FSUG-Bangalore July 2009

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13 Jul '09

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Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] [Karnatakaschools] Update on Karnataka ICT@Schools training program
by naveen mudunuru 13 Jul '09

13 Jul '09

Dear All, I will update the wiki with updated Syllabus and also Trainers/Volunteers List by the end of the Day. 2009/7/13 Guru गुरु <guru(a)itforchange.net> > Dear friends > > Wishing all of us highest positive energies for this training workshop. Its > success will lay a strong foundation for making Karnataka a FOSS state! > > At some time in future (when we have even greater comfort and understanding > with one another) we should discuss if we can officially request FOSSCOMM to > own this as a FOSSCOMM project. On the ground it wont make much difference > to our work, but it will help build the FOSSCOMM brand > > thanks and regards, > Guru > > > vinay ವಿನಯ್ wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> Ms.Dakshayini from DSERT called me yesterday. She said that she received a >> call from SSA called her and told her that the file has been cleared and the >> program can go ahead for the 16,17 and 18 of July. They are waiting for the >> official letter to come out before they send the circular and this should >> happen on Monday, July 13. >> >> So right now, Batch one will happen on Jul 16,17 and 18 and Batch 2 will >> happen on Jul 23,24 and 25. >> >> The slight hitch is that the SSA training hall where we installed Debian >> edu may not be available on Jul 23,24 and 25. I will speak to SSA about >> that on monday. >> >> Will keep you all posted. >> >> Meanwhile, I see the pdf with the training schedule on the wiki - >> http://fosscomm.in/Resources/KarnatakaSchools/BaseSyllabus >> , but like we discussed, we should have all the content entered in the >> wiki so that people can easily view and edit. Vikram - can you please take >> care of this? >> >> Also, Vikram - since the dates have been moved for a week, will we have a >> problem getting trainers? Or are the people still available. >> We need to know by Tuesday morning as to who are all the trainers who will >> be taking sessions. Please co-ordinate with FSUG and Sampada also since >> there will be trainers from there also. >> >> Please have these deatils (of trainers and volunteers) also up on the >> wiki. >> >> Please call or email for any questions. >> >> Thanks, >> Vinay. >> >> > -- > Gurumurthy Kasinathan > IT for Change > Bridging Development Realities and Technological Possibilities > Tel:98454 37730 > www.ITforChange.net > http://Public-Software.in > http://India.IS-Watch.net > http://IS-Watch.net > http://content-commons.in > *IT for Change is an NGO in Special Consultative Status with United > Nations’ Economic and Social Council* > > _______________________________________________ > Karnatakaschools mailing list > Karnatakaschools(a)lists.fosscomm.in > http://lists.fosscomm.in/listinfo.cgi/karnatakaschools-fosscomm.in > -- regards naveen Be Free, Speak Free, Work Free. Advocate "FREE SOFTWARE", FREE as in FREE SPEECH, not as in FREE BEER

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Update on Karnataka ICT@Schools training program
by vinay ವಿನಯ್ 11 Jul '09

11 Jul '09

Dear All, Ms.Dakshayini from DSERT called me yesterday. She said that she received a call from SSA called her and told her that the file has been cleared and the program can go ahead for the 16,17 and 18 of July. They are waiting for the official letter to come out before they send the circular and this should happen on Monday, July 13. So right now, Batch one will happen on Jul 16,17 and 18 and Batch 2 will happen on Jul 23,24 and 25. The slight hitch is that the SSA training hall where we installed Debian edu may not be available on Jul 23,24 and 25. I will speak to SSA about that on monday. Will keep you all posted. Meanwhile, I see the pdf with the training schedule on the wiki - http://fosscomm.in/Resources/KarnatakaSchools/BaseSyllabus , but like we discussed, we should have all the content entered in the wiki so that people can easily view and edit. Vikram - can you please take care of this? Also, Vikram - since the dates have been moved for a week, will we have a problem getting trainers? Or are the people still available. We need to know by Tuesday morning as to who are all the trainers who will be taking sessions. Please co-ordinate with FSUG and Sampada also since there will be trainers from there also. Please have these deatils (of trainers and volunteers) also up on the wiki. Please call or email for any questions. Thanks, Vinay. -- Vinay Sreenivasa IT for Change 91-98805-95032 vinay(a)itforchange.net http://itforchange.net http://public-software.in

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Comments on National Policy on Open Standards for e-Governance
by Praveen A 09 Jul '09

09 Jul '09

Hi, It would be great if we can send our response to the Open Standards policy. I'm already working on a response by PLUS and FOSSCOMM, it would be great if someone can volunteer to prepare a FSUG-Bangalore response. ILUGD already have a response. The draft document and responses from various organizations and user groups are linked at http://fosscomm.in/OpenStandards Especially with our earlier work on Software Patents and Document Freedom, I feel this is a logical step we should do. It would also be good if we can have a meeting to discuss this issue. How about this weekend? If it is morning time, I can join over IRC. - Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Request for volunteers to translate debian installer to Kannada
by Praveen A 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Hi, There has been some efforts earlier to have Kannada support in the debian installer, but it has not progressed much. Now with Karnataka governments decision to use GNU/Linux in schools, the importance of Kannada translation is even more. As Malayalam co-ordinator I can share my experiences in the translation process if anyone is interested or you can contact Christian Perrier directly (he reads debian-in-workers list - so a reply to the list would suffice). If interested please respond. Regards Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Re-scheduling of GNU/Linux based ICT@School training program for Karnataka school teachers
by vinay ವಿನಯ್ 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Dear All, The training program which was to start on Jul 9 has been moved, since SSA and DSERT are still working out some modalities. It is now likley to start next week. Hence we are likley to have the first batch on Jul 16,17,18 . Will keep you all posted about the progress on this one. Sorry for not mailing earlier. Renuka - thanks for passing on the message to the group. I will probably not access emails on thursday as i am out of town. Please call or SMS for any queries. Thanks, Vinay. -- Vinay Sreenivasa IT for Change 91-98805-95032 vinay(a)itforchange.net http://itforchange.net http://public-software.in

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Fwd: Re: [Fsf-friends] Kerala school training material
by Praveen A 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Same thread again ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "ck raju" <ck.thrissur(a)gmail.com> Date: Jul 8, 2009 5:44 AM Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] Kerala school training material To: <fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Raj Mathur<raju(a)linux-delhi.org> wrote: > taught the insides-out of ... "..Though Stallman didn't give a traditional reason for this, didn't ground his position in any particular philosophical or ethical theory, he was in fact a Dewey-ite. He was in fact saying what John Dewey had said at the beginning of the 20th Century, that the education and expansion of the human mind depends upon the opportunity to experiment with the world. That it is the ability to join forces with the material and immaterial knowledge surrounding us in the planet which makes our minds grow and develop..." http://ia331420.us.archive.org/1/items/EbenMoglenLectureEdinburghJune2007te… The opportunity to *experiment* with Free Software necessarily means using all its freedoms - to escape from accusation of merely "using" it. There may be plenty of areas like soliciting students to contribute to the graphics contents or to the localisation efforts, in the beginning and substantial hacks towards the end - most of which cannot be undertaken with non-free software and finally distributing or publishing them under GPL. Once teachers are exposed to these possibilities, they may be able to solicit opinions from their own student communities and come out with better findings. [Neither Bengal's cops nor Chidambaram's cops are around to shoot you... breathe easy.. you don't look like a Chinese - ..aoist] CK Raju _______________________________________________ Fsf-friends mailing list Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in h...

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Call for volunteers for Karnataka ICT@School Project
by Vikram Vincent 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Hi, FSMK has decided to be a part of a pilot program to train Govt. school teachers in Bangalore on the basics of computing and free software tools. We have taken coordinatorship and will be actively involving in the first phase being held on 9th, 10th and 11th of July 2009. If you would like to contribute some of your time and energy please do send me an offline mail. A meeting is being organised at the FSMK office on Saturday evening. Address http://fsmk.org/node/25 You can also coordinate with Naveen 9986403928. Thanks. Vikram Vincent 9448810822

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Material from West Bengal's FOSS Training initiative
by Debayan Banerjee 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Hi, As discussed in the meeting held at IT4change last week, here are the links to the materials used in West Bengal's FOSS Teacher's Training program I tried to add them to the FSUG wiki but had some problems with the table at http://bangalore.gnu.org.in/index.php/Karanataka_Schools . Here are the links: http://debayanin.googlepages.com/foss-workshop-outline.pdf (Syllabus) http://debayanin.googlepages.com/finished.pdf (Training Manual / 5 MB) http://debayanin.googlepages.com/Certificate-of-participation.odt http://debayanin.googlepages.com/feedbackform.odt http://debayanin.googlepages.com/FOSSResources.odt http://debayanin.googlepages.com/ILUG-CAL-List-of-apps-for-IOTA-train.pdf http://debayanin.googlepages.com/Regform.pdf http://debayan.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/first-iota-teachers-training-progra… (A blog post about the program) http://picasaweb.google.com/debayanin/IOTATTP1 (Pictures from the program) The Government agency which is behind this effort is IOTA <http://www.iotawb.org/> -- Regards, Debayan Banerjee Support Free Software http://deeproot.in

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Fwd: [Fsf-friends] Kerala school training material
by Praveen A 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Another mail in the same subject. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ck raju <ck.thrissur(a)gmail.com> Date: 2009/7/7 Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] Kerala school training material To: fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Arun M<arun(a)gnu.org.in> wrote: > It is not that text book/curriculum doesnt talk abt other freedoms. > But effective communication is not happening at school level on > ideological aspects of free software. > There is scope for improvement. It would be good some one > can design interesting activities for children which effectively > communicate the different freedoms to children. Any way > it is not an easy task to ensure that majority of 60,000 teachers > effectively use it. The IT@School project currently equips a student community to *use* Free Software under its IT-enabled curriculum. This amounts to exploiting Freedom Level 0 only. Limiting an education curriculum to this level is highly inadequate to prevent its retrograde movement back to proprietary software at a later stage. However, incorporating exercises in the curriculum that must need the other existing levels of Freedoms for its implementation, calls for a different kind of orientation that must be imparted to teachers of varying disciplines. An education curriculum developed this way can never change its direction at a later stage. It should only be after such a loophole-plugged curriculum, that one can convincingly say that a student community is being *equipped* with the ideals of Free Software. Regarding the modalities on the implementation of a system that exploits all the existing levels of Freedoms may not be as arduous or tough as is thought out to be. Teachers of our public education system have an astonishingly high acumen in coming out with exercises from their own disciplines. Perhaps, all that they need, may be an invitation !!! CK Raju _______________________________________________ Fsf-friends mailing list Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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