FSUG-Bangalore November 2008

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Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] RMS events schedule for karnataka
by Arun M 21 Nov '08

21 Nov '08

> >> 14th : IISC Event ( IISC / some body has to confirm ) >> >> 15th : Public Talk at SJCE, Mysore ( They had requested for an event which >> is confirmed now by RMS) >> > > If he is going on 15ht to Mysore he can not come back in a day. > He wants to do some private visits. > > regards > arun > > >

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FW: RMS events schedule for karnataka
by Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) 21 Nov '08

21 Nov '08

forgot to copy ________________________________ From: Senthil Sundaram (sensunda) Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:46 PM To: Arun M Subject: RE: [FSUG-Bangalore] RMS events schedule for karnataka ________________________________ From: fsug-bangalore-bounces(a)mm.gnu.org.in [mailto:fsug-bangalore-bounces@mm.gnu.org.in] On Behalf Of renuka prasad Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:59 AM To: fsug-bangalore(a)gnu.org.in Cc: Arun M Subject: [FSUG-Bangalore] RMS events schedule for karnataka 13th : Public Talk on "Free software Free Society" + Book release : kannada Version of "FSFS:selected essays of RMS" 14th : IISC Event ( IISC / some body has to confirm ) >> we are trying to block the hall at IISc for 14th .. the centenary celebrations are on till 7.30 p.m . 17th evening might be the best day..i have requested students to block hall both on 14th and 17th. The celberations are on till the 16th. >> we will go on campaign (posters , flex banners) on the issue at iisc starting first week or so >> we will also build and content and put up against ip cells 15th : Public Talk at SJCE, Mysore ( They had requested for an event which is confirmed now by RMS) 16th : Mr Vikram confirmed this that they are expecting to have an event on 16th Dec 2008 Christ university : 10 - 12. Ambedkar Comminity Computing Centre ( senthil -correct me if the name is not proper ) >> Saturday or Sunday evening might be better ( 13th or 14th) - if not we can have on 16th evening as requested. >> The kannada bloggers thing is still hanging - where we can bring in many more kannda writers - who have expressed willingness and will be happy to meet RMS. Arun hope this information is useful for your further schedules

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RMS events schedule for karnataka
by renuka prasad 21 Nov '08

21 Nov '08

13th : Public Talk on "Free software Free Society" + Book release : kannada Version of "FSFS:selected essays of RMS" 14th : IISC Event ( IISC / some body has to confirm ) 15th : Public Talk at SJCE, Mysore ( They had requested for an event which is confirmed now by RMS) 16th : Mr Vikram confirmed this that they are expecting to have an event on 16th Dec 2008 Christ university : 10 - 12. Ambedkar Comminity Computing Centre ( senthil -correct me if the name is not proper ) Arun hope this information is useful for your further schedules

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checking the preparations for RMS Visit
by renuka prasad 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

Hi all As all of us aware that in association with FSUG, RVCE and CHRIST UNIVERSITY all together are organizing two confirmed talks of RMS in bangalore and many more are on list Time being i am feeling a bit tensed about the preparation i have made In case any of FSUG-Members feels that they should know what are the things going on regarding the preparation from RVCE side i request any of you to please visit our college in your convenient time within this week and check the thing whether we have missed anything. Expenditure arrangement : Currently is sponsoring 20,000 /- + 30,000 from faculty and students of RVCE and seraching for some more sponsors (already apporached ) As RMS staying is not possible at RVCE guest house as our facilities are not matching with his requirements we are arranging alternate place As mentioned previously that RVCE is taking care of Hospitality , i am mentioning these things If in case of me not available in case of any emergency Mr Chandrashekar B H will handle the issue now when you come to my college please call me on this number before coming 9901945674 becasue you will not be knowing who are the people you have to meet our department director : Dr Shobha is main person in touch with college management : Dr Annamma Abraham is another person in the managing commitee and ofcouse there are around 195 students who may volunteer ( names might not be required )

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Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] Blog post on National Conference & Boycott Novell Protest (PART - 1)
by naveen.nj＠BIRLASOFT.COM 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

I don't believe in words, I believe in action. I don't believe in TITLE, I believe in the Contents. Even then, I apologize for the slip-up in the TITLE but I am obstinate in what I have said: " But the fact that it was SFI who first invited Sir Richard Stallman (Prophet of FSF) to preside over the first free software conference in Trivandrum and that it was the CUSAT University Union who made the platform for him in CUSAT is being deliberately kept under cover." I do understand the difficulty in accepting facts kept under cover, but that doesn't make it fictional. But that statement never meant a diminution of the roles played by the many others. Is it viable by couple of my friends who scribbled their comments below, is just a matter of commonsensical thinking, and I believe its lacking! Why I am so confident is because I have had the honor of partaking in the very Students Parliament organized by the SFI with the backing of all the 5 University Unions in Kerala. RMS who came down to be there went directly to meet the then opposition leader Com: VS Achuthanandan. Every single moment is by-heart to me: Queries? Please give me a ring! Adoption aint my aim, neither hype! Claiming the title of a program, and that too bygone - 4 years, adopting and embracing it so close is not what I am here for. Claiming the guardianship of your blood, the same flesh that you take pride in describing yours, because it took you so much to get it, is respectable! But proclaiming another's blood & piece of flesh to be yours caring a damn for his anguish and agony it took to make him, is total insolence and impertinence and deplorable -not just to the FSF activists but to the whole Software Monopoly Mafia members. The program held then was presided by the then Chairman of Union. I sincerely commit to my memory with heartfelt gratitude about all (including FSUG Kochi & FSUG CUSAT) those who shred every crumb of their oomph to make that program a success. In an elegant group slicing their swords against software patents, friends, how can I claim the patent of a program held years before... Regards, Naveen ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Anivar Aravind <anivar.aravind(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] Blog post on National Conference & Boycott Novell Protest (PART - 1) To: Free Software Users Group - Bangalore <fsug-bangalore(a)mm.gnu.org.in> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:48 AM, <naveen.nj(a)birlasoft.com> wrote: > > SFI who first invited Richard Stallman (Prophet of FSF) to > preside over the Students Parliament which held on 2004 in Trivandrum and > that it was the CUSAT University Union who made the platform for him in > CUSAT is being deliberately kept under cover Just to show some light on the above statement If you are mentioning about RMS Visit to CUSAT on 2004 January 23 ( just after WSF 2004) It was Organised in the joint banner of FSUG CUSAT & Cochin University Union. Most of the work is done by voluntters of FSUG Kochi & FSUG CUSAT. like Anwar Ummer, Vimal Joseph, me, Ragoo, Mahesh T Pai, Sameer Thahir etc FSUG cusat is initiated by Anwar, me and sameer. If you need more clarity on this check the at FSUG-Kochi archives on gmane and fsug-cusat archive on freelists. Also your title shows your lack of understanding . It is a Free Software conference. not FSF Conference Anivar -- Any responsible politician should be encouraging a home grown Free Software industry because it creates the basis for future jobs. Learning Windows is like learning to eat every meal at McDonalds. _______________________________________________ FSUG-Bangalore mailing list FSUG-Bangalore(a)mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fsug-bangalore ********************************************************************************************************************************************************************* "This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient and may contain Birlasoft confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,any disclosure,copying, use, or distribution of the information included in this message and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail at (administrator(a)birlasoft.com) and permanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank you." *********************************************************************************************************************************************************************

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Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] Blog post on National Conference & Boycott Novell Protest (PART - 1)
by naveen.nj＠BIRLASOFT.COM 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

PART - 1 A Glimpse into The FSF Conference - CUSAT I am a fresher - in all aspects - into FSF. I feel my pulse mount when I see monopoly, the reason that leads me down here. I was back to my campus (CUSAT) last weekend when I came to know about this conference and had the honor of being a delegate for the last two days. But what I witnessed finally had to be mentioned about, at least to serve my mindset. A Temple of Education - one like CUSAT - esteemed to be one among the best in the state has been affronted by some recent series of atrocious incidents happened during the Free Software National Conference - labeling the students and teachers of this prestigious institution as erratic and irresponsible, questioning their integrity and devotion. It has been raised by some 'former students' and some so-called revolutionaries who love to be addressed as the 'proprietors of free software movement, supported by a few intellects. I, as an alumni and a witness to the roll of incidents take it as my obligation to comment on it. The SFI and the CUSAT University Union is being blamed in the light of the recent incidents that took place. But the fact that it was SFI who first invited Richard Stallman (Prophet of FSF) to preside over the Students Parliament which held on 2004 in Trivandrum and that it was the CUSAT University Union who made the platform for him in CUSAT is being deliberately kept under cover. The tradition of CUSAT B.Tech Students - has been put down! There was a time when they retorted the monopoly of the big players when the American Dictator was screeching Iraq with bombs - with pure rejection of sponsorships from big-names like Pepsi & Coke and moved into the court raising fund from among them to accomplish their Culturals & Sports. Let's get into the nerves of this Novell Whim. Only two days before the conference started did the organizing committee get the sponsorship from Novell - the reason why Novell's name was omitted from the official website of the conference. Organizing committee is at an obvious burden for not letting themselves know who is pouring in such a huge amount - lack of commonsense, I must say!!! But its beating around the bush, let me hit on the nail - the fact that Novell's stall appeared in the exhibition only on Saturday morning while the exhibition actually started on Thursday, is the ultimate proof that sponsorship from Novell was confirmed only on Thursday or Friday. It is intriguing that even after knowing this one of the program committee members himself is raising the issue that Novell's name was purposefully omitted from the conference website. This has to be thought off amply. (To be continued as Part 2) Regards, Naveen ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Anivar Aravind <anivar.aravind(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:51 PM Subject: [FSUG-Bangalore] My Blog post on National Conference & Boycott Novell Protest To: Principal Support List of FSF-India <fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in>, Free Software Users Group - Bangalore <fsug-bangalore(a)mm.gnu.org.in>, Free Software User Group Thrissur- Discussion list <discuss(a)lists.fsugtsr.org> I blogged about the national Conference & Boycott Novell Protest http://anivar.movingrepublic.org/2008/national-free-software-conference- boycott-novell-turn-outs If you are any more questions to me. Leave a comment on the post . I will update the FAQ Anivar -- I am always happy when I am Protesting: Richard M. Stallman _______________________________________________ FSUG-Bangalore mailing list FSUG-Bangalore(a)mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fsug-bangalore ********************************************************************************************************************************************************************* "This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient and may contain Birlasoft confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,any disclosure,copying, use, or distribution of the information included in this message and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail at (administrator(a)birlasoft.com) and permanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank you." *********************************************************************************************************************************************************************

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Time for a Change
by Roshan Phillip 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

Friends, I think it is high time for a change....we need a strong organization to take this movement forward. And for that we need a strong leadership. Nagarjuna, Arun etc are good..but their activities seem too localized. I think Kiran Chandra has proved himself as a very able leader within a short span. His activities in Andhra, Grass root level work in Bangalore, the big event in Chennai and finally in Kochi, all these are just signs of how an organization should be taken forward. Moreover, an organization cannot work in isolation. Kiran's close connections with the Communist Party can be and should be used for the benefit of the organization. Being the editor of CPI(M)s very popular newspaper, he should be able to take the organization to the next level. On behalf of the free software volunteers across the country, i request the current leadership to step down gracefully, as it is high time for a change.

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Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] Blog post on National Conference & Boycott Novell Protest (PART- 2)
by naveen.nj＠BIRLASOFT.COM 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

PART - 2 (This is a continuation of PART-1. So first read PART-1 and then read PART- 2) A Glimpse into The FSF Conference - CUSAT I understand the passion the free software activists had while protesting against Novell, an outflow of grave anti-dominion feel. But this was not the way, especially considering that the protest against Novell was lead by a member of the program committee - there should've been some morale. 'NOVELL' was the next important thing after the conference from Saturday, considering the gargantuan 20x30 backdrop hung in the main stage. I must say, being humble enough to proclaim that I possess some basic common-sense that it is next to unbelievable that among the 15 - 20 people behind the BOYCOTT NOVELL MOVEMENT, not even one of them saw this banner. I remember Mr. Arkky (the cameraman in the exhibition hall) who send a mail about this, and many others retorting about this 'UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT' but present in the inauguration ceremony. As per the hierarchy of incidents, the fact that Novell had a hand in sponsorship was realized too late by them, too difficult for me to accept considering the above facts, and even if they knew it early, instead of resorting to cheap publicity methods and making a mess of things they should've shown the sense of making it clear with other committee members like Anil and Deepak who have made their points clear through blogs and mails before. But they fled with their say-sos and made the innocents from MEC & TCR Engg College partners of their crime - conspiring how to make a huge mess out of the whole thing. Some ALUMNI did approach the organizers but not to gather support for BOYCOTT NOVELL movement, but to escape the hands of the volunteers for the chaos caused by these so called revolutionaries. Novell put up their stall only after giving the sponsorship cash to the organizers. I won't be able to digest the reason - even if I get one - why one among the program committee member himself lead this anarchy!!!!!!!. Why I call it a beautiful drama, I'll speak about later - but after this drama of incidents I had a casual chat with the organizers of the Novell stall. They actually thanked the protestors - how wonderful - as the whole incidents boosted up their publicity. People who knew nothing about Novell now know everything about it - the very purpose of stalls & publicity. 'Boycott Novell' posters were pasted in many stalls forcefully. Banners welcoming the delegates put up on behalf of the various associations like Cochin University Employees Association and Cochin University Teachers Association etc had no escape... Dr Bhasi, a highly honored faculty of CUSAT, when trying to obstruct the chaos that ensued in the exhibition hall was probed about his authority in the matter. It is demeaning to note that a former student stooped to such low levels as to ask such a respected man to remove the posters himself. I do take this as an opportunity to express my heartfelt regret at such an action. Even the University Security Officer, Mr. Suresh Babu - an extremely student friendly officer, was assaulted by questions about his authority and was asked to show his identity card - how appalling for him, for us. Volunteers, pushing away their exam pressures going on throughout this month did an awesome job to make the whole program a grant success - their dedication and commitment to the principles of such a movement being the driving force. Unfortunately they too weren't spared. The 'former students' who did witness a variant of such an atrocity during Culturals and Sports can have a better understanding, I suppose. (To be continued as PART - 3) Regards, Naveen ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Anivar Aravind <anivar.aravind(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:51 PM Subject: [FSUG-Bangalore] My Blog post on National Conference & Boycott Novell Protest To: Principal Support List of FSF-India <fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in>, Free Software Users Group - Bangalore <fsug-bangalore(a)mm.gnu.org.in>, Free Software User Group Thrissur- Discussion list <discuss(a)lists.fsugtsr.org> I blogged about the national Conference & Boycott Novell Protest http://anivar.movingrepublic.org/2008/national-free-software-conference- boycott-novell-turn-outs If you are any more questions to me. Leave a comment on the post . I will update the FAQ Anivar -- I am always happy when I am Protesting: Richard M. Stallman _______________________________________________ FSUG-Bangalore mailing list FSUG-Bangalore(a)mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fsug-bangalore ********************************************************************************************************************************************************************* "This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient and may contain Birlasoft confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,any disclosure,copying, use, or distribution of the information included in this message and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail at (administrator(a)birlasoft.com) and permanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank you." *********************************************************************************************************************************************************************

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Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] Blog post on National Conference & Boycott Novell Protest (PART- 2)
by naveen.nj＠BIRLASOFT.COM 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

PART - 2 (This is a continuation of PART-1. So first read PART-1 and then read PART- 2) A Glimpse into The FSF Conference - CUSAT I understand the passion the free software activists had while protesting against Novell, an outflow of grave anti-dominion feel. But this was not the way, especially considering that the protest against Novell was lead by a member of the program committee - there should've been some morale. 'NOVELL' was the next important thing after the conference from Saturday, considering the gargantuan 20x30 backdrop hung in the main stage. I must say, being humble enough to proclaim that I possess some basic common-sense that it is next to unbelievable that among the 15 - 20 people behind the BOYCOTT NOVELL MOVEMENT, not even one of them saw this banner. I remember Mr. Arkky (the cameraman in the exhibition hall) who send a mail about this, and many others retorting about this 'UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT' but present in the inauguration ceremony. As per the hierarchy of incidents, the fact that Novell had a hand in sponsorship was realized too late by them, too difficult for me to accept considering the above facts, and even if they knew it early, instead of resorting to cheap publicity methods and making a mess of things they should've shown the sense of making it clear with other committee members like Anil and Deepak who have made their points clear through blogs and mails before. But they fled with their say-sos and made the innocents from MEC & TCR Engg College partners of their crime - conspiring how to make a huge mess out of the whole thing. Some ALUMNI did approach the organizers but not to gather support for BOYCOTT NOVELL movement, but to escape the hands of the volunteers for the chaos caused by these so called revolutionaries. Novell put up their stall only after giving the sponsorship cash to the organizers. I won't be able to digest the reason - even if I get one - why one among the program committee member himself lead this anarchy!!!!!!!. Why I call it a beautiful drama, I'll speak about later - but after this drama of incidents I had a casual chat with the organizers of the Novell stall. They actually thanked the protestors - how wonderful - as the whole incidents boosted up their publicity. People who knew nothing about Novell now know everything about it - the very purpose of stalls & publicity. 'Boycott Novell' posters were pasted in many stalls forcefully. Banners welcoming the delegates put up on behalf of the various associations like Cochin University Employees Association and Cochin University Teachers Association etc had no escape... Dr Bhasi, a highly honored faculty of CUSAT, when trying to obstruct the chaos that ensued in the exhibition hall was probed about his authority in the matter. It is demeaning to note that a former student stooped to such low levels as to ask such a respected man to remove the posters himself. I do take this as an opportunity to express my heartfelt regret at such an action. Even the University Security Officer, Mr. Suresh Babu - an extremely student friendly officer, was assaulted by questions about his authority and was asked to show his identity card - how appalling for him, for us. Volunteers, pushing away their exam pressures going on throughout this month did an awesome job to make the whole program a grant success - their dedication and commitment to the principles of such a movement being the driving force. Unfortunately they too weren't spared. The 'former students' who did witness a variant of such an atrocity during Culturals and Sports can have a better understanding, I suppose. Ah, the drama version alias the one-man-show! Organizers asked the posters to be removed triggering the one-man-show exponentially. I came across numerous mails/blogs/messages that a mob of 20 was protesting. But this one big man was being recorded by the rest in their respective hi-technology cell phones - and the man was happy and on fire. 20 minutes after this incident - pics & movies in various angles were posted online - the very proof to the above fact. Before attempting any intentional-publicity-claim, informing the media is a dirty trick played so often by many such small 'organizations'. He knew it, the samurai, and now we know it, watching his moves n movies in the videos recorded. Allies arrived flying for rescue aid in 20 minutes after the show-off started - now that makes me suspicious (just me or even you?). A 'press conference' threat raised by this gentleman incase the poster is not removed before the arrival of CM proves his/their intention to the core line. The University Registrar made a polite request, but then he had his own standards of replying dirty - and so he was asked to stepped off (instead of being slapped off). Glimpsing through the Conference Organizers let me put my view in this regard. Free Software has to be FREE as the name says - no possessor in terms of the giants in this arena, no patent and nobody enjoys cumulative accounts. People who have been earning money couching idly in their bedroom cushions are scared when CPM, who has a massive and valiant history of struggle against capitalism and monopoly, is promoting free software. CPM is supporting a fetus in this arena of Software World and must be supported by all. If the people who messed and the people who organized happen to be the same, I truly believe you have affronted your own organization and give your heart and soul to your cause next time and better keep things at your home within your walls! Criticizers... I do understand that growth and criticism seems to be parallel but they meet only after realizing that the blogs and mails you use for complimentary, to criticize but actually has to be colossally appreciated, has the tinge and scent of the sweat, pain and blood of these organizers. Regards, Naveen ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Anivar Aravind <anivar.aravind(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:51 PM Subject: [FSUG-Bangalore] My Blog post on National Conference & Boycott Novell Protest To: Principal Support List of FSF-India <fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in>, Free Software Users Group - Bangalore <fsug-bangalore(a)mm.gnu.org.in>, Free Software User Group Thrissur- Discussion list <discuss(a)lists.fsugtsr.org> I blogged about the national Conference & Boycott Novell Protest http://anivar.movingrepublic.org/2008/national-free-software-conference- boycott-novell-turn-outs If you are any more questions to me. Leave a comment on the post . I will update the FAQ Anivar -- I am always happy when I am Protesting: Richard M. Stallman _______________________________________________ FSUG-Bangalore mailing list FSUG-Bangalore(a)mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fsug-bangalore ********************************************************************************************************************************************************************* "This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient and may contain Birlasoft confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,any disclosure,copying, use, or distribution of the information included in this message and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail at (administrator(a)birlasoft.com) and permanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank you." *********************************************************************************************************************************************************************

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Re: [FSUG-Bangalore] Blog post on National Conference & Boycott Novell Protest
by naveen.nj＠BIRLASOFT.COM 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

A Glimpse into The FSF Conference - CUSAT I am a fresher - in all aspects - into FSF. I feel my pulse mount when I see monopoly, the reason that leads me down here. I was back to my campus (CUSAT) last weekend when I came to know about this conference and had the honor of being a delegate for the last two days. But what I witnessed finally had to be mentioned about, at least to serve my mindset. A Temple of Education - one like CUSAT - esteemed to be one among the best in the state has been affronted by some recent series of atrocious incidents happened during the Free Software National Conference - labeling the students and teachers of this prestigious institution as erratic and irresponsible, questioning their integrity and devotion. It has been raised by some 'former students' and some so-called revolutionaries who love to be addressed as the 'proprietors of free software movement, supported by a few intellects. I, as an alumni and a witness to the roll of incidents take it as my obligation to comment on it. The SFI and the CUSAT University Union is being blamed in the light of the recent incidents that took place. But the fact that it was SFI who first invited Richard Stallman (Prophet of FSF) to preside over the Students Parliament which held on 2004 in Trivandrum and that it was the CUSAT University Union who made the platform for him in CUSAT is being deliberately kept under cover. The tradition of CUSAT B.Tech Students - has been put down! There was a time when they retorted the monopoly of the big players when the American Dictator was screeching Iraq with bombs - with pure rejection of sponsorships from big-names like Pepsi & Coke and moved into the court raising fund from among them to accomplish their Culturals & Sports. Let's get into the nerves of this Novell Whim. Only two days before the conference started did the organizing committee get the sponsorship from Novell - the reason why Novell's name was omitted from the official website of the conference. Organizing committee is at an obvious burden for not letting themselves know who is pouring in such a huge amount - lack of commonsense, I must say!!! But its beating around the bush, let me hit on the nail - the fact that Novell's stall appeared in the exhibition only on Saturday morning while the exhibition actually started on Thursday, is the ultimate proof that sponsorship from Novell was confirmed only on Thursday or Friday. It is intriguing that even after knowing this one of the program committee members himself is raising the issue that Novell's name was purposefully omitted from the conference website. This has to be thought off amply. I understand the passion the free software activists had while protesting against Novell, an outflow of grave anti-dominion feel. But this was not the way, especially considering that the protest against Novell was lead by a member of the program committee - there should've been some morale. 'NOVELL' was the next important thing after the conference from Saturday, considering the gargantuan 20x30 backdrop hung in the main stage. I must say, being humble enough to proclaim that I possess some basic common-sense that it is next to unbelievable that among the 15 - 20 people behind the BOYCOTT NOVELL MOVEMENT, not even one of them saw this banner. I remember Mr. Arkky (the cameraman in the exhibition hall) who send a mail about this, and many others retorting about this 'UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT' but present in the inauguration ceremony. As per the hierarchy of incidents, the fact that Novell had a hand in sponsorship was realized too late by them, too difficult for me to accept considering the above facts, and even if they knew it early, instead of resorting to cheap publicity methods and making a mess of things they should've shown the sense of making it clear with other committee members like Anil and Deepak who have made their points clear through blogs and mails before. But they fled with their say-sos and made the innocents from MEC & TCR Engg College partners of their crime - conspiring how to make a huge mess out of the whole thing. Some ALUMNI did approach the organizers but not to gather support for BOYCOTT NOVELL movement, but to escape the hands of the volunteers for the chaos caused by these so called revolutionaries. Novell put up their stall only after giving the sponsorship cash to the organizers. I won't be able to digest the reason - even if I get one - why one among the program committee member himself lead this anarchy!!!!!!!. Why I call it a beautiful drama, I'll speak about later - but after this drama of incidents I had a casual chat with the organizers of the Novell stall. They actually thanked the protestors - how wonderful - as the whole incidents boosted up their publicity. People who knew nothing about Novell now know everything about it - the very purpose of stalls & publicity. 'Boycott Novell' posters were pasted in many stalls forcefully. Banners welcoming the delegates put up on behalf of the various associations like Cochin University Employees Association and Cochin University Teachers Association etc had no escape... Dr Bhasi, a highly honored faculty of CUSAT, when trying to obstruct the chaos that ensued in the exhibition hall was probed about his authority in the matter. It is demeaning to note that a former student stooped to such low levels as to ask such a respected man to remove the posters himself. I do take this as an opportunity to express my heartfelt regret at such an action. Even the University Security Officer, Mr. Suresh Babu - an extremely student friendly officer, was assaulted by questions about his authority and was asked to show his identity card - how appalling for him, for us. Volunteers, pushing away their exam pressures going on throughout this month did an awesome job to make the whole program a grant success - their dedication and commitment to the principles of such a movement being the driving force. Unfortunately they too weren't spared. The 'former students' who did witness a variant of such an atrocity during Culturals and Sports can have a better understanding, I suppose. Ah, the drama version alias the one-man-show! Organizers asked the posters to be removed triggering the one-man-show exponentially. I came across numerous mails/blogs/messages that a mob of 20 was protesting. But this one big man was being recorded by the rest in their respective hi-technology cell phones - and the man was happy and on fire. 20 minutes after this incident - pics & movies in various angles were posted online - the very proof to the above fact. Before attempting any intentional-publicity-claim, informing the media is a dirty trick played so often by many such small 'organizations'. He knew it, the samurai, and now we know it, watching his moves n movies in the videos recorded. Allies arrived flying for rescue aid in 20 minutes after the show-off started - now that makes me suspicious (just me or even you?). A 'press conference' threat raised by this gentleman incase the poster is not removed before the arrival of CM proves his/their intention to the core line. The University Registrar made a polite request, but then he had his own standards of replying dirty - and so he was asked to stepped off (instead of being slapped off). Glimpsing through the Conference Organizers let me put my view in this regard. Free Software has to be FREE as the name says - no possessor in terms of the giants in this arena, no patent and nobody enjoys cumulative accounts. People who have been earning money couching idly in their bedroom cushions are scared when CPM, who has a massive and valiant history of struggle against capitalism and monopoly, is promoting free software. CPM is supporting a fetus in this arena of Software World and must be supported by all. If the people who messed and the people who organized happen to be the same, I truly believe you have affronted your own organization and give your heart and soul to your cause next time and better keep things at your home within your walls! Criticizers... I do understand that growth and criticism seems to be parallel but they meet only after realizing that the blogs and mails you use for complimentary, to criticize but actually has to be colossally appreciated, has the tinge and scent of the sweat, pain and blood of these organizers. Regards, Naveen ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Anivar Aravind <anivar.aravind(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:51 PM Subject: [FSUG-Bangalore] My Blog post on National Conference & Boycott Novell Protest To: Principal Support List of FSF-India <fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in>, Free Software Users Group - Bangalore <fsug-bangalore(a)mm.gnu.org.in>, Free Software User Group Thrissur- Discussion list <discuss(a)lists.fsugtsr.org> I blogged about the national Conference & Boycott Novell Protest http://anivar.movingrepublic.org/2008/national-free-software-conference- boycott-novell-turn-outs If you are any more questions to me. Leave a comment on the post . I will update the FAQ Anivar -- I am always happy when I am Protesting: Richard M. Stallman _______________________________________________ FSUG-Bangalore mailing list FSUG-Bangalore(a)mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fsug-bangalore ********************************************************************************************************************************************************************* "This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient and may contain Birlasoft confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,any disclosure,copying, use, or distribution of the information included in this message and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail at (administrator(a)birlasoft.com) and permanently delete this message and any attachments. 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