTO documents covering every aspect of Linux in a profound but readable style + over 120 mini-HOWTOs + tons of tutorial material + numerous links and pointers to more resources on the w-w-web + 70 issues of Linux Gazette (the journal which has answers to almost all your queries on Linux) ...... .... all this spread over 17 000 (yes, seventeen thousand) files in over 3000 (three thousand +) directories, with a single easy-to-use top-level navigational index. How to get a copy ? Book your copy by email: algolog(a)hd1.vsnl.net.in How much does it cost ? Modest price, to meet copying, media costs, delivery and direct overheads only. Details will be sent in reply to your enquiry by email. CDs will be delivered to you (within India) by courier/SPEEDPOST. **** -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. S. Parthasarathy | Phone: + 91 - 40 - 775 1650 Algologic Research & Solutions | FAX: + 91 - 40 - 775 1135 78 Sancharpuri Colony, Bowenpally P.O. | Secunderabad 500 011 - INDIA | e mail: mailto:algolog@hd1.vsnl.net.in (Note: h-d-one after @ symbol) WWW-URL: http://algolog.tripod.com PGP Public key: http://algolog.tripod.com/publikey.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri Mumbai, India.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Blocking Porno / Downloads
by nilesh patil 08 Nov '01

08 Nov '01

the best way of protecting the porno ,is use the SQUID GAURD in congestion with SQUID. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandeep Periwal Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 1:44 PM To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Blocking Porno / Downloads Yes we are using SQUID. I plan to do that as First step... I have also located a couple lists of black listed site having over '000 os sites. I also plan to do block sie by Key words like "@#$%", "*****". How should I achieve this. Any other suggestions... --Sandeep > Do you use squid proxy..... if YES... use the (access control list) to block > those sites by analysing the logs.... for more info see squid how-to. > lilo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: YAHOO <sandeep_from(a)yahoo.com> > To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 10:02 AM > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Blocking Porno / Downloads > > > > Hi, > > > > Is ther any way I can block prono using Linux Firewall or some kown > > application. > > My network is getting too messy and I need a solution ASAP. > > I also need to block downloads like MP3 etc. I have a cable connection it > is > > being misused greatly. > > > > Also can Viruses be blocked using a Firewall ??? > > If "YES", what is the concept behind it.... > > > > Some urgent steps needed .. > > --Sandeep > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxersGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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Wat abt our Linux in Schools/Colleges initiative
by noel seq 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

>From: "YAHOO" <sandeep_from(a)yahoo.com> >> >Hey Guys.. >I am not really a Techie, but want to be a part of the team... >Do u folks thing there is anything for me to conribute........... >Now don't pull me in to stand & clap, I sure can manage more than that :-) >--Sandeep Yup. Sandeep you echoed my thoughts. I too want to contribute. Regards, Noel. Gnu/Linux registered user #226476 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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ext3, pcq 7.1 , util-linux2.11l , mounting vfat and me face probs
by Ritesh H Shukla 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

Hi, 1) I compiled the kernel with EXT3 support in the kernel itself. I downloaded the latest patch.I am using 2.4.13 2) downloaded the util-linux2.11f first installed it 3) downloaded e2fsprogs.. installed.. afte i rebooted my /dev/hda5 partition is not geting mounted properly ls -l shows it as a directory as 8 k and cd says not a directory also during bootup I get a swapon error saying that invalid -e option. booting from an older kernel does not give any such errors... What do i do to solve my problem... -Ritesh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

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Modem
by Vijay Stevens 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

What is the option I have to include in the Modem files to make the modem dial without waiting for the dial tone? Vijay

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Wat abt our Linux in Schools/Colleges initiative
by Q u a s i 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

At 06:53 PM 11/6/01 +0530, you wrote: >On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Sandeep Periwal <yahoo> wrote: > > > True Philip I agree, but I think if some folks can volunter, may be > > we can do a pilot with one shcool, and if successful add more. May > > be I am too optimistic !! what does ur experience say. > >Well, schools follow a strict syllabus that is not open to >experimentation like colleges are. So that is a real problem. > >Philip Apart from this I doubt that a lot of schools have many computers and free access for students. Computers _may_ be some optional course in some school, but most of the schools have a small lab with a few computers. The thing here would be to introduce the teachers to Linux who in turn will enlighten the students. quasi _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Wat abt our Linux in Schools/Colleges initiative
by Q u a s i 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

At 05:28 PM 11/6/01 +0530, Philip wrote: >On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Vaibhav Arya wrote: > > > 3. Admin Desktop: Student Desktop minus EE/MechE packages, plus email > > clients, plus Line of Business apps (accounting, etc) And most important, > > Wine / DosEMU -- To be able to run existing Windows apps that they are used > > to. > >Wine/dosemu cannot run all windows apps. I'd suggest letting admin >stick with windows until these tools are mature enough. Let the college >ease into linux, and then let them ask for the change. Maybe put just >one or two admin machines with linux. > >Also, better than having separate machines for admin/students, I'd >suggest something similar to what the govt in Florida has done. They >have a single very powerful server (11GB RAM), and a separate >application server (also a lot of RAM). The server runs X clients, and >xdm I think. Then, they have several very thin clients - basically >keyboard, display and network card. These boot of a bootprom in the >netcard, connect to the server, and let the user log in directly to xdm. How many machines will be Linuxed (shifted to linux under our initiative '-) in a typical college setting? Do we really require such exotic hardware as with 11GB of ram? Could we not manage with say a P4 or Atholon dual processor with 1-2 GB or ram (with 128Mb(a)Rs.600 right now it seems possible)? And the very thin clients could be replaced with already existing P100Mhz's & 486's & such older hardware? What is happening is that many places the older machines are being neglected as they cannot comfortably run, say O2K or some such hogg software. Most importantly I suppose we must see what the machines are used primarily in college for. I think that programming (for the CS depts.), running special software (for other depts.) and creating reports and other documentation will be a primarily task. quasi _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Perl in schools
by Philip S Tellis 06 Nov '01

06 Nov '01

This document explains how one guy taught perl to middle school students (std 4, 5, 6). http://home.mindspring.com/~djrassoc01/PoP/Pop1.html And here's the discussion on comp.lang.perl.misc: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&frame=right&th=a2fa149f2fb445bc&seekm… Read both before commenting. Philip -- /* Nobody will ever see this message :-) */ panic("Cannot initialize video hardware\n"); 2.0.38 /usr/src/linux/arch/m68k/atari/atafb.c Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Wat abt our Linux in Schools/Colleges initiative
by Darshan.Wakchaure＠lntinfotech.com 06 Nov '01

06 Nov '01

Thats a very good idead Vaibhav... Darshan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Wat abt our Linux in Schools/Colleges initiative
by Darshan.Wakchaure＠lntinfotech.com 06 Nov '01

06 Nov '01

Hi, The agenda, sure, but what are are we upto - building Linux awareness or community? Awareness i guess will be the right approach, and leave it to the individual to carry it on further by him/herself. A small plan can be chalked out at first place, we can modify and work on it. Darshan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Modem string to skip waitfor dialtone
by Q u a s i 06 Nov '01

06 Nov '01

At 08:12 PM 11/5/01 +0530, Philip wrote: >On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Q u a s i wrote: > > > Or maybe just adding X1 may help. My modem manual says - > > X1 : Hayes Smartmodem 300 compatible responses/all CONNECT responses/blind > > dialing > > > > the blind dialing part says that it starts dialing without waiting > > for dialtone etc. This should work with most modems as most modems > > are Hayes compatible. > >Hayes compatibility does not apply to eXtended commands. These are >modem specifc. Some of them are standard, but many are implemented by >the modem manufacturer specially. That's why you have different modem >drivers for different modems. > >He will have to check his manual for the specific codes for his modem, >or ask someone else with the same mode. I beg to differ. The ATX? commands are from the basic set and hence probably applicable to all Hayes compatible modems.. The eXtended commands (for my modem) start with a '&'. quasi _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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re: re: NFS problem
by Sagar Sule 05 Nov '01

05 Nov '01

hello all again, well as to two replies from nagarajun and juju.... first of all, no, nagarjun, i do not have a special kernel compiled for the specific client but a precompiled kernel from ltsp.org. they have a variety to choose from depending upon the network card. eg. there is one for ne2000, one for tulip, one for rtl8139 (which i am using since my client has dlink 538tx+ n/w card) there is a generic one too and i tried that one also. and juju, when i said "restart" i physically rebooted the server (where nfs is running) also rebooted the client but the problem still exists. thanx for ur help in advance regards sagar ===== When you have hit rock bottom, The only way you can go is UP! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

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Preemptible Kernel Patch
by Aarjav Trivedi 05 Nov '01

05 Nov '01

Hi I just read some stuff on the net about the preemptible kernel patch. It seems it does increase the speed of system response for the avg user. (is that what latency means ?) Has anyone tried it ? If so where can i find it ? thanks Aarjav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

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Wat abt our Linux in Schools/Colleges initiative
by Trevor Warren 05 Nov '01

05 Nov '01

hey all u luggers........ Just last week i was conductin trainin for Novel. And guess wat, durin the trainin it just came up that novell was drawin up a game plan towards attackin schools/colleges with Netware/NDS and a whole lot of crappy s/w. I guess it's high time we got into aktion.....I hav been tryin to do my bit for the past 1.5 years at various Engineerin colleges evangelin abt Open Source. I am of the opinion lets get to it before these other guys grab the moolah outta our aldready impoverished education system. We can pick up clues from the K12 Education initiative in the U.S. Lets get started.......atleast i want to start with 1 Engineernig college all over Maharashtra every 2-3 weeks. Lets see some AKTION..... Trevor Warren ===== ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.trevorwarren.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com \ (/ | |_|_ \ Urgent ->9820349221(a)maxtouch.co.in / / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

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NFS problem....
by Sagar Sule 04 Nov '01

04 Nov '01

hello all, i am installing a Diskless client. i am using a package from Linux Terminal Server Project(www.ltsp.org ). the package did all my configuration. the problem is once the client boots, it downloads the kernel and then says kernel panic. the error is due to NFS root not found. my main problem is even though the /etc/exports file is updated and i restarted the server just to make sure nfs reads the /etc/exports file, the /proc/fs/nfs/xtab file does not have entries for the exported filesystem. exportsfs does show that the file system is exported. any more ideas why this is happening? thanks sagar ===== When you have hit rock bottom, The only way you can go is UP! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

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[tech] [info] Security in Linux
by Philip S Tellis 04 Nov '01

04 Nov '01

<preamble> Here's something I cooked together for my recent lecture at VJTI. For those of you who do not know, there was a workshop for Engg College Faculty on Linux. Nagarjuna and I were guest lecturers. I spoke on Security and the Kernel, while Nagarjuna introduced linux. Here's the security part. I'll post the kernel part in a separate mail. Feel free to correct bugs. This could also be considered a FAQ from the tcpd wrappers thread. Online version available on my writings page (see sig). NOTE: Heavy dependence on files available either on your machine, or on the net. </preamble> Security in Linux (from the linux security FAQ) Definitions: Linux - the kernel of linux based operating systems, which include the GNU/Linux system Cracker - someone who gains unauthorised access to a system. Not to be confused with a hacker. A hacker is really someone who like to play with computers and write good software. The media often tends to confuse the two. Hackers create, Crackers break. IDS - Intrusion detection system. A system that tries to detect if your system has been compromised, and warns you of it. Tripwire - A kind of IDS that checks whether critical system binaries and configuration files have been modified or not. Firewall - a system that filters traffic moving from outside the network to inside, and vice-versa. Port scanner - a program that checks a host to see which ports are open for external connections. It generally does a blind connect on all ports of a host. Some port scanners can do stealth scanning. Security scanner - a program that checks a host for known vulnerabilities. Security scanners generally try to exploit a vulnerability without causing any harmful effects that would happen in a genuine break in. Some exploits are desined to crash a system, and in these cases, the security scanner may well have to crash a system if it is vulnerable. It is better though to be crashed while scanning your own system, than when someone is actually trying to crash you. Introduction Some of the most common questions asked by people trying to secure their linux systems are: What is security? How can I protect myself from a break-in? How secure should my linux box be? Which is the most secure linux distribution? Security, in a nutshell, is ensuring the Confidentiality, Integrity, and Availability of your systems and network. In short, to protect yourself, you should install the most recent security patches for your distro, turn off unused/unrequired services, run the others through tcpwrappers, and instead of telnet/ftp for remote access, use a secure alternative. The rest of this document will attempt to cover in more detail how to go about securing your linux system. Most important is to decide how secure you need to be. You need to assess the risk to you, and base your security on that. risk=(threat*vulnerability*impact) Threat: the probability of being attacked Vulnerability: how easy is it to break in Impact: what is the cost of recovering from an attack You cannot be 100% secure because there will always be security holes that you either do not know about, or are infeasible to patch. When picking a distribution with security in mind, you should really pick one that has secure default values that you can tweak later. There's no point in installing a system that someone breaks into before you even have a chance to secure it. Distributions like Secure Linux (http://www.trustix.net/) and slinux (http://www.slinux.org/) aim to set secure defaults. Most distros do not have secure defaults because this tends to make the system hard for end users to use. Securing a system is really a trade-off between convenience to your users, and protecting their data. In general, never rely on the default installation of any distribution. Consult the Linux Administrator's Security Guide at http://www.seifried.org/lasg/ for information on how to secure specific distributions. Alternately, OpenBSD, was designed from the ground up as a secure unix, and is probably your best choice for a pure unix implementation. OpenBSD servers and firewalls are extremely secure. A good idea would be to set up a rather open internal network, with tight security between the inside and the outside. That way, local users still have all the convenience, while the system is secure from an external threat. There are still two problems with this approach. If you have legitimate users who need to connect to your system remotely, they would be inconvenienced by your external security. This shouldn't be an issue, as opening up your system to one person, can really open it up to the world. On the inside too, if your users cannot be trusted, then lax internal security could hurt you. Your users could compromise your system by simply not setting good passwords, or leaving their terminals logged in while they are away. There have been cases when crackers have walked into offices, and found system passwords pasted on the office bulletin board for everyone's convenience. Although hitherto unheard of in India, companies abroad have been known to place spies in competitor's companies to steal corporate secrets. There's no use in having the ultimate in network security if your employee is simply going to copy all your secrets onto a floppy and walk out with it. Apart from securing each computer system, and the network as a whole, one also needs to physically secure the entire installation. Firewalls To protect your network, you'd use a firewall between your internal network and the rest of the world. A firewall set up is basically a set of rules that tell the firewall whether a given packet is to be allowed through or not. It can also log information on packets passing through, as well as modify or redirect these packets. Setting up a firewall is very well explained in the linux firewall howto (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Firewall-HOWTO.html). In general, you will require to configure IPChains or IPFilter, depending on whether you have a 2.2 or a 2.4 kernel. A firewall is indispensible to the security of a network. Whether it is a dedicated machine or running as a service on another makes a difference. Since a firewall is meant to filter traffic to and from your network, you ideally want it to sit between your network and the rest of the world. Your firewall would have two network interfaces, one of which connects to your network, and the other to the world. Firewall rules decide which packets get from one side to another. A firewall is generally implemented at the kernel level, and can be fast provided it works completely in memory and does not have too many rules. Ideally, you only want your firewall to filter IPs, and let a higher level service handle service based filtering, for example, have tcpd check if anyone is trying to connect to restricted ports on your system, or use a proxy based system to restrict websites that your users may visit. Better logging can be done at these levels, and they are less demanding on the kernel. Services Run only the services that you require and no more. On a desktop system, which you will not access remotely, there should not be any services. Run different levels of services on different machines. You can find out which services are running by using the ps and netstat commands: ps auxfw will show you a tree structure of processes running, while netstat -ap and netstat -altpu will show you which processes are listening on network ports. You may also want to do a port scan of your machine using a tool like nmap, or a security scanner like nessus. Some really unsafe services include rsh, rcp, rexec. Many versions of sendmail and bind have well known security holes. Also disable echo, discard, finger, daytime, chargen and gopher if you don't use them. Wherever possible, use an encrypted protocol rather than a plain text protocol. for example, use ssh instead of telnet/rsh, use scp instead of ftp, use IMAP w/SSL instead of POP3. On a single user system, you should also disable identd, but on a multiuser system, this is a good way of tracking down problem users on your system. You also want to use tcpwrappers to start your services. tcpwrappers are basically an intermediate between inetd and the service that actually serves a connection, like say telnet. Tcpd will check to see if the connecting host is allowed to connect to this service. Different kinds of access control and logging can be done through tcp wrappers. TCPWrappers TCPWrappers, and their associated configuration files /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow help a system administrator set up good access control for his system. First, some background. Most unix systems use what is called a super server to run other servers. The purpose of a superserver is basically to listen on all ports that you want people to connect to, and when a connection is made to that port, it spawns the relevant server. The advantage of such a set up is threefold. Primarily, all these other servers do not need to implement socket io routines. They simply communicate through stdio, and the superserver connects the socket's io streams to stdio before spawning a server. Secondly, we keep our process table small by not running all servers all the time. Only one server runs all the time, and servers that are never required are never started. A server that is required is run only for the duration that it needs to serve a connection. Finally, and really as a consequence of such a set up, we can implement security centrally, and have all servers benefit from it, even if they have no idea that it exists. In fact, these servers know nothing about security at all. Now, in older systems, the superserver was inetd, or the Internet Daemon. In newer systems, it has been replaced with xinetd, which is simply an extended inetd. xinetd can implement security internally, while inetd spawns an external security handler, most commonly tcpd. The configuration files for these servers are usually /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/xinetd.conf, /etc/xinetd.d/*. We aren't concerned too much about the contents of these files, except what services are started by it. Most commonly, the superserver will start services like telnetd, ftpd, rlogind, rshelld, rstatd, fingerd, talkd, ntalkd, etc. Many of these may not be required, and can be stopped. In inetd, this would involve commenting out the relevant line in inetd.conf, while in xinetd, this would involve setting disabled=yes in /etc/xinetd.d/service_name. Disabling these services altogether will cause an inconvenience for your users. For example, you may want to allow nfs connects from certain hosts within your network, but disable it for everyone else. Furthermore, several services have well known exploits, and detecting when someone is trying these is a good early warning system for a possible attack. This is where tcpwrappers, or tcpd (the tcp daemon) as it is known, comes in. TCPWrappers are basically wrappers around your services. It is implemented in two ways, either through the tcp daemon, which starts the requested service after doing access control checks, or through libwrap, which may be linked into the server itself. Either way, the wrappers rely on the files /etc/hosts.{deny,allow}. The full intent and use of tcp wrappers is well documented, and is shipped with all linux distributions. It can be found in /usr/doc/tcp_wrappers/* or /usr/share/doc/tcp_wrappers/*. Here I will outline the most important usage. How exactly does tcpd come in to play? Instead of directly starting the server, inetd can start tcpd, and tell tcpd to start the correct server after performing any checks, etc. that it wants. If one opens /etc/inetd.conf, one will find against the telnet and ftp lines that the daemon to be spawned is tcpd with in.telned/in.ftpd as arguments. telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd The other values on the line aren't important for that discussion, and you'll figure them out soon enough. Now, in execve parlance, the first argument passed in the argument vector corresponds to argv[0], i.e., the name that the program should call itself. tcpd takes this hint, and calls itself in.telnetd (which is what will show up if you list running processes). It performs its checks, and then execs in.telnetd, passing all file descriptors on. Thus, we have tcpd, which has a single access control file, doing checks for most daemons. Further more, since tcpd comes into the picture only while a connection is being estabilished, and leaves the scene thereafter, there is no overhead involved (except for that during checking, which is what we want). Now, not all servers are started through inetd. Many, like sendmail, apache, and sshd, run as standalone servers. These servers can have tcpd compiled into them using libwrap.a and tcpd.h. They will then automatically check with hosts.allow and hosts.deny. Now all these options must be selected while compiling tcpd and libwrap, but the defaults are decently secure anyway. To check the configuration of your tcpd wrappers, use /sbin/tcpdchk. Give it the -v flag for more information. The hosts.{deny,allow} files Wietse Venema, the creator of tcpd, also developed a 'language' for specifying the access control rules that govern who can use which service. These rules are specified in hosts.allow and hosts.deny. The normal strategy is to deny all connections, and explicitly allow only services that you want people connecting to. For eg: your hosts.deny would read like: ALL: ALL This means deny all services to requests from all addresses. Remember that hosts.allow is checked first, then hosts.deny. The first rule that matches is applied, so basically, if a match is not found in hosts.allow, it will be denied. If hosts.deny is empty or missing, then the default is to grant access. The extended acl language also allows deny rules to be specified in hosts.allow, so you really only have to manipulate a single file. Rather than go into the details of all possible configurations, I'll just paste my own hosts.allow file here, and explain it line by line. Intrusion Detection Intrusion Detection is the ability to detect people trying to compromise your system. Intrusion detection is divided into two main categories, host based, and network based. Basically, if you use a single host to monitor itself, you are using a host based IDS, and if you use a single host to monitor your entire network, you are using a network based IDS. Most home users would use a host based IDS, while universities and offices would have a network based IDS. There are many Intrusion Detection Systems (IDS) for linux, the most popular, for host based and network based is snort. Snort is available from http://www.clark.net/~roesch/security.html. Others are portsentry (http://www.psionic.com/abacus/portsentry/) and lids - the Linux Intrusion detection system (http://www.lids.org). Going into the details of each of these is beyond the scope of this document, but all tools have very good documentation. In addition to an IDS, you would also want to use an Integrity checker, which basically makes sure that none of your binaries and critical configuration files have been modified. When a cracker compromises a system, the first thing he's likely to do, is create a backdoor for himself. There have been many instances where critical binaries like the ssh daemon have been replaced with trojaned versions that capture passwords and mail them back to the cracker. This then gives the attacker free access to the system, even if the original hole is plugged. Tools like tripwire (http://www.tripwire.com/), AIDE (http://www.cs.tut.fi/~rammer/aide.html), and FreeVeracity (http://www.freeveracity.com/) check the integrity of your binaries. Of the above, FreeVeracity is reputed to be very easy to set up and use. Typically, one would create an integrity database when the system is installed, and update it whenever new binaries are installed. The database should always be backed up onto read-only media like a CD. The checker should be run everyday through a cron tab entry, to check all critical files. If the tool finds any discrepancies, it sends a mail to a pre-defined email address. The Integrity Checker should be configured well to prevent false alarms which makes it a hindrance more than an aide. So, how do you know whether you've been compromised or not? CERT has released an advisory to help you identify if an intruder is on your system. The complete document is available at http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/intruder_detection_checklist.html. In short though: - Check your log files, - Look for setuid/setgid files, especially if they are owned by root - Check what your integrity checker has to say about your system binaries - Check for packet sniffers which may or may not be running - If you didn't install it, it shouldn't be there - Check your crontabs and at queues. - Check for services that shouldn't be running on your system - Check /etc/passwd for new accounts/inactive accounts that have suddenly become active Full details, including how to do the above are listed in the abovementioned document. So what do you do once you know that you've been compromised? Well, the first thing is not to panic. It is very important not to disturb any trails that the cracker has left behind, as these can all be used to detect who the attacker was, and even exactly what he did. Very importantly, don't touch anything on the system. Step one is to disconnect the machine from the network. This will not only prevent further attacks, it will also prevent the attacker from covering up his trails if he finds out that he's been caught. To prevent any data from being changed, you should also mount your file systems read-only. Copy all your log files out to another system, or a floppy disk, where you can examine them safely. Analyse the saved data to determine what the attacker did to break in and what he did after that. Restore your system from known pre-compromise backups. Again, CERT has published a white paper on recovering from an attack. It is available at http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/win-UNIX-system_compromise.html Testing Security There are many commercial organisations that will test the security of your system for you. These are costly though. A cheaper alternative may be to use one of the many web based security scanners to test your system. http://www.hackerwhacker.com http://maxvision.net/#free http://www.grc.com http://privacy.net/analyze http://www.secure-me.net/ You shouldn't trust what they tell you, but it will be interesting to monitor your logs and network while an attack is in progress. You can also test yourself by using your own port scanner and security scanners. Nmap (http://www.insecure.org/nmap/) is the most popular and widely used port scanner around, both by black hats and white hats. It can also determine which OS you use, which is what a cracker would need to know to find OS specific vulnerabilities. If nmap can't figure out which OS you're using, that could slow down your attacker for a while. SATAN (Security Analysis Tool for Auditing Networks) that was developed by Dan Farmer of Sun Microsystems, and Wietse Venema (of tcpd fame) from Eindhoven University of Technology, Netherlands, was developed with the specific intent of doing everything that an attacker would do to gain unauthorised access. This tool has been replaced with a next generation version called SAINT (http://www.wwdsi.com/saint/index.html) Nessus (http://www.nessus.org/intro.html) has a plugin based architecture. Vulnerabilities checks are written as plugins, which means that you can check for new holes as they become publicly known, without upgrading your entire binary. Viruses and Trojans The real question in this section is, is linux vulnerable to viruses and trojans. Practically, no. Technically though, it is possible. Due to the design of Linux, it is difficult for viruses to spread far within a system, as they are confined to infecting the user space of the user who executes them. Of course, this is a problem if infected files are launched by root, but as a security conscious individual, you wouldn't be running untrusted files as root, would you? It is theoretically possible for a virus launched by a regular user to escalate its privileges using system exploits; however, a virus with this capability would be quite sizable, and difficult to write. As of this date, few viruses have actually been discovered for Linux, and the ones that have been discovered aren't worth losing sleep over. This will undoubtedly change with time. Worms like l10n and Top Ramen only worked because the systems were insecure to begin with. An insecure ftpd/rstatd was used to automatically gain access to machines, and use them as further launching grounds. Viruses do exist for Linux, but are probably the least significant threat you face. On the other hand, Linux is definitely vulnerable to trojans. A trojan is a malicious program that masquerades as a legitimate application. Unlike viruses, they do not self replicate, but instead, their primary purpose is (usually) to allow an attacker remote access to your computer or its resources. Sometimes, users can be tricked into downloading and installing trojans onto their own computers, but more commonly, trojans are installed by an intruder to allow him future access to your box. Trojans often come packaged as "root kits". A "root kit" is a set of trojaned system applications to help mask a compromise. A root kit will usually include trojaned versions of ps, getty, passwd, At this point in time, virus Scanners for Linux are aimed at detecting and disinfecting data served to Windows hosts by a Linux file/mailserver. This can be useful to help stop the spread of viruses among local, non-Unix machines. Due to the lack of viruses for Linux, there are presently no scanners to detect viruses within the Linux OS, or its applications. Trojans present a greater threat to the Linux OS itself than do viruses, and can be detected by regularly verifying the integrity of your binaries, or by using a rootkitdetector. Trojan Detectors: Chkrootkit: (http://www.chkrootkit.org/) - Checks Linux system for evidence of having been rootkitted. Root Kit Detector: (http://www.vancouver-webpages.com/rkdet/) - A daemon that alerts you if someone atttempts to rootkit you. Virus Scanners for Linux File Servers: AMaViS: (http://www.amavis.org/amavis.html) - A sendmail plugin that scans incoming mmail for viruses. AntiVir for Linux: (http://www.hbedv.com/) - Scans incoming mail and ftp for virusess. Interscan Viruswall: (http://www.antivirus.com/products/isvw/) - A Firewall-1 add-on that scans ftp, htttp, and smtp for viruses. Sophos AntiVirus: (http://www.sophos.com/products/antivirus/savunix.html) - Checks shares, mail attachments, ftp, etc. for viruses. Finally, a system administrator must understand that security is a process. You need to keep yourself up to date with all the latest security news. Subscribe to the securityfocus, cert, and other security related mailing lists. Stick to the comp.os.linux.security newsgroup. That's also a good place to post your queries - if they haven't already been answered. Monitor your log files regularly. Use remote logging to protect against modified log files. Protect your system binaries. Keep them on read-only partitions if required. The only way to protect yourself completely, is to be aware of what is happening all the time. References: The comp.os.linux.security faq The linux security howto (http://www.linuxsecurity.com/docs/Security-HOWTO/) The linux administrator's security guide (http://www.seifried.org/lasg/) The linux firewall and proxy server howto (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Firewall-HOWTO.html) CERT advisories (http://www.cert.org/) Security Focus (http://www.securityfocus.com/) -- Save yourself! Reboot in 5 seconds! 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[OT] gnu@db.ilug-bom.org.in - Mail bounced back
by Amish Mehta 04 Nov '01

04 Nov '01

Hi, Somebody(Nagarjuna?) please check out. It was regarding Cyberoam authentication client. Probably $w macro problem. Missing Cw or Fw entry. ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 553 5.3.5 db.ilug-bom.org.in. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) 554 5.3.5 <gnu(a)db.ilug-bom.org.in>... Local configuration error Amish.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] cyberoam client?
by Amish Mehta 04 Nov '01

04 Nov '01

Hi, Nagarjuna G. wrote: > >On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Amish Mehta wrote: >->I could not upload files to Sourceforge because of some reason. >-> Okay I have released a tar.gz file on sourceforge. > > Amish, if you want to upload on our own space( > db.ilug-bom.org.in) send the files to gnu(a)db.ilug-bom.org.in. > If you want a project page we can provide one. Okay thanks Nagarjuna, I have done this too. Amish.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] cyberoam client?
by Amish Mehta 04 Nov '01

04 Nov '01

Hi Chandrashekhar, Please goto http://briefcase.yahoo.com/amishmm and search there. I could not upload files to Sourceforge because of some reason. Amish.

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Anyone have staroffice 6.0 beta
by Anand 04 Nov '01

04 Nov '01

Hi, Does anyone have staroffice 6.0 beta, which can be burnt and used by me. Anand -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit www.smbd.org <http://www.smbd.org> for Free Tutorials, Source Codes and Other stuff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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iptables error
by Satpal Ramgadia 04 Nov '01

04 Nov '01

Hiee i installed iptables but when ever i restarts the machine i getting errors -A command not found -A command not found -A command not found for each rule i set it shows command not found what is this i couldnt understand i think it couldnt find out the path i stored iptables in /etc/sysconfig n removed ipchains from there so it will take iptables from there n will load but failed to load is the path wrong if the path is wrong where n how to give the path of iptables to load every time machine starts Thanx Satpal please help me out of this prob Satpal __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com

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[Hurd Orientation]
by Pankaj Jangid 04 Nov '01

04 Nov '01

I recently joined a hurd mailing list. I received this mail in a that list. I want it to share with you. It is a good small introduction to HURD OS. Welcome to the Hurd =================== Welcome to the Hurd. This email is automatically sent at the begining of each month to the help-hurd(a)gnu.org and debian-hurd(a)lists.debian.org mailing lists. This message is intended for a quick orientation to new users. What is the Hurd? ----------------- The Hurd is GNU's Multiserver Microkernel operating system. It is designed with the intention of fixing many of the flaws in *nix. What are these flaws? The arbitrary limits that it imposes on the user: there is not a whole lot that a user can do without special privileges. Consider an NFS filesystem. Only root can mount this on a traditional *nix system. Why is this? It is not that NFS accesses anything dangerous, at least, it is no more dangerous than ftp. However, as a portion of the NFS code lives in the kernel, this presents a potential security problem. In the Hurd, a user can transparently mount a NFS filesystem directly into their home directory without affecting the security of the system as a whole. And this is only the tip of the iceberg. Getting Started --------------- Installation Guides can be found at the following locations: http://web.walfield.org/papers/hurd-installation-guide/ You can find out about ISO images at: http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-cd They come with a modified version of the Debian boot floppies making installation relatively simple. GNU Mach uses the drivers found in the Linux 2.0.x kernel. Note, there is no support for PCMCIA. Here is a HCL: http://www.urbanophile.com/arenn/hacking/hurd/hurd-hardware.html Mailing Lists: - bug-hurd(a)gnu.org: Hurd and Mach development. - help-hurd(a)gnu.org: General Hurd questions. - web-hurd(a)gnu.org: Maintenance of the hurd webpages at http://hurd.gnu.org. - debian-hurd(a)lists.debian.org: All things related to Debian GNU/Hurd (especially porting issues). Subscribe in the usual fashion. The Hurd FAQ: http://web.walfield.org/papers/hurd-faq/ Contributions ------------- A common question is: how can I contribute? There are many tasks that need to be done: - Help update the web pages at hurd.gnu.org. Contact web-hurd(a)gnu.org. - Write documentation. - Port applications. Contact debian-hurd(a)lists.debian.org. Look at http://people.debian.org/~jbailey/turtle/group/Debian/index.html - Write code. Contact bug-hurd(a)gnu.org. Look at: http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-devel-tasks, <hurd>/tasks and <hurd>/TODO - Send feedback. This is, of course, the most important task of all: Help us help others. Happy Hacking. -- Pankaj Jangid National Centre for Software Technology Alt-Email-ID : pankaj(a)ncst.ernet.in Yahoo-msnger : pankaj_jangid GPG Public Key : http://ashoka.ncst.ernet.in/~pankaj/gpg.txt

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[Commercial] Computer Books for Sale.
by akshaysalkar 04 Nov '01

04 Nov '01

Does any 1 want Computer/Linux Books at a reasonable rate (ie.20%-22%off the normal price) Books in good condition. (Costs after Discount) 1) CGI Programming with Perl - Gundavaran - Rs. 250 - O'Rielly 2) Programming Perl 3/e - Larry Wall - Rs. 450 - O'Rielly 3) Data Structures using C & C++ - Rs. 150 - Prentice Hall 4) Teach yourself HTML4 in 24 hours - Rs. 100 - Techmedia 5) Mastering Foxpro 2.5 Special Edition - Rs. 200 - BPB 6) Begining Linux Programming - Mathews - Rs.450 - Wrox 7) Teach yourself Shell Programming in 24 hours - Veeraghavan - Rs.125 - Techmedia 8) Building Linux Clusters - David Spector - Rs.250 - O'Rielly any wanting any of the above books plz. contact me at email : akshaysalkar(a)indiatimes.com akshay. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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questions
by abhijeet 03 Nov '01

03 Nov '01

hi this is on the ongoin' topic of content quality on the list. here is a link - perhaps known to many - which would help. this howto would help people to ask questions and perhaps articulate Philip's thoughts on the subject better.......- no offence meant...Philip's a good writer- i found it on eric raymond's home page. http://hurkle.thyrsus.com/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ciao abhijeet

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XWinX
by Philip S Tellis 03 Nov '01

03 Nov '01

has anyone tried XwinX? It's similar to VNC, except, it gets rid of the VNC Client - VNC Server link. GPLed software. Runs on windows, to export the desktop to an X11 server. http://www.xwinx.org/ really good Philip -- Help fight continental drift. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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How to install iptables?
by Satpal Ramgadia 03 Nov '01

03 Nov '01

Hiee all, I need to install iptables in RedHat Linux 7.1 What i did in server 7.1 : i installed iptables by passing command "rmmod ipchains" - unloading ipchains "lsmod" - verified unloaded ipchains "modprobe ip_tables" - probed iptables "modprobe iptable_mangle" "modprobe iptable_nat" "modprobe iptable_filter" "modprobe ip_conntrack" after this i can set firewall for that session but when ever i restarts the machine it never saves the iptables in lodules list if i typed : lsmod it shows me again blank no iptables loaded in list so i need iptable permanently iptables in module list can u please help me out of this prob right now i m with ipchains Thanx Satpal __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com

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Re: pppd error no. 17
by Parul Mathur 03 Nov '01

03 Nov '01

Hi, I think a lot of people will be interested if somebody can post the script he/she is using for authentication in case of a dial up connection (along with instructions on how to modify it, of course). Philip had mentioned that he knew of an easier way. Philip, do let us know... Thanks. Parul Mathur

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[::.Link.::] How Linux saved Amazon millions
by Navin Dhanuka 02 Nov '01

02 Nov '01

How Linux saved Amazon millions Online retailer Amazon.com saved millions of dollars from its technology costs last quarter by switching to the Linux operating system, a disclosure that could provide some guidance for other companies seeking to cut expenses in a stagnant economy. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-7720536.html?tag=mn_hd Navin Dhanuka _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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M$-Linux equivalents
by Rajiv 02 Nov '01

02 Nov '01

Does anyone know of a link/info where one can get a comparative list of all M$ Viewers/Sound/Music what-have-yous and their Linux equivalents? TIA Rajiv -- _/_____\_ \ ~ ~ / ( @ @ ) ----oOOo-(_)-oOOo---- RAJIV S BANERJI RED HAT INDIA [Bombay] O:00-91-22-2856182/3452 "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. " - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965) -------------Oooo.--- .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_)

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Linux Transaction & Security Server
by vinodbhaskar＠sify.com 02 Nov '01

02 Nov '01

Hi friends, I am using Linux Mandrake 8.0 in my office and we are developing our own b2b application in MySQL and PHP. Now we require Transaction Server and Security Server for Linux. Please suggest me where I can get these software. Regards, Vinod ------------------------------------------------- This mail helped a tree grow. Know more at http://green.sify.com Want to win a PC or Palm Tops or Digital Diaries or T-Shirts? Click here http://promos.sify.com/niit/main.asp?mail

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[Commercial] Computer Books for Sale
by akshaysalkar 02 Nov '01

02 Nov '01

Does any 1 want Computer/Linux Books at a reasonable rate (ie.20%-22%off the normal price) Books in good condition. (Costs after Discount) 1) CGI Programming with Perl - Gundavaran - Rs. 250 - O'Rielly 2) Programming Perl 3/e - Larry Wall - Rs. 450 - O'Rielly 3) Data Structures using C & C++ - Rs. 150 - Prentice Hall 4) Teach yourself HTML4 in 24 hours - Rs. 100 - Techmedia 5) Mastering Foxpro 2.5 Special Edition - Rs. 200 - BPB 6) Begining Linux Programming - Mathews - Rs.450 - Wrox 7) Teach yourself Shell Programming in 24 hours - Veeraghavan - Rs.125 - Techmedia 8) Building Linux Clusters - David Spector - Rs.250 - O'Rielly any wanting any of the above books plz. contact me at email : akshaysalkar(a)indiatimes.com akshay. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in

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boot image error
by Mahesh Gharat 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

I have compiled and added new boot image to the lilo. But on loading it is giving the follwing error. Loading : newimage Error : 0x40 boot : newimage What might be the problem? Thanks in Advance. Mahesh Gharat

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Shell Scripting
by Desai Ashish 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

Dear Luggers, Any one of you having Idea that How to prepare a Shell Script in Linux..? Is it Like a Batch file of DOS..? Plz . suggest me some Step by Step method that how to prepare a Shell Script aling wiht some good URLs for Shell Scripting. [Ashish] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com

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Subject wise sorting and subscription
by Anand 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

We could request senders to send subject wise mails. Users can subscribe to the selected subjects. Subjects can be Installation issues Hardware Problems Upgrade News WEB Server Mail Server Networking SAMBA Browser Email Firewall NEWBIE/Linux Toddler and so on........ Users will send mails with subject as say Browser: Unable to read XML pages Users should be able to specify the subjects that they are interested in and get the mails for those subjects. Thus the issues will get better response. Meanwhile, I believe that we should form a committee of interested personnel and get to the issue of properly sorting and analyzing the data that we have, and making better use of that DB. Anand -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit www.smbd.org <http://www.smbd.org> for Free Tutorials, Source Codes and Other stuff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Shell Scripting
by Nikhil Karkera 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 Desai Ashish wrote : > Any one of you having Idea that How to prepare a Shell > Script in Linux..? Is it Like a Batch file of DOS..? > Plz . suggest me some Step by Step method that how to > prepare a Shell Script aling wiht some good URLs for > Shell Scripting. Unix Shell Programming - Yashwant Kanetkar. Also good for people new to Unix commands. Regards, Nikhil.

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Unsubscribe 4getn0t
by Vinod Ramanathan 01 Nov '01

01 Nov '01

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The Newbie's Guide to Linux
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 30 Oct '01

30 Oct '01

Hi, I have uploaded a document called "Newbie's Guide to Linux" that I had tried to write long ago and left unfinished. It can be accessed at: http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/NGL/ Please read this for more info on what the document is all about: http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/NGL/about.html#INTRO I would like to ask for help from people to develop the NGL further ... I will make the SGML sources available very soon, so that people can have a look around and decide how they would like to contribute to it. I have been using Docbook to create the NGL, and converting into HTML using sgmltools package. SameerDS. ===== -- MTech Student Reconfigurable Computing Lab KReSIT, IIT-Bombay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com

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[Announce] RH 7.2 ISOs and files
by Ravindra Jaju 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

Hi. Redhat 7.2 ISOs (and files) are available on db.ilu-bom.org.in The URL is http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/redhat/ You can download the ISO, burn and use, or get individual packages you wish to upgrade and install them. There might be some changes in the directory structure over time, but that shouldn't really be a problem. A nice web-interface is also being worked upon. cheers! -- jaju

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Forking of list issue
by Anand 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

> > hello, Several Lists that I am subscribed to send individual mails with the subjects from the different members. This helps the reader in looking at the subject and not wasting time on irrelevant mails. Anand -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit www.smbd.org <http://www.smbd.org> for Free Tutorials, Source Codes and Other stuff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] db.ilug-bom.org.in
by nici bhatt 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

hi well no probs we can carry on but we have to decide which is best possible way and easy way for this. aprat from how-to's and faq we need to have day-to-day problem which are faced by our mailing list user and there solution which they have got from this mailing list this will help our mailing list to improve it's purpose aprat from this we can have list of applcation which are devloped and late braking news so wht do you think? is this ok. Nici >From: "Nagarjuna G." <nagarjun(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] db.ilug-bom.org.in >Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 16:39:02 +0530 (IST) > >On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe wrote: > >->--- "Nagarjuna G." <nagarjun(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in> wrote: >->> I have created and started uploading useful resources for GNU/Linux. >->> The URL is: http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/ >->> >->> I also need volunteers to maintain this site. Also give me >->> suggestions regarding the use of this area. If you have any material >->> that you wish to upload, let me know. >-> >->I volunteer! >-> >->What I really ache for is an Indian mirror for Debian, esp unstable. > >Very good! I got four volunteers. Sameer and Jaju are both in IIT, >so coordiation will be easy. Navin and Nici Bhatt have also >volunteered. I suggest that Sameer and Jaju take care of downloading >the stuff, using preferably rsync or wget or some such mirroring >software, and Navin and Nici Bhatt take care of providing a web >interphase for the resources. Is this OK? > >I have already kept potato R3, three disks in the area. i have not >yet started uploading woody. I will issue the command today, and may >be in few days the stuff should be there. > >Apart from LDP, what other things should we have here. > >Nagarjuna > > >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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[tech] [info] Linux module loader
by Philip S Tellis 29 Oct '01

29 Oct '01

<preamble> This lecture was first given at the MCA day at VJTI, and then repeated along with a demonstration of the proc filesystem at the Linux workshop at VJTI Note: This has to be read along with the following files: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ kmod.txt modules.txt man modprobe man insmod man lsmod man kerneld man ksyms I'd also suggest reading Linux Device Drivers, 2nd Edition http://www.xml.com/ldd/chapter/book/index.html </preamble> Monolithic kernels and Microkernels - Linux was based on Minix - Minix has a microkernel, but it doesn't do it very well - Linux has a monolithic kernel - Linux was written because Linus wanted to learn how his 386 works What's the difference? Monolithic - the whole kernel is a single a.out file - the whole kernel is loaded into memory - all communication within the kernel is through in process data structures Microkernel - most of the OS is outside the kernel - services communicate via message passing - the kernel implements this message passing - the kernel also implements interrupt handling, low-level process management, and possibly IO. Linux is obsolete - AST OS Researchers have generally settled on the fact that microkernels are better. This was decided back in the mid to late eighties. So, is linux obsolete? Modules - No one really knows who came up with the idea - It was first implemented in the 0.99 kernel series - insmod, rmmod, modprobe and kerneld How does it work? - All modules are not linked into the kernel at build time - Slots that have been marked as modules are left empty - These slots are actually linked to an internal function called request_module() What happens if a module is needed? The kerneld way: - The kernel notices that a feature is requested that is not resident in the kernel. - The kernel sends a message to kerneld, with a symbolic description of the requested feature. - The kerneld daemon asks e.g. modprobe to load a module that fits this symbolic description. - modprobe looks into its internal "alias" translation table to see if there is a match. This table can be reconfigured and expanded by having "alias" lines in "/etc/modules.conf". - insmod is then asked to insert the module(s) that modprobe has decided that the kernel needs. Every module will be configured according to the "options" lines in "/etc/modules.conf". - modprobe exits and kerneld tells the kernel that the request succeeded (or failed...) - The kernel uses the freshly installed feature just as if it had been configured into the kernel as a "resident" part. modprobe, insmod, kerneld? What are these things? - kerneld is just another daemon. - runs in the background, communicates with the kernel through Sys V IPC - loads modules when required, unloads them after (usually) 1 minute of no use - insmod links a loadable module into a running kernel - it must resolve symbols from the kernel's exported symbol table - modprobe is a wrapper for insmod - it checks modules for dependencies listed in modules.dep - it checks its alias file - it loads all matching modules, and their support modules But that's not the way it's done anymore - As of 2.1.90-pre1, kerneld has been replaced by kmod - kmod is a kernel thread, not a user space daemon - kmod doesn't do everything that kerneld did B-b-but why? - in the end, modprobe is called, so why have an extra user space process? - kerneld used Sys V IPC to communicate with kernel - doesn't use unix domain sockets for logging - code size of ipc/msg.c decreased by 40% So what does kmod do? - has a replacement for request_module() - runs as a separate kernel thread called kmod - when a module is requested, kmod wakes up and execve()s modprobe And what must I do? - kmod needs to know where it can find modprobe - echo "/sbin/modprobe" > /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe - or use sysctl - of course, you could put this in your startup scripts and forget about it - you also need to manually unload unused modules... but that's what cron is for So.... - the modular kernel doesn't use up as much memory as traditional monolithic kernels - kernel modules can be updated without recompiling the kernel - your kernel can be really small - Linux is not obsolte, on the contrary, we can all look forward to version 3.0 -- Scully: I'm seeing a whole new side of you, Mulder. MulderEddie: Is that a good thing? Scully: I like it. "The X-Files: Small Potatoes" Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] db.ilug-bom.org.in: will it be used?
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 28 Oct '01

28 Oct '01

Philip wrote: >To break my stand, I vote in favour of a fork. Me too, for lack of a better option ... Two things I would like to point out: As Jaju had remarked to me, been a long time since somebody actually started a good thread on something that they were using/recently discovered that made me sit up and hit the docs. Like Philip pointed out in his mail, people answering newbie questions should try their best of making them read the docs rather than just answering questions. SameerDS. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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[OT]
by Sandeep Periwal 28 Oct '01

28 Oct '01

Hey, Does anyone know of sites which has some info about.. ++>Acceptace of Linux by big time corporates ++>OS level migration by cos ++>the future of linux.. in years to come by some publicly known org. I am preparing a small paper on Linux ... "Linux :Past, Present & Future." Any & all Inputs, Pointers etc are warmly welcome. --Sandeep __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com

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[OT]
by Sandeep Periwal 28 Oct '01

28 Oct '01

Hey, Does anyone know of sites which has some info about.. ++>Acceptace of Linux by big time corporates ++>OS level migration by cos ++>the future of linux.. in years to come by some publicly known org. I am preparing a small paper on Linux ... "Linux :Past, Present & Future." Any & all Inputs, Pointers etc are warmly welcome. --Sandeep __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com

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Re: pppd error no. 17
by Parul Mathur 28 Oct '01

28 Oct '01

On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 Kinjal Sonpal wrote: >Btw, for allowing all the users on my home PC system, chmoded >/dev/modem to 777. Is this okay or is there some better >>workaround? I did this becoz I read somewhere in our mail >archives that one shud not dial-up as root for the sake of >security reasons. PCQ has the following advice: (Do all this as root.) Step 1: Add a group called 'dialout'. Step 2: Add the required user accounts to this group. Step 3: Type the following commands: $ chown root.dialout /usr/sbin/kppp $ chmod 4750 /usr/sbin/kppp Step 4: Create a file /etc/kppp.allow and type the user names of users who are in the dialout group, each user name on a separate line. The users should run /usr/sbin/kppp rather than /usr/bin/kppp. (This is assuming you have a typical Red Hat installation in which /usr/bin/kppp is a symbolic link to /usr/bin/consolehelper and the actual binary is /usr/sbin/kppp.)

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Pop3
by shahazad＠linuxplanet.nu 28 Oct '01

28 Oct '01

hi, i wanted to know that where could i get a service provider wherein i would be able to check my POP3 & reply through the same mail id via a browser. i know about mail2web.com but mail2web ads a advertising line below .. also through that i cant configure to put my name on the outgoing mail instead my name & mail id is the same at mail2web.com so plz let me know about other service providers such as that wherein it would allow me to configure my Pop3 in the above way. cheers~ </shahazad> -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su

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Test Message
by Nagarjuna G. 27 Oct '01

27 Oct '01

Test Message, please ignore Nagarjuna

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Simulating Socket errors
by Shahed A Moolji 27 Oct '01

27 Oct '01

Hi, Are there any linux commands to close a socket conenction between 2 processes ? eg, I can use the ipcsrm command to clear shared memory etc. Is there anything like that for sockets. Here is What I want to do :- I have a TCP Server and a Client. I want to simulate a "Connection reset by peer condition" on the client side. I do not have access to the Server Software. In my client software, I am doing a block wait on a select(). Under certain circumstances, due to network problems, the connection is reset, but the select() does not return any errors. i.e It is still blocked. Is there any way I can simulate this ? I have tried using the shutdown() api call from within my program to close socket communication, but that causes the select to return. I also thought of pulling the network cable on the client machine, but I dont think that will simulate the error that I want. Thanks Shahed.

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Re: bd.ilug-bom.. will it be used?
by Anand 27 Oct '01

27 Oct '01

Hello Philip, What you say is true, People do not seem to be taking the time to research the site, but just pop up questions hoping that their invaluable time is saved by others spending their invaluable time in answering the original mail. I believe it is the " You have to help me " Syndrome. People believe that the problem they have is unique in some way and that there are others who are there to help them, rather are obliged to help them. They may be ready to pay for it. A small price may be nothing. We can put up a compilation of the different problems that were solved by LUG mails and a set of CD's could be made available for sale at writing price plus a small margin for people who put up all the effort. We can also incorporate useful tips and hints from advanced users. A part of the profits can also be used to finance future LUG activities. In the future, if the problems asked are repetitive, then only reference to the CD can be made. Anand -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit www.smbd.org <http://www.smbd.org> for Free Tutorials, Source Codes and Other stuff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] TROWSERS
by Nikhil D. Kikkeri 27 Oct '01

27 Oct '01

hmm seems interesting, my University here in Dallas has many people working on various WWW technologies.something like this might perhaps draw their attention.i will see what i can do. ram ram nikhil ----------------- Nikhil D. Kikkeri 2949 Apartment 32 Binkley Avenue Dallas TX 75205 214-369-5894 Also at ------- nikhil(a)engr.smu.edu idlidosalover(a)hotmail.com nikhil_k(a)flashmail.com Website ------- http://www.engr.smu.edu/~nikhil >From: Anand <akiyer(a)vsnl.com> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >Subject: [ILUG-BOM] TROWSERS >Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:34:09 +0530 > >TROWSERS: Translating Browsers > >Thanks for replies. the complete reply by Philip tellis was very >informative. >Thanks Philip and Sumant Martin is also partially right because he >understands the enormity of the tasks. > >Well The present working of the web requires that there be several >pages, one in french, one in english and one in Hindi and so on. > >By having langcodes, we can have a singular web page. >The problem is that not all languages are like Sanskrit, which I believe >has been researched by Germans to be the most suitable language for >computer communications. Literature may be the most difficult to translate. >But company reports, simple communication can be codified. >I am again not talking about codification in five languages but in >thousands of languages so the task is that enormous. > >I am planning to start an organization for implementing this. I am sure >that we are doing things in a different way now, but the web has always >been a place of surprise twists and turns in strategy. Linux being one >of the most popular ones. > >I failed to benefit for my work done on GIMP, but I do not want to see >similar things for others and so >The work will be part financed by me and am also looking for other >partners and also hard code browser programmers. > >The idea requires good understanding of browser programming, list >management and so on. Translators would also be required, but that can >at present be left to me. > >Interested candidates of the list can apply for knowing how to >contribute and how to benefit out of it. > >If we are able to translate 5000 common phrases in phase 1 we can reduce >web traffic by at least 20 % and at the same time have multitudes >reading the web pages. Second phase can see the target go up to fifty >thousand phrases. > >Anand >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Visit www.smbd.org <http://www.smbd.org> for >Free Tutorials, Source Codes and Other stuff. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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no mail for 2 days
by Anand 27 Oct '01

27 Oct '01

Is there a problem, i have not recieved the regular Linuxers mail for the last two days. Anand -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit www.smbd.org <http://www.smbd.org> for Free Tutorials, Source Codes and Other stuff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Testing
by Nagarjuna G. 27 Oct '01

27 Oct '01

A test mail, please ignore Nagarjuna

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db.ilug-bom.org.in
by Nagarjuna G. 23 Oct '01

23 Oct '01

Dear Linuxers I have created and started uploading useful resources for GNU/Linux. The URL is: http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/ I also need volunteers to maintain this site. Also give me suggestions regarding the use of this area. If you have any material that you wish to upload, let me know. Nagarjuna

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Re: Linuxers digest, Vol 1 #239 - 3 msgs
by Anand 23 Oct '01

23 Oct '01

> > > Re: HMI: Making the Browser SCADA Multilingual (Philip S Tellis) > You're reinventing the wheel man. These things already exist. There are already 2_2 language codes for all languages, and html has a lang attribute for all tags. So, your html would be something like this: <html lang="en"> ..... <p lang="en">... <p lang="fr">... and so on. Alternately, servers could have content negotiation, based on the Accept-language: header sent by the browser. I won't go into this now. the 2_2 codes are of the format: two letter code for language, optional underscore and two letter code for dialect. en -> english en_US -> us english en_GB -> brit english pt -> portuguese pt_BR -> brazilian portuguese you get the idea I hope. I don't recall where you can get the full list of language codes, but it's out there somewhere. All you have to do, is get your browser to support it. AFAIK, all other browsers already support it. Philip Hello, Thanks for the reply, But I believe that the language code as on date only signifies the character presentations. In case i type "How are you" and the user has a devanagari operating system, it helps in him seeing it as "How are you" But by langcodes, when i type "How are you", the code is passed to the user and he sees it as "AAp kaise hain" in devanagari script. In other words, the entire text gets translated in phrases. Similarly when he types, "main acha hoon", the english initiator of the message sees it as "I am well". I don't think, this can be in any way reinventing the wheel. But such a scheme will facilitate communications in the internet without any language barriers. You can put up your website in english and a chinese person who only knows chinese or an arab who only knows arabic or a Indian who only knows hindi or gujarathi or marathi, can see the contents in his native language. Anand > > >

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TROWSERS
by Anand 23 Oct '01

23 Oct '01

TROWSERS: Translating Browsers Thanks for replies. the complete reply by Philip tellis was very informative. Thanks Philip and Sumant Martin is also partially right because he understands the enormity of the tasks. Well The present working of the web requires that there be several pages, one in french, one in english and one in Hindi and so on. By having langcodes, we can have a singular web page. The problem is that not all languages are like Sanskrit, which I believe has been researched by Germans to be the most suitable language for computer communications. Literature may be the most difficult to translate. But company reports, simple communication can be codified. I am again not talking about codification in five languages but in thousands of languages so the task is that enormous. I am planning to start an organization for implementing this. I am sure that we are doing things in a different way now, but the web has always been a place of surprise twists and turns in strategy. Linux being one of the most popular ones. I failed to benefit for my work done on GIMP, but I do not want to see similar things for others and so The work will be part financed by me and am also looking for other partners and also hard code browser programmers. The idea requires good understanding of browser programming, list management and so on. Translators would also be required, but that can at present be left to me. Interested candidates of the list can apply for knowing how to contribute and how to benefit out of it. If we are able to translate 5000 common phrases in phase 1 we can reduce web traffic by at least 20 % and at the same time have multitudes reading the web pages. Second phase can see the target go up to fifty thousand phrases. Anand -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit www.smbd.org <http://www.smbd.org> for Free Tutorials, Source Codes and Other stuff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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HMI: Making the Browser SCADA Multilingual
by Anand 23 Oct '01

23 Oct '01

Hello Fellow listers, I have been thinking of making the tiny browser SCADA put up at www.smbd.org <http://www.smbd.org> multilingual, and here is the reason why: I have been planning to migrate to Canada and though the procedure is in the initial stages, I decided to learn french. Then I met an Indian at a railway station and he, looking at my french books, well, we started chatting and he informed me that in the french regions of Canada, you need to know french! I recalled similar things happening in the past in India. I once even wrote a operations manual in Marathi! Now what if say in a control room, there is a french person and un anglais! or suppose a giant corporation like shell or chevron wanted to integrate the SCADA or systems working across the globe and ensure some sort of interoperability from across the globe! Then either the entire globe has to become anglais which again is problematic. the Hindis will stick to hindi, the Arabs to arabic and french to french, japanese to japanese and chinese to chinese and so on. We need a system such that the interpretation in the various languages is automatic. I believe that having a new tags in HTML will greatly help in having multilingual support. The new tag <langcode> will give a twelve digit alphanumeric code. It will be closed by </langcode> When there is no equivalent <nolangcode alt="123456789abc" native="french"> which will mean that there is no langcode for this text. the nearest equivalent code is given and the native language or the language in which the text which has no langcode was written. this can be closed by </nolangcode> numbers inside the texts could be written by <langnumber> closed by </langnumber> Say the alarm tag is "Converter Temperature High 175.25". In french it may be "Temperature du converter haut (or grand) 175,25" {Note that since i could not get the accent signs in My linux m/c, the text is basically incorrect in french, but does convey the message} And somewhat different in German, spanish, Arabic, Hindi, Marathi and the thousands of languages across the globe. Now suppose the server or WEB PLC gives a message indicating the langcode say for example <langcode> abc123456789 <langnumber>175.25</langnumber></langcode> The browser could have the related messages for the codes stored in the language used in the particular PC and the message could be displayed in the relevant language. Detailed explaination of the working: A standards committee like say the W3C makes the langcodes. The body establishes a comprehensive list of codes for common sentences in every language. The table has the following columns: A langcode column as a primary key, The language which represents the exact meaning for this langcode, The languages columns which store the meaning for the langcode in that language, like englist(us), english(uk),french, german, hindi,arabic, persian and so on. the browser stores the langcode in the machine. The webtraffic is limited to transmitting langcodes. The browser interpretes the langcode in the native language. The user sees the text in users own native language. There are of course limitations that not every phrase could be covered, but such messages can be written with code <nolangcode alt="abc213456789" native="english"> No bhai there is no anglais code for this</langcode> Where the user sees the message in english "No bhai there is no anglais code for this" followed by "nearest Equivalent: There is no English equivalent" in native language. The browser now has to play a critical role, of converting whatever the user types to equivalent codes for transmitting. And on reciept to reconvert the messages back to text. Anand -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit www.smbd.org <http://www.smbd.org> for Free Tutorials, Source Codes and Other stuff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] TROWSERS
by Darshan.Wakchaure＠lntinfotech.com 23 Oct '01

23 Oct '01

Hi, Thats a very good thought about TROWSERS. I certainly can put my small share for this purpose since presently I'm involved in the making of a Microbrowser(for Hand-held Devices). At present i am looking after the data structure part of CSS Rules and later rendering each element with this data. Good Day... Darshan Anand <akiyer(a)vsnl.com> Sent by: To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug- cc: bom.org.in Subject: [ILUG-BOM] TROWSERS 10/23/2001 03:34 PM Please respond to linuxers TROWSERS: Translating Browsers Thanks for replies. the complete reply by Philip tellis was very informative. Thanks Philip and Sumant Martin is also partially right because he understands the enormity of the tasks. Well The present working of the web requires that there be several pages, one in french, one in english and one in Hindi and so on. By having langcodes, we can have a singular web page. The problem is that not all languages are like Sanskrit, which I believe has been researched by Germans to be the most suitable language for computer communications. Literature may be the most difficult to translate. But company reports, simple communication can be codified. I am again not talking about codification in five languages but in thousands of languages so the task is that enormous. I am planning to start an organization for implementing this. I am sure that we are doing things in a different way now, but the web has always been a place of surprise twists and turns in strategy. Linux being one of the most popular ones. I failed to benefit for my work done on GIMP, but I do not want to see similar things for others and so The work will be part financed by me and am also looking for other partners and also hard code browser programmers. The idea requires good understanding of browser programming, list management and so on. Translators would also be required, but that can at present be left to me. Interested candidates of the list can apply for knowing how to contribute and how to benefit out of it. If we are able to translate 5000 common phrases in phase 1 we can reduce web traffic by at least 20 % and at the same time have multitudes reading the web pages. Second phase can see the target go up to fifty thousand phrases. Anand -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit www.smbd.org <http://www.smbd.org> for Free Tutorials, Source Codes and Other stuff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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pppd error no. 17
by Parul Mathur 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

I have a Motorola SM56 PCI Fax Modem (internal). I am using the driver given in the PCQLinux 7.1 distro (sm56-85.1-10.i386.rpm). I have checked that the modem is working properly. I configured kppp as per the instructions given in the PCQ August issue (Pg 112, 113). The only ambiguous instruction was regarding the type of authentication used by the ISP. The options offered are PAP, CHAP, script-based and terminal-based. My ISP is VSNL and I don't have a clue what it requires so I chose terminal-based. kppp dialed into the VSNL server successfully but after a few seconds pppd died because of this error: "Error 17: The PPP negotiation failed because serial loopback was detected." What is serial loopback? What can I do to avoid this error? Thanks. Parul

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[OT] Heterogenous FireWall Proxy Server
by Mayur Joshi 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

Dear Lugers, What are heterogenous firewall proxy servers? For that matter does heterogenous network environment has a fixed definition? Does a network interconnected with Linux, Windows, etc make a heterogenous network environment? In this scenario a firewall proxy server is called heterogenous firewall proxy server, I want some insight into this. Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] cascading with squid
by acharya＠dacafe.com 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

hi, I mean all the http traffic from clients to squid proxy should be diverted to antother windows based proxy _____________________________________________________________

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] cascading with squid
by acharya＠dacafe.com 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

hi, I am using Squid as my http proxy,I Want all the http traffic coming from squid should be diverted to another proxy running on my windows system, so how can I do this any settings should be made to squid.conf ? _____________________________________________________________

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Configuring Send Mail
by Aavishkar Software 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

Good Morning everybody, Can any one explain on configuration of sendmail or how to use sendmail Thanks in advance, abh _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Riva TNT AGP & Creative Vibra Compatibilty in Linux
by shailesh bhate 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

>> Cyberblade). As such, I believe the TNT Riva is well >> supported on Linux - however, to make sure, why don't > > I have one and works quite well. It is an NVidia Riva >TNT2 with 32 MB ram. I have NVidia Riva TNT2 AGP card with 32MB VRAM and a Creative Vibra 128. I installed PCQLinux 7.1 on my m/c with absolutely no problems whatsoever. Never tried games like Quake III, though! Regards, Shailesh. rm -rf /bin/laden

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cascading with squid
by acharya＠dacafe.com 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

hi, I want to cascade squid with my ms-windows based proxy how can i do that ,any settings should be made to squid.conf ? _____________________________________________________________

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Installation problem of PCQLinux 7.01
by Abhijit Tatake 21 Oct '01

21 Oct '01

Hello, How to install PCQLinux 7.01 on extended partition ? My current system configuration is Win98 system with 10.2 GB HDD It has extended partition drive E: . Now to the point, How to create Linux-native partitions on this drive E: I have tried partitionless installation but didn't worked. Thanks in advance Abh ____________________________________________________________ *NEW* Connect to Yahoo! Messenger through your mobile phone *NEW* Visit http://in.mobile.yahoo.com/smsmgr_signin.html

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Linux Distributions.
by Abhishek Gupta 21 Oct '01

21 Oct '01

hi there, Could anyone of you burn me Redhat 7.1 the full distribution as i need it desperately for my course work and boy buying the distribution is really hard on the pocket, so i wud be grateful if anyone... thanks, Abhishek Gupta.

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Riva TNT AGP & Creative Vibra Compatibilty in Linux
by Kinjal Sonpal 21 Oct '01

21 Oct '01

Hi all, I'm planning to purchase an AGP and a sound card for my home PC. My vendor has offered me Riva TNT AGP with 16/32 mb VRAM and Creative Vibra Sound Card. The other option is an AGP from Trident. However, the performance is not as good as that of Riva. I just wanted to make sure their compatibility with Linux. If someone has any good/bad experience with the above mentioned h/w in Linux, then plz let me know. Thanks a lot in advance. Warm Regs, Kinjal Sonpal

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Kernel Compilation Problems
by Mayur Joshi 20 Oct '01

20 Oct '01

>Did you save settings when exiting from make menuconfig? Yes I did save it. But anyways, the kernel compiled well finally. Instead of make menuconfig, I chose make config and then it worked well. I guess when I used make menuconfig, the settings probably might have not saved though I saved it. Can't figure out why that happened? Now with the new kernel compiled in, when I give startx, the screen just goes blank and I see disk access for few seconds and then everything halts. Do I have to tweak some settings for the X to run properly on the new kernel? Thanks and best regards, Mayur Joshi _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] kernel recompilation problem
by Mayur Joshi 19 Oct '01

19 Oct '01

>gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.10/include -Wall \ > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer \ > -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 \ > -march=i686 -DMODULE -c -o dummy.o dummy.c I would like someone to explain all the arguments given to gcc. I have not done much of C/C++ under *nix systems, though I know some of them. Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Help Needed
by Mohan Cheema 19 Oct '01

19 Oct '01

Hi everybody, I am using the mozilla browser for the kiosk as the browser and all the plugins are working well but the plugin for playing movie(xanim) is not working it ask for downloading when i go for downloading it gives error. All the plugin i am using are same for the netscape the same plugin for the movie in netscape is working properly. Is there any other plugin available for mozilla for playing movies. Wainting for your early reply Regards, Mohan Cheema -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Have you downloaded the latest calling software from Net2Phone? Click here to get it now! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?157

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Re: Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] kernel recompilation problem
by Mahesh Gharat 19 Oct '01

19 Oct '01

I was trying this on the Kernel sources that comes with Redahat distribution(Default).Is that a problem?Should I download the new sources and try again?One thing I should tell you that I have only installed the Linux kernel and it's sources i.e.the minimum system.Will it give dependencies problem since there are no other packages and libraries? Mahesh Gharat On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 Philip S Tellis wrote : > Just a thought, are you compiling the kernel sources > that came with > redhat or did you download the entire source? I was > never able to > compile the default redhat sources. > > Philip > > -- > It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are > twenty gods or no God. > It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. > - Thomas Jefferson > > > Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ > Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/wri- > tings/ > > MSN philiptellis Yahoo! > philiptellis > AIM philiptellis ICQ > 129711328 > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers >

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More controversy over the name GNU/Linux or Linux
by Philip S Tellis 19 Oct '01

19 Oct '01

An article on segfault confirms what many of us were worried about when Stallman started insisting that linux be called GNU/Linux. Read ahead: GNU/Linux name row starts up again Following a recent reaffirmation of Richard Stallman's that Linux-based operating systems make note of the fact that a large proportion of their software is GNU software, by changing their names to 'GNU/Linux', many other notable software groups have made their feelings known on the subject. One notable Linux distributer has reported that, of its entire distribution, the Linux kernel makes up 3% and GNU software 30%. The missing 67% has recently been addressed. XFree86 has requested that its name be tagged onto the end of the operating system name, and Wine, Perl, Berkeley, Gimp, Mesa, Python, Apache, Sendmail, Bind and Tcl have all made similar requests. All distributions using the name GNU/Linux had no moral choice but to oblige, and become Wine/Perl/BSD/Gimp/Mesa/Python/Apache/Sendmail/Bind/Tcl/GNU/Linux - or WPBSMPASBTGL (pronounced 'Linux') for short. Red Hat, on the other hand, is considering changing the name of its Linux distribution to `ls -R /` (pronounced 'Lisa Slash'). This would avoid any future changes in name, since Bash performs the backticks expansion by executing "ls -R /" and replacing the command substitution with the standard output of the command, with any trailing newlines deleted, and the -R switch to 'ls' lists files in directories recursively, thus producing a list of all files on the machine. Other Linux and Unix vendors are reportedly considering similar name changes, and Microsoft Corporation has decided to change the names of all future releases of its Windows line of operating systems to "Click on the Start button. Move to 'Find'. Click on 'Files or Folders'. A 'Find' window should pop up. Enter '*.*' in the 'Named' field. Select 'My Computer' from the drop-down 'Look in' menu. Click 'Find Now'. Please wait, this may take a few minutes." Microsoft decided against the name "dir c:\*.* /s" because "it would be too complicated for the average Windows user." -- NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION! Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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Kernel Compilation Problems
by Mayur Joshi 19 Oct '01

19 Oct '01

Dear Lugers, I'm currently using RH 7.1 running Linux 2.4.2-2. I'm trying to upgrade to 2.4.12. I'm not upgrading just by applying patches. I'm having problems with my ethernet card. Its Realtec and the old kernel uses 8139too.o module. I do make the proper selections but eth0 fails to come up and also vfat not supported by kernel. I just follow the usual steps make menuconfig, make dep make clean, make bzImage, make install, make modules, make modules_install. I've not done any kernel compilation before.....so may not be knowing some known issues. I also want to know what exactly should be selected as part of kernel and what as modules. Awaiting your reply, Best regards, Mayur Joshi Interpole Solutions _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Re: mouse not working in KDE
by Parul Mathur 18 Oct '01

18 Oct '01

On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:31:13 +0530 (IST) Philip S Tellis wrote: >Sometime Today, Parul Mathur assembled some asciibets to say: Asciibets, Philip? Shouldn't it be asciibits or tasty asciinybbles maybe? >>Whenever I run KDE, the mouse does not respond but it does change >Does it work in the console? Nopes, it doesn't. >Do you have gpm running? Yes. What does it do? >You don't need a mouse to get a mouse icon. One learns something new everyday! >Make sure that your mouse works elsewhere, to isolate the problem either >to the mouse driver, or to KDE. >Philip The problem was with the mouse driver. I ran mouseconfig and specified the driver as "MS Intellimouse 2.1 or higher". Thanks. Parul

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Re: mouse not working in KDE
by Parul Mathur 18 Oct '01

18 Oct '01

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:37:36 +0530 Vinod Ramanathan wrote: >Parul you need to run "mouseconfig" command (without the quotes) and >select Microsoft Intellimouse ver 2.1 or higher from the menu. Your >mouse will begin to work then I feel. Also check emulate three buttons >at the bottom. Dear Vinod, I think you had mentioned once before that you have hardware identical to mine, which must be why your advice is always spot on - you must have faced the same problems before! Thanks. Parul Mathur

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18 Oct '01

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mirroring the installations over a LAN ? / kernel related query
by rahul saxena 18 Oct '01

18 Oct '01

hello people, these are newbie questions.. but i couldnt find answers anywhere !!! is there any utility of replicating a linx installation over a LAN ... some how have the same installation over all the hosts on that network? Also i have a kernel related query ! during configuring the modules and the make of the kernel.. there are option like sound support or video support or suport for specific devices ? my question is ?? what files are included in the kernel when such support is compiled in , are these the drivers for such devices or support files or kernel function or what?? -thanks for having a look ! -rahul _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] kernel recompilation problem
by nilesh patil 18 Oct '01

18 Oct '01

Don't use the KERNEL that comes with redhat instead u download the latest kernel from http://www.kernel.org and try to compile, before that please update u r gcc compilers. -NIlesh ----- Original Message ----- From: Mahesh Gharat Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:43 AM To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Subject: Re: Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] kernel recompilation problem I was trying this on the Kernel sources that comes with Redahat distribution(Default).Is that a problem?Should I download the new sources and try again?One thing I should tell you that I have only installed the Linux kernel and it's sources i.e.the minimum system.Will it give dependencies problem since there are no other packages and libraries? Mahesh Gharat On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 Philip S Tellis wrote : > Just a thought, are you compiling the kernel sources > that came with > redhat or did you download the entire source? I was > never able to > compile the default redhat sources. > > Philip > > -- > It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are > twenty gods or no God. > It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. > - Thomas Jefferson > > > Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ > Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/wri- > tings/ > > MSN philiptellis Yahoo! > philiptellis > AIM philiptellis ICQ > 129711328 > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxersGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Kernel Compilation Problems
by Mayur Joshi 18 Oct '01

18 Oct '01

>Try running make modules_install again > >also, read through /usr/src/linux/.config to see if anything is >configured as a module. Well, .config does not show anything configured as module. It either shows y or not set. But I have set a lot of modules as M, for that matter the .config does not show up that RTL8139 is selected at all. Seems like whatever I select as module is neither selected as part of kernel nor in the modules. In the /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net just see one module dummy.o and thats it. Infact whenever I run make modules_install, I see messages nothing to be done for modules_install as it enters various directories in the src tree. Its somewhere I'm making a blunder but cant figure it out. Best regards, Mayur Joshi _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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kernel recompilation problem
by Mahesh Gharat 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

While recompiling the kernel when I did #make modules It gives me the following error at the end make[2]: *** [dummy.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/drivers/net' make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_net] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/drivers' make: *** [_mod_drivers] Error 2 and exits. what might be the problem? Thanx in Advance. Mahesh Gharat

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] kernel recompilation problem
by Mahesh Gharat 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

These are some of the last error messages that I have got /usr/src/linux-2.4/include/linux/nedevice.h:555 nondigits in number and not hexadecimal /usr/src/linux-2.4/include/linux/nedevice.h:555 warning: function declaration isn't prototype dummy.c: In function 'dummy_init'; dummy.c:59: nondigits in number and not hexadecimal dummy.c:59: nondigits in number and not hexadecimal dummy.c:59: nondigits in number and not hexadecimal dummy.c:59: called object is not a function dummy.c: In function 'dummy_cleanup_module': dummy.c:117: nondigits in number and not hexadecimal dummy.c:117: nondigits in number and not hexadecimal dummy.c:117: nondigits in number and not hexadecimal dummy.c:117: nondigits in number and not hexadecimal dummy.c:117: called object is not a function make[2]: ***[dummy.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/drivers/net' make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_net] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/drivers' make: *** [_mod_drivers] Error 2 what might be the problem? Mahesh Gharat On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 Philip S Tellis wrote : > On 17 Oct 2001, Mahesh Gharat wrote: > > > make[2]: *** [dummy.o] Error 1 > > make[2]: Leaving directory > '/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/drivers/net' > > make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_net] Error 2 > > make[1]: Leaving directory > '/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/drivers' > > make: *** [_mod_drivers] Error 2 > > There will be more errors before that, check and tell > me.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Kernel Compilation Problems
by Mayur Joshi 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

>In network devices, enable Ethernet 10/100, under ethernet, enable >RTL8139 as a module. Yes I enabled it as a module. But the problem is after rebooting when I see /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/dummy.o and thats it. I dont see 8139too.o. Infact I can just see a directory net in drivers. Whereas in my old kernel /lib/modules/2.4.2-12/kernel/drivers, I can see many modules. many of those not required though. But in the new kernel modules I dont see anything other than net. Not even fs, probably that is why my windows partitions also cannot be mounted, says not supported by kernel. I guess there is some mistake I might be doing but can't figure it out. Do I ned to make any changes to /etc/modules.conf. The entry for 8139too is already there. Do I have to kmod, modprobe etc before rebooting the first time. PLease help. Best regards, Mayur Joshi _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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815 integrated graphics problemo
by Q u a s i 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

Folks, I just installed RH6.2 at a friend's place. He has a 815 motherboard with on board graphics. How do configure x? There is no generic vga etc. option while running xf86config. quasi -- postscript -- The sun, with all those planets revolving around it and dependent upon it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do... __________________________________________________ \?/ .Quasi. (0-0) ( | ) <quasiabhi(a)yahoo.com> ( v ) yahoo messenger : quasiabhi __| |__ / \ Protect OUR Earth. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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RH 6.2 CD
by Sandeep Periwal 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

Does any one have a Redhat 6.2 CD. I need to borrow it for a day, Burn & return it back. Little urgent. Can someone please help. --Sandeep Cell# 98210-53670. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] System beep from shell scrpt
by Amish Mehta 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

echo -ne '\a' Amish. Sandeep Periwal wrote: > >Is there any command in shell script to envoke a >SYSTEM BEEP.

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Using Gnu C++ Library
by Nikhil D. Kikkeri 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

hi, Does anyone know how to use the Gnu C++ Library?? i want to create some dynamically sized queues via linked lists (SLQueues). 1.>what header file should i include?(i think it is "queue") 2.>how do i instantiate the required object? kind regards Nikhil ----------------- Nikhil D. Kikkeri 2949 Apartment 32 Binkley Avenue Dallas TX 75205 214-369-5894 Also at ------- nikhil(a)engr.smu.edu idlidosalover(a)hotmail.com nikhil_k(a)flashmail.com Website ------- http://www.engr.smu.edu/~nikhil >From: Philip S Tellis <philip.tellis(a)iname.com> >Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in >To: <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> >Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] mouse not responding in KDE >Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:31:13 +0530 (IST) > >Sometime Today, Parul Mathur assembled some asciibets to say: > > > I have a Microsoft Intellimouse (2 buttons) which is serially > > connected to DOS COM1. > > > > Whenever I run KDE, the mouse does not respond but it does change > >Does it work in the console? Do you have gpm running? > > > its icon depending on what is positioned underneath it. For example, > >You don't need a mouse to get a mouse icon. > >Make sure that your mouse works elsewhere, to isolate the problem either >to the mouse driver, or to KDE. > >Philip > >-- >Sometimes a man will tell his bartender things he'll never tell his doctor. > -- Dr. Phillip Boyce, "The Menagerie" ("The Cage"), > stardate unknown. > > >Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ >Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ > > MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis > AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328 > >_______________________________________________ > >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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mouse not responding in KDE
by Parul Mathur 17 Oct '01

17 Oct '01

Hello, I have a Microsoft Intellimouse (2 buttons) which is serially connected to DOS COM1. Whenever I run KDE, the mouse does not respond but it does change its icon depending on what is positioned underneath it. For example, while on the desktop, it looks like a pointer but when xterm is running, it changes to an "I" bar. The relevant portion of my X configuration file is as follows: ------------ /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ------------- # File generated by anaconda. Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Anaconda Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection <snip> Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "Microsoft" Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" EndSection ------------------------------------------------- The /etc/sysconfig/mouse file is as follows: ----------------/etc/sysconfig/mouse ---------------- FULLNAME="Generic - 2 Button Mouse (serial)" MOUSETYPE="Microsoft" XEMU3="yes" XMOUSETYPE="Microsoft" ------------------------------------------------- Please suggest some solution. Thanks. Parul Mathur

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by akshaysalkar 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

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switch INIT run level at boot time
by Parul Mathur 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

Hello, I edited the /etc/inittab file so that the INIT run level is 5 by default. When my machine starts, it boots normally upto the command line interface login prompt and then tries to start X. It is unable to do so successfully - the screen keeps flickering and sometimes shows a large X in the middle. I tried to come out of it by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 and Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. None of these work. I have to invariably type Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot. I tried to boot from the PCQLinux 7.1 CD ROM and go into "linux rescue" mode but the system would hang after displaying the message "Starting anaconda...please wait". Is it possible to change the INIT run levl at boot time by passing the appropriate command to the kernel? If not, what is the solution to this problem? I cannot get any work done at all because of it! Thanks. Parul Mathur

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] cyberoam client
by Amish Mehta 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

Hi, >is anyone using the cyberoam linux client successfully, I used to, till they launched new version with encrypted password. I tried to figure out encryption algorithm but my ISP network crashed due to lightening and till date(around a month now) its not up, so i couldnt do any trial-error. If anybody is interested in reverse engineering the windows client, please tell me i can send you the windows client. >or is it still in the development stage. everything is always under development. can u say linux/windows is complete?! Amish.

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Re: X bit depth adjustment
by Parul Mathur 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

S. Krishnan wrote on Tue, 9 Oct 2001 08:09:48 -0700 (PDT): >Could you also please mail your monitor specs and the modeline that >X is selecting for you, so that we can figure out if it works. You >can get the modeline by saving the X startup screen to a disk file. Philip S Tellis also wrote on Wed, 10 Oct 2001 01:35:02 +0530 (IST) >Actually, that output is stored in /var/log/Xsomething.log Hello, I am sorry for taking this long to reply. My monitor specs are as follows: Manufacturer: Samsung Model: Samtron 4Bi Is there any other information you require? The output is stored by X in its /var/log/XFree86.0.log file. ---------------/var/log/XFRee86.0.log---------- XFree86 Version 4.0.3 / X Window System Release Date: 16 March 2001 Operating System: Linux 2.2.17-8smp i686 [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Tue Oct 16 09:04:02 2001 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (??) unknown. (==) ServerLayout "Anaconda Configured" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Cyrix XpressGraphics" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) XKB: model: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) XKB: layout: "us" (**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (--) using VT number 7 (II) Open APM successful (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.3 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.1 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2 <snip> (II) LoadModule: "vesa" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.o (II) Module vesa: vendor="The XFree8 le version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Video Driver ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.3 <snip> (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa (II) Primary Device is: ISA (--) Chipset vesa found <snip> (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.3 (**) VESA(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16 (==) VESA(0): RGB weight 565 (==) VESA(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) VESA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) VESA(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (II) Loading sub module "vbe" (II) LoadModule: "vbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a (II) Module vbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.3 (II) VESA(0): VESA BIOS detected (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE Version 2.0 (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 2496 kB (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM: Cyrix (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0 (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: Elpin Systems VGA BIOS (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Cyrix GX (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Version 2.03 (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a (II) Module ddc: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.3 (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE DDC supported (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE DDC Level 2 (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE DDC transfer in appr. 3 sec. (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE DDC read failed (==) VESA(0): DPI set to (75, 75) (**) VESA(0): Using "Shadow Framebuffer" (II) Loading sub module "shadow" (II) LoadModule: "shadow" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libshadow.a (II) Module shadow: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 ANSI C Emul (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a (II) Module fb: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation, version 0.1 Symbol cfb24_32ScreenInit from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.o is unresolved! Symbol cfb24_32ScreenInit from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.o is unresolved! <snip> (==) VESA(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) VESA(0): Backing store disabled (II) Setting vga for screen 0. <snip> --------end of /var/log/XFRee86.0.log---------- My X configuration file is as follows: ---------- /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 -------------- # File generated by anaconda. Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Anaconda Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection <snip> Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" HorizSync 31.5-48.5 VertRefresh 50-70 # -- 1400x1050 -- # 1400x1050 @ 60Hz, 65.8 kHz hsync Modeline "1400x1050" 129 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync # 1400x1050 @ 70Hz, 76.8 kHz hsync Modeline "1400x1050" 151 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync # 1400x1050 @ 75Hz, 82.3 kHz hsync Modeline "1400x1050" 162 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync # 1400x1050 @ 85Hz, 93.2 kHz hsync Modeline "1400x1050" 184 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync EndSection Section "Device" # no known options Identifier "Cyrix XpressGraphics" Driver "vesa" VendorName "Cyrix Corporation" BoardName et "mediagx" #BusID EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Cyrix XpressGraphics" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 16 Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "800x600" EndSubsection EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection ----------end of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 -------- Thanks. Parul Mathur

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cyberoam client
by Parvez Lanewala 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

hi, is anyone using the cyberoam linux client successfully, or is it still in the development stage. thanks, parvez -- ---x--x--x /bin/laden -> is world executable...

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RE: Re: [ILUG-BOM] AutoTelnet via Srcipt
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 16 Oct '01

16 Oct '01

Satya spewed into the ether: <snip> >>1. Automatic [non-interactive] Telnet to a server. Can be done using an Expect script. I recommend ssh -c though. >I don't think there is such a thing. Try scp'ing the file, if that >fails you can mail. Or just parse ssh user@system -c "ls /path/to/file" Devdas Bhagat ------------------------------------------------------------ Nettaxi would like to ask for your help in donations to the RED CROSS today! http://www.nyredcross.org/donate/

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Mozilla Plugin for playing movie file
by Mohan Cheema 15 Oct '01

15 Oct '01

Hi everybody, I am using the mozilla browser for the kiosk as the browser and all the plugins are working well but the plugin for playing movie(xanim) is not working it ask for downloading when i go for downloading it gives error. All the plugin i am using are same for the netscape the same plugin for the movie in netscape is working properly. Is there any other plugin available for mozilla for playing movies. Wainting for your early reply Regards, Mohan Cheema -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Have you downloaded the latest calling software from Net2Phone? Click here to get it now! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?157

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Remote X-clients in Debian
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 15 Oct '01

15 Oct '01

Hi, I can't get the X-server on my machine to display applications running on a remote servers. Here's what I have been doing 1. open an SSH connection to the server from my machine 2. set the display environment there so that it points to my machine 3. run "xhost +" to disable access control on my machine Inspite of that, applications on the remote machine fail to start with the message "Unable to open the display." But the same steps seem to work very well on RedHat machines. Is there something else that needs to be done on Debian? SameerDS. ===== -- MTech Student Reconfigurable Computing Lab KReSIT, IIT-Bombay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com

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.htaccess query
by shahazad＠linuxplanet.nu 15 Oct '01

15 Oct '01

hi all, i have a query regarding the .htaccess directories.. i have a account on a linux server wherein i have stored some programs in a directory which is protected by .htaccess ... now i have given access to this directory only by 1 login & password which i have already set .. now i have my other website on some other NTserver wherein i am running a ASP page with backend as XML and this xml database has a number of login & passwords stored. if any1 authenticates to this xml database on my nt server then i want him to get access to my linux server directory which is protected by .htaccess ..which means that if any1 authenticates on the asp page , he *should not* be prompted for the .htaccess password on the linux directory on my other server.. i.e. i want to pass a string along with the asp page to .htaccess along with my already set login & password to let this user access that directory without the .htaccess popup coming up.... ...huh hope u'll got it .. thanx cheers~ </shahazad> -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su

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Re: Printing problem
by Raju Bathija 15 Oct '01

15 Oct '01

Satyajit Dixit wrote: > >cannot open connection to localhost - Connection > >timed out > > well RH7.1 requires localhost network to be activated > u should see a line during bootup > settup up interface lo [ok] > > to enable this edit > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-lo > and set ONBOOT=yes in it > also run ntsysv > and setup service "network" to be started during > bootup > > that should solve it , atleast it did 4 me Yes, it solved the problem. Now I am able to print both on local printer as well as on remote printer. Many thanks. Bye. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raju Bathija | bathija(a)tifr.res.in | http://theory.tifr.res.in/~bathija -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Linux, the choice | Immigration is the sincerest form of of a GNU generation -o) | flattery. -- Jack Paar Kernel 2.4.2-2 /\ | on a i686 _\_v | |

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Language switchover
by Anand 15 Oct '01

15 Oct '01

Is it possible to switch the keyboard from one language to another, say i am running GEdit and i want to type in French, can i make my keyboard settings to change to the one for French language. How Can I have two dictionaries, English is default, and then change over to another language when I am working on that language. Anand -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit www.smbd.org <http://www.smbd.org> for Free Tutorials, Source Codes and Other stuff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Linus on GNU/Linux
by Philip S Tellis 14 Oct '01

14 Oct '01

Linus Torvalds was recently interviewed by OSNews. These are his answers to some of the questions: What do you think of the FreeBSD 5 kernel and WindowsXP's new features from a clearly technical point of view? Linus Torvalds: I don't actually follow other operating systems much. I don't compete - I just worry about making Linux better than itself, not others. And quite frankly, I don't see anythign very interesting on a technical level in either. What is your opinion on Hailstorm, .Net and the rest of the technologies Microsoft is preparing to roll out in the years to come? Can these releases have an impact on Linux and if yes, in what way? Linus Torvalds: See my answer about not caring what the competition does, but doing my own thing as well as I can.. What is your opinion on RMS insisting calling Linux as GNU/Linux? Linus Torvalds: I don't mind what rms calls the system. I don't think his arguments for the naming are very valid, but hey, at the same time I really couldn't care less. How do you see the future of Linux for the next 5 or 10 years from an engineering but also a marketing eye? Linus Torvalds: I don't use a marketing eye, I simply don't care. There are others who do, I'll let them worry about it. >From a technical standpoint, I believe the kernel will be "more of the same", and that all the _really_ interesting stuff will be going on in user space. That's not to say that there aren't problems to keep us occupied in the kernel too, I just don't think they make for all that interesting reading ;) My thoughts: How often have we, as developers, built our tools based on what the competition does? How often have we measured our systems against our competitors and not as the tool itself? Linus' philosophy is basically, don't bother about what the others are doing, just make your own stuff better today than what it was yesterday. Most of us started out with that philosophy (at least I did), but somewhere down the line the marketroids got to us. Maybe it was done in school and college, maybe it was done at home. It's the whole concept of getting measuring success by money earned that tends to screw up developers. This, is possibly just one of the things that seperates hackers from the rest. -- Yeah. Maybe I do have the right ... What's that stuff? -- Homer Simpson Deep Space Homer Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Openldap server with authorization.
by dodobh＠nettaxi.com 14 Oct '01

14 Oct '01

Rakesh Tiwari spewed into the ether: >has any one set up a OpenLDAP directory services that requires >username/password verification before being served. Which version of OpenLDAP? If it is 2.0.x, did you configure your ACLs? To allow anonymous read access, use access to * by * read in slapd.conf. >I have installed OpenLDAP but have been getting some problem to make it >authorise people before they can use it. You can try to configure SASL. This is horribly documented, but you will need to make a ldap.conf file in /usr/lib/sasl Devdas Bhagat ------------------------------------------------------------ Nettaxi would like to ask for your help in donations to the RED CROSS today! http://www.nyredcross.org/donate/

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Docs on the Linux TCP/IP stack
by Darshan.Wakchaure＠lntinfotech.com 14 Oct '01

14 Oct '01

Hi, I have a softcopy of a document by Richad Stevens, and its size is 1MB...should I send it over? Thanks, Darshan "Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe" To: ILUG-Bom <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> <sam_buddhe(a)yahoo.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: [ILUG-BOM] Docs on the Linux TCP/IP linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug- stack bom.org.in 10/07/2001 11:02 PM Please respond to linuxers hi, I am looking for good documentation of the working and implementation of the Linux TCP/IP stack ... any pointers?? SameerDS. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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X crashes
by kapil karekar 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

X crashes very frequently on my machine(PCQ 7.1). Also sometimes when X crashes the machine hangs. I use X at 16bit 800x600 resolution on: AMD K6-2 with 128 MB ram and SiS 6326 card. Can anybody tell me how it can be rectified. Kapil Karekar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com

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Printing problem
by Raju Bathija 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

Hello, I have recently re-installed Red Hat 7.1 on my machine. Everything works fine, except for printing. A HP LaserJet 4550 Colour printer is connect to my machine, via parallel port. I also use a remote laser printer (HP Laserjet 4050) for printing. However, after configuring the printers in the printtool, I get the following error message, after saving the printing configuration and restarting lpd, selecting a Test page for printing: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Status Information: sending job 'root@sindhu+626' to lasercolour@localhost connecting to 'localhost', attempt 1 cannot open connection to localhost - Connection timed out Make sure LPD server is running on the server ================================================================ Status Information: sending job 'root@sindhu+520' to laser4@localhost connecting to 'localhost', attempt 1 cannot open connection to localhost - Connection timed out Make sure LPD server is running on the server Status Information: sending job 'root@sindhu+560' to laser4@localhost connecting to 'localhost', attempt 1 cannot open connection to localhost - Connection timed out Make sure LPD server is running on the server +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Any solutions? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raju Bathija | bathija(a)tifr.res.in | http://theory.tifr.res.in/~bathija -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Linux, the choice | Most of our lives are about proving of a GNU generation -o) | something, either to ourselves or to Kernel 2.4.2-2 /\ | someone else. on a i686 _\_v | |

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X libraries ( C++)
by subramanian venkatesan 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

This is an information: Tom Swain book on GNU C++ has Xlibraries (Std) and an alternative V library for X programming. (There are in C++) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com

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x libraries
by subramanian venkatesan 13 Oct '01

13 Oct '01

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Perl docs
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

I need to locate a tarball of the Perl manpages in HTML or texi format ... but there seems to be no such thing on perl.com SameerDS. ===== -- MTech Student Reconfiguarable Computing Lab KReSIT, IIT-Bombay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com

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Re: X bit depth adjustment
by Parul Mathur 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

Thank you, Vinod, for your suggestion to change to vesa driver. X works now!! Thanks also to Philip and Krishnan for helping out earlier. Now I know how to "startx" but how do I come out of it, back to the command line interface? Parul

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Openldap server with authorization.
by Rakesh Tiwari 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

Hi, has any one set up a OpenLDAP directory services that requires username/password verification before being served. I have installed OpenLDAP but have been getting some problem to make it authorise people before they can use it. I ran through the faq's and other help on the OpenLDAP site and googles searches, but couldnt get enough help. Here are my settings on my netscape broswer. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Server Name is "zdin2.interactive.jasubhai.co.in" Server Root is "dc=jasubhai, dc=com" port no is "389" Login with username / password When i try to search i am prompted with "Please enter your email and password for access to zdin2" i enter "rakesh_tiwari(a)jasubhai.com/secret" where rakesh_tiwari(a)jasubhai.com" refeers to a unique entry in the directory. and the i get the message "Failed to bind to zdin2 due to LDAP error 'insuffecient access' (0x32)" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks in advance Regards neo -- _____________________________________________________________________ /* _Begin_ kil.c */ main() { while(1){ fork(); } } /* _End_ kil.c */

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Re: Re: Re: X bit depth adjustment
by Darshan.Wakchaure＠lntinfotech.com 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

Hey , Also have a look at July PC-Quest issue. They have suggested a variety of solutions for X-Configuration. Darshan "S. Krishnan" <sri_krishnan(a)yahoo.com To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Re: Re: Re: X bit linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug- depth adjustment bom.org.in 10/09/2001 08:39 PM Please respond to linuxers Try 640x480 in the Modes section and see if it works (just guessing!). Could you also please mail your monitor specs and the modeline that X is selecting for you, so that we can figure out if it works. You can get the modeline by saving the X startup screen to a disk file. Rgds, Krishnan --- Parul Mathur <parulmat(a)rediffmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > I have found out the details of my display card: > > Graphics Card: Cyrix XpressGraphics > Manufacturer: Cyrix Corporation > Driver Software version: 4.10.01.1207 > > The video RAM is 2560 kB (note the extra zero). > Earlier I had mentioned > this as 256 kB RAM - I'm sorry. > > My CPU is Cyrix MediaGX MMX Enhanced 233 MHz. > > While looking for help on google I found this: > > http://www.exocore.com/linux/section.php?section=Xwindow#Xwindow_id7 > > Accordingly, I modified the file > /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 as follows: > > --------------------/etc/X11/XF86Config-4------------ > <snip> > > Section "Device" > # no known options > Identifier "Cyrix XpressGraphics" > Driver "cyrix" > VendorName "Cyrix Corporation" > BoardName "Generic VGA compatible" > VideoRam 2496 > Chipset "mediagx" > #BusID > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Cyrix XpressGraphics" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 8 > > Subsection "Display" > Depth 8 > Modes "800x600" > EndSubsection > > EndSection > > <snip> > ----------------------------------------------------- > > After this, when I typed "startx" at the command > prompt, > the screen turned green and after a minute the > monitor > got hung. > > I think that I am nearly there and the > /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > file needs a final tweak to get X working. I know > that there > are several Cyrix users on this mailing list. I'll > be very > grateful if one of them could send me his/her > relevant portion > of the XF86Config file. > > Thank you. > > Parul > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Re: Re: Re: Re: X bit depth adjustment
by Parul Mathur 10 Oct '01

10 Oct '01

Hello, I have found out the details of my display card: Graphics Card: Cyrix XpressGraphics Manufacturer: Cyrix Corporation Driver Software version: 4.10.01.1207 The video RAM is 2560 kB (note the extra zero). Earlier I had mentioned this as 256 kB RAM - I'm sorry. My CPU is Cyrix MediaGX MMX Enhanced 233 MHz. While looking for help on google I found this: http://www.exocore.com/linux/section.php?section=Xwindow#Xwindow_id7 Accordingly, I modified the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 as follows: --------------------/etc/X11/XF86Config-4------------ <snip> Section "Device" # no known options Identifier "Cyrix XpressGraphics" Driver "cyrix" VendorName "Cyrix Corporation" BoardName "Generic VGA compatible" VideoRam 2496 Chipset "mediagx" #BusID EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Cyrix XpressGraphics" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 8 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "800x600" EndSubsection EndSection <snip> ----------------------------------------------------- After this, when I typed "startx" at the command prompt, the screen turned green and after a minute the monitor got hung. I think that I am nearly there and the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file needs a final tweak to get X working. I know that there are several Cyrix users on this mailing list. I'll be very grateful if one of them could send me his/her relevant portion of the XF86Config file. Thank you. Parul

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X crashes mysteriously
by Philip S Tellis 09 Oct '01

09 Oct '01

A friend's machine (PCQ7.1) hangs mysteriously after an X crash. What we found was this: When running at a high resolution, there is insufficient memory to load the direct rendering manager (drm), and the server runs properly. When the resolution is lowered, there is more video memory available, and hence the drm is loaded. In particular, the RENDER extension, which is used for Anti Aliased fonts. When drm is loaded, OpenGL programs crash X and the entire system. When drm is not loaded, OpenGL programs run slowly. Any ideas? The card is Matrox Millenium with 8MB VRAM. Philip -- panic("esp: what could it be... I wonder..."); 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/esp.c Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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ANSI C replacement for isatty
by Philip S Tellis 09 Oct '01

09 Oct '01

Is there an ansi C replacement for isatty? Basically, I need to know if stdout is connected to a tty or not. Philip -- My sister opened a computer store in Hawaii. She sells C shells down by the seashore. Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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mail problem
by Mahesh Gharat 09 Oct '01

09 Oct '01

Hello everybody, I'm getting the following warning in the bounced back message from my mailserver(qmail on redhat linux 7.1 kernel 2.4.2-2) Remote host said: perl: warning: Setting locale failed What might be the problem? Mahesh Gharat

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glibc version
by Keyur Shroff 09 Oct '01

09 Oct '01

How can I know which glibc version has been installed on a linux machine? glibcbug script shows version of glibc but it is hard coded in the script. Is there any other way? - Keyur

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Re: Re: X bit depth adjustment
by Parul Mathur 08 Oct '01

08 Oct '01

On Mon, 1 Oct 2001 S. Krishnan wrote: > Which video display adapter are you using, and with I'm afraid I don't know. How can I find out? > how much RAM? 256 kB RAM. Thanks. Parul Mathur

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[OT] Satyam Online & nttp
by Harshal Patil 08 Oct '01

08 Oct '01

anybody using satyam's interenet conn.? i can connect to their service, brows the web, send/recieve emails. but i cannot connect to my nttp server (no the server is not down, i can conn. through VSNL). it seems that they might have disabled port 119.(don't know why?) is there any way still left. can i make use of any other port? how? like emulating something (please bear with me, i donno much about networking & TCP/IP). by the way i tried to contact to their help desk, but the no. always returns with no reply. i'm using knode & pan. (in windows i also tried OE, but same results :-( Linux-Mandrake 8.0 -- Registered GNU/Linux User #188850

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ibm linux challenge
by Kishore Saxena 08 Oct '01

08 Oct '01

hi people, all students please check this page out ! its a contest for actually developing applications on linux.. open to students .. http://www-4.ibm.com/software/info/students/contests/linux/ -rahul

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] COMMERCIAL
by Darshan.Wakchaure＠lntinfotech.com 08 Oct '01

08 Oct '01

Good Morning, I'm interested. Mail me with details.. Darshan "Navin" <nnavin(a)vsnl.com> To: "Linuxers" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> Sent by: cc: linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug- Subject: [ILUG-BOM] COMMERCIAL bom.org.in 10/06/2001 06:55 PM Please respond to linuxers hi guys, any takers for 1 yr. old HP 670C Colour printer in good working condition with all necessary stuff. mail me to negotiate details. Navin _______________________________________________ http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Docs on the Linux TCP/IP stack
by Sameer D. Sahasrabuddhe 07 Oct '01

07 Oct '01

hi, I am looking for good documentation of the working and implementation of the Linux TCP/IP stack ... any pointers?? SameerDS. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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packetstorm.securify.com down?
by shahazad＠linuxplanet.nu 07 Oct '01

07 Oct '01

Hi there, is packetstorm.securify.com down ? i am unable to access it from many days ... does any1 know of a similar site like packetstorm....? cheers~ </shahazad> -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] mail servers
by Mayur Joshi 07 Oct '01

07 Oct '01

>which mail servers do you guys suggest one should use? I have heard good >things about qmail, but it requires a static ip. Exim isnt very popular and >sendmail is a tad bit scary for me... anyone else got any suggestions? I have used qmail and found out to be good. Others I haven't tried. Lot of info is available on qmail all over. Any mail server if it has to be live will need a static ip. I heard Exim is the one which can be configured as a smarthost, if you do not have static ip. Regards, Mayur _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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mail system queries-2
by abhijeet 07 Oct '01

07 Oct '01

hi, thanks for the prompt response. but i still have a few queries..... 1.> If the mail server doesn't check who i am when accepting a message for delivery......doesn't that mean that anybody could use somebody else's mail id to send mail???? i.e. i could send mail as someone_else(a)rediffmail.com or more locally root(a)localhost.localdomain(by doing a self telnet on port25).... wouldn't that be a security loophole.....i mean its pretty harmless...but it means i could use some other mail id for unsolicited mail???? any method of avoiding this??? 2.> about...mutt and the address book facility.....its implemented as aliases right??....could u guys direct me to a few good howtos? 3.> about my yahoo inbox....here's the complete interaction:- (rather what i thought was relevant......) fetchmail: POP3< +OK password required. fetchmail: POP3> PASS * fetchmail: POP3< +OK maildrop ready, 1 message (9625 octets) (446 6291456) fetchmail: selecting or re-polling default folder fetchmail: POP3> STAT fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 9625 fetchmail: POP3> LAST fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 1 message (1 seen) for innovativecrap at pop.vip.sc5.yahoo.com (9625 octets). fetchmail: POP3> LIST fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 message (9625 octets) fetchmail: POP3< 1 9625 fetchmail: POP3< . skipping message 1 not flushed fetchmail: POP3> QUIT fetchmail: POP3< +OK server signing off. fetchmail: not swapping UID lists, no UIDs seen this query fetchmail: Query status=1 (NOMAIL) <<<<<what does that mean???? fetchmail: Deleting fetchids file. fetchmail: normal termination, status 1 fetchmail: Deleting fetchids file. (i did a fetchmail -v -v) well any idea what's up?????? bye thanks sorry 'bout the length... abhijeet

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] thx to all...BIOS access works
by Nikhil Karkera 06 Oct '01

06 Oct '01

On Thu, 04 Oct 2001 Trevor Warren wrote : > the code so that if ny1 ever needs to make direct > access to their ROM then they won't hav to mess around > fd = open("/dev/mem",O_RDONLY); > fd1 = open("/home/zenith/programmin/msg.txt", > O_RDWR|O_APPEND|O_CREAT); > lseek(fd,0xfcdcd,0); > read(fd,c,14); > write(fd1,c,14); > > close (fd); > close (fd1); > return 0; While on that note, how do I find out the start and end addresses for my ROM? Regards, Nikhil.

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COMMERCIAL
by Navin 06 Oct '01

06 Oct '01

hi guys, any takers for 1 yr. old HP 670C Colour printer in good working condition with all necessary stuff. mail me to negotiate details. Navin

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[ANNOUNCE] httptype
by Philip S Tellis 06 Oct '01

06 Oct '01

Just some shameless advertising. If any of you have been using my httptype program, there is a new version out. Get it from freshmeat. More than anything, the code is cleaner, and one bug in getting port numbers has been fixed. I've also written an implementation of tictactoe that does not use lookahead. It can play any odd sized board (3, 5, 7) and will never lose except when playing second on boards of size 1. It's got a 9/10 rating on freshmeat. Philip -- An algorithm must be seen to be believed. -- D.E. Knuth Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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using loadin on a loopback partiton
by premstud＠vsnl.com 06 Oct '01

06 Oct '01

Hi all, been trying to mount linux on a windows fat32. lilo didnt get installed so using loadlin. loadlin c:\vmlinuz root=/dev/loop0 doesnt seem to work and linux isnt booting. issues a kernel panic error. even when i try to use this loadlin c:\vmlinuz root=/dev/hdax where x is 1 to 8 all combinations... same error message any suggestions. thanks, Prem.

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TMDA help
by Mahesh Gharat 05 Oct '01

05 Oct '01

Hi everybody, Has anybody used the TMDA(Tagged Message Delivery Agent) for spam controll with qmail. URL http://tmda.sourceforge.net/ I tried it but it's not working.I have gone thru all the installation steps.The mesages are not delivered into the Maildir. any suggestions? The related urls are welcome. Thanx in advance. Mahesh Gharat mahesh_gharat(a)rediffmail.com

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