FSUG-Bangalore December 2008

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A T-Shirt for RMS-Bangalore Events
by renuka prasad 10 Dec '08

10 Dec '08

Hi all RVCE students have planned to have a T Shirt during RMS Talk here is what it looks http://bangalore.gnu.org.in/index.php/Image:FSUG-RMS-B%27lore.jpg ( what missing in the image is kannada lines ( ಸ್ವತಂತ್ರ ತಂತ್ರಾಂಶ, ಸ್ವತಂತ್ರ ಸಮಾಜ) in front portion of T-Shirt From R.V.C.E we are ordering 100 T-Shirts , costing Rs 150 ( one hundred fifty only ) which has RVCE logo on sleeve So if any body likes to have one -- please let me know with the number of t-shirts and sizes required ( without RVCE logos ) but will have all other things regards renuka prasad

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RMS Meeting with primary and secondary education secretary and e-governance meetings are fixed
by renuka prasad 10 Dec '08

10 Dec '08

Kindly note RMS Meeting with primary and secondary education secretary and e-governance meetings are fixed As planned from the beginning It4change is following that and working on that On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:29 PM, vinay sreenivasa <vinay(a)itforchange.net>wrote: Hello All, An appointment has been fixed with the Primary and Secondary Education secretary, Ms.Vandita Sharma for the 12th of December. The appointment is between - 2.30pm - 3.30pm. Her office is in - MS Building #2 , 6th Floor. Renuka, As discussed, you have already fixed an appointment with Sridhar for 3.00pm on 16th, so I shall not pursue my fax further. Thanks, Vinay. Vinay Sreenivasa IT for Change 91-98805-95032 vinay(a)itforchange.net http://itforchange.net http://india.is-watch.net/ http://is-watch.net and RMS reply for that is On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Richard M Stallman <rms(a)gnu.org> wrote: > This is very good news. Arun will rearrange the schedule as necessary > so that I can keep these appointments. Dr Nagarjuan also will be available for the 12th meeting with the secretary Since It4change with some workshops and others are also busy -- i am informing.

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Watch FSFS on your desktop online
by Praveen A 10 Dec '08

10 Dec '08

Eben is starting his talk right now http://fsfs.in/content/watch-out-conference-online-your-desktop -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Visit to the NGO Agni Raksha.
by sreejith g.s 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

*Visit to the NGO Agni Raksha.* I am new to this mailing list and except a few people in Kerala I don't know many free software supporters in this group. I am sharing our experience of visiting an NGO to create awareness among them about free software. If any of this group are working with any such efforts with any NGO's you can tell your experience so that we can benefit from that. Me and Nirmal went to visit the office of an NGO named Agni Raksha on Saturday. They handle the following issues: 1)poor people who are victims of fire accidents are given counseling and if they had lost their job due to the accident,then they are taught some self employment skills to make them self dependent. 2)young children from streets who are misguided and pushed into flesh trade are rescued and given education,later they are taught self employment skills to make them self dependent. They contacted Nirmal when they heard about the work the free software supporters are doing in the slum computer center. They are starting computer classes for burned victims who are rehabitalized by this NGO. We started with the free software philosophy and introduction to free software. After some time, they interrupted us and said they are not interested in listening to the philosophy part. I realized that even though our interest is in spreading the philosophy part most people are only interested in using the technology for their own advantage.So we decided to concentrate on the practical aspects. The conversation went on like this: NGO :we are planning to give computer education to these children, we'll arrange for computers,study rooms and students. How can you help us? Reply: Free software supporters can help you to setup the computers using free softwares. We would be able to come and conduct classes on basic computer skills and free software. NGO : They need basic computer education and not Linux or free software: Our Reply: We can teach them basic computer skills like word processing using Open Office. Most word processors work the same way. Using free software is cost effective and you have the freedom to share and redistribute it. NGO :How long will it take to learn this free software lessons and what is the syllabus that will be taught Reply: We have prepared a syllabus for the slum computing center and showed it to them. We also said we have the material and it would take some 3-4 months to complete. (they felt the syllabus was good) NGO :If free software classes are held in our office then what will be the timings of the classes and will it be on a daily basis, alternate days or in the weekends and will the same person come till the syllabus is completed? Reply:We won't be able to say exactly as people would be having their office work during the day time,but however we will have to chart it out. NGO :people who come to take classes must be able to mingle with these students in a more friendly way. It is because their faces are badly burnt,there are instances where even medical college students who visited the office previously felt uncomfortable while giving them medical aid,so we don't want amyone to hurt them again like that Reply:our people have been working with slum dwellers from long time and more over we to know their feelings After this conversation, we felt that they are convinced and told us that they will get back to us. Some of the points we raised and they felt convinced: 1)The recent shift from windows to free software We raised the point that IT and education sectors are shifting over to free software. Colleges like Christ, Mount Carmel, BMS & so on have started using it. In Kerala, the Government has asked all Government funded organizations to use free software. 2)There is a myth that only weird programmers use free software. We pointed out to them that free software is not only used by programmers, even the poor and marginalized are using it. 3)Cost effectiveness - We raised the point that setting up a center using free software will be cost effective as you have the freedom to make copies and redistribute it. Finally they told us that they need some time for the initial setup and when everything is in place they will contact us. We gave the contact details of Senthil and returned. Sreejith

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Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] reminder request to raise some funds for RMS stay
by renuka prasad 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

reminding once again if any of you are willing to help to raise some funds for RMS stay in bangalore

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Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] [Fsf-friends] Talks of RMS and Eben Moglen at Christ University
by Vikram Vincent 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

2008/12/9 Sri Ramadoss M <shriramadhas(a)gmail.com>: > Ensure recording both of them and upload at a later point of time. Definitely. -- Vikram Vincent +919448810822 http://swatantra.org/

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Talks of RMS and Eben Moglen at Christ University
by Vikram Vincent 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

Prof. Eben Moglen, Professor of Law and Legal History at Columbia School of Law and Chairman of Software Freedom law Centre (SFLC). Date:12th(Friday) December 2008 Time:12Noon-1:30PM Venue: Main auditorium, Christ University Topic:"The free software movement and the struggle for freedom of thought" http://emoglen.law.columbia.edu/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Moglen Dr. Richard Stallman, President of Free Software Foundation Date:16th(Tuesday) December 2008 Time:10AM-12:30PM Venue: Main auditorium, Christ University Topic:"Role of free knowledge and free software in education and research" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman The sessions are open to all. For more details contact: Vikram Vincent mailto:vikram.vincent@christuniversity.in +919448810822

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kannada translation of FSFS :selected essays of RMS
by renuka prasad 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

Hi all happy to inform you that the translation of the book is almost complete except the GPL part For those who are not aware , this translation is done by many students and faculties of several colleges ( RVCE + BMSCE + PESIT + few reviews are done by kannada professors of bangalore university and some from gulbarga and kolar , also kannada translation department helped a lot in getting some tough pages get translated and few reviews ) Mr. Oam Shiv Prakash <omshivaprakash(a)gmail.com>, will be co-ordinating any further activities associated with this book -- on saturday RMS will be releasing the e-copy of the book . ( he is the person who will be creating the necessary templates and other related things necessary ) Since shiv prakash <omshivaprakash(a)gmail.com> is in constant touch with the translation of kannada pages of gnu.org i felt it is better to support him and let him co-ordinate Shiv i am very happy that you have been contributing a lot, but not intereted in any publicity I have seen his contributions -- he has done a great job ( written several useful areticles ) ---------------------- those who are interested to translate the pages of gnu.org pages please write to <omshivaprakash(a)gmail.com> abotu your interest and start contributing as when i wrote to web-translators of gnu.org they suggested to work with shiv prakash ------------------- here after i will co-operate with him --those who are interested join hands .

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Free software in kannada space
by Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

one more small effort to talk about free software in kannada space http://kannadascience.blogspot.com/ <http://kannadascience.blogspot.com/> http://avadhi.wordpress.com <http://avadhi.wordpress.com> -s

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eben moglen program
by Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) 09 Dec '08

09 Dec '08

hi, eben moglen programs are getting finalised as told by rakesh. as its joint with other groups i suggest we say volunteers of free software movement , karnataka again. fsug banner will also be important. if anybody has one can u pass it on to me. if you are interested in recording or transcribing do let us know as dr nagarjuna said.. -s contact : ph: 9448163453 , Jayakumar 12th ------ Christ College - 12.00 p.m - Free Software IIM-B with IEEE Bangalore Section - 3.00 p.m - "Software as a public good" 13th ------- 11.30 am - National Law School 5.00 p.m - Free Software and New Media...with MM Ismail ( senior journalist) and H P Nadig ( sampada ) Institute of Agricutltural technologists , Sanjeevani Road. ( renuka - can the transalated kannada book be distributed here ) 14th ------ IIsc - Danger of Patents - Could be a open air sesion http://notoimp.wordpress.com/

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