FSUG-Bangalore December 2008

fsug-bangalore@mm.gnu.org.in

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84 discussions

Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] Somebody vandalised the FSF-friends and FSUG Bangalore mailing lists
by Vikram Vincent 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

Dear RMS, I respect your views expressed in the mail and thank you for the reply. My views are the same as of FSF/FSF-I - to promote free(as in freedom) software. Our Karnataka team(yet to be baptised) follows the mass movement approach and links free software with other important issues such as caste oppression, dalit rights, education and research etc... My outbursts on the mailing lists were sparked by the series of destructive developments that had taken place on certain fora as they were not in the best interest of the free software movement. However, your clarification is appropriate. I am eagerly looking forward to your address at my institution - Christ University, Bangalore where I have been working with the Management, staff and students of all streams and departments to develop Christ University as a Centre for Free Software in Karnataka. With respects, Vikram Vincent

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Future of FSUG-Bangalore (WasRe: Ministry meeting with RMS, Eben)
by Vikram Vincent 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

2008/12/1 Anurag <anurag(a)gnuer.org>: > Vikram, with such blanket statements all over the lists, what exactly > are you trying to prove? Is there some issue which can be fixed? > The Karnataka team(not yet baptised) has been working in the Free Software Movement in Karnataka from a mass movement point of view. >From http://bangalore.gnu.org.in/index.php/Main_Page "The Free Software Users' Group Bangalore, India, also called FSUG-Bangalore, is an informal group of Free Software Users in and around Bangalore. We discuss issues related to advocating, promoting, supporting the cause of Free Software, Free Software Operating systems, various distributions, sharing free software resources, have informal and formal meetings/seminars, organise workshops, Campaigns now and then, etc. " We understand from this that FSUG-Bangalore is a group which has no set direction and with a jurisdiction of Bangalore alone. It will go in the direction in which the pull is stronger. A mass movement on the other hand has clear aims and objectives and an organisational structure. If everybody agrees with our method of building the free software movement as a mass movement then please say yes and we will work on democratising FSUG-Bangalore and give it an organisational structure, aims, objectives, et al. -- Vikram Vincent +919448810822 http://swatantra.org/

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IISC and imposed monopoly rights - add to the debate please
by Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

Hi, this is just a temproary space...to get community participation on material which needs to be added in here.. on one hand we have the issue of 'imposed monopoly rights' - on the other hand a premier institution is promoting this.. rquest knowledgable memebers in fsug to state their position on this..so that we can build a debate... -S http://notoimp.wordpress.com/2008/11/23/imp-policy-in-iisc-bangalore/ harish k singh : Can you look at the article at http://osindia.blogspot.com/2008/11/global-patent-troll-comes-to-india.h tml. The patents subsidized by our belowed govt is now in the hands of these trolls. Maybe we need to address these issues when the meeting in IISc happens next month.Incidently, this company's major investor is none other than microsoft. See http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/05/12/080512fa_fact_gladwell?cur rentPage=1. Rehat Venky : "Software patents are an important issue in India right now because there is a heated debate over how to interpret Section 3(k) which says that, "A mathematical or business method or a computer programme per se or algorithms are not patentable." How "computer programme per se" is interpreted is of vital importance to the FOSS community. Therefore a talk by RMS on software patents would be relevant at this point in time and would help raise awareness of how patents prevent independent invention and restrict the freedom of software developers."

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Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] RMS Karnataka plans
by renuka prasad 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Arun M <arun(a)gnu.org.in> > Date: Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 1:01 PM > Subject: [FSUG-Bangalore] RMS Karnataka plans > To: fsug-bangalore(a)gnu.org.in > > 13th Dec 2008 : Visit at R.V.C.E Event , Public talk + Book release ( > 10.00 am to 1.30 pm ) > > 14th Dec 2008 Night(Sunday) : To Mysore -- > > 15th Dec 2008 Morning : 10.00 to 1.00 pm Talk at SJCE, Mysore , > > > 16th Dec 2008 Morning : Meeting at Christ University ( 10.00 to 12.00 only > ) > > : Visit to Ambedkar community canter > ( before 2.30 pm ) > > 17th Dec 2008 Morning : Talk at SIT , TUMKUR > Hi let us make a common brochure for RMS Events in Bangalore as per the discussions held at CIS about the Organizsers ( FSUG-RVCE-CHRIST) few samples would be desigined and after suggestions or even before ( now ) we can make a very good one. Also i am designing few invitations specific to RVCE Event Vikram could you confirm the schedules and i will have to invite father joseph for event on 13th ( any time our management / myself would visit -- will call u if i come there ) i lost the number of father joseph , if you could SMS me father joseph's number Also Vikram could you talk to your management and let us know whether they could bear the expenses of RMS stay in bangalore for Two days ( Initially the plan was to make RMS stay in RVCE guests house , since they are not meeting the RMS requirements -- all these arrangements have to be done -- Mysore people have taken responsibility for arranging his stay and bear expenses for travel and Tumkur people also have accepted fo rbearing day expenses, RVCE --for flight tickets from trivendrum to bangalore ( 2 persons ) + a day stay expenses , so it would be nice if CHRIST college management + ( senthil -- in any form ) also take care of sharing the burden. Rest would have to be managed some how !!! Senthil could you please update the support from your side Any body else also please announce however you want to help in making these events in bangalore a succcess Any kind of contribution ( personal or group ) are most aprretiated

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