12 May 2006 16:26:33 +0530, Isaac Praveen <isaac(a)deeproot.co.in>:
> Good idea. What time are we meeting tommorrow then ? Cubbon Park ?
Tomorrow 2.30 pm Cafe Coffee Day , Cunningham Road. (Cubbon park is risky
with the rains :-) )
Some more deatails of what we are gonna discuss. We will split each task to
small logical ones and start working on those as soon as possible.
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> |
> | Well these are the ideas I would like to work on
> |
> | 1. Filesystem as package manager
> |
> | No need for a separate database and file format for packages.
> |
> | /packages/meta - contains information about the available packages like
> | dependencies /packages/binary - contains binary files from a package
> | /packages/source - source code files
> |
> | unionfs will give a merged view of these package files in the / like
> | /bin /lib /var ...
> |
> | so if you install a package from source like
> |
> | ./configure --prefix=/packages/binary/emacs ; make; make install will
> | have all the binary files in /packages/binary/emacs direcory and it
> | will be immediately available to everyone and it is recognised by the
> | packaging system wothout any other commands or configuration
> |
> | to check whether you have emacs installed
> |
> | ls /packages/binary/emacs is enough to update the metadata rsync can be
> | used
> |
> | More details has to be thought of and finalised.
Tasks:
a. Investigate on Unionfs and find out how to show /packages/binary/*/lib
as /lib
b. Design a strategy to resolve dependencies
|
> | 2. Filesystem as email client.
> |
> | Use fetchmail to get email from server and use mboxfs to extract the
> | email info. Use any editor be it vi, emacs or gedit to read.
> |
> | To write a mail we will use a write only file system. You just drag and
> | drop to a folder and the mail is sent. We can have this icon in the
> | panel (the traditional mail box makes sense here, you post it to the
> | box and it is gone).
a. Read up RFC for IMAP and design an IMAP to mbox translator (check if one
exists already)
b. Same for SMTP (It is going to be trickier though)
|
> | 3. Flexible backends for /etc/passwd file.
> |
> | Use mysql, pgsql, ldap ... for authentication and create a translator
> | for /etc/passwd so than zero configuration is required for all other
> | programmes.
a. Implement a simple single file filesystem.
|
> | If you have an idea, we can discuss that as well
We can discuss each in detail tomorrow and may be split up to even smaller
tasks and lets each take up tasks that interests us. if someone feels not
yet ready for jumping right away into coding
we can think of some simple tasks which does not require hurd specific
knowledge
a. Documentation
b. A demo and presentaion (can have different levels from introduction to
deeper knowledge).
c. Maintain hurd.in wiki.
d. Be a manager to the team, many might wanna be a boss :-) The tasks
include getting people to meetup get them work on things. Motivate them ....
e. Be a Public Relations rep, how we can get more students to get on to
hurd...
I am excited... Lets start hacking right away.
|
> | Happy Hacking Praveen
> |
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> | bother us with politics', respond those who don't want to learn." --
> | Richard Stallman Me scribbles at http://www.pravi.co.nr
> `----
>
> Splendid . Will talk about this and more tommorrow :)
>
>
> isaac
>
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Hey All ,
I think many of us would be intrusted in watching this
Documentary on BBC world
**The Code Breakers**
Microsoft has dominated the world of computing for many years, with its
heavily guarded 'code' being beyond reach to many in the developing
nations. In some of the poorest countries the cost of upgrading an
operating system to keep up with the rest o fthe world amounts to a
year's wages, and there are few legitimate options. In Thailand for
example, 95 percent of software on computers is pirated. The poorest
countries are now beginning to use free or open source software (FOSS),
a software that parallels many of Microsoft's programmes but with the
major difference being that they are distributed free of charge and can
be altered by computer programmers who are allowed unfettered access to
the 'source code'. In this two-part documentary, Code Breakers includes
stories and interviews from around the world where FOSS is making an
impact, from disaster management in Sri Lanka to tortoise breeding
programmes in the Galapagos.
Thursday 11th May at 0100
Repeated: Thursday 11th May at 1500; Saturday 13th May at 0100^; Monday
15th May at 0700# & 1300
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"Value your freedom, or you will lose it, teaches history.
`Don't bother us with politics', respond those who don't want to learn."
-- Richard Stallman
Me scribbles at http://www.pravi.co.nr
Hi,
As a follow up to previous meetup we are meeting up this weekend (saturday)
to discuss some of the ideas to start hacking on Hurd. The place can be
cubbon park itself if anyone can bring a laptop with qemu. Otherwise we will
have to meet in a place where we can get a system (any college labs). We can
have an intro to Hurd session if students turn up.
Well these are the ideas I would like to work on
1. Filesystem as package manager
No need for a separate database and file format for packages.
/packages/meta - contains information about the available packages like
dependencies
/packages/binary - contains binary files from a package
/packages/source - source code files
unionfs will give a merged view of these package files in the / like /bin
/lib /var ...
so if you install a package from source like
./configure --prefix=/packages/binary/emacs ; make; make install
will have all the binary files in /packages/binary/emacs direcory and it
will be immediately available to everyone and it is recognised by the
packaging system wothout any other commands or configuration
to check whether you have emacs installed
ls /packages/binary/emacs is enough
to update the metadata rsync can be used
More details has to be thought of and finalised.
2. Filesystem as email client.
Use fetchmail to get email from server and use mboxfs to extract the email
info. Use any editor be it vi, emacs or gedit to read.
To write a mail we will use a write only file system. You just drag and drop
to a folder and the mail is sent. We can have this icon in the panel (the
traditional mail box makes sense here, you post it to the box and it is
gone).
3. Flexible backends for /etc/passwd file.
Use mysql, pgsql, ldap ... for authentication and create a translator for
/etc/passwd so than zero configuration is required for all other programmes.
If you have an idea, we can discuss that as well
Happy Hacking
Praveen
--
"Value your freedom, or you will lose it, teaches history.
`Don't bother us with politics', respond those who don't want to learn."
-- Richard Stallman
Me scribbles at http://www.pravi.co.nr
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2006/5/4, Aanjhan R <aanjhan(a)gmail.com>:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Can someone post the Details abt the Talk that happened like
> 1. Links and references that were provided etc.
It will be available through the newly setup wiki http://hurd.in
it is in an early stage so jump in and start helping out
2. Decisions that were made!!
Go ahead and start hacking on GNU :-)
some suggested topics.
* port linux 2.6 or 2.4 drivers to mach
* /dev/urandom translator
* take up tasks from the main todo list
* have our own identity like hurdfr
...
So that people who did not attend [like me ;)] can benefit out of it.
> Some link to the presentation made will also be helpful to an extent I
> guess.
>
> Thanks in Advance.
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Hi,
Checkout this. They have a Firefox extention as well.
http://openwengo.com/
Regards
Praveen
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"Value your freedom, or you will lose it, teaches history.
`Don't bother us with politics', respond those who don't want to learn."
-- Richard Stallman
Me scribbles at http://www.pravi.co.nr